A Year Ago Anthony: The Interview We Saved For Later

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One year ago—before Twin Tangents found its rhythm, before the inside jokes multiplied, before the spirals got louder and the tangents got longer—we recorded this episode with one very specific plan:

Save it for our one-year anniversary.

In the early days of podcasting, Nalee put Anthony in the hot seat for a full interview—asking the deep questions, the random questions, and the kind of questions that reveal who someone really is when everything still feels brand new and the future is wide open.

And then we tucked it away.

Now, exactly one year after releasing our very first episode, we’re finally sharing it.

And honestly? It feels like opening a time capsule.

This bonus episode gives listeners a chance to meet Anthony as he was a year ago—before a full year of podcasting, life changes, growth, chaos, and countless tangents—and compare that version to the Anthony you’ve come to know today.

What’s changed?
What stayed exactly the same?
What feels different hearing it back one year later?

There’s plenty of laughter, honest moments, a few chaotic side tangents (obviously), and a lot of reflection woven in between.

In this episode, we tangent through:
✨ Anthony’s mindset and personal philosophy a year ago
✨ Therapy, growth, and becoming the best version of yourself
✨ Gut instincts, red flags, and lessons learned
✨ Family, identity, and the people who shape us
✨ Overthinking, strong opinions, and navigating life out loud
✨ Pop culture rabbit holes and random chaos
✨ The dreams, routines, and priorities Anthony had one year ago

Whether you’ve been here since episode one or you’re just joining the chaos now, this one feels especially meaningful to us.

A look back.
A little time capsule.
And a reminder that growth doesn’t always happen all at once.

Sometimes it happens one tangent at a time.

Thank you for spending this first year with us—and for letting us be exactly who we are along the way.

Now the real question:

How much has Anthony changed in one year… and how much is exactly the same?

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Transcript

Welcome To The Hot Seat

NALEE 0:16

Hey ho, welcome back to Twin Tangents because Therapy was booked. The podcast where honesty is mandatory, chaos is celebrated, and at least one of us is probably spiraling. Today we're putting Anthony in the hot seat. And yes, that's right. My co-host, chaos coordinator, and occasional life philosopher is getting the full get to know you treatment. We're peeling back the jokes, the weird tangents, the hot takes, and the unapologetic, I do me energy to find the man behind the laughs. What's with that look?

ANTHONY 0:50

Nothing. I'm just listening.

NALEE 0:52

Oh, okay. This is a get to know the real Anthony episode. The soft parts, spicy parts, the quirky parts, the petty parts, all of it. So buckle up, grab a snack, maybe a drink, and let's dive into the mind of a man who is equal parts, chaotic, charming, and completely unfiltered. So again, we're gonna shoot our shot for trying to do no edit episodes. So all of these answers and questions, y'all gonna hear the thick of it, okay? All of it. Yes. So my first segment, these questions are more about your identity, background, and just kind of some personal philosophy. All right, let's start where it all begins. Anthony's brain and what makes him tick. All right. So my first question is what's a belief you held strongly five years ago that you no longer believe today?

ANTHONY 1:48

Well, one thing that I used to believe, and I I can't believe it anymore, is that everybody has good intentions.

NALEE 1:55

Okay. Do you want to elaborate on that or you just want to end it on that?

ANTHONY 1:59

I don't really know how to elaborate on that.

NALEE 2:01

Like why do you believe that?

ANTHONY 2:02

I think that over the years, over the last five years, no. Over the years, I have put forth a little bit more thought into the people in my life

Letting Go Of Blind Trust

ANTHONY 2:12

and and their purpose in my life.

NALEE 2:14

Okay.

ANTHONY 2:15

And I mean, for for a lack of better words, terms, I it it's like I've been through life, I've had enough life experiences that I know that not everybody has good intentions.

NALEE 2:29

Okay.

ANTHONY 2:30

So yeah.

NALEE 2:31

Interesting.

ANTHONY 2:32

I don't really know how to elaborate on that. It's like I want to see the good in people.

NALEE 2:36

Okay.

ANTHONY 2:37

But it is hard to it's hard to from time to time.

NALEE 2:40

Okay. All right. I'll move on to the next one.

unknown 2:43

Okay.

NALEE 2:44

You're looking at me with lingering eyes. Do you want to do that?

ANTHONY 2:46

Well, I'm still thinking because I feel like there's so much more that I could say about that.

NALEE 2:50

Okay.

ANTHONY 2:50

But I don't know how else to say it. Okay. If that makes sense.

NALEE 2:53

Yes, it does. I do I do believe that, yes, that not everybody has good intentions. I think we talk about it a lot in our pod already, but that doesn't mean that there aren't people who don't have good intentions.

ANTHONY 3:07

Right. It doesn't mean that there aren't people that have good intentions, but I think that I've learned over time to read people a little bit better.

NALEE 3:15

Okay. You're still giving me that look. Like you wanna add stuff. You wanna say anything else? Do you just drop a deuce on the floor?

ANTHONY 3:24

He just tooted.

NALEE 3:25

Oh, next yeah. You're nasty. You kissing him with that mouth.

ANTHONY 3:29

Yeah.

NALEE 3:30

Yeah. Okay. All right. It's okay. We'll move on to the next question. Okay. Okay. If you have anything to add, you could add later on if you want.

ANTHONY 3:37

Okay, I'm just gonna say this.

NALEE 3:39

Okay.

ANTHONY 3:39

I'm just gonna say this. People have to protect their own, their own image, their own life, their own self. And the only way to do that is to evaluate the people that come into your life and really read. It's almost like making a pros and cons list of everybody and little things that you notice. And if you notice something or if your gut instinct is giving you something, there's 99% of the time there's gonna be something more to that.

NALEE 4:02

Yeah. Look for those red flags.

ANTHONY 4:04

Look for those red flags, acknowledge those red flags. And then remember at the end of the day, everybody's looking out for themselves. Yeah.

NALEE 4:11

Yep.

ANTHONY 4:12

So there. I've said what I've said.

NALEE 4:14

Nice. Okay. Next question. If someone wrote a biography about you, what would be the unexpected chapter? What? What would the unexpected chapter be? Is what I meant to say. Same thing.

ANTHONY 4:26

Same question. I think the unexpected chapter would be something that nobody knows. So if anybody were to go through my life, when I let's just say, for example, when I die, there are things that if I have not gotten rid of before my my death, if somebody comes across those, they're really going to get

Journals, Therapy, And Dark Thoughts

ANTHONY 4:47

a rare inside glimpse into me.

SPEAKER_00 4:49

Okay.

ANTHONY 4:50

And so just for clarity, some of those things might be like journals that I may have.

NALEE 4:55

Okay.

ANTHONY 4:56

But that chapter would be a real deep dive into some of my most deepest thoughts.

SPEAKER_00 5:05

Do you want to share one with us?

ANTHONY 5:06

No. Well, just wait for that autobiography to come out.

NALEE 5:11

Okay.

ANTHONY 5:11

But there's been a lot of like in my mind, you know, we've we've done a lot of talking over the over the last six months of like mental health and you've started therapy, I've started therapy. Yeah. And I'm not saying that with therapy I'm healed or that I'm good, but like my mind is a dark place, and there's a lot of things that have gone on in my mind that if somebody were to come across those journals and read those journals, they would get an insight into me, who I was, and they would be able to see some of the, again, the dark thoughts that I've had, the struggles that I've gone through.

SPEAKER_00 5:43

Yeah.

ANTHONY 5:43

And if and when it does happen and I haven't gotten rid of those, and somebody does come across those, I really hope they take the time to see just how much I truly went through.

SPEAKER_00 5:56

Yeah.

ANTHONY 5:57

And I'm not trying to make that like a woe is me sort of thing because I know that everybody has their own struggles and their own y battles that they they fight daily. But maybe that would add some insight into those people in my life as to why I am the way that I am.

NALEE 6:16

Interesting. Okay. Well, now that we've peeked behind the curtain of Anthony's brain, let's see what fuels his passions. Alright, so passions. Your passions. Your passion. Passion. Yeah. So this these questions are gonna be, or this question is more for like what you're obsessed with. It has nothing to do with work. It's more of like creativity, your passions, and what's your mindset. So what are you currently obsessed with that has nothing to do with your work?

ANTHONY 6:46

All I think about is work all the time.

Obsessions And Timeline Pressure

NALEE 6:49

Minus.

ANTHONY 6:49

I'm just kidding. I don't do that anymore. Of course, this is the stupidest thing, but what I'm really obsessed right now with is Taylor's new album.

NALEE 6:58

I'm done. Okay.

ANTHONY 6:59

I'm obsessed with Taylor's new album. I can't.

NALEE 7:01

I thought you said you didn't really like it.

ANTHONY 7:03

I didn't. And then the more that I listen to it, you drank the Kool-Aid. Yeah, like reflex.

SPEAKER_00 7:09

Okay.

ANTHONY 7:10

I don't really know what I'm obsessed about. I don't think that there's anything that I'm truly obsessed about, but some things that I'm focused on and trying to prioritize is like bettering myself.

NALEE 7:20

Okay.

ANTHONY 7:21

I thought again, going to therapy.

NALEE 7:23

Yeah. Becoming the best version of yourself is becoming the best version of myself.

ANTHONY 7:27

Yeah. And I I feel like it's frustrating because I'm like, at the age that I'm at, I I if I was going off the timeline that I had for myself as a teenager or a high schooler, I would not be where I am today. I would be much further. So it's like I'm struggling inside to realize that that timeline isn't realistic. Everybody's timeline is different. You can't just say by age 30, I'm gonna do this. Yeah. By age 40, I'm gonna do this.

NALEE 7:53

Okay. Yeah. Okay. All right. I like that answer. So my next question is what small, almost trivial habit makes a disproportionately big difference in your day?

ANTHONY 8:04

Something that I started doing, God, it's it's been for has to have been at least six months now. But one thing that I've started doing is in the mornings when I wake up. I haven't been doing this lately with all the chaos in my life.

SPEAKER_00 8:17

Yeah.

ANTHONY 8:18

But normally when I would wake up, the first thing that I would do is I would make my coffee, I would sit on sit out on my back porch, light a candle, and I would

Morning Rituals That Ground You

ANTHONY 8:26

just have a few moments to myself.

SPEAKER_00 8:27

Mm-hmm.

ANTHONY 8:28

Um I love that. I feel like again, because I haven't been doing it, looking back on it, that really did make a huge difference in just my o day overall.

SPEAKER_00 8:37

Okay.

ANTHONY 8:38

So there is that. One thing that I've started doing, again, I have not been doing lately, was making my bed. Like as the first task of the day, because first thing you do, make your bed.

NALEE 8:50

Feel accomplished.

ANTHONY 8:51

You feel accomplished. It's like I've already I've just started off my list and I've already checked something off. You know what I mean? So that makes a huge difference. I would definitely recommend to people to try doing that.

NALEE 9:02

Okay.

ANTHONY 9:03

But again, the bed that I'm sleeping in now has not been made in like And that's okay.

NALEE 9:07

You're going through shit. Your bed's not gonna be mad at you.

ANTHONY 9:10

It's not gonna be mad at me, and it's still there when I go put my head on the pillow.

NALEE 9:13

Yes. All right. What's a decision you make daily that you think others should experiment with?

SPEAKER_02 9:22

I think I misunderstood that question.

SPEAKER_00 9:24

Oh, it's okay. I think I misunderstood the assignment.

ANTHONY 9:28

But you could still answer it.

unknown 9:29

That's okay.

ANTHONY 9:30

What's a decision that I make daily that I think others should experiment with?

NALEE 9:35

Or you try to answer it to see if I understand it.

ANTHONY 9:39

Well, I I mean, yeah, I mean my answer for this would have been was again, I think I misunderstood the question, but I I try my best not to get frustrated with people, though it's so difficult.

NALEE 9:51

So if they people should experiment, not getting frustrated with other people. That's okay. That's a good experiment to do. It's like a mental check.

SPEAKER_00 10:00

I guess.

NALEE 10:01

Yeah. Do you have a more prepared answer now that you know what it is?

ANTHONY 10:05

Don't.

NALEE 10:05

Okay.

ANTHONY 10:06

A decision that I make daily. Oi. That think others should experiment with. Making your bed right away in the morning.

NALEE 10:14

I was gonna say that that's a good one.

ANTHONY 10:15

Make your bed right away in the morning if you don't.

NALEE 10:18

Yeah. I love that.

unknown 10:20

Yeah.

