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🎙️Our Faces Are Now Your Problem (This Is Why We Chose Audio), MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! (AUDIO ONLY)🎙️

Anthony Casanova and Nalee Her Season 1 Episode 29

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Surprise!!  This is what we look like!!
 Some of you are shocked. Some of you are concerned. That’s fair.

This week on Twin Tangents, Anthony and Nalee officially dabble in visual for the very first time. Consider this a test run, soft launch, experiment in chaos.  A Christmas episode where the cameras are on, the faces are visible, and everyone quickly learns why audio still feels safer.

👉 Audio listeners: if you’re listening on your phone and want to see the reactions, faces, and silent judgment in real time, head over to our YouTube channel to watch this episode.

We’re talking:
 🎥 Face reveal expectations vs. reality → RBF allegations and emotional faces doing all the talking
 🎄 Christmas chaos debates → real vs. fake trees, matching pajamas, early decorations, leftovers, and work parties
 🎁 Rapid-fire games → who ruins Christmas, who pretends not to care, and who already regrets this episode
 😬 Unhinged hypotheticals → Santa judgment, holiday villains, banned songs, and overrated movies
 💸 Delulu but hopeful energy → lottery fantasies, canceled Christmas vibes, and manifesting 2026
 🎭 No structure, just faces → technical hiccups and discovering how much e

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Live Video Soft Launch

ANTHONY

Here we are. We're live.

NALEE

We're live. My goodness.

ANTHONY

All right, listeners, before we start, just a little quick housekeeping.

NALEE

Oh God. That never leads to anything good.

ANTHONY

Nope. This is our first time doing video. As you can tell, we're showing you our faces.

NALEE

So if anything goes wrong, camera freezes, lights shifting, and someone forgets how faces work.

ANTHONY

Just know we tried our best.

unknown

Yeah.

ANTHONY

And I just want to throw out this little disclaimer here. I can't hide things on my face. So it is what it is.

NALEE

Yeah, and we're experimenting. This is a test for sure. This is our soft launch. So give us a break. This is if you've been listening this far, you guys already know.

ANTHONY

So if you know, you know.

NALEE

If you know, you know.

ANTHONY

Yes, we're gonna have a free concert from Nolly right now. Come on, sing it.

NALEE

No.

ANTHONY

That's all we got. All right. Well, if this entire thing goes completely off the rails.

NALEE

No, it didn't. We're still good.

ANTHONY

Please, please, please, please, listeners, be gentle to us.

NALEE

Or at least let us be complete idiots, laugh about it. It's fine.

ANTHONY

That's most likely what's gonna happen. But now that our expectations are appropriately low.

NALEE

Welcome back to Twin Tangents. And yes, this is what we look like.

ANTHONY

You're welcome. I know that some of you are surprised.

NALEE

Um yeah, or you're concerned, but that's fair.

ANTHONY

Totally fair. But anyway, more importantly, Merry Christmas. This is our Christmas episode, our face reveal, which feels like too much trust, but this is our gift to you, the listeners.

NALEE

And Merry Christmas, of course. If you're watching, please be kind. If you're listening, that's probably safer. Yeah.

ANTHONY

Stick to the audio version. There's there's not gonna be as much structure. There's gonna be a lot of festive opinions in today's episode and a lot of faces. Again, this can't hide what it's feeling inside.

Face Reveal: Expectations Vs Reality

NALEE

Yes. Alright, let's do this. Again, this is fine. Because therapy was booked. Yes. Yes. Just a disclaimer, I'm I'm looking down a lot because obviously we still have like We're still working out the kinks. Yeah, we're still working out the kinks. So my screen is down here, but my camera's up there. So yeah. But anyways, our first segment is about face reveal expectations versus reality. Here we are. Before we talk Christmas though, we need to address the obvious.

ANTHONY

Our faces. Our faces are now your fucking problem.

NALEE

Yes, for sure. I mean I sound nicer than I look, or I don't know, but regardless Now everybody can see your resting bitch face. Yeah. No, I yeah. I get that a lot. I have an RBF, so if I look pissed, I'm probably thinking about hot chocolate and chips. So it's not you. Don't take your personal.

ANTHONY

Hot chocolate and chips. Hot Cheetos with hot chocolate?

NALEE

Do they I've I've come out of the hot cheeto phase, but it's probably just because I'm hungry, if anything. That's what it comes down to. I look pissed.

ANTHONY

So I feel that.

NALEE

But yeah, welcome to Twin Tangents. This is my co-host Anthony, and this is me, Nali.

ANTHONY

And I'm wearing my Christmas sweater for everybody. Golden Girls all the way. Bye. Sorry.

NALEE

I tried watching Golden Girls. We're not gonna get into that.

ANTHONY

But yeah, you failed.

NALEE

Yeah, this is us. And again, Merry Christmas. Just want to thank the new 49, 39 listeners. We've up to 18 to 39.

ANTHONY

39.

NALEE

Yeah. Look at us.

ANTHONY

39 listeners. I believe our podcast was in the top, what was it, their top 20 listens or something like that.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Which even to just be in like a single person's top 10 or top 20 is a big deal.

NALEE

Yeah, it is. Thank you guys. We wouldn't have been able to get here without you guys. Well, obviously, me and Anthony are both kind of delusional. So technically we probably could have, but you know, thanks for the support. Thanks for listening.

ANTHONY

I just want to say Nolly's slightly more delusional than me.

NALEE

I am.

ANTHONY

I'm uh I'm the realist in this group here.

NALEE

I'm straight out of the loony bin.

ANTHONY

So I signed her out against medical advice.

NALEE

But yeah, thank you guys again. Merry Christmas. We wanted to make it special. Yeah, here we are. You guys finally get to see our faces. No AI cartoon photo of us. This is who we are.

ANTHONY

So just a little airbrushing.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Refleul.

NALEE

Exactly.

ANTHONY

And just for everybody with this face reveal, I just want to let you know this is gonna be my neutral face. That's it. That's my neutral face.

NALEE

Yeah. No, Anthony, he does not hide his emotions well. So just be prepared for the emotional facial expression train. For me, I don't know. Sometimes I look kind of dazed, but you guys look you're typically more deadpan in your face.

ANTHONY

You're just like, it is what it is. But like when you listeners are now gonna have the opportunity to see that when Nolly says something like fake a seizure to get out of being kidnapped, I don't even have to use my face says it all.

Gratitude, Growth, And Delusion

NALEE

Yeah. Anyways, but yes, again, I definitely sound nicer than I look. So just be aware of that. Anthony sounds exactly like how you thought he'd look like gorgeous, beautiful smile. But yeah.

ANTHONY

Look at her coming on to me right now.

NALEE

Boy bye.

ANTHONY

I I'm interested to know. Now with our facial facial reveal, I want listeners. This is um again, I'm throwing it out there because you guys don't do this. This is your opportunity. Write into us, send into us. I want to know like did I meet your expectations? Did Nollie meet your expectations?

NALEE

Did I look like the AI version of me?

ANTHONY

Honey, you are more gorgeous than the AI version of you.

NALEE

Well, I kind of like the cartoon look, but it's fine. It is what it is.

ANTHONY

What my mama gave me, this is all natural with a little bit of eyeshadow, but going into 2026, just for our listeners to give you the heads up, we are updating our our profile pick. Yeah, it's gonna be slightly different. I know, Nolly, I know you just said that you love that cartoon version, but you love the new one even more. Remember, your your jawline is just snatched like it is in person.

NALEE

Thank you. I'm trying.

ANTHONY

We're working on it.

NALEE

We're working on it. Thank you. You look good. You look so tiny.

ANTHONY

Like we're getting we're getting smaller. Look at us working on ourselves, losing weight.

NALEE

I bought the hot girl summer 2026.

ANTHONY

2026. That's where it's all gonna start. And I made up my mind. I got my planner for 2026. Everything is gonna be written down, planned to a T. My life. I'm gonna change the trajectory of my life in 2026.

NALEE

Manifest that baby.

ANTHONY

I'm manifesting that shit. I'm putting in the work.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

And it is what it is. It's gonna work out for the best.

NALEE

All right.

ANTHONY

But uh all right, now that everybody's expectations are most likely ruined.

NALEE

Let's ruin Christmas, baby. Let's go.

ANTHONY

Ding dong. Our next segment, ping pong 20 questions. We're just gonna play a little game here. We're gonna test what we actually think about each other.

NALEE

All right. It's just fast answers, no thinking, and Anthony's face will do the work. My face will do all the work for our Okay, so it's just one sentence answers, react immediately, let the spiral begin. Okay, so I'll ask the questions and we'll answer it together. Who would forget gifts? I think I would.

ANTHONY

Forget gifts? I think that you would.

NALEE

Okay. Who would cry over wrapping paper?

ANTHONY

Probably me.

NALEE

Oh, okay.

ANTHONY

I think I would. I have this weird like thing with like wrapping papers. Sometimes it's just so pretty. But I really like the nostalgic wrapping papers from like that look older.

NALEE

I feel like I feel like we both would. Because like if I see something really cute, I'd be like, I don't even want to take it out of its wrapper. I would just leave it as a rule.

ANTHONY

Yes.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

I feel like Richard does that. Like when you give him a gift, he'll like carefully open it so that we can like save the wrapping paper and wrap something else in it.

NALEE

Okay, next question. Who would ruin Christmas first? Who?

ANTHONY

I don't feel like either one of us.

NALEE

I feel like I would.

ANTHONY

Why do you feel like you would ruin Christmas?

NALEE

Because bitch, I'm unhinged. I'm unhinged. You know my crazy. You know.

ANTHONY

I do know you're crazy. You are one fucking crazy.

NALEE

I'd probably be the drunk bitch crying and be like, fuck you. Like, you know, I feel like that.

Ping-Pong 20 Questions: Holiday Edition

ANTHONY

I mean, if we're gonna say alcohol's involved, 100% me. I would be.

NALEE

I feel like you chill when you're drunk, though.

ANTHONY

You think so?

NALEE

Yeah. I feel like you I feel like the sexy you come out. You're like, hey, like, how you doing, boo?

ANTHONY

I don't know if I want the sexy me to come out with family around. I'm assuming are we talking about family Christmas or like a friend's Christmas?

NALEE

Christmas in general. But if you're being sexy with your family, incest gets to start somewhere, boo.

ANTHONY

Not with me. No. That's a no-go for me. I think if it's me and it's with my family, I would be the first to ruin Christmas.

NALEE

Okay. Same, same. I think if it's me, I feel like I would ruin Christmas. I always do. I'm always a drunk bitch. I'm always rowdy.

