How to Stop Quitting W/ Ed Daubert

What are the core habits that help men improve faith, fitness, and leadership?
How can men balance the demands of work, family, and personal health?
What steps can fathers take to become better leaders in their homes and communities?

This episode of the MOI Podcast dives deep with Ed Daubert—a coach, father, and mentor—who shares his powerful story about how faith and fitness transformed his life and business. From growing up in Pottsville, PA, to building a faith-driven gym that impacts generations, Ed reveals how the foundations of faith, family, friends, fitness, and finances (the “Core Five”) can lead any man to growth and purpose. Learn practical advice for managing your time, building accountability, and taking the first steps toward a stronger body and deeper faith. Join us as we unpack the importance of brotherhood, mentorship, balancing priorities, and leaving a legacy defined by love and character—not just achievements or trophies.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

I've had kids come to me and say, I just I don't have it today. And I say, you know, there are days you're not gonna trust me. I'm there. I'm there more than I days that I do have it. That we just push through it and come back tomorrow.

SPEAKER_03 0:13

Welcome back to the Men of Iron Podcast. This month we're jumping into faith and fitness. And I have a guy with me that I just met maybe about a little over a year ago, almost maybe a little bit longer or a little bit less. Um, but we've been getting connected out of Dunkin' Donuts. And I know I've shared this story before, and it's been a lot of fun to be there doing this study with a group of 15 to 20 guys on talking about core five, anchor man, all these different principles. But I'm super excited today to have Ed with me. Hi. What's going on, man? Uh not much. Not much. Well, I first want to start out, give the audience a little bit of reference who you are. Okay. Like where you're from growing up, you know, what you're into now. Um, you've been a part of this Dunkin crew with me for a while now. I think we should get shirts made that say Dunkin' Crew on it. Sure, you're right. Dunkin' Donut Boys or whatever we want to make it, but t tell me about yourself a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 1:04

Okay. Um, well, my name's Ed Dobert. I'm was born in Pottsville, where Dunkin' Donuts is, and um, I've been there pretty much my whole life. Um the whole fitness thing started maybe in eighth grade. A buddy of mine said, Hey, let's get some gloves on, a box. And we did, and I loved it. And from that point on, um, out of high school, I fought amateur for three and a half years and then professional for three and a half years. And then I started working in jail setting where that's being small isn't, you know, it doesn't go hand in hand. So I started on a powerlifting team, and and then that was right now that's like a hundred pounds ago. I was much lighter, uh, and I'm on a different end of the spectrum. Um, but throughout that course at the working at the jail and being on a powerlifting team, God put some people in my life that helped me with the business aspect. Hey, let's get a gym open, let's start to impact kids as I funneled in more and more knowledge. Um, so probably about 18 years ago, I started it out of my house. Just my oldest son was 10 at the time, he's 28 now, and uh a couple friends, and then my next son, who's 24, when he came up, all my boys went through the program. And then in 2020, crazy story, 2020, we're about to go on a family vacation to Florida. I ran out a 200 square foot garage, set it up in February. We leave in March. The week we're there, COVID hits. Everything gets shut down. We gotta go back. My ex-wife, my wife at the time, said we gotta go back. There was no toilet paper. So we cut the vacation short, went back. I still ran a gym and it exploded because there were no school gyms open. The local Postwell High running back. I graduated with his dad, he's like, Bobby hasn't committed yet. Like, it's time, like we need him in the gym. He's a senior. Um, that's what got us started. So COVID did me well. Um, he went on to go to Penn State, main play football. Um and from there, like we moved four different times. Now we're in a much bigger facility. Like, we had no bathroom and no heat in the in the garage. Now we have a bathroom, we have heat. Code enforcement says we have to. Um not as many kids involved in the program because it's old school. We run sprints if it's 10 degrees or if it's 100 degrees. Um, I tell them all the time the kids in Russia run in snow in their bare feet and they don't complain about it. But um and we're still going and we've grown to adult classes, different coaches in baseball, football lessons. And I'm there minimal time, three hours a week. That's it. And it's worked out good. I mean, there were a couple times that I was gonna quit because it was frustrating, but God stepped in financially. Nope, I got you. You know, when I started, I had eight kids. I was trying to group train, I wasn't very good at it. I was in a storage unit, 224 square foot square uh storage unit, and one day I came home and said, I'm done. I can't do it. Five minutes later, that running back called me and said, Newswatch 16 wants to come and do an article on your gym. I got off the phone and said, I guess I'm not that. Like we kept rolling. And we've been rolling since 2020, and it's it's impactful for kids. And it can be generational. We look at it that way. Like they could grow up and their kids, hey, I used to train for this crazy dude. Like, I don't care if it's 10 degrees, you're going out and running. You know, it builds character too, makes it mentally funny.