NALEE 10:20

Ooh, I I like I really like this question. If your mornings had a soundtrack, what song would it be on? And I already know it's gonna be some Taylor Swift shit.

ANTHONY 10:29

What songs would be on it? Highway to Hell, Smack My Bitch Up.

NALEE 10:36

Are you joking? Yeah. Oh, I was about to say, wait, that's little.

ANTHONY 10:40

I'm joking.

NALEE 10:40

That's gonna be in your diary.

ANTHONY 10:42

You know, it's funny because I was going through these lists of questions and like so that I could think about them a little bit ahead of time.

SPEAKER_02 10:49

Yeah.

ANTHONY 10:49

And I got I I got to this question and I was like,

Soundtrack Songs And Quiet Influence

ANTHONY 10:52

that's a really good question. Yeah. And I went to my phone and I was like, what have I been listening to? What songs have I favorited? And then I was looking at some of the songs I favorited. 100% I can tell you, half of them were probably favorited like on accident.

SPEAKER_00 11:06

Okay.

ANTHONY 11:07

So I really had to start thinking about like how my day starts out, what attitude do I start out with my day? And like what songs would make a great, you know, soundtrack from my morning. So some of the songs that I came up with, Imagine by John Lennon.

NALEE 11:23

Okay.

ANTHONY 11:24

And I think that that roots back to me always wanting to, you know, believe that there's good in people and find the good in people and imagine. I'm always thinking about how nice it would be if we could live in a perfect utopia of a world.

SPEAKER_02 11:39

Yeah.

ANTHONY 11:40

Like there's just so much. Yeah. It sounds so cliche and so stupid, but there's just so much shit out there that it's the world is a dark place in in reality. And just imagine, like the song. Imagine if we didn't have any of that.

SPEAKER_02 11:55

Yeah.

ANTHONY 11:56

And the reason, again, that that because I like to find the good people, and I like to I like to think that good wins, love wins, happiness wins. So yeah, Imagine by John Lennon, This Is Me Trying by Taylor Swift.

NALEE 12:10

Okay.

ANTHONY 12:11

The Lakes by Taylor Swift, because I just cause I fucking love that song.

NALEE 12:15

Haven't heard that before.

ANTHONY 12:16

Yeah. It would probably be a really short soundtrack.

NALEE 12:18

Okay.

ANTHONY 12:19

All I want to do is have some fun.

NALEE 12:21

All right.

ANTHONY 12:21

That's a good song.

NALEE 12:22

Who's that by?

ANTHONY 12:23

It's on the tip of my tongue and I can't think of it.

NALEE 12:27

Okay. Well, you look that up and I'll ask you my next question. So, who in your life has influenced you in a way they probably don't realize?

ANTHONY 12:36

It was Cheryl Crow, just to confirm.

NALEE 12:38

Okay.

ANTHONY 12:39

And to answer that question a hundred percent, my brother. He he will never understand or know how much he has influenced me and impacted my life since I was a kid, or how much that I look up to him.

NALEE 12:54

I love that.

ANTHONY 12:56

Yeah.

NALEE 12:56

Does he know that?

ANTHONY 12:58

He doesn't. He doesn't.

NALEE 13:00

You know what you should do? You should give him a call on a random ass day and just be like, hey bro, I just want to let you know that you make it you made an impact on me. You should do that.

ANTHONY 13:08

Yeah. Shoulda wulda coulda.

NALEE 13:11

Is he dead?

ANTHONY 13:12

No.

NALEE 13:13

Oh, then you can still do it. Why would you say shoulda coulda woulda?

ANTHONY 13:16

Me and my brother don't have that kind of relationship. Like, we're complete opposites.

NALEE 13:20

Are you?

ANTHONY 13:21

Like, I am more emo like I'm definitely live up to my zodiac cyanome cancer. Yeah. But I'm definitely more emotional.

SPEAKER_02 13:29

Okay.

ANTHONY 13:30

Nurturing. I'm more in tune with my emotions than he is. And he's definitely like.

NALEE 13:35

That's okay. That that's on him to deal with, but I feel like Yeah, but we don't ha we don't talk like that because of it.

ANTHONY 13:43

Like we just don't have that sort of we don't have that kind of relationship.

NALEE 13:46

Are you guys do you guys like hate each other?

ANTHONY 13:48

No. I don't hate him at all.

NALEE 13:51

Well, I I was just saying that even if you guys don't have that kind of relationship, I feel like if it's something that you genuinely feel whether or not he is that type of person or not, it doesn't hurt to just hit him up and be like, hey bro, I just wanted to let you know. You know? I feel like he I feel like it'll soften it a little bit. I don't think so. Especially when you guys don't have that kind of connection. I feel like that'd be I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I'm just saying I feel like that would be something really nice to just say to him.

ANTHONY 14:22

Yeah.

NALEE 14:23

Yeah.

ANTHONY 14:23

No, I see.

NALEE 14:24

You do what you do, boo.

ANTHONY 14:25

I I I understand where you're coming from. I hear you. I acknowledge what you're saying.

NALEE 14:31

I understand.

ANTHONY 14:32

I understand it most likely will not happen.

NALEE 14:35

It's a no for you.

ANTHONY 14:36

It's a no for me.

NALEE 14:38

Okay. Well, you we have it on the pod, and if your brother if I ever run into your brother.

ANTHONY 14:43

You'll never run into him, but go on.

NALEE 14:44

If I ever run into your brother, I would remind him, hey, I've met your brother or your brother had told me in a podcast that he really looks up to you.

ANTHONY 14:56

Just send him the link to this episode and ask him to listen. Yeah.

NALEE 14:59

I'd be like, hey, are you Anthony's bro? Listen to listen to it at the 20, the 18 minute mark, and you'll hear some really sweet stuff. Yeah. Yeah.

ANTHONY 15:10

I don't know. There, I mean, I have so much mad respect for him. I don't know. I just when I think of my brother, I I think of all of the memories that I have from him when or with him when I was a kid. But since he now that he's an adult, and again, for listeners out there who don't know, my brother is 15 years older than me. So there's a big age gap.

SPEAKER_00 15:32

That's true.

ANTHONY 15:33

Which is another reason that I think we don't have that sort of relationship. Right. Because he was 15. When you were 15, were you hanging out with a baby?

NALEE 15:43

Probably.

ANTHONY 15:44

You were probably out with your friends and like living your life.

NALEE 15:47

I don't have friends. I didn't have friends. I didn't live my life. I was at home babysitting my nephew.

SPEAKER_05 15:53

When you were 15?

NALEE 15:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 15:55

Oh. Okay.

NALEE 15:56

Well, that's why, like, yeah. It's it's not about me though. It's about you. Uh-huh. Go on.

ANTHONY 16:01

Yeah. I don't know. I just think that that's a big part of it.

NALEE 16:04

Okay. And that's okay. I wasn't forcing you. It was just a suggestion.

ANTHONY 16:08

Yeah, you're not going to force me to do that.

NALEE 16:10

Okay. Next question here. What's the most meaningful compliment someone has ever given you?

ANTHONY 16:15

Okay, this I don't necessarily know that this is a compliment, but this is something that I consistently think about. My very first semester of college, I went out to New Mexico University, and I was walking down the dorm, like hallway. It was a co-ed dorm.

SPEAKER_02 16:28

Okay.

ANTHONY 16:29

And this girl was walking by me. We were walking towards each other. And she just made a comment to me and she's like, Boy, you are always cheesing.

NALEE 16:38

Does it mean that you stink like a cheese curd?

ANTHONY 16:40

Okay, so you don't understand it either. So this was what

Compliments, Smiling, And Patience

ANTHONY 16:43

sparked our friendship was I was like, I had to ask her. I'm like, I don't what does that mean? I'm always cheasing. She's like, you're always smiling. You always seem so happy.

NALEE 16:51

Oh, okay.

ANTHONY 16:52

But that was also That's so cute. That was like literally 20 years ago. That was a different Anthony. That was a different person.

NALEE 16:58

I can't no, I feel like you are still that though. I will say though, like your smile is very beautiful. And like when somebody sees you smile, it really brightens up their day. No, I'm for real. Like when I look at all the videos and all the like I still have not yet posted videos from the office when we were like fucking around. But yeah, like if you look at those videos and when those videos where I go, hey, and you go, hey, and you smile, like it literally brightens up your day. Yeah.

ANTHONY 17:28

But do you think that it's my smile that's brighting up the day or the memory that we made and you're just like reflecting on it?

NALEE 17:33

No, I think it's I think it's your smile. When I first saw you, I'm like, oh, he has a really nice smile.

ANTHONY 17:38

People always tell me that.

NALEE 17:39

Yeah. Own it.

ANTHONY 17:40

I wish I could. I wish that I could. I do try to like smile at people because again, it seems so cliche, but it's like you never know what another person is going through.

NALEE 17:52

So I'm always trying to like I must smile so nobody kills me. That's another thing.

ANTHONY 17:57

I'm like, you can't you can't kill me if I'm smiling at you.

NALEE 18:00

But I love that. Are you guys still friends till today? Till today.

ANTHONY 18:05

Yes. We've lost contact because she kind of went off social media.

NALEE 18:09

Oh, okay. Oh, I think we've t I think you've told me about her.

ANTHONY 18:12

Yeah. And then she had some account. She found me and we reconnected.

NALEE 18:15

Nice.

ANTHONY 18:17

I haven't heard from her in a couple of years, and I don't know if you remember me talking to you about her. But this is my friend. She actually had has or had cancer.

SPEAKER_02 18:27

Oh.

ANTHONY 18:28

And it was fast acting as far as the symptoms that she was having. But again, I haven't heard from her in a couple of years. I've texted her. Um I've tried to reach out and I haven't gotten any response. So unfortunately, I'm assuming I agree with Sarah.

NALEE 18:47

You are always cheesing.

ANTHONY 18:49

I am always cheesing. Yeah.

NALEE 18:51

Okay. That's cute. I love it.

ANTHONY 18:53

Yeah, I was we became really good friends. We lived in the same dorm and learned a lot from her.

NALEE 18:58

Yeah. Okay.

ANTHONY 18:59

And now I'm like reminiscing about those times.

NALEE 19:01

Love that.

unknown 19:02

Yeah.

NALEE 19:03

All right. What's a trait you admire in others that you're actively trying to develop in yourself?

ANTHONY 19:08

Patience.

NALEE 19:09

Okay.

ANTHONY 19:10

I was just having this conversation with Richard. I was like, I don't have patience for people. And he's like, I think you have patience. And I'm like, okay, let me rephrase that. I don't have patience for stupidity.

SPEAKER_00 19:19

Okay.

ANTHONY 19:20

Like, I like none. I will go from zero to a hundred if you approach me with some stupid ass nonsense.

NALEE 19:27

I'd have to I beg to differ. Cause you deal with my stupidity all the time. And you love it.

ANTHONY 19:35

No, I think No. Because you're you come to me with like valid things.

NALEE 19:41

Oh no, I'm real stupid. And you know that. Sometimes you're just like, what the fuck is going on in our head?

ANTHONY 19:47

No, I don't think so.

NALEE 19:48

Oh, okay.

ANTHONY 19:49

At least not now. Maybe when we worked at the further, there were some times that I was like, this fucking bitch. What the shit?

NALEE 19:55

That's still me.

ANTHONY 19:56

But I just have no patience anymore for people. And that's something that I really wish that I had and I'm working on it. But it's so difficult because it's like when something becomes when something gets to the point that it's like you're beating a dead horse, I don't know how else to help you. I don't know what else to tell you. Like, do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth? Like, I have no patience for it. Like at some point I'm just like, I'm done. I can't do this.

NALEE 20:22

Okay, let's try this. Oohsa. Repeat that three times. Breath in and breath out.

ANTHONY 20:29

Sa. Ooosa. What what the fuck? Is this like? Am I speaking Hmong right now?

NALEE 20:34

No, oosa is from uh Men in Bla uh not Med in Black. From Boys Tim, not Boys to Med. Bad Boys. Will Smith. You've never seen that? Oh yeah. He goes, Ooosa, Oosa. So they're like taking a deep breath, like they're trying to calm down.

SPEAKER_00 20:49

Okay.

NALEE 20:49

So like when people like piss you off, oosa a little bit. Just be like, oosa, breathe.

ANTHONY 20:55

But I don't think that I I don't think it's a matter of me getting pissed off. It's just a matter of me like getting frustrated.

NALEE 21:00

I guess.

ANTHONY 21:01

For me personally, I can see that I'm sure that there are people who are trying to do it.