ANTHONY

If it's with friends, I think that you're gonna be the one to ruin Christmas too.

NALEE

Friends?

ANTHONY

Yeah.

NALEE

Not really.

ANTHONY

No?

NALEE

I don't think so. Not with friends. Because it's uh if I'm with friends, I have this thing where I don't get too drunk. Because uh my guard's usually up.

ANTHONY

Normally when I'm with who you want to get drunk with? Like I'd rather get drunk with friends than with family.

NALEE

Yeah, but I have to make sure they're safe. I'm like Oh, you're gonna be able to do it. Yeah. Because Yeah, but I don't know, it could be different this year. It could be the year that mama comes out. So Okay, next question. Who pretends not to care but absolutely does? That's you for sure. Yeah.

ANTHONY

100% me. I'll take the blame on that. I will wholeheartedly die on that hill.

NALEE

Alright. Who already regrets this episode? Uh me. Me a thousand. Yeah, because you guys don't like you guys get to see how crazy I actually am and like our crazy facial expressions and stuff like that. Because they get to see how mean I actually look. That's why.

ANTHONY

That's why you don't look mean. You just have that RBF when it's like new people. Yeah. Like that first day at the further.

NALEE

Well, bitches my Nolly bitch hers.

ANTHONY

Nolly bitch her.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

That's what's up. I will I will say that I do not regret this episode at all at this point. I mean, this this is fun.

NALEE

Alright. The only thing I regret is the setup. It looks fucking insane in here. Like my phone's up there, my tablets here, I got boxes everywhere, mic, camera. But yeah, I Okay, I guess I shouldn't say I regret it, but I am cautiously walking, treading through this episode. Because you guys will see the many bitchy expressions that I have. But you know what? We are here. No regrets. True. Okay. But last question. Who would get cut from a Christmas special? I feel like me.

ANTHONY

I would go on some unhinged tangent about getting up on your soapbox. I would get up on my soapbox. Listen, I'm just gonna say it. I've said it before, and I'm gonna say it with my chest. The world would just be a better place if more people listened to me. There, I said it.

NALEE

I don't know, but you do have some really good talking points. I'll give you that.

ANTHONY

I can bring out good talking points to people. You do.

NALEE

Alright. Well, that tells you everything y'all need to know about me and Anthony. Does it though?

ANTHONY

Not everything.

NALEE

But it's a good start.

ANTHONY

Yeah. Are you gonna introduce our next segment?

NALEE

Yeah. So our segment. Our next segment. Just an FYI. This episode, we're not gonna really be talking or tangenting. It's more just gonna be some games to kind of get to like, I guess, break the ice a little bit because, you know, we're shy. And the shyness is tr is like doubled because now you guys have to see our face and we have to be somewhat like professional. But and yeah, my name was supposed to be what was my name?

ANTHONY

I don't remember. What was it? I'm gonna change it right now. Mid-epistology.

NALEE

Oh, it was assistant to the chaos. Yeah, that that was supposed to be my name. But we were having some technical difficulties. But yeah, here we are. Yeah. And our next segment, segment three here, which is gonna do again another rapid fire round. It's rapid fire, one word. You answer we're gonna answer the questions at the same time and kind of react to each other's answers with these face.

ANTHONY

I have like barely looked at this, what our plan was for this episode. I put you in charge.

NALEE

Yeah, it's okay.

ANTHONY

He messed up the first I messed up the first one. Yeah.

NALEE

But yeah. Alright.

ANTHONY

Time for the chaos. Fast and brutal.

NALEE

Yes, we're gonna wait for like three seconds and then we'll say it together. Okay. Okay.

ANTHONY

So I'll do one, two, three. Should we count down? Yeah.

NALEE

Yeah, I'll say one, two, three, and then we'll say it together. Okay.

ANTHONY

Okay.

NALEE

Tree of real tree. One, two, three.

ANTHONY

Real tree.

NALEE

Why?

ANTHONY

It just it brings such a good smell into the house, but I I understand that it's a lot of work. Like having to like make sure there's water in there, clean up the pine needles as they dry up and fall off.

NALEE

Bitch, that's too much work.

ANTHONY

Why is it too much work?

NALEE

I can't just Okay. Also, have you seen those videos where like the real tree fucking burns up in flames?

ANTHONY

Okay. Yeah, but I have seen that. But that can happen with an artificial tree.

NALEE

Oh, really?

ANTHONY

Yeah, why couldn't it? It's artificial. It's more like synthetic stuff that's more susceptible to starting on fire. And if you think about it, what causes the fire on a real tree? Most likely the lights.

NALEE

Yeah, I guess.

ANTHONY

So what's to stop the lights from starting a fire on an artificial tree?

NALEE

Oh no. What my thing is once I set up the tree, I don't want to touch you ever again until I have to put you away. Now you have to care for it, you have to water it, you have to like- You just have to water it.

ANTHONY

That's all you have to do.

NALEE

That's too much work for me.

ANTHONY

Girl, bye.

Rapid-Fire One-Word Hot Takes

NALEE

Okay. Next question. Matching pajamas, cute or cringe? One, two, three.

ANTHONY

Cringe.

NALEE

Cringe. I told you.

ANTHONY

You know how I feel about all of these like curated photo shoots and matching the outfits and bye. The only reason to get matching holiday pajamas for Christmas is for those pictures that they're gonna post on social media for the clout.

NALEE

I guess.

ANTHONY

And just I don't know if anybody noticed, but I did close my eyes before that because I was like, my eyes are gonna give away my answer before.

NALEE

Yeah. Alright. I don't know. I think it's cute.

ANTHONY

Why? Why? Why is it cute?

NALEE

Because I'm those bitches who would take the matching pajama photos. I've done it before. Gonna do it again. Gonna do it for the rest of my life.

ANTHONY

You have. Your whole family does that when you do your family photos.

NALEE

Yeah, sometimes we do. Yeah. Okay. Next one. Holiday work parties. Is that yes or absolutely not? Three, two, one.

ANTHONY

Yes.

unknown

Yeah.

ANTHONY

I love how you said three, two, one, and I said yes, and it you like waited an extra second. So you're just throwing. Yeah, you're just throwing me under the bus right now.

NALEE

No, I would I haven't had a holiday work party for like Christmas and stuff, but I feel like it would be fun. I kind of want to see everybody kind of get loose and like Yeah. You know, I feel like that'd be fun.

ANTHONY

But again, then that goes back to like one of our previous episodes where we discussed, well, it was brought up.

NALEE

It was addressed like Melissa, we lick in people's faces.

ANTHONY

Can be people held accountable. Yeah.

NALEE

Yeah. So that's right, Melissa. We're talking about you ho.

ANTHONY

It's all Melissa. Melissa's the reason that we're not allowed to have holiday parties.

NALEE

Yes.

ANTHONY

I'm just kidding. Just kidding.

NALEE

All right. Early decorations. Festive or desperate? Three, two, one. Desperate. Yeah. I mean, how early is early? Let's say let's say Christmas. Is October too early?

ANTHONY

Yes. Yes. The day after Halloween, too early. Anything before Thanksgiving is too early.

NALEE

Yeah, I agree. Like right after Thanksgiving, we put up that tree baby.

ANTHONY

Yes, like that would be totally acceptable. But I will say if you live in an area like we do in Wisconsin, you have to take weather into account because I'm not going to be out there in like a foot of snow after Thanksgiving trying to put up my reindeer and my lights on my bush out front. So you have to like plan according to the weather and like ahead of time.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

That's very true. Yeah, see? Look at me. A realist.

NALEE

Bougie. Last one here. Leftovers. Is that a blessing or a burden? Three, two, one.

ANTHONY

A blessing.

NALEE

Yeah. Period.

ANTHONY

We're there is nothing like l holiday leftovers. That is the best fucking shit ever. And all the things that you can do with like leftover turkey, leftover ham.

NALEE

Yeah, it's the thing of like leftovers, you don't have to cook for like the next three days. You could just eat leftovers. Three days? Damn, bitch.

ANTHONY

I'm good for like a week.

NALEE

Oh, well, I don't know. I don't I don't know. I don't really like if I pack leftovers, I don't pack like a bunch of it. I just pack to last like, I don't know, one, two, ten.

ANTHONY

So you're bringing stuff home.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Okay. I'm thinking about like if I did the cooking and I like made a full ham, which I've done before.

NALEE

Like that.

ANTHONY

And then it's like you just take the leftover ham and like you eat leftovers for a couple days, and then like when the sides are gone, any leftover like meat, like a ham, I'll I'm gonna make some like broccoli ham cheddar soup or that sounds so ham and potatoes.

NALEE

Yeah. I don't know, bitch. Like if I'm hosting, I'm just like, please take it all home. I pack it, take it all home, y'all.

ANTHONY

I will be the one to take like the meat home. Specifically, like the meat if I'm if I'm just kidding. No, but like, yeah, I love bringing home the meat because then I can just do a bunch of stuff with it.

NALEE

Okay. That's interesting. We kind of agreed on a couple of things together.

ANTHONY

We did.

NALEE

Falsely agreed. Interesting.

ANTHONY

And one of these years, we're gonna make those, like, those egg rolls that we talked about back at Thanksgiving. Because you're the deep frying queen.

NALEE

So you've been talking about it because you're like, we're gonna- That sounds so good. We're gonna make it happen for you, Anthony. Please do.

ANTHONY

That's what I want for Christmas this year.

NALEE

Bitch, nah, that's too soon. That's like in three days.

ANTHONY

No, that's today.

NALEE

Oh, wait, that's right.

ANTHONY

Are you drunk right now?

NALEE

No. I keep forgetting. We're well, yeah, we're pre-recording, so yeah, but we'll see.

ANTHONY

So you have time. Get it together, give me some egg rolls.

NALEE

Well.

ANTHONY

Don't forget the gravy to dip it in.

NALEE

I cannot guarantee. I cannot confirm nor deny. So we'll see. Maybe next year. Maybe in January. It'll be a New Year's thing.

ANTHONY

Okay, fine. We'll do it on New Year's.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

I'm gonna hold you to that. Just in FYI.

NALEE

Well, I didn't say it's gonna be in twenty twenty six. I said New Year's.

ANTHONY

Okay. Semantics now. Now you're really getting Okay.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

I need my waiters on at this point for fucking. Wow. That was fun though. We did we did agree on a couple things, but I still have you ever had a real tree?

NALEE

No, I ain't that bougie. I real trees are so expensive.

ANTHONY

You think so?

NALEE

Well, I mean, I guess I don't know. I've never bought a real tree, but it looks expensive. Like it can be.

