🎙️Conspiracy Theories Pt. 2: Okay Now We’re Getting Weird (AUDIO ONLY)🎙️

👽 Conspiracy Theories Pt. 2: Okay Now We’re Getting Weird

You asked for another conspiracy episode…
 and somehow we ended up questioning history, aliens, black holes, reincarnation, and whether our brains are lying to us.

So… naturally… we went there.

This week on Twin Tangents, Anthony and Nalee dive headfirst back into conspiracy territory — except this time the theories get weirder, the tangents get deeper, and by the end we’re genuinely not sure if we uncovered something… or just collectively spiraled. 

Because Part 1 was suspicious.
 Part 2?
 Part 2 gets weird.

👉 Audio listeners: if you want to see the side-eyes, panic spirals, and moments where one of us says something and the other immediately regrets hearing it… head over to YouTube.

We’re talking:

🛸 Aliens: still suspicious → government secrets, ancient sightings, and why this topic somehow gets weirder every time
 🏜️ The pyramid debate → Egypt, impossible architecture, ancient civilizations, and “be serious… how did they actually do that?”
 🗿 History that feels fake → Stonehenge, ancient carvings, timelines that don’t add up, and why some things feel impossible
 🌌 Space is genuinely terrifying → black holes, infinite universe panic, and why we’d like the stars to maybe calm down
 🌀 Other dimensions?? → theories, loopholes, and asking way too many questions no one can answer
 ♻️ Reincarnation spirals → who qualifies, what happens next, and how this somehow became a full existential debate
 😳 Déjà vu explained… or not → brain glitches, dream theories, and the unsettling “wait… this already happened” feeling
 👻 Spiritual signs & passed loved ones → dreams, symbolism, and when weird starts feeling personal
 🤨 Skeptimistic energy → wanting evidence while fully entertaining every possibility anyway
 😂 Classic Twin Tangents chaos → random side quests, accidental history lessons, and at least three moments where we confused ourselves

This episode is weird, hilarious, mildly existential, and exactly the kind of spiral we should probably not be trusted with.

Because the deeper we got…
 the stranger it got.

And somehow by the end we had more questions than answers. Which honestly feels right.

Quick disclaimer: This episode contains aliens, history tangents, black hole panic, existential overthinking, and a medically unnecessary amount of “wait… hold on…”

It’s spooky, chaotic, and deeply unserious…
 until suddenly it isn’t.

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 We came here for conspiracy theories.
 We left questioning literally everything. 👽✨

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Transcript

Rain Banter And Bangs Update

ANTHONY 0:20

It actually is really nice though.

NALEE 0:22

Yeah, it was really nice. But fuck the rain. I mean, I lied. I miss the rain. I love the rain.

ANTHONY 0:29

We need the rain. As Richard would say, we need the rain. The grass needs the rain.

NALEE 0:34

You guys, your backyard is nice enough to not even need the fucking rain. I'm confused.

ANTHONY 0:38

I don't get it either.

NALEE 0:39

I mean, you guys just started planting stuff. I don't get the hard bombs.

ANTHONY 0:43

With rain and grass.

NALEE 0:45

It's like you and birds. Is it though? But hey, I got bangs.

ANTHONY 0:49

I know. You look so good with bangs.

NALEE 0:51

Well, not according to Polly. She said I looked quote unquote or quote from her. She said that I looked ugly.

ANTHONY 0:58

So that actually reminds me. Can you deliver a message to Polly for me?

NALEE 1:02

Yeah, we could do it on the pod.

ANTHONY 1:04

Go suck a fucking fart, Polly. She looks good with bangs.

NALEE 1:07

Thank you. All right. Well, should we hip on? Anyways, welcome back. Yeah. She will suck a fart this afternoon. Yes, she will. That she will. All right. Welcome back to Twin Tangents, the podcast where apparently one conspiracy theory episode is not enough for you people.

ANTHONY 1:25

Y'all a bunch of freaks, and I don't blame you because I'm living for it. Honestly, after part one, I realized two things.

NALEE 1:32

One, our listeners are deeply entertained by our chaos.

ANTHONY 1:36

And two, some of y'all absolutely have FBI watch lists search histories.

NALEE 1:42

I'm included in that.

Conspiracies Part Two Begins

NALEE 1:43

But, anyways, the amount of DMs we got saying you have to talk about aliens was honestly concerning y'all. Calm down.

ANTHONY 1:50

No, don't calm down. Keep them coming. But that does mean that today we're going to be diving back into conspiracies that are somehow even stranger.

NALEE 1:58

Now we're talking ghosts, dreams, aliens, simulation theories, creepy coincidences, government cover-ups.

ANTHONY 2:06

Basically, all of the things that keep people awake at night at two in the morning after watching one TikTok slideshow with scary music in the back.

NALEE 2:16

Disclaimer, we y'all already know we're not experts. All of this is from our LSD, MDA, psychology degree, all right?

ANTHONY 2:26

Yep. Yep. Exactly. We barely passed science class, but we always have something to say.

NALEE 2:32

Exactly. And we are chronologically online enough to know exactly which rabbit holes people are falling right into. Or falling into right now.

ANTHONY 2:45

Just for those listeners out there, Nolly actually met chronically, not chronologically.

unknown 2:50

Oh yeah.

NALEE 2:51

But she's pretty. She's got bangs.

ANTHONY 2:57

You're pretty.

NALEE 2:58

It is what it is, is what it is. But our first segment is the universe is suspicious.

ANTHONY 3:04

Yeah, that's a great way to start. You know, space is terrifying.

NALEE 3:09

Literally, the ocean already scares me. I mean, low-key, I'm like super like interested in the ocean. But still, what if that made, you know, like what if space somehow said, let's make this worse?

ANTHONY 3:23

Because why is the universe infinite? That feels fake already when we're thinking about it.

NALEE 3:28

And you and the internet loves a good alien theory. So here we are.

ANTHONY 3:34

God, I could talk about aliens all day. Um, and this actually is triggering for me because this takes me back to a conversation we had at the further, and we can visit that. But at this point, people don't even ask if aliens exist anymore. Because those who know know.

NALEE 3:50

Exactly. They ask whether the government is hiding something in Nevada. So here we go. A Tony, what do you have on the chop and black today?

ANTHONY 4:02

Okay, so first I want to tangent and I want to revisit this story regarding aliens.

NALEE 4:07

I think I know which one you're talking about, but go on.

ANTHONY 4:09

The one with Stacey?

NALEE 4:11

Yeah.

ANTHONY 4:11

Do you remember this?

NALEE 4:12

I think we talked about this too. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

ANTHONY 4:13

Yeah. We oh, we already talked about it last conspiracy episode, didn't we?

NALEE 4:17

Um, I don't remember.

ANTHONY 4:18

Okay. Well, I won't tangent that.

NALEE 4:20

I think we did, but yeah.

ANTHONY 4:21

I'm just gonna say this. If you're that small-minded and you honestly are gonna sit there and say that we are the only living species in the entire infinite universe, you got some shit you need to work out. That's all I'm gonna say. But what I wanted to talk about was fired. Shots fired. I like you could not be any more selfish to think that.

NALEE 4:45

I mean, she's not selfish. She made us like the tater tot hot dish casserole stuff. She eats selfish.

ANTHONY 4:51

I think just No, I mean selfish in a different like standpoint. And I don't mean just her, I just mean anybody out there. If there's anybody out there that seriously thinks that humans and the people on this planet are the only thing, the only species in an infinite universe where more of the universe has not been explored, that I I for one think that you're a selfish person if you seriously think that and you seriously believe that.

NALEE 5:17

Okay. Okay.

ANTHONY 5:18

This is gonna get me canceled. This is gonna be next week on solo tangents with Nolly.

unknown 5:25

Yeah.

NALEE 5:26

And it's what it is. Remember, we I like I told you that we are it's the end of the episode because you kept talking about my kitty. I guess this is gonna be your ending. So, but anyways, I'm just kidding. This is for life, nothing's going on.

ANTHONY 5:41

It's just what happens at the beginning of this. All your little friends were like, Anthony needs to talk more. We need more from Anthony. Now I'm giving you Anthony and y'all bitches can't handle it.

NALEE 5:52

No, we love it.

ANTHONY 5:53

Just until I get canceled.

NALEE 5:55

Yeah. Exactly.

ANTHONY 5:56

And I I ain't gonna rein any of it in. I'm saying it with my chest.

NALEE 5:59

Period. That's how we do. That's how we do.

ANTHONY 6:02

Exactly. Period.

NALEE 6:03

All right, let's talk about aliens now. What's going on?

ANTHONY 6:05

Okay, what's new?

NALEE 6:06

What's popping?

ANTHONY 6:07

So the first thing that I wanted to talk about was just like ancient civilizations and alien help. This is how I know aliens exist. So basically, just a quick blurb for anybody out there. So this is a theory that's been discussed by multiple people and eight and about ancient civilizations. For example, and I think that this is the most popular example, is the pyramids.

NALEE 6:30

Mmm, okay.

ANTHONY 6:32

I have never been to Egypt.

Aliens And Ancient Mega Structures

ANTHONY 6:34

I've never seen the pyramids, but I've seen enough pictures to know that, you know, they have those big ass fucking blocks that built the pyramids. There's no fucking way that people were doing that by hand without the technology that we have now. Like, I can't even lift a fucking rock in my backyard and we're gonna have 50 people carrying a big ass well, what is the pyramid? I can't think of what they're made out of. I want to say limestone, but I don't think that that is right.

NALEE 7:03

I I wouldn't even know. I thought they were made out of sand.

ANTHONY 7:07

I feel like that's a common misconception.

NALEE 7:09

Yeah.

ANTHONY 7:10

Let's what are the pyramids made out of?

NALEE 7:14

Yeah, I thought they were made out of from like sand. Like, you know how like they do cement where they make sand and like whatever else together. I thought that's how pyramids were made.

ANTHONY 7:23

God damn, I'd be smart. It is. It's limestone. Limestone is the main material that made the pyramids.

NALEE 7:31

Are you sure you're not an alien bitch?

ANTHONY 7:33

Maybe I am. Tura limestone, which is a fine what fine white limestone. The main material is limestone, and then it looks like there may have also been granite in there, mortar, mud bricks. Bottom line, okay, right here. The pyramids are not hollow. They are made of millions of solid stone blocks, each weighing from a few tons up to 50 to 80 tons in some cases. Mind you, this I remember, one ton is 2,000 pounds.

NALEE 8:07

Yeah, how do people how do humans carry that?

ANTHONY 8:09

There's no fucking way. There is no way that technology was that advanced that they were able to build the pyramids of Giza. Like That's interesting. There's no fucking way. That that and that's a hill that I will die on.

NALEE 8:23

Yeah, I don't know about like building like pyramids and shit, but like, um, or I I don't know if I believe it, but I do question that. Like, how did that get there? Like, you know, those like weird big rocks I don't know where they're yes, where they have like those faces and stuff in it. Is that the stonehenge? That's not the stonehenge, that's something else, but that is another is the stonehenge the one where there's like seven blocks that blocks that are like in a circle thingy?

ANTHONY 8:52

They're in a circle and there's like kind of facing each other. It's like two, and then they have one going across.

NALEE 8:57

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

ANTHONY 8:58

And yeah. Yeah.

NALEE 8:59

Yeah, like who how how did that happen?

ANTHONY 9:02

How do they build that?

NALEE 9:02

Yeah, or how does it sit like that?

ANTHONY 9:04

So now in 2026, we have all of this ad advanced technology and we have all this equipment that are helping us build skyscrapers and build the Eiffel Tower. But okay, so let's go back how many hundreds, thousands of years, the Coliseum. Yeah.

NALEE 9:21

Like how they built that without But didn't like the ancient gods do that? I must sound real dumb right now because I forgot a lot of shit from high school, and I'm just making it up as I go. But as far as I remember, the Coliseum was built by gods, weren't they? Or by like slaves?

ANTHONY 9:40

I th I think you're thinking of the Parthenon.

NALEE 9:43

Bitch, you got me lost on a Coliseum, the Parthenon. What the fuck is going on here?

ANTHONY 9:48

What I'm saying is A little historic history lesson.

NALEE 9:51

Yeah. For for the dumb. History lesson for the dumb. But what I'm saying is, yeah, how how is it possible that we did that when we're just now coming up with technology within the 21st or 20th and 21st century of just using cranes and stuff? How did that exist back then? You know what I mean? So Yeah.

ANTHONY 10:11

So that is, I mean, like, that's a hill that I'm willing to die on. Like, there's no way that that was just human creation alone.

NALEE 10:18

Yeah, that's just that's free kriky diggy.

ANTHONY 10:21

And it like, I did a little prep for this segment. So the biggest argument with critics is that all of these things like the pyramids, the Stonehenge alignment, the ancient carvings and artwork that appear, I mean, there's even image imagery that depicts space-like beings. But the argument is that it underestimates human intelligence and engineering, which I agree. I agree with that. It it does.

NALEE 10:50

There's no what did the dinosaurs do that?

ANTHONY 10:54

The dinosaurs, yeah. Oh my god. Never mind.

NALEE 10:58

Wouldn't it be amazing to be alive when there's dinosaurs? I feel like Yeah. I feel like maybe it's just me, but I mean, I love dinosaurs. Y'all already know me. I have dinosaur earrings, I have tattoos. But oh, and uh my phone case, hello, it's dinosaurs. It's a Kileo dinosaur killing thingy. Isn't it cute? Anyways, uh yeah, I love dinosaurs, but wouldn't it be amazing to be alive while dinosaurs are alive? Like that shit would I would die. That's all.

ANTHONY 11:27

It would I feel like it would be very interesting to be alive during that time.

NALEE 11:33

Yeah.

ANTHONY 11:33

And I wonder with evolution and everything.

NALEE 11:37

I mean, I know I ain't gonna survive. I'm a self-sacrifice. I'm gonna be like, feed yourself. Come on.

ANTHONY 11:41

Do you think so though?

NALEE 11:42

Because it's like I mean, I'd be I'd be scared and I'd run, but I'd be like, you know what? I wanted to see you. But it's preservation.

ANTHONY 11:50

It's preservation. It's one of those things where it's like you learn what not to do. You know what I mean?

NALEE 11:55

Have you met me? Have you met me? You learn what not to do, and then I'm the one who does what not you're supposed to do, what you're not supposed to do.

ANTHONY 12:01

Touche, very well played. Well played.

NALEE 12:04

Yeah.

ANTHONY 12:05

You guys would be like, don't go over there.

NALEE 12:07

There's a big T-Rex. And I'd be like, T-Rex, where bitch polo. Over here. Exactly.

ANTHONY 12:13

No, I just think it's one of those things. I feel like that's like an innate human thing where it's like we have the need to survive and we're gonna do what we can, and we're gonna, you know, to the last breath. So yeah.

NALEE 12:28

I agree. That'd be awesome.

ANTHONY 12:30

But I did have a couple questions for you.

NALEE 12:32

Okay.

ANTHONY 12:32

Specifically regarding my topic and like ancient civilizations and aliens and help with building the pyramids and Stonehenge. Like, what are your thoughts? Why why do you feel like people struggle to believe that ancient humans were capable of because they're stupid? Incredible engine.

NALEE 12:51

Because they're stupid. Because I think some people try some people would like to think that humans are superior and they can't like get over the fact that there's other things that are better and bigger and smarter than beyond us. Yeah. Yeah. But my my my rebuttal to that is if that's the case, then why do people believe in why do people believe in God? You know what I mean? Like if they think that humans are above all, why do they believe in God then?

ANTHONY 13:19

But God's not a human.

NALEE 13:21

He was a human.

ANTHONY 13:22

No, no, no, no. God was not a human.

