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Childhood hits different when you look back and realize half your personality came from recess drama, cafeteria politics, and that one cousin who stayed doing the most. This isn’t the soft-focus nostalgia people pretend to have — this is childhood with bruised knees, unhinged memories, questionable lunch menus, and the kind of chaos that still shapes your adult coping mechanisms. 

In this chaotic time capsule, Anthony and Nalee revisit the moments that raised them, scarred them, fed them (literally), and turned them into the competitive, petty, emotionally unpredictable adults they are today. Between playground betrayals, school lunch hierarchies, cousin conspiracies, and cultural beauty standards no one asked for, this episode blends comedy, comfort, and cringe in the most Twin Tangents way possible. 

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🥏 Recess Royalty & Playground Politics → lava tag rules that made no sense, dodgeball trauma, getting picked last, and discovering your inner “pick-me” tendencies way too early
 🍕 Cafeteria Hierarchies → the sacred race for school pizza, the mystery seasoning on those god-tier fries, lunchroom bartering, and why canned peaches tasted so elite
 👀 Cousins, Chaos & Home-Life Drama → rebe

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Back To Childhood, Snacks And Drama

SPEAKER_00

Welcome back to Twin Tangents.

ANTHONY

Oh my God.

SPEAKER_00

Welcome back to Twin Tangents, the podcast that's basically your emotional support time machine. And today we're heading straight to childhood where the drama was real and snack time was sacred.

ANTHONY

God, we take a lot of trips down to our childhood. That is where all the drama started. Episode 26 is a wild ride through the glitter-glued chaos of our childhoods. We're talking weird family rules, questionable fashion, and the early signs that we were not quite like the other kids.

SPEAKER_00

So whether you're a PBS kids or a Cartoon Network delinquent, we're about to trigger your inner childhood and your inner child and your allergies.

ANTHONY

Do you want to say that again?

SPEAKER_00

Nah, we're good. Y'all understood the point.

ANTHONY

All right. Everybody grab your gushers, cue the Lisa Frank flashbacks.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I love Lisa Frank.

ANTHONY

Right? The colors?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Let's get into it. Because some of these memories didn't age well, and neither did our knees.

SPEAKER_00

Alright, so our first segment is about recess, royalty, and playground politics. The topic that I wanted to talk about was the unspoken rules of tag, dodgeball, and foursquares. So uh of those three, what were like your favorite games? Or do you know what they all are?

ANTHONY

I I've heard of Foursquare. I don't think that I've ever played it.

SPEAKER_00

I judge you.

ANTHONY

Is it is that bad?

SPEAKER_00

No, it's fun.

ANTHONY

Oh. I mean, it's not I mean it's bad that I don't know that game.

Recess Rules And Playground Games

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. That's like our generation. But then again, I think you're in a different generation.

ANTHONY

No, I think we're in the same generation. I think we are, but you're just like you're like, I feel like those games had like phases.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I guess. Well, four square was the thing where there's people in obviously a square, but then there's four squares within that big square. And then you play it with a basketball. So you kind of pass it to each other, like it bounces. It cannot bounce in your square, if I remember correctly.

ANTHONY

By yeah. You lost me at basketball.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah.

ANTHONY

My hand-eye coordination.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, well, there's four squares and there's two squares. We just play it with two people. But I don't think two squares is really a thing. I think we made that up. I don't know.

ANTHONY

I could never play that game because unlike you, Nolly, I'm not a square.

SPEAKER_00

Wow.

unknown

I can't.

SPEAKER_00

Calling me a double loser, bitch.

ANTHONY

Loser, loser, double loser. What is it? Twist.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's loser, loser, double loser. Yeah. Square. Yeah, it's okay. Well, be square or be there or be square. So whatever.

ANTHONY

I don't want to be square, so I won't be there. But to answer your question, when I was a kid, the big thing that I remember playing was like freeze tag.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah, I love freeze tag.

ANTHONY

Yeah. And red robin, red robin.

SPEAKER_00

I don't really remember that one.

ANTHONY

Or Red Rover. Red Rover.

SPEAKER_00

It's like Red Rover, Red Rover. Red Rover, Sennali Over. Oh, okay. And then they would have to catch that person, right? Like they would have to catch it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So tag. Like, did you guys have like any rules or anything like that?

ANTHONY

I don't honestly remember. I feel like those games when we were kids, like it was just like we made up the rules. Yeah. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so I know me and my siblings, we played like tag, like even when we were like low-key, like in high school.

ANTHONY

I don't see anything wrong with that.

SPEAKER_00

But like we used to go to like the park because like I don't know if kids go to the park anymore. Maybe they do, but with their parents or whatever. But like when we were younger, my older brother, he used to take us to the park and we would play like lava tag. So we cannot be on the ground. And if we were, we were only allowed like maybe three to five steps. And like everybody would always be concentrated on whoever's on the floor or like on the ground. Because if they overstep, then they're immediately like the it person.

ANTHONY

They're burned alive in the lava.

SPEAKER_00

Or I don't know if you guys ever played like tag flush the toilet.

ANTHONY

No, I can honestly say. So I never played that.

SPEAKER_00

So like if you like, I forgot I kind of forgot how we played it, but I think it was like some form of tag. And then if you get tagged, you have to kind of freeze like a toilet, and then your other teammates would have to come and flush you, and then you would you're free. And then you could run around again. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So generational thing.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. It's making us look real fucking bad right now.

ANTHONY

They went from playing toilet.

SPEAKER_00

Toilet tag.

ANTHONY

Toilet tag to eating.

SPEAKER_00

Or flush the toilet or whatever.

ANTHONY

Like pods.

SPEAKER_00

Fuck the eating pods. Oh, I don't even know what that was about.

unknown

God.

ANTHONY

That's when I knew that our society was in danger.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

And they started eating the details. And then what did they start doing after that? Weren't they like snorting condoms?

SPEAKER_00

What the fuck? No, I don't know. I know some were eating the powdered like detergent. Was that a thing? I don't know. Or snorting like powdered detergent.

ANTHONY

Well, I know that they were they were eating the Tide Pods.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know. Kids are fucking stupid these days. So I don't fucking know. But and then dodgeball. I love dodgeball.

ANTHONY

You know, as much as I say I didn't have like h hand-eye coordination to play with balls. I did enjoy dodge.

SPEAKER_00

You did a big grit.

ANTHONY

I did enjoy dodgeball.

SPEAKER_00

But a tssh.

ANTHONY

But um Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

You what?

ANTHONY

I didn't bo enjoy dod and blow. I did enjoy dodgeball.

SPEAKER_00

You did blow, but you didn't enjoy dodgeball.

ANTHONY

I did.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, okay. I was thinking about the other thing, but eh, both works. I like dodgeball. I hated playing with my brothers, though, because you know, you're like siblings. Throw it really hard at you.

ANTHONY

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

But I I like dodgeball, but I hated the start of dodgeball when he had to like run up to the line.

SPEAKER_00

And grab the ball real quick. Yeah.

ANTHONY

I just waited until they threw the balls and then I found one on the ground.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I did enjoy dodgeball. I love gym.

ANTHONY

You liked gym?

SPEAKER_00

I did.

ANTHONY

I hated gym class.

SPEAKER_00

Did you?

ANTHONY

Hated. But I mean it probably doesn't help that I was like fat and not F1.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I was fat too. But I'm very competitive.

ANTHONY

You are very competitive.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So yeah, I loved I loved all of it.

ANTHONY

Well, remember, I I have said like my competitiveness didn't come out till like later in life.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

So yeah, I was not competitive at the time.

SPEAKER_00

I think I'm the opposite right now.

ANTHONY

You're not competitive enough? I'm not.

SPEAKER_00

I just about anybody anymore.

ANTHONY

Really?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I'm a bitter old bitch right now.

ANTHONY

Welcome to the club. One of us. One of us. One of us.

SPEAKER_00

What about you?

ANTHONY

About dodgeball?

SPEAKER_00

No, like what's what's something you wanted to talk about? Unless you're not done talking about dodgeball.

ANTHONY

I mean, we could talk about dodgeball and how I was not the most athletic, but we don't want to take that much of a detour down memory line.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, I wasn't super auth athletic too. I think we've talked about it before, but like when I started getting like when I started getting to running a lot, that's when I was like, oh, okay, I see the I see the fun in gym. Like when we were playing volleyball, I was always the person who was diving to get the ball, even though I fucking sucked. I'm like, I'm gonna hit it over the net. Like I don't get I don't care. I'd go home with like bruises on my knees and shit.

ANTHONY

Couldn't do it. I'm too much of a pansy ass. And I love diving in sand volleyball.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

I love sand volleyball. I should go back and start playing again.

SPEAKER_00

It's too messy.

ANTHONY

Sand volleyball?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it gets everywhere. Oh my god, I have a funny story.

ANTHONY

What's that? What's that have to do with the price of raising China? I can take a shower.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know. I have a funny story on the side about sand volleyball. So when and Chili, if you're listening to this, you'll know.

ANTHONY

Throwing Chili under the bus.

SPEAKER_00

Well, it's it was when her and her now husband Jay, he it was when he first came into town, and we were it was I think we were we just started to get to know him, and she was trying to introduce him to us, and we went to go play volleyball at what's that that place over that has a sandwich. Wagner's. Yeah, Wagner's. And so then we were playing in again, I'm very competitive, and so then I think Jay, if I remember correctly, he was on the opposite team, and I had spiked the ball and hit Jay in the head, and it bounced off. But they think that I did it intentionally, but it wasn't like because right when he looked at me, I like threw it and then I spiked it. And it like bounced off his head, and they're like, You did that on purpose. I'm like, I did not, like, I swear to God, I didn't I didn't do it on purpose.

ANTHONY

Like aiming at no scene right out of a movie where you like meet the the best friend's significant other.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I didn't do it on purpose, though. I I didn't do it on purpose. I think my reaction was a little delayed. That's why it looked like I did it on purpose, but I didn't. And then yeah, it was just hilarious because Oh, he was on my team, and I think he was in front of me. I don't remember.

ANTHONY

I just know that he was either he was Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know if he either he either was in front of me or he if he was on the other side, but I remember I hit the ball and it bounced off his head, and they were just like, oh my god. And I'm like, I did not do that on purpose.

ANTHONY

You lime bitch.

SPEAKER_00

But yeah, it was funny. That was it.

ANTHONY

That was it. That was the end of your story?

Dodgeball, Gym Class, And Competitiveness

SPEAKER_00

That was the end of my story.

ANTHONY

Well, the thing that I wanted to talk about was like the hierarchy and like lunch food.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

ANTHONY

I don't know how your school was set up. My school was set up.

SPEAKER_00

We had a conversation about h lunch at school.

ANTHONY

We did before, didn't we? Yes.

SPEAKER_00

But we're gonna deep dive this time.

ANTHONY

Deep dive this time. We had like our school was set up so that they had like the main lunch item, but then they also had the alternative, which was always pizza.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

ANTHONY

And it was like a race to get the pizza because when it was gone, it was gone. And I remember kids used to like ask to like go to the bathroom before lunch just so because the the bathrooms were close to the cafeteria. In the literally in the cafeteria.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay.

