🎙️Nalee's Hypothetical Hotline - Episode 10 - The Happiness Transfer (AUDIO ONLY)🎙️

This week on Nalee’s Hypothetical Hotline 📞, we’re asking a question that sounds beautiful at first… until you really think about it:

If you had the power to transfer happiness from one person to another—would you do it?
 And more importantly… should you?

This episode dives into the ethics of “fixing” someone’s life without their consent, the emotional weight of self-sacrifice, and the complicated line between helping someone and controlling their fate. Because sometimes what looks like kindness can quietly become manipulation.

Would you take pain away from someone you love if it meant carrying it yourself?
 Does suffering shape who we become?
 And is it still generosity if the other person never got a choice?

We unpack the fantasy of saving people, the pressure to martyr yourself for others, and the uncomfortable truth that happiness isn’t always transferable—sometimes it’s personal, messy, and deeply tied to identity.

Because changing someone’s life for the better sounds noble… until you realize you may also be changing who they are.

Takeaways we spiral over:

•  ⚖️ Good intentions don’t automatically make something ethical 
•  🧠 Helping someone and controlling them are not always far apart 
•  💔 Self-sacrifice can become emotionally dangerous 
•  🌱 Pain, struggle, and growth are often connected 
•  ✨ Happiness means different things to different people 

It’s emotional. It’s philosophical. And it’s the kind of hypothetical that leaves you questioning what “doing the right thing” even means.

Welcome back to the Hotline 📞—where the moral dilemmas get deeper… and the hypotheticals start feeling a little too real.

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Transcript

Cold Open And Unfiltered Banter

NALEE 0:00

SMR SMR ice cooling for a little bit. Okay, now I'm just making noises. That sounds so gross.

ANTHONY 0:15

That's what it sounds like when your pussy's getting eaten.

NALEE 0:18

Oh my fucking god. I fucking I fucking yeah with you. And actually, no, it does not sound like that. Anyway.

ANTHONY 0:25

I'm sorry, is it more like this? That sounds like you thought about it.

NALEE 0:32

That sounds really gross, but kind of a little bit.

ANTHONY 0:35

Oh my god.

NALEE 0:47

Anyway. All right, well, um, ring, ring, ring. Welcome to Nellie's hypothetical hotline. Um uh pew pew. And um what's good? Anyways, um, today's episode is called the happiness transfer. Um, so just to get you guys started on the scenario here, you're presented with a clear and structured offer. Your future life path, every major positive outcome

The Happiness Transfer Hypothetical

NALEE 1:20

you've likely to experience can be reassigned to someone else. In exchange, you inherit their projected struggles. It's not random. You're shown data, possibilities, projections, how things are likely to unfold. Your future trends upward, stable relationships, career growth, moments of real fulfillment. Theirs doesn't. It's not hopeless, but it's harder. More loss, more instability, fewer breaks. You can choose anyone, and immediately you think of someone close to you who's always had it a little worse. Someone who keeps trying but never quite catches a break. You ask what happens if they don't want this. The answer, they won't know. Their life will simply improve. They'll believe it happened naturally. Now, the gut punch moment is you're shown a projection where they live a genuinely happy life, one they would have never otherwise have because of your choice. So, my question or the central question of the scenario is is it ethical to change someone's life for the better without their consent? But then again, but then again, you have to also keep in mind though that um what is it?

ANTHONY 2:36

Uh I would absorb all of their Yes.

NALEE 2:40

Yes. So you would get pretty much, you're reassigned to whatever they get. So their projected struggles is all yours. But then you get to um pretty much gift your happiness to somebody else. Now, would you do that? And again, is it ethical to change someone's life for the better without their consent? You like this one?

ANTHONY 2:59

I do like this one. This one is really making me think. Mm-mm-mm. And I'm struggling with this one because I don't, I don't necessarily know that it's unethical to change somebody's life for the better. What the fuck? Were you watching Wicked?

SPEAKER_01 3:15

Because I knew you.

