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🎙️ EPISODE 5: ALL ABOUT THE FIFA CWC AND LAMINE YAMAL
Hey there! Welcome to a new episode of Always Be Creative.
💠In this episode, we break down everything you didn’t see from the FIFA Club World Cup, but also it’s on Lamine Yamal, the young gem making football fans dream.
Is he the future of football? Is the hype real? We dive into the rise of LY10, the pressure, the magic, and what’s coming next.
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Tell me three differences between Lemian's party and yours. If you could pick a player to put on your back, which player would you pick? What is the best live show you think you can attend? We had this transfer from the FIFA Legends Hotel, and then you entered this bus and then you have Presege, you know, and Javier Pastore and Maxi Rodriguez were all going to the game together. And I think here they just wanted to do like kind of like a mock tournament ahead of the World Cup. Welcome to the episode number five of always be creating podcast years, always with Georgina Leggi. Hello, can you say that not like in a French accent? Georgina Ledger. For example, that's better. And Aviv Levy. How is your name like well pronounced? Aviv Levy. Aviv Levy. Easy. As it is. Easy. How are you? Good. Excited. Yeah. To say hi. Long time no podcasting. Long time no podcasting, yes. Because things happened. Things happened. But now we're here. We know we're here. Summer is always a busy period. Yes, it is. When did you come back from the US? I came back a few days ago. So I flew back immediately after the club World Cup final. And now we're here. Back to work. Back to creating, preparing the new season, preparing the Women's World Cup. Women's yours. You are. That is just going on. I'm actually going next week. You're going to the final, right? To the semi-final. To the semi-final. Yeah, the final I'm not sure can make it yet. So we'll see. But I'm for sure going to the semi-finals. I'm excited for it. Very nice. Yes. It's an event for a few weeks. Yes. We have now. Club World Cup. How was that? I mean, you were there. You were there at the beginning of the Club World Cup. Yes. And then you came back and you went again. So how was everything? I saw it was just there just before. I was in Miami just before it all kicked off. It was good. But actually, for the majority of the tournament, I just watched it from home. You actually watched it? You were here in a restaurant? No, I watched it because I was also on holidays. It was at random times. And then when you just have the TV open, you... Also, I like this random football. South American clubs playing against European clubs and then seeing some Asian clubs. Like to see the level because, you know, always when you're like, Hey, yes, this team would for sure if they played in this league for sure, they would beat them. So now we can actually see what are the power rankings. And I was surprised by the Brazilian football. Like Brazilians were like tough. They were. Yeah. Only ones to beat like European. Did you watch? I watched some of it, but I didn't follow the competition. Like obviously I went to the final. I got the chance. Like I watched this to be final as well. I saw some games at the beginning, but I haven't really been following. I've been following more what was happening in a digital scope around it rather than the games themselves, especially because of the times that they were being played. I love random football matches. Like when you get to exactly what you were saying, like a Brazilian team against a European team. But I'm not a big fan of random timings, which is basically the biggest barrier in sport for people to follow. Like why don't we in Europe follow the NBA? Yeah. Well, because we play at 3am and it's difficult. I understand. And that's why I also respect a lot of people who watch football. I don't know in India when the games are being played at 4am every day. Definitely. I mean, like the. Not that much of the fan. PSG bought a FOGAR. I remember it was like at 4am. That's a bit late to follow. You know, to follow and we work with one of the Chelsea players, Kukurela. Kurela. And he was playing like one game was super late and we said, yeah, man, good luck. Good luck. See you tomorrow. We see when we wake up, we see if you win, if you did a good job, then we'll do a post. If not, we'll also say thank you post and we continue. But we're not going to stay up and watch the game, you know. But I also noticed like the difference. Did they understand? Yeah, yeah. Yes. Yeah. Also because the audience is not really in the United States. So it doesn't matter. Like since European times is like is the key. But what I think was interesting is so for example, I know the quarterfinals PSG Bayern. Like when I was in Europe, these games were like at 8pm, 8pm, 9pm, which was super convenient. Yes. But then I went to the States for the semifinals. Oh, of course. Yeah. And it was so hot. Like it was so disgustingly hot in Umed. Where was it? That game? In New Jersey. Yeah, like the final. Yeah, New Jersey. Met life stadium. Stadium is fantastic. But it's great. 