ANTHONY

So they would like go out and hang out until the bell would ring.

SPEAKER_01

Oh.

ANTHONY

And then like dart to the front of the line, and they're like, I'll get my books afterwards. Yeah. Just leave them in the class.

SPEAKER_00

That's crazy.

ANTHONY

There's always a race to get the books.

SPEAKER_00

That's real calculator out there.

ANTHONY

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00

I think my favorite, like my favorite, favorite, like lunch item was the case the triangle quesadillas.

ANTHONY

Really?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I loved that. I don't know why. It was so good. It was good. Yeah, and the and our personal round pizzas.

ANTHONY

Oh, those are so good.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, like when I think about it, it tastes cheap, but it's so good.

ANTHONY

I loved cheap. I went through a phase where I would go to like Walmart and I would buy the personal pan pizzas, red baron, pepperoni. It was like two minutes in the microwave.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that was.

ANTHONY

My fat ass was in heaven. I'd eat like fucking a box of those on me.

SPEAKER_00

And it sounds real stupid, but I like the high school that I went to, they had like the best like um chicken Caesar salad. Like the grilled chicken was so good. Like because it's kind of like what you're thinking. I kind of forgot what I was gonna say.

ANTHONY

Chicken Caesar salad.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so okay, yeah. So chicken Caesar salad, if that was the main thing, they would have pizza. So I always like was conflicted on should I get the chicken Caesar salad with the good chicken or should I get the pizza? Because their pizza was really good too.

ANTHONY

School pizza was the best.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Oh, and they had the best seasoned fries. It was so good.

ANTHONY

No, not a sons. Like thinking about like food that I had in my school, like we didn't have a lot of good food. Like the pizza was the best. Now that I'm thinking about it, I'm trying to like remember like what things we ate.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Pizza corn.

unknown

Corn.

ANTHONY

I don't know why they always thought pizza and corn went well together.

SPEAKER_00

Like canned corn.

ANTHONY

Yeah, I'm assuming it was canned.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. It's kind of weird, but I always loved the the green beans.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I loved it. Like every time I came, I'm like, this is gonna be a good meal. Pineapple. Oh, pineapple is pretty good.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I hated the mixed fruit with the cherry. I hated that.

ANTHONY

Really? Yeah. I love that, but only if I got a cherry.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I hated that. I fucking blessed it. Because it's like a mix of the fruits, so it tasted weird. I love the peaches though.

ANTHONY

But I still peaches were really good. And Okay. Okay. Probably an unpopular thing here, but I need your opinion. Maybe you'll validate me here.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

ANTHONY

Is it just me or did like school food taste better? So, like, just even like the corn or the peaches. They're canned peaches, but they tasted so much better than if you were to go to the grocery store, buy a can of thousand percent. I don't know what that it what did they lace that shit with.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. That's how we keep coming back.

ANTHONY

I would go back for sure just for the food.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Some of the food anyway.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I had a conversation with somebody about like going to buy like school lunches. Because you know how like the what's that store here in Eau Claire that sells the school lunches?

ANTHONY

But Indian had food?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So we had attempted to buy like stuff from there. And when we ate it, we're just like, it's good, but it's not good like when we were in school. You know what I mean?

ANTHONY

Yeah. I do because and I haven't had any in a while. And I think we we had this conversation because I didn't know that Indian had had the school pizza, and I found that out. And I was like, bitch, I'm gonna go and buy it.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, like the breakfast pizza?

ANTHONY

Oh, there was a bagel?

SPEAKER_00

Not the bagel, but they had squared pizza pieces of pizza. Yeah, those are so good. Like, especially for breakfast, I loved eating that.

ANTHONY

Our breakfast pizza was on a bagel. It was a bagel with some sort of like breakfast sauce, and then there was sausage and cheese on it. It was so fucking good.

SPEAKER_00

That sounds so good. Oh, what does not taste the same is fucking buttered toast with cinnamon and shinnam and brown sugar. It does you cannot replicate that. Yeah. I've tried it so many times, and I'm like, this shit tastes whack. Like I'm such high school.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

It was so good though. Like nothing, nothing will ever beat that.

ANTHONY

Kids will never know how good.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. There was this other thing that I really liked, but I forgot what I was gonna say. I don't remember, but now I'm celebrating.

ANTHONY

I didn't like their burgers.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, chicken, their chicken patty.

ANTHONY

Like it was the chicken patty sandwiches.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. That's what we attempted to buy. And yeah, when we made it, we're like, this shit sucks, dude.

ANTHONY

Like I yeah, yeah, I know it's not the same. I tried to get it from like Walmart, yeah, grocery store, and I'm just like it ain't the same.

SPEAKER_00

Cause it's so simple. You just need a ketchup and mayo and just the breading and the patty, and when you ate it, it's like perfection. But now you're just like, this shit sucks. Honestly, even the McChickens at McDonald's was not even as good as those chicken patties.

ANTHONY

So I, me and my cousins went through a phase in the late 90s, maybe early 2000s. Burger King, the original chicken sandwich. Uh-huh. They used to always constantly have those on sale. It was like two for five. Yeah, yeah. So we'd go through the drive-thru and go to Burger King, and we'd always get those.

SPEAKER_00

That's my dad and my mom's favorite.

ANTHONY

Ma girl, same.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

But I just had one the other day for the first time.

SPEAKER_00

It does not taste the same. Nope. Like the crunch level of it is not there.

ANTHONY

It's like soggy.

SPEAKER_00

Yep. Yep. And I think like just the bread itself is not as like like puffy and like moist. I don't I wouldn't say moist, but like the the thickness of the bun is not there. It's like super flat.

ANTHONY

It is. Yeah. Yes.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Such fatties.

ANTHONY

I know. We could literally have every episode talking about food. Yeah, we could. We could talk for about food for hours.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. But yeah, I don't know. I feel like my high school fries were so good though. There's they had like a specific season for the fries. And I try to find it like throughout the years, but can't find it. Yeah.

ANTHONY

So it's probably pleasoning.

SPEAKER_00

What is pleasing? That sounds like oh, that sounds like poison.

ANTHONY

Look for it at the store next time you go if you're looking at the seasonings.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Pleasoning?

ANTHONY

Yeah, pleasoning. It's really good. I love using that stuff.

SPEAKER_00

I just remember the there was like there was there was like red powder on it. So I'm pretty sure it was like some kind of paprika or something. Yeah. But it was good. I was like, yeah.

Lunchroom Hierarchy And School Food

ANTHONY

Did you ever have anybody like in the lunchroom, like, did people ever like barter and like try to negotiate? Like, hey, I'll give you my fries if you give me your ice cream.

SPEAKER_00

I was no, but I was just gonna bring up a shout out to one of my one of my best high school friends. And I don't know if you guys remember, but I've talked about in previous episodes where like in in high school, like we couldn't afford the free lunch, right? So some days I would starve. I don't know if you remember that.

SPEAKER_03

No.

SPEAKER_00

But yeah, some days I would like not eat anything until I got home. But I did have a friend. His name was Shivah. Hey Shiv. We used to call him Chester, but I don't know if he listens. But if he ever does, I just want to say thank you to him because he always shared his lunch with me. Oh yeah. So I think in high school I was way too fat to share my favorite lunch with me. No, I felt bad. I will be honest, I felt bad because it's just like he shared it with me like every day. But then I all of a sudden felt like I didn't like as a kid, I didn't realize it. But now when I grew up, like now that I'm older, I kind of expected it from him, which is kind of fucked up. You know what I mean?

ANTHONY

You expected him to share his food.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Why?

SPEAKER_00

Well, I didn't expect it to I didn't like I didn't fully expect it, but like sometimes like I don't know how to say it. Like I don't know how to say it. It's not that I expected it, but I low-key did, but then I felt bad. But then I was also like, oh, well, he's okay sharing it with me. You know what I mean? I don't know if you know what I would mean, but I don't know what you mean. I don't know. I don't know how to explain it.

ANTHONY

But anyways, is it that you just got used to him sharing that?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Yeah. So that yeah, so that's fair. So you just got used to it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

That it became an expectation.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but then at the same time Like I felt bad about having an expectation because obviously it's not my lunch. But then there were times where I didn't eat because I did feel bad, or there were times where like he'd offer and I'd be like, no, I'm good, you know? Because I was like, okay, I shouldn't be doing that. But regardless, like, you know, he shared his lunch with me, and I was always really thankful for that. So yeah, and he was one of my best friends in high school.

ANTHONY

So And you don't talk to him anymore?

SPEAKER_00

We are in contact still, but we don't like talk all the time. Yeah.

ANTHONY

Well, Shiv, I just wanna It's Shiva. Oh, you said Shiv earlier.

SPEAKER_00

I know, but it's Shiva or Shiv.

ANTHONY

I'm not his friend, so I can't call him Shiv. I got it. His friends call him Shiv. Shiva.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Thank you for being such a nice student and sharing your food to somebody who didn't have any.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, he was really nice.

ANTHONY

That is really nice. Yeah. Not a lot of kids do that nowadays.

SPEAKER_00

No. Never.

unknown

No.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I think for a moment people thought that we were an item. Because we were really close.

ANTHONY

Did you want to be an item?

SPEAKER_00

No.

ANTHONY

Let's let the cat out of it. Let's let's unravel these feelings and these emotions.

SPEAKER_00

No.

ANTHONY

Did he?

SPEAKER_00

No. Because he liked it other girls in high school. And I would kind of be like his wingman. I'd be like, dude, just go do it. Like, just go ask her, you know? But we did.

ANTHONY

And there was no part of you that was like, he's attractive. I could see myself.

SPEAKER_00

No, because I was always talking to other people.

ANTHONY

Oh.

SPEAKER_00

So yeah.

ANTHONY

Because he was a hoe.

unknown

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Once upon a time, not long ago, she was a hoe.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, very good. But I will say though, I think something that kind of changed our dynamic, I feel like in our friendship, which this has nothing related to what we're talking about now, but um we watched two girls in a cup together.

ANTHONY

Done.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Done.

SPEAKER_00

And like after that, we just were like, where do we go from here?

ANTHONY

That's so gross. Speaking of fucked up kids.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

I do not encourage any listener to go and look this up.

SPEAKER_00

I don't even think it's online anymore.

ANTHONY

Oh, I'm sure you could find it. You think so? I'm sure you could find it. Oh, but yeah, it was. Or you can find two new idiots recreating it for. Or yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But yeah, so we were like looking up, we I think I went to his house because we had to do like either a psychology project or something. I don't remember. We were doing a project, and then I was asking him, I'm like, have you seen like the two girls in a cup thing? Or I think there was like there was another video of a guy in a hammer or whatever.

ANTHONY

There was two, two more. The guy in the hammer or the guy and the horse.

SPEAKER_00

I think it's the guy in the hammer. It has something to do with the nail, if I remember correctly, or a hammer, whatever. But we for sure I know that it was two girls in a cup, and I had asked him like if he's seen it, and I was like, we should wash it together because I don't know what it's about. It was fucking disgusting. I like got scarred from that video.

ANTHONY

That's disgusting. It's so gross.