ANTHONY 3:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 3:18

Because I knew you.

ANTHONY 3:20

Sing it, Alphaba. Take us home.

SPEAKER_01 3:22

I have been changed. For good.

ANTHONY 3:26

For good. Um, yeah, so that's the part that I'm struggling with is I don't know that it would be unethical, right? That was the question. If it would be, or is it ethical to change someone's life for the better? I don't think that it's unethical to change the bigger.

NALEE 3:40

But that's without their consent.

ANTHONY 3:41

Yeah, but you're changing their life for the better. Like, is it really it's not that's not a bad thing, you know? It's like, that's like asking me, is it ethical to pay for the guy and lying behind me at McDonald's food? Because it changes changes their life, it changes their day for the better. They just saved 15 bucks on their meal. You know what I mean?

NALEE 3:59

I mean, it's not Well, what if he told his wife that, oh, I got McDonald's, it's 15 bucks,

Is Consent Required For Good

NALEE 4:05

and then he gets it paid for, and then his he goes home, and then his wife is like, You said that you went to McDonald's, how come you didn't use your money? And then he's like, Well, somebody else paid it for me, and then she doesn't believe him. They end up divorced. What do you do then?

ANTHONY 4:17

Okay, well, if that bitch divorces him because somebody paid for his $15 McDonald's, good fucking riddles. The fuck out, bitch.

NALEE 4:24

Stupid bitch.

ANTHONY 4:26

I just saved us $15, and you bitching? That's $15 for your ass to sit on the couch and get bonbons. Um Yeah. Is it ethical to change someone's Man?

NALEE 4:38

It's taking you a hot minute to answer this, isn't it?

ANTHONY 4:41

Well, what's your answer? Like, I don't think that it's ethical, but I don't think that it's unethical. I think it is the word ethical and bringing ethics into this scenario is where I'm struggling.

NALEE 4:52

I feel like it is. I feel like it is ethical. Because the thing is, it's for better. It's for the better. Like it's better for them. You know what I mean? Even if they don't consent to it. It's just like, it's just like those people who give donations out to people who don't even fucking know about it. You know what I mean?

ANTHONY 5:07

It's like Yeah, that's true. When you look at it, okay.

NALEE 5:10

I'm gonna give you, I'm gonna give you a check for $10,000 without you even knowing it.

ANTHONY 5:15

Right. And like an angel dimension or angel investor, whatever they're called.

NALEE 5:20

Right. So you're gonna tell me you ain't gonna take it because it's unethical? Like, shut the fuck up. I'd be like, give me more.

ANTHONY 5:27

Give me more can't be selfish about it. The greed is where you get into trouble, my friend. Can't help it. Um okay, well, thank you for pointing that out. I after hearing that, I would say, okay, it is ethical to change someone's life for the better without their consent.

NALEE 5:44

Yeah, I'm in agreement with that.

ANTHONY 5:46

But on the flip side, at the same time, like, I'm trying to think of how to say this. Like, you're abs like you're absorbing all of the negative and all of the bad that would happen to them. Yeah. You're making their life easier. It's one of those things where it's like, you're not gonna grow. You need to, you need those experiences to learn and to grow from them. And it's those experiences that how you handle them and how you learn and grow from them is how like

Do Struggles Create Growth

ANTHONY 6:15

how you develop as a person. So if you don't have those experiences and it's just easy for you, it's not fair to that, to that person.

NALEE 6:26

I Irish laughing. So in turn, what you're saying to me, in turn, what you're saying to me is you're in regret of giving this person happiness because what about you?

ANTHONY 6:37

I no, no, no, I'm talking about them. So if if if your life is just shitty and it's just this happens, it's thing after thing after thing, negative after negative after negative, and I have the opportunity to take all of that away from you and make things easier for you. How are you growing as an individual? Like those negative things that are happening to happening to you in life are life moments, monumental moments and experiences that instead of looking at it as God, I lost my job, God, my husband left me, God, this happened, this happened, this happened. You need to use those experiences to grow from them and to become a better person and to better your own life. And if I'm just handing you the world on a silver platter, you're not growing. You're not learning.