3pm. The sun is blasting. You're sitting there. There's zero shadow, like nothing of like a roof or anything. You're just dying, you know. And you look at the players and the players are suffering. Like kind of like having a difficult time breathing and sprinting and stuff. And I'm thinking, okay, but at least they have like these cold towels, they have water. You know, they run around like everyone has the same conditions. But as a fan, when you're static and you're just sitting there and everything is like also you're sticky. It's humid. It's not it wasn't the best timing. So I think, okay, on one hand, you're servicing the whole world of like the times are correct. But then on the other hand, it's super hot. And then also like if you consider like the people who live there, the New York, New Jersey people to attend a game at 3pm, you have to leave at 1pm on a Wednesday on a Wednesday on a Tuesday. It's super hard. So it will almost take a day off. So maybe I prefer like for it to be later. And the European suffer a bit more. And the quality of football and the product is better, you know, for the audience. I also, well, when you were saying this and how you were like it was at 8pm in... Sorry. Don't worry. It's fine. Yeah, because I can barely see you. There you are. When, yeah, the games I wear at 8pm, European time, which is very convenient, but then you turn on the TV and it's like super bright and sunny. And you can feel like it's to me, the whole club World Cup looked like a summer tour, summer games friendly. Like it was very hard being in Europe. Maybe because Barso wasn't involved, so wasn't really rooting for it, Sim. But even like I was, I have a lot of friends who are like Madrid followers or basically I talk to people who work in other clubs. And like the feeling I think that we all had, it's not that the players were not taking the tournament seriously. It's definitely not about that. And the team's working there absolutely where, but from home, from Europe, like it was really hard to understand that this was a serious thing when you see the stadiums that are half empty and it's being played at these weird times and the heat as you were mentioning. I love the fact that you are complaining about the heat. And saying that you suffer more than the players because they have the cold hours. Yeah, no. They seem, okay, so I look at them and they do seem like kind of out of breath, you know. Like especially I looked like it where I'm Madrid and they were like, like really like suffering, you know. But then as a fan, you're just there exposed, you know. You have no way to hide. So you just have to sit there and take the sun for the first day. You did well, you're not super sunburned. No, I did well. I protect myself. Always like sunscreen stuff. So the first day I was suffering the second day, I just put a, I came prepared. I came with a little towel. I put it over my head. So, you know, so you also. You learn from experience. I think also from, I see what you're saying like about the summer tour, but then I do think it's because it's like a first time. Definitely. I think the second time, like especially after seeing like the semis. Yeah. And the final, you're like, okay, this is nice, you know. This is nice. Absolutely. And actually this got me thinking that we were having this conversation with other friends who work in the industry or like maybe like the second one will have much more attention because it's already happened. So what if the first tournament, the first time that the club had been played, had been in Europe, you build the momentum, you really grow through the audience and then you take it to other countries? I think here they just wanted to do like kind of like a mock tournament ahead of the World Cup to test everything. No, absolutely. Because now they're going to take this feedback and I like, I can imagine they will be like better conditions, times more shade, different protocols. Like also a lot of games were stopped like at some point, you know, so I think for them it was just a test tournament. But yeah, I think. Like very expensive one. And European club wouldn't want to miss out on being there, you know? No, obviously. Like super stages. And it's going to be better and better. And I mean, there's been like a lot of hate about the competition itself. I think it's very cool to be honest. It's like having the super league. Like literally it's like it's a World Cup. So you play it during summer is like national teams, but with clubs. So what else could you ask for now? I think it's really nice and it just needs to be on the momentum and you get this by the tournament being held more and more. One thing I really loved about it is the like format wise is that, you know, knock out one game. Yeah. Like exactly like the world. Like Alilal, Man City, 4-3. Like usually maybe in Champions League, like if you have a double game, like Man City would, I don't know, beat Alilal, like comfortably like over two games. But now like the factor of one game makes it like so unpredictable and much more fun. Absolutely. So I think it's about first time as well. Totally. I think maybe first time when they're organized the World Cup also wasn't great. Or the first time with the new Champions League format, like people were super hesitant. And then you just have to do it and people just get used to it. 100%. 