ANTHONY

Prices have gone up.

Real Vs Fake Trees Debate Spirals

NALEE

Yeah, and Glee, like the trees look real expensive. So and y'all know me. I'm a cheap bitch. If I could reuse, I'd reuse it.

ANTHONY

But you pay for the quality that you get of the tree.

NALEE

Do I look like a quality tree in my house?

ANTHONY

Yeah, you look like you look like a woman of quality. You prefer things that are quality.

NALEE

Yeah, you're right. But with a cheap price. See.

ANTHONY

I can't. I just can't win with you.

NALEE

No, I'm not getting a real tree. That's too much work.

ANTHONY

Unless Yep.

NALEE

I don't know. Unless I get unless we win the lottery, maybe next year I'll do a real tree.

ANTHONY

But we're gonna win the lottery, and then next year you'll do a full fucking blown Kardashian style holiday party with real Christmas trees.

NALEE

Exactly.

ANTHONY

Lining your walkway. They'll probably add an ice skating pond in the backyard.

NALEE

Yep. Make fake snow with the real snow.

ANTHONY

And then come 2028, you're gonna be broke. And I'm gonna be over here like, bitch, I invested my money.

NALEE

On real trees?

ANTHONY

No, I ain't gonna buy I'll buy one real tree.

NALEE

No, that's too much for me. You'd be like, You'd be like, I'm living large, son! Look at all these Christmas trees. No, it's a real quick no for me.

ANTHONY

No, I think a real tree is something though that everybody should experience at least once.

NALEE

Hold on, bitch. Did we really just talk about trees for five minutes?

ANTHONY

Yes.

NALEE

I don't know. I feel like fake trees are better. I think it's more versatile.

ANTHONY

Versatile in what way?

NALEE

Like you could fold it up and put it away and reuse it the next year compared to real tree. That's it.

ANTHONY

Yeah, but then if you if you get a real tree, it's different every year because you're never gonna have a tree that looks identical. You know what I mean? Like the style, the branches.

NALEE

Like I'm already worrying about presents and shit. That's one less thing for me to worry about.

ANTHONY

Okay. So well, I'll change the subject so we don't have to talk have to talk about Christmas trees anymore.

NALEE

Thank you.

ANTHONY

I just want to say that Christmas trees are the quintessential piece of Christmas.

NALEE

Yeah, and it could be real or fake, guys. Don't don't take Anthony's bougie ass judgment right there. We can't all afford a real tree every year.

ANTHONY

I don't get real trees anymore, but I said it's just nice. Like I would prefer one.

NALEE

I can't.

ANTHONY

I'm sorry. Fine.

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Fine.

ANTHONY

Are we doing a holiday party this year or what?

NALEE

I don't think so. Fuck 220.

ANTHONY

And for our listeners, we always do our Christmas party after Christmas because of course. Do we? Yeah, I feel like we do.

NALEE

Do we have a Christmas party? I don't know.

ANTHONY

We used to. We didn't have one last year.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

That's when we asked if we were gonna do it one this year.

NALEE

This year has been rough. We'd be living in the streets. So Yeah, but we can't.

ANTHONY

We need to the year's coming to a close. We're gonna put this year behind us. We're gonna put it to bed. We're gonna welcome 2026 with open arms, positivity, manifestation. That powerball. We're gonna win the lottery.

NALEE

Did you oh my god, somebody won fucking$50,000? Heather, Heather can't.

ANTHONY

Yeah. At the same quick trip that Heather would buy her lottery tickets at. And the one week she didn't buy lottery tickets, that could have been us.

NALEE

That could have been us.

ANTHONY

Yeah.

NALEE

That could have been us.

ANTHONY

That would have been like, what, sixteen thousand dollars each?

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

32.

NALEE

About Well, you better tell her to get her ass on it.

ANTHONY

I told her. I texted her today. I said, the Powerball.

NALEE

She got one more. The baby girl's out.

ANTHONY

Yep. That's what's up. I'm gonna send this to her and be like, listen, here's here's where we're at in life right now.

NALEE

Here's where we're at in life right now.

ANTHONY

Here's where we're at in life. You are committed to us until we win the lottery. You're not you're not gonna get out of this live.

NALEE

Exactly.

ANTHONY

Yes, I am threatening your life right now.

NALEE

Yes, I am threatening your life right now.

ANTHONY

If you know what's good for you.

NALEE

Yes.

ANTHONY

Just kidding.

NALEE

Alright. Well, we're gonna do segment four Unhinged Hypotheticals. And like I said, we are just doing a bunch of games, and then maybe at the end, if we wanna tangent off, we can. But this is just a lot of hypotheticals and maybe a little bit unhinged.

ANTHONY

This is gonna be the peak chaos moment. I'm gonna bring the chaos right now.

NALEE

Yes. Okay. So I have a couple of questions here. And we're just gonna deep dive right into it. I was gonna say deep dive into it, but that's the same thing that works too. Okay. Anyways, Santa watched you all year. Are you getting gifts?

ANTHONY

Oh, you're asking me. We're not answering together.

NALEE

Yeah, yeah.

ANTHONY

Right. Okay. Alright. Just want to make sure. Of course I would be getting gifts. If anybody who's met me knows that I lead with my heart and emotion, and I'm such a nice person.

NALEE

He really is.

ANTHONY

Is it coming across on my face that I'm fake? I'm just kidding. No, I think that I would. I think that assuming that No Man, I'm not even gonna go there. I'm not gonna open that can of worms. Yes, I think that I would get presents because I think that at the end of the year, if all all the good that I do outweighs the bad. And like everything is coming from my heart, like from a true place, genuine place, and from my heart. I don't ever do anything out of malice, spite, or just to be a fucking bitch.

NALEE

Okay.

ANTHONY

What about you?

NALEE

For me, whether I get gifts or not, I'm fucking demanding gifts from Santa.

ANTHONY

This bitch. You are the one.

NALEE

Nolly would be the one to gun Santa's head, like to drive up to the North Pole and be like, you stupid little elves, where are my gifts? Yeah. Mama has come to town and she is ready for a present.

ANTHONY

Shit, at this point, why don't you just kill Mrs. Claus and become the new Miss?

NALEE

Because I don't want to stick with a fatty. I'm already a fatty mess.

Holiday Parties, Leftovers, And Weather Rules

ANTHONY

Stop. But he's got a bowl full of jelly for a tummy. Someone else learned. Yeah, exactly. I'm just now I'm thinking of that video I sent you that I told you to watch from Scary Movie where she's talking dirty and she's in the football uniform. So I'm just picturing you being Mrs. Claus right now.

NALEE

Bye.

ANTHONY

Bye.

NALEE

Shake the belly full of jelly.

ANTHONY

Yep.

NALEE

Show mama what you got.

ANTHONY

Show mama what you're working with.

NALEE

Exactly. What my gifts at? I'm ready for that. I'm ready for that little gift. I'm ready to unwrap that little gift underneath the Christmas tree.

ANTHONY

He's gonna give you his peppermint stick. That's what he's gonna do.

NALEE

I like peppermint. That's okay. Right up my alley.

ANTHONY

Now I'm picturing things that I really don't want to be picturing right now.

NALEE

So the next question.

ANTHONY

Alright, now that you've stolen the Christmas gifts from little children. The Grinch. I'm the Grinch. No, you're not the Grinch.

NALEE

Alright. Which holiday movie character needs to be stopped immediately?

ANTHONY

Which holiday movie character needs to be stopped immediately?

NALEE

I'll go first on this one.

ANTHONY

Okay.

NALEE

Will Farrell from The Elf.

ANTHONY

Done.

NALEE

Yeah. Sarah's coming! Sarah's coming!

ANTHONY

I'll give you that one. I can't Will Farrell.

NALEE

Yeah, unpopular opinion.

ANTHONY

He sucks. He's not a good actor.

NALEE

Big fan of Will Farrell.

ANTHONY

We're gonna get a lot of hate for this, you know that, right?

NALEE

But everybody knows this. I think that's one of the things that we've talked about before. Like, I've talked with other people. Like, I think he he's made a couple of pretty good movies. I will have to admit to that.

ANTHONY

But And he's had a few good characters.

NALEE

Yeah. Like Lego was really good. Stepbrothers was good.

ANTHONY

Stepbrothers was good. I'll give you that one. Elf is just unpopular opinion. Elf is overrated.

NALEE

Yeah, it is. Yeah. Yeah. It's overrated for sure. I can't with his character. I can't.

ANTHONY

No. But I will say, for the purpose of the movie and what they were going for, he did his acting was on point as far as being that annoying, yeah, overly happy, overly, but oh no.

NALEE

I didn't like it.

ANTHONY

I just can't get past Will Farrell.

NALEE

Yeah, I didn't like it. But I will say, I will give it to him. I love almost excuse me, all of his uh SNL skits. I love them.

ANTHONY

I don't know that I've seen any of his SNL.

NALEE

Like one is the Cowbell one. I think if you guys watch SNL, the Cowbell one is pretty fucking hilarious. The one where he does with Jimmy Fallon. Well, this is Jimmy Jimmy Fallon now, but he does like this really funny skit with Jimmy Fallon. I'll have to find it, but it's them with the tight pants. That skit's pretty funny. But yeah. I love SNL. I love Jimmy Fallon.

ANTHONY

Never heard of any of these. I love Jimmy Fallon.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

I think he's so creative and so funny.

NALEE

Yeah. He was so good looking when he was younger.

ANTHONY

Alright, girl, you need a moment.

NALEE

No, no, no, no, no. I'm just saying.

ANTHONY

Getting a little moist.

NALEE

Just a little bit, just a tad. You're over there like the hot cocoa's coming back. Oh no.

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Oh my god.

NALEE

I did my nails.

ANTHONY

What are they?

NALEE

I don't know. It's like red.

ANTHONY

You need them, but you don't know what they are?

NALEE

Yeah, it's supposed to it's supposed to be like Christmas polka dots? No, it's like I don't know, Christmas ornaments? I don't fucking know. I just saw it on Pinterest and I was like, oh, those are cute. I don't think I delivered, but still, it's fine.

ANTHONY

It's just for yourself. It doesn't matter.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Yeah.

NALEE

Alright. Next question. If you had to ban one holiday song forever, which one song would you?

ANTHONY

You already know.

NALEE

It's time.

ANTHONY

All I want for Christmas, Mariah Carrie. Yeah. Overrated. I can't.

NALEE

Yeah, but it's really catchy.

ANTHONY

It's a good song. It's catchy. I think I get so frustrated with the fact that it's like every year it's the same shit.