NALEE 13:24

Jesus was human. Okay, let me let me take it back. Jesus. They believe in Jesus, right? And they think that Jesus. No, funny sights.

ANTHONY 13:38

We're gonna have no tangents.

NALEE 13:40

No, okay. Quick tangent. Like when I was in middle school, there was a guy, his name was Jesus, and I didn't know that it was pronounced Jesus. So, like when I used to, I think like in middle school, you know how like when you could help the teacher like check attendance and stuff, and you wanted to be like top bitch or whatever, or like teacher's assistant or whatever. And so then, like the ass kisser of the class. Exactly, yes. I wasn't really the ass kisser of the class, but when I had the chance to, yes, I did. I kissed the ass good. But there I was like doing attendance, and I think he was like a new kid or something. He just came into our school or whatever, or into our class, and so then she was like, Oh yeah, take attendance, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I was like yelling their names, and then I was like, Jesus, and then nobody like answered to that. I was like, uh, Jesus is Jesus, and then I was like, wait, that don't sound right. And so Malarke? Is there a malarkey here? Malake. Hey, Aaron! Hey, Aaron! Um, yeah, but then my teacher was like, You mean Jesus? And I'm like, oh, that's how Jesus is spelled like. And so, like, throughout high school, I would mix up the two. I would be like, either Jesus or Jesus. So whenever I met somebody with that name, I would ask them first, like, how do you pronounce your name? And they would be like, Oh, my name is Jesus, or I did meet somebody with the name Jesus. So that's why I was like, Oh, okay. I have, yes.

ANTHONY 15:02

Okay, because I was literally just gonna ask that. I was like, I wonder if anybody actually named their kid Jesus.

NALEE 15:07

Yeah, I've met, I think there was like one kid, he was like, he was like, he was black, but they named it him Jesus. And I was like, Oh, like, are you like Hispanic? Or is that just like a got like a gospel name or whatever the fuck? Or and he was like, No, my name is Jesus. And I was like, Oh, so you weigh Jesus. And he's like, No, I'm Jesus. So I'm like, okay, cool. And so then, like, whenever I see that name, I'm triggered so bad by it that I always have to be like, okay, how do you pronounce your name? Like, I'm not gonna even attempt it, you tell me. And so then, yeah. But, anyways, what were we talking about? Um, Jesus, yeah, that's my question.

ANTHONY 15:44

Isn't that dinosaurs?

unknown 15:46

Yeah.

ANTHONY 15:47

Right? Or aliens.

NALEE 15:49

Yeah, yeah, aliens. Like if if humans can't believe that aliens are like superior to humans, why do they believe in Jesus? Because Jesus is a human and why is he superior? You know what I mean? I don't know. That was just food for thought.

ANTHONY 16:05

I do know what you mean. I don't know that I would go as far as to say that Jesus is looked at as superior to humans. We're not even you know what? I'm getting in the back.

NALEE 16:20

That's what I said. That's what I was like, ooh, I caught myself and I was like, let's not go there.

ANTHONY 16:24

I have so many I could go down that rabbit hole.

NALEE 16:28

Okay.

ANTHONY 16:28

What are your other questions I could say on that?

NALEE 16:30

We'll we'll circle back on that one on a different episode.

ANTHONY 16:33

Yeah, yeah. Maybe. Maybe a saturgy one, yeah. So going back to like the pyramids, and now that you know how big those blocks are that made the pyramids, pyramids aside, are there any ancient structures that you are aware of that you wonder like how was that built? How was that made?

NALEE 16:59

Um, I think I said those those weird rocks that are like that sit on top of each other. There's this other one where like there's just really huge blocks or rocks that like are stacked on top of each other, isn't there?

SPEAKER_02 17:12

Oh.

NALEE 17:12

I could be making it up, but I'm pretty sure there is like these rocks that are like just neatly stacked on top of each other, and people are just like, how does that happen?

ANTHONY 17:20

Well, yeah, I okay, okay. So I do wonder how that ha does happen. I don't know that there's like, and I could be wrong, listeners, if watchers, viewers, if anybody knows of one, like let me know. But I don't think that there is like one like universal wonder that's like there's more than like yeah, yeah.

NALEE 17:39

Exactly. There's random ones where like they stack rocks on top, like rocks are just perfectly stacked on cho on top of each other.

ANTHONY 17:46

That's an art form too, I think.

NALEE 17:48

Yeah, something like that.

ANTHONY 17:49

I think that people do that, yeah.

NALEE 17:50

But like I'm talking about huge rocks, like rocks that humans can't carry.

ANTHONY 17:54

Like lift.

NALEE 17:55

Yeah, they there are some throughout like the whole world or whatever. There's just too much. I could be making it up, but I'm pretty sure that's a thing. What? That the rocks like are stacked neatly on top of each other. That is a thing, isn't it? I feel like it is a thing.

ANTHONY 18:11

You should Google that.

NALEE 18:12

You should Google that.

ANTHONY 18:14

I legitimately, yeah. There's just too many things that exist that can't be explained. And maybe this is like my own innate like human desire to want to think that there's something bigger out there. But if you can't explain something, you can't explain something. So what do you do? You know what I mean?

NALEE 18:41

Yeah, I think I mean, honestly, like there's we I don't know how to say it, but like I feel like we think that we've discovered a lot of things, but there's so many other things that we haven't even touched on, you know? Yes. Which is so cool and at the same time freaky as hell.

ANTHONY 19:00

Well, and again, that goes back to my statement from earlier. Like the universe is infinite, and there's so much out there that we haven't explored or seen, and it's literally just it truly is a guessing game based on what we know scientifically. But like, like a black hole. Scientists think they know what happened if you fall into a black hole, but we don't, because nobody's ever gone through a black hole and returned to tell about it.

NALEE 19:27

They'd be torn into shreds, is what they'd be doing.

ANTHONY 19:30

Would they? We don't know. How do you how do we know that falling into a black hole doesn't just take you to another dimension universe or something like that? I don't know.

NALEE 19:40

I would fucking hope that that's what happens. I would freaking die if we discovered that there are like multiple universes. Like that would be so freaking cool.

ANTHONY 19:51

Part of me wonder, yeah, okay. Actually, that made me think of something. I s I I read something the other day, and it was a question. Somebody had posed the question, you know how they say that when you're dying, like you see a light at the end of the tunnel?

NALEE 20:09

That's when you go back into your mom's vagina.

ANTHONY 20:11

Yes. They said, How do we know that that light isn't you leaving one bodily form and being reborn? And it's the light outside of a vagina.

NALEE 20:24

Yeah. Okay. We're gonna end up tangenting a lot in this episode just because we're talking a lot about a lot of interesting stuff. And again, that's exactly why

Reincarnation Beliefs And The Afterlife

NALEE 20:33

we did episode two, because I think a lot of people like the first one. But yeah, I think so too. Like, for I correct me if I'm wrong. I'm sure my sister's gonna fucking say something like, you're wrong.

ANTHONY 20:45

But anyways, um, you're embarrassing yourself.

NALEE 20:49

No, literally. I mean, tell me, tell me something I don't already know. But um, like we believe in reincarnation, like our like religion, like the Mmong people, they believe that when somebody dies, they come they become reborn and they are like whatever. And so then I've heard, I've heard there's no positive, like tested theory, whatever. If y'all has gone back to your mama's vagina and then reborn, you tell us. But as far as I know, the theory is that when a person passes away, we have like our funeral, right? And so then whoever leads their funeral takes the person who died who died's spirit back to the steps that they've gone through. So through the years, they'd be, you know, they die of old age, which is ideal. Like somebody who's old dies. And so then the person who leads the funeral takes them back through the years that they've had up until they're a little kid again. And so then when they follow the light, that's them being reborn into a new person or new thing, whether it's an animal, whether it's person, whether it's an airplane, I don't know. But that's just kind of like as far as I Know again, don't quote me on this the theory of like the the reincarnation of like Hmong people or our religion or whatever. Again, don't quote me on this. This is just something that I think that I heard. So yeah.

ANTHONY 22:14

Okay. I have a question for you. So Hmong tradition and like beliefs aside, and I hope this isn't something that can get you into trouble, but you personally, what are your beliefs or your thoughts on reincarnation? You don't buy it?

NALEE 22:36

I don't know. I think I do believe in it. Like, I think there's a like I would honestly, I would like to believe that reincarnation is a thing, but I would like to also believe that you don't just come back as a human. That I think that this is my theory. I'm gonna let you guys step into my head a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 22:56

Oh fuck.

NALEE 22:57

And black hole. God damn it. You're gonna get sucked in. See, okay, anyways, but I mean, this is like interesting to me. So my theory is again, y'all know me that crazy things happen in here. But my theory is that when you die, you don't necessarily have to become a human again. I hope that like I could become a bird or a turtle or whale or I don't know, something. But then I feel like I do believe partially in reincarnation, that when somebody dies, if they are a good person, I know personally I'm going to hell. But even if I go to hell, I hope that I reincarnate as a bird, that I will always just have to fly and I can't sit or stand and I will constantly just have to fly. That will be my hell. You know what I mean? Or like if like let's say like my grandmother passed away, like maybe she reincarnated to be an a white baby or like a Chinese baby or whatever, you know? So, all in all, yes, I believe in cut reincarnation. I just don't believe in the theory that they become a human again. I believe that in some way, shape, or form they rebirth into something. Not anything specific, but something.

ANTHONY 24:12

So I feel like this would have been a really good episode to like invite somebody who is a churchgoer or religious association. So that we can get canceled? No, for discussion and educational purposes, because I've ne I I mean, and maybe this was a Hmong thing, but like as far as everything that I've ever heard about reincarnation, I've I don't think I've ever heard like you're you can only be reincarnated as a human. I've heard that you can come back as a bird or a dog or a a dog is a big one, you know, man's best friend. And it's like, yeah. I think I told you this when we got Duffy. I was like, he his eyes when I got him, I was like, those are human eyes. Like there was just something about his eyes. They changed now. They're not so kind anymore.

NALEE 25:01

Yeah, he attacked me when I came there last time.

ANTHONY 25:04

I was like, ah Yeah, run for your goddamn life.

NALEE 25:07

Yeah, for real.

ANTHONY 25:09

But yeah, I'm I wonder if you're gonna be able to do that.

NALEE 25:10

Yeah, we could definitely, we could definitely like obviously we're actually again another tangent tangent. It's gonna be our one year in a month. Can you believe that?

ANTHONY 25:21

Less than a month.

NALEE 25:22

Which is yeah, which is crazy.

ANTHONY 25:24

Yeah.

NALEE 25:25

You know, now that we've surpassed, once we surpassed our one year, y'all, we're gonna be looking for guests on our our channel. People want to come in, put in their two cents and stuff like that. Yeah. I think it'll be an amazing episode to just kind of like debrief and like get down and dirty and like get another person's perspective. Exactly. Because join in other people, we're the crazy ones here. We need we need a sane person in this podcast.

ANTHONY 25:53

That part. That part.

NALEE 25:54

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, do you believe in reincarnation?

ANTHONY 25:58

I do believe in reincarnation. And we can dive more into this if you have more questions, but I want to go back to one more thing that you said. You said you're already going to you're going to hell, you already know that you're going to hell.

NALEE 26:08

I do.

ANTHONY 26:08

I'm pretty sure, honey boo boo, that if you go to hell, reincarnation is not an option. I think reincarnation is only for those who qualify.

NALEE 26:18

See, that could be a thing too. That is there really a hell? You know what I mean? And what qualifies me to be in hell. I mean, don't get me wrong. I laugh at like really bad stuff. Like, but that's because I have dark humor. Are you gonna fault me as a human who has dark humor as an evil person because I've gone through like dark things and I appreciate dark humor?

ANTHONY 26:42

Or keep in mind, those who go to hell, it's not for being a dark person or an evil person. It's for there are a set of rules. Yeah, there's a set of rules that you need to abide by throughout your life.

NALEE 26:54

And if you break said rules, yeah, I haven't done anything that's horrible. I just laugh at really bad things.

ANTHONY 27:00

Are you sure?

NALEE 27:02

What does that mean? Are you trying to say something?

ANTHONY 27:05

I mean, do you really want to get into it? Again, this should this should probably be a good idea.

NALEE 27:09

What have I done that should have been sinned? What did I what did I sin on?

ANTHONY 27:12

Well, you know what? Okay, I'm gonna take that back because I don't know what like Hmong religion, I don't know what your rules are. But like for example, Catholics know sex before marriage. So if you're dating somebody for five years and you have sex, you broke that.

NALEE 27:32

That immediately puts you in hell?

ANTHONY 27:34

Or probably or purgatory. I don't know what I don't know exactly what all the rules and rules and regulations are, but a lot of non-Catholics be going to hell then.

NALEE 27:45

See, that's the thing. I'm not saying that I'm gonna go to hell. I'm not saying that I did that. I'm just saying that, like, yo, that's a that's a lie.

ANTHONY 27:51

At the bottom of the You do you boo.

NALEE 27:54

Whatever the show is.

ANTHONY 27:55

Just be a good person.

NALEE 27:56

And it's like But can you be a good person for laughing at like a handicapped video though? That's the thing. Okay, see? Look at you. I didn't even say anything and you're laughing.

ANTHONY 28:09

So I mean That's because you had guilty written across your forehead. Like, as soon as you asked that, I was like, this bitch has been laughing at handicap videos.

NALEE 28:18

Okay, you know what? There's this video that Anthony, Anthony, Anthony put this in my head, okay? I'm just gonna share it out there. If you guys have seen this video, you guys are automatically in my club. If you laughed a little bit, or if you laughed a lot, you guys are exactly where you're supposed to be. But there's this video where a lady, I think you know exactly what I'm talking about. I don't. There's this lady who was writing the hover, her hover round, I think that's what it's called. It's like the mechanic like chairs that handicapped people sit in. Oh my god, I'm getting to this. Yes. But, anyways, she's writing and she looks all peaceful and boom, this card comes and like runs her over. It's horrible. But it's so funny. Okay, I'm done. That's it. I'm going to heaven. I'm going to heaven. I'm going to heaven. Oh, I have sinned for laughing at that stable lady, but please, God, please take me in your arms. Forgive me for I have sinned.

ANTHONY 29:10

I'm going to say one last thing, and then we I want to move on to what your topic is for this segment. This the one last thing that I'm going to say regarding the conversation that we just danced around.

NALEE 29:22

Okay.

ANTHONY 29:23

Is nobody can judge anybody or make any make any determination against somebody else about whether or not they're going to hell or heaven or whether or not where they're going to end up. At the end of the day, regardless of anybody's religious beliefs, there's only one person that can judge and determine your eternal fate.

NALEE 29:44

And who's that you?

ANTHONY 29:45

Yes.

NALEE 29:46

Perien. Oh. No, it's it's the big man.

ANTHONY 29:51

It's whoever whatever, whoever you believe in, it's the big man upstairs. Like.

NALEE 29:56

Believe in yourself, bitch.

ANTHONY 29:58

Like.

NALEE 29:59

Believe in yourself.

ANTHONY 30:00

I've had the conversation, like, I may not necessarily God, we're really getting, we're tangenting and we're really getting into certain things.

NALEE 30:06

That's okay. Twin tangents, baby.

ANTHONY 30:08

I I don't believe in God, but I believe Exactly. In in in the eyes of people who do, I'm going to hell because of because of that. Or, you know, I I don't believe in God, but I believe in a higher power. I believe that there is something that is above us, and there's more to this realm and this life that we are living.

NALEE 30:31

Okay. I personally don't know. I don't know anything.

ANTHONY 30:34

So that's the beauty of it. That's the beauty of this life, is that there are certain things that we don't know, and there are certain things that we will never know.