NALEE 7:26

The matter at hand is that you're making their life simple. I don't know. If it was me, I'd be like, eh, nah.

ANTHONY 7:33

I'm all for like this. Is one of those hard things where it's like, yes, I would love to help make your life simpler, but at the same time, those are experiences that develop you as a person and that you grow from them. Like when you go through hard times, okay, let's just take this for an example. So you're down on your luck, you're working minimum wage job, you get fired, you're not making any money, you're not making, you're barely making ends meet, you're living paycheck to paycheck. That is developing you as a person. So if and when the time comes that the universe says, you know what? I'm gonna bless Nollie with this job that has a $200,000 a year salary. She's gonna own this 14-bedroom mansion in California, and she's gonna have this amazing job and this amazing car and this amazing husband. And the universe has now offered this to you, and now you have all of this. That's your opportunity as a person to look back and be like, I really struggled, but I persevered. I was resilient. Everything that I have, I earned. And so maybe now when you're in your 50s, your 60s, and let's say you you know, you do nails, let's say your your nails became this big nail tech company and you're the CEO of it. Now you can you have employees working under you who might be struggling with that same same situation that you were there and you can relate to it and you can impart some wisdom on them. Like, okay, maybe now is not, it's just not your time, but it's gonna happen. It's one of those things that you just have to learn and you grow from. And that's where I'm coming at it from. Like, if it's if it's as simple as just being like, boom, your life is perfect, I'll absorb all of you the negativity that you were meant to. It's great in theory, but what is that person whose life is all of a that's all of a sudden magically great and perfect? What are they learning? How are they learning to be resilient? How are they learning to persevere? How are they learning to get through life? It's and it's just it's just like those people that are born with a silver spoon in their mouth where they're like, Have you ever seen um Willa Wonka in the chocolate factory?

NALEE 9:55

Yes. Who hasn't? Yeah.

ANTHONY 9:57

I didn't oh I'm sorry, I didn't hear you. It it froze for a second. Um so it's like that Baruch Assault where she's always like, Daddy, I want this. Daddy, I want that, daddy, I want a golden egg, I want a golden goose. Like, you don't learn anything. You just think that you you're entitled. That there's a lot of people.

NALEE 10:15

I want to loop a loompa and I want it now.

ANTHONY 10:18

Yeah, exactly. Like you're entitled. These are things that like if you want something, work for it. Strive for it. It's like this pot, it's like this podcast. You know, I see things when I'm going on like Facebook and like in some of these groups, and people are like, you know, you can I can help you get 500,000 followers in the first six months, and it just for $49.95. Um, I'm not gonna pay for followers. I wanna earn that naturally.

NALEE 10:47

Yeah.

ANTHONY 10:47

I want to work for this. I want to be able to look back and be like, you know what? Me and Nolly started this podcast. We had your sister listening to us, we had Feth listening to us, but now fucking call her daddy who? Bitch, bye!

NALEE 11:02

Okay, okay. I see what you're I smell what you're stepping in. Okay.

ANTHONY 11:06

You tasting what I'm cooking. Yeah.

NALEE 11:08

You eat what you're eating what I'm serving. Yeah. Okay. I uh I do, I completely understand with, or I completely agree with all of the stuff that you said. But then again, I guess my question to you then is so are you saying that it's not ethical then? Are you saying that like because you're changing somebody's life without them learning their lessons that it's like not fair? Because that's the question at hand. I understand all of that.

ANTHONY 11:32

Right.

NALEE 11:33

I understand all of that. Yeah. Because you are right. You are right. If you don't go, if you people don't go through the struggles that they do and they never learn from it, it'll always be a non-ending cycle where again, you put yourself in a toxic situation or I don't know, but it's like it goes back in their circle all over again. But if you don't learn from that, then you don't learn how to change. You don't learn how to grow.