100%. Do we know where the next one is being held? There are some rumors. So the rumors are... Saudi? Yeah, the rumors are Spain, Saudi, Morocco. Brazil? Okay. Like but Morocco, Brazil, these are like people with like great love for football, super high engagement. It's super different. Yeah. Yeah. I think this will become like a massive tournament like the World Cup. I think it will. Do you think they will do that every four years or every two years? I hope every four because it makes it more mystical. Like you're all the time waiting for the World Cup to happen because it's every four years. If it was every two years, it also becomes more common and you know, it's not... I don't know. Another thing they need to work on is transfers between teams and players. Like the first time gives experience now, but the whole rules that they made for this World Cup, I'm sure we're going to see lots of changes. And for the following ones to come because obviously it's being played in the middle of summer and you have your players representing your club and then being transferred to another club who's also playing the tournament, but they cannot play. So it's a bit... Yeah. Something that needs to be worked on first times in there. Did you feel like it was really the first time that it was being organized? Because I... How did the Americans are great at organizing events? Yeah. And it was... Something else. Like... No, it was a great... I had also a different experience, so I was a lot with the FIFA Legends. I was like kind of plugged in. So... Like... My transfers to the... to the... Club World Cup Games, like all of a sudden, I know in the final. Like... Chiki's Mile. Interesting source coming. Yeah. Chiki's Mile. So... I can tell it, you know, like usually you try not to tell it, but like here I can tell it, but like on a final day, like... We had this transfer from the FIFA Legends Hotel, and then you entered this bus, and then you have, you know, like... Trezige, you know, and Javier Pastore, Maxi Rodriguez. But also I was sitting like one row behind Javier Zanetti, and like we're all going to the game together. And... Or Batis Touta was there, which is like a childhood hero of mine. That's a... So it was a big turn. So it was a super cool experience. Frank Weaver was there as well. So super cool experience. On the first two days that we went, we got stuck in traffic for like one and a half hour on a 30 minute drive. But on the final day, like we left three and a half hours before. We didn't like... With police escort, we arrived in 30 minutes, and then we just had three hours to kill in the stadium. So... But it was better than being in traffic, honestly. And I'm assuming you went like to VIP... See, then you had like your own suits and... Yeah, because we, for this game, as Double Tap, we brought out super random, you know, we do random things. But we brought out Reikon, which is a Colombian reggaeton singer. Skatting is quite known like in the Latin music scene. Definitely in New York. Yeah, but as agent... Last minute like freaked out because she had tickets and then she didn't. And then she came to me and then we made it happen as well with PSG. Awesome. So yeah, we tagged along there and yeah, it was super nice. So you went not knowing if you were going to... Yeah, we didn't know, but like there's always a good confidence, you know, in myself that... It's like the standby tickets. Then we make it happen, you know. That's right. Double tap makes it happen. We always make it happen like left or right. Like not from an arrogant POV, you know. No. Like always like confidence that we make it happen. Remember in the time it's like final how, well, you know the story with Paolo, he didn't have a ticket. I was convinced he was going to get one shout out to Paolo. Instagram official, I saw. What? Instagram official Paolo. He has a Paolo novello underscore. No, the... with Sarah. Ah, oh, really? Yeah. I don't know. Okay, yeah, well, shout out. If it's not official, we're gonna cut this one. No, I didn't know. I mean, we've known for such a long time. Yeah. But yeah, love to you both. No, I was gonna say like, if you don't have tickets and you're thinking like, should I go? Should I go? You need to go. You need to go, yeah. If you stay home, your 100% are going. Exactly. But if you go, the chances that someone missed their flight, someone gets sick. Someone has a random issue. They can't attend. You're gonna find someone. True, but I think also you need to know some people. No, of course. Maybe know some people or be in a position where we have like friends or something because... You can ask in a row. If you're on location, you can always make stuff happen. And if not, at least you have the atmosphere of the day before, on the day, you know, and you can watch it in the bar with friends or the fan zone. I think, yeah, there's