NALEE 30:44

Yeah.

ANTHONY 30:44

We're not meant to know everything.

NALEE 30:46

We're not. And sometimes, even if we do know everything, we still don't even know everything.

ANTHONY 30:51

Period.

NALEE 30:52

So. Anyways, excuse me, Jesus. Do you have another topic you wanted to talk about?

ANTHONY 30:59

You said Jesus. I was gonna be like, yes, my child.

NALEE 31:02

Hey Zeus. Um Hey Zeus! Hey Zeus! Hey Zeus.

ANTHONY 31:08

No, considering we probably just spent an hour talking about what I originally brought up and tangenting off, you I'll give the floor to you.

NALEE 31:17

Okay. All right. I'll try to try to see, but what I wanted to talk about was the low, like the super big issue or the really big question that everybody has. Like, are we in assimilation or the simulation theory? And one big thing I wanted to focus on was deja vu. I don't know if we've talked about this in our first one. I feel like I didn't talk about it, but like some people think that deja vu is a glitch. Like, for example, the Mandela effect. I think we talked about that, or

Simulation Theory And Deja Vu

NALEE 31:48

coincidences, or bugs in the simulation. I there's no like specific scientific support for this, but it's become like a really big theme or a really big, I guess, thing in mainstream media. For me though, I personally with deja vu, like, I have a lot of deja vues. I don't know about anybody else. I don't know about you, Anthony, but like there's like I have a lot of deja vu. Like sometimes I'll be like, whoa, I just had deja vu. And it's just there's this thing that happens to you. I don't know about anybody else, but there's this things that happen to me when I get deja vu. Like I kind of like spin a little bit where I'm like, whoa, like I've I've felt this, I've dreamt this, I've done this, I've said this, I've seen this, I've done this, you know? And honestly, it's kind of a cool feeling, but it's kind of like, why though? Like, why have I already done this before? Or, you know, like you kind of question everything. We're like, okay, like what's next? Because for me, like I I have very vivid dreams, and I sometimes I don't have really good dreams. And to me, when I think about having deja vu, it makes me go into a spiral as in, does all the bad things that I've dreamed about too eventually become reality, you know? And that's the thing that scares me. It's just like when you have deja vu, it's just kind of like, whoa, did that just really happen? Or I've done this before, kind of a thing, you know?

ANTHONY 33:15

Yes. I don't even know where to begin with that.

NALEE 33:21

You look like you were ready to say something.

ANTHONY 33:23

Well, I don't know the exact there the exact reason because we we both know how I am with science, but I do remember reading specifically regarding deja vu. There is a scientific reason why you experience that, and it has something to do with like the synapses in your brain. Like something.

NALEE 33:45

Okay, but my question is uh-huh. My question is though, why are you having deja vu on something that hasn't already happened and it's just now happening? Like it's in the future. Like it's not a sense of I've had deja vu of things I've already done in the past. It's something that I've haven't even done, I didn't even think about it. And it's like people you meet and stuff like that. So for example, so for example, I recently had a deja vu where like I went out with this person, we went to a bar, and then like I had deja vu, they were sitting in front of me, we were eating this, and then the waiter came and said specifically something, and I was just like, whoa, like I wouldn't have never thought that this was like a deja vu moment. You know what I mean? So that's the thing that trips me up. Like, deja vu isn't something necessarily where you dreamt of in the past, it's more of like it's happening, it's ongoing, and then your brain clicks and you're just like, whoa, this happened in my dream, and it's becoming a reality. Yeah.

ANTHONY 34:45

So okay, so I'm just gonna I I just looked it up here. So this is the leading scientific explanation for deja vu. So it's a brief memory mismatch. Most it's the most accept this is the most accepted theory. Your brain normally separates current experiences from stored memories. So with deja vu, your brain may accidentally tag a new experience as a memory for a split second. So instead of your brain going, This is happening now, your brain, the synapses mix match, and it says, I remember this, signaling to you and to your brain that this has already happened before, even though it hasn't.

NALEE 35:31

But this is a theory, right? So it hasn't been.

ANTHONY 35:35

Yeah, that's true. It has not, you know.

NALEE 35:40

Yeah, but I don't know. I think deja vu is like very interesting.

ANTHONY 35:44

Have you ever had anything like, because you had said, like, well, what if these bad things come true? Have you ever had anything like that happen?

NALEE 35:56

I wouldn't say that it's happened like verbatim, but I it's happened closely to what I've dreamt about.

ANTHONY 36:02

Okay.

NALEE 36:03

So I guess I guess that theory would probably match it. The theory of it like your brain is just connecting things that's happened in the past to something's happening now. Yeah. Yeah. But it's also the thing of like, I don't know. I mean, I'm talking I'm gonna talk about this in like my later, like one of my later topics, but it's just kind of those a thing, because it's related to dreams, it's the thing of like, it's it's gonna sound stupid, but it's the the instance where like I dream about something somebody, and then like within a week or a couple of days, they end up passing away. It's kind of like that. Yeah, like the thing like yeah, like it happened to my grandpa. Now that's like my grandpa.

ANTHONY 36:44

That's like the uncle or that's the story that you told about your uncle.

NALEE 36:47

Exactly. So that's what I'm saying, is that like dreams in itself though, or like deja vu. Well, like for me, for me, like deja vu is like deja vu is based off on dreams though, right?

ANTHONY 37:02

Not necessarily dreams, it it can be dreams, it can be memories, it's just it's basically recalling something that you're like, I this is already before.

NALEE 37:11

Yeah, okay, so that okay, so now that makes sense. Okay, because for me, I associate deja vu with my dreams because majority of the times my deja vuos are from dreams that I've already had. And like I said, I have pretty vivid dreams and I I I would like to think that I have a good memory on certain things. And so then, like when I've dreamt about it and then it happens, it kind of makes me think like, okay, what if something else happens? I'm not saying like I'm a I'm a I predict the future or whatever, but I'm just uh probably, yeah. Which um bitch, which bitch, which bitch, but exactly. Two things can be true at one time, so that's okay. That's but like for me, I associate deja vues with dreams because for me, a lot of my deja vu's are from dreams. So then that's why I was saying, and again, probably I'm going off topic, but like when I dream things, it's not necessarily it doesn't necessarily happen verbatim, but when they've happened, it's similar to what has happened, or it relates to it somehow, or it could be that my brain is just relating it.

ANTHONY 38:21

Well, it could be, it could be both of those, but it's also, you know, going to the first thing that you were saying where it's like it's not verbatim, but it's similar. That could also be, you know, in the research that I was doing just now regarding like deja vu.

NALEE 38:37

Your thorough research, my thorough research.

ANTHONY 38:41

So with regards to it being paranormal and like the whole like glitches in the matrix, right? Yeah.

NALEE 38:47

Yeah.

ANTHONY 38:48

So it really, I mean, okay, so you're saying it might not be happen verbatim, but you at the same time, there's all of the possible variants that could change. What's what was that movie?

NALEE 39:03

The butterfly effect?

ANTHONY 39:04

Yes. With Ashton Kutcher, right?

NALEE 39:06

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

ANTHONY 39:07

Yeah. So it's literally it's just a matter of you know, a fly going to the right instead of going to the left. And everything following that, the outcome changes.

NALEE 39:18

Yeah. So But yeah, I mean, it's it's very interesting. Like if anybody who listens to our podcast with this specific segment who is obsessed with deja vu stuff or you know stuff, hit us up. I think I would be very interested to hear more about it. Obviously, I'm lazy to do the research, but if you want to tell me more about it, because I'm sitting here doing it for you. Yeah, if you want to tell me more about it, I'd be I would love to have a sit-down session and talk all about it because I think it's very interesting. One other thing I wanted to talk about was the fact that nothing feels real anymore.

ANTHONY 39:54

Okay, before we go on to that, I have one more question on your deja vu.

NALEE 39:58

Okay.

ANTHONY 39:58

So do you think that there's any paranormal connection to it? Do you think it do you think that that it's a form of like all I can think of is like charmed and how Phoebe had the power of premonition? Yeah, I mean definitely unconscious.

NALEE 40:16

I definitely think it's some form of supernatural. I mean, just speaking again, bringing in my religion or whatever, I think like if somebody, if a shaman or whatever, I'm being very like skeptic about this, or is that how you say skeptical about this? Skeptimistic.

ANTHONY 40:36

Dom bitch.

NALEE 40:38

You know what? It makes sense. It makes sense, whatever.

ANTHONY 40:42

Skeptimistic. I do like it.

NALEE 40:44

Yeah, but if I'm being skeptic about this, I feel like a lot of like shamans and stuff, they would be like, oh, like you have a gift or whatever. I've heard that in the past, where like if you know, like if I dream of something and it like happens, or like I said, the mo the the instance where like before my grandma passed away, I had a dream about her, or my uncle passed away, I had a dream about him. And also I have a lot of dreams about people who's passed away and they come in a very like scary form or whatever, that's not a good sign. But like normally, if I was to tell my dreams to like a shaman or people who believe in like the spiritual side of things, they'd be like, Oh yeah, like you're gifted or whatever. But I'm just like, nah, bitch, I'm just having a bad dream, man. That's I'm haunted. Yeah, literally. Yeah, but I definitely think there is on some kind of level, I think it could be spiritual. I think I'm the reality of it is I'm too scared to believe that it's actually anything because I don't want to deal with it. That's the real truth. Is that if it is, I don't want to care enough about it because I would I'd be too scared if it is true. You know what I mean?

ANTHONY 41:56

Why would you be scared though?

NALEE 41:57

Because I don't want to deal with that. Like, that's scary. Like, I don't want to I'm not gifted. I don't want to be gifted or whatever. I'm just I would pursue it. What if you are I'm not.

ANTHONY 42:09

Well, how do you know? You're saying that you're experiencing these things just like I'm mentally gifted.

NALEE 42:14

I have a touch of the tism, but like nothing canceled to Yeah, nothing crazy like that. But it I do have a touch of the Tism, okay? Whether y'all want to cancel me or not. Listen to the past, I don't know how many episodes. And if you don't listen to the way I am, and you don't at least say, Yeah, that bitch is probably ADHD, autistic, or some kind of disabled, you don't know me well enough.

ANTHONY 42:39

With that being said, I did have a therapy appointment yesterday and I did drop a comment. I did, I did. I said, my, you know, my friend Nolly and I were talking, and we were we made the joke that we should probably plug our podcast to our therapist so that you guys could listen to it and tell us what the hell's wrong with us.

NALEE 42:58

They're gonna come back with like three notebooks of like shit that's wrong with us.

ANTHONY 43:02

We got volume one, volume two, volume three, volume four.

NALEE 43:06

Like, this is where the abuse happened, and this is why we keep talking about it. Yeah, exactly.

ANTHONY 43:11

But my therapist did say that she's not opposed to it.

NALEE 43:14

So okay. Now I'm really scared because we really could be really fucked up.

ANTHONY 43:22

I didn't give it to her. Yeah.

NALEE 43:24

Oh, okay, good. Interesting. I definitely need to plug it into my therapist too. It's been a hot minute since I've seen him.

ANTHONY 43:30

So just drop it in and see, just see what he says. See how if he'll feel it out.

NALEE 43:35

Yeah.

ANTHONY 43:36

I forgot what I was gonna say.

NALEE 43:38

Sorry. Are you sorry?

ANTHONY 43:40

Okay, Beyonce.

NALEE 43:43

You said something about something that I mentioned.

ANTHONY 43:45

Well, you had mentioned that you're like, I'm not gifted, I'm not gifted, and that you don't want this. But just because you refuse to want something or you refuse to acknowledge something doesn't make mean that you're not. Gifted. Maybe you are gifted. Maybe this is something that was and again, this is going out to you know the universe, and we don't know how it works, why things happen the way that they do, but maybe you were bestowed this this gift for whatever reason and this, for lack of better words, power to be able to see things or handle or experience different things. And again, just because you don't want it and you don't want to experience it doesn't mean it's not there.

NALEE 44:30

That's true.

ANTHONY 44:31

Like, I don't want curly hair, but when I had hair, I had curly hair. You know, it's just the way the cookie crumbles.

NALEE 44:38

I would, and I love the fact that you said that, like, you know, you're not, you're just putting it out there to the universe. And I'm a track I'm a cracker joker really quick, but I want to put it out there that the only power that I want is with money. So if it ain't involving money, I don't want it. I don't want it, I don't want it, I don't want it. Take it back.

ANTHONY 45:00

If only it works like that, my dear.

NALEE 45:02

No, bro. But y'all, the billionaire that wants to give me a hundred thousand million dollars, remember? I'm manifesting that still. Like on a real note, I don't think I'm gifted. I think it just it just happens to be what it is. I mean, eventually, if it happens like often enough, I may look into it. Like I may have, like, I don't know, shaman look into it or whatever. But I don't think it is. I think it's just kind of like it's a coincidence.

ANTHONY 45:27

And it very well could be that too. You never know.

NALEE 45:32

All right. Did you have anything else to add to this before I move on?

ANTHONY 45:35

No, go ahead. You can move on to your second, second topic.

NALEE 45:40

Alright. Alright, so again, my second topic was actually about dreams. That dreams mean more than what we think. So, for example, predicting events through dreams, we've talked about that, or even sleep paralysis dreams. Excuse me. I think we've talked about this before. I really wanted to talk about that because I have a fascination with sleep paralysis. Pretty much, I don't know. I feel like a not not I've had like half and half where people know what sleep paralysis is and people don't know what it is. But, anyways, what it is is sleep paralysis is is inspired

Dreams Sleep Paralysis And Lucid Control

NALEE 46:11

by demon myths. And what it is is it can cause terrifying hallucinations. For example, shadow figures, pressure on the chest, whispers, intruders, and many cultures interpreted these experiences as witches, demons, or alien encounters that cannot be explained. So I don't remember if I've ever talked about my experience. I feel like I may may have. Yeah. Yeah, but I've only had one knock on wood, but I heard that they're not pleasant. I think you've talked about it before, that you've had it, maybe.

ANTHONY 46:46

Well, I've I had what I described as sleep paralysis, but then you kind of debunked what what I experienced as far as like not it not being sleep paralysis.

NALEE 46:57

Oh, because you were asleep, right?

ANTHONY 46:59

You were saying that you were asleep and then No, well, so I was I was in a I don't know what state, because you know there's all those different states of the streets.

NALEE 47:08

Yeah, the REM sleep and stuff like that, yeah.

ANTHONY 47:10

But I was in a state where my eyes were open, my brain was aware of what was going on around me, but I couldn't move, I couldn't speak, I couldn't and I I knew I could like I could feel myself like trying to lift my hand or like trying to wake like wake up, wake up, and I just couldn't. So my my go-to in those instances because I do start to drift in my brain, because my brain is awake, I do start to drift into almost like a panic mode.

NALEE 47:43

Like I like Did I debunk that? I feel like that is a form of sleep paralysis, actually.

ANTHONY 47:49

I thought you did.

NALEE 47:51

I don't remember.

ANTHONY 47:52

I think I thought you had debunked it as something else.

NALEE 47:54

Oops.

ANTHONY 47:55

But my go-to in those instances to stop my brain from going into panic mode, yeah, is I try to force myself to go back to sleep.

NALEE 48:04

Okay. I don't know. I mean, as far as like sleep paralysis and stuff though, I again, I personally like I'm gonna bring it back to like our religion and stuff. I think I should have made this an episode in itself, actually, at this point.

ANTHONY 48:23

Not too late. Start a list, but like start a list.

NALEE 48:31

Well, I'm just saying, start a list. Okay, not really should. We have a lot of stuff that we've been wanting to talk about.