ANTHONY 11:59

Right. You don't challenge yourself. Um, but with so with regards to your question, is it ethical to change someone's life for the better without their consent? I guess I would be saying it's unethical for for for the verbiage of this question to change someone's life for the better. This is a really good one, Nolly. You got me stumped, and we all know how that's that's hard to do.

NALEE 12:23

We stumped the hoe today.

ANTHONY 12:24

Marky, mark it on the calendar. Um I feel like it's one of those things where you need to pick and choose and be specific. Like if like going back to my original example, if it's a matter of me like buying somebody a meal who's down on their luck, no, that's perfectly ethical. That's fine. But if it's a matter of me being able to change somebody's life so that they become a millionaire, I think that that would be unethical because they didn't earn, they didn't earn it, they didn't work for it. Like, how are you gonna be proud of that?

NALEE 12:58

Okay, I just want to put on the record though that if somebody wants to magically change my life, do it. It's not unethical for me. It's ethical for me. Do it. Y'all want to transfer a hundred million thousand dollars accidentally, unethically, into my account? You do you boo, you make my life change, you do that. Anthony, he said no, so you don't want that.

ANTHONY 13:21

Okay, so that's actually a really good like example. Let me ask you this if you woke up tomorrow and there was some sort of glitch in your bank account

Money Glitches And Moral Luck

ANTHONY 13:30

and you had 100 million dollars in your account, okay. You wouldn't say anything?

NALEE 13:36

No. There would be signs. So what would you do? There will be signs, but I ain't gonna say shit. I think I've learned as an adult that silence is power. And just because I, my life, I'm manifesting this. Just because somebody put a hundred million thousand dollars in my account doesn't mean that I'm gonna go and like share it with the world. Because you know why? When it comes down to money, people become very selfish. When it comes to money, people glue onto you that you don't even know.

ANTHONY 14:05

Well, 100%. I totally agree with that.

NALEE 14:07

So I'm saying, and I'm letting y'all, I'm letting everybody know. If Anthony and I win the lottery, I say shit. Okay?

ANTHONY 14:13

That's oh, same if we win the lottery, like I'm not gonna say anything.

NALEE 14:17

Yeah.

ANTHONY 14:18

But like you wouldn't go ahead.

NALEE 14:19

Nope, go ahead. That's it. That's all I was gonna say.

ANTHONY 14:21

Well, I was just gonna ask. So you wouldn't consider the ramifications of keeping that money? Maybe a hundred million thousand dollars was a lot, but okay, let's say fifty thousand dollars.

NALEE 14:31

That's a lot to me, regardless.

ANTHONY 14:33

You you wouldn't care if that was a bank error and a bank glitch, and you literally part of that fifty thousand dollars was um my grandma's social security check for her to live the rest of the month on, and now she has no money for the month, or that single mother who really needed to buy new school clothes for her child, and now that money was mistakenly taken out of her account and put into your account. You wouldn't care.

NALEE 15:04

My intrusive thoughts are coming through now. I would be I would be like I would be like horrible. I say told you guys I'm a horrible human being. I would be sad, of course. I'd be like, damn, that sucks.

ANTHONY 15:18

That sucks, but I got $50,000.

NALEE 15:20

Yeah. It's okay, it's the same thing. Okay, you want to put it that way. It's the same thing of if let's talk even smaller. You go out to the gas station and then you see a $200 bill on the floor. $200 on the floor.

ANTHONY 15:34

I was gonna say, a $200 bill don't exist, though.

NALEE 15:36

I know, I know, I know. That's sorry. I'm glad you caught it though. I'm very impressed. Excuse me. There's somebody dropped $200 and that was their rent money, but you don't know who who it was. And at this point, it's too late for you to return it. You're telling me that you're not gonna keep the $200. Okay, you're telling me that you're gonna go around and be like, hey, somebody dropped $200.

ANTHONY 15:57

No, that's completely different because that's in a public, that's in a public setting. There's literally no way to figure out who dropped that $200 unless they're a camera.