a fan story like, well, it's not really football, but last year I worked for the Taylor Swift concert in Spain. In the Taylor Swift. And last year, who was the organizer of the concerts. And there was this girl who had flown all her way from Argentina to the concert. And I can't remember exactly what was the problem with her ticket. If it was a fake one and she had spent all the money on a fake ticket and she didn't know, I can't remember what was the thing. She was crying in a corner because she couldn't enter the venue and she had spent all this money. But she didn't leave. And eventually we walked past her and she was devastated. And because it was the organization, they could get her in, you know. It was like the... Obviously the passe of her life. And it happened because she was there, you know. If you stay there until the very end, I believe that the chances that you get in a venue and event, it can happen. And also from outside of the company, sometimes you would have these kids. Just like, do you have any carnet to enter? And sometimes there's people actually going with their carnet book. And sometimes they have one extra, so I'll say, yeah, sure. It happens to me all the time. I would go my mom's home because whatever, she's not feeling well, whatever. And I just go alone. And if I saw a kid that wants a ticket, I would 100% pay it to them. Yeah, just make them enter. Okay, cool. That was the football side of things. Let's speak entertainment. So I brought out Rekon, Rugged on Singer. He said to me, at halftime, next time it's going to be me. You know what I'm referring to? Really? No. The halftime show. Ah! The halftime show. Well. Yes, some way to go, but still, like, he's ambitious. You think can happen? I mean, there was J Balvin, Doja Cat. Yeah. And no, and Chris Martin, well, Coldplay. He was there as well? The halftime show. Yeah. It was Coldplay, J Balvin, and Doja Cat. I missed it. I missed Chris Martin. What? I was walking around. If I say Coldplay, that's not the first thing that comes to mind. I was networking. Coldplay, yeah. Coldplay is... It's a training topic today, Coldplay, because of the viral video of the hug. Yeah. What do you think? I love you, Darrin. What do you make of that video? I wonder... First... Yeah. So, the first thing is I wonder who posted the video originally, because it was someone random at the stadium. It was someone random at the stadium just, I think, post, like, videographing the screen. I mean, like, everyone has their phones out. Why would you post that? Like, first of all, like, it's a bit of... It's so nice. It's not nice, but also... Also, what they did is not nice, probably, you know? Of course, it's not the problem of the situation, but it's definitely not nice. What I mean, fan comes and he comes and all that are great content for organizers, for the clubs, for teams. Like, it's the best thing of a half time, to be honest. All the activity around it. And it's also a great moment for the clubs to, like, be filming their reactions, because they can be great. But, of course, when something like that happens, why would you post it? I don't know. I think... So, just for context, so... Yeah, we were referring to the cold place situation. If you haven't seen, then you live under a rock. Congrats. And you decided to listen to our podcast, but you haven't seen this. This is, I think, would be a super random combination, you know? I think most people saw, but there's two colleagues going to a cold play concert, hugging each other, but, you know, there's a couple. So, they are both married with someone else. Correct. And it gets posted, they come on the big screen, they kind of, like, run away. I'm hug. The guy just, like, went to the floor. Like, it was an army exercise. And it was all over social media. And of social media, I can... Has to go open to work. You see this one? Yeah. No, I haven't. Especially because I think she was in HR or something. Yeah, she was HR. Like, literally... Ethics and stuff. Yeah, I mean... Why would you post that? Everyone is speaking about it. Yes. You wouldn't have posted it? No. No, no, no, no, no, no, not at all. Like, I always wonder, like, when things, like, dramatic things happen, like, the people who are filming. I think more than one person would have filmed that. No. Yeah. So it would have... Hundreds of people were filming this, but only one posted. Or maybe more than one posted one got viral. Okay. But if something happens, like, if there is a meteor, like, crashing into a cam, no, no. I 100% would go out, probably film, because it's like just an instinct. I'm not saying I wouldn't. But if you see someone get hurt, I don't think I would ever, like, post it. Sure. Or share it with the authorities, if, like, when planes go down and stuff. But you don't post it on social media. Yeah. I mean... I would never. I don't know. I think, I think in this case, it's a good case of karma. Yeah. No. It's different, but still. Yeah. Anyway, Coldplay. Anyway, Coldplay, Jay Balvin. That's a good one. It was super high. Like, Metalive Stadium is a huge stadium. It's amazing. And it was, like, the