ANTHONY 48:37

Yeah, for our listeners out there, I'll like we'll I'll get an outline or something or a topic, and I'm like, we already talked about this.

NALEE 48:44

Yeah.

ANTHONY 48:44

And then you're like, oh, we did, or vice versa. And I'm like, just make a list. Put a list out there of different topics.

NALEE 48:51

Look at Anthony's. But what do I say?

ANTHONY 48:55

Failing to prepare is preparing to fail.

NALEE 48:56

You know what? It is what it is, is what it is. But okay.

ANTHONY 49:02

All right, listeners, we're gonna start talking about sleep paralysis every third week of the month. It is what it is, because it is what it is.

unknown 49:12

Okay.

NALEE 49:14

I hate you. Uh yeah, literally, yeah, pretty much. Anyways, I mean, honestly, now that we're talking about this, again, if the audience wants us to talk about it.

ANTHONY 49:26

Again, you're right. That's the problem. We're talking about it again.

NALEE 49:29

Yeah. If you guys have a specific topic you guys want us to talk about, it's your job. We are putting the responsibility on you, okay?

ANTHONY 49:38

Because I second that wholeheartedly.

NALEE 49:41

Yeah, at this point, y'all know enough to know what you want to know, to know what you want to listen to, to know what you guys want our opinions on. So let us know. I like I said, Courtney's man will not hesitate to put Little Diabetes. Little diabetes, be like little diabetes, let him be the light that leads the way to our topic. So you guys want to hear about? I don't know. But, anyways, now that Anthony rudely interrupted me, I'm gonna get back to sleep paralysis for the 80th time because it's interesting to me. I feel like sleep paralysis, although it's like a scary topic, like I said, bringing it back to like my religion, like sometimes sleep paralysis is not a good thing. Like they they associate it with like bad spirits and stuff. So, like if you constantly get sleep paralysis, you could be haunted by something. You could have what is it, you could have encountered like a negative energy or or a negative or an evil spirit or whatever. And yeah, but I just that's all I wanted to say. Like it, why are you laughing? Why are you smirking right now?

ANTHONY 50:47

Because you were talking about it, and I don't know, for some reason I just thought of the you're an SNL person, so I don't know if you if if you've seen this one, but I started thinking about the alien abductions. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

NALEE 51:00

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

ANTHONY 51:01

And then I started thinking about her being like my coop poo cooter poot and Yeah.

NALEE 51:07

She's like spreading her legs and like the jeans are like super tight on her pussy.

ANTHONY 51:11

And she's smoking the cigarettes.

NALEE 51:13

Yeah, she's just like, yeah. So that just yeah, but yeah, I mean, if you guys have had scary like sleep paralysis experiences, share them. And then again, the only the other thing that I wanted to touch on was like lucid dreaming. Like sometimes, did you know that you could train yourself to lucid dream?

ANTHONY 51:33

I did know that, and I would love to be able to do that.

NALEE 51:36

Yeah, like I'm not gonna do a plug, but I'm gonna do a low-key plug. I know there's like there's a lot of videos on TikTok that helps people like lucid dream and help them control it or whatever. But speaking on just like my own experience or my own like self, I can I can control myself when I'm sleeping though. Like I could tell that like it's a dream, and I could be like, oh, wake up or whatever, and then I would wake up. I don't know if you could do that, but no.

ANTHONY 52:04

I wish I wish that I could.

NALEE 52:06

Come over here. Let me train you.

ANTHONY 52:08

Train me.

NALEE 52:09

No.

ANTHONY 52:10

I don't know that I would ever sleep. No, maybe. I don't know. I don't know if I would like I would want to do that, but at the same time, I don't know that I would want to do that.

NALEE 52:18

Then what if you have like a really scary dream and you want to wake up and you don't wake up and then you end up dying in your dream?

ANTHONY 52:23

Am I dying in real life? Possibly. I mean, if it's my time, it's my time.

NALEE 52:27

I mean, that's what I used to say all the time too. Okay, another side tangent. Do you know what I've always wondered? And this is gonna be like, y'all already know it's gonna be a dark turn. Okay. But you know how like, you know, like when people die in their sleep, right? Mm-hmm. Do you ever wonder if it's because they died in their dream or if it's actually just them dying on the outside and then it it was during when they were sleeping?

ANTHONY 52:52

I've never wondered that, if I'm being honest with you. But now I might wonder that.

NALEE 52:56

I've always wondered that. Like I get it, like people have heart attacks, or like some people they just sleep and they just never wake up. Sometimes I wonder if they've had like a scary, fucked up dream that made them pass away. Like, wouldn't that be freaky? Like if what if like we had like a thing that could record people's dreams right before they died? I mean, that would be great. Wouldn't that be cool?

ANTHONY 53:21

That would be cool.

NALEE 53:22

I mean, that'd be really like scary too, because if it was a scary dream, it'd be scary. But like, yeah, I've always wondered that. Like, I wondered if if a person they died in their sleep, I'm always like, hmm, I wonder what they dreamt about before they died. Like, was it scary, you know?

ANTHONY 53:37

Okay, this is gonna since we're gonna be on this morbid topic now, I have a question for you.

NALEE 53:42

Okay.

ANTHONY 53:43

What do you hope your last moments are like as far as in your mind and your memory? Have you ever thought about this?

NALEE 53:51

Yeah, I've had my left my life flash before my eyes plenty of times. But if I could like assimilate memories specifically right before I die, um just the just the overall experience. Like dying?

ANTHONY 54:06

No, just like your memory.

NALEE 54:08

Like the brrrrrrr of like your memories and stuff.

ANTHONY 54:11

Yeah. And I guess I guess what I'm getting at, and the reason that where this question is stemming from is spoiler alert for anybody out there who still lives in 1976, the show This Is Us.

NALEE 54:25

Okay.

ANTHONY 54:26

Have you did you watch that?

NALEE 54:27

I have watched it, but not to the very end. Did they have a scene like that?

ANTHONY 54:31

Well, the lat I think it's the last season, the way that they simulate their mom, mom's life ending, I think was the most beautiful thing. And it it was basically her on a well, you it's you, so I'm gonna tell you anyway. Spoiler alert, people. It's her on a train, and she's going through the train cars, and every train car is a different time period of her life and a different memory.

NALEE 54:58

Oh my god, that's so beautiful. Literally, I'm gonna cry.

ANTHONY 55:01

It was so beautiful, and like that that's how I would want it for me to be for me. Is like, so when I'm on my deathbed, I just want to go through every y'all.

NALEE 55:12

I'm crying. I don't even know why. That's so pretty.

ANTHONY 55:15

The way that they did it, honestly, anybody out there, go and watch This Is Us.

NALEE 55:20

Yeah, I haven't watched the last season because I was waiting for everything to like happen. Because I think when I was watching it, it was like coming out every week. Weekly. And so, yeah, so I didn't want to watch that. Yeah. Because I was watching it while Handmaids was coming out, and then Handmaids ruined it for me because there was that whole writer's thing, and then they just stopped filming, and then when it did come out, the ending sucked ass, and it ruined everything for me. Unpopular opinion or popular opinion. Handmaids 2 was good up until everything changed pretty much. But until like the last season. But yeah, that's beautiful. I think I would kind of want it something like that too, where like it goes from the when I was little to like when I'm older and all the really good things that's happened.

ANTHONY 56:03

Relive. Yeah, relive all of the good things before moving on to what hopefully is Me becoming a bird. A final good thing, yeah. Is that what you want to be reincarnated as as a bird?

NALEE 56:16

No, I want to be a whale, but I don't know if I think we talked about this already. You were like, well, well. Have you looked at some look at yourself in the mirror?

ANTHONY 56:29

No. All I can think of is finding Mimo, where Dory's talking to the whale.

NALEE 56:35

She's like, Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I think like whales are like my favorite animals. I think they're just so majestic. There's so much we don't know about them. They're fucking ginormous, and they're old and they've gone through like so much that we don't even know. And they're still alive. I think that's what makes it so beautiful. That that that's why I like whales.

ANTHONY 57:00

Yeah.

NALEE 57:01

But if I could come back as anything, and I know we talked about this. Yes, I want to become I want to come back as a whale. I think you said you wanted to be a turtle.

ANTHONY 57:10

Oh, a turtle.

NALEE 57:11

I think you said a turtle or a bird or something like that.

ANTHONY 57:14

I I would either want to be a bird or a s like sea animal.

NALEE 57:19

Yeah.

ANTHONY 57:20

Yeah.

NALEE 57:20

But this took a turn.

ANTHONY 57:22

A sea turtle would be, yeah.

unknown 57:24

Yeah.

ANTHONY 57:24

Anyways, wait, we were talking about sleep paralysis and well, we're talking about lucid dreaming and controlling them.

NALEE 57:32

But but I had one interesting fact though, that is like side tangent before we move on to the next one. So nightmares, did you know that nightmares actually help with emotional processing? Or it may help with emotional processing?

ANTHONY 57:46

I did not know that. However, I do feel like that makes sense.

NALEE 57:49

Yeah, because some psychologists think that nightmares are part of the brain's attempt to process fear and unresolved stress. That's why recurrent nightmares are often linked to trauma, anxiety, or major life changes. The only reason why I said that was because my dad recently went into the hospital. He's out now, but he had like, I think I talked to you about it, he had like recent scare. And then at the time, like didn't like very I didn't really I didn't process it well, I guess. I was just like, oh, okay, he's in the hospital. I was a little upset about how it happened, but then like a couple days later, I had like this really bad nightmare. Um and I'm gonna tell you guys about it because now we've talked about it and I'm gonna open the can of worms and we've tangent for the 80th time in this episode, so why not do another one? I had a dream that my siblings, we were looking for my dad, and then we couldn't find him, and then all of a sudden he came we found out that he died, and then he came back as an RV, like the car RV. And yeah, it's really weird. Don't judge me. But, anyways, he came back as an RV, and then we we ended up like moving into the RV, and then the RV became haunted, and we didn't know why it was like we didn't know my dad was the RV that was haunting us, so we didn't know my dad came back as an RV. But, anyways, we lived in this RV and it was haunted, and there was like a whole bunch of strange stuff that started happening, and we were like, you know what's weird? Like, you know, ever since dad passed away and we had to move into this RV, like a lot of weird, scary shit has been happening. Like, maybe we should look into it. And so then I went to the police station and I was like, hey, like, you know, my dad died, and we just never like we heard that he passed away, but we never figured out how he died. And so then the guy in my dreams, he was like, Oh, well, we have this case file. There was this accident that happened that nobody nobody solved, but it's like a cold case. And so I looked at it, and then in my dream at the end, it turned out that my dad in the dream, he actually got into a car. I'm gonna end up crying, but I was like super sad because I dreamed that he actually got into a car accident and an RV was what hit him. And so then he had fell off like the the side of the route, the the road, and then he like was all by himself and he passed away in the car and he was all by himself, and so then that's why he came back as an RV. But like it's also like a really stupid dream. I don't know why I cried, but still, but like I was like really, really sad. I it was like a nightmare, and it was also like a sad dream. But then, like, at that time, like when I was telling like my friend about this dream, he was like, Well, it could have been like repressed stress from whatever happened to your dad. And I'm like, Oh yeah, like that makes sense, I guess, you know. But that was it. That was my side tangent. Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:00:52

I don't think that sounded like a stupid dream. I think it sounded more like a very symbolic dream where clearly there was something that needed to be, you know, addressed.

NALEE 1:01:02

Well, you laughing as my dad coming back as an RV was what made it was a stupid dream.

ANTHONY 1:01:10

No, because when he said he came back as an RV, all I could think of was like my first thought was was this bot was this bitch watching cars before she went to bed?

NALEE 1:01:18

Yeah, yeah, no, literally. You were? No, no, no, no. Oh, I was like, well, then that fucking there's your fucking answer. No, I wasn't, but it was funny because that's what I was associating my dream with too. Because I was like, was I thinking about cars or something? But I probably was because of another reason. But anyways, yeah, and so that was all I wanted to talk about was that dreams mean more than what we think.

ANTHONY 1:01:43

I totally believe that dreams mean more than what we think. And I don't think that I think there's always hidden meanings to the dreams that we have.

NALEE 1:01:50

Yeah, for sure. All right, did you have anything else to add to this before we move on?

ANTHONY 1:01:54

No, ma'am.

NALEE 1:01:56

Okay, well, our second segment is ghosts, spirits, and creepy internet lore. Now we are entering the category where I absolutely cannot think about this before bed because you already know. Well, maybe I will because I like scary shit. But still, we talk about ghost spirits and all the above.

ANTHONY 1:02:17

You a little baby when it comes to scary shit.

NALEE 1:02:19

Not even. I love scary movies. Remember, I told you. And you by yourself? Yeah. I literally watched Insidious like

Ghosts Kids And Past Life Memories

NALEE 1:02:27

the whole, the whole like series by myself. What? Alone in the house. Yeah. And I wasn't even scared.

ANTHONY 1:02:33

I feel like I remember you saying that you have to have somebody there to like Not me.

NALEE 1:02:38

Couldn't be me.

ANTHONY 1:02:39

Alright. Well, you do you, bitch, but ghost conspiracies are terrifying for everyone.

NALEE 1:02:45

Exactly. Even people who don't believe in ghosts always say stuff like, but one time And then suddenly they're describing the scariest thing you've ever heard.

ANTHONY 1:02:54

Like s witnessing your uncle dying.

NALEE 1:02:59

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:03:00

In a dream.

NALEE 1:03:01

His dream was pretty sad too, but anyways, we can go about that. Let's talk about your topics. What are your topics? What do you want to talk about?

ANTHONY 1:03:09

Well, I suppose we could talk about. Why are you laughing?

unknown 1:03:15

Yes.

NALEE 1:03:16

We're talking about sleep paralysis for the 80th time.

ANTHONY 1:03:19

No, we're not gonna talk about sleep paralysis. I did want to talk about sleep paralysis, but we're kind of like.

NALEE 1:03:25

Yeah, I'm only laughing because that was actually one of Anthony's topics. So, but he ain't gonna talk about that. But anyways, I mean, I I would love for you to talk about sleep paralysis. You have some very interesting topics.

ANTHONY 1:03:37

I don't want to talk about it anymore.

NALEE 1:03:38

Wow. Okay. All right, what if you're gonna be? Sorry.

ANTHONY 1:03:45

Well, let's talk about the obvious. Why do humans like paranormal stories? Did we talk about this already? I don't think so, did we?

NALEE 1:03:54

I have no clue. I think we may have talked about it during like our Halloween episodes.

ANTHONY 1:03:57

But I think Yeah, I feel like we may have touched on it.

NALEE 1:04:00

I think the reason why humans like paranormal stuff is because, like, I don't know. For me, I'm just gonna speak on my behalf and you guys could judge me. It's gonna always come back to me. Yeah, you guys, it's gonna always come back to me. But you guys can judge me and call me weird or whatever, but I'm gonna tell you guys one of my biggest secrets, okay, as to why I love horror or scary stuff is because it turns me on.

ANTHONY 1:04:25

You've told us this before.

NALEE 1:04:27

Have I?

ANTHONY 1:04:28

Yes. You get excited.

NALEE 1:04:31

Yeah, okay. Well, I have actually okay. Well, it's not a secret anymore. But still, like for me, the reason why I love it is because there's that agent adrenaline rush, and then like you're close to somebody or you're like cuddling with somebody, and then, you know, yeah, we did talk about it actually. It turns into that, right? Okay. Well, anyways, I forgot about that. But I think people like it for the adrenaline part of it, where like they're like, ooh, like what's gonna happen next? Or it's the unpredictableness of the scare. What do you think?