NALEE 21:03

When you get frustrated, think about me teaching you about the whoosa. Maybe that'll have. Yeah.

ANTHONY 21:09

I do. I have been trying to like take a step.

NALEE 21:11

I do agree with you though. I also have no tolerance for stupid people.

ANTHONY 21:15

I have no tolerance for people.

NALEE 21:15

Although I'm stupid, I have people no tolerance for people who are stupid.

ANTHONY 21:19

Well, first of all, you're not stupid. You're not you're not stupid. I was actually listening to one of our episodes and I was like, damn, Nolly knows her shit.

NALEE 21:27

Do I?

ANTHONY 21:28

Yeah. You're very smart.

NALEE 21:30

I'm not smart.

ANTHONY 21:31

You are?

NALEE 21:32

I'm okay.

unknown 21:33

No.

NALEE 21:33

I just know things, but I'm not smart.

ANTHONY 21:35

You're smart. You don't give yourself enough credit. See.

NALEE 21:38

Okay.

ANTHONY 21:38

But yeah, I I need to work on my patience with people.

NALEE 21:42

Okay. Work in progress.

ANTHONY 21:44

I'm a work in progress for sure.

NALEE 21:46

All right. What's something you're proud of that people never get to see?

ANTHONY 21:50

Something that I'm proud of that people never get to see is the fact that I wake up every day and give as much as I do.

NALEE 21:55

I love that. That's such a good answer. I love that.

ANTHONY 22:00

'Cause that's right, 'cause that's one thing that no other person is ever going to understand or know.

SPEAKER_02 22:06

Yeah.

ANTHONY 22:06

Like I'm never gonna know 100% f what you're going through.

SPEAKER_02 22:11

Yeah.

ANTHONY 22:12

And that you're giving your all even through all of the shit you're going through.

NALEE 22:17

Yeah.

ANTHONY 22:18

Right?

NALEE 22:18

Yeah. Oh, I love that. Okay.

ANTHONY 22:20

Thank you.

NALEE 22:21

What's a pattern you've broken that you're proud of?

ANTHONY 22:24

Smoking.

NALEE 22:26

Yeah.

ANTHONY 22:27

I quit smoking.

NALEE 22:28

You did. I think I met you when I first met you, you were smoking. I was smoking.

ANTHONY 22:33

Yes. And then I quit.

NALEE 22:34

Yes.

ANTHONY 22:35

And then I started up again. Yep. And okay, you know what I'm even more proud of about the fact is when I quit, I quit because I was using Chantix. Shantix, however you say it.

NALEE 22:45

I remember that. You were using those patches. Was it the patches?

ANTHONY 22:48

No.

NALEE 22:49

But didn't you use patches too?

ANTHONY 22:51

I did try the patch. And I chewed the gum. Yeah, yeah.

NALEE 22:54

I remember that little nasty time. Yeah.

Quitting Smoking And Taking Up Space

ANTHONY 22:56

And then I tried Chantix. And I quit. I managed to quit. And then I don't remember what happened. I quit for probably like 18 months. And then I started smoking again. But me, I thought I was being very sly because I was like hiding it from like my aunt and uncle. I was hiding it from Richard. And I was like, bitch, I'm sure I smell like a stale ass ashtray when I would like walk in the house or my car still smell like cigarettes.

NALEE 23:22

Because it is really strong.

ANTHONY 23:23

It is really strong and it's gross.

NALEE 23:25

Yeah, it's nasty.

ANTHONY 23:26

Oh God, when I go to the grocery store and somebody walks past me and I'm like, I can't do it. But I'm very proud of my I'm very proud of the fact that after I started back up again, I quit cold turkey.

NALEE 23:38

Yeah, I love that for you.

ANTHONY 23:39

I went, I don't know if you remember this. I went out with you and Callie.

NALEE 23:43

Yep, I was just gonna say it was the hollow. Yes. I was gonna, I was like, yes, exactly that.

ANTHONY 23:49

And I smoked, we were out on the smoking patio and I was smoking.

NALEE 23:54

Lady Gaga.

ANTHONY 23:55

I think I have the video, actually. Yes, I'm gonna post it to socials for the listeners.

NALEE 24:00

No. That's a real quick no for me.

ANTHONY 24:03

But I I was smoking on the smoking patio, and I think I had I may have had like two cigarettes left. And when I left the hollow, I smoked both of them on my way home.

SPEAKER_00 24:13

Wow.

ANTHONY 24:14

Or maybe one of them. Maybe I still had one left. But the next morning I woke up, never smoked again.

NALEE 24:19

Wow. Why? Is it just like you're not feeling it?

ANTHONY 24:22

I don't that's a very good question. I I I've thought about it, but I haven't tried to think about it too much.

NALEE 24:28

Okay.

ANTHONY 24:29

Because I don't want to reignite. Yeah.

NALEE 24:33

Okay. I get it. Okay. We're gonna we're gonna stop it right there.

ANTHONY 24:35

But yeah, I just I Good for you, boo.

NALEE 24:38

I'm proud of you. I'm I'm like actually really proud of you. Thank you. I'm proud of myself too for that. Yeah, you've like you've done a lot of things for yourself. I'm sh like, you know, you're you stopped smoking, you've deadlessly cut down your alcohol use. You're not using cocaine anymore.

ANTHONY 24:54

Which note for listeners, it's been years for that. So I haven't done that in at least five years.

NALEE 25:02

Oh five days ago.

ANTHONY 25:04

Wait, how long did my cousin get married?

NALEE 25:08

Five days ago.

ANTHONY 25:09

Five days ago. No, no.

NALEE 25:11

New year's coming up, baby.

ANTHONY 25:12

No, it's been over five years.

NALEE 25:14

Good for you. I love it.

ANTHONY 25:15

For six years.

NALEE 25:16

I mean, you didn't that wasn't an issue for you.

ANTHONY 25:18

Yeah, that yeah.

NALEE 25:19

I'm just saying it was a joke. But yeah, I'm proud of you. Thank you. Good for you. I know it's really hard to stop something when it's it's not really an addiction, but it just kind of helps you cope with things.

ANTHONY 25:28

It totally is an addiction, though.

NALEE 25:30

It is. It is. Smoking is for sure.

ANTHONY 25:32

Yeah.

NALEE 25:33

Yeah. And alcohol, but still, that's that's amazing. I know like I've I know people in my personal life who's tried smoking, quit, smoke, quit. And it's like a constant battle. So if you're able to quit smoking, I love that because it just means you're trying to choose a healthier lifestyle.

ANTHONY 25:51

Yeah.

NALEE 25:52

I love that.

ANTHONY 25:52

Yeah, I don't think a lot of people think about the effects of it, just more so how it makes you feel when you're doing it. But I also just want to throw this out or not throw this out there, but like clarify that also wasn't my legit answer to your question.

NALEE 26:08

It also was?

ANTHONY 26:09

It was not. That was I meant it as like a joke answer, but I mean it also is something that I have broken. So it is a valid response to your question, not the one that I wanted to say though.

NALEE 26:21

Okay. Damn, I full on went with that answer in my life.

ANTHONY 26:24

Full on went with it, yeah.

NALEE 26:26

Okay.

ANTHONY 26:26

Uh but while we're on that then, I also stopped biting my fingernails out of nowhere, which is bad habit for me.

NALEE 26:34

Yeah, I remember your nails were like short.

ANTHONY 26:36

Oh, yeah.

NALEE 26:37

You and Melissa. Oh my god. Melissa's nails, baby girl. I was like, don't eat them.

ANTHONY 26:43

I would bite my nails to the point that I was like bleeding.

NALEE 26:45

Yeah, that's crazy.

ANTHONY 26:46

Yeah.

NALEE 26:47

Okay, so what is the answer, yeah, actual answer?

ANTHONY 26:50

So my actual answer of something that I've broken that I was proud of, and I say was because I think I've kind of gone back into this place. But at one point I stopped making myself smaller to make other people comfortable.

NALEE 27:03

Okay. And why do you and I I love that answer. And why do you feel like you're back on that?

ANTHONY 27:09

I don't know. I I feel like I should investigate this with my therapist, but I feel like I had some sort of situation within the last, I don't know, four or five, six years. I feel like there was something that happened that kind of made me revert back to my old ways of being a little bit more anxious and a little bit more concerned with pleasing everybody around me. Like this tattoo that I have on my wrist, it says love me or hate me. And people used to think it was a Britney Spears lyric, which was actually a twofer for me since you know how much I love Britney Spears. But it was not inspired by a Britney Spears. What inspired this tattoo was there was a point in my life where I cared so much about what other people thought about me. Okay, that when I got this tattoo, I had reached a point where I was like, I don't give a shit. If you don't like me, fuck you.

SPEAKER_00 28:01

Yeah.

ANTHONY 28:02

You don't like what I have to say, fuck you. You don't like what I'm wearing, fuck you.

NALEE 28:05

Yeah.

ANTHONY 28:06

And I was at that point, and it was like, you either like me or you don't.

NALEE 28:09

And what are the three F's again?

ANTHONY 28:10

If you're not feeding me, you're not financing me, you're not fucking me, move along.

NALEE 28:14

Exactly. Yes.

ANTHONY 28:17

But yeah, so I'm j I so I think something happened that I fell I reverted back into that pre-stage where I was like more anxious, caring about what people thought about me. And I'm trying to get back out of that and get back to where I'm not.

NALEE 28:31

Do you think it could this is just super like side tangent. Do you think it'd be because of like the further?

ANTHONY 28:38

No.

NALEE 28:38

Okay. No. Do you think it's something that's happening outside of work? Is it me?

ANTHONY 28:44

Oh no, this I think whatever it is has happened like before I even knew you.

NALEE 28:48

Oh, okay.

ANTHONY 28:48

Yeah. So even before the further. Yeah.

NALEE 28:52

Okay. Well, I hope you do talk to your therapist about it and figure it out. Get it together.

ANTHONY 28:57

I'm pretty sure my therapist is going nuts because I'm like, every week it's just like one new lady level of shit. Just the shit just heeps pile.

NALEE 29:07

I feel bad for my therapist too. He's probably like, you dumb bitch, just get it together. But like, it's like every week I talk to him and he's just like, oh yeah, so what's going on now? And I'm like, I'm like, hold on. Let me take on my diary. Let me take on my book in my house. But I mean, we haven't really been life has really been throwing shit at us. Like back to the city. Yeah, so I don't blame you. And there's a reason why they get paid to be a therapist. So that's true.

ANTHONY 29:35

And this is one of the things that the listeners will never fully know because that we're actually crazy motherfuckers? No, just all the stuff that we're going through because it is personal that we're not gonna share with the world.

NALEE 29:49

Yeah, for sure. But well, I'm glad that you're noticing a pattern again and you're you know, you're acknowledging that. So yeah, hopefully you talk to her and figure it out.

SPEAKER_00 29:59

Hopefully.

NALEE 30:00

Yeah. My next question is what's the most valuable mistake you've ever made?

ANTHONY 30:06

Giving people one more chance. Even after seeing all the red flags. Like red flag after red flag after red flag, and I chose to ignore it.

NALEE 30:17

Okay.

ANTHONY 30:17

And I kept giving people one more chance. I don't necessarily know that that was a valuable mistake now that I think.

NALEE 30:23

Okay, I was gonna say, so what makes it valuable?

ANTHONY 30:25

Oh look at you. Diane Sawyer over here.

NALEE 30:27

Yeah. Honey, it's the land. Not Diane Sawyer, but I don't know if you know who that's the lady.

Red Flags, Extra Chances, And Silence

NALEE 30:33

Needle Haggaha. No. Okay, it's it's the lady. Okay, if you guys have this is super on the side, but Oh my god. There's been like these videos circulating from this lady who's like a fortune teller or she's a psychic or whatever, and she was like on, I don't know if you guys remember, but this is really old. The Montel show. I loved the Montel show. And he would bring this psychic lady on the show. And there's a lot of like people are looking at the reruns now, and like they're like cutting out little scenes from like when she speaks to people. And like, let me look up her name. If I say her name, you guys are gonna know who she is.

ANTHONY 31:10

But she It wasn't Sylvia Brown.

NALEE 31:12

I think it is her.

ANTHONY 31:13

Is it Sylvia Brown?

NALEE 31:14

Yeah, I think it is her. Where people would ask her a question and they would be like, for so, for example, the question from what I was saying was the girl said that like her haunt her house is haunted or something like that. And then she gave a big explanation, and then the the lady who asked the question asked again. She's like, but you did she kind of give an implication of like, but you didn't answer my question. Like, what's going on? And so then she's like, Honey, it's the land. Look at the land. And like, it's so funny.