NALEE

And she's like, oh, I re-recorded it with Justin Bieber. Oh, I re-recorded it with Harry Stack.

ANTHONY

Bitch, it's the same fucking song. I don't give a shit. It's overplayed. And what's even worse is like literally when they start playing Christmas music before Thanksgiving. Nards will fucking do that.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

And that song is like Or the radio. Or the radio.

NALEE

It's like Thanksgiving and it's already on.

ANTHONY

One time I was playing volleyball at the complex and somebody decided to play that. It was like fucking July, and they played it on the jukebox. And I was like, if I find out who did this, it's Stabby Joe. Dexter. Dexter is coming out.

NALEE

I agree. Yeah. I think that one, All I Want for Christmas, is definitely overrated. I think if it could be gone, I think I'd be I'd like to do that.

ANTHONY

I would live a happy life.

NALEE

Yeah, I'd love fine.

ANTHONY

And that's probably another unpopular opinion because people like Really?

NALEE

I feel like a lot of people don't like that song. Because it's so overplayed.

ANTHONY

Listeners, Ali, you're in charge of socials. I want to poll on social media.

NALEE

Yeah. Okay. Done.

ANTHONY

Done.

NALEE

All right. If your holiday season were a reality show, what's it called?

ANTHONY

Oh, for fuck's sake. I'm gonna need a second to think about this one because it's I'm gonna need a second too.

Unhinged Hypotheticals: Santa, Elf, And Mariah

NALEE

Okay, I'm gonna So if your holiday season were a reality show, what's it called?

ANTHONY

If it was this holiday season, it would just be called canceled. Canceled because I literally have not a single Christmas decoration. I didn't even put a Christmas tree up this year.

NALEE

Wow. Me too.

ANTHONY

It just hasn't felt very Christmassy with everything that we've been going through and like a bit rough. Yeah. Okay. I've been trying to find the I tried to like muster up the oomph to like get gifts and wrap them. And it was just like, I'm throwing it in a fucking gift bag, some tissue paper on top. You're lucky you're getting anything.

NALEE

Like Yeah, lucky you're getting anything.

ANTHONY

Yeah. Like I'm just not feeling it this year. And I'm it's unfortunate because I do like all I've stopped and I've thought, I'm like, this is literally the f 38 years old, and this is the first time in my entire life that I haven't had a Christmas tree up.

NALEE

Yeah. You're very, you're definitely very festive. Like you do change your your house up with every season.

ANTHONY

So every season, every holiday, yeah. I still have all of my fall decorations up.

NALEE

That's okay.

ANTHONY

Yeah, it is what it is.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

So yeah, so it would be canceled.

NALEE

Okay.

ANTHONY

What about you? Do you need more time?

NALEE

We is gonna shout and we are gonna cry because life is a fucking dubs of fire. Yeah. I'm in the same boat and I think I'm gonna be a bitch, but if you had a good 2025.

ANTHONY

Oh god.

NALEE

Stay over there.

ANTHONY

Here's where we get canceled.

NALEE

So we'll come into town. But yeah. Um yeah, I agree. I think it's just not that festive this year. There's just a lot of shit going on. It's not. But you know what? We're gonna leave that shit in 2025.

ANTHONY

That's what's up.

NALEE

Come 2026. Bitch, we is gonna be glowing. We is gonna be rich. We're gonna win that lottery. We're going on trips. All the above.

ANTHONY

Yep. And I'm gonna like I said, I bought my planner. So I'm everything is gonna be planned and organized. Um this is the year.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

I say that every year, but this year I'm like actively like going to work harder at making sure that this You know what's funny?

NALEE

I actually bought like a planner in like October, and I was just like, okay, I'm gonna write what I'm gonna do every day. I'm gonna find everything out. Bitch, I haven't touched it since.

ANTHONY

I know that and that's normally how I am. And I'm like, I'll start it, and then like a weekend, I'm like, how the fuck do people do this?

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Like it's like a full-time job just planning and like writing and detailing everything out. But you know what? We're gonna do it. 2026.

NALEE

Yeah, you got this, boo.

ANTHONY

Got this. We got this.

NALEE

We got this. All right. Last question here. What's your holiday villain origin story?

ANTHONY

You go first.

NALEE

Let me see. The Grinch, yeah.

ANTHONY

Why details?

NALEE

Cause I ain't feeling it. Everybody's mean. And I'm gonna make everybody pay.

ANTHONY

But the Grinch doesn't make people pay. Yeah, by the end of the movie. You what?

NALEE

I'm gonna isolate myself and when everybody is asleep and they're all cuddled up, homegirls gonna come out and steal all their gifts.

ANTHONY

And then give them back at the end of the movie, right?

NALEE

Yeah, I'm gonna boot her out and be like, bye, bitch. Peace out.

ANTHONY

That's the Christmas spirit. That's what we were looking for.

NALEE

Damn. What about you? That got a little dark, sorry.

ANTHONY

That did get dark. My holiday villain origin story. I would probably be like the evil Santa Claus from the Santa Claus 3 with Tim Allen.

NALEE

Hmm. Okay. I totally forgot about those movies.

ANTHONY

Yeah.

NALEE

Yeah, I love Santa Claus. Yeah, I didn't really like part three. Part three, but I think part one was my favorite.

ANTHONY

There's those movies that are just like such classics that you just shouldn't touch.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Like I know I've talked to you before about that movie, A Christmas Story, and how it's like one of my favorite Christmas movies, and I have to watch it every year.

NALEE

Have you watched it this year yet?

ANTHONY

I have, actually. I did. I watched it in bed like a week ago, two weeks ago.

NALEE

Interesting.

ANTHONY

But they made a sequel to it nearly like what? Like, I don't know, 30, 40 years later. And it was just like it should have been left alone. It's not horrible, but it should have been left alone.

NALEE

I'm a big fan of like sequels. Like the only one I would say that I actually really liked is probably Here.

ANTHONY

Twilight.

NALEE

And yeah, and Twilight.

ANTHONY

Of course.

NALEE

And maybe Lord of the Rings. But like, I know, that's judge me. I'm a nerd. I love.

ANTHONY

And I went over to my cousin cousins for Thanksgiving, and that's what they were watching was Lord of the Rings. And her youngest son was like quoting the entire movie. And I'm fine quoting movies, but like horrible. I'm like, that's a six-hour fucking movie, and you know, verbatim word for word.

NALEE

Good for him.

ANTHONY

No, not good for I'm sorry. Lord of the Rings, not met not for me. That's a no for me.

NALEE

I like Lord of the Rings.

ANTHONY

You have a better chance of getting me to watch Twilight.

NALEE

I was obsessed with Orlando Bloom. Obsessed. Obsessed. But yeah. I think I'm gonna need like a five-minute break. Oh my god, I'm done.

ANTHONY

Did you join did you see the pictures of him and Katie Perry paddle boarding?

NALEE

Yeah, but I think they broke up.

ANTHONY

Yeah, but I mean it w it was a while ago, but I mean he was but ass naked.

NALEE

He looks a little rough. I liked him a lot in uh Lord of the Rings and in Pirates of the Caribbean. That's also really good.

ANTHONY

That was, in my opinion, that was his only good movie.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Pirates of the Caribbean.

NALEE

Yeah. All right.

ANTHONY

Well, that was pretty much it. I don't regret any of my answers. I stick with everything wholeheartedly.

NALEE

Okay. Well, that's the best way to go. We say with our chest here.

ANTHONY

Say it with our chest.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Okay. Let's let the festivities continue. You're in charge of this. Putting the ball all in you.

Canceled Christmas Vibes And 2026 Manifesting

NALEE

Okay, got it. All right. So our next segment here is celebrity Christmas chaos. Let's bring celebrities into this mess.

ANTHONY

They didn't ask for it, but I love when we bring celebrities in. We haven't done that because most of our episodes have been talking about like us and stuff.

NALEE

I know. But I've been in a while. Like our maybe like the our first couple of episodes was we had that like celebrity thing. But all right. Who ruins Christmas dinner? Mariah Carey, Ryan Reynolds, The Rock, or Taylor Swift.

ANTHONY

Okay, those are my only options.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Mariah Carey.

NALEE

What?

ANTHONY

Because she's like, okay, she's pretty much been dubbed for me, like, from my understanding, as the Queen of Christmas.

NALEE

You think so?

ANTHONY

I feel like it because, again, going back to all I want for Christmas, like every year. It's overplayed, it's overdone. And so she would ruin it for me just from a standpoint of I get being a diva, but she's she's a diva to the point where I'm like, I don't want to be around you. You know what I mean? Like it's annoying. Yeah. It's like when when somebody knows that they're pretty and they lean into it and they're like, I am so gorgeous. Like that's how Mariah Carey is. Like I feel she's not that pretty.

NALEE

I think she's gorgeous, but I agree. I think it'll be more very fun.

ANTHONY

Do you think Mr. Ed was gorgeous too?

NALEE

Who's that?

ANTHONY

Oh yeah, you're young. Mr. Ed was a horse, a talking horse. What the fuck? Yeah, I don't know. Popular opinion, I said it. Mariah Carey looks like a horse.

NALEE

You think she looks like a horse? I can't see that.

ANTHONY

Okay. I'll send you some.

NALEE

She's gorgeous.

ANTHONY

I'll send you some side-by-sides later and then we'll talk. And just for clarification, this has nothing to do with Mariah Carey herself, because I love Sarah Jessica Parker, and I'll tell you she looks like a horse too.

NALEE

She does. I will agree with that. I will agree with that. She does. That's what I was thinking when you said horse. But damn, that was that was really fucking mean.

ANTHONY

But uh I said it with my chest.

NALEE

But Mariah Carey, yes, I would agree a thousand percent. I think I'm already a diva myself, bitch. I don't need that energy.

ANTHONY

You don't need the competition.

NALEE

Exactly. Yeah, I don't need the competition. Because I know I'll lose, because I'm poor.

ANTHONY

So I'm sorry, you're what?

NALEE

I'm poor.

ANTHONY

Oh, I thought you said you were a whore.

NALEE

That too, but but no, I'm just kidding. Yeah, I I don't need the competition right now, bitch. I you know you got money. You already slept with Nick Cannon. We get it. You got you are above.

ANTHONY

Which, by the way, that is not an accomplishment in life. I just want to throw that out there.

NALEE

I get it, but Nick Cannon's hot. I'd be his baby dad.

ANTHONY

Yeah, you and about 15 other fucking women.

NALEE

Yeah, that's okay. I can't do that.

ANTHONY

Do you think that that's okay?

NALEE

What?

ANTHONY

Do you think that that's okay?