NALEE 16:06

This scenario is that they don't even know that you did that. They don't even know. And it just it just changed their life. So that's that's what I'm saying. Obviously, if if they knew, if I knew where that money came from, yes, okay, yes, I would feel bad. But I'm sticking to the scenario here. If yes, if it was your grandmother's social security mutt money, whatever, and a single struggling ma a mommy, Sally Sue over here needs to buy clothes for her daughter Polly Pocket, of course. I would be like, you know what? Actually, I didn't get 50 grand, but I got like 40. I could split that, you know. You guys give it back to you. 10,000 grand? I don't know where it went. We can find it together. But like if it's in that situation, of course, of course I would return it. But if it if it naturally came to my count, I'm gonna act dumb. I'm gonna be like, money where? Where?

ANTHONY 16:57

Moneywhere. I love that. Exactly. I love that.

NALEE 17:00

Like, of course, if I knew where it was coming from, the source, yes, I'd be like, again, y'all said 50,000, I only saw 40. I'll give the 40 back, you know? But like, if I didn't know where it was coming from, I'm sorry, Grandma Chi Chi, I'm sorry, Sally Sue, Billy Bob, it's mine. Polypocket, I'm keeping it. I'm sorry. My life is changing for the good, for the better, okay? But yes, back to what we're talking about. If I knew where it was coming from, yes, I would feel bad. So yeah. You're thinking too deep into this, boo.

ANTHONY 17:32

Well, because I'm not like, I'm not trying to be a bad person.

NALEE 17:35

I'm a bad person.

ANTHONY 17:36

You're not a bad person. You're a good person. You would do the right thing if it when push comes to shove.

NALEE 17:40

I wouldn't even save kids in a burning house.

ANTHONY 17:44

That's true. That's you are a bad person then.

NALEE 17:46

Mm-hmm. Don't come for me, um.

ANTHONY 17:48

So I think with regards to this scenario and this hypothetical, so you're presented with a positive with a clear, structured offer. If everything is clear and laid out.

NALEE 17:58

Man, you're really stumped by this one. Got him.

ANTHONY 18:03

Okay. I'm gonna change. I don't know if I'm not I don't even know what my answer is anymore. But okay, so I'm reading this.

NALEE 18:09

What is your new answer?

ANTHONY 18:10

So you're presented with a clear structured offer. Your future life path, every major positive outcome you're likely to experience. Likely to experience. I'm I'm like dissecting this. So you're likely, there's no guarantee, but I'm likely to

Selflessness Versus Self Preservation

ANTHONY 18:27

experience these um positive outcomes. All of them can be reassigned to someone else. You in exchange, I would inherit your projected struggles. Okay, I like to think that I wouldn't do this and that I would say no, but I'm too selfless of a person. You are because now I'm comparing this to things that I currently do, and I've I realized very recently that I tend to bury things that I want and give up things that I want in order to give others what they want or to make what others want a priority. So I don't think that I would be able to do this. I would like I wouldn't be able to not reassign them. I w I and with me being a cancer, I think that I would reassign them and inherit their their struggles.

NALEE 19:24

So again, is it ethical to change someone's life for the better without their consent?

ANTHONY 19:29

That word ethical is what's throwing me off and really confusing me.

NALEE 19:34

Um throw that out then. Is it okay to change someone's life for the better without their consent? There.

ANTHONY 19:40

Yes.

NALEE 19:40

Ta-da! We've come to a conclusion. Um, I believe so. I believe too that you would you would do this. I like like you said, I feel like you are a person who's willing to um chop off your own foot for somebody else. Like, and I love that. I think that's what makes you such an amazing person. Um I'm a Pisces. I would like to think that I would be like a cancer, but Pisces feels things really deeply. And if you cut your foot off, GG, it ain't me. Could be me. Could be me.

ANTHONY 20:16

You don't think so? I think I think that you would.

NALEE 20:20

No, I think that I would actually, to be honest.