ANTHONY 1:05:02

Okay, I I like the way I like what you said. Part of me agrees, but a bigger part of me thinks that people are attracted to paranormal because they can they don't know. They don't there's no way to explain certain things. It's like that story that I told about the quarter being thrown into the shower.

NALEE 1:05:27

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:05:27

Like, if you can't explain it, it just opens up all these things for you to be like, to try and justify and to try and explain it.

NALEE 1:05:38

You know what? I'm gonna therapise it for two seconds.

ANTHONY 1:05:43

Are you therapizing it or are you therapizing me?

NALEE 1:05:46

I'm therapizing the situation at hand, the scenario, the reason why people love and and I agree with you. I think it's also like, I guess to piggyback on what you said, where you said it's because It's the unpredictability of it or the unknown.

ANTHONY 1:06:02

The unknown. That's what yeah.

NALEE 1:06:04

And for me, what I wanted to add on to that is because I think humans, we like control. We like to know what's going on. And because we can't control it, it becomes ambiguous for us. And ambiguiti ambiguity? Ambiguity, how we say it.

ANTHONY 1:06:20

You're using big words. Okay.

NALEE 1:06:22

But that is like people love that. Like the mystery. People love mystery because they don't know. They can't control it.

ANTHONY 1:06:29

Yeah.

NALEE 1:06:29

So yeah. It all comes back down to control. Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:06:32

I agree with that.

NALEE 1:06:33

Meep, meet, meh, meh, meh, meh. Do you what is that supposed to be?

ANTHONY 1:06:39

I have no idea.

NALEE 1:06:40

A warm?

ANTHONY 1:06:42

I'm doing my finger exercises.

NALEE 1:06:44

Doesn't it look like wavy? Does it look smooth?

ANTHONY 1:06:47

It looks more smooth than I would expect it to be.

NALEE 1:06:50

Alright?

ANTHONY 1:06:51

I can't.

NALEE 1:06:52

It looks it looks smooth.

ANTHONY 1:06:54

Did you ever get your aura ring?

NALEE 1:06:56

I did not.

ANTHONY 1:06:57

Did you ever email?

NALEE 1:06:58

I did. HR told me to email Aura, but I'm like, girl, I have to get on top of that. I don't know.

ANTHONY 1:07:04

Girl, I don't know what you're waiting for. But anyway.

NALEE 1:07:07

I'm waiting for a sunny day, Tika. I feel like sunny day.

ANTHONY 1:07:13

What's the scariest internet story you remember hearing?

NALEE 1:07:18

I already told you guys. Room 126.

ANTHONY 1:07:20

A drink. Refresh my drink.

NALEE 1:07:22

The one where they put the eye in the keyhole. And then it's red. That shit fucked me up so hard. What about you?

ANTHONY 1:07:30

I already told you mine. Except it wasn't really an internet story when I I mean I'm sure it was, but like the whole killer in the backseat.

NALEE 1:07:39

That urban legend.

ANTHONY 1:07:40

Yeah, I get a little. I can scare myself if I'm like out at night walking at night, especially in the fall.

NALEE 1:07:48

Okay, I have a question for you now that we're talking about this. What is the worst case scenario for you that will scare the living hell out of you?

ANTHONY 1:07:55

Well, I'm not gonna tell you that because I feel like you're gonna set something up to try to give me a heart attack and like I'm already on blood pressure medication, bitch. I I got a weak heart.

NALEE 1:08:05

I'm only asking because I wanna know. But, anyways, okay like I want to know what your scariest, like what the most scary scenario for you is. I just want to know.

ANTHONY 1:08:16

I don't know how to answer that because I feel like I enjoy scary movies and I like scary shows.

NALEE 1:08:23

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:08:24

But to actually experience something is a little bit different because, like, I mean, I feel like we've had this conversation before, but I ain't a runner, so I'm not gonna be outrunning nobody. So I'm just gonna lay there and be like, get it over with.

NALEE 1:08:37

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:08:37

Like, but then again, I also wonder if like that whole, like I mentioned earlier, that innate human or that like desire, that will to survive would kick in and like all of a sudden I'm fucking running a marathon.

NALEE 1:08:51

Yeah. Now you probably could. Skinny mini over there.

ANTHONY 1:08:54

You probably skinny mini, I stuck out weak ass lungs. I don't do shit. Yeah, I don't know. That's a really good question.

NALEE 1:09:00

Interesting.

ANTHONY 1:09:01

What's yours?

NALEE 1:09:02

Mine would be probably We're not even talking conspiracies anymore. Yeah. But that's okay. Welcome to Twin Tangents because therapy was booked. Nothing's ever on topic, and we are always on brand. Here we go. But, anyways, it would be for me like the worst case scenario that probably would scare me and traumatize me for the rest of my life, would probably be locked in a tight space in the dark with no sound. That would probably scare me a lot.

ANTHONY 1:09:33

Okay, that's a really big fear of mine.

NALEE 1:09:35

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:09:37

Like, I don't remember where it was, but like on one of the cruises that I went on, I was looking at excursions and they have one where you go through caves. And like some of those spots were like tight, and like just thinking about like trying to fit through there, and if I didn't and I got stuck, like if you're stuck between these huge fucking stone mountains, what are the what are they gonna do to get you out? I mean, yeah. Are they gonna chip the rock or something? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that it that would be scary.

NALEE 1:10:13

Yeah, that would be that's probably that's probably w one thing that would probably traumatize me for life if that happened to me.

ANTHONY 1:10:22

I just saw on TikTok, and I f have a feeling that you have a topic about this that you want to talk about later, but I could not tell if it was AI or not. But essentially it was a quote unquote like carnival ride. And these two girls, they went and they stood up, and this thing like comes down and covers them, and then another layer comes down and covers them, and it almost like vacuum seals them in a bag. And the whole point of it is to simulate like asphyxiation, like you're being suffocated.

NALEE 1:10:57

Who wants to do that? Fucking thank you.

ANTHONY 1:11:01

I was like, You want to do it a little bit differently, but yeah, exactly.

NALEE 1:11:05

Um I had to correct myself there.

ANTHONY 1:11:07

But it made me think, it was like, yeah, I why would you do that? And apparently it it stays on you for 12 seconds. But like hard pass. No thank you.

NALEE 1:11:18

That's a long time. 12 seconds.

ANTHONY 1:11:20

It is a long time.

NALEE 1:11:21

One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve. That's a long time.

ANTHONY 1:11:31

Hold hold your breath for 12 seconds, but then like Okay, ready, ready, ready?

NALEE 1:11:34

One, two, three, go. It's not that long. Never mind.

ANTHONY 1:11:44

But, okay, think about it from this standpoint. If somebody were to come up behind you and like put a bag over your head, aside from just panic. Exactly. Yeah, you're panicking, your heart's racing, what's going on? You're trying to figure out what do I do?

NALEE 1:12:00

Yeah. Who would do that? Why would that be a ride? What the fuck? I don't know.

ANTHONY 1:12:04

Well, it wasn't like a ride ride, but it was like a I don't know.

NALEE 1:12:08

I feel like that would be AI though.

ANTHONY 1:12:10

Maybe. Who knows?

NALEE 1:12:11

Yeah. Why else do humans love paranormal stories?

ANTHONY 1:12:16

Yeah. I think the biggest thing, the bottom line with why humans love things like this is I think it's I think it's just the we're I think we're naturally drawn to the unknown and like wanting to try to understand and wanting to try to ex be able to explain things.

NALEE 1:12:36

Okay. Do you have anything else to add to that?

ANTHONY 1:12:38

Nope, that's it. Did you have anything you wanted to add to that?

NALEE 1:12:43

Not really. But I will say though, I love the scary TikTok, like TikTok pages where they show you like scary stuff. I mean, even though sometimes it could be AI, but it's still scary.

ANTHONY 1:12:54

Okay. I have one thing that I want to say with regards to TikTok.

NALEE 1:12:57

Okay.

ANTHONY 1:12:58

That's kind of related to scary, not so much the unknown. The stupidest fucking trend that's going on TikTok, one of them right now, is have you seen these videos where people like hide in the back seat and then wait for you haven't seen this? They'll like wait for like their friend or their boyfriend or their wife or their girlfriend or whatever to get in the car and start driving. Like I just watched one where a guy either called or texted, texted his his wife and was like, Oh, I have I put all the Halloween decorations in the car. You have to take them to storage. And it was like, I don't know, Michael Myers or some shit. I had like three Michael Myers, and like one of them was the husband. And so he sat in the backseat behind the driver's seat with the Michael Myers outfit on.

NALEE 1:13:45

Hell no.

ANTHONY 1:13:46

Pretending to be a mannequin, and then waited till she was driving, and then when she wasn't looking, he would like turn on the Chucky doll, or yeah, or like move, or like, and or those people that will like sit in the backseat, wait till somebody gets in, and then they'll like jump out and scare them. And I'm like, you fucking dumb. I watched one where somebody was like literally driving the car. You could see the background like moving, and this person jumps out of the backseat to scare them.

NALEE 1:14:15

I'm like, dead. Both of them dead.

ANTHONY 1:14:17

You are waiting for a fucking accident.

NALEE 1:14:20

Yeah, literally. I think if it wasn't one of those situations, I would be pretty scared though. Like I I would like to think that I have like fast instincts or fast like reactions.

ANTHONY 1:14:32

We all like to think like that. Yeah.

NALEE 1:14:34

Yeah. But yeah, I think that would kind of fuck me up a little bit.

ANTHONY 1:14:39

You automatically go into panic mode. You're yeah, like you like what the fuck? Because I'm like you. I'm like the same thing. Like I like to think that if I think about things like, okay, if this were to happen to me, what would I do? But then if that were to actually happen to me, everything's out of my mind. Like I always think if somebody were to come up behind me and put like a plastic bag over my head and try to suffocate me, my first thing would be, okay, I'm gonna use my finger to like put a hole. Yeah.

NALEE 1:15:07

That's such a good idea. I never thought of that.

ANTHONY 1:15:10

But in the adrenaline, you're not gonna think like that.

NALEE 1:15:12

You're just like, yeah. That's so smart. I thought you were gonna like elbow the person or like poke their eyes out or something. But you know what? Poke a hole and save yourself first.

ANTHONY 1:15:27

I always wonder that. I always wonder that watching like TV shows and they're like suffocating some memory. You got plastic. It's plastic. Poke a hole. What the hell are y'all doing?

NALEE 1:15:37

For real. Poke a hole. Save yourself first.

ANTHONY 1:15:41

Exactly. Put your own mask.

NALEE 1:15:43

Exactly. Um put your own mask first. Stuart.

ANTHONY 1:15:47

Yeah.

NALEE 1:15:47

Good idea. Something just clicked in my head. You know what? Thank you for that. You just saved lives.

ANTHONY 1:15:53

Well, hopefully, right if you remember it.

NALEE 1:15:57

Yeah, guys. Leave it up to Anthony to save us for getting kidnapped and getting bags over our heads. Poke a hole.

ANTHONY 1:16:04

If you ever are in a ravine in your vehicle and you can't roll down the windows and you can't open the car doors, do you know what you're supposed to do? You take out, you're supposed to take out your headrest and the two metal prongs from the headrest. You use that to hit the window.

NALEE 1:16:19

You're so smart. What else? What else? Tell us more. I'm interested now.

ANTHONY 1:16:24

Another thing you could do is you could just go to like Amazon and buy one of those little keychain things that like will bust out your window.

NALEE 1:16:32

But what if your keychain is like over there and your headrest flew off?

ANTHONY 1:16:35

Okay, so you could always buy one. And I've thought about this too, is getting, I'm pretty sure you can buy them. I'm pretty sure they exist. Those things that will like you can put on your seatbelt. Because that's another thing I always get worried about. Like if something were to happen and I can't undo my seatbelt, I don't have any, I don't have anything in my car that I could like slice my seatbelt easily. But I'm pretty sure they make something that you can like clip on that's just like right there, that you can just slice your seatbelt to get out.

NALEE 1:17:02

Look at you, saving lives one at a time.

ANTHONY 1:17:05

It's my anxiety. Okay, Christina. I see. What if something were to happen?

NALEE 1:17:09

This Christina Yang is prepared.

ANTHONY 1:17:12

Yeah. I like to be prepared for things.

NALEE 1:17:14

Love that.

ANTHONY 1:17:15

And I like to be prepared for the unknown. I can't always obviously I can't prepare for everything, but Okay.

NALEE 1:17:20

Okay. I see you.

ANTHONY 1:17:22

These are the things that keep me up till 2 a.m. thinking about like, okay, if I were to drive into a ravine and fall off a bridge, like how am I gonna get out of here?

NALEE 1:17:32

I need to start thinking about more important things then, if that's the case, because clearly I don't think about that. I'm always like, what am I gonna eat tomorrow? What I do today, did I do anything good today? Did I do it? Was I better than myself yesterday? Not saving myself though. I feel like with me, I know that death is everywhere. It's inevitable for me. I could step outside and trip down the stairs and it is what it is, is what it is, you know? But I gotta make sure that even though it's my time to go, did I eat something good before I died? You know? Or like did I did I get cracked really good before I died or something? You know what I mean?

ANTHONY 1:18:10

We'll have to do an episode and discuss things, but like death is my number one fear.

NALEE 1:18:15

Is it?

ANTHONY 1:18:16

Yeah.

NALEE 1:18:16

Spiders are my number one fear. Fuck that.

ANTHONY 1:18:19

The inevitable, and it's my number one fear.

NALEE 1:18:22

Okay. I'm gonna note that down. Death.

ANTHONY 1:18:25

Death. Don't do an episode on it.

NALEE 1:18:30

Why? That'd be fun.

ANTHONY 1:18:32

Okay, I'll take a Xanax beforehand.

NALEE 1:18:35

You're gonna be scared. No, I don't get scared, but like if if I'm we could talk about the scariest ways that people have died.

ANTHONY 1:18:45

If I think about it too long, I'll go into a full-blown like panic attack.

NALEE 1:18:49

Okay, maybe we don't want you to go into a panic attack. Because you Okay, so I'll table that. We'll table that. Okay. Do you have anything else you wanted to add onto this topic?

ANTHONY 1:18:59

No. What did you want to talk about for this segment?

NALEE 1:19:02

Okay, well, I want to talk about two things really quick.

ANTHONY 1:19:04

Okay.

NALEE 1:19:05

First one is I think we talked about it already, but children seeing ghosts. Like, y'all already know me. Again, I love the paranormal. I love everything scary. But nothing scares me more than like little kids fucking like doing things that are like fucked up. Like when they're like, oh, there's an old lady in your bedroom that's been there for since we moved here. Or I'm talking to my imaginary friend, which where the fuck is your imaginary friend? When you're having like a full-on. But the thing that scares me is like sometimes kids have like a full-on conversation. You know what I mean? Like, what the fuck? Like that's scary. Yeah?

ANTHONY 1:19:51

Excuse me. You you think them having an imaginary friend is scary?

NALEE 1:19:55

Kinda. When they're having like a full-on conversation with them. You don't think that's scary? Like a kid sitting at the corner and he's talking to himself and he's waiting for a response and then he responds. Like, you don't think that's scary?

ANTHONY 1:20:07

I don't find that that scary, no.

NALEE 1:20:10

Interesting.

ANTHONY 1:20:10

But what I do find scary are kids who are seeing things that aren't there.

NALEE 1:20:16

That's literally seeing imaginary friends. See, I disagree.

ANTHONY 1:20:20

I just I feel like it's n like if I feel like it's normal for kids to have imaginary friends, but there's a difference between having an imaginary friend that you're, you know, playing hide and seek with or having a conversation with versus a kid who's saying, you know, they're tucked in in bed and they're like, that guy keeps poking out his head out of the closet.

NALEE 1:20:45

And is watching me.