ANTHONY 31:44

That was a very randomly obscure reference.

NALEE 31:49

But I will share it on on the socials if I find it.

SPEAKER_05 31:53

Okay.

NALEE 31:53

But I'll share it to you if I find it too. But what what did she say her name was?

SPEAKER_05 31:57

Sylvia Brown. Sylvia is it's Sylvia Brown.

NALEE 31:59

Brown. Let me see. Let me see if it is her. Yeah, it's that bitch. Hold on. Let me see if I could hear it. Oh, wait, I don't know if we can play it. He drowned. He drowned. Like she didn't even like she doesn't even like put their like com like she doesn't even. Yeah, honey, it's the land.

SPEAKER_01 32:21

You know, like honey, it's the land.

NALEE 32:25

Yeah, but sorry, I just thought of that for some reason, but go on. Yeah, what makes it valuable? What makes that mistake valuable?

ANTHONY 32:34

I think what makes it valuable is it's first off that I'm acknowledging it. And I have because I'm acknowledging it, it's in the forefront of my mind when it does happen.

SPEAKER_02 32:45

Okay.

ANTHONY 32:45

So it allows me to be able to take a step back and really like, am I gonna give this person one more chance?

NALEE 32:50

It makes you reflect on the chances that you've given to them.

ANTHONY 32:53

Excuse me. Yes, that's the perfect way to say it. It makes me reflect because I'm acknowledging it and I am aware of it.

NALEE 32:59

Okay. Taking accountability for your actions.

ANTHONY 33:03

Accountability for my actions.

NALEE 33:04

Yeah, I love that. Okay. Well, my next question is what's something you're preparing now that no one else knows about?

ANTHONY 33:13

I plead the fifth on this one.

NALEE 33:14

Hey, bitch.

ANTHONY 33:16

I plead the fifth on this one. Here's the why, because I'll scroll through TikTok. I don't know if you've ever come across these, but these are in my algorithm. It's always like lately what it's been is So you're not pleading the fifth. I am. Oh, okay. I am.

NALEE 33:31

Okay.

ANTHONY 33:31

But I come across these TikToks where it's you know where they do the pictures and you have to like swipe through them.

NALEE 33:36

Yeah.

ANTHONY 33:37

And it's like five things, whatever.

NALEE 33:40

Five things you should follow to live a happier life. Yes, yes.

ANTHONY 33:43

And lately, I don't know if the ones that you come across, but all the ones that I come across, like I come across multiple in a day.

NALEE 33:50

Okay.

ANTHONY 33:51

And it must be the thing they're playing a Taylor Swift song, ironically, with it. Okay. Coincidentally.

NALEE 33:55

Coincidentally.

ANTHONY 33:57

But one of the things that I always come across with those is there's always a saying, it's something along the lines of like move in silence and only speak when it's time to say checkmate.

NALEE 34:08

I love that. I love that quote. Yeah, I love that quote.

ANTHONY 34:12

Yeah, I think I think it's very important that we don't need to tell everybody what our plans are.

SPEAKER_02 34:20

Yeah.

ANTHONY 34:21

Or what we're doing in life. It's not necessary.

NALEE 34:28

Yeah. Okay.

ANTHONY 34:31

So the other phrase that I've come across is, and this is another reason that I don't don't want to say any more about what I'm preparing for.

NALEE 34:41

Okay.

ANTHONY 34:42

But don't tell people your plans, show them your results.

NALEE 34:45

Yeah, I love that. I love that.

ANTHONY 34:46

Yeah. So that that's why I'm pleading the fifth because I don't need to announce anything that I'm preparing for or anything, any plans that I have. That's one thing that I've learned in like, you know, when we were applying for jobs.

SPEAKER_02 35:00

Yeah.

ANTHONY 35:01

When we were at the further and we were preparing to leave. I always hated that fact of being like, Yeah, hey, I applied at this place. Oh, I got an interview. I had an interview. Yeah. And I'm gonna get a second interview, or I should get a second interview. And then it doesn't happen. And then I, you know, a week later somebody's like, oh, whatever happened to that job. Oh yeah, never heard back.

SPEAKER_02 35:19

Yeah.

ANTHONY 35:20

So it's like I can prevent that from happening by not telling you when it's done and the I's are dotted, the T's are crossed, and the money's in my bank account, you'll know.

NALEE 35:30

I love that. Yeah, that's obviously it's it kind of relates to what I do. Like I don't post a lot of stuff on social media. And then by the time you know it, I already got it. You don't need to know how I did it.

ANTHONY 35:43

Yeah, that's true. You you've gotten really good about not posting to social media until after the fact.

NALEE 35:48

I don't know. I don't really post anything at all on social media anymore.

ANTHONY 35:51

You don't really post anything at all, but when you do, it's after the fact.

NALEE 35:55

Yeah, it's the small wins for me. Like I don't need people to it's like I ain't gonna be taking a fall photo every year. It's just gonna be like when you see me v on vacation, that's when I'll post it. Or, you know, like it's not the thing of like I do it like how should I say it? It's like the once in a lifetime kind of things that I would post up compared to things that people do all the time already. You know what I mean?

ANTHONY 36:17

That makes sense. Like buying your house. Yeah. Or getting a new car.

NALEE 36:20

Yeah.

ANTHONY 36:21

Or yeah.

NALEE 36:21

Even buying my house and I think a new car. I think I don't think I posted on social media. But I don't think I did. But it was like it wasn't videos, like you could see that oh, there's a house. Oh man. Or like I'm thinking. Yeah. But yeah, I I truly believe in that. I think it's kind of the thing of silence speaks louder than words, you know, because again, yes, there's a thing of like you speak things into manifestation. I I understand that, but it's the the the letdown you get when you don't get it.

SPEAKER_05 36:53

Right.

NALEE 36:54

So it's to prepare for failure. You don't say anything at all until you accomplish it.

ANTHONY 36:59

Until you accomplish it, yeah. And I think that's what I'm starting to like get into and realize more now.

NALEE 37:05

You're moving quietly.

ANTHONY 37:07

I'm moving quietly. Yes.

NALEE 37:08

Okay. Well then what's a dream you haven't spoken out loud yet?

ANTHONY 37:12

I'm gonna plead the fifth again on that.

NALEE 37:14

I was gonna say you gonna you gonna speak out loud?

ANTHONY 37:16

I'm gonna plead the fifth.

NALEE 37:17

Okay.

ANTHONY 37:18

But I will tell you a random dream that I had the other day.

NALEE 37:23

Okay, was it about me?

ANTHONY 37:24

No, this was the literally the stupidest dream.

NALEE 37:27

Okay.

ANTHONY 37:28

And this is gonna be our funny segment for this episode.

SPEAKER_02 37:31

Okay.

ANTHONY 37:32

So I had a we we've been watching a lot of like YouTube videos night lately.

SPEAKER_01 37:38

Okay.

ANTHONY 37:38

Like af before dinner, after dinner. And they're

A Weird Dream And Cheap Upgrades

ANTHONY 37:43

always like, I don't know, and I just want to preface this was not my doing. So don't come for me with what I'm about to say.

NALEE 37:51

Okay.

ANTHONY 37:52

So like one night, one night I was sitting on the couch and all of a sudden, like, Richard just started putting on like Taylor Swift performances on YouTube, like live performances, but not like like concerts. So like when she was on Jimmy Fallon, when she did, I don't remember what it's called, like behind the desk.

SPEAKER_02 38:09

Okay.

ANTHONY 38:09

I don't know, whatever. Little small things like that, not a big concert thing. But the other night we were watching clips of like Wicked.

NALEE 38:20

Okay.

ANTHONY 38:21

And he's like obsessed with Wicked Radio. Is he? Oh my god, obsessed.

NALEE 38:25

I love Wicked too.

ANTHONY 38:27

I love Wicked too, but I'm like, all right. But we had a conversation about how he has a newfound respect for Ariana Grande because he's he's not familiar with her music or her her voice or her abilities, but he said that with her playing Glinda, yeah, it really amplified his respect for her and showcased her vocal range.

NALEE 38:47

Oh no, she's really good.

ANTHONY 38:48

She's amazing. So then we went down the rabbit hole and we started like watching performances of hers. And I'm like, you need to see this. I showed him the God is the woman one that she did, and Yeah.

NALEE 38:59

I'm just kidding. Yeah, sing it. Sing it. Let's recreate that night at the happy hollow. I don't know the lyrics. I forgot the lyrics. The night at the hollow. The night at the hollow I'll post that to socials. Not my best. That was not my best.

ANTHONY 39:12

I thought you were amazing.

NALEE 39:13

No, that was not my best report.

ANTHONY 39:14

I mean, that could have been the alcohol talking, but yeah. No, you were good.

NALEE 39:18

Thank you.

ANTHONY 39:19

But anyway, so that night I had a dream, and this was just after she had that attack on the red carpet.

NALEE 39:24

Oh, the guy hugging her?

ANTHONY 39:25

Yeah.

NALEE 39:26

Yeah.

ANTHONY 39:26

That's so fucking stupid.

NALEE 39:28

And Cynthia was like, Don't touch my woman.

ANTHONY 39:30

Yeah. And I saw the video from a different angle with Jeff Goldblum, and he like backed away. I'm like, why are the two women jumping in and the man is backing up? Yeah, yeah.

NALEE 39:39

He was a whoa, whoa. Whoa, yeah, he was. It's not my time yet.

ANTHONY 39:45

I don't do this. This is too rough. But I had a dream that I was, I'm pretty sure we were in Target, and I was shopping with Cynthia Rivo and Ariana Grande.

NALEE 39:54

Okay.

ANTHONY 39:56

And Ariana started, she held up these, it looked like two like mini skirts to show Cynthia, and it had Glinda and Alphaba on them. I'm fucking chattered. And I just went up to her and I put my hand on her shoulder and I was like, I'm really sorry that that guy attacked.

NALEE 40:11

I hate you.

ANTHONY 40:13

And then next thing I knew, I heard Anthony. And the dog was up, and I had to take the dog out.

NALEE 40:20

I fucking love that.

ANTHONY 40:21

It was the most random dream.

NALEE 40:24

I'm sorry that happened to you. Dead.

ANTHONY 40:29

But we were also just about to have a very serious moment, and then I woke up. So I'll never know how that dream ends.

NALEE 40:34

Yeah. Okay. That's hilarious.

ANTHONY 40:36

Yeah.

NALEE 40:39

I'm sorry that happened. Yeah. Okay. So these next questions are just kind of like random ones. What's a recent purchase under $20 that genuinely improved your life?

ANTHONY 40:50

A new shower head.

NALEE 40:51

Yes.

ANTHONY 40:52

I bought a new shower head. Unfortunately, it doesn't have the full the same settings as its predecessor. If you catch my drift, kicker.

SPEAKER_02 41:01

Stupid. I'm just kidding.

ANTHONY 41:02

No, but it doesn't. Unfortunately, it's like it like lessens the water pressure, which I really hate. Okay.

NALEE 41:09

Yeah, I hate shower heads with like low pressure. Yeah.

ANTHONY 41:12

There's a way. You can go inside. There's a little filter thing that you can pull out. Okay. So I'm debating on a little bit of a little bit more.

NALEE 41:18

But wouldn't that make the dirt the water like unfiltered?

ANTHONY 41:21

No, I don't think it's like a filter filter. I think it's just meant to lessen the pressure.

NALEE 41:25

Oh, okay. Got it. Okay. What's the most Anthony thing you've ever done?

ANTHONY 41:29

The most Anthony thing that I've ever done, and I consistently do this. I still do it till this day. I'm working on it and I need to stop, is overthinking a text or a conversation I had with somebody. It happens way too often, especially when it's a text message, an email, or a Teams message at work. Because again, the biggest thing with text is you never know the context of it.

NALEE 41:51

I I do I believe you. I think there are times where you messaged me and then you would message me like an a day later, hours later, be like, hey, I just hope that I didn't come across blah, blah, blah, blah,

Overthinking Texts And Being Blunt

NALEE 42:01

blah. And I'm like, I don't even think of it like that. You know what I mean?

ANTHONY 42:04

So well, that actually is sort of the same thing, but also different, which can also lead into another Anthony thing that I do is I always feel if and I I'm sure this is my anxiety. I always feel that I'm coming across bitchy, rude, and aggressive.