SPEAKER_02 4:33

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SPEAKER_03 5:06

That's so good. That's so cool to hear. I don't even know some, I don't even know some of that stuff about your story, which is really cool. Um, and when we think through, no, fitness has just been a part of your life, your journey, now part of your business and what you do. When you think through fitness, but the foundation is really our faith. And what has that journey looked like for you? Because I've I know you've told me some stuff and I love, I love this uh pieces of it that you've told me. What does your faith journey look like paired with that fitness and growing up? You said God stepped in a couple times. Like, yeah, what is that like?

SPEAKER_01 5:36

What is faith for you like? So uh it's it's built, it's built my faith, and when I stay God centered, things run right. When I try to do things Ed wants to do, things kind of curtail. I'll never forget one time he spoke clearly, the most clear to me when I was sitting down at the kitchen table, figuring out the budget. I had equip so much equipment, I had finance, I had to make payments, had to pay the rent. Like, I'm I don't know if I'm gonna do it. And I could just hear him saying, I told you I have this. Like, I get it, I get it, but I gotta see it on paper first. So I write numbers down. He's like, When are you gonna believe? So I said, sat back, rolled up the paper, shot it. And then at that time I was training a potential uh Pennsylvania state trooper. He was gonna go in the academy for a month. He was there three, four, five days every week. He was faithful. It was the next day was his last day. I'll never forget. He came in and gave me an envelope and said, Me and my mom think you really undercharged me. So here's some money. So we finished a workout and I sat down. When he left, opened the envelope and there was five hundred dollars in it. And I broke in tears, like I doubt it, you know. Powerful. But it's it's kept me on track, um, and really able to speak into these kids too. Like, we're called the lions then. So people think they see my banner, big muscular line, but we're not, we're not that we're the ones that stay persistent and consistent in what we do to be successful, just like Daniel was. He was consistent and faithful in his faith. That's why he sat there all night.

SPEAKER_03 7:12

Yeah, you know, that's so cool. And when we talk through faith and we talk through what's going on at Dunkin' Donuts, right? Right. And great group of guys. I'm telling you, when I first came to that room, I'm gonna be honest with you, Ed. We we I that first night there, I was like, what a crew. Right. Right. And I think that we can still say that, what a crew. We could, you're right. And we think and we think of what God's been doing with that group, though. I mean, I think number one starting out with Jason Bowers just saying, hey, you can use this space, we'll host it here. That's number one, having someone to be available to that, sending out the message to have all these guys show up, and then the consistency of sometimes you do a group and it's like by the end of it, no one's there. It'd be like you and another guy. What have you seen in that group from us diving into a man's game plan or even that we're in Anchored Man right now? What have you seen in your own life? And what you can speak a little bit to the group as well, because you're pretty observant guy. Right. Um, right, right. What you have have you seen it and how has it impacted them in your own life, but also in that group?

SPEAKER_01 8:11

Well, I think the first time we're gonna go back to the first time we met first, I was shocked at that many people showed up. I'm not gonna lie. But the core group of guys have stayed there and we've grown closer. Like I personally talked to them through social media often, quite a few of them, one-on-one, not just on our group chat that we have. Um, and I think there are some who were kind of on the fence with faith that are starting to finally to come over to the right side of the fence. Um I mean it's great. For me personally, it's kept me more in check, posting my devotions maybe five a week, you know, to try just to try to help out and speak to somebody might need to read it. And I've had guys DM me like, yo, I needed that, like spot on. But um, for my faith, it has dialed me in more with the relationship I didn't have with my younger kids um when I was married. Um it's dialed me in more so with my finances like ever before. I'm in a so much better place now than I was a year ago. Um and even I'll I'd even go as so far as to say with my girlfriend, like really we're dialed in as far as uh faith, who I am to be as a man, called to be, provide and protect, and all the other things we learn out throughout there, the five Fs. Yeah, you know, it's important.

SPEAKER_03 9:35

When you think of faith, family, friends, fitness, and finance as the core five, where would you see that you've had is your weakest, and where have you seen the most growth? That's what this is a vulnerable spot, right? But I think it's so important because guys always think, oh, they men of iron, the guys in that I'll have it all figured out. I can tell you right now, we don't have it figured out. I don't even have it figured out. Right. But where have you seen when you started to take your faith seriously? What ripple effect happened into those other F's? You've already touched on it briefly, right? But where have you seen, like, hey, I'm still working in this area and I'm still, I'm still putting in the time, I'm putting that effort with God's help, of course, and having the great guys around you to do so. Like, where have you where are you seeing that?

SPEAKER_01 10:17

Where's the strength right now and where are you growing in those? I'd say my strength right now um is faith. You know, we've talked recently. It's time for me to make a step and go to that next step. What that means is well, we've touched base on a few things, and I'm gonna be quite honest with you. The last two days, my mind's been 87 different places between anger, anxiety, uh, doubts of self-worth, you know, and I know where that's coming from because I'm about to make that step. I mean, this is a step right here. Um strength finance the finances has been the biggest impact out of all five of them. But because I just skated by before, but now it's it's a little more uh it's different right now. I mean, and I have a girl who's also financially savvy, so she helps me to too. I mean, and it's everything's starting to come into place. And then my fitness on a different level, I don't miss. You know how I am with commitment. Like you can't miss, like you don't have an excuse to miss. Uh, but it's it's dialed me back in the way I trained, the way I eat, I'm eating better. Um, so pretty much all of them. Family, I'm dialed in with my kids more, sending them Bible verses every day because I didn't read the Bible with them when I was married and we lived together.