ANTHONY 1:20:48

And then what I find what I find even scarier is, and I'm pretty sure if you look this up, this is a true story. Okay. There was a kid, and this has happened on multiple accounts, but there was a kid who, and this kind of goes back into our conversation from reincarnation. There was a kid who swears he was Princess Diana in another life, and he like he recalls the whole car accident in the tunnel and when she died, and like can recall like her last moments. That's fucking scary. That's where I get scared. Like That's one of the things that I was gonna talk about. A two-year-old or a three-year-old, four-year-old, whatever, who doesn't know the story about Princess Diana or you know, somebody who died, like, and they're recalling details of being there.

NALEE 1:21:39

That's that's insane.

ANTHONY 1:21:40

That's fucking scary.

NALEE 1:21:42

Yeah. Yeah, like the past life memory stuff is pretty scary. Like a lot of like reincarnation stories are from like children who talk about like their former lives around like six or seven, maybe. I think that's like the most recorded age that kids start talking about like their past memories and stuff, which can be very jarring and scary though. Cause it's just like, like you said, they know nothing about it. How the fuck did you come up with this information? You know what I mean?

ANTHONY 1:22:11

Yeah.

NALEE 1:22:13

Yeah, that's pretty creepy.

ANTHONY 1:22:15

So I just I just looked up that kid. So how old is he now? I don't know how old he is now or when this is from exactly, and I'm not gonna like dig too deep into it, but there was a widely discussed story about a young Australian boy named Billy Campbell who claimed he had memories connected to Diana, Princess of Wales, and some people interpreted it as a possible evidence of reincarnation. Billy is the son of an Australian TV personality. According to his father, Billy began making unusual statements around the age two, including pointing out a photo of Diana and saying, That's me when I was a princess, mentioning details about the Balmoral Castle, referencing Diana's brother John, which apparently was a lesser-known detail since Diana had a brother named John who died shortly after birth.

NALEE 1:23:15

Crazy.

ANTHONY 1:23:16

Describing sirens and no longer being a princess, interpreted as referring to Diana's fatal car crash in Paris.

NALEE 1:23:24

Damn, that's fucking crazy.

ANTHONY 1:23:27

Two years old. Like that's the kind of shit that fucking scares me. That's scary. Okay. Now, a kid having a conversation with his with her best friend and they're having a tea party, have your tea and crumpets. I don't give a shit. Oh my god. Then when I tuck you in and I say goodnight, and then 20 minutes later I hear you talking to somebody in a closet. Yeah.

NALEE 1:23:48

Scary. Hell no. You know, the reason why I feel like it's so scary to me though is because I have a lot of nieces and nephews, and it could, it could honestly happen real time. That's why it creeps the shit out of me. Because I've had instances like that, and I've told you guys about it before, but I don't know. I feel like kids, they're they just have like there's this thing where like they they just have an open window to like spirituality and stuff like that, and to spirits and ghosts and stuff. And I think that when it comes to like kids and stuff, they're just very sensitive to that. I don't know, it's it just creeps me out, but I'm also like fascinated by it.

ANTHONY 1:24:26

It's very fascinating. And I okay, so for truth telling, I do have a I do believe that I mean you said it, kids have a window to other paranormal whatever. And this is how I justify it. So going back to what we had discussed earlier in the episode was, you know, the unknown, paranormal spirits and things. There's a certain age that we become a little bit more cognizant of things, right? So I don't know about you, but like my earliest memory, I would say, would be when I was four. I can't remember anything prior to four years old.

NALEE 1:25:17

Interesting.

ANTHONY 1:25:18

So I think that that is from for me personally, from birth to four, that was when that that window was open and I was able to see things that adults and other people couldn't. It's not that I mean, I don't know. I I feel like that is a very feasible thing to interpret and to think of. And there are plenty of stories that even people, you know, who may have been on their deathbed, that window opens back up and they're able to see things because there are stories that people are seeing loved ones before they cross over, or and it's just one of those stories.

NALEE 1:26:02

Creepy stuff too. Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:26:04

Unknown. Yeah.

NALEE 1:26:05

I wanted to talk back about, I'll go back to one of the stuff that we're talking about. Did you ever have like, do you ever remember having like an imaginary friend? You do?

ANTHONY 1:26:13

Mm-hmm.

NALEE 1:26:15

Ew. Did you see anybody or did you make the person up?

ANTHONY 1:26:19

I mean, now looking back, I think I I would say that I made them up. And that's why I was saying before, I was like, that's why somebody having a tea party with their imaginary friend, and maybe it I just think of it that way because yes, I had an imaginary friend as a child.

NALEE 1:26:37

Okay. That makes sense.

ANTHONY 1:26:40

Did you not have an imaginary friend?

NALEE 1:26:42

Hell no. And if I did, it was not imaginary. It was real life. Hell no. I could never. Couldn't be me. Couldn't be me. Nope. I'm not that imaginary. Imaginary imaginatively gifted. No. No, thank you.

ANTHONY 1:26:57

Is that being imaginatively gifted or is it just a matter of being lonely?

NALEE 1:27:02

Psychotic? Lonely. Same thing.

ANTHONY 1:27:04

Not psychotic. I said lonely. I'm not psychotic. Well, I'm really still out, I guess.

NALEE 1:27:08

I don't think it's lonely. I think it's just, I mean, I would have hoped that I had an imaginary friend, because I feel like you would have to be very like creative and like to, you know, talk about things and do things, but it's really you're doing it by yourself, or is it really by yourself? But like, you know, you have to have some kind of like, I feel like some kind of level of creativity to be able to even have an imaginary friend. You know what I mean? Because you can't, you have to be the reason why I say that is because when you have imaginary friends, you like come up with fake conversations or like you come up with face fake scenarios to do things like, oh, my imaginary friend pushed me down the stairs or whatever. But I don't know what I'm going with this, but I feel like kids who have imaginary Friends, they're usually more creative compared to kids who don't. Because kids who don't, they're just like, Oh, I need real people in order for me to like interact, in order for me to come up with situations. But with kids who have imaginary friends, they're imagining coming up, creating these scenarios with their fake imaginary creative friend. You know what I mean?

ANTHONY 1:28:21

Yes.

NALEE 1:28:23

Which I again, I probably worded it weird, but you know what I mean.

ANTHONY 1:28:27

I know what you mean, and that makes sense. But I guess I'm a little stunned that that's coming from you.

NALEE 1:28:35

Why?

ANTHONY 1:28:36

Because I feel like you're you did theater, right?

NALEE 1:28:39

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:28:39

So I feel like it's the it's literally the exact same thing. It's like theater and improv. And that I mean, that's really all having an imaginary friend is, is improv. Like, oh, do you want to have a tea party? Oh, would you like some cream in that? Like it's just improv and making things up as you go along and creating some sort of, you know, relationship and making things what point does that become a lot of people. I see what you're saying though.

NALEE 1:29:08

At what point does that become psycho psych like psychologically like damaging? Yeah. You know what I mean? Like I love improv, don't get me wrong, but at what point does it become like, bitch, you psychotic actually? Not not a theater kid, not improv, you actually psychotic. Which I guess is a conversation in its own, but still.

ANTHONY 1:29:30

Well, I feel like it's one of those things where it it's normal for kids to have an imaginary friend.

NALEE 1:29:39

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:29:39

But I think that there's a certain point that if that imaginary friend continues on, then it's time to see a professional.

NALEE 1:29:46

Then it's time for therapy, bitch.

ANTHONY 1:29:48

What?

NALEE 1:29:48

Okay. I said then it's time for therapy, bitch.

ANTHONY 1:29:51

Yeah. And medication.

NALEE 1:29:53

Yes. Okay.

ANTHONY 1:29:55

And with that, have you ever seen the movie Drop Dead Fred?

NALEE 1:29:59

No.

ANTHONY 1:30:00

Bitch.

NALEE 1:30:00

You should already know.

ANTHONY 1:30:02

Oh my god. Drop Dead Fred is an amazing movie. I'm gonna find a clip of it and send it to you.

NALEE 1:30:09

Okay, do it.

ANTHONY 1:30:09

It's it was one of my favorite movies growing up, and it was about a little girl who had an imaginary friend, and she Fred, his name was Fred.

NALEE 1:30:18

It sounds familiar, honestly. It sounds like really familiar. Send it. Maybe I'll watch it.

ANTHONY 1:30:23

Yeah. Well, I don't I don't even know where I hold on.

NALEE 1:30:26

Quick question. Does it become a romantic movie? Like, is it a romance movie?

ANTHONY 1:30:30

No. Okay, then I remember it's a comedy movie because he's like he's her imaginary friend. And again, she got to an age where she shouldn't have an imaginary friend, so she had to go to a therapist and they put her on medication.

NALEE 1:30:42

Okay.

ANTHONY 1:30:42

And then at some point, I don't remember if she's just stopped taking it or something, but Fred returned as she's an adult now, and Fred returns, and he just like wreaks havoc, and she starts having these conversations and do having these doing these things with Fred, but it's she's just crazy, essentially. I don't I I wouldn't maybe I should watch the movie now as an adult and see if I would describe her as crazy, but I don't know that I would describe her as crazy.

NALEE 1:31:11

Okay. All right. Well, I mean, other than that, other than uh drop dead Fred or whatever the movie's called, do you have anything else to add to this topic?

ANTHONY 1:31:21

Remind me again what was the topic?

NALEE 1:31:23

Children seeing ghosts and imaginary friends.

ANTHONY 1:31:26

The last thing that I want to admit to that is imaginary friends are okay up to a certain age. Children seeing ghosts and recalling things from past life, that's a hard pass for me. No, thank you. Interesting. Just a real quick note. Yeah, nope. Keep your child far away from me. Keep moving.

NALEE 1:31:46

Yeah. All right. Well, that was it for my topics. Did you want to introduce our third segment?

ANTHONY 1:31:52

Move on to our third and final segment. How the internet is making everybody delusional. The craziest part is about conspiracy theories.

NALEE 1:32:02

It's how fast the internet can provide convinced. Y'all, bitch, I'm done. This is how you know we come into the end of a full-on episode. Anyways, it's how fast the internet can convince people of literally anything.

ANTHONY 1:32:19

Anything. Like if someone whispers over creepy music with captions

AI Deepfakes And Fake Evidence

ANTHONY 1:32:23

in all caps.

NALEE 1:32:24

Immediate credibility.

ANTHONY 1:32:26

We believe them. Suddenly I end up questioning reality because a guy named Cosmic Truth 99 posted a slideshow and I went down the fucking rabbit hole.

NALEE 1:32:37

Period. All right. Well, my topic, I only had one topic here that I wanted to talk about, which is AI feeling fake evidence. So, Anthony, I know you mentioned this earlier about like the AI video, but it's insane how good AI is nowadays. It is insane. And insane. But I will say though, if you were a real G, you could tell what's different between AI and what's not AI. That I will give to you. If you can't, then you ain't a real G. And I'm only saying this, I'm only saying this because I'm putting Polly on the spot. Okay. Because this bitch, like, she goes on Facebook and she would send me these videos and she's like, dude, like, is this real? Like, whatever. I'm like, bitch, it's clearly AI. And just to pick on her one more time, because you guys know how much I love picking on her. She originally thought AI was IA. So she was like, What is this IA doing? Like, can you tell if this is IA or not? And I'm like, what do you mean IA? And I'm like, you mean AI? And she's like, oh, yeah, AI. So I always make fun of her whenever she talks about like AI shit. And my dad, too. Sometimes he would be like watching stuff and he'd be like so passionate about it. And I'd be like, Dad, it's fake. Like, it ain't real. And you could clearly tell it's not real. But, anyways, it's my dad. But yeah, like the fact that AI is insanely good is insanely scary.

ANTHONY 1:34:05

It is so fucking scary how well AI has progressed. And I know that I feel like AI has been around for a while, but I feel like it's really become more prominent the last few years.

NALEE 1:34:20

I wouldn't even say a few years. I would say within the last year, like the the transition between like I don't know. Like it's just been really like really good. In everything. Yeah. Like even half, I would say half of the shit on my feed, you could tell it's AI. Like, you know how like there's a video of a girl talking about relationships and stuff. You could clearly tell she's AI by the her voice, how like her mouth moves. But at the same time, if you're not very like exposed to it, you would think that it's real, you know? Which is insane to me.

ANTHONY 1:34:55

I feel like it's easier to spot AI things when it's like the girl that you were just talking about, like just a random person.

unknown 1:35:04

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:35:04

But some of the AI things of like celebrities, I feel like some of them are a little bit more difficult to really spot.

NALEE 1:35:11

What do you mean?

ANTHONY 1:35:12

Like, like sometimes I feel like it's easier to spot an AI video of some random blonde running on a beach, whereas, okay, there's a video of Scarlett Johansson running on the beach. If that makes sense.

NALEE 1:35:28

Like I just another thing, I would say the other thing too is that like, you know how like there is those voice generators AI where like you could put your voice and then it'll sing in your voice. Like, that's insane to me on how accurate it is.

ANTHONY 1:35:41

Like scary.

NALEE 1:35:43

Yeah. I think that's kind of like the first time I got exposed to like advanced AI, I would say. Did you do something like that? I didn't do it, but I heard it. It was like we're gonna talk about Kanye, but there was this clip where Kanye was singing, and he doesn't sing, he's a rapper. If you guys know Kanye, he's he's a crazy man, but I I don't know, I fucking love Kanye too. But, anyways, he it was like this AI thing where you could put his voice on a song and he would sing the song in his voice, and it was like, it was legit. Like it literally sounds like him. And that's when I was like, whoa, this is this is really scary.

ANTHONY 1:36:24

Yeah.

NALEE 1:36:25

So to me, I was just like, the world is becoming a scary place.

ANTHONY 1:36:30

The real I I think what's even worse with the whole AI thing is that there's really not much like regulate it's not really regulated.

NALEE 1:36:42

Not even.

ANTHONY 1:36:42

So there's no like protections for anything. And then didn't we talk about this before? There was like I saw on the news that there was a woman whose kid was like using AI and like it asked the kid to do something, or like I was basically like AI was telling the kid to like how to kill themselves. The fuck? It's just it's just scary, and I just personally I feel like we're going down a very slippery slope with this whole AI thing, especially with the fact that it's not regulated.

NALEE 1:37:11

Yeah, that's scary.

ANTHONY 1:37:13

But I mean, what's to stop somebody from like duh?

NALEE 1:37:16

If that's real, that's scary.

ANTHONY 1:37:19

What's to stop somebody from like taking one of our podcasts episodes, getting likeness of our voice and like using it for something? You know what I mean? I don't know.

NALEE 1:37:32

I mean, look, see, I'd be proud. I'd be proud. I mean, like, y'all like my voice. It is what it is. But to change that into something else, that's kind of fucked up though.

ANTHONY 1:37:42

Yeah.

NALEE 1:37:43

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:37:44

Yeah. No, it's a no for me. It's don't get me wrong. I think that AI probably I I I know I'm getting way off topic from what you were going for with this. But like, AI has positive things, contributions. But it does, yeah. It needs to be uh regulated.

NALEE 1:38:03

Tell me that I'm wrong though. The reason why we have AI, bitch. The reason why we have AI though, I bet is like obviously for porn use and for like animated films and stuff like that.

ANTHONY 1:38:14

You're wrong.

NALEE 1:38:14

Okay. Never mind. What is it used for?

ANTHONY 1:38:16

Well, I mean, it is used for those things, but I don't think that that's the reason that we have AI. I think, and I would have to look into this. I haven't done much research on it, but I think the whole purpose of AI is to or the goal of having AI is to simplify processes and to make things quicker.

NALEE 1:38:34

Like Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:38:35

Yeah.