SPEAKER_00

It's so gross. Yeah. And so then I was just like, yeah, that was not a good idea. And then I think low-key, like our our like our friendship wasn't weird or anything, but we were just like, this is a secret between you and I, and you and I only for the rest of our lives. Cause this shit was like fucked up as hell.

ANTHONY

And now it's a secret with all of our problems.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, yes.

ANTHONY

Our home unity.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it was my first time, I think that day, my first time eating a vegetarian pizza, too. So so it kind of relates to what we're talking about.

ANTHONY

Such a gross correlation to address.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Yeah, you're right though. There were like three videos that were like going around that were really popular. There was the two girls one cup.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

ANTHONY

I remember there was it was like a guy on a horse or something like that. And then there was one more.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I just saw the two girls in a cup. That shit was nasty. Did you watch any of those videos?

ANTHONY

I did.

SPEAKER_00

You did?

ANTHONY

I did.

SPEAKER_00

You got curious too.

ANTHONY

I did. I got curious with the two girls one cub because everybody at school is like talking about it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

And I was like, hmm. I wanted to be included. Yeah. Then I made that mistake.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Don't do it.

ANTHONY

Don't look up the guy in a horse either.

SPEAKER_00

Don't do it. Was it the man in an ice pick?

ANTHONY

The one that I'm talking about?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

No, it was literally a guy getting fucked by a horse.

SPEAKER_00

Ew. Yeah.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

You watched that too? I didn't watch the whole thing. How does that even happen? Aren't horse's dick like huge?

ANTHONY

That's what made the video.

SPEAKER_00

Oh. That's all gross. How do you do that though?

ANTHONY

I don't even want to talk about it. Go watch Beestiality Porn if you want to know.

SPEAKER_00

How do you do that? How do you force a horse to do that? I want to know now. You're gonna explain it to us all.

ANTHONY

Well, I'm not gonna explain it.

SPEAKER_00

I mean Like do they tie the horse up? Like, how do they force a horse to do that? Because like they got they're on four legs, aren't they?

ANTHONY

If memory serves me right, the guy was like under the horse.

SPEAKER_00

What the fuck? That's nasty.

ANTHONY

Downward dog type position.

SPEAKER_00

That's a real quick fucking no to me. Ugh, I feel sick.

ANTHONY

Okay. Anybody out there who this yeah, we're gonna get off the fat. But I'm just gonna say anybody out there who was like into bestiality porn or like into that, you're a fucking disgusting human being.

SPEAKER_00

That's like And that's how I see it. That's animal abuse.

ANTHONY

Yeah. Yeah. That's gross.

SPEAKER_00

That's horrible. Okay. Anyways.

ANTHONY

God.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, well, there's one more that I wanted to talk about.

ANTHONY

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

When you get picked last and you take it personally, like, do you feel like that affects you?

ANTHONY

Or that like I think it does affect kids and their personality, their development and growing.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

ANTHONY

I definitely was one that was picked last quite frequently. And I don't, I I mean, I took it personally, but I also don't blame them. I was like, I was probably one of the fattest kids in my class. No, you weren't. No, I was. So it was like I I didn't blame them for like not wanting me on, you know, their team or whatever. But the frustrating part about that is it's one of those situations, and I think where it hurts kids is the fact that they can't feel like they're being included or involved.

SPEAKER_00

And the thing is like they're not accepted.

ANTHONY

Yeah. And it's like the thing is, is so if you're in gym class and they're like, all right, Nolly and Anthony, you're team captains, you have to pick your team.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Everybody has to get picked. So it's like what it does more harm to save somebody you don't want to pick for last than it would to just be like just pick them. Because again, everybody has to be picked, everybody has to be put on a team.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

ANTHONY

So it's it's like if it was like between you and me, it's like, well, I don't want them. You don't want them. Yeah. One of us has to like just bite the bullet.

SPEAKER_00

Just take it. I think that also causes anxiety because pe kids are like, oh, like what if I don't get picked? Or what if I get picked last?

ANTHONY

Like, you know, it's embed and then it's embarrassing. And it's embarrassing. And then they they do kids. I mean, I don't know about your school, but like it they do make a deal about being picked last. They're like you're they're not gonna let that person who was picked last live it down.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah.

ANTHONY

So yeah, I do agree with that, that it causes anxiety and it it is hurtful for kids.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that sucks. But I mean, I can relate and also not relate. I don't know. Because again, I was really competitive. So I think people in my gym class knew that I was competitive.

ANTHONY

Were you ever picked last?

SPEAKER_00

I don't think so. But I was like close to being last. Yeah, so once again, we are at Anthony's and he has little fur friends. So if y'all hear it in the background, it's just who let the dogs out.

ANTHONY

Richard.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Yeah. It's it it sucks though. Sometimes when you get picked last, you're just kind of like, again, it's that thing like, what's wrong with me? Like, why can't I get picked? Yeah. That's where you that's where the era of the pick me girl and the pick me boy starts, where they they do shit for attention and you know, I feel like maybe that's where it starts. I don't know.

ANTHONY

You know, that very actually well could be.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

And that does that, I mean, that does make sense. That is a little illuminating now that I think about it, because it's like, I mean, for me, it was always the popular kids that are that were like the captains and shit like that, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And I will say this I will say this. I don't give a fuck if you're a gym teacher, but there there is always favoritism. Like the gym teacher, you know who 100%.

ANTHONY

So I hated my gym teacher.

SPEAKER_00

Did you?

ANTHONY

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Damn. Yeah. I don't know. I think my gym teachers were fine.

ANTHONY

Did you?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Didn't you say that you had a woman?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I had two teacher.

ANTHONY

Oh, yeah, because I gave you shit about her being a lesbian.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Well, I had two. Well, like in high school, my high school gym teacher. I know she had favorites because obviously I think she was like she was like captain of the she was like the volleyball captain or whatever. I don't fucking know.

ANTHONY

All teachers, gym teachers are not being singled out. All teachers have their favorites.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. And you could tell.

ANTHONY

And I'm just bitter because I was never any of my teachers' favorites.

SPEAKER_00

That's okay, Boo. You're my favorite.

ANTHONY

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00

Although I'm not your gym teacher.

ANTHONY

Thank goodness for that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Try to get me to run a mile.

SPEAKER_00

No, I'd be like, you want to go to the gym that ends with Cadonald's?

ANTHONY

Gym Cadonald's.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. McDonald's.

ANTHONY

I gotcha. Yeah. I gotcha.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, okay.

ANTHONY

Normally when somebody asks me if I want to go to the gym, I say, whose gym?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, okay.

ANTHONY

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

That's a good one.

ANTHONY

Yeah. Alright. So recess was a battlefield. Our lunch boxes were political statements, apparently.

SPEAKER_00

But now it's time to take the chaos home, where bedtime routines were suspicious and family game night ended in tears.

ANTHONY

This next segment, home life, chaos, cartoons, and conspiracies. We're gonna talk about iconic and low-key weird moments that shaped us inside our childhood homes. Nolly?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

What did you have for us?

SPEAKER_00

So I wanted to talk about the one cousin who was always doing too much. The one with the drama, the one with like the chaos, like the one that's always stirring shit up. Did you have one like that?

ANTHONY

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Or did you have multiple people like that?

ANTHONY

I only have one that's sticking out in my mind, and he was kind of a little asshole.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

ANTHONY

I'm gonna call him out right now.

SPEAKER_00

Is it the tall one?

NALEE

No.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

NALEE

No. I feel bad calling him out.

ANTHONY

Say what you're just knowing everything we know now.

SPEAKER_00

Say what you're just my cousin Adam.

ANTHONY

He was he was kind of a little dick.

SPEAKER_00

Is Adam cute?

SPEAKER_03

No.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, okay. Damn, you really did call him out.

ANTHONY

No.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

ANTHONY

Uh he was kind of a little asshole, and he was like when we were when we were kids, because he was one of my like immediate cousins, like me and my cousins were there was the group the core group of us that we always you know spent weekends, holidays, and like everything. He was just very mischievous. Actually, I think maybe I maybe I don't want to throw him under the bus like this, but I think I've told you a story about him before. So this is my cousin that basically shout out a basketball.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Pick it up.

SPEAKER_00

You have poop stories.

ANTHONY

Yeah. Okay. Let's go see.

SPEAKER_00

Spoopy Adam pants. Should I not call him that? Oops.

SPEAKER_03

No, that's fine. He definitely doesn't listen.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

ANTHONY

But no, he was he was definitely a little asshole.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

ANTHONY

When we were kids. I mean, I don't know. I don't like literally, I don't even know how what else to say about it.

SPEAKER_00

He was just a little douchebag.

Being Picked Last And Belonging

ANTHONY

Yeah, he was just a little preck and like always like causing trouble. And like it was anything that, like, and granted, I feel like a lot of people do this, but like, if he was told not to do something, he did it. 100%.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, he was a little rebel.

ANTHONY

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

ANTHONY

Yeah. And I remember one time we were at his house in Arizona, and my uncle kicked us out of the house because he used to he used to do that all the time. And like, kick us out of the house, go do something outside, go play outside. And I we were in the garage for some reason. And they had these little like two by four like blocks of wood for some reason. And somehow they found a black widow spider.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

ANTHONY

And they were like dropping the blocks in like a triangle around the spider and like trying to block it in.

SPEAKER_00

And I'm like, that's so mean.

ANTHONY

It's mean, but then I'm thinking, that's a black fucking widow spider dude. Play with the daddy long legs. I don't give a shit. A black fucking widow?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. They ask in a dad.

ANTHONY

Yeah. I I remember I took one of the blocks and I literally I just killed the black widow.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, dude, that's even worse. You're like, bat bitch, boom.

ANTHONY

Well, I was like, I'm not playing with this thing. I don't know if they can jump.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Ooh, I hate too.

ANTHONY

Can you imagine if a black widow jumped at you?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, we'd all be dead.

ANTHONY

Like for real.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, we'd all be dead.

ANTHONY

So I was like, I don't got time for this.

SPEAKER_00

We got halfway to Shonda.

ANTHONY

But he always had like the rebel ideas. There was another time that my uncle like kicked us out, and their bedroom had a sliding door, and we wanted to play video games. It's in Arizona, it's in the desert. It was like 90s, I'm sure. What? And I remember he kicked us out and we walked out and we closed the bedroom door behind us. And we went outside and we were playing for a little bit. And then we like, like Inspector Gadget, like got against the wall of the house and like was sliding. And we slid to the sc we made our way to the screen door. Quietly opened the screen door and went inside and muted the TV and started playing video games again.

SPEAKER_00

Were they humping?

ANTHONY

What?

SPEAKER_00

Were they humping? Who?

ANTHONY

My uncle?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

No, no. He just wants us to go play outside.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I thought something scandalous was gonna happen. No. Oh, okay.

ANTHONY

He just wanted us out of the fucking house. And then we got caught. I don't know. My cousin Joseph got us caught.

SPEAKER_00

What a little douchebag. What a little D-bag. I know.

ANTHONY

But anyway, what about you?