ANTHONY 20:22

Yeah.

NALEE 20:23

Um, I don't know. Okay, you know what? I'm gonna be like completely, completely honest. I don't know. Because the thing is, I am a very selfish person. My thing is I would be like, okay, give me all the terms and conditions. How bad is my situation is gonna be? How poor am I gonna be? What am I gonna go through? Like, is it a life and death situation? Am I gonna be eating roaches?

ANTHONY 20:48

Am I gonna end up on the street doing meth and selling my booty hole in a motel six?

NALEE 20:54

Right. Am I gonna be sucking a tiny wiener? Like, what's going on? Like, give me the details, you know? Like, I need to know all the struggles. And if I could, if I could be like, you know what, I'll take one for the team, I'll sug a short dick, it's go it's okay, whatever. Okay, I'll do it. But if they're like, if they're the if they're like, nah, like you're gonna be going through the trenches, like you're gonna be eating roaches here, you're gonna be not even getting dick for years, then I'd be like, I may reconsider.

ANTHONY 21:25

I love how you say, like, I love how you say it like getting dick is a life necessity and you can't live without it.

NALEE 21:31

I can't put my dick. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm kidding.

ANTHONY 21:39

I'm just I'm just playing power as we started the episode talking about your pussy getting eaten.

NALEE 21:44

You that that was the noise. You can't blame me! You can't blame me, okay? Jesus.

ANTHONY 21:52

Not my pussy getting eaten.

NALEE 21:54

Goodness. Anyways, but uh all jokes aside, I think I would though. I think it'd be a really Really, really hard decision for me.

ANTHONY 22:01

Are you kidding me right now?

NALEE 22:03

Are you kidding me right now? I'm just kidding.

ANTHONY 22:06

I'm sorry.

NALEE 22:07

But I think it'd be a very hard decision for me just because um obviously it's like a selfless sacrifice and you're getting whatever is on the other side. I think it would take a lot to convince me, but I think like at the end of the day, gun to my head, I'd be like, fine, it's okay.

ANTHONY 22:26

Yeah.

NALEE 22:27

Yeah. Damn, this one was a tricky one. Holy shit.

ANTHONY 22:29

It is. Like when you really start thinking about it, and it's almost like, so I have two things that I want to compare it. Well, one thing that I want to compare it to and one question for you in return. So the first thing is it's it's almost like a Robin Hood thing, where it's like, are you are you stealing from the rich to give to the poor, or are you stealing from the poor to give to the rich? Because that really is a determining factor, right? Like, I'm not gonna take um Johnny Rose from Shits Creek, he lost all his money. I'm not gonna be like, oh yeah, I'll take that experience so that you can continue to live your lavish

Choosing Who Gets The Upgrade

ANTHONY 23:08

life of luxury with all your millions of dollars. Fuck no. Now, if it's little fucking Sally Sue out there and it means that she's gonna have more money for Polly Pocket to go to school and join the cheerleading squad and be in banned. Yeah, fine. That's one thing. Yeah. Um, which leads me into my question for you. Is that me or is that you?

SPEAKER_02 23:36

I can't tell.

NALEE 23:41

I'm pretty sure it's my it's I'm pretty sure it's the kids outside. These bitches be loud as hell.

ANTHONY 23:47

Open your window back. But try to record a podcast.

NALEE 23:51

They literally come up to my fucking window. But I can't fucking sleep on the weekends because these bitches be running around yelling and shit at fucking nine in the morning.

ANTHONY 24:00

Get a Molotov cocktail and just pfft.

NALEE 24:02

I know. No, I'm about to pour hot water on them.

ANTHONY 24:06

Oh, because you're up, you're up a level?

NALEE 24:08

Yeah.

ANTHONY 24:08

Yeah. Oh, nice. Do it.

NALEE 24:10

And then I'd go to jail for like assault or whatever. But it's hot water.