highest of the highest. Like, I don't know if, I don't know if on TV you could see, like, how high they were performing. You could. It was very visible, and it gave this vertical sensation of how are they performing without any cables that are securing them? Oh. No, I'm a fan. Yeah, no, it's great. But also, like, from where I was sitting, so I was sitting opposite side. Like, you look at them, but it's like, like, you know, when you have a friend in the stadium? Yeah. And he says, like, hey, yeah, I'm on the other side. Yeah, oh, try to wave, you know? And try to wave, but you don't really see them. That was that far. Really? Like, you couldn't see their faces. I guess I was wondering this from home. Their face was, like, super tiny. For TV? For TV, amazing. Which is 99% of the people. Yeah. Watching the game. 99% was amazing. And, I mean, hats off because I love when things are different, you know? Like, I really appreciate it. Like, half times pre-game shows always happening on the pitch. If you're lucky with a very beautiful, like, in a time, it's like final set up. But this was different. And then I really appreciate it when someone really has their creativity and does something of their own and just putting the artists up in the stands, I think was, yeah. What do you think of this ball as well? I think so. So nice, no? Very, very nice. The whole... Like, America, Africa, Asia. That has happened around the World Cup, the trophy, the balls. Also, they came out. What do you think of the players? The players on the pitch, like, when you know that they were like, okay, first player, like Marco Corrilla. And then he walks out, like, by himself, you know? So... And then the next player. So it's very, like, you know... Dumpet. It's America, yeah, exactly. Individualistic, focused. But I think... NBA-ish. Cool. Yeah, no, I think it's for the show. I wish we were a bit more like this in Europe. It's on Bopler, I know. Because in here it's like, no, the football culture and we don't like modern football. I mean, I think you can like both. It's okay. Like, I like the tradition and... I come for a very football fan culture at home. But I still love it. Like, these kind of shows and how they build the momentum and it's more than just the football. I must say, I think I like the American culture a bit better. I know it's an unpopular opinion, maybe. But like you walk in the stadiums, this is like, okay, I know this already because I've been out to a few games. But now again, like you go and you have 40 food options. 40, 40 different, like you can eat whatever you want. Like, in Gumbel. Same. There was even like a kosher stand, you know? Like kosher food. It's like what? Thank you. It was... No, it was crazy. Like, from ice creams to hot dogs to noodles to sushi to burgers to chili-like, chili-cheese steak. Like, every... you had all the food options. And it's just like you go, you have a good time, you come a few hours before you chill, you drink, you eat. So different. I would say others, to be honest. I'd be a little bit of that. And because I feel like in... Well, Lisa, probably Barcelona, like, we... because of how the tickets are sold and it's a super complicated situation, you don't get like... You don't get the real, real fans, but you don't also get the show from having like a full tourist audience. So it's like very complicated, you know? It's not like you go to the Premier League game and it's all local fans and the atmosphere is crazy. And I think I preferred that to the American culture. But the show that gets built around a football game, I love and I'm jealous that they are able to do it. And not be criticized for it. Honestly, it's crazy. A few days before, I also went to see boxing with a friend, Kika Levy, and some Kika. He took me to see the game or the fights, whatever. It was four fights. Honestly, for me, it's like not a boxing fan. It was a bit too long. Like to see four fights each of 40 minutes with also 20 minutes waiting time in between. But then there was this main fight, right? At the end. And they already said like... It was on Netflix. It was on Netflix, yeah. By Jake Paul, most valuable productions. So it's like next level. So they were already saying like one hour and a half before the fight, like, hey, in 40 minutes, like tune in. So I said, okay, yeah, in 40 minutes, nice. Like we're going to get this over and done with, then I can go home. No, like one and a half hour. Then they both come out on both. Out of both of them, you see like a dedicated like, I think one minute video like prep, hype video. Then you have the Irish anthem because one was Irish. Then you had the Puerto Rican anthem. Then you have the US anthem by someone else. So everyone sings like three different singers. Then you think, okay, now they're going to walk out. No. Nothing Natasha comes and gives like some sort of performance like singing again. Then someone else comes out. It was... Contest. Give away. It was all show. It was all show before the fight. Dopamine, dopamine, dopamine. Exactly like hype, hype, hype, tiredness as well. Like I was very tired. Just like as