NALEE

Having like six like a thousand kids?

ANTHONY

No, having like 500 baby mamas.

NALEE

No, bitch.

ANTHONY

Okay, let's we could get we can cause some drama here. Let's talk about the whole like brand. And Chelsea thing.

NALEE

But I wouldn't mind, I wouldn't mind getting a taste. I'm just gonna say that.

ANTHONY

His pullout game is weak.

NALEE

Apparently, some uh yeah. I will wear the condom. That's okay. He don't got to. But okay. Yes. Side tangent. Now we're gonna side tangent. Okay.

ANTHONY

Yes.

NALEE

So if you guys don't know, me and Anthony are obsessed with selling sunset. Selling sunset.

ANTHONY

Yes. Selling the OC.

NALEE

Yeah, all of it.

ANTHONY

Have you watched Selling Manhattan or I tried to watch Selling Manhattan Selling Manhattan, but I couldn't get into it.

NALEE

Okay. I didn't either. But maybe I'll have to give it a try because I didn't like the OC before either. And then I watched it again. I'm like, okay.

ANTHONY

I feel like the houses on like selling the OC and selling sunset are more your vibe? More my vibe. Like New York and Manhattan, it's more like industrial style.

NALEE

It's very studio-like.

ANTHONY

Yeah. And that's that's not me. I want homie. I want to be able to come home and like relax.

NALEE

But you'd be it like you'd be surprised at how crazy some houses in New York are, though.

ANTHONY

Oh, I will I'm sure.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Maybe I'll give it another go.

NALEE

Yeah, I love New York.

ANTHONY

Okay, but now we're tangenting. We really need we need to get to the top, the main tangent.

NALEE

What is your me tangent about Brie and Chriselle?

ANTHONY

No, Brienne Chelsea.

NALEE

Spoiler alert.

ANTHONY

Brienne Chelsea. Not Chriselle. So Brienne Chelsea had that beef in the beginning because Chelsea was very judgmental towards Brie being one of Nick Cannon's many baby mamas. And I get it. Two each their own. It's your thing. It's a no for me. I think that that is so tacky.

NALEE

Okay. Interesting.

ANTHONY

Like I can understand being like, I'm in a relationship with Nollie and we had kids and we separated. And now I'm in a relationship with Melissa. We had kids and now we separated.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

But he's not in like genuine relationships with these women, from my understanding, unless I'm just being a judgy little bitch.

NALEE

No, I don't I don't know what the like actual like backstory of that is. I just know that he has like a thousand baby mamas and like a thousand kids. Yeah. In my opinion, in my humble opinion, uh look at her. Yeah. For me, yeah. I I wouldn't mind getting a lick, getting a low taste, but to live in that lifestyle, probably not. Like it's also a no like I want to be in a genuine, like intimate relationship. And bitch, I'm not one to share my fucking man. And if he's you know, if he's if he's okay with that, you are for the streets, not for me. Not for mates and never yeah.

ANTHONY

Well, and it's like, again, this is just my opinion. This is what's gonna get me canceled. Everything we always say something that's gonna get us canceled.

NALEE

It's okay. People still coming, it's fine.

ANTHONY

I think there was clear intention of having kids with each woman.

NALEE

What do you mean?

ANTHONY

Like, I th how do I say this?

NALEE

You know what?

ANTHONY

I feel like he went into each relationship with each woman. Knowing that he's gonna have a knowing that he's gonna have kids and that it wasn't gonna be forever.

NALEE

Oh right?

ANTHONY

So it would be like me going like in a relationship with you, us having kids, but knowing that we're not end game. So he's just he's a serial reproducer.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Like I think it's all intentional. Like if he could fuck every woman in a city and have kids with him, he would be fine with it.

NALEE

Yeah, I agree.

ANTHONY

Cancelled.

NALEE

I mean, I don't know. Nick Cannon's hot too, though. So I mean, I can't like if somebody were to say, hey, and this is y'all don't judge me for it. It's okay.

ANTHONY

I got a question. Okay, go ahead.

NALEE

If somebody came up to me and said, Hey, would you sleep with Nick Cannon and you are you could be his baby mama and you could you're you're set for life? Shit, I wouldn't say no. I wouldn't say no.

ANTHONY

Do you think that they're set for life?

NALEE

I don't know. But that's if that was the hypothetical, I would be like, sure, why not?

ANTHONY

But Okay, if that was the hypothetical. That was and that was kind of my question. So if they were like, hey, would you have three kids with Nick Cannon?

NALEE

Not three fucking kids, just one.

ANTHONY

Oh, just one. And then he can go and impregnate the next one.

NALEE

Yeah. I think if that was the lifestyle, then I'd be like, yeah, as long as I'm set for life, then, you know, maybe I might not have a committed relationship with him, but I could still obviously have a committed relationship with somebody else, but just have, oh shit. Sorry. Episode Earthquake! If I was to live in that lifestyle, but I could still have a committed relationship outside of the me and Nick Cannon relationship, I'd be fine with that.

ANTHONY

You would be fine with that.

NALEE

Yeah. Cause he'd be setting me for life, but then I don't have to stick with him. I could actually go and find some somebody who I'm I could have a genuine connection with.

ANTHONY

Okay. So see, now we're back to Nolly being delusional because there's no way that that's gonna happen. You don't know I mean I mean, as far as like even reality-wise, like there's no way he set these women up for life. Or like set them up. And none of my business. And yes, I am judging, but I'm curious, I wonder if he actually pays child support for all of his.

NALEE

I think he does. I think he does.

ANTHONY

Do you think so?

NALEE

I think so. He makes a lot of money. He like Does he? Yeah. I mean, I get it. People make fun of him because he is a serial hoe, but um That's the problem, is he's a hoe. Yeah. I mean, we shouldn't be judging. We have a whole ass home unity. So I mean, to each their own.

ANTHONY

Yeah, but we hoes with class.

NALEE

You true. You true. That's true. You true, you true. But uh I think with yeah, he makes a lot of money because he has Wild and Out. I love Wild and Out.

ANTHONY

I've never heard of it. Yeah, it's not you like America's Got Talent or something.

NALEE

I don't know, but he's in the masked singer. He's a host for that.

ANTHONY

Maybe that's what I'm thinking.

NALEE

And then I think he's in a lot of a lot of other stuff too. But yeah, I mean, just kind of circling back to the Bree and Chelsea situation, like realistically, yeah, that's again, I'm a jealous, delusional, crazy bitch. I don't share my man. So regardless of if like that's what they went in with the intention of just having babies and shit, yeah, it's an L for me.

ANTHONY

Yeah. Yeah. Okay, now I tangent it off. I'm sorry.

NALEE

Yeah, if I found out that that's the case, I don't know. Addict me coming off. That's all I gotta say.

ANTHONY

I just want to throw out there that I did look this up. So he has 12 children with six different women. And he he has publicly stated that he does not participate in the traditional government-run child support system for any of his children. Instead, he claims he provides for them directly and that whatever they need, they get it.

NALEE

Yeah, see, he that's life. If I said, hey, I need 15 mil, you better fucking show up with the 15 mil.

ANTHONY

Well, that won't happen because he also went on to say that he spends over three million dollars per year supporting his 12 kids financially.

NALEE

That's crazy. Holy shit.

ANTHONY

So I doubt that it's gonna be 15 million for one child.

NALEE

I guess.

ANTHONY

But so even if you say five million, yeah. Divide that by twelve.

NALEE

It's still a lot of money, though, regardless. That's a lot of money.

ANTHONY

It's still a lot of money.

NALEE

But yeah, uh, that's insane.

ANTHONY

Yeah, it's a no for me.

NALEE

Six different women, yeah. You know what? They should make a uh Netflix documentary on Nick Cannon.

ANTHONY

They that's actually a really uh good idea because I would love to hear, you know, this whole this whole like my knowledge of this all started from watching Selling Sunset and seeing what Brie the situation with Brie and Chelsea. Yeah, I never knew.

NALEE

Wow.

ANTHONY

As far as I knew, Nick Cannon was like, wasn't he a Nickelodeon star at some point?

NALEE

I don't think he was a Nickelodeon star, but I know he like he was an actor first. Like he did drumline, that's kind of where he blew up.

ANTHONY

Never even heard of that.

NALEE

And then he just went on and did a couple movies, but I think he's most known for being Mariah Curie's ex-husband because they had two ends.

ANTHONY

Yes.

NALEE

Oh.

ANTHONY

Because he was the one who got who got her to have kids.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Because they were her first kids ever.

NALEE

Yeah. Damn, he does have a either he does have a weak poll-out game or again, it's intentional.

ANTHONY

Or it's intentional.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

But still he's like, Yeah, baby, I got the rubber on. Dumb bitch.

NALEE

But yeah, I don't know. That's that's somebody else's circus, so it's okay.

ANTHONY

Speaking of which, I just want to let our listeners know that there also is that is that is called stealthing, and that is actually illegal, and you can be in trouble for that. So just enough.

NALEE

Stealthing?

ANTHONY

Stealthing.

NALEE

What is that?

ANTHONY

It's like when people are having sex with a condom and they remove the condom without their partner knowing.

NALEE

I would agree to that. What the fuck? That's fucked up.

ANTHONY

It's yeah. So it is illegal.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

They can get yeah, they can get in trouble with the law for that. So I just want to fun random fact that I learned that I know.

NALEE

That's fucked up though. Like, let's say if like I'm like, oh yeah, put on condom on, and just because your little bitch ass can't don't like the feel of a condom, bitch, get the fuck out of here. Yeah. No. Because you could ruin somebody's life. Yeah. What if you got pregnant? You know what I mean?

ANTHONY

Or what if they had STDs? Or yeah.

NALEE

Yeah. Only raw dog it with somebody you know that is gonna commit to you guys. Okay? Let's be smart here.

ANTHONY

And commit to you for more than just those 90 seconds.

NALEE

Exactly. All right, who's banned from hosting Christmas?

ANTHONY

From those same people or just in general?

NALEE

Are there any celebrity, just in general?

ANTHONY

Any Kardashian.

NALEE

What? I feel like that that'd be so fun.

ANTHONY

Yeah, they look fun, but uh but it's also like it is pretty to look at when they're doing their holiday parties and they have everybody over, but it I almost feel like it's like rubbing it in the I'm jealous. Josh is gonna come for me right now. He's like, Are you just jealous because you can't do it? Yeah, Josh, I'm fucking jealous.

NALEE

But I feel like it's like I feel like you what? I feel like it's curated.