NALEE 42:22

Okay. My question to that is I'm very direct with people. Did somebody tell you that you're being like that? Is that why you feel like that? Or is that just something you feel like you are feeling while you're messaging it?

ANTHONY 42:33

Like were you like Yeah, I don't think it's ever something that I feel when I'm messaging it. I feel it after I've messaged or after I've talked to somebody. Like even some of the conversations that we've had with what's going on in our lives. Yeah. Is like, you know, there was that one time we had that conversation, and then I texted you. I'm like, hey, I'm really sorry. I hope I didn't offend you. Or like because I do come off aggressive, direct.

NALEE 42:55

I don't think you do. And like I think that's the thing.

ANTHONY 42:58

Blunt. That's what it is. I come across or I come off very blunt, very opinionated, and I'm very strong in my convictions on a lot of things. And that can be interpreted as bitchy.

NALEE 43:10

Okay.

ANTHONY 43:11

And I know, I know that it's all in my own head. Because I mean, think of all the times at the further that's like you're bitchy. Think of all the times at the further that I would like get off a phone call or something. And then I would go into office and I'd be like, just an FYI, you're probably gonna be getting a call from so and so with a complaint for me. Because I was rude. It's phasha. That motherfucker got paid by the question. Same question. Yes, the same damn question, ten different ways.

NALEE 43:39

Yeah. I will tell you though, I think when you in your head, when you're trying to word things, you try to filter out a lot of like emotions from it so that you have like a clear point that you're trying to get across. And I'm just saying in general as a person. So then in your head, you're thinking these words that are. Oh, I shouldn't say this because it's gonna come out angry. So then when you're reading a conversation, you think about the feelings that you felt when you wrote it. So then that's when you start to question everything. But it's it actually doesn't come off that way because you've already filtered everything prior to writing it. Cause I know just with you specifically, like we bounce back off like stuff like, oh, how does this sound? Or does this sound weird? And it sounds fine. But I think again, it comes to your head where when you're feeling those emotions and you're writing it down and you submitted whatever you wrote, you still have those feelings lingering. So then that's why you kind of like think about like, oh, was this too like bitchy or you know, things like that.

SPEAKER_05 44:38

I agree with that.

NALEE 44:40

But I will say here we go, y'all. Anything that I've received from you has not come off of come off like that. I think just because you are blunt doesn't necessarily mean that it's mean or rude or anything. But then again, it could be like everybody's personal taste, but to me, I prefer somebody who's blunt compared to somebody who sugarcoats it and then I get fucked up in the end.

ANTHONY 45:03

I think that's part of it, and I think that's that's kind of what it might even boil down to.

NALEE 45:07

Okay.

ANTHONY 45:08

Two last things that I'm gonna say on that. One thing, I think part of that may have stemmed from an English class that I had where we had to write a s, I don't know, a report or a story or something like that.

SPEAKER_02 45:20

Okay.

ANTHONY 45:20

And then we had to swap it with somebody else in our class, swap our papers and read them.

NALEE 45:25

Okay.

ANTHONY 45:25

And I made a girl cry.

NALEE 45:28

Little bitch. And that's not all you. She's a crybaby.

ANTHONY 45:32

Well, you don't know what I said.

unknown 45:34

Okay.

NALEE 45:35

Ooh, okay.

ANTHONY 45:36

Okay. So you know in high school, when you wrote reports or you wrote stories, they always said you have to start with an attention grabber. You have to grab your audience's attention.

NALEE 45:45

Okay.

ANTHONY 45:46

So I she handed me her paper and I started reading it, and I handed it back to her. I was like, this is boring. I don't even want to read this.

NALEE 45:52

Okay.

ANTHONY 45:52

I was like, there's no attention grabber. There's nothing.

NALEE 45:55

Well, you're giving her critical criticism.

ANTHONY 45:58

I was giving her constructive criticism.

NALEE 46:00

Yeah, that's what I meant to say.

ANTHONY 46:00

But it was a poor delivery on my part.

NALEE 46:03

Yeah.

ANTHONY 46:03

But she started crying about it. And so I felt bad about that.

NALEE 46:06

No, she has a little bitch. She could have done better.

ANTHONY 46:08

I think she could have. Yeah. I'm still friends with her on Facebook, and every time I see some her something pop up, I think that that's my core memory of her is me making her cry.

NALEE 46:18

You're like, you should comment sometimes on her shit and just be like, this is boring. It has no attention grabbers.

ANTHONY 46:25

You're not grabbing anybody's attention. Yeah.

NALEE 46:27

Yeah. She's like, my dog died. Oh my god. That's dead.

ANTHONY 46:33

Well, give us details.

NALEE 46:34

Yeah.

ANTHONY 46:35

And then part two, in all seriousness though, I do think a lot of that did stem from the further. Um, just because you know all the like difficult conversations that we had to have.

SPEAKER_00 46:45

Yeah.

ANTHONY 46:46

And again, this it does tie in with the fact that I have no patience for stupidity.

SPEAKER_00 46:50

Yeah.

ANTHONY 46:51

Like, how are you going to tell me that smoking is not going to play a role in a sinus surgery?

SPEAKER_00 46:58

Yeah.

ANTHONY 46:58

How as a doctor are you going to look me in the face and tell me that me smoking is not going to affect a sinus surgery? Again, no patience for stupidity.

NALEE 47:08

Yeah. My God, we had to answer that question so many fucking times.

ANTHONY 47:12

So many times.

NALEE 47:12

It's just like, you want your nose to rot? You know? Like.

ANTHONY 47:17

I don't We're not even going to go there. Yeah.

NALEE 47:20

Anyways. Okay. So I know we're kind of on our time crunch, so I'm going to ask the We're not on time crunch.

ANTHONY 47:27

If we go a little bit over, that's fine.

NALEE 47:29

Okay, never mind. Never mind. I'm sorry. Okay. Well, I'll ask some questions that I really wanted to ask you. Okay. And then you ask away. Yeah. Okay. So if you were or if your personality were a mashup of two animals, which would which two would it be?

ANTHONY 47:44

A tiger or a lion and a dolphin.

NALEE 47:47

Why?

ANTHONY 47:48

Because I can be vicious and attack you, stand my ground, fight for what I need to fight for. Okay. But at the same time, I feel like I can be very playful.

NALEE 47:58

Okay.

ANTHONY 47:58

Which a dolphin dolphins are playful. They can be violent.

NALEE 48:02

They're really mean. Dolphins? Yeah. Did you not know that dolphins are the bully of the sea?

ANTHONY 48:06

No, they're not. Orcas are.

NALEE 48:08

They are. They're bullies.

ANTHONY 48:09

Orcas.

NALEE 48:10

And they're really horny, apparently.

ANTHONY 48:12

Yeah, I know. I knew that part. Oh. Giggity.

NALEE 48:14

Giggity giggity.

ANTHONY 48:15

That's why I chose a dolphin.

NALEE 48:17

I know. Okay. All right. Let's see. My next question is. Oh, okay. If your life had a warning label, what would it say?

ANTHONY 48:27

Caution. Stay away for your own safety.

NALEE 48:29

Okay.

ANTHONY 48:29

Stay away for your own safety.

NALEE 48:31

Why?

ANTHONY 48:31

You're such If people are going to approach me, I want them to I want them to know. Maybe that should be it. Caution, approach at your own risk. Because again, no patience for stupidity. If you come to me with something stupid, I'm just the older I get, the more I have less patience, and I'm like wearing thin with people.

NALEE 48:51

So don't come near me, I'm wearing thin.

ANTHONY 48:54

Don't come near me. Yeah. Don't come near me. I'm wearing thin. Proceed at your own risk.

NALEE 48:59

Okay. I love that.

ANTHONY 49:01

Again, I can be I can come off as aggressive.

NALEE 49:04

It's okay. We love it. We love the aggressiveness.

ANTHONY 49:06

Some people do, some people don't.

NALEE 49:07

Yeah, that's true. Okay. Let's see. Okay. Do you have any oddly specific rules you follow that no one else understands?

ANTHONY 49:18

I don't necessarily think that I have any rules that I live by.

SPEAKER_02 49:24

Okay.

ANTHONY 49:25

Or that I follow. But I mean there are basic life like principles that I live by.

NALEE 49:30

Okay.

ANTHONY 49:31

Like I'm not gonna entertain bullshit anymore.

NALEE 49:34

Okay.

ANTHONY 49:34

I'm too old for the drama.

NALEE 49:36

Okay. I like that.

ANTHONY 49:37

It's like, you know, Melissa was texting us about Love is Blind.

NALEE 49:42

Yeah.

ANTHONY 49:42

And like I enjoyed watching it,

Reality TV Fatigue And Drama Rules

ANTHONY 49:44

but now it's at the point where I'm like, I'm honestly I'm just disgusted by it.

NALEE 49:47

Yeah.

ANTHONY 49:48

I don't under like I don't understand. Okay, this it's it's a double-edged sword because I still watch like Selling Sunset. But I feel like that drama is nothing like the drama on Love is Blind.

SPEAKER_00 50:00

Yeah.

ANTHONY 50:01

And for me personally, Love is Blind needs to be done with. They need to 86 that shit.

NALEE 50:07

It's just It's because love isn't love isn't blind. Love isn't blind.

ANTHONY 50:12

Love can be blind, but it's just the whole premise of the show. Now it's no longer like season one and season two, I feel like we're truly about finding somebody to spend their life with. Past that, I feel I feel I honestly feel like it became more of young people's ticket to Hollywood.

NALEE 50:30

Yeah, they're just trying to get clout.

ANTHONY 50:31

They're just trying to get clout. They're just trying to become, you know, get those social media followers. And I mean, some of those people make pretty good money just from being on the show. Yeah, they're pretty much. Like to get these endorsement deals, and it's like, it's not realistic. They literally go on the show to be drama, to get the show time, to get the air time.

SPEAKER_02 50:51

Yeah.

ANTHONY 50:52

And it's it's almost embarrassing to us as a society. And that I mean, that's how I feel about like the bachelor and the bachelorette and the golden bachelor and the golden bachelorette. Like, come on. It's sickening. It's it's almost embarrassing at this point.

NALEE 51:07

Okay.

ANTHONY 51:08

I mean And and on top of it, for like specifically for Love is Blind, okay. So you're gonna get these people together and you're literally providing them alcohol. You're adding fuel to the flame. Like you're just fanning it and making it bigger.

NALEE 51:21

Yeah.

ANTHONY 51:22

Waiting for something to happen.

NALEE 51:23

Because honestly, when everybody's drunk and having fun, they could all be really compatible. You know what I mean?

ANTHONY 51:28

Yeah. Or things can go completely slow. Yeah. People are throwing drinks at each other, and you're fucking bitch, and she's talking to him, and he's Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just it's too much drama for me. I'm done with that show.

NALEE 51:40

I do like Love is Blind. I will say I have comments on the show on this season, but we're not gonna talk about it now.

ANTHONY 51:46

Yeah.

NALEE 51:46

But we should talk about it on one of these episodes for sure. I want to talk about it.

ANTHONY 51:50

You can talk about it for sure. I haven't watched it.

NALEE 51:52

Oh, okay.

ANTHONY 51:52

And I won't watch it.

NALEE 51:53

Yeah. Well, we could talk about selling sunset and selling the OC because I just finished them too. So I think the difference though between selling sunset and selling or and love is blind is selling sunset for me, it actually talks about things that I'm actually interested in, like real estate. Like I've always been interested in that. I think it it's just like selling houses and when you see the luxury homes like these people are living in, you're just like, damn, I feel like a fucking peasant, you know?

ANTHONY 52:23

I that I just I was selling Deja the other day. I was like, really? The only reason that I watch the show is because I like looking at the houses and like getting different concepts for like if and when we win the lottery and I build a lot of people. Go to Florida.

NALEE 52:34

Yeah, exactly. So but okay, on to our next question.

ANTHONY 52:39

Wait, were you gonna explain what the difference was?

NALEE 52:41

Difference of what?

ANTHONY 52:42

Selling sunset and love is blind. Yeah, well like specifically for the drama.

NALEE 52:46

Oh yeah, that's just it. Is that like selling sunset, they have things that I'm actually interested in. Like I want to be knowledgeable about because they kind of talk about real estate-ish stuff here and there. Oh then like and s compared to like Love is Blind, you clearly could see that these people are just full of drama.

ANTHONY 53:04

They're not there with like clear intentions.