well. Like it was already 12. And like having seen already three fights. And more and more and more. And that was super cool and light show and like fantastic. Like really fantastic. Like I think from this we entertainment value can learn a lot in Europe. Yeah. What is the best live show you think you can attend nowadays? Maybe like NBA finals should be super cool, but also something like boxing is very cool. If you like the sport actually, then I think you have a fantastic time. I had a good time, you know. Or a final like this. Like I think Super Bowl maybe. Probably Super Bowl, no. Super Bowl is probably the number one event in the world, no? You've never been, no? Never been, no. I mean, no, I mean, no. I don't really like American football, but this is something I want to attend once. Yeah, same, same, same. No, I've been to an NFL game, but I struggled. Where in London? In London. I struggled to understand. Like I don't think I fully understood. The game stops a lot. Yeah, the game stops every two minutes and I understand there's these moments and building hype. And if you're watching on TV, there's a comment. Two minutes, no? No, no, every, like 10 seconds. Yeah, yeah, 10 seconds. The game stops and you get an advertisement or you get like an activation or something is happening all the time. If you're not really understanding the rules, like it can be complicated because they have different attempts and stuff. I'm definitely not into NFL. But I would love to see, yeah, from an industry perspective, how they are building all the show and all the engagement for people both in the audience, but also at home and how everything is built. Like that would be very interesting to attend to be under. I would love to. And in terms of campaigns and stuff, like did you see anything cool around the club World Cup? Like what was your favorite? Especially during the first days of Club World Cup, I think in dirty, that great job made a post about it on LinkedIn. Because I really thought like they were doing a lot. They went, they were all over the place in the US. They had physical activations, lots of digital content, lots of different things. They were connecting the city. They were doing collabs with local brands. They had this skate brand that they did a collaboration with. They had the kit release. They had the players involved in in God as parties. And I mean, a lot was happening on inter-socials. I think they killed the game during the early days of the Club World Cup. But there were others. I don't know anyone, especially spoke to you. You saw something that you loved or that you thought was different? No, I think it was an activation from Juventus, where they brought out a few content creators to the US. And they called it something like with amazing fields. And they brought out cool fields all across the US. And basically, they were there. And then they were also bringing US content creators. From creators from now on. Did you see Casey again? Sorry. No, I didn't. Oh, no. I was thinking of sending him a message. I think you should have. Yeah. I'm a bit intimidated. I'm intimidated. They follow each other. You also follow me. Yeah. What? Yeah. Okay, lots of World Cup talk. Now back to Barcelona. We were in the new kit. Back to reality. I like it. Rated. The gradient. The gradient. The radiance. Radiance. Rated. Rated. Rate the kit. I think it's a seven out of ten, maybe. I'm being generous. I think it's nice. I think. As first kit, a seven. But as a pretty much kit. Yeah, it's 10 out of 10 pretty much. It's a pretty much good. I thought exactly. It's actually very similar to a pretty much kit. We had, I think, in 2020, 2021, something like this. We had something similar, like a similar color scheme. I feel. Yeah. I don't know. I'm not the biggest fan. But I also always feel with new kits, it's like, okay, you rate them at the end of the season. Depending on how the season went, it becomes like legendary or not. You know, like the purple kit. You remember a few years ago? Yes. Who's the first player who comes to mind? Forget young, I have to say, but because of the campaign. Yeah. Okay. Then for me, look them probably. True. Who came in and then scored some headers. So many goals. Last minute. Yeah, that's a cool game actually showing a kit and saying the first player that comes to mind. That's good. Okay. How do we do it though? I would say next time. Okay. Next time we do it. Next time we do it. Okay. Next episode. Game of. We should include more games though. Yeah. We should include more games. So it's more clippable as well. And we have more clips. Yeah. For social. If only we knew something about social media. Yeah. We could prepare a little bit. We're old. The other day, a friend of mine, he just started working for a football club. Uh huh. I'm not going to mention the name. And he told me, hey, what's up? Yeah. This gig is football club. Send me ideas for things you did like with players and at bars and stuff. I'm like, man, this is so, so, like such a long time ago. I'm old. I have no idea anymore. Like you have to come up with your own shit. You know what we did four or