ANTHONY

Yeah, it's curated, but it's also like I feel it's it's like a millionaire rubbing in people's face. Like, look what we can do that you can't, right? Yeah. So it's like when you when you when we see this on social media, we're expected to live vicariously through them. Yeah. Right. It's pretty to look at, but it's it's really truly unnecessary. I like a whole fucking they've turned their entire backyard into a wonderland and like had an ice skating rink and had fake snow brought in. Like, really? Really?

NALEE

You know, I think we're just jealous of them.

ANTHONY

I'm not negating that. I do have some jealousy of it, but it's like do it. I would I would be more supportive if they did it and didn't make a big deal about it on like the news and entertainment tonight and on their social media, like privacy. It's the holidays, it's your Christmas party.

NALEE

Having a crime. I would have respect for them if if like they use that money to donate it to people who actually don't have Christmas because they have they have so much money, they could do so much with that amount of money. Like spending, I don't know,$500 on a specialized wrapping paper, bitch.

ANTHONY

$500?

NALEE

Yeah, like I mean, it's I'm just exaggerating. You could obviously more than that. You know, like you could do so much with money, and if you really think about it, there's a lot of people in need. Like, bitch, donate to me.

ANTHONY

There's people dying, Kim.

NALEE

In Africa.

ANTHONY

In Africa.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

No, I agree with that. And like they're gonna throw this big, lavish, glamorous party where they're gonna invite all of their millionaire friend friends, maybe be like, okay, we're inviting you, but can you make a$500,000 donation to the Los Angeles whatever?

NALEE

Children, something. I don't know.

ANTHONY

Yeah.

NALEE

Yeah. For me, it would be Kanye. I love Kanye, like I love his music, but yeah. He's he's a different kind of delusional.

ANTHONY

I could remove him from the world completely and I would be I wouldn't say it's a wink.

NALEE

Kanye. I like King.

ANTHONY

I know you do. I know. And you like his shoes.

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NALEE

Not me, B likes his shoes, but don't you have a pair? But yeah, it's uh Yeah, he's crazy. So technically, still aligns with Kardashians. I don't know.

ANTHONY

Yeah.

NALEE

But yeah, I don't know. I feel like I would respect them more if they actually did something with that.

ANTHONY

The Kardashians? Okay, but let I wanna let's go back to this whole Kanye thing. So why are you banning him from hosting Christmas? Aside from the fact that he's crazy. Like, is there any correlation or relation to Christmas specifically?

NALEE

Not really.

ANTHONY

No? Okay.

NALEE

No. He's the only person I could think at the top of my head where it's like, whoa, he's crazy. I feel like if let's just say if he was to become president, he would totally like fuck shit up. I mean, we're not gonna talk about politics, but we're not talking politics. Yeah.

ANTHONY

That wasn't the eye roll. The eye roll was the thought of him even becoming president.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

But like how how much will we have fallen if we voted for Kanye West in the world?

NALEE

We'd die within like a yeah.

ANTHONY

Fucking White House.

NALEE

Yeah, I feel like we'd die within a year. I mean, we're dying now, but that's besides the point. But yeah. That's all that's all I could think of. Okay. Alright. Now this I don't really know, so I'm gonna let you answer it. Maybe you will know a little bit more than me, because I personally I don't really keep up with a lot of like social media and stuff because I'm self-absorbed and I just do my own shit. Who absolutely has a weird holiday tradition? Celebrity-wise.

ANTHONY

I don't I don't really know. Oh honestly, when it comes to celebrities, and I think of Christmas, I only think of two. I think of Mariah Carey and the Kardashians.

NALEE

Interesting. Okay. Well, we could scratch that.

ANTHONY

Yeah, I don't if our listeners know of anything, like, but I will say the whole Kardashian Christmas party thing, it is a kind of a weird holiday tradition because again, the holidays are supposed to be about spending time with your family, the people you love, privacy. And here they are, social media nonstop. Like, to me, that's a little weird. And obviously, like you said, like it's all curated and fake. I have a question I thought of that I want to ask, going back to your previous question about who's banned from hosting Christmas.

NALEE

Okay.

ANTHONY

Who would you, if you were to throw a Christmas party, what celebrities, we'll say five, top five celebrities, would you want to invite to your holiday event and why? That would that would like make Christmas, right?

NALEE

For me, it would be Jimmy Fallon. He gives really good gifts, I heard.

ANTHONY

Okay.

NALEE

So that's more of like a selfish reason. And free entertainment. Five celebrities. Okay, so we got Jimmy Fallon, Michelle Obama. I feel like that's fun to spend time with her for Christmas. Henry Campbell. He's my present under the tree.

ANTHONY

He'll be there at midnight waiting for you, wrapped in a bow.

NALEE

Period. Let's see. I have two slots left. I'm trying to think if I want this to be a sexual encounter.

ANTHONY

Girl, this after I j after I literally just got done saying the holidays are for family and friends.

NALEE

Hey, we could make a family. Excuse you. Let's see. Trying to think.

ANTHONY

So we have Henry Cavill, Michelle Obama, Jimmy Fallon. Jimmy Fallon.

NALEE

Trying to think who I really like right now. Um, Mel Robbins.

ANTHONY

I feel like she'd be really That's an interesting choice for Christmas.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

I could see it.

NALEE

And then see, who else? Still thinking. Do you know your celebrities?

ANTHONY

I do.

NALEE

Okay. So let's go back on to you. Let's put this question on you, and then I'll think about my last celebrity.

ANTHONY

Okay, you think of your last celebrity. I'm gonna throw mine out. So I would invite, and as much as I'm not a fan of him as a person.

NALEE

Okay.

ANTHONY

I like his character. I would invite Tim Allen as Santa Claus.

NALEE

Nice. Okay.

ANTHONY

But I feel like he's I think of Christmas when I think of Tim Allen since he started doing those movies. So I would do Tim Allen. So you already know I had to invite Taylor.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Oh. Okay, now I guess I didn't know I didn't know my celebrities because now I gotta If I invite Taylor, I gotta invite Travis.

NALEE

Really? You'd sacrifice one whole ass person for I do because I do like Travis.

ANTHONY

I do like his personality.

NALEE

Okay. Okay, go on.

ANTHONY

So there's my three. I have two left. I think that I would invite Jimmy Fallon as well.

NALEE

Wow.

ANTHONY

I'm gonna steal him from you because I feel like he would add entertainment.

NALEE

For sure. For sure.

ANTHONY

And then of course I have to. I'll provide the knives, but I'm gonna invite Britney.

NALEE

Love it. I was like, if you don't say Britney, bitch, I'm done.

ANTHONY

It's Britney, bitch.

NALEE

Yeah, exactly.

ANTHONY

She'll provide entertainment. We'll have Jimmy singing, and she'll be dancing with knives.

NALEE

Yeah. That's fucking dead. I totally forgot about our knife videos. That's why I kept, I was like, what the fuck does knives have to do with this? But valid.

ANTHONY

Valid. Yeah. And if I didn't bring Travis, I would fill in with somebody else. Who would I do? Low key, I want to bring Kim Kardashian.

NALEE

Just Oh my god. Okay, okay, okay.

ANTHONY

Just to like get the daggers between her and Taylor going.

NALEE

In Travis.

ANTHONY

I would obviously be Dean Taylor, but Okay.

NALEE

Funny you say that. Yeah, I would say maybe either Chloe or Kim. So of the like of the Kardashian name, I would say one of the two. Yeah. But I feel like I would get along more with Kim, so probably Kim.

ANTHONY

You think you'd get along with Kim more?

NALEE

I think so, yeah.

ANTHONY

Really?

NALEE

Why? Why is that such a shock to you?

ANTHONY

I don't know. That I don't know. That really does surprise me.

NALEE

Who do you think I would get along with?

ANTHONY

I feel like you would get along with Chloe more. I think I feel I would get along with Chloe more.

NALEE

I don't like Chloe, but I feel like just how Kim is, I think I would probably get along with Kim.

ANTHONY

How is she?

NALEE

I don't know if she's stupid like me. Duh. I feel like Chloe would be too critical of me. She would be like, bitch, get your shit together. And I'm like, I don't want to, though.

ANTHONY

I'm your Chloe.

NALEE

Yeah, literally.

ANTHONY

It's me. Literally telling you, get your shit together, get your life together.

NALEE

Kim would feed into my delusion. We'd have fun.

ANTHONY

You're probably right. Okay, now it's all coming to light. You would you two are like two peas in a pod. You're both potsters. You're instigators.

NALEE

Yep. Period.

ANTHONY

Now it makes sense. I could see that now. Okay.

NALEE

So there's my list.

ANTHONY

See you're Kim. I'm Chloe. Yeah, I would get along with Chloe. Okay.

NALEE

My boo Henry Cavill, Miss.

ANTHONY

For sexual reasons, obviously.

NALEE

Yeah. Duh. And for entertainment, you know. And I could have him set dressed up as Santa. Mm-hmm. See, then I could be.

ANTHONY

Shirtless Santa.

NALEE

You're right. I could be Mrs. Claus.

ANTHONY

My God.

NALEE

And then he could shake something else with a phobo of uh with a with some I don't know.

ANTHONY

My God.

NALEE

You know, you know.

ANTHONY

You're gonna be bending over to put some fresh cookies into the oven.

Who’s Banned From Hosting Christmas

NALEE

Face down ass up, baby. That's a Melissa Claudia. And then I said Michelle and then Mel Robbins. I'd be like, Mel, you need to give me a life lesson, and then I'm gonna turn it right back up at 12 o'clock and be like, I'm about to make the best decision of my life. I'm about to turn my life around with Henry Campbell under the tree.

ANTHONY

My God.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Wow.

NALEE

All right.

ANTHONY

Okay. Well, lucky for us, we're actually never going to get invited anywhere, and nobody will probably come to our party, so Okay.

NALEE

It's it was all worth it. We're just gonna sti like stew with that for a little bit. Yeah. It's fun.

ANTHONY

Yeah. It's fun to think about these things.

NALEE

That's true. That's true. All right. Well, our last segment here is Christmas hot takes.

ANTHONY

Ooh, yes. Time for opinions. You know how I love to give mine.

NALEE

Yes. And low-key consequences. Okay. So for this one, what are your opinions on wrapping gifts? Like when people say wrapping gifts is relaxing. Do you agree with that or no?

ANTHONY

I do agree with that in the sense that, no, let me rephrase that. I do agree with that when the package or gift is easily wrappable.

NALEE

Okay.

ANTHONY

Meaning like, you know, sometimes you'll get those presents for kids that are like It's like a teddy baby or something and you have to wonder how you're well.

NALEE

Oh, yeah. Like there's a big box.