SPEAKER_00

I did have some cousins who like were kind of like, I don't know, they always had drama. But I don't know. Like, I have nothing against my cousins. It's whatever. But I wasn't really close with my cousins. Like when we were little, yeah, we were close. But I think like my mom and my dad, like my dad's siblings, which is my aunt and my uncle's or my uncles, or there's a particular uncle, but they have there's like a lot of drama. So then they didn't really like us. Like I think I said in the pod earlier, like our family was kind of like the black sheep.

ANTHONY

Yeah. I remember you did say that.

SPEAKER_00

And my mom and my dad were really sheltered, so they didn't really like when we hung out, like they were really strict.

ANTHONY

But your parents were?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I mean, they're still strict. Like we're 40 years old and they still have a fucking curfew on us. Well, not me, but on my sisters and them.

ANTHONY

Seriously?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, they're really strict.

ANTHONY

But your sister's living at home with them.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Okay. Well, but they're adults. In all fairness, if you're living under my house, you're living under my rules.

SPEAKER_00

Well that's they live with my sister. It's not their house. They live with her.

ANTHONY

Oh, well, then that changes things.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but I don't know. We're all also we're also really obedient. I think that's our issue. So we still listen to them. But it's just kind of like But that's a good thing. Uh is it?

ANTHONY

It is, because now like nowadays, I don't feel like a lot of kids are obedient. And a lot of kids are like rude.

SPEAKER_00

But we're 40 years old, 30, 40 years old. Like we don't need to like have that in the case. Well, yeah.

ANTHONY

I mean, at this point you probably should draw some boundaries. But I mean, at the time to have kids that were obedient.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. But um I know that like my my auntie, her daughter, or my cousin, I guess. I know she had a lot of drama, like with everybody. I don't know.

ANTHONY

You don't know what the drama was?

SPEAKER_00

No. I think it was just a lot of I don't know, it was just a lot of drama. I don't really remember because I was a little kid. But yeah. I don't know. I don't have a lot of experiences, I guess, with my cousin. The only ones were like I did have good memories, like we would play like house and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Like we would go to my aunt's house because we I only have one aunt from my dad's side. And we grew up with them with my cousins, but then like we don't have we didn't have anybody who was like really naughty. I guess the only one who was really naughty was my brother.

ANTHONY

So maybe he's a bad younger brother or my older brother. Older brother. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

My second older older brother. Like he was a he was I wouldn't say he was a bad kid, but he definitely was like not a good seed when he was younger. Why?

ANTHONY

What what did you do? Give us examples.

Home Life, Cousins, And Household Chaos

SPEAKER_00

I think he hung out like kind of with the wrong crowd. And like there was a moment where he like he wasn't into like hardcore drugs, but he like smoked weed and stuff like that. And at that time, like my dad and them didn't like that. So he low-key like got kicked out of the house, and my dad like beat his ass pretty bad.

ANTHONY

Really?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I mean, it's gonna sound like child abuse, but it's more of like discipline. Like, you know what we we've talked about this before? Like, yeah, I'm a firm believer in discipline. Discipline, then it compared to now, like people consider it like child abuse, whatever. Do with what you will as your child. Yeah, and so then and yeah, I wouldn't say that Pali was a bad seed, but she was pretty like rebellious to I could totally see her being like a wild child. Pali was definitely a wild child, yeah. She's definitely like calmed down, but that's right, Polly. I'm calling you out.

SPEAKER_03

Tell me all the stories.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but yeah, but you know, they've turned their lives around.

ANTHONY

And well, I feel like that's typical for any person, any teenager, any kid. We all go through phases.

SPEAKER_00

Some people don't.

ANTHONY

So you don't think so?

SPEAKER_00

No.

NALEE

Really?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, some people don't go through phases. They're stuck in their childish ways. So but yeah.

NALEE

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. But yeah, that's all I have to say. I and maybe that's why we're the black sheep family.

ANTHONY

But So you feel your whole family was a b like was a black sheep?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Like your immediate with your mom, your dad, your brothers.

SPEAKER_00

We are just all my other cousins, they all get along except for us.

ANTHONY

Yeah. Yeah. So I can relate to that because I've always felt like I've never felt fully 100% like welcomed in my family.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. We weren't really accepted because the black sheep. Like, I think I've mentioned this before. Like my siblings and us, well, like specifically my sisters and us, we're a little bit bigger and thick, I should say. And so then a lot of my other cousins, they were skinny and thin and pretty. So, like, when we were around, like our aunts and uncles would always be. Be like, oh, like why are you guys so big? Blah blah blah blah, and stuff like that. So I think it kind of pushed us out. That's why we were just kind of like, Oh, I'd rather just not go, because if we do, we get compared. You know what I mean? It is very sad, yeah. But yeah, so to us, I think it was more of like the reason why we didn't get close is because again, we weren't really accepted for who we were, you know? But that's besides the point. Childhood trauma, all that shit. But yeah.

ANTHONY

I'm sorry, that's unfortunate that your family was like that though, because I will say that it's not just our family.

SPEAKER_00

I think it's kinda like I don't know if it's an Asian thing, but I will say that I'm gonna agree to disagree, or I'm gonna like say an unpopular opinion. I think that's probably the proper way to say it. Is that Asian culture, they are obsessed with beauty. Like if you're not pretty, then like you get looked down upon. Like, for example, like the Korean, the Korean industry or Korean beauty industry. Like if you're not skinny and pretty, then you kind of get looked up down upon. But again, I think that's like an Asian culture in general because we get sexualized so much.

ANTHONY

I'm gonna disagree with that only because that's the same thing for like white women, yeah, colored women. It's like you gotta be skinny and beautiful for when it comes to women.

SPEAKER_01

That's true.

ANTHONY

And I will give you that I do believe that like Asian women are more fetishized.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

ANTHONY

So I mean I'll give that to you.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

ANTHONY

So it's still, it's just still, it's just unfortunate when it's your own family because everybody always pleads this argument that it's family and like they'll always accept you for who we are. They're gonna love you no matter what. And they're gonna be Yeah. Blood is thicker than water.

SPEAKER_00

Bitch bah.

ANTHONY

No, sorry.

SPEAKER_00

No, sweetie, no.

ANTHONY

I'm I'm much more of a believer in like supporting and like picking like your chosen family.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. You earn respect. Yeah, it's not given. That's me.

ANTHONY

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

At this point.

ANTHONY

And it's almost like it's expected when it's like just because it's family, you're expected to do things a certain way. Yeah. Live your life a certain way.

SPEAKER_00

It sucks.

ANTHONY

It does suck. That's family.

SPEAKER_00

That's family.

ANTHONY

That's right, Jesus.

SPEAKER_00

Jesus. What did you have?

ANTHONY

Well, I had wanted to talk about nicknames.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

ANTHONY

Nicknames that may not have been very pleasant. Pleasant as a child. Did you did you have any?

SPEAKER_00

I think my mom had a name for me. But I forgot what it was. But like when I was younger, I was really skinny. I know it's hard to believe, but I was Yeah. I was really skinny when I was little. And I forgot what she called me.

NALEE

But Rolly Poly.

SPEAKER_00

I think it was I think the translation would be I could be wrong. I think my siblings know this. But I think it was like the translation would be like lizard, because I was skinny. And I was very like, eh, scormy. So what's the I don't even I don't remember. I don't remember. I know what it is, but I don't know if that's the exact thing, so I'm not gonna say it.

ANTHONY

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

But I did have nicknames though.

ANTHONY

Yeah. Yeah. Share them.

SPEAKER_00

So my sister still calls me this. Sal calls me Nene.

ANTHONY

What's that mean?

SPEAKER_00

Just I don't know. Just Nene. Like tiny.

ANTHONY

Oh.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

NALEE

Because you're the baby.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Or they would call me, which is also tiny.

unknown

Yeah.

ANTHONY

It's mind-blowing.

SPEAKER_00

Why? Because I ain't tiny?

ANTHONY

Two different ways of saying no, two different ways of saying the exact same thing, and it's like me or Nene.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So yeah. It just blows my mind. Yeah, she still calls me that. She has asked, Okay bye Nene.

ANTHONY

What are what about any of your friends? Did any of your friends give you nicknames?

SPEAKER_00

No. But I had my own nickname. My street name.

ANTHONY

Gave herself a nickname. Laquita?

SPEAKER_00

No, it was Happy. That sounds really stupid. I'm a dwarf now. I had that nickname for a while.

ANTHONY

I'm not called Jenna.

SPEAKER_00

What?

unknown

Nothing.

SPEAKER_00

You're gonna call Jenna?

ANTHONY

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Why? Yeah, you bitch.

NALEE

What about you? I did. I had a lot of nicknames in like middle school and high school.

ANTHONY

They used to call me Ace at one point.

SPEAKER_01

Why?

ANTHONY

I don't know. That was a very good question.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

ANTHONY

Some of the nicknames I don't really even have any reason for.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

ANTHONY

Fuzzy.

SPEAKER_00

Interesting.

ANTHONY

Um, I think that was a mix of when I was fat and in middle school and high school, like I went through a period where I like only wore hoodies.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

ANTHONY

And like oversized hoodies to like try and hide my fatness by making myself look bigger. But I think my hoodies, I think there was one that was like fuzzy.

SPEAKER_00

Fuzzy. Oh, okay.

ANTHONY

And then also, I know you'd find this hard to believe, but I had hair.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

ANTHONY

And so my hair, they would call me fuzzy. You had beautiful hair. I did have beautiful hair. Not still bitter about that. Or the person I work for who decided to not give me my hair extensions.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, baby, it's coming. Wait till we win that lottery.

ANTHONY

None of us got tickets this month.

SPEAKER_00

Whose fault is that?

ANTHONY

All of ours.

SPEAKER_00

This month? What is this?

ANTHONY

November.

SPEAKER_00

Well, my week is still coming up.

ANTHONY

Yeah, your week is still coming up.

SPEAKER_00

Jenna.

ANTHONY

You mean Heather?

SPEAKER_00

Heather, you out, boo.

ANTHONY

She's been busy. She's been having a lot of stuff go on in her life too, yeah. And I'm just like, I get it. And I keep meaning to go and buy mine, and I just haven't. So I'll do it this week. Whatever, I don't care. But yeah, so Heather.

SPEAKER_00

Not Jenna, sorry.

ANTHONY

One nickname that I had that I really didn't like as a kid was they used to call me Velcro.

SPEAKER_00

Why?

ANTHONY

I don't remember who it was. Somebody said that my hair felt like Velcro, which is that a compliment? No, it was supposed to, it was meant as an insult.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, what a bitch. Who said that to you?

ANTHONY

I don't remember.

SPEAKER_00

Listen here, you little bitch.

ANTHONY

It didn't last very that one didn't stick very long, thankfully. My aunt and uncle always call me dude. We've had this conversation.

SPEAKER_01

Dude.

ANTHONY

So that's uh my uncle still calls me dude.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. What else?

SPEAKER_03

Those are all of my nicknames.

ANTHONY

I've been called whore. I don't know if that's a nickname or not, or just a term of endearment.

SPEAKER_00

Actually, I'm gonna call you that from now on.

ANTHONY

Whore.

SPEAKER_00

Hey whore.