five years ago. It's not relevant anymore. Absolutely. Like look around. I told him, like you want a good reference. Check what other clubs are doing. Get a bit creative inspiration and try to see like if you can, you know. Do something that they haven't done. Exactly. Or do what they do. But don't do what I did five years ago. Yeah, that's for sure. No, this is too long ago. Yeah. Uh, what do you think of the new kids? Do you like the gradients? I saw. Uh, I'm not a big fan of gradients in general. I think they are, I mean, they are cold but not for a first gig. I don't like it. Like we are blue and we are red and let's keep it that way. You know, like I don't want to mix the two colors with them. I don't dislike it. Like I would give it probably a six. Okay. But I think it's more like a fashion piece of clothing that you can have and it goes well without fits. But to play games, to be honest, just give me the blue and red stripes and. I don't know. I think the colors are nice. The actual colors that they picked for this one are nice. So I think the yellow. If you only take this, it's very similar to last seasons. Yeah. Which were nice colors. Um, yeah, I mean, it's a six. But for me, again, as you said, it's a 10 for a pretty much. Yeah. Uh, a warm up. Sorry. Uh, kids. So that's why it lacks a little bit for me. Uh, if you could pick a player to put on your back, which player would you pick? Not. Let me know. Let me know. Okay. Yeah. I know what you're going to say. I'm thinking. I don't know what I'm going to say. I know what you're going to say. I'm going to say. I know it. Who do you think I'm going to say? Yeah. Yes. Catalan pride. Absolutely. Quiet kid. Valor. Thing is, I've always had this thing for defenders. Like, you know, I'm going to say, you know, I'm going to say, you know, I'm going to say, yeah. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Remember. Yep. Should we rank French players of Barso? One day. All time French players. One day. I think it could be a cool game for us as well to do. Could we now know? Who would be the first? So we have Cunde, OTT. Grisman. Grisman. Langlet. Langlet. Cherionry. Cherionry. In the... Do the big Julie. Julie. Abidale. I have a picture with Julie. Yeah. Oh wow. I was a kid. I used to like him a lot actually. Me too. Number one. From the right area. Probably Cheyenne. Cheyennery. I said it in English. Cherionry. Cherionry. Number two. T-T-T. Oh. Sorry. I mean you went... Whoa. What are you laughing? I mean I'm not going to put him second. How did you eat at Barso? As a person? A top person. No. He was super nice to us always. Yeah. He was very nice. Yeah. Remember. A summer tour. I think I think the next episode will speak about summer tours. Summer tours. Also at summer. Um, Grisman maybe. No, because he... I mean I loved him and I love him and he's one of my all time favorite players. But I'm not sure he's the second best French player that Barso has had. Especially how he performed at the club. Christenwald. Do you remember? No. Petite? Like not... I mean I remember them and not them playing as a kid. You know I remember them from my adult life. Every time we used to sign a player, David Touta. Yeah. All the French players. All the French players. 16 players to make a appearance for both French players. Um, so who would be the second? I would go probably like mine, maybe on Rhee. Not the first on Rhee. No, first on Rhee. Yeah. I think second between Kunde and Abidal. I was thinking about Abidal actually. I think Abidal. Abidal was really solid for us. People forget. Yeah. Because he was also quiet and the team was full of stars. Absolutely. But he was solid. Did his job. I have to agree. Tyrion Rhee. Like no mistakes. Abidal. Yeah. Grisman maybe. But Grisman, yeah. It's unfair for players who are still playing now at Barso, like Kunde. Because maybe he ends up being top one. To be real. To be real. To be real. Where is he playing? To lose still? Westam. Westam. They bought him for 40 million. Crazy. I didn't know that. Wow. Okay. Yeah. So I go on Rhee. Abidal. I agree with that. Then probably Grisman. But still seeing Grisman number four. Like he's one, I mean, French players. And one of the best. Yeah. Never won the league. Grisman. Crazy if you think about it. It was always between Barso and Adelico and the other team on the league. So bad. Anyway. So bad. And then yeah, the rest. Not only to rank them. But yeah. Another player who is going to wear this sharp position. Who do you have on the back? I have on the back, Lamin. You have it. See, that's it. I'm going to stand up and I was going to see it now. No, they may be the good. Yeah. I wouldn't put it now. Like when he becomes a legend. Too soon. Too soon. That's my thing with, I mean, I would put the 19 now. The 19. We have the 19 as well. Yeah, we have it as an agency. I put Messi 10 on the last kid he wore. Like I don't know. I like to be calm. Yeah. You say you need to deserve it first. Kind of. That's the feeling. Yes. I think we're going to pretend the answer situation didn't happen. We went from Messi to Lamin and it's going to be road to go. It's not