ANTHONY

So how the fuck do you wrap it? Yeah. So like if it comes in a perfectly square box that I can wrap or a round cylinder that I can easily wrap, I do think that wrapping can be relaxing.

NALEE

Okay.

ANTHONY

I could see that.

NALEE

I'm kind of the opposite. I kind of like wrapping weird things.

ANTHONY

Oh, really?

NALEE

Yeah, I feel like that's fun because you have to kind of figure out like the logistics of it, but that's just me.

ANTHONY

Did you watch the newest shit?

NALEE

I did not.

ANTHONY

It's funny because he likes somebody gifts a golf club and it's wrapped.

NALEE

Mm-hmm.

ANTHONY

And it's like, you wrap a golf club, you can tell it's a fucking golf club, right? He made the joke of something like, what it I can't wait to find out what it is. He's like, all right, bro.

NALEE

But the thing is about me, you know that I will be a troll. So if it's like a teddy bear, I'd put it in like five different boxes. If it's like a mug, yeah, I'm uh I'm gonna put it in something that you can't even tell what it is.

ANTHONY

That's fair. Yeah. I like that. I think that's fun. That can be fun.

NALEE

Is because I like to fuck with people's brains. Yeah.

ANTHONY

Kind of like me that year that you individually wrapped all those fucking peppermint barks and then taped them together. And you know what?

NALEE

It was I was trying to give you the gift of opening presents because I didn't know how many presents you're gonna have. So each time you opened a candy, so technically technically, if you think about it, I was gifting you the opportunity to open multiple gifts. You're welcome.

ANTHONY

Let me tell you, listeners, it was literally so bad. I was at one point, I was like, this fucking thing isn't even worth it.

NALEE

You're like, I'm not gonna.

ANTHONY

If anything, if anything's Nolly is doing me a favor by saving me on calories because I won't be able to eat this fucking shit. Like each one was wrapped, and I'm not kidding you. After she taped them all together, it was like for the most part, each one was like wrapped in like packing tape.

NALEE

Yeah, no, I I did that.

ANTHONY

I needed scissors to get into that.

NALEE

Yeah, I did that intentionally. I'm like fucking bitch. In my head, I'm like, I wonder what his thoughts are when he opens this. And I was like, I'm just gonna tape it all. Like it's not even wrapping anymore, it's just taping.

ANTHONY

Pettiness.

NALEE

Yeah, I'm trying to because the thing, if you think about it, how rewarding is it to finally open it and get to eat it? How rewarding is that?

ANTHONY

Well, I don't know. I had to get to that point first. I didn't get to that point very often on those. Did I send you there? Was on TikTok, it was a gift box.

NALEE

With the little fucker.

ANTHONY

Yes.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

I want to get I wanted to get that for everybody for Christmas. Because you have to it's it's this gift box, and you have to like take a mini screwdriver and like unscrew it, and then inside it's a different box, and then you have to like it's all these different techniques to like unscrew things and get into the next box. And then you get to the bottom, the end box, and you take it off and it opens up and it's just a like a bobbing middle finger.

NALEE

Yeah. And I'm sorry if that was a disclaimer, if like the middle finger is triggering to you guys. It was just, yeah.

ANTHONY

I'm not sorry. If you don't know by now, but you think I have the mouth of a sailor, but I'm not gonna throw out a middle finger?

NALEE

I was just saying, this is our first live recording. We have to ease him into it. Hello.

ANTHONY

I ain't easing nobody into shit. At this point, I'm balls deep. Y'all motherfuckers better enjoy.

NALEE

Okay. All right. Here's the second one. Are socks elite gifts?

ANTHONY

Fuck no. Let me tell you something. The only person on the planet that enjoys getting socks is a 12-year-old boy.

NALEE

You think so?

ANTHONY

Yep.

NALEE

I like socks. I like the fuzzy socks.

ANTHONY

No, you're full of shit.

NALEE

I've been so into that recently for some reason. Like, I think it's because my house is kind of cold, but I've been so into fuzzy socks. I literally went to TJ to buy like two packs of fuzzy socks last week.

ANTHONY

Okay, but as gifts? Yeah. That's what you want to get as a gift.

NALEE

Yeah, that's fine with me.

ANTHONY

Fuck that. I would ra I would rather go to TJ Maxx and buy my own fuzzy socks than get socks as a gift for Christmas.

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NALEE

Well, nobody's fucking ungrateful.

ANTHONY

I'm just saying.

NALEE

Okay. I know what to get you this year now. Thank you.

ANTHONY

Don't fucking get me socks.

NALEE

We'll see. I could give you the gift of having socks.

ANTHONY

I don't no, thank you. That's a gift I will re-gift.

NALEE

Alright, that's fine with me. Alright. We've already kind of talked about this one, but what about Christmas music before December? Is that okay? So we're talking about Thanksgiving timeline.

ANTHONY

I think that Christmas bef Christmas music before December is fine, but it has to be after Thanksgiving. Now, I think that like for maybe like the first week leading up to Thanksgiving, I think intermittent Christmas songs are okay on the radio. Like maybe play a Christmas song, and then the next 12 songs are regular music before you play another Christmas song.

NALEE

Okay, that's interesting.

ANTHONY

But like the day after Halloween, and I'm fucking hearing Christmas song after Christmas song after Christmas song after Christmas song, no ma'am.

NALEE

Interesting.

ANTHONY

Yeah.

NALEE

For me, I do agree though.

ANTHONY

I think Okay, hold on. We got a timeout. Okay, where were we?

NALEE

Alright, so uh we were talking about socks as gifts.

ANTHONY

Nope.

NALEE

Wait, we were talking about Christmas music before December.

ANTHONY

Christmas music before December.

NALEE

Right. And we've already gone over that. So our next and last question is does eggnog deserve to be respected? Yeah. I'm gonna be honest with you, and you could judge me. I've never tried eggnog before.

ANTHONY

I'm not gonna judge you because I had only tried eggnog within the last five years.

NALEE

Is it just like raw eggs?

ANTHONY

I don't know how they make it, to be honest with you. I think there's alcohol in it.

NALEE

Interesting.

ANTHONY

You should buy some and try it. They probably still have some at the grocery stores.

NALEE

Nah, it sounds nasty to me.

ANTHONY

Do you like milk?

NALEE

Bitch, I'm lactose.

ANTHONY

Oh, that's right. Yeah, you're lactose. Why would you drink eggnog?

NALEE

Yeah. I didn't know they added milk into it though, because I still eat eggs.

ANTHONY

Well, it's dairy.

NALEE

I don't know. I wouldn't if I had the chance to try it, I'd try it though. I wouldn't say no. You know, I like Alfredo, so why can't I just sacrifice it for one?

ANTHONY

That's true. That's true. And the problem with eggnog, though, is that everybody makes it a different way. And so you have to get like there's good eggnog and there's bad eggnog.

NALEE

Interesting. And so just So is homemade better than like the carton eggnog?

ANTHONY

Yeah, 100%.

NALEE

Oh god. Why is eggnog such a weird word?

ANTHONY

I don't know. That's a good question.

NALEE

Who came up and said, oh, this is eggnog? That's such a weird word.

ANTHONY

Okay, we're not even gonna tangent on that because I think about that about anything. Oh, really? Who decided that this is pink? Just random thoughts that I will have in my head.

NALEE

Interesting.

ANTHONY

But the most important key for eggnog is you have to have the right amount of alcohol in there. There has to be alcohol in it.

NALEE

Okay. Interesting.

ANTHONY

Non-alcoholic buy.

NALEE

Alright, well, I hate how visible my judgment is because it is what it is.

unknown

Alright.

NALEE

I love it.

ANTHONY

I love our judgment. We say it's a judgment-free zone, but.

NALEE

That's all we do is judge.

ANTHONY

Yeah.

NALEE

Okay. Well, I said that was my last segment, but got a little surprise for you. It's been a hot minute. Anali's hypothetical hotline before we close this chapter.

ANTHONY

It has been a hot minute since you've done it.

NALEE

It has been a hot minute. So this is a very unstable Christmas. Hello, and thank you for calling the Christmas Crisis Hotline, or should I say Anali's hypothetical hotline, where the eggnog is spiked, the group chat is muted, and someone is absolutely about to cry in the bathroom. Press one if your partner is ruining Christmas. Press two if your family is ruining Christmas, or press three if it's definitely both. What did you press? Three?

ANTHONY

All of them. All of the above.

NALEE

So this is a scenario I'm gonna set the stage up for you guys. It's Christmas Eve, you're at your parents' house, and your girlfriend has already announced twice that the vibes are off. She didn't like the way your mom said hello because she thinks it felt cold. She thinks your dad's Christmas list is too aggressive, and she's convinced your sister has been side-eyeing her since she walked in. Your sister, loud, sarcastic, and fully in her element, makes a joke while opening a bottle of wine. Careful, this is a good stuff. We don't just give it to anyone. Your girlfriend freezes, she whispers to you that your sister is marking territory and trying to embarrass her. Before you can respond, your girlfriend loyally asks your sister, why is she being weirdly hostile for no reason? The room goes silent and your sister laughs and says, Girl, it's Christmas. Relax. Well, that was clearly the wrong answer. Your girlfriend immediately starts crying and says she's being ganged up on. She brings up the brings up Thanksgiving. She brings up a comment your sister made two years ago. She says your family has never accepted her. And your sister claps back and says, I don't even know why you make everything about you. It's not a personal attack with you. Not everything is about you. Your mom is pretending to rearrange ornaments that do not need rearranging. Your dad suddenly needs to go check on the grill, and a cousin records a video just in case. Your sister said she refuses to apologize to someone who wants a Hallmark movie and can't handle real people. Your parents are begging everyone to, hey, let's just eat. It's fine. Now, the question is, do you publicly side with your girlfriend and call up your sister, even if you think she's being dramatic? Or do you tell your girlfriend she's overreacting and risk her saying Christmas is now traumatizing? Oof, that was messy.

ANTHONY

That is really messy. Am I hearing all the things that my family is saying? Am I catching wind of any of these tones?

NALEE

No, so this is just your friend being oversensitive. And it's not about cheating or it's not about relationship-wise.

Wrapping Gifts, Socks, And Eggnog Truths

ANTHONY

It is not. I'm inclined to side with her only from a standpoint of clearly she's been in my life for multiple years, because you said it w she brought something up from two years ago. So I obviously have some sort of connection with her. So I would be inclined to side with her if we've been together that long. I definitely and I think anybody is not your partner or anything.

NALEE

This is your friend. This is your girlfriend.

ANTHONY

Like girlfriend as in like a I was oh, I was interpreting it like boyfriend, girlfriend.