ANTHONY

I'd prefer if you just called me hoe.

SPEAKER_00

Or that too.

ANTHONY

Yeah. I like being a hoe.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, we know you like being a hoe.

ANTHONY

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, another one that my brother used to call me was nye. Yeah, and it's also tiny.

ANTHONY

Okay, so now we have three different ways of saying tiny.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

That just blows my mind.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

That just complicates language even more.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. The Moan language is complicated. Don't even worry about it.

ANTHONY

All language is complicated.

SPEAKER_00

That too.

unknown

Okay.

ANTHONY

Okay, can I share? Speaking of language, I have to s I have to get this off my chest.

SPEAKER_00

Get it off your chest, boo.

ANTHONY

So I was on TikTok yesterday and I came across a video of a woman going off on a woman who was in her car on her phone speaking Spanish to somebody. And this fucking Karen just came up and started going off on the woman about speaking Spanish.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

ANTHONY

And she said something. Okay, this actually ties into our whole trip back into high school and childhood days. So this fucking Karen said to this woman, You're in America. Like speak I hate that. Speak American. If you're gonna come to our country, speak English.

SPEAKER_00

This ain't your country, bitch.

ANTHONY

It's not your country. But I so badly wanted to, all I could think of was this bitch, you know, she probably goes to Mexico for her vacation. Yep. You know, she's not going to Mexico and speaking Spanish.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

ANTHONY

And why is it that as Americans, we think that we're so entitled? And the reason that how I'm tying this back into like high school, I remember in it was either Spanish one or Spanish two.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, why have Spanish in schools? Why it ha why it have?

SPEAKER_02

Why it why we have why why we don't have Chinese?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but why is Spanish one of the main learning languages in high school when you guys don't want people speaking Spanish? Like make it fucking make sense. You know what I mean?

ANTHONY

Anyways, you know, I do, but I think that that's the main one that's pushed because I mean that's pretty much a close second for most spoken language in in our country. And then with us being so close to Mexico. But I remember, and I'm gonna call him out, and I have no shame for this.

SPEAKER_00

Call him out.

ANTHONY

I remember so vividly Troy Gilbertson making a big issue in our Spanish class. Like, why do I gotta learn Spanish? If they're coming to America, they bet they should speak English.

NALEE

And it's like okay. One, why are you here?

ANTHONY

Like if you don't want to learn Spanish, like why'd you take this class? And then two, why is it that we do think that because people come here that they should speak English? And not even so much about people most people who do come here can't speak English. Yeah, they speak multiple languages, they're bilingual or trilingual. Like just because you're the fucking idiot who can't learn the difference between los, los, la, el, yeah, like you can't figure your what are they conjugates?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I'm laughing because of our Uber drive. That's all.

ANTHONY

I know Uber. I know I know Uber. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. But I'm just saying, like it's because they're ignorant. That's it. Like people are so fucking it fucking it. People are so fucking ignorant.

ANTHONY

Fucking ignorant.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. That triggers me. Because I ever for me.

ANTHONY

And it's like going back to the TikTok video, like she was in her car having a conversation on her phone. Mind your own fucking business.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So stupid.

ANTHONY

So anyway, yeah, uh Velcro wasn't one of my nicknames. Fuzzy.

SPEAKER_00

Fuzzy.

ANTHONY

Ugh, that girl that I moved to California with. She used to call me poopy.

SPEAKER_00

Poopy?

ANTHONY

We were poopy and doopy. Poopy and doopy? Or something like that. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Ugh.

ANTHONY

I know.

SPEAKER_00

Why poopy?

ANTHONY

Now it's all like Sha Poopy? Now it's all red flags. Every time I like You think about it? Think about it, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Oh. Okay.

unknown

Um.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Alright. Well, now that we revisited the trauma of being called embarrassing childhood nicknames, let's wrap things up with a little reflection.

ANTHONY

AKA realizing that despite the chaos, our childhoods gave us some pretty iconic core memories. A few unresolved issues as well.

SPEAKER_00

All right, so segment three is about core memories that still live rent-free. I know this one's gonna be a long one because we are gonna have a lot to talk about. So buckle the fuck up. For mine, I wanted to talk about family road trips that were actually psychological experiments.

ANTHONY

Okay. I'm interested.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. So I think I've talked about this. We we probably talked about it in one of our previous episodes for a fact, but did you like when you guys had like road trips, did you guys ever like argue or was it moments were there were road trips core memories of like good times?

ANTHONY

My core memories of road trips are all good times. It was normally like me, my grandma, and my aunt. There were a few times that like my cousins would come with me.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

ANTHONY

We didn't really argue, but we did have those moments where it was moments of disagreement.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

ANTHONY

That would get my grandma a little riled up, but never anything serious that I can recall.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

Core Memories: Road Trips And Glow Sticks

ANTHONY

As far as and for me, some of my core memories, they all obviously include our road trips to Vegas. One thing that really stands out to me is that I would always get sick in the car. And it wasn't like it wasn't what's the word, like motion sickness or car sickness. It wasn't that.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay.

ANTHONY

I would literally just get like physically like sweats and hot, nauseous.

SPEAKER_01

I wonder why.

ANTHONY

Yeah, I was only in the car, and then like once we got there, I'd I'd be fine.

SPEAKER_00

Weirdo.

ANTHONY

For real.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

But I remember I would sleep in the backseat and play video games the entire time. And a a part of that core memory is that we when we would stop at a like rest area.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

ANTHONY

So my grandma could rest, because this was when I was a kid. I couldn't drive.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

ANTHONY

My aunt had epilepsy. She couldn't drive, so my grandma did all of the driving.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

ANTHONY

So we would stop so that she would rest. Well, here I've been sleeping the entire time. So I'm like, I'm awake.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

And of course I'm a kid and I can't get out and go like do stuff. Do stuff at the rest area. Not that there was like most of them didn't have anything to do, but yeah. So it was like I had to sit in the car.

SPEAKER_00

You must have been such a bored little kid.

ANTHONY

In the car?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Yeah, probably at well, I mean, I had my video games, so that tied me over.

SPEAKER_00

Um what about you? Yeah, for me, like I know I talked about like the annual like North Dakota fishing trips and stuff like that, but I uh for me, my core memories of road trips were always with my guy cousins because my dad's oldest brother, his kids are low-key kind of aligned with my parents too. So all of our kids are kind of like in the same age range. So me and my sister Mila were the two younger ones. So they my mom and my dad would always take us, and then my uncle, he would always take his two younger boys. And so then I remember this one time we were driving to go visit this auntie in like Iowa, and we were going at night, and so then we had stopped at a gas station, and um we saw that there were these, you know, those glow in the dark sticks to break it. And so then what we did was at this time we drove in my uncle's suburban, and so the kids we were in the back, which now that I think of it probably wasn't the best idea, or maybe not, I don't know. But at that time, seatbelts weren't like a super big issue because I know like what? Yeah, because we were, I think we were like maybe nine, 10-ish, but we were driving at night, and so then, you know, when we use a glow-up sticks, it glows. And so then at that time, you know, my parents, they were all in the front, they were talking, and then we were sitting in the back of the suburban, and they had put the seat down in the back so we could just kind of sit and like sleep or whatever on our way there. And so we had covered the back seat with a blanket, and then we were like underneath it, and we were like doing little raves and stuff like that. It was so fun. Like that was like a core memory for me. And so then I think every time we were all together when we were going on road trips, we always had to buy glow sticks.

ANTHONY

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so we could do that, yeah. And we would just be like that in the background. It was so fun, now that I think of it. But yeah.

ANTHONY

Now I wish I would have done that with my cousins.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. But again, like me, I think I think this is still true too, is where like I have more like like when I was single, I had more guy friends than I had girlfriends. I don't know if if that's a thing. I don't know why that is, but I got along more with my guy cousins than my girl cousins too.

ANTHONY

I okay, I feel like that is very common.

SPEAKER_00

Is it?

ANTHONY

I feel like it is.

unknown

Yeah.

ANTHONY

I mean, I could be wrong.

SPEAKER_00

But the thing too is though I used to be wingmans for my cousins though. Like when we go to the New Year's and stuff, and they wanted to hit on a girl and then have the guts to go hit on them. I would be like, which one you like? I'll go ask the number for you.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

And so then when we did that, I would be like, oh hey, like, you know, my cousin over there, he's single, and you know, he wanted to know if you you're single, like, can I get your number and give it to him? And that's like super old fashioned, but excuse me. But yeah, so I think that's also one reason why that's one reason why like I get along with my guy cousins. And I was also a really big tomboy. Like, I didn't, to be honest, I didn't opposites. What?

ANTHONY

I said we were opposites.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I didn't like hit like the glow up or like the girl maturity because I was also a late bloomer to like put makeup on and stuff like that. Like I didn't even do that until like maybe sophomore almost junior year.

ANTHONY

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so I look like trash majority of the five.

ANTHONY

I find I highly doubt that.

SPEAKER_00

Oh no, I looked like trash, but I doubt that. Yeah, and so then yeah, I don't know. Like, I feel like we uh I always got along with my guy cousins, but that's definitely a core memory for me.

NALEE

Okay, so you brought up something for me that I want to visit, which is a little drastically off topic. Okay, excuse me.

ANTHONY

So you were a tomboy, you got along with your guy friends, I was the opposite. I was or guy cousins, I'm sorry. I was the opposite. I was obviously very like feminine, like being raised by my grandma, no masculine or man figure in my life consistently, uh to uh at least. So I want your opinion on this. So one thing that I still can't seem to wrap my head head around. So I had a lot of girlfriends in middle school, high school.

NALEE

It never failed that if I was friends with a girl, her boyfriend was jealous of me stealing her from him. And the kicker was they always thought I was gay.

SPEAKER_00

I don't understand that.

ANTHONY

I could never wrap my mind around that. So you think I'm gay, but you think that I'm going to sleep with or that I'm going to steal your girlfriend from you. I think make it make fun of it.

SPEAKER_00

I think with that, and this is just me totally assuming shit, making shit up in my head.

ANTHONY

Dr. Nolly's in the house.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. But I think the reason why is because guys they get insecure when other guys are close with their girlfriends.

ANTHONY

Like they're so insecure.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Because we talk about things that they don't talk about. So it's I feel like it's a control thing because they don't they don't know what your cousin is saying to you. And in order for them What do you mean? Well, your girlfriends. Oh.

SPEAKER_03

Like my girlfriends. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Like they don't because obviously girlfriends, friends, they talk about stuff they don't tell their spouse or their partner sometimes. Because obviously that's a reason why I have you. I'm gonna rant about this other person. Yeah. Yeah. And so I think it has a thing to do with obviously insecurity issues. And because of that, like control of not knowing what you guys know between your yourselves. So then they project it as an oh, well, if she's telling you all these things, she must really fucking like you. And so then they get insecure about that. You know what I mean?

ANTHONY

But why are you worried that I'm gonna steal her?

SPEAKER_00

Because they're insecure. They're stupid.

ANTHONY

But it doesn't make any sense. And that just goes to show that's how intelligent heterosexual men are.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Fucking stupid people. Men, I can't. But yeah, so again, that's just how Natalie sees it. But I feel like that's what it is.