NALEE 53:06

Yeah, like the again, the first two seasons were like, okay, they were kind of solid. And then maybe, I don't know, season four, there were some people that you could tell were like genuine. But then like after that, like we're on what season eight, nine? And like none of these people have been together. You know what I mean? And they're just the thing about it is that Nicola Shea and Vanessa They gotta go home.

SPEAKER_05 53:30

The show's gonna stay, they gotta go.

NALEE 53:31

They're hosting like five different shows. Like they're hosting um Love Island, they're hosting The Ultimatum. The Ultimatum. And so the thing is like they recycle those people who has already been in the show, and it doesn't give people who actually wants a genuine choice to like be on it. You know what I mean? Yeah, because like people from Love is Blind is now on like Love Island, and I'm just like they didn't make their match in Love is Blind. Why are they gonna get another chance to be on another show in somebody else? You know what I mean?

ANTHONY 53:59

Wholeheartedly agree with that. We should not be lifting these people up. If you're on a show like Love is Blind and you don't find love, you shouldn't be able to go on another reality show to try and find love.

NALEE 54:10

Yeah.

ANTHONY 54:10

Like what's his name is trash. The guy that was very drowsy.

NALEE 54:15

No, not him. I know you'd think he's hot, but the guy who was like crazy with Natalie, with the Korean girl Natalie, was it what's his name? And he was blonde and he was like Oh, Shane. Shane, yeah. Like he was like recycled through the show. AD was recycled to the show.

ANTHONY 54:32

And they went on different shows. A lot of them were.

NALEE 54:34

Yeah, and Francesca.

ANTHONY 54:36

Francesca.

NALEE 54:36

She was like on all she was on like on three shows, and I'm just like, do you guys are recycling people? Like, get some new stuff at least, or like use different people.

ANTHONY 54:45

Mix up the seasons, like yeah. I will tell you though, one show they don't they do the exact same thing that they did the last season. Like, there's no surprise. Yeah, there's no surprise. Yeah, maybe if they did that, it would be a little bit more intense for the people that were on the show.

SPEAKER_00 54:58

Yeah.

ANTHONY 54:59

But it's like these people that are applying and auditioning to go into the show, they already know what they're going into it for.

NALEE 55:05

Yeah, yeah.

ANTHONY 55:06

They already know how the season's gonna go, they know what to expect. They're just there to be on camera.

NALEE 55:11

Yeah.

ANTHONY 55:11

And when we start talking about shows like Love Island or Too Hot to Handle, those are just shows for horny people to have sex.

NALEE 55:17

Yeah, literally it. They go on a nice vacation to go have sex and that's it. Yeah. And they get paid for endorsements and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 55:23

Yeah.

NALEE 55:23

But I was gonna say we could probably talk about this on another episode. I'll keep asking you new questions. Sorry. Okay. So what's a childhood habit you never fully grew out of?

ANTHONY 55:35

I'm working on this because it is a double-edged sword, but like dreaming and wanting more.

NALEE 55:40

Okay. I love that.

ANTHONY 55:42

I always used to like daydream as a kid and like what I wanted my life to be and what I wanted out of life. And now I still do it. I just try not to do it as much.

NALEE 55:54

Okay.

ANTHONY 55:55

Just because it can be.

NALEE 55:57

Yeah. I think when we get older, I think it's uh it's

Daydreaming, The Simpsons, And Peace

NALEE 56:02

a wonderful thing that you dream big and you know, you create that hope that hey, like one day I'll be able to do that. I want to dream more. But I think as we get older, those lines kind of blur between what is reality, we have to what is my lifestyle, and what can I actually accomplish compared to something where you dream about it, you want to do it, but it and realistically it's not gonna happen.

ANTHONY 56:26

Right. A hundred percent. Yeah. The older that we get, we have to be a little bit more realistic in what we're dreaming and what we're wanting in life.

NALEE 56:33

Okay, good answer. No, I'm all emotional. What cartoon character or show shaped you the most?

ANTHONY 56:41

The Simpsons.

NALEE 56:46

That reminds me of you saying that you know how to speak Spanish to our Uber driver.

ANTHONY 56:50

Un Poquito.

NALEE 56:51

Yeah. Un poquito.

ANTHONY 56:53

Un poquito. I think as far as the Simpsons go, that was probably one of the more adult cartoon shows that I watched as a child. And it truly does have a little bit of everything rolled into it, right? So you have Marge, who's like, who taught like to be nourishing and caring and empathetic.

SPEAKER_00 57:14

Yeah.

ANTHONY 57:14

You had Bart, who taught you how to be, you know, rebellious. Lisa, inquisitive, curious, question thing, wanting to learn. And then Homer was kind of, for me anyway, just the one who basically taught you not to take life well for me, taught me not to take life so seriously and to just enjoy life and like, you know, roll with things.

NALEE 57:36

Yeah.

ANTHONY 57:37

Things will work out.

NALEE 57:38

Yeah.

ANTHONY 57:38

Right?

NALEE 57:39

Yeah.

ANTHONY 57:39

So yeah, I would say The Simpsons.

NALEE 57:41

Okay. I love that. I love The Simpsons.

ANTHONY 57:43

Do you?

NALEE 57:44

Yeah.

ANTHONY 57:44

Yeah.

NALEE 57:45

Okay. So we're gonna kinda turn the like wheel the other direction.

SPEAKER_05 57:52

The wheel? The other direction.

NALEE 57:53

So if you could create your own holiday, what would it be called and how would you celebrate it?

ANTHONY 57:59

Uh Anthony's Day where everybody lined up to come and kiss my feet.

NALEE 58:03

Your webbed feet.

ANTHONY 58:05

My webbed feet.

NALEE 58:05

Yeah. Your cute feet.

ANTHONY 58:07

My cute webbed feet.

NALEE 58:08

Yeah.

ANTHONY 58:10

No, for real, I don't know what I would name this, but I would come up with like a non-violent version of like the purge.

NALEE 58:17

Okay. It just reminded me. Like all those, all those pageant shows where they're like, what do you want the most or what is your accomplishment? They're all like, I'd watch world peace. That's what it reminds me of.

ANTHONY 58:31

I had like world peace.

NALEE 58:33

Yeah, it reminds me of Miss Congeniality.

ANTHONY 58:35

That's what I was thinking of too, yeah.

NALEE 58:37

Okay. Yeah, but no, just just imagine.

ANTHONY 58:39

Again, this goes back to the beginning of the interview. Like the song Imagine by John Legend. But seriously, just imagine if we lived in a world where even just one day a year, everybody was nice, there was no judgment, there was no critiques of anybody, nobody had anything bad to say, people got along. People didn't c care if they were sitting next to somebody who was black on the bus. They, you know, didn't care if I don't know, a gang rolled down their street. I mean, imagine I mean, it would be nice if the world was like that every day. But there's just so much hatred and ignorance and just harshness in this world that imagine if we had a day where none of that, like all of that just ceased to exist.

NALEE 59:24

Yeah, we got some nasty people up in this world, for sure.

ANTHONY 59:28

That's what I think I would want.

NALEE 59:29

Okay.

ANTHONY 59:30

I don't know if it would be considered a holiday, but But it'd be called Anthony's Day of Peace. I like that. I like the sound of that.

NALEE 59:37

Yes. Peace Day for Anthony.

ANTHONY 59:40

Peace Day. No, I like Anthony's Day of Peace.

NALEE 59:42

Yeah. Okay.

ANTHONY 59:43

Why are you laughing at me?

NALEE 59:44

Nothing. It's just think about misconception. Yeah.

ANTHONY 59:47

Anthony's Day of World Peace.

NALEE 59:49

Yeah.

ANTHONY 59:49

That's what I want it called.

NALEE 59:51

Yeah. Okay. What's a personal or sorry? What's a personality flaw you've come to accept as a quirky side character or trait?

ANTHONY 1:00:01

A flaw of mine, and I think I kind of touched on this earlier, but like I have an opinion on everything.

NALEE 1:00:06

Okay. So you're an ass.

ANTHONY 1:00:08

I guess. Does that make me an ass?

NALEE 1:00:10

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:00:10

Why?

NALEE 1:00:11

Oh, wait, not an ass. No, you have an ass, is what I meant to say. So you have an ass, because everybody has one. Remember? Like an opinion?

ANTHONY 1:00:18

Oh.

NALEE 1:00:18

Yeah. I don't know.

ANTHONY 1:00:19

An opinion's like an asshole. Everybody has one.

NALEE 1:00:22

My brain wasn't computing. I couldn't. Okay. Yeah. You know what I was saying?

ANTHONY 1:00:25

I know what you meant. I was confused at first, but now we're on the same page. But yeah, I have an opinion about everything. But what I will say about that that that flaw is I'm not going to be intrusive with my opinions on things.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:39

Okay.

ANTHONY 1:00:40

Unless like if you come to me with something and you tell me a story or ask for my opinion, yes, I will give it. But like if I see that you're having a conversation with Kalia, is it okay that I say her name?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:56

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:00:57

Okay. If I see that you're having a conversation back and forth with Khalia on Facebook or Instagram and I have something to say about it, I'm not gonna chime in. That's not my place. That's not my conversation.

NALEE 1:01:06

Okay. Okay. What's the most chaotic thing you've ever done that somehow worked out perfectly?

ANTHONY 1:01:13

I don't think that I've ever done anything really chaotically that has worked out.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:17

Okay.

ANTHONY 1:01:18

My initial thought was to say that my move to California, which was very chaotic, random, and just like spur of the moment sort of thing. But clearly I'm in Wisconsin, so that didn't really work out. Okay. My first job in healthcare administration.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:37

Okay.

ANTHONY 1:01:38

I feel like I've grown so much from that experience and like learned so much about our healthcare system, how it works, how to navigate it. I've had, I'm in my third job or third company since working healthcare. So I've been in the healthcare administration sector for over 10 years now. And it, I mean, it worked out. I I feel more confident. I I for the most part, I know my shit. I know how it works. I know how to navigate

Healthcare Work And Insurance Reality

ANTHONY 1:02:08

it. Unfortunately, there was a downside with that.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:11

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:02:11

And the downside for me is I understand too much of our healthcare system. And I truly people are always saying the healthcare system is broken. Baby girl, let me tell you, unless you work in the healthcare system, you will never truly, yeah, truly understand how fucked up our healthcare system is.

NALEE 1:02:31

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:02:32

And so, like, that's the downside of it is I see how shitty it is.

NALEE 1:02:36

Yeah. And I think the thing with that, I will add, is that when you work in the healthcare industry, I feel like you have the instinct to help people. And a lot of the times when you actually do work in the healthcare system, you realize that as much as it sucks, you can't actually help people the way you want to. So it is you go into thinking that it's a rewarding job, but you come out knowing that it's it's not.

ANTHONY 1:03:02

It's not.

NALEE 1:03:03

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:03:03

So and it one of the things that makes it difficult for me is like, so my very first role was working alongside providers in like the clinic setting. And then my second role was working for the insurance company. And so I've seen both sides of the healthcare spectrum.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:24

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:03:24

And, you know, the insurance company is always blaming the providers. The providers are always blaming the insurance company. Yeah. And the insurance I will say this, and this is a hill that I will die on. People get pissed at their insurance a lot.

NALEE 1:03:36

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:03:36

Though I don't always agree with health insurance, people get pissed off at the health insurance for the wrong reasons.

NALEE 1:03:41

Agreed.

ANTHONY 1:03:42

And again, a hill I will die on. If you're going to be upset that your insurance isn't covering something, people need to understand that just because your doctor wants to order something doesn't mean it's necessarily what you need.

NALEE 1:03:55

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:03:56

And if people are going to throw out, well, it's all about money for the healthcare or the health insurance company. That's all they care about is trying to save bottom dollar. Well, there is some truth to that. Health insurance is a business.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:11

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:04:11

At the end of the day, they have to look at the bottom dollar. And if we want to live in a world where your doctor should be able to order whatever they want, you should be able to get it with no issue without any hurdles or red tape from the insurance company, then we need to live in a world where we have free health inside.

NALEE 1:04:27

Free health insurance. Yeah. Yeah. And if you get into like the nitty-gritty of it, like for example, with us, we have the opportunity to work for the insurance and for the provider side. So we kind of see both sides of the spectrum. And yeah, like what I've come to learn is again, I and I do agree with you, uh, might not be a hill that I'm gonna die on, but like you learn that when being working in the health or the insurance industry, you as a patient, you're actually responsible for knowing what you have coverage for. And I think, you know, like when we worked at a prior place, you learned that like just because you're an insurance or your insurance covers it or they're your health insurance, doesn't mean that everything's covered. So you also have to do research on your part to be like, oh, is my insurance gonna cover this? Do I need to reach out to them to get some kind of like authorization? And that's kind of where the disconnect is where they blame the insurance a lot for it, where they're like, well, they should know, but technically they don't know anything up until a request is sent to them, up until medical information or medical records are given. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 1:05:34

Yeah.