ANTHONY 24:14

Just be like, they needed a bath. I smelled them all the way up here. Um so my question to you is would making this decision be easier if you knew. Wait, does it say in here you know who the person is? Yeah, it says you can't. Well, it says you can choose anyone.

NALEE 24:30

Yes, yes, yeah.

ANTHONY 24:31

So would that make the decision easier for you if you got to choose the person?

NALEE 24:35

No.

ANTHONY 24:36

No?

NALEE 24:36

No.

ANTHONY 24:37

I think that I think it would make it so much more easier for me.

NALEE 24:40

For me, no, because again, I'm gonna say what I'm gonna say what everybody's thinking. I'm too selfish for that. Like, if I know you, yes, of course.

ANTHONY 24:49

Like, if if it wasn't it, that's why I'm saying if you get to choose, like if it was if it if it came down to between like your sister and yeah, if it's anybody in my family, I'd be like, okay, you know what?

NALEE 25:01

Yeah, do it. Like if it's Paulite, I'd be like, okay, you know what? This bitch done struggled enough. Okay, cool. I could probably lean on her too and be like, you know what? You know what happened to you last week? That's not me. Like, you know, give me half, you know.

ANTHONY 25:15

That's on me, boo.

NALEE 25:16

Manipulate the situation.

ANTHONY 25:18

But like, um like how you drive all the way to her house to be like, you want to go get something to eat?

NALEE 25:25

Exactly. Um, but yeah, if it's somebody I didn't know, I'd be like, you know, I'd I'd ask questions and stuff. But regardless, as much as I'd like to think that I am selfish at the same time, I would probably be like, yeah, it's fine. You know what I mean? Because if I know this person, I I see the struggles. I know what they've gone through. Now, if it's some if it's some random ass like crackhead whore, I don't know, at the corner who like spends money on drugs and shit, yeah, I'm fuck that. Like, GG, I'm not gonna do that.

ANTHONY 25:57

You know, I would consider doing that. Wait, would I have to do drugs then? Yes. Oh, fuck. You get what they get. Yeah, you know what I mean? Uh-uh.

NALEE 26:04

Yeah. But that's what I'm saying is that like, yeah, if because we get the opportunity to choose who it is, of course, yes. I would be like, yeah, you know what? I could take one for the team.

ANTHONY 26:15

Yeah.

NALEE 26:15

Yeah.

ANTHONY 26:16

I think being able to choose the person is gonna make the decision a lot easier because and that just that just goes to show that how much that we would do for those we love.

NALEE 26:27

Love, yeah, yeah. All right. I have uh maybe two talking points that we could go over. First one is is self-sacrifice still noble if it's invisible and irreversible?

ANTHONY 26:42

Yeah, I think it is because I don't think that it's self-sacrificing is noble regardless of who knows. It's a matter of whether or not you know.

NALEE 26:52

Exactly. Um and to add on to that, I think that's the main purpose of self-sacrifice,

Invisible Sacrifice And Fate Control

NALEE 27:00

is that it doesn't matter who knows about it or who sees it. You're sacrificing it because you're doing it.

ANTHONY 27:08

Right.

NALEE 27:08

Uh at your own like, you're not doing it to yeah.

ANTHONY 27:12

You're not doing it to impress anybody. You're not doing it to brag about it. You're you're literally doing it out of love.

SPEAKER_02 27:21

Yeah. That's what self-sacrifice is.

ANTHONY 27:26

I don't know what the hell that was, but you do you.

NALEE 27:29

That was like that was from the little meme from the ice age, those little thingies from Ice Age, and he goes, and then he walks away. There's like two of them. I don't know if you've seen that. I'll send it to you later, but that's what I thought of.

ANTHONY 27:42

The squirrels?

NALEE 27:43

Yeah. Maybe it wasn't Ice Age. It was from something, but I'll send it to you. That's it, that's what it reminds me of. Um, did you have anything else to add to that question?

ANTHONY 27:52

No.

NALEE 27:53

Okay. Last question here. Are you actually helping them or are you controlling their fate in this situation?