ANTHONY

I mean, that would make sense. I just can't I like I literally I can't tell you how many times that I like would have a friend who would tell me the other thing.

SPEAKER_00

I'm just saying in a way where like, let's say if my significant other had like a gay friend who was a girl. I feel like although they're gay, there could still be some kind of like sexual tension. Like if it was cousin, it'd be different. But like if it's a friend, like maybe she could find you attractive, or like you could find her attract or she could find you attractive because you are feeding into her emotional like needs, or she could be like vulnerable with you.

ANTHONY

Okay, that makes sense. Yeah. But I mean, at the same time, that sounds like the perfect opportunity for the boyfriend to step up his game and not be such a fucking douche.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. It's insecurity. That's all it is.

ANTHONY

Insecure little men.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

With their big old pickup trucks and their little dictionaries.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Read your little dictionary, sir. But okay. What did you want to talk about?

ANTHONY

I mean, I could spend so much time on core memories that still live rent free in my head, especially if we're talking about like middle school and high school.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

So many good memories.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I love memories. So many good memories.

ANTHONY

One thing that I love is I've always been like a musical person.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Period.

ANTHONY

So I love music and I love relating it to certain things in my life or situations in my life. So I wanted to talk about that one song that just unlocks all the fucking memories. All the fucking memories.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

ANTHONY

Are there any songs out there for you that like a thousand percent.

SPEAKER_00

A thousand percent.

ANTHONY

Let's go.

Songs That Unlock Whole Eras

SPEAKER_00

I bet you one time. Okay, if I say these two, you're probably gonna be like, oh yeah, for sure. For me is Big Girls Don't Cry by Fergie. Yeah.

ANTHONY

2000s.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. Such memories.

ANTHONY

And Oh God, now I'm thinking about like Ug boots.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. And what is it? Apple bottom jeans.

ANTHONY

I was just gonna say the boots with the fur.

SPEAKER_00

Yep. Yep. Those two songs are like high school, middle school, maybe middle school, beginning, end of middle school to high school. Yeah. Like whenever I listen to that, it's just like, oh, this is a banger. Okay. Yeah.

ANTHONY

Some of the songs from back then were they're just so nostalgic.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

I was, oh, I went to the dentist like a couple weeks ago. And my hygienist, my dental hygienist had given birth, so she hadn't been out. And she had just gotten back. So I was like excited to see her. Hadn't seen her in however long. And she was in there.

unknown

Okay.

ANTHONY

Side tangent. Why the fuck is it when every time you go to the dentist, they always want to talk to you?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I know.

ANTHONY

It's like, hey, I'm like, no, I get it.

SPEAKER_00

Like the girl, the every fucking time. She's like asking me this question that it's not yes or no. It's like long questions.

ANTHONY

Yeah. Do you have big plans for Thanksgiving?

SPEAKER_00

I'm like, you got your hand halfway in my mouth. How do you expect me that too?

ANTHONY

What do you Yeah?

SPEAKER_00

You bring up a valid point.

ANTHONY

Yes. Every fucking time. So she's in my mouth.

SPEAKER_00

Should be the opposite, but she's in my mouth, and I'm listening to the music, and I'm just like, huh.

ANTHONY

Not even thinking anything of it. And then she randomly goes, she goes, So what do you think of the music today? I'm like, it was like old 90s country.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

ANTHONY

When I started listening to music, I started on country.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay.

ANTHONY

But it was so nostalgic because they played a song by Tim McGraw.

NALEE

God, now I can't think of what song it was.

ANTHONY

I can't think of what song it was, but I remember listening and I was like, Life is a highway.

NALEE

Is that Tim McGraw?

ANTHONY

No.

SPEAKER_00

Oh shit. Who's that?

NALEE

Is that Aerosmith?

SPEAKER_00

No, it's not Aerosmith. Life is a Highway.

SPEAKER_03

Who is it?

SPEAKER_00

It's not Tim McGraw.

ANTHONY

It's not Tim Maggie.

SPEAKER_00

I know that for a fact.

ANTHONY

I don't know where my phone is. I can't look it up. You look it up. But it was a Tim McGraw song, and I was like, I have not heard this since the 90s. And so that I mean that song just took me back.

SPEAKER_03

But as far as other songs for me, there's Graduation Day by Vitamin C.

SPEAKER_00

Oh. That song gives me such sad and like nostalgia. Bittersweet memories. Yes. It's like so sad.

ANTHONY

Strawberry wine.

SPEAKER_00

Rascal flats.

ANTHONY

Rascal flats.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

That's it.

SPEAKER_00

Strawberry wine. I didn't I didn't hear that song until recently.

ANTHONY

Really?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Oh my god. Strawberry wine every single time.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. One that also like gives me a lot of like memories instantly is Apologize by One Republic. It's too late. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. I don't really relate to a lot of like newer stuff.

SPEAKER_00

Is that newer stuff?

ANTHONY

No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, just in general.

ANTHONY

Yeah. Just in general. Like newer music now. There's not like a lot of stuff that I enjoy. So it's like when people ask me, like, what do you listen to? I feel like such a loser because I'm like, well, I listen to either anything that's on Z100.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

ANTHONY

Or, you know, I'm living my Taylor Swift era.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

What other songs? Anything else for you?

SPEAKER_00

So let's see. Unlocks an era. Like, I was kind of like, I wouldn't say I listen to hoe music, but I listen to a lot of like pop music or like, I don't know.

ANTHONY

Like what artists?

SPEAKER_00

Like Birthday Sex by Jeremiah. I don't know if you know that song. Like that song is like core memory for me, Mila, and Linda.

ANTHONY

It's Do you care to elaborate why birthday sex is a song that is a core memory for you and your sisters?

SPEAKER_00

It was like the song of the summer. I think it was like 20, 20, 2008.

ANTHONY

Sing it.

SPEAKER_00

Birthday sex, as I remember.

ANTHONY

That's birthdays.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's your birthday, so you know you wanna ride up that song. Yeah.

NALEE

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

But I don't know. Like every time that song came on, it was just like, okay, this is what's up. This is a hot girl summer right now, you know?

ANTHONY

Speaking of hot girl summer, my friend Michelle, she loved her, she loved herself some pussycat dolls. When I grow up.

SPEAKER_00

I love, yeah, that was my buttons. That was yes, that was my ringtone for the longest time. Like, you know how like when you call and it's ringing, it always played when I grow up.

SPEAKER_03

I want to be famous.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So anybody I think who like knew me like during that era, anytime they heard that song, it reminded them of me.

ANTHONY

Of you.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

And then um anytime I hear pussycat dolls, I think of my friend Michelle.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I love pussycat dolls. And then what else? There's like a thousand songs. At this point, I'ma just tell you whatever song gives me core memories.

ANTHONY

My baby cousin used to be obsessed with that um blue, a da ba-dee-ba boo-da-ba-da boo-dee. I don't know if it was.

SPEAKER_00

I know, I know exactly what you're talking about. Yes.

ANTHONY

And then he also loved Who Let the Dogs Out.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Okay.

ANTHONY

I fucking hated that song.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, and it's getting hot in here. So take up all your clothes. That song was so scandalous when it played on the bus, everybody was like, quiet. Because you know, it's kind of like dirty.

ANTHONY

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. But yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I am trying to think of the song that me and my friend used to.

NALEE

Let's see. Another song for me is What song is that?

SPEAKER_00

Well, Rasco Flat, since we're talking about that, Life as a Highway was definitely core memory for me. But that's only because Do you want to share a core memory? From the song?

ANTHONY

Yeah, like what's the sort of thing?

SPEAKER_00

Oh well, I was it I I only it was only a core memory for me because like my nephew, he was really into cars, and that was the car's theme song.

ANTHONY

Oh.

SPEAKER_00

And like I just really liked that song.

ANTHONY

So when you say he was really into cars, do you mean like cars the movie or like the actual cars?

SPEAKER_00

Cars the cartoon.

ANTHONY

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Lightning McQueen. Caching, ka chow.

ANTHONY

Never saw it.

SPEAKER_00

Really?

ANTHONY

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, it's cute. But yeah. Sorry.

ANTHONY

Two two things in life that I'm very grateful for and that I love every time it happens is like a song taking me back to a certain time or moment, or a smell.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah.

ANTHONY

Like I just can't. Like I told you that, like the random times that I'll like smell my grandma's perfume or something. And I'm just like.

SPEAKER_00

I think that's normal though.

ANTHONY

Oh, I think it's normal too. I just I'm so happy that I have that opportunity to.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. It's kind of beautiful when you're like, Yeah. I remember that.

ANTHONY

Or it takes you right back to that moment.

SPEAKER_00

I think that's a very beautiful feeling. Yeah. Like as a human, I think that's such a beautiful feeling.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

I keep thinking now about like getting older, and I'm like, what if I were to develop like Alzheimer's or like dementia?

SPEAKER_00

I kind of wish I had that right now for a hot minute.

ANTHONY

Don't say that.

SPEAKER_00

I need a little dementia in Alzheimer's right now.

SPEAKER_03

But I couldn't imagine.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

That's so unfortunate.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. And also, songs also trigger like sad times in your life too. They do.

ANTHONY

But then that also allows for the opportunity to see what growth you've had.

SPEAKER_00

A thousand percent.

ANTHONY

And how you've dug yourself out of that particular situation.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Like I will every time, and I will probably change the channel nine times out of ten if I ever hear this song. But the stupid A what is it, ASPA or whatever commercials with Sarah McLaughlin, and it's like in the arms of an angel.

SPEAKER_00

In the arms of an angel.

ANTHONY

I will ball.

SPEAKER_00

Why?

ANTHONY

That was a song that they played at my cousin's funeral. And that was the first funeral that I ever went to.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, really?

ANTHONY

Mm-hmm. Damn.

SPEAKER_00

That is legit core memory for you.

ANTHONY

And then the other song was If Tomorrow Never Comes.

SPEAKER_00

What is that? I don't think I've heard that.

NALEE

My I wanna say it's by Garth Brooks, but I could be wrong.

SPEAKER_03

If Tomorrow Never. Oh.

SPEAKER_00

You know what other songs, and I know you know this. Oh shit. Is Backstreet Boys.

ANTHONY

Backstreet Back.

SPEAKER_00

Alright.

ANTHONY

Yeah, like my cousin Mariah was obsessed with that millennium album.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, okay, okay. Are you who's better? In sync or Backstreet Boys?

SPEAKER_06

Backstreet Boys.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. A thousand percent. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Like InSync, they have some good songs, but Backstreet Boys. No.

SPEAKER_03

No.

SPEAKER_00

Can't compare.

ANTHONY

They cannot compare.

SPEAKER_00

They have such good songs.

ANTHONY

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Like their lyrics are like they have good songs.

ANTHONY

Although I will say, I was obsessed with the Unsync Christmas album when that album came out, and that movie, I'll Be Home for Christmas with Jonathan Taylor Thomas came out.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know.

ANTHONY

I remember my cousin, core memory. My cousin Carrie and I went to go see that movie. And then after the movie, we went to Walmart and bought the album.