NALEE 1:05:34

So I mean, that's besides the point, but it's the nitty gritty that once you get into the healthcare system, it's just it's a fucking mess.

ANTHONY 1:05:41

It's the nitty gritty that the average Joe doesn't understand because and this goes back to something we discussed in a previous episode was nobody teaches health insurance. You just think that you play you pay a premium, yeah, and then you get what you want. It's not that easy. And as much as it pains me to say this, it can be a gray arrow.

NALEE 1:06:01

Damn it, Anthony. That's my light.

ANTHONY 1:06:04

I know.

NALEE 1:06:04

I mean it's not my light, but yeah. Okay. Very valid points. Alright. These are some like again, we're gonna turn the wheel to the other direction now. If you had to survive a week in the wilderness using only items you currently have in your car right now, how doomed are you?

ANTHONY 1:06:23

I'm fucked.

NALEE 1:06:23

Why?

ANTHONY 1:06:24

Well, I mean, just for example, we live in Wisconsin and like I don't even do any winter prep in my car.

NALEE 1:06:30

Oh, really?

ANTHONY 1:06:31

Yeah, do you?

NALEE 1:06:31

Well, not any. Well, I do. I have pillows and blankets in my car.

ANTHONY 1:06:35

I have a pillow in my trunk. That is all I have. And oh, I took the blanket out. I have a pillow in my car. But I don't have anything.

NALEE 1:06:42

I don't But we don't drive too. We don't work.

ANTHONY 1:06:44

We don't drive either.

NALEE 1:06:45

Like to the

Survival Prep And Phone Addiction

NALEE 1:06:46

office, so I guess.

ANTHONY 1:06:47

Yeah.

NALEE 1:06:47

So technically speaking, you're not doomed because your car is the house. Yourself. It transports you into the house. So you're not doomed.

ANTHONY 1:06:55

Uh it's for the scenario. If I were in my car, I I would definitely be Yeah, you'd be done. I would be fucked. I don't keep any food in my car. I don't keep any bottled water. I don't keep boots in case I go into the ditch.

NALEE 1:07:07

I'd see you in the news within a week and they'd be like, We'd found this man in his car.

ANTHONY 1:07:12

Frozen to death.

NALEE 1:07:13

He was trying to reach for his pillow in the process of becoming frozen.

ANTHONY 1:07:16

Yeah.

NALEE 1:07:17

His name was Anthony.

ANTHONY 1:07:19

Yeah. That's how my that's how I want my obituary to read.

NALEE 1:07:21

I'm gonna be like, I done told him to put some pillows and some blankets in his car, but he didn't listen to me.

ANTHONY 1:07:28

I don't even have like an emergency roadside kit in my car. Do you?

NALEE 1:07:31

I did. But I because remember I got into a car accident.

ANTHONY 1:07:34

Yeah.

NALEE 1:07:34

But then I took it out. I should probably put it back in. But yeah.

unknown 1:07:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:38

Okay.

NALEE 1:07:39

Yeah, it's again cold. Okay. If your phone could talk, what's the first thing it would complain about?

ANTHONY 1:07:45

How much I'm on it.

NALEE 1:07:46

Really?

ANTHONY 1:07:47

Yeah.

NALEE 1:07:48

They're like, stop touching me.

ANTHONY 1:07:49

Yeah. It would be like, leave me alone for like five minutes.

NALEE 1:07:52

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:07:54

Okay. I'm constantly touching my phone to the point where I'm like, stop touching you. I've been acknowledging it more lately that I need to stop touching it. I think I'm getting like carpal tunnel from like being on my phone so much.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:08

That's possible.

ANTHONY 1:08:09

But it's like it's like I'm doing active stuff on my phone. Because right? We do so many things on the phone. My phone is my computer. Yeah. So I'm like trying to work on like merchandise stuff, trying to work on episodes, trying to edit, like researching things that I need to research, planning vacation, like right. Our phones now in now today's society, like our phones are our life.

NALEE 1:08:30

Yeah. That's that's 100% true.

ANTHONY 1:08:34

I was just thinking to myself yesterday, my uncle called me. I talked to him like three times in a matter of an hour yesterday. I'm like, all right. But the last time he called me, he's like, Yeah, I wanted to ask you, like, what's what I got this text message from ATT asking me to like log in and like something was happening with his dad or something. I'm like, dude, I pay the bill. If they're gonna text anybody, it's coming to me. Like it was clearly a scam. One of those like phishing links.

NALEE 1:09:00

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:09:01

And then I'm thinking, I started thinking, all we have as an option now, if you go to the store, is to get a smartphone or one of those dumbed down senior citizen phones.

NALEE 1:09:10

Like the flip phones?

ANTHONY 1:09:11

No, like the ones where it's like you press this button to call home, you press this button to call 911, that's it.

NALEE 1:09:17

They have those?

ANTHONY 1:09:17

Yeah, I think they're mainly for like kids or like really older senior citizens.

NALEE 1:09:22

Oh, I didn't know that.

ANTHONY 1:09:22

But I was thinking, I was like, why can't we? I almost wish that we would go back to the basics with phones and like Yeah. Yeah.

NALEE 1:09:29

I think it'll be better for us.

ANTHONY 1:09:31

Yeah. A hundred percent.

NALEE 1:09:34

Okay. All right. So this is my last question for you. If your life was judged solely on your search history, what award would you win?

ANTHONY 1:09:44

Dumbass of the year award.

NALEE 1:09:47

What?

ANTHONY 1:09:48

I feel like I researched such stupid things. Let me see if I can go through my phone history. Yeah, do it.

NALEE 1:09:55

Yes. Like what you search?

ANTHONY 1:09:58

I do a lot of like Googling? Well, I do do a lot of Googling, but like I've done a lot of IMDBing, because we'll like watch TV and I'll be like, what was he in? And then I go down the rabbit hole of like finding out who the actor is, what was he in? What I don't know if I want to share some of these.

Search History, Cranes, And Nature

NALEE 1:10:15

Share like the first three.

ANTHONY 1:10:17

Well, I don't even know what that one means.

NALEE 1:10:19

You searched it. How do you not know?

ANTHONY 1:10:20

Or why I searched that. Well, I searched because you texted me.

NALEE 1:10:24

Okay.

ANTHONY 1:10:25

What's the significance of Sandhill Cranes in Wisconsin?

NALEE 1:10:28

Oh, so you Googled it? You didn't even know it?

ANTHONY 1:10:30

No, I told you. I even said that in the text. I'm like, I don't know. Is this a trick question?

NALEE 1:10:36

Oh. Okay. Well then to uh That's for I'm gonna say their name.

ANTHONY 1:10:41

Yes.

NALEE 1:10:42

We came up with a name for her. I totally forgot. But we didn't. No, me and me and her. We came up with their name for her, so I could use it on the pod. But I don't know. I forgot what their name was. But anyways, she knows who who if you say the crane, she knows who she is. But yeah, she was talking to me about it. She's like, hey, ask Anthony if he knows this. And I'm like, oh my God. And so I asked you, and then she's like, wait, does he is he serious? And I'm like, I forgot what it was, but we're talking about cranes and shit.

ANTHONY 1:11:11

Serious about my answer?

NALEE 1:11:11

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

ANTHONY 1:11:12

I was because I Googled that.

NALEE 1:11:14

Well, I thought that you actually knew about it because I was like, what did I say?

ANTHONY 1:11:19

So wait, was it a trick question from her?

NALEE 1:11:21

No, because she she was talking about how you like watching birds, right? Bird watching. And then I took Okay, but and then she asked she was telling me, because you remember how I showed you those videos of the cranes in her in her like yard. Yeah. And so she's like, Yeah, we have these sandhill cranes that come into our yard and stuff. And I'm like, we were talking about like di that they're like the closest thing to dinosaurs or whatever. And I was like, oh, that's cool. And then she was like, I was like, oh yeah, I don't know anything about cranes. And she's like, wait, you don't know sandhill cranes? They're like Asian descent cranes and all this stuff. And she was telling me about it, and then I was like, I know nothing about cranes other than the word cranes. Like, that's all I know. And then she was like, ask Anthony, and I'm like, okay. And so then that's when I asked you. And so I thought you were like joking around because you're like, is this a trick question? I'm like, no, I'm asking you, do you know the significance?

ANTHONY 1:12:11

I didn't know that there wasn't shit.

NALEE 1:12:14

Because you have to remove that.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:17

Bitch.

NALEE 1:12:18

I forgot. Because I'ma call her, like, I don't know. I'm a crane. Crane lady. Yeah, I call her a crane lady. So crane lady was telling me that, oh, you should ask Anthony since she likes bird watching. And so then, so crane lady, apparently Anthony doesn't know what a sandhill crane is. He had a Google search it.

ANTHONY 1:12:36

Okay. Yeah, I'll openly admit to that. I Google searched it because you asked what the significance was.

NALEE 1:12:41

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:12:41

Like, I don't know what the significance is. And as far as bird watching goes, I just want to clarify, I bird watch in my backyard. It's not like I take my binoculars and go walk down by the river to see if I can find the white-breasted nuthatch. Well, I mean, I have those in my backyard.

NALEE 1:12:57

I hate you. Is that an actual bird? Yeah. Oh, I hate you. Well, the crane lady, she lives in the wilderness and she sees this in her front yard.

ANTHONY 1:13:06

I hate nature.

NALEE 1:13:07

You do?

ANTHONY 1:13:07

I hate going out in a I will- you will never find me on a hike bird watching.

NALEE 1:13:11

I'm shocked.

ANTHONY 1:13:12

Girl, you know how much I hate bugs.

NALEE 1:13:14

What do you do in Florida? And then just a beach?

ANTHONY 1:13:18

Yeah.

NALEE 1:13:18

Oh, here I thought. Okay, so Wait, what did you think?

ANTHONY 1:13:22

Did you think I was like an avid bird bird watcher?

NALEE 1:13:24

No, no, no. I thought you liked the wilderness because it's hot. And like you like nature and stuff. I'm clearly wrong because I totally forgot you like glamping, and that's also something we talked about.

ANTHONY 1:13:33

Yeah. Never mind. I don't like ticks. I don't like bugs.

NALEE 1:13:37

Okay. I just watched a video the other day where this We got Anthony completely wrong after this whole episode of the Oh my god, you're learning so much about me. Yeah, I'm learning so much about you.

ANTHONY 1:13:47

I just watched this video the other day where this family went down to Florida and they had to take their kid to the emergency room because he s his ear was itching.

NALEE 1:13:55

Ew! I already know. I don't want to know, but go ahead.

ANTHONY 1:13:58

What? What do you think it was?

NALEE 1:14:00

A bug? A spider?

ANTHONY 1:14:02

No. He had a crab in his ear. What the hell? It was the tiniest fucking crab. I was like, I didn't even know crabs were that small or could be that small.

NALEE 1:14:10

Was he like in the sand or something? How did could a crab get in his ear?

ANTHONY 1:14:14

I mean, maybe he was laying in the beach or something. On the beach and it crawled into his ear. I don't know.

NALEE 1:14:18

Ew, that's scary.

ANTHONY 1:14:20

But I was just mind-blown. So now there's there's a new fear for me when I go to the beach in Florida.

NALEE 1:14:26

Wear earplugs.

ANTHONY 1:14:28

I probably will know.

NALEE 1:14:29

Yeah. Wow.

ANTHONY 1:14:30

Yeah.

NALEE 1:14:30

Of all things, the four the 25 questions that I asked you.

ANTHONY 1:14:34

This was the most mind-blown. Yeah.

NALEE 1:14:39

That is crazy. So, Crane Lady, Anthony does not like the wilderness. We thought wrong of him.

ANTHONY 1:14:44

No.

NALEE 1:14:45

Okay.

ANTHONY 1:14:46

But getting back to like my Google search history. Okay, so we have ribbed bathtub.

NALEE 1:14:52

Okay. Why?

ANTHONY 1:14:53

Because we're going to be redoing Ribbed for your pleasure. Yeah. Ribbed for your pleasure. Because we're going to be redoing the bathroom in the basement.

NALEE 1:14:59

Oh, you are? Nice.