ANTHONY 27:59

Well, now I have to revisit.

NALEE 28:04

This crackhead whore can never get together.

ANTHONY 28:08

Okay, well, I okay, so I won't revisit the scenario, but the question is, are am I helping them or controlling their fate? I think that it's dependent. Yes, I am helping them. As far as controlling their fate, it's dependent upon what they what and how they choose to handle things going forward. And that was what I was gonna look up because I don't know, is it just a matter of me absorbing things and like one thing changing for them, or is it a matter of every is it a matter of one thing changing for them and then things just working out for them going forward? Or is it a matter of every single event in their life going forward being mapped out and changed for them?

NALEE 28:48

Yes, that's what that's how it is.

ANTHONY 28:50

Then that's controlling their fate.

NALEE 28:53

So what is your answer then?

ANTHONY 28:55

I would say that I'm controlling their fate.

NALEE 28:56

And you're not helping them?

ANTHONY 28:58

I'm the puppet master. Two things can be true. I am helping them, but I'm also controlling their fate. Because now I've done something to literally map out and change every single piece of their future. Now, if it's a matter of me just changing something that flips their luck from bad to good and one thing, and then it just it's kind of snowballs based on their decisions going forward, then that that would be solely just helping them and not controlling their fate. Because ultimately the their continued decisions and choices that they make is what is controlling their future and where they end up.

NALEE 29:37

Okay. Okay.

ANTHONY 29:38

If that makes sense.

NALEE 29:39

Yes, it does. It makes perfect sense. Because that was my answer. I was gonna say it's a little bit of both. Twinning. But yeah, I feel like it's a little bit of both because obviously, like what you said, you are helping them, you're making their life better because clearly they've been in the trenches, but at the same time, because you have a projection of how their life is gonna go, you are agreeing to see everything, every decision unfold.

ANTHONY 30:07

Yes.

NALEE 30:07

And that's clearly controlling. So and that's like exactly what I want to do. Like, I want to help somebody, but at the same time control them, you know?

unknown 30:16

Yeah.

ANTHONY 30:16

So what you're saying is you want a bitch.

NALEE 30:19

Yeah, pretty much.

ANTHONY 30:20

You speaking of which, you know what I can totally picture you doing? I can totally picture you being like one of those BDSM dominatrix, like why did I know you were gonna say that?

NALEE 30:29

Why did I know you were gonna say that? I'd be like, good boy.

ANTHONY 30:33

No, you don't want to compliment them. You want to do the whole purpose is to gr degrade them and own them.

NALEE 30:37

Oh, I didn't. Okay, then I can't because I would feel really bad. I'd be like, you stink, and then be like, Did you want to go shower?

ANTHONY 30:45

Maybe not that, but like I don't think I can.

NALEE 30:48

I'm like, I think we've discussed this. I'm more submissive than I am. Dom what is it?

ANTHONY 30:52

Dominant.

NALEE 30:53

Dominant when it comes to like stuff like that. I'd be like, how you want it, daddy? What position I'm going into, daddy? Let me uh that's his job, not mine. The fuck? Anyways. Great fruit. Ew. Anyways. So the conclusion to this host scenario is we've determined that it is unethical to change someone's life without them knowing. But it is okay to change someone's life for the better without them knowing, right?

ANTHONY 31:24

Yeah. Again, two things can be true.

NALEE 31:27

Okay. All right.

SPEAKER_02 31:28

Well, did you have anything else to add? Um. All right. Well, that comes.

NALEE 31:39

That's the conclusion

Final Verdict And Sign Off

NALEE 31:40

of this episode. Clearly, we stumped the hoe today. But join us again next Wednesday. Or not next Wednesday. Two Wednesdays from now. I don't know why I always choke up on this. Like every fucking time. See you in two Tuesdays. Or see you in two Wednesdays from now for Nolly's hypothetical hotline.

ANTHONY 31:59

That's dumb bitch.

NALEE 32:02

Thanks for joining. Okay, three, two, one. Bye.