NALEE 1:38:35

Okay. Yeah, you're right. Never mind. I'm just Merv the Perv thinking about dirty shit.

ANTHONY 1:38:40

Well, and you but no, that doesn't make you MIRV the perv because the downfall of AI, and again, this goes back to the whole regulation of it, is people are using it for bad.

NALEE 1:38:50

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:38:51

People are using it to create, you know, pornographic images of children. It's a fucking wrong turn.

NALEE 1:38:58

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:38:58

Well, no, because honestly, where is the where is the law for that? Like, yeah.

NALEE 1:39:03

Well, I ain't gonna look it up. That's the one thing I'm not gonna look up.

ANTHONY 1:39:06

I was about to, I was like, no, no, no, no, no.

NALEE 1:39:08

No. That's the one thing I will look up. I will look up a rosebud, but I ain't looking up that.

ANTHONY 1:39:16

Again, the bottom line is we just need stronger regulation on and like what it's able to do.

NALEE 1:39:23

Yeah, I agree. Do you have anything else to add?

ANTHONY 1:39:26

AI bad.

NALEE 1:39:27

Yeah, AI is pretty bad.

ANTHONY 1:39:29

Yeah, AI is bad.

NALEE 1:39:30

Caesar's home.

ANTHONY 1:39:31

Caesar's what?

NALEE 1:39:32

Caesar is home. Planet of the Apes.

ANTHONY 1:39:35

I've never seen it.

NALEE 1:39:36

It's such a good franchise. I love that franchise. I have it on DVD.

ANTHONY 1:39:41

Isn't it just a bunch of monkeys that bitch?

NALEE 1:39:46

No! There's a story behind it. It's not just a bunch of monkeys. It is, but it's not. But I love that's one of my favorite franchises. Anyways, what were your topics?

ANTHONY 1:39:56

I just learned something new about you because I did not know that.

NALEE 1:39:58

Yeah, I have a I think a lot of people I think I surprise a lot of people. I'm not gonna I'm gonna be honest. Like this mouth is a sailor mouth, but up here, it could be demented a little bit. But she got some stuff that's kind of neat about her.

ANTHONY 1:40:12

You got some stuff that's kind of neat.

NALEE 1:40:14

Yeah. Okay.

ANTHONY 1:40:16

Okay, so you want to know what my topic was for this. I wanted to talk about rabbit hole c rabbit hole culture.

NALEE 1:40:25

Oh, okay.

ANTHONY 1:40:27

So I don't know about you, but I'm addicted to rabbit holes, especially if it's something that I'm like really interested in. I will go, I will fucking face dive into that, follow one link to another link to another link to another video to just Yep.

NALEE 1:40:42

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:40:42

It's addicting. And then the next thing I know, I'm literally laying in bed at 1.30

Rabbit Holes Algorithms And Phone Habits

ANTHONY 1:40:47

in the morning with the blankets over my head and my cell phone, and I'm just like.

NALEE 1:40:51

I do that with like true crime. For sure. It's really easy to get into a rabbit hole, like a thousand percent. And it's so easy to get into a rabbit hole because it's so accessible.

ANTHONY 1:41:01

And you know what drives me nuts, especially What drives you nuts? Okay. So as far as your rabbit holes go, where do you mainly fall to them?

NALEE 1:41:10

Like true crime stuff.

ANTHONY 1:41:12

What what platform?

NALEE 1:41:13

TikTok.

ANTHONY 1:41:14

Bingo.

NALEE 1:41:15

And Instagram. Those are the top two.

ANTHONY 1:41:17

Those.

NALEE 1:41:18

But the thing about Instagram though, that doesn't do what TikTok does is TikTok actually links like the next thing. Or you could click here to see. Yeah. But Instagram, you kind of have to like click into the profile and then scroll down and then look at their stuff to match.

ANTHONY 1:41:33

See, and that's the part that drives me nuts, is that it's like you have to watch one video, then you have to watch another video, then you have to watch another video.

NALEE 1:41:39

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:41:39

I was like, I just wish it was one video, and then I can decide, okay, what from that video is the next part that I want to go on and like search it. You know what I mean?

NALEE 1:41:50

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because some clips aren't even relevant to what you were like looking at or you were wanting to look at. Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:41:58

And then you're like, next thing you know, you're on part 32. Yeah. You're like, God, damn.

NALEE 1:42:05

Yeah. Do you think that's how they create content? That's how they create content. That's true.

ANTHONY 1:42:10

So they keep me coming back. They like suck me in, and I'm like, Exactly. Okay, this isn't really a rabbit hole, but this just shows how sad my algorithm is. I had a phase where I would get videos of like people would make videos of their spouse or their kid, and it was like their birthday, and they would set up these big things where they would have like, okay, so they're they're turning 23, so they have 23 gifts, and they have to like pick a random cup, and then the cup tells them which gift that they get to open. That was like my thing because That's cute. It was cute, but it was like I'd have to go back every single day to like get the next video, to get the next video, to get the next video.

NALEE 1:42:59

Oh, got what you mean. Okay, okay.

ANTHONY 1:43:01

So every day, so like if they're turning 23, 23 days prior to their birthday, right? Yeah. They would be like, okay, you get to pick a cup. And you'd pick a cup, and it would say, All right, present number 14. Find the couple of things.

NALEE 1:43:16

I mean, I'm not judging you, but I'm judging you a little.

ANTHONY 1:43:19

I know. I'm a bitch, I was judging myself.

NALEE 1:43:22

Anthony. It's okay. I mean, I guess I shouldn't judge you. I like watching the videos where like it's always like some Asian chick, and then she has like, she scoops something up, and then there's like a number amount of like little thingies, and then she would open it and there's a prize in there, and then she would show it, and then she would pack it. Like, I like those videos. I don't know what it's called, but it's like packaging videos, but kind of not really.

ANTHONY 1:43:49

Like, there's ones where you got the one where they get the order, like they they run a small business, yeah, and they get an order, and they're like, let's package this order together, and then they go through all the drawers and they pull out and they put them all together.

NALEE 1:44:00

That one, not those ones, those ones I don't really like. But the ones where like I do, let's say those ones are okay, but these ones are better. The ones where like the lady scoops, like, you know, like they have the they have those gumbo machines, but there's like little, it's like actual prizes. Yeah. But you have to pop open the cap. So they have numbers in those caps, and then they would scoop it, and then it'll they'll open the cap up and there's like a little thing in there, and then open and it'll say, I don't know, Barbie bagpack. And then they would go and get the Barbie pack pack and they would pack it, and then they go to the next one. So it's kind of like that. But those are very like addictive. God, I'm a fucking loser. But yeah.

ANTHONY 1:44:39

This bitch was just sitting here fucking judging me.

NALEE 1:44:42

Yeah, I'm a fucking loser, like legit. Like literally, I would sit on my phone for an hour and watch this dumb bitch get money for packing some shit up when I couldn't.

ANTHONY 1:44:54

Should be packing up nails and getting your own goddamn money.

NALEE 1:44:57

Exactly. But you know what? It is what it is, is what it is.

ANTHONY 1:45:01

It is what it is, is what it is.

NALEE 1:45:03

Yes.

ANTHONY 1:45:04

You're right.

NALEE 1:45:05

Yeah. Such first world problems. All right. Do you have anything else to add to that one?

ANTHONY 1:45:09

No, just rabbit holes are addicting, and I need to stay off my phone.

NALEE 1:45:13

Yeah, I think I've started this thing where after a specific amount of time, I just put my phone away. Good for you. Yeah. Cause I've come to realize that like it's my phone that keeps me up. Like, I can't fall asleep if I'm continuously on my phone. And then it makes me not want to sleep even longer.

ANTHONY 1:45:31

Bitch, I done did told you that. I told you to turn your phone off and put your phone on the other side of the room. I told you that years ago when you don't you roll your ass at me.

NALEE 1:45:39

I'm But yeah, I just started doing that. I'm trying to build healthier habits for myself. So that was one of the things that I've been doing.

ANTHONY 1:45:46

I love that.

NALEE 1:45:47

Thank you.

ANTHONY 1:45:48

And on that note, I'm putting my laptop away.

NALEE 1:45:50

Go ahead.

ANTHONY 1:45:54

No, that was all I had, other than I did have we normally typically did you wait. Did you have anything else you wanted to add?

NALEE 1:46:04

I do not have anything else to add.

ANTHONY 1:46:06

Okay. So I threw into the mix. We normally only do three segments for each for our episodes. And I wanted to do a rapid fire round because I feel like it's been a while since we've done a rapid fire.

NALEE 1:46:19

It has been a while since we we've did some games. Yes, it has.

ANTHONY 1:46:22

Yeah. So let's do a rapid fire round of conspiracy topic.

NALEE 1:46:31

And how does it work?

ANTHONY 1:46:33

So basically what we're gonna do is we're gonna go back and forth. I'll start. I'm gonna give you

Rapid Fire Conspiracy Round

ANTHONY 1:46:38

a rapid fire, quick question, no thinking, just answer your honest opinion, and then I'll throw out my answer, and then you can spit one out at me, and we'll just go back and forth. That way the listeners can get both of our takes.

NALEE 1:46:52

Our answers.

ANTHONY 1:46:54

Yeah. Okay. So any other questions before we start our rapid fire round? And close out the screen.

NALEE 1:47:01

That's it. I am ready.

ANTHONY 1:47:03

All right. On your mark.

NALEE 1:47:07

Get set.

ANTHONY 1:47:09

Go. Okay. Aliens, real or fake.

NALEE 1:47:12

Real. You?

ANTHONY 1:47:13

Real.

NALEE 1:47:14

Alright. Ghosts. Yes or no?

ANTHONY 1:47:16

Yes.

NALEE 1:47:16

I say yes to.

ANTHONY 1:47:17

Yeah. Bigfoot. Misunderstood or non-existent?

NALEE 1:47:21

Non-existent.

ANTHONY 1:47:22

Misunderstood.

NALEE 1:47:23

Oh, okay.

ANTHONY 1:47:25

Yeah.

NALEE 1:47:25

Would you live alone in a haunted mansion for $10 million? Hell yeah.

ANTHONY 1:47:30

You?

NALEE 1:47:30

Hell yeah, would who? I'm gonna be like, Casper! Exactly.

ANTHONY 1:47:36

Simulation theory, believable or ridiculous?

NALEE 1:47:39

Believable for show.

ANTHONY 1:47:41

Believable.

NALEE 1:47:42

Do you think the government hides information from the public?

ANTHONY 1:47:44

Thousand and ten percent.

NALEE 1:47:46

Hundred and thousand percent.

ANTHONY 1:47:47

Yeah. If aliens landed tomorrow, would humanity survive the panic?

NALEE 1:47:52

Yeah, I think they would.

ANTHONY 1:47:53

You think so?

NALEE 1:47:54

Actually, no. I don't think so, no. We've spaz out over everything, so no.

ANTHONY 1:47:58

I think it would be war. I think we would unleash a war on ourselves.

NALEE 1:48:02

Probably, yeah.

ANTHONY 1:48:03

Unnecessarily.

NALEE 1:48:05

Yep.

ANTHONY 1:48:05

Yeah.

NALEE 1:48:06

A thousand percent. Are dreams secretly trying to tell us something?

ANTHONY 1:48:09

Yeah, a hundred percent.

NALEE 1:48:11

Agree to.

ANTHONY 1:48:11

Time travel, possible or impossible.

NALEE 1:48:13

I would love to believe that it's possible.

ANTHONY 1:48:15

Yeah, same. I think it's possible. I don't think that we're quite there, but I think from the future, people are coming back.

NALEE 1:48:21

Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Is it my turn to ask you?

ANTHONY 1:48:24

Yeah. Yeah.

NALEE 1:48:25

Okay. Um have you ever had a moment that felt supernatural?

ANTHONY 1:48:30

Yes.

NALEE 1:48:31

Yes, same as same, same two, yeah.

ANTHONY 1:48:33

Yeah. Would you rather explore space or the deep ocean?

NALEE 1:48:37

Ooh, y'all already know. Deep ocean. Actually, allied space.

ANTHONY 1:48:42

Really?

NALEE 1:48:42

I would explore space. Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:48:44

I find space so much scarier than the ocean. I would do the ocean.

NALEE 1:48:48

Yeah, because space is way bigger than the ocean.

ANTHONY 1:48:50

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yes.

NALEE 1:48:53

But yeah, surprisingly, space for me, actually.

ANTHONY 1:48:56

Yeah, that does surprise me.

NALEE 1:48:58

Do you think ancient civilizations knew things we don't know?

ANTHONY 1:49:01

Yes.

NALEE 1:49:02

Same a thousand percent.

ANTHONY 1:49:04

Yeah. You know what I think? Well, that's neither here nor there, never mind.

NALEE 1:49:08

What do you think?

ANTHONY 1:49:10

I was gonna say, I think that ancient civilizations had a better relationship with like aliens or like other beings. Probably now we as society have just become so selfish and so stupid that aliens just don't even want to like we've become like the stup like they they drive around and they're like, yeah, not stopping there. We're gonna go past that stop.

NALEE 1:49:35

They're literally like the aliens in The Simpsons, where they're just sitting up there judging us.

ANTHONY 1:49:39

Yes, exactly. That's exactly what it is. Because we become such so closed-minded as a society.

NALEE 1:49:47

Yep.

ANTHONY 1:49:48

Okay, would you press a button that reveals every government secret?

NALEE 1:49:52

Yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Ten times over. Exactly. Yes, I would.

ANTHONY 1:50:01

Or no, what's that game? A family feud. Give me them secrets, baby.

NALEE 1:50:05

Yes. If a psychic correctly predicted your future once, would you trust him forever? Ooh, that's a good question.

ANTHONY 1:50:13

Depending on what they predicted.

NALEE 1:50:15

Interesting.

ANTHONY 1:50:16

Like if they predicted that I was gonna have a bowl of grape nuts for breakfast tomorrow, no. But if they predicted like I was gonna survive a side swipe, possible T-bone car accident?

NALEE 1:50:28

Hell yeah. Hell yeah.

ANTHONY 1:50:30

What do I think?

NALEE 1:50:31

I would say no. I wouldn't.

ANTHONY 1:50:32

No.

NALEE 1:50:33

Because I think sometimes things are too good to be true. So I only believe it once.

ANTHONY 1:50:37

Okay, that's fair. That's fair.

NALEE 1:50:38

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:50:39

Have algorithms ruined people's brains?

NALEE 1:50:42

A thousand percent, yeah.

ANTHONY 1:50:44

Thousand percent. Yes.

NALEE 1:50:46

Yeah. If you saw a shadow figure, what's would you recover emotionally?

ANTHONY 1:50:52

Yeah.

NALEE 1:50:52

Nah, bitch. I'm done. Bitch bye. Hell no.

ANTHONY 1:50:57

I think I would recover emotionally, but I think I'd be like looking over my shoulder every chance that I needed to.

NALEE 1:51:02

I'd be like, Anthony, take me to that same asylum right now. I ain't coming back.

ANTHONY 1:51:06

I'll check you in.

NALEE 1:51:07

Wow. I don't work here, but I do now.

ANTHONY 1:51:12

Would you enter Area 51 if someone left the gate open?

NALEE 1:51:15

Yes, I would.

ANTHONY 1:51:16

Yeah.

NALEE 1:51:17

For sure.

unknown 1:51:18

Yeah.

NALEE 1:51:18

Is deja vu what were you gonna say?

ANTHONY 1:51:21

I was just found this one deja vu.

NALEE 1:51:25

Okay. Is deja vu proof of timeline glitches?

ANTHONY 1:51:28

No.

NALEE 1:51:30

I would want I want to say yes. I would say yes.