ANTHONY 1:15:02

And it's going to be like bougie. An oas. Like it's going to have a bathtub and an oasis because I'm I really want a bathtub.

NALEE 1:15:08

I love that.

ANTHONY 1:15:08

So I'm like getting ideas and researching.

NALEE 1:15:10

Yeah. That's not dumb at all.

ANTHONY 1:15:13

Before that, I researched this was because Deja messaged me about the song Sunset Reunion, which I had not yet watched.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:20

Okay.

ANTHONY 1:15:21

But she said that Mary had a Monroe piercing.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:24

Yeah. It's cute.

ANTHONY 1:15:25

I searched Mary selling Sunset Monroe piercing images because I wanted to see how it looked like. I couldn't find any pictures of it, so I had to wait to watch the reunion.

NALEE 1:15:33

Did you watch it yet still? I did. Okay.

ANTHONY 1:15:35

Yeah, I'm done with it.

NALEE 1:15:36

It was disappointing.

ANTHONY 1:15:37

Was it?

NALEE 1:15:37

Yeah. I feel like they should have gotten more. I want to see more like I want more drama. I want more drama. I feel like it was super exciting. Like they cut everything out.

ANTHONY 1:15:48

Biggest waste of time. Like I said, to Deja, I'm like, what the fuck was Romain doing there? They brought him out, they asked him a question and said, bye.

NALEE 1:15:55

Yeah. Yeah. Are you fucking kidding me? And this is unpopular opinion. Okay, now that we've talked about it, I'm just gonna talk a little bit about my opinion because I want to put this out there. People might hate me. I don't care. But my thing of the whole this spoiler, spoiler, spoiler alert.

ANTHONY 1:16:12

For season nine or whatever is whatever.

NALEE 1:16:18

The newest one that just came out. But like, first of all, Mary is like my favorite Selling Sunset character. 100% whatever person personality on the show. But the thing and the backlash that they've given Nicole, and you might not agree

Selling Sunset Arguments And Receipts

NALEE 1:16:35

on this, but I feel like people definitely blew it out of proportion. Because I am in agreement with Nicole, not about the dead parents or the parents part, but the the but what she pointed out as far as Christelle constantly talking about the drug addiction. Like it if you look at how much she brings it up every time she talks about Nicole, it's like girl, get it over with. You know what I mean? So to me, again, I'm looking Anthony's face is like moving over there. But yeah, Nicole is not my favorite character. I will say that she's not, but I agree with her that like every time they're in a group setting, Chriselle always brings up the drug issue, which she's already proven to them with the fucking drug test that she doesn't do drugs. Like that's already done. Like, stop talking about it. And so to me, I just feel like and Chriselle, she used to be my favorite one off of the on the show, but she's just become like a big bully, and she's just she's just not the old Christielle that I I liked from the beginning. So she's not, anyways. But my thing is I'm not gonna die on this hill, but I'm just saying unpopular opinion. I do understand the backlash that Nicole gave to Chriselle for the fact that she does constantly bring up the drug addiction, but obviously, excuse me, I think that the comment about her parent was parent was definitely uncalled for. But yeah, that was my opinion on that. But the yeah, the last reunion was shit. Like, right when they were about to get at each other, they they quit. And I'm just like, why?

SPEAKER_05 1:18:12

That's what we're literally here for.

NALEE 1:18:14

Yeah, like why? Like when Bree and Chriselle was going at it, I was like, Y'all just ended it. Like, I wanna see them fight. I need some hair pulled, I want some fucking wigs off their head. But no, they rudely interrupted the show to go take a lunch break. So yeah, I was pissed. I'm like, what the fuck is this shit? They had more drama on the whole season than the fucking reunion, which is supposed to be the opposite.

ANTHONY 1:18:37

They did.

NALEE 1:18:38

So yeah.

ANTHONY 1:18:39

They didn't address any of the drama, yeah.

NALEE 1:18:41

But I like Brie though. Bree's definitely.

ANTHONY 1:18:43

Bree's grown on me.

NALEE 1:18:44

Yeah, I like Brie.

ANTHONY 1:18:45

I liked her from the start, but as I okay, we have to go back again at very if we're gonna go back to Nicole and Chriselle.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:51

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:18:51

So first of all, I do agree with you, I did not like Chriselle this season.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:54

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:18:54

This season really showcased her playing the victim. Yeah. I never realized how much she played the victim, but it did make me look back to previous seasons. I mean, like, she really kind of does.

NALEE 1:19:04

Yeah. Well, who who said it on the show? Sophia's is it Sophia? Sandra. Sandra. She said it, yeah, she said it exactly right. Like Chriselle feels like everybody's out for her, but they're not. And I think that's why she's so guarded. And on top of that, and this is again, the thing about her, whatever happened with her and Sandra was so uncalled for.

ANTHONY 1:19:27

That was the most random scene.

NALEE 1:19:28

She was like, I'm gonna wait for you to fuck up. That's literally her what her mentality was, is that like I I'm gonna wait for you to fuck up so that I could rub it in your face, which is so unfair.

ANTHONY 1:19:38

This is that's why the whole thing, that whole scene near the end with them meeting at that house, and she was like, I talked to my friend, and and she said that you lived in the same building and you keyed her car. Yeah, that was the most random scene. There was nothing to like preface it, yeah, and nothing after it.

NALEE 1:19:55

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:19:56

The editing for that for this season was horrible. Horrible.

NALEE 1:19:59

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:20:00

But as far as Chriselle and Nicole go, at least Chriselle, true or not, Chriselle stayed consistent with her accusations, with it being drugs, drugs, drugs. Whereas Nicole was like, I'm gonna target this, and then I'm gonna bring up this drama with Emma, and then I'm gonna bring up this. Yeah, she's messy. Nicole was a bit. She was a potzer, she's messy.

NALEE 1:20:19

She's messy for sure.

ANTHONY 1:20:20

She's fake as fuck.

NALEE 1:20:22

Yeah. And I will say she did look really good though.

ANTHONY 1:20:27

She did look good, but her hair looked like a wig.

NALEE 1:20:29

Yeah. Her hair looked like Ying. She's so fake. Yeah. But her outfit was really nice. I liked her.

ANTHONY 1:20:34

At the reunion? Yeah. It was like very Morticia S.

NALEE 1:20:36

I loved it.

ANTHONY 1:20:37

Yeah. Yeah. I did like that dress too. On her. Like it was very complimentary of her. Okay, one big thing. This will be the last thing, and then we can move on.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:46

Okay.

ANTHONY 1:20:46

That I have to say about selling sunset.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:48

Okay.

ANTHONY 1:20:48

Go back and rewatch it. That dinner party that they had, where Nicole made the comment, I'm pretty sure it was that episode. Nicole made the comment about Chriselle's dead parents. Amanda says, I know she's done coke. I've fucking done cocaine with her. I've watched her do cocaine. Exactly. I see you I see the wheels turning. Then you go to the reunion. I've never seen you do cocaine. And I apologize for that.

NALEE 1:21:13

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:21:14

So which is it? Have you done cocaine with her or have you not seen her do cocaine with her?

NALEE 1:21:18

Well, she did, she did clarify though. She did clarify that because she's Nicole asked her, so did you actually see me or you know, whatever? And she did say Exactly. She did say, No, I'm sorry. I did I have never done cocaine with you.

ANTHONY 1:21:34

No, she didn't say that. She says I've never seen you do cocaine.

NALEE 1:21:36

Oh yeah.

ANTHONY 1:21:36

But But that again, that's a big difference because there's a difference between saying I've seen somebody doing cocaine and saying I've done cocaine with her. You can't come back from that. If you say I've done cocaine with you, you're basically flat. And then later you say, I've never seen you done cocaine or do cocaine, and I'm sorry for that.

NALEE 1:21:56

I don't know.

ANTHONY 1:21:56

That clearly says you're a fucking liar then.

NALEE 1:21:59

Amanza?

ANTHONY 1:22:00

Yeah.

NALEE 1:22:00

I don't know.

ANTHONY 1:22:01

You said you've done cocaine with her.

NALEE 1:22:02

Yeah, I guess. Okay.

ANTHONY 1:22:04

You can't be like, oh, I must have done it with that other girl who looks like you.

NALEE 1:22:08

Do you l I noticed that she's been getting less and less and less time on the show. I wonder what that's about. Amanza? Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:22:14

Well, I Deja informed me apparently there are rumors out there that she has that dinner party, that scene, she had done cocaine. And so they took her out of some of the episodes.

NALEE 1:22:26

Shit.

ANTHONY 1:22:26

Yeah.

NALEE 1:22:27

So what if she was all coked up?

ANTHONY 1:22:30

Well, they're that's what they're saying, and that's why she got she became so aggressive.

NALEE 1:22:33

Yeah, because she's like, you need to get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here.

ANTHONY 1:22:38

I thought her reaction was right because that that was a low fucking blow.

NALEE 1:22:42

Yeah, it's her birthday. Like this isn't a bug.

ANTHONY 1:22:44

It doesn't matter if it's a birthday or not. The everybody had a point. You do not disrespect somebody's parents like that, especially when they're dead.

NALEE 1:22:51

Yeah. Or deceased.

ANTHONY 1:22:52

Yeah. Dead, deceased, same thing.

NALEE 1:22:54

Okay.

ANTHONY 1:22:54

And then another thing, just since you brought it up, was like apparently Brie, there was a lawsuit with Brie too, and so that's why she wasn't as vocal this season as she normally was.

NALEE 1:23:03

Why?

ANTHONY 1:23:04

She's being sued. I thought she was being sued by Chelsea or something.

NALEE 1:23:07

Chelsea, Chelsea.

ANTHONY 1:23:08

The British one.

NALEE 1:23:09

Oh her.

ANTHONY 1:23:10

The one with the bad butt implants.

NALEE 1:23:12

Oh my god. Her? I can't. You guys, Netflix, you guys have money. Please fix her wig hairline. It's horrible.

ANTHONY 1:23:21

That's horrible.

NALEE 1:23:22

When she's on the couch talking.

ANTHONY 1:23:24

You can see her. You could see it.

NALEE 1:23:25

Like come on, you guys got money. You guys are fucking real estate agents who get paid like thousands of dollars on a fucking like house.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:34

Like Yeah, that's true and not true.

NALEE 1:23:37

You guys have Louis Baton shoes throughout the whole show. Like you guys have money. Please fix the wig.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:42

Yeah.

NALEE 1:23:43

Like nothing fucked me up more than her wig. Like, you know what I'm saying is that like I get it. You guys are high standard, but baby girl, hide that wig line a little bit better, please. Cause every time I see her on the couch, I'm just like, girl, you're here. Honey, the hair. The hair. The land. The land. Honey, the land. But yeah. Okay. Yeah. You want anything else to add?

ANTHONY 1:24:05

No. So getting back to the question at hand, I would get the dumbass of the year award just because Whatever you searched did not seem like a dumbass award, but Yeah, what I s yeah, but I do Google some stupid shit.

NALEE 1:24:15

Oh. Okay.

ANTHONY 1:24:17

But uh no okay, going back to that though, I do want to say as far as my search history goes, I feel like I'm consistently nowadays. Like I'll see something on like social media.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:27

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:24:27

On Facebook or Instagram or Blue Sky, and then I go to Google to like verify and fact check and do my own research.

NALEE 1:24:36

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:24:36

So I do do that a lot with things.

NALEE 1:24:39

You sh you should. You can't believe social media at all these days. Yeah. Okay. So yeah. Wow. Well, you have anything else to add to that?

ANTHONY 1:24:49

I don't. Well, my last question, did you learn anything about me today that you didn't know aside from me not being an avid bird watcher like you assumed?

NALEE 1:24:56

Yeah. I learned that you're a you're just a regular human being like me. Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:25:03

I'm just like I'm that section in those celebrity magazines where they're like, see, they're just like us.

NALEE 1:25:09

Yeah. Shop at Target. But no, I learned a lot of a lot of really good things. Obviously, we know that we have a lot of similar opinions. And you are very much alike like me. Like, we have a lot in common.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:23

Yeah, we too.

NALEE 1:25:25

But I mean, that's already uh That's a given.

What We Learned And Goodbye

NALEE 1:25:27

That's a given. But anyways, that's a wrap. Anthony has officially bared his soul, quirks, and chaotic genius to the world. We've kind of laughed, maybe nodded in agreement, and definitely learned that brains are messy, and that's okay. Thanks for tuning into Twin Tangents. And remember, everyone's tangent is valid. Some just more hilarious than others. Catch you hoes next time. Bye.