going to be easy, I think. Definitely not going to be easy. I think he has confidence though. Yeah. Confidence is not lacking. And I like that it says in La Masilla. It is amazing. Like three La Masilla boys Messi and Sue, I mean. So. I think his answer is very resonant to me. Yeah. I remember everything we were saying about anso. And it's true he didn't have like the two full seasons. Like Lamin has had absolutely. But I mean, Lamin is young. I understand the move and I'm happy that he's taken the number 10. I think he definitely should. But it's a bit too early for me to put it on my back. He put it on his back just recently turned 18. So we saw. What did you do for your 18th party? I was just about to ask you this. I had a huge party actually. Yeah. For the biggest in my life I think. We had, I remember like a guys party. So we just had guys over from a birthday party first at house. Not like Lamin's. No. It was more mixed. You know, definitely we didn't play poker. There were no. No, no mafia. I mean three differences between Lamin's party and yours. So we didn't play poker. We didn't wear suits. And I think the majority were tall people. Because everyone was Dutch. Yeah. Cool. So where it happened in Amsterdam? I'm not sure. It was in Amsterdam, you? It was in Barcelona. Three differences between yours and Lamin's party. It was, I don't know if it's different, but it was mostly girls. Would you say that is different or not? I'm not sure. So you had enough girls there. So mostly girls you say. We were, yeah, it was mostly girls. Okay. Yeah. Eighty twenty. We were wearing suits dresses. So that wouldn't be a difference. The budget was very different. Budget, okay. Budget was very different. And we didn't have live music. And we had it. And Llan Dostik didn't show up. And Llan Dostik didn't show up. Although he would have been invited. Yeah. Three differences between my 18th party and him. But it was a legendary party for us. Like my friends still talk about the party. Uncle Roberto, did you make an after movie of your party? Actually, I didn't. But, and then it's, it's, it's, if it had, it happened now, I 100% would have had an after movie of the party. What did you think of the after movie of Lamin? You know I haven't seen it. It's very good. Like you can think of, of what's happening there, whatever you want. I've seen the pictures. But the movie, like, it's well made. Like it's very, it's very over the top. It's very extra. It's like a wedding after movie. It was like showing the best parts and amating the not so good parts. It's more like a hip hop, like music clip. Rate the after movie. Yeah. No, the movie 9.5. Very, very well made. So to Lucho. Yeah. Who made it? Yeah. And another, I know a guy who was at the party. Uh-huh. Greg. You know Greg? Greg. Which Greg? Ginger Greg. No. Are you just Greg? No, I don't know. Are you just Greg? Yes, sir. I said to Greg, you sure you would have met him. No? I'm not. Maybe, maybe I have. I'm not like you. My... Yeah. Skill to remember people's name is, I definitely need to work on that. But no, I'm pretty sure I don't know him. He was with him in China. The week before. For like this Adidas tour. And then, yeah. What's, yeah. Like, what's the closest summer you've had to Lamint's summer? Oof. I think it was summer 2018. 2018 was, I think, the most of them all for me. I was in... Was there summer tours involved? Because maybe we can then keep it for... Summer tours, yeah. Yeah, but these stories I'm going to keep. But I can give a little teaser. So I was in World Cup, like I was a month in Russia. I was two weeks in Miami. I was in LA, New York, Vegas. I was everywhere. And then I went to Argentina as well. And I was in Brazil as well. Lamint's state of mind. More, I think more than Lamint. More than Lamint. Yeah. Yeah. I was with Neymar in Brazil, actually. So pretty similar. Yeah. Were you single? I was single. Thanks for asking. I don't see the difference then. Between yours. Seven years ago. Eighteen and... 2025 summers with Lamint. Okay. We'll see what the future holds for Lamint. I think it's good. I hope it's good. I'm praying for it to be honest. I'm sure it will. I'm sure it will. I'm sure he's great. I believe in him. He's great. He's confident mentality and... Feet on the ground. Head cool. Hopefully. Hopefully. And I believe if eventually, because it would be so natural, like, what if you at 18 years old had all these happening around you? Like, I don't think it's fair to say, you know, like, everything you're doing is wrong. Like, and it wouldn't have happened to me. I think this situation would happen to everyone. So, I'm just hoping that if he eventually gets a bit off the road, someone will be able to get him back and his mentality of winning and being the best will help him stay on track to retogold. And with that, we end this week's episode. Shorter than you're used to from us, but yeah, we want to produce more for you. So, we have a lot of stories and we're going to break it down by... For the next episode. Yeah, so... To come. See you next time in approximately two weeks. Two weeks. Yeah. See you. Bye-bye.