SPEAKER_00

Wow. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah, I like Backstreet Boys.

ANTHONY

I remembered. We were in her, she had a like a Hunter Green van. Core Memory, I can remember.

SPEAKER_00

What's your favorite Backstreet Boys song?

ANTHONY

Oh God. I honestly haven't listened to the Backstreet Boys in like over 15 years.

NALEE

Wow.

ANTHONY

So I don't even I pro the only song that I know is Backstreets Back. Show me the meaning. Oh, that's definitely one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Everybody loves that song. For me, it's kind of like the unpopular one. I don't know what the title of the song is called. I kind of forgot, but it's just it's Open Up Ya Heart to Me. You know that one?

ANTHONY

No. Is that an older one?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's an older one. Let's see.

ANTHONY

But I will also at the same time say that I wasn't huge on ballads. So if that was a ballad, which it sounded like it was, I definitely would not have been listening to.

SPEAKER_00

I'm trying to see.

NALEE

Oh my god. Larger than life. I want it that way. Yeah, I'm trying to see. I'm pretty sure. Oh my god, this is just crazy. They're still making music?

unknown

Who?

ANTHONY

The Backstreet Boys?

SPEAKER_00

I think so. Oh, it's I need you tonight. Open up your heart to me and say free concert for listening. Yeah, that that song. And they're like, it's uh, I need you tonight. I need you right now. That song. Yeah, I love that.

ANTHONY

I don't know it, but please.

SPEAKER_00

I love that song. If you know that song, you know what's up. And Siberia, such a good song.

ANTHONY

Siberia?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's Siberia.

ANTHONY

It's Backstreet Boys.

SPEAKER_00

You clearly are not a Backstreet Boys fan.

ANTHONY

I only listen to the first three albums. I feel like And I think the third one was Black Black and Blue.

NALEE

Or was that the second one?

SPEAKER_00

I feel like Siberia might be like an underrated song. It's kind of like a breakup song.

ANTHONY

Yeah, nobody wants to listen to a breakup song.

SPEAKER_00

But yeah, I love Siberia. And then I love Backstreet Boys. Like anytime Backstreet Boys comes on, I will jam up.

ANTHONY

Yeah, I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_00

It's like you get that, like, oh my god, I know this song kind of thing, you know.

ANTHONY

I'll do the same thing for NSYNC though, because it's just it's just nostalgic for me.

SPEAKER_00

Ba ba ba. Yeah.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I like InSync, but I feel like they're they're not all of their songs are like hits.

ANTHONY

No. Yeah. No. I think they didn't have like the right moves. Like Backstreet Boys could actually dance.

SPEAKER_00

Too. I think InSync was more danced than Backstreet Boys, to be honest. Yeah, because Justin Timberlake, he's very like, he's very like, what is it? He has good choreography and shit.

ANTHONY

Unpopular opinion, Justin Timberlake's overrated.

SPEAKER_00

I like Justin Timberlake. He's overrated. The reason why I like him is because you could tell that it's Justin Timberlake. I think that's what makes you a good artist, is that you listen to a song and you're like, oh, I know this is Justin Timberlake. Kind of like Bruno Mars. Like you could tell that, oh, this is Bruno Mars. Like he stands out.

ANTHONY

But is that the music or their voice? Because Justin Timberlake does have that like higher voice.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know. I think it's just in general.

ANTHONY

Like And like even Bruno Mars has a he has a certain aesthetic to his tone.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's the aesthetic of their music. Like you could tell that, oh, this is a Justin Timberlake song, or oh, you know, this is a Bruno Mars song.

ANTHONY

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Fergie had that too.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

But I wasn't big on Fergie.

SPEAKER_00

Fergalicious definitions make them boys go crazy. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like songs are beautiful. Like they hold so much memories.

ANTHONY

They do.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So.

ANTHONY

And I mean, music is the number one thing to bring people together.

SPEAKER_00

It is, yeah.

ANTHONY

No matter what language somebody is speaking, everybody can enjoy music.

SPEAKER_00

A thousand percent.

ANTHONY

Any other core memories you want to talk about or that we need to address in the substantial? Just in general? Yeah, just in general.

NALEE

Why not?

Comedy Skits, Ice Cream Trucks, Nostalgia

SPEAKER_00

Okay. I I don't know if I talked about this, but or maybe I have the ice cream truck. Like when you hear, like when you start to hear the sound or the smell of the ice cream truck, but it's not actually an ice cream truck. You're just instantly like, ooh, I have money. Or you look behind you, you know?

ANTHONY

Oh God. I remember always running for money and trying to.

SPEAKER_00

Do they even have ice cream trucks in email at all?

ANTHONY

I don't think they do, but I could be wrong.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

We don't have one around here. I know that for sure.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I wonder if they stopped because of like kidnappings and shit. You know what I mean?

ANTHONY

Oh. But I mean, with that, I mean, with respect to that, like every it seems like almost every Everybody has like a camera on their front step.

SPEAKER_00

That's true.

ANTHONY

So it would be so much more difficult to.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but they could easily snash it and go. Like if there's only one kid. Are you talking about are you thinking about epilepsy?

ANTHONY

No. I'm thinking I was watching. It was an episode of that key Keel and Peel.

SPEAKER_00

Uh-huh.

ANTHONY

And I don't know if you've ever seen them where they dress up as women.

SPEAKER_00

Monica. Is that one? Where he's like, Yeah, don't follow me. I'm done with you. And he's like, get back here, Monica. I still love you. Megan. Megan! Megan! Not Monica. Sorry, Megan. Megan! Shut up! And then they're in the theater and she's like, Hello! Where are you? Hello.

ANTHONY

So annoying.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I love them. I watched one. Yeah, I love them.

ANTHONY

I should send this one to you. I watched one the other day where they were both dressed up as women and they were walking down the street telling stories.

SPEAKER_02

And they were like, Ah my dad, she said that to you. Yeah, yeah.

ANTHONY

And then there's like this creepy guy in a van, and he's like, Hey, ladies, you guys want to meet Channing Tatum?

SPEAKER_02

Oh my god. They're like crawling into the back of the van. I don't think he's in here. Channing, is that you? Ew. Kidnapping.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah. That's so fucking stupid. For me, right now, kid oh, kidnapping. Right now, like ice cream chucks also reminds me of the charmed episode where they like get sucked into the ice cream chuck. Yeah.

ANTHONY

Oh, I should re-watch charmed. It's been a while.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I love charmed. The old one, not the new one.

ANTHONY

I watched the new one. It was definitely not as good.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

I only watched it because I was low-key hoping that they would have done a crossover and like brought the original stuff.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah. That would have been fun.

ANTHONY

Yeah. They missed the boat on that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. But yeah, like now that we're on Key and Peel, I cannot get this episode out.

SPEAKER_06

Oh god.

SPEAKER_00

I have two favorite episodes, and everybody knows Key and Peel are like fucking hilarious.

ANTHONY

They're so funny.

SPEAKER_00

And I'm pretty sure you guys know these skits too. The one where I always get their names mixed up. I don't know who which one is who. Like the skinny one, the tall, skinny one. I think that's Peel, right?

SPEAKER_03

I think that's Key.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Well, anyways, the the the skinny one. Well, the tall one. The bald one. Yeah. It's the one where he's a substitute teacher.

ANTHONY

Malarkey?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Malarkey or A Aaron? A A Ron. Is A Aaron here?

ANTHONY

I will never not say A Aaron when I see.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that name. And he gets pissed and he like breaks the cardboard. He's like, I said. You know, like I forgot what he says, but his reaction is so funny. And then that's one of my favorite skids.

ANTHONY

That's one of the funniest ones.

SPEAKER_00

And then the one, this one, I don't know if a lot of people know about this one. Maybe they do, maybe they don't. But it's the episode where they both have a wife and they go over to I think Peel goes over to Key's house. And then the girls, they go and talk about the house, and she's like showing the house around. And then Key and Peel, they were talking about how one of them just got into an argument. And they're like, Yeah, she was a fucking. And then they look around and see if their wives are around.

unknown

Bitch.

SPEAKER_00

And then it like amplifies and like it goes to them sitting up in the tree. And then they're like, She was a fucking look around. Bitch. And then it amplifies to them being in space. And then they're like, Yeah, she was singing on a shit and she was a fucking bitch. But then he's like floating away in space. But I haven't seen that one. Yeah, that's like one of my favorite skills.

ANTHONY

I'll have to share it to you, but yeah, send that to me.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and any any Megan ones are funny.

ANTHONY

Megan ones are so funny.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. The one the theater.

ANTHONY

Um I just watched one today where it was he tried to break up with her.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is it the one where he was like, come back and get your coat? And then they're like in a boat, like fucking rowing away.

ANTHONY

No, they're at her house and they're talking. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

She walks, he talks, she talks him through going back and they're like back together at the end.

ANTHONY

And then they're back together.

SPEAKER_02

And she's like, okay, so what do you want to do tonight?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

ANTHONY

Yeah, any of the median ones are funny. The teacher one, that is hilarious.

SPEAKER_00

I love the teacher one.

ANTHONY

My favorite one.

SPEAKER_00

Balake.

ANTHONY

Malake. Is that a malarke hair? My favorite one is the church ladies.

SPEAKER_00

Blake. Sorry.

ANTHONY

What'd you say?

SPEAKER_00

It's Blake. Blake, but he's like, he's like no, he's like Balake. It's Balake here. And he's like, it's not Balake, but my name is Blake. And he's like, God damn it. Yeah. He's like, Blake. Yeah. Fucking Lebesk.

ANTHONY

No, you're fine. Have you seen the church ladies one?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, where they're they have those little hats and they're in the church pews and Satan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hilarious.

ANTHONY

Dad, that one kills me every single time.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I I love them. That's what I want to do. Their life seems so fun.

ANTHONY

I'm gonna do a I'm gonna do a divine keel and I'm gonna rip that dick off.

SPEAKER_03

I'm gonna ride that.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my God. That reminds me of the scary movie thing that you were saying that how dirt how I talk dirty and shit. Yeah. Yeah.

ANTHONY

I sent that to you. Yeah, you did.

SPEAKER_00

I was like, okay, yeah, no, I'm not like that.

ANTHONY

Okay. Did you watch that other one I sent you where I was like, you have to watch the end? Because he said something in that end that made me think.

SPEAKER_00

You sent me a thousand things on TikTok. Which one was it?

ANTHONY

This coming from you.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

ANTHONY

Okay, let's count. Let's compare who sends what I send a lot.

SPEAKER_00

I do. Okay. I will give you that. I do send a lot.

ANTHONY

I don't remember what it was. You'll have to look at it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. But another good thing that you guys should watch if you guys like like ho like comedy stuff.

ANTHONY

I'm gonna put you on right now.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, is what is it? Whose line is it? I love that show.

ANTHONY

Whose line is it anyway?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah.

ANTHONY

Oh my gosh. I used to watch that show before I went to bed.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I love that show.

ANTHONY

I kind of fell off of that. They came to Eau Claire here. Did you know that?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I I know. They came to Eau Claire, I think, last year. I wanted to go too. But I don't think it's the old like cast anymore.