NALEE

Oh yeah.

ANTHONY

Okay.

NALEE

Well, I guess you could let's let's stick with that. I actually do like that.

ANTHONY

Because I do have to talk about regardless, it wouldn't make a difference. Because I feel like I would know my family well enough to know to pick up on any s any signals if they're giving any cold shoulders or anything like that. I think anybody who's in a relationship, even if it's friendship, depending on how close that you know friendship is, the last thing that you ever want to do is tell somebody that they're overreacting.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Because that is the biggest insult and slap in the face, I think.

NALEE

Because you still have to acknowledge their feelings, you know what I mean? Right.

ANTHONY

Yeah, I don't yeah.

NALEE

This scenario, what would you do? Would you side with her or how would you side I would side with her. Interesting.

ANTHONY

Would you not?

NALEE

I would have to reassess the scenario because it's like what you said, like if this was for me, you guys already know. I'd like to I'd I'd like to be the middleman. So I wouldn't necessarily side with anybody. I wouldn't side with her or my family.

ANTHONY

Oh, I didn't know that was an option.

NALEE

I don't know.

ANTHONY

I shouldn't have said that. No, that's a I mean that's a really good option.

NALEE

Yeah. I would just say, hey, like, let's just kind of feel it out. Like, um, I wouldn't tell her that she's being dramatic, but I would just say, hey, let's just get through this. Yeah, like I'm sorry feeling that way, but you know, I'll talk to my sister and let her know to lay the fuck off, kind of a thing. You know what I mean? Yeah. Okay. So I have some follow-up questions. Was that your answer then? Are you good with that answer? That you would say with your friend or your partner. Yes. All right. So if this is a case, then who actually owes an apology? And to who?

ANTHONY

I would say my family owes the apology. Now, I'm not my dad. Okay, so his playlist is too aggressive. People have different tastes in music. It is what it is. But like my sister and my mom.

NALEE

Okay. So you would have them apologize?

ANTHONY

I would expect them to apologize. I'm obviously not going to force them to do anything that they don't want to do or that they don't believe in because I don't want a fake ass apology.

NALEE

Okay.

ANTHONY

But yeah, I would definitely expect them to. And I would lay that, I would lay that out there. Like, I expect you to do this. I'm not, I'm not going to make you do it, but I want you to think about what you've done, how what you've said, how you've said it, and the real come to the realization of your tone. And it's one of those things that may not be what you said, but how you said it, and you need to take full accountability for it.

NALEE

Interesting. You for me, I would uh sit everybody down and be like, okay, how are you feeling about the situation? What are your responses? And get everybody's reaction together at the same time instead of like talking to my siblings after the fact or talking to my partner after the fact. Like if it's happening, I'd be like, okay, this is how she feels. Is this what you're doing? And if that's the case, then let's just say if my sister, she was as drunk and she didn't mean to sound sarcastic. She could say, I don't know, I'm I I'm I'm having a good time. I have nothing, I don't have anything against her. So that my partner or my friend could see that, oh, maybe she was just like, I don't know, overstimulated by everything. You know what I mean? To kind of I it could blow up. It could blow up. And I'm not trying to instigate the situation, but it's just it's just kind of like let's just lay it down, let's just see how everybody feels about it. And then if it gets too heated, then I would be like, okay, you know what? Since we can't talk this out, let's just, let's just leave or let's just talk about it another time. You know what I mean?

ANTHONY

Yeah, like don't don't ruin the evening.

NALEE

Yeah, yeah.

ANTHONY

Like, why are you gonna do that, especially if it's a holiday? But I just want to say, like, as far as what the sister commented on, like, that's a pretty rude, straightforward. We don't just give this to anybody. Like, there's no dancing around that statement.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Like that's not even that's not even a joke. In my opinion.

NALEE

But what if your sister was that's just who she is? You know what I mean? You've and this is not me getting giving an excuse. I'm just thinking like of like the scenario.

ANTHONY

Devil's advocate.

NALEE

Let's just say if your sister is just that's just who she's known to be like. Like she's had, you know, again, two years ago, she said something stupid like that. Like that's just who she is. I guess it doesn't I guess you shouldn't enable that because that's just who she is or whatever. And that's not an excuse, but yeah, I guess that could be kind of like that's kind of a bitchy like comment. Like if somebody said that to me, I'd be like, what the fuck is your problem?

ANTHONY

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, it's just it's a tacky comment to make.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Like nobody talks like that.

NALEE

Is that did you add is that a new word to your dictionary?

ANTHONY

Tacky? No.

NALEE

Oh, okay.

ANTHONY

I'm confused.

NALEE

Well you said tacky earlier, and now you're saying tacky again, and you don't normally say tacky.

ANTHONY

Maybe that was the word on my my word of the day or something. I don't know.

NALEE

Yeah, on your toilet paper?

ANTHONY

Yeah.

NALEE

Okay. So you so you in this term or in this scenario, you think that the s your sister and your mom should apologize to your friend or your partner. Yeah. Yes. 100%. And you don't? I would point out the comment. I would be like, it's fucked up for you to say that, like, she didn't do anything to you. But then again, if I know that my sister's just a bitch like that, I would be like, just ignore her. She's a bitch. You're not ignoring it.

ANTHONY

Well that's right. And that's the other thing is like if you've been in my life for so long, like how do you not know Exactly?

NALEE

That's what I'm saying.

ANTHONY

I guess maybe if you're not spending that much time with my family.

Hypothetical Hotline: Family Vs Partner Showdown

NALEE

Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Is that like it could go both ways. Like, if you've already noticed her commenting two years ago, why the fuck did you bring it up then? Right. Why are you holding on to it? You know what I mean? Yeah. So at the same time, it's just kind of like, well, we could we could we could think about it two ways. Either one, unfortunately, yeah, maybe you are being a little bit sensitive, but two, like, message is just a bitch. Like, ignore her. That's Nali. Like, Nali's a bitch. It's fine.

ANTHONY

You are a bitch.

NALEE

I am a bitch.

ANTHONY

But RBF gives it away.

NALEE

Yeah. All right. So another follow-up question. Is crying during a fight a manipulation tactic? Or do you think it's like an emotion a genuine emotional response?

ANTHONY

I think it depends on the person, the setting, and the situation.

NALEE

Well, we got the person setting a situation here. Like in this case, let's say So who's who's my girlfriend?

ANTHONY

You?

NALEE

Yeah, sure.

ANTHONY

In this situation. So if it's you in this situation and this happened, and you started crying, that's fake as hell.

NALEE

Bitch.

ANTHONY

You're not gonna cry over that. You're not the type of person to cry over spilt milk. So if you start crying, I know that it's bullshit. Yeah.

NALEE

It's manipulative.

ANTHONY

That's why I'm saying it matters. Like watching selling the OC and that bitch who was crying at that dinner and she was pregnant. That was fake.

NALEE

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Emma or not Emma.

ANTHONY

Ashton. Asher. Ashton?

NALEE

Ashton.

ANTHONY

Yeah.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

All of her crying scenes were fake as hell.

NALEE

Yeah. What are your thoughts on her? Just side tag.

ANTHONY

Out of my life. I don't want her in my life. Yeah. I don't fuck with her.

NALEE

Yeah. Okay. So What about you?

ANTHONY

Do you think it's Yeah.

NALEE

Me, it definitely depends on the person. Like if if it's somebody who I know that is like like for example, like if it's Mila, like my sister, Mila, and I went to a friend's party and somebody said that, I know that bitch is crying. Or she's fucking pissed. Like she Yeah. But let's say if it's me, yeah, I'm gonna be like, okay, and Yeah. Yeah.

ANTHONY

That's what I'm saying. It depends on the person.

NALEE

Like Yeah. Okay. Now, last question here.

ANTHONY

Okay.

NALEE

If it happens every holiday, is it a red flag, or do you think it's just a seasonal chaos?

ANTHONY

The same situation, like as far as like people being cold to her.

NALEE

Like if she like every time she's around your family or your partner or your friend, she's around your family, and she's always like, Oh, they're giving me like the ick, or they're doing this, or they're doing that, and this happens every time, or you know, every holiday t season that you guys spend together. Is this a red flag for you, or are you are you more just like, ah, that's just how she is?

ANTHONY

I think at this point it's Just seasonal chaos. I think it must be my family trying to make a new tradition or something. But I'm not I'm not gonna say that it's a red flag because and if it if it was a red flag, you keep coming back.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Like if the red flags bother you that much and you know, hey, Christmas, I gotta go to Christmas dinner, and I know that this is gonna happen. It's been happening for the last five years.

NALEE

Don't come.

ANTHONY

Bitch, there's the door, nobody's keeping you here.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Yeah.

NALEE

For me, I think it's a red flag. I think it's a red flag.

ANTHONY

For the family.

NALEE

The situation is a red flag. In general. Because one, like if my friend generally doesn't like my family or my partner, you need to fucking voice that. And two, if my family's being a bitch to her, you guys need to let me know. Because if that's the case, I won't bring her around.

ANTHONY

Right.

NALEE

I'm not gonna put myself in that situation. You know what I mean?

ANTHONY

And that's what I'm saying. Like, I I guess I don't find it a red flag if you keep putting yourself in that situation multiple times. Like if you already know what's gonna happen.

NALEE

Yeah.

Festive Closing And Thanks

ANTHONY

And you're not saying anything and you keep putting yourself in that situation. Sorry and shit.

NALEE

Sorry and shit.

ANTHONY

Base on you. Face out. Deuces.

NALEE

Alright. Well, that comes to con the conclusion of our Christmas episode. And you see us now. So Yeah.

ANTHONY

You watched us slowly unravel. You saw the wheels turning. Well, it may not have been the most festive Christmas episode, but it's us and it was fun.

NALEE

Yeah. This was again our Christmas episode. We just want to switch things up a little bit. We are still learning. It's only been six months. It's been an amazing journey. Yeah. This is our face reveal and our descent into chaos. And I hope you guys kind of enjoyed it a little bit. Um, I know it's not our typical off tangent, and I we kind of wanted to switch it up, but yeah.

ANTHONY

Be a little bit more low-key for Christmas.

NALEE

Yeah. Yeah. Y'all, it's been a rough year. We've been saying that year time and time again.

ANTHONY

So it's almost over. You won't have to hear us say that anymore.

NALEE

Yes. Hopefully. We're manifesting positively. Yeah.

ANTHONY

But thank you guys for listening. Thank you for watching and spending the holidays with us. Merry Christmas. This has been twin tangents. That's bad.

NALEE

Yeah.

ANTHONY

Bye.