ANTHONY 1:51:32

You would say yes?

NALEE 1:51:34

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:51:34

It's like the Mandela effect or whatever.

NALEE 1:51:36

Yep, yep, yep.

ANTHONY 1:51:38

If one conspiracy ther if one conspiracy theory turned out true tomorrow, which would scare you the most?

NALEE 1:51:47

That's a good one. The reincarnation one of the kids. That'd be scary. And equally interesting.

ANTHONY 1:51:56

Very interesting. That one I would be very interested in. Yeah. Um mine, I think, would be the conspiracy theory that people have that there are aliens living underneath the surface of the earth. Like in the earth.

NALEE 1:52:10

Ooh, that's a good one. Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:52:13

Yeah.

NALEE 1:52:14

That's a good one. Okay. Is it my turn?

ANTHONY 1:52:16

Um, yeah.

NALEE 1:52:18

Okay. Are we alone in the universe?

ANTHONY 1:52:21

No.

NALEE 1:52:22

Yeah, we are not. We've already been proven. Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:52:25

Adunde told you. You've selfish if you can't do it.

NALEE 1:52:28

You dunnedid told me.

ANTHONY 1:52:29

Adunde told you, listeners. If you think we're alone in the universe, bye.

NALEE 1:52:33

He dunedid told you.

ANTHONY 1:52:35

Could social media convince people of literally anything?

NALEE 1:52:38

Yes.

ANTHONY 1:52:39

Yeah.

NALEE 1:52:40

It already has so many times.

ANTHONY 1:52:42

So many people gullible, I tell you.

NALEE 1:52:45

Yeah. If your clone showed up at your door, what's the first thing you'd ask?

ANTHONY 1:52:49

Ooh, that's a really good one. If it's my clone, they're not gonna know anything that I don't know. So I don't know what I would ask. Where have you been?

NALEE 1:52:57

Interesting. Okay.

ANTHONY 1:52:58

What would you ask?

NALEE 1:53:00

I'd be like, bitch, you're a clone and you couldn't get skinnier the fuck? Couldn't you get a skinnier version of me? What do you mean?

ANTHONY 1:53:05

Okay.

NALEE 1:53:06

And then I'd hore it out to OnlyFans.

ANTHONY 1:53:08

Ooh, that's good.

NALEE 1:53:09

Yep.

ANTHONY 1:53:10

Then you get to take your own pictures.

NALEE 1:53:12

Exactly. Exactly how I want it. The because I know my good angles. Yeah. And I'd be making money on top of that.

ANTHONY 1:53:21

Okay. I see you, Shonda. I see you.

NALEE 1:53:23

Period, period.

ANTHONY 1:53:24

Okay. Would you rather spend one night in the woods alone or one night in an abandoned hospital?

NALEE 1:53:30

Ooh. Probably the woods.

ANTHONY 1:53:33

I would pick the woods too, because when I think of abandoned hospitals, all I can think of is that scene from Saw where she falls into the pit of all the needles.

NALEE 1:53:44

Uh I would do the woods because I feel like in the woods, low-key, I'm actually not scared of the woods and at night. But an abandoned hospital, bitch, fuck that shit. Like.

ANTHONY 1:54:02

Okay.

NALEE 1:54:02

Go on.

ANTHONY 1:54:03

Oh, last one's yours.

NALEE 1:54:05

Okay. What's scarier? Humans, aliens, or the ocean?

ANTHONY 1:54:08

Humans.

NALEE 1:54:09

Yeah. Thousand perceives got to say humans too. Fuck y'all bitches. Y'all crazy.

ANTHONY 1:54:14

Yeah. Humans are crazy.

NALEE 1:54:16

They are crazy. All right. Well, we have a bonus. Unhinged. Bonus. Bonus. All right. So same thing, but these are more unhinged questions. All right. If a ghost politely asked to coexist in your apartment, would you allow it?

ANTHONY 1:54:31

If it's a polite ghost, yeah. I've seen Casper.

NALEE 1:54:34

Mmm. I don't know if I would. I'd be like, you do you boo, but not here. Go to the next apartment, not mine. Yeah, that's they're the next apartment down.

ANTHONY 1:54:48

They're good. They're fine for you.

NALEE 1:54:49

Yeah, they're good. I'm gonna be like, I'm loud, I snore, eat. You're gonna see nasty stuff. Do you want that? Or you prefer the neighbor? Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:54:57

And that ghost is gonna be like, I'm already dead. I don't. It's fine. That's true.

NALEE 1:55:01

And I'm gonna be like, but I'm shy.

unknown 1:55:04

Fuck.

ANTHONY 1:55:07

I feel like we've touched on this before, but do you would you survive a horror movie?

NALEE 1:55:11

I think a lot of you bitches don't think that I would, but I think I would.

ANTHONY 1:55:15

As long as I don't have to run, I think I would too.

NALEE 1:55:18

Yeah, I think I would. If I had to run or if I needed to escape, I think I would actually.

ANTHONY 1:55:23

Yeah. I feel like you and I have watched enough horror movies to know what not to do.

NALEE 1:55:27

Yeah, for sure.

ANTHONY 1:55:28

Except I did say that I would go upstairs to save the kids.

NALEE 1:55:32

Yeah, that's where you die. For me, peace out. Yeah, you're probably right.

ANTHONY 1:55:38

I like to think that I would survive.

NALEE 1:55:40

Yeah. Okay. If aliens abducted you and returned you safely, would you tell anyone? Ooh. Hell yeah.

ANTHONY 1:55:48

I'm telling Air Thine.

NALEE 1:55:50

For real. You've been like exclusive interview at Anthony's house right now.

ANTHONY 1:55:54

Yep. Hell yeah. I'll sell my story to the highest bidder.

NALEE 1:55:58

Period. I think I would too, yeah.

ANTHONY 1:56:00

Oh shit. I just lost my spot. Okay. Yeah, why would you not tell your story?

NALEE 1:56:08

I have no clue.

ANTHONY 1:56:08

Would you rather be trapped in a submarine or stranded in space? Ooh.

NALEE 1:56:13

Oh, that's a good one. Space.

ANTHONY 1:56:15

Ooh. You? I think I would choose the submarine.

NALEE 1:56:17

Interesting. Okay. Interesting.

ANTHONY 1:56:21

Okay.

NALEE 1:56:22

This comes back to the space and ocean question again, though. So I guess that makes sense.

ANTHONY 1:56:26

I'm going to provide you my rationale though for that. I know we don't need to because this is supposed to be rapid fire, but I have to just throw this out there. So submarine, if anything happens in the submarine, chances are it's like that submarine that exploded like a few years ago. Like it's going to be quick and instant if I die. Space, if you're stranded in space, you're going to die slowly and cold. And lastly, in a submarine, if there's anything moving down there, I like to think that I might be able to see something cool. Maybe I'll see a mermaid or Ursula.

NALEE 1:56:57

Okay, now, oh Ursula, bitch. You are Ursula, what do you mean?

ANTHONY 1:57:03

I am Ursula.

NALEE 1:57:04

You're gonna be me. You're gonna be, you're gonna be seeing somebody who looks like me floating. You're like, I knew that bitch now you live down here. I knew it, I knew it.

ANTHONY 1:57:11

Poor unfortunate souls.

NALEE 1:57:13

Yeah. For me, because now that you said that, I kind of want to explain my rationale. I choose space because I'm fascinated by stars. Up in space, you could see things that nobody has ever seen. Because when you're stranded in space, you are like, I don't know, a hundred and a million people who would get to do that. And even if I die cold, that's okay because I hate the hotness. Even if it's slow, that's okay. I'm already, I'm I'm already on my own adventure. So I would definitely choose space over ocean because ocean, you're confined. Like you only see what's within the submarine. But when you're in space, you see everything. You see it going on. Like space is clouded. Like the ocean is clouded. You can only see what's up in front of you, but with space, you could see everything. Yeah, you're right. I like that.

ANTHONY 1:58:02

The ocean is dark.

NALEE 1:58:03

Mm-hmm. Exactly. Have fun. Okay. Do you think your phone is listening to you?

ANTHONY 1:58:10

Yes.

NALEE 1:58:11

Yeah, I agree.

ANTHONY 1:58:12

100%.

unknown 1:58:13

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:58:13

I must not be very interesting though, because I'll tell you one thing. If my phone was really listening to me, uh I would have had cops at my door, like FBI, I'm on their watch list.

NALEE 1:58:23

Like, what does that even mean?

ANTHONY 1:58:25

Well, I've said things for sure.

NALEE 1:58:27

Oh, oh, oh, yeah.

ANTHONY 1:58:28

I've said things that if my phone listened, it flagged the FBI.

NALEE 1:58:32

Your phone's dumb. That's why you don't dropped it one too many times.

ANTHONY 1:58:36

I'm not never mind. What conspiracy theory do you secretly think has some truth to it?

NALEE 1:58:41

Oh. The one that the one that you said, that aliens are living be No, no, no, no. I think lizard people. Really? I think there's some truth to that. Okay. Cause sometimes some people like, not that I've seen, but videos that I've seen, like, there are people who don't act normal. You know what I mean? Yeah. Where it's just kind of like, mmm, are you a lizard person or not?

ANTHONY 1:59:03

Okay. I can see that.

NALEE 1:59:04

How about you?

ANTHONY 1:59:05

Mine would probably be that the, you know, the ancient civil that we discussed, the ancient civilizations with aliens and like the pyramids and yeah.

NALEE 1:59:13

If you disappeared tomorrow, what were your friends assume happened?

ANTHONY 1:59:17

I think that you would think that I moved to a beach somewhere.

NALEE 1:59:19

Probably.

ANTHONY 1:59:20

And just like left society.

NALEE 1:59:22

Yeah. Or I would believe that you moved to Canada. That's what I would think.

ANTHONY 1:59:27

Canada.

NALEE 1:59:27

Yeah, because you remember you said you guys got your passports and like you're gonna move to Canada. Why the fuck would I go to?

ANTHONY 1:59:37

Yeah, to a different country. Yeah.

NALEE 1:59:38

Yeah. That's what I would think. For me, with my current state, you guys would have probably thought that I got kidnapped by some of the guys that I've gone on a date with and I'm dead.

ANTHONY 1:59:48

Yeah, that's probab yeah.

NALEE 1:59:50

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:59:50

Yeah. But hey, I've survived.

NALEE 1:59:53

I've survived. I survived. So it's not true.

ANTHONY 1:59:57

So girl, bye. Okay. You've survived so far.

NALEE 2:00:01

I survived. I survived. I'm good.

ANTHONY 2:00:03

If Earth is a simulation, do you want to know?

NALEE 2:00:06

Yes, I do.

ANTHONY 2:00:08

Yeah, I think so too. Yeah.

NALEE 2:00:10

Use it to my advantage for sure. Okay. Would you accept immortality? Hell yeah.

ANTHONY 2:00:17

Sign me.

NALEE 2:00:18

Okay. I would too.

ANTHONY 2:00:20

100%. You want to bite my neck? Bite my neck. You want to inject me? Inject me. Okay.

NALEE 2:00:25

I will say though, I will only accept it if I was able to choose the age that I become immortal. Wouldn't you think that? Right. Like if it was me right now, I'd be like, can you wait like five more months so I could lose some more weight and then inject me?

ANTHONY 2:00:41

But you would be able to lose weight.

NALEE 2:00:43

You're right, actually. Just kidding. Never mind. Never mind.

ANTHONY 2:00:46

Oh, yeah. Hell yeah. Give me immortality.

NALEE 2:00:49

Yeah, I would too. To fitting and beyond. Yeah.

ANTHONY 2:00:51

Hell yeah.

NALEE 2:00:52

To fitting and beyond.

ANTHONY 2:00:54

What internet rabbit hole changed your brain chemistry forever?

NALEE 2:00:58

Ooh, that's a good one. That is a good one. What internet rabbit hole changed your brain chemistry forever? That's a hard one. I don't have an answer for that right now. Let me hear yours, and then maybe I'll I'll come up with one.

ANTHONY 2:01:13

Um, you're gonna laugh at me, and that's totally fine with this. Um I've seen a lot of videos on people say discussing the moment that they became like a Taylor Swift fan. I'm dead. I roll all you want. I I I'm okay, I'm gonna send you videos. They are almost all the same, and I agree with them. There's just a moment where a song just it's like it flips a switch in your brain, and you start relating, and you're like, I'm gonna say here first, maybe for the hundredth time, Anthony's in a cult. And that's probably what it is.

NALEE 2:01:51

He's in the Taylor Swift cult. It hasn't hit me yet.

ANTHONY 2:01:54

This this ties us back to our last conspiracy episode because that was one of my conspiracies, remember? Was that she was a high priestess and she's one of those Wiccans.

NALEE 2:02:05

I believe in that. Because clearly you're one of her victims.

ANTHONY 2:02:09

Yep. Yep. I will wholeheartedly agree with that. I believe it. I own up to it. But I'm not as cuckoo as some of the Swifties out there. Don't come for me, Swifties.

NALEE 2:02:17

Not yet.

ANTHONY 2:02:18

No, I draw the line. I have a line that I will not cross. But yeah, that's mine.

NALEE 2:02:24

Okay. I don't have one. That's a really good question, though. What internet rabbit hole changed your brain chemistry forever? Actually, I lied. I lied. I watched these videos where they play ambulance or like 901 calls. Like the trauma in that is yeah, there's like a whole there's like a different level of trauma listening to those things.

ANTHONY 2:02:45

Okay. Yeah. I could see that.

NALEE 2:02:48

Yeah. But then you kind of I would like to think, again, that like it helps me learn to like calm myself down in certain situations.

ANTHONY 2:02:59

Or you and it also taught me until you're in that situation.

NALEE 2:03:03

For real. But it also taught me that how like even like kids who are put in like very bad situations, you realize how mature people are and how crazy people can be too, though. So you're just like, damn, yeah, it's crazy.

ANTHONY 2:03:16

Yeah. Okay.

NALEE 2:03:17

All right. I feel you.

ANTHONY 2:03:18

All right.

NALEE 2:03:19

Do you have anything else to add?

ANTHONY 2:03:20

No, that was our rapid fire round.

NALEE 2:03:23

Okay. Well, this was this was uh a messy episode, but back on track.

ANTHONY 2:03:28

That's okay.

NALEE 2:03:29

And basically, after today's episode, I hope none of y'all will be sleeping peacefully.

ANTHONY 2:03:34

Especially after talking about sleep paralysis, demons for what 30 minutes. Yeah.

NALEE 2:03:43

Yeah. And honestly, if you see a shadow figure tonight, don't blame us. He's been with you. She's been with you. It's not on us.

ANTHONY 2:03:51

Yeah. They've been hiding in the closet, just waiting for that perfect

Final Warnings And Listener Prompts

ANTHONY 2:03:54

moment.

NALEE 2:03:54

Exactly.

ANTHONY 2:03:56

But for real though, thank you guys. Thanks to our listeners for loving part one and convincing us to spiral into part two.

NALEE 2:04:04

And somehow these theories and side tangents got even more chaotic.

ANTHONY 2:04:09

Which means that it's inevitable at some point we'll have part three to our conspiracies.

NALEE 2:04:14

Yes. And we we won't be talking about sleep paralysis this time, I promise you that. But send us your favorite creepy conspiracy theories.

ANTHONY 2:04:22

But please don't send them to us right before bed because we will read them and then be up all night.

NALEE 2:04:30

Yes. And don't forget to follow Twin Tangents wherever you listen.

ANTHONY 2:04:35

And remember, trust no one.

NALEE 2:04:37

Well, obviously, except for us. Except for us.

ANTHONY 2:04:40

All right.

NALEE 2:04:41

Right? Three.