ANTHONY

I think two of the guys are still on there.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, is it?

ANTHONY

I think. The I know the short bald one. Yeah. Or like yeah, him and then the tall weird one, I think, are on there.

SPEAKER_00

I think Aisha, the girl who Aisha Taylor. She was a host for a while.

ANTHONY

She was, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. But I love that show. Too. So yeah.

ANTHONY

Melissa got me hooked. I'm watching The Floor now.

SPEAKER_00

So The Floor? What is that?

ANTHONY

It's a game show.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, okay.

ANTHONY

Which I fell asleep during the other night, so I have to rewatch it. Okay. Maybe I'll do that tonight.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. I did have one thing, one other topic that I want to talk about is random acts of kindness that still makes you cry now. Like, is there any shout outs to like a teacher or to like a friend or just any kind of like little thing that anybody did for you that you like wanted to say hey thank you to?

ANTHONY

Well, yes. So random act of kindness. I'm still, I don't know their name, but still that couple that picked us up when our car broke down on the side of the road in Sparta, Wisconsin. They picked us up and they brought us to a hotel and got us a hotel room for the night while we figured out our fucking lives. That was a random act of kindness that I'm extremely grateful for. I would like to thank that little old woman in Walmart for informing me that my friends that I did not know were in the next aisle over.

SPEAKER_00

Are you being sarcastic? Yeah, yeah.

ANTHONY

Oh remember that story I told you?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I'm like, I thought that was a mean one.

Kindness, Community, And Burnout Honesty

ANTHONY

Yeah, that was mean. I was being sarcastic.

SPEAKER_00

You're a mean one, Mr. Grunch. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Anybody else that I want to say thank you to? I want to say thank you to anybody who has been.

ANTHONY

I've been seeing a lot on social media and like some of the groups that I'm I'm part of. I would like to give a special thank you to any and all people who are stepping up and like making donations and offering to help families who are in need of like food or resources. So I don't know anybody personally to thank. But like those small random acts of kindness that I've come across that I've seen, especially with the recent like discussions of like SNAP benefits being cut, I've been seeing like random people on groups offering help to anybody who needs it. And little things like that really little things like that are what's helping me get through my days lately.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

ANTHONY

With everything that's going on in my life and everything that's going on in the world, little things like that help me. But what about you?

SPEAKER_00

I would just have to say, for me right now, like, I don't know, thank you to all the listeners and supporters that we've had. We've reached our 1K. I don't know if we've announced that.

ANTHONY

I think we did.

SPEAKER_00

Did we?

ANTHONY

Maybe we didn't.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but we reached our 1K.

ANTHONY

We announced it on social media where none of our followers or none of our listeners and followers decided to do nothing.

SPEAKER_00

We were supposed to have a drawing, but none of y'all little bitches shared. What happened to our community? What happened to support?

ANTHONY

Yeah. Where's the support, everybody?

SPEAKER_00

What's going on?

ANTHONY

We're gonna be doing a drawing.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Well, we attempted to do a drawing, but none of y'all bitches did nothing.

ANTHONY

So we're gonna attempt it again.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

New Year's, we're gonna do a drawing.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Excuse merch that has yet to come out.

ANTHONY

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

But yeah.

ANTHONY

If anybody wants their chance to win some twin tangents merchandise that is not yet available to anybody in the world, please follow us on our socials. Like, comment, review, subscribe, share the hell out of twin tangents. Spread the word of our nonsensicalness.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. But I don't know, I think I did have one, but it doesn't help that I forgot what I wanted to say. So overall.

ANTHONY

See, you should have gone first. You shouldn't have let me talk.

SPEAKER_00

No, it's okay. But yeah, I mean, honestly, anybody who's doing who's bringing a positive light to anything right now in the world with everything that's going on.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Anybody who's supporting any kind of donations, any kind of like any help in general. Just anybody who's positive, you know.

ANTHONY

This kind of goes against what I said in like an earlier episode. Well, maybe not necessarily against, but like if you're in line at McDonald's, like pay for the person behind you. Just random act of kindness. Spreading that sort of love is what that loving kindness is what keeps it going.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Oh, I do want to say.

ANTHONY

I wish listeners could see my face because whenever you do that, like, oh, I did want to. My face is always like, oh no, what is she gonna say?

SPEAKER_00

No, no, no, no, no. I wanted to think. We had a nickname for her. I forgot. For my for my supervisor at work. I forgot the name we came up with.

ANTHONY

I don't remember the name we came up with.

SPEAKER_00

But we're gonna call her Cindy from now on. But yeah, I just wanted to thank Cindy. She sent me candles for like as a thank you.

SPEAKER_03

And You never sent me a picture, by the way.

SPEAKER_00

I know, I forgot to, but yeah, she sent me candles and then she sent me a little like thank you gift.

ANTHONY

A little care package. That's so nice.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's so nice. But and then I also sent her some like nail supplies because I kind of got her into like doing her nails. I didn't get her into it, but I sent her like little gems and stuff that she could use to do her nails. And then I also sent her some little gifts in there. But yeah, it was kind of unsuspecting. Yeah, it was unsuspected. But the piano smells really good. They're bougie.

ANTHONY

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So I was like, okay, Cindy, I see you.

ANTHONY

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But yeah, it was really cute. Yeah, little things like that.

ANTHONY

Yeah, little things like that to to pick somebody's day up.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but I don't know, just be good, y'all. There's a lot of negative shit going on. There's like people are being fucking mean and stupid, like that Karen. Yeah. Do better, y'all. Be better.

ANTHONY

Do better.

SPEAKER_00

I may swear a lot, but that does not make me a bad person, okay?

ANTHONY

Yeah. Neither one of us.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So I think when I swear, it's just more to one, be dramatic, because you know, I I feel like I I don't swear that much, but I feel like on the podcast because I feel so much and like I express a lot of stuff. I swear a little bit. But yeah.

ANTHONY

I feel like I swear a lot just to get my point across. I feel like it gets my point across more, but I don't think it does.

SPEAKER_00

But yeah.

ANTHONY

I wish I could swear at work.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah. But yeah, I just wanted to say that like even though I swear a lot, and maybe some of you guys are uncomfortable with it, it's more to just emphasize my dramaticness of the point that I'm trying to get across. And you know, it just brings a little bit more Entertainment. Yeah. And entertainment into the pod. So yeah. But But yeah. Just be good, y'all. Be nice. Like, you don't know what people are going through. Just bottom line is you never know what people are going through. Just be nice. Maybe that'll help them better their day.

ANTHONY

I've been trying to remind myself more of that when I get these intrusive thoughts about, you know, that fucking asshole driver that cut me off, or that bitch who gave me a dirty look. In my head, I've been trying to be a little bit more conscientious of like being like, you know what? I don't know what they're going through.

NALEE

They don't know what I'm going through. Yeah. Like, it is what it is.

ANTHONY

Just I'm definitely one of those people that like sometimes I have no control over my facial expressions.

NALEE

Yeah, for sure.

ANTHONY

And things can be obvious. So like Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I don't know. There's just a lot of stuff going on. Just give yourself brace too.

ANTHONY

That's we keep saying that.

SPEAKER_00

I know. It's kind of like It's like a work in progress. Yeah, we need to take our own advice. I do agree that with it.

ANTHONY

It is easier to like give advice.

SPEAKER_00

Oh shit, sorry. But I'm trying to. I'm trying to give myself grace. I know I'm going through a lot of shit, but it's really hard. I think it's easy to tell people to do it, but it's hard for you to do it for yourself because it's like life is really hitting you so hard where you have no control over it. And it's really again, it's all about control. It's really hard for you to control something you can't, but then you cannot help but try to control a situation. But sometimes you can't control it.

SPEAKER_03

Sometimes we have to let go.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I just have to kind of let it go. And I'm trying trying really hard to let go. I think that's the thing. So yeah.

ANTHONY

And on that note, I think now would be a really good time to address the elephant in the room.

SPEAKER_00

What elephant?

ANTHONY

Listeners may have noticed that our schedules have been a little off in the past couple weeks.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Anyone who follows us on social, and again, if you don't, please do to stay up to date with everything. But we did post to socials, and we're just gonna verbalize it now.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Just so everybody is aware, life has been lifing for the both of us lately. And so episodes may have been delayed or just absent in general.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

ANTHONY

And we're not we're not trying to make a habit of it. Just we're we're both going through things. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And it's been rough, y'all. 2025 has been kicking us in the ass.

ANTHONY

2025 has been kicking us in the ass. I think this year, December 31st, I'm taking all of my 2025 calendars, spewing some gasoline on them, and I'm setting them on fire. And I think that's gonna be my ring way of ringing in 2026 because I think that's what I need. And I'm hoping that 2026 is a better year.

SPEAKER_00

I'm ready to let go of all this negative energy, all the negative shit in my life, all the negative, like all the bad things, people, just everything in general. Like, I'm ready for a clean slate. I think I think it's kind of like I know it sucks because we're not like telling you guys exactly what's going on, but just know we're like going through shit. We are still committed to the pod, you know. Again, this is for life.

SPEAKER_03

For life.

Gratitude, Support, And Closing

SPEAKER_00

But I hope that there are some of you guys that look forward to our episodes every Thursday. You know, like I hope I hope that you guys are. But then again, it's also that thing of we're just really going through the ringer right now. And once we get out the other side of this, yeah, we will hopefully be able to shed some light full force. Yeah. But yeah, it's it's been really hard. Like being an adult is really hard.

SPEAKER_03

So being an adult is hard.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but regardless, continue to keep supporting us and listening to us. And you know, we are trying our best. Our bests, but we are trying our best.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And yeah, thank you for again for your guys' c continuous support. And yeah, I thank you guys. Pretty much. I agree with you. Yeah, thank you. Thank you guys.

ANTHONY

Thank you, all of our listeners. And if I can ask one thing of you to help my 2026, our 2026 improve, please take the time to like, comment, and share on our Facebook posts, our social media posts, spread the word of us. No matter how stupid our episodes might be, how stupid our banter might be, our topics, anything like that, somebody's gonna enjoy it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

ANTHONY

And if you can't laugh with us, hey, at least you can fucking laugh and at laugh at us.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. And you if you guys have any topic ideas that you guys want us to talk about, just share it with us. We're open. Our roster for 2026 is open, baby. Yes. So let us know.

ANTHONY

Fill our roster.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

But all right. So whether your childhood was cartoons and Capri Sons or generational trauma with the side of Lunchables, we see you.

SPEAKER_00

Real quick side tangent Lunchables was also one of my favorite like snacks. I totally forgot about that.

ANTHONY

I fucking loved Lunchables. I hated the pizza ones though.

SPEAKER_00

I think that's why I love charcuterie boards. Because it's like a bougier vegetables.

ANTHONY

It's the adult version.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But anyways, our inner child may be a little tired, a little messy, and slightly emotionally uncooked, but they made us iconicos.

ANTHONY

Thanks for time traveling with us today. And remember, just because it was it was weird doesn't mean it wasn't wonderful.

SPEAKER_00

This is Twin Tangents where the childhood chaos never really leaves. It just involved into podcast podcast content. Bye, Mm.