SPEAKER_03 11:28

When you think through, you know, faith, all those things that we just mentioned, the core five, and one of those Fs is friends. And how has the group made a difference? Because I think some guys are like, I'm gonna do this by myself, I'm gonna loan wolf this, I got I'll figure it out. I'm a guy, my pride, my ego, like I don't need other dudes to help me in this walk. But having the Dunkin' guys and having other men in your lives, how has that played a difference as well? Because I think it gets overlooked. I think guys are always like, I'm good. Yeah, I'm good, I got this. How has it played a difference in your life of having other men around you like that?

SPEAKER_01 12:04

Right, right, right. Well, it's definitely served me some humble pie. All right, because I think pride, we all struggle with pride as men a little bit. Um and there's three solid guys in this group now that I can reach out on a regular and they're and I know they're gonna respond to me. And then when I look at my personal life and the friends I have in my personal life, I feel convicted. Because is this guy gonna toad a mat? Probably not. I don't trust him to. Is this guy bringing me closer, God? No, he's not. So that's a decision I have to make like where do I cut it off? Yeah, but I know I have three people that'll carry my mat. I'm a little bit bigger, so I might need a fourth one in there to help them a little bit. But uh no, it's it's really helped.

SPEAKER_03 12:46

That's really cool. So when we think through fitness, you got the lions and running, it's been a part of your life. When you talk to guys about, that's an F that a lot of guys struggle with, truthfully. They're they they they got the they they figured out faith, they're they're on their journey, you know. Family, hey, I'm that husband, I'm that father that God's called me to be. You know, I got a couple good guys around me. You know, my finances, I do what got I steward what God's given me. But then it's like fitness. They're like, well, I just don't, I got the other four, but I just I'm I'm missing fitness. Maybe they don't think it's as important, they don't have the time. Right. What are you telling guys that are coming in and maybe firing on four cylinders, but they need that fifth of fitness? Why is it important for fitness for a guy? Like, why do they need that?

SPEAKER_01 13:29

Right. Well, one of the stories I've told there, and I tell the kids that I trained too, God's given us 168 hours a week. If you can't donate three of those hours to fitness, maybe even just an hour and a half, 30 minutes three days a week, there's something you gotta mismanage your time, you're mismanaging it. Like, we gotta come back to the table and say, What can I not do to make this important? Because it's it's your health. Like, we're called to provide and protect. And at the end of the day, if if I'm out with my girlfriend and kids and something happens, you never know. We live in a very corrupted world. You have to be able to protect. And I and I try to tell the guys and the kids this like it's it has to be a priority, like a doctor appointment. Um, and that's what we're called to do. Let's be we don't always do what we're called to do. I'm guilty. That's one of the things, and that's one of my passions. So for me, it's easy where an entrepreneur to a business, he's got the finances locked down. We're that's somewhere where I struggle with. 168 hours, that's it. Three.

SPEAKER_00 14:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:35

You have 165 to do what you want.

SPEAKER_03 14:38

It's simple. Yeah. And I think when you said that to me, when you made that analogy in that group, I was like, dang. I didn't know that's how many hours we actually had, or made it that simple in my head of like, give me three. Yeah. Like, give me the three of those. When you think of guys that are like trying to figure out the time thing for them, or they don't take it seriously and they're trying to navigate it. What do you tell a guy that needs like a simple step of like, I do want to get my faith, faith is right, but I need to get my fitness up to where my faith is? Because we could say that that's where the imbalance, like, I I got the God thing, or whatever they want to describe it. They've got it figured out, or they're they're on that journey. But where do you tell a guy to get take that next step or what they need to work on to begin this journey of I okay, I'm gonna take my fitness seriously. I'm in for it. What do I need to do, Ed? What does that look like? And how do I start taking those steps in the right direction?

SPEAKER_01 15:30

Well, I just it's funny you said that because it's just had somebody walk right into the gym this past week and he's 67. He's like, I need it. Like, what do I do? I said, Mike, take 20 minutes three days a week and go for a walk. Text me when you're gonna leave, text me when you get back so I can hold you accountable. And since that, he's called me. He's like, I'm not much of a texture, but I'll call you. He's called me. So just take 20 minutes three days a week. Now we're now we're only taking an hour out of the 168, but you're getting yourself started. And then once you start doing after a few weeks, it'll become the norm. And then you can start adding some time and working in some other things. I mean, I mean, the fitness thing isn't just lifting weights, like that's my go-to power lifting and lifting weights. Um it could be go take a walk, do some push-ups. Like, it doesn't have to be to the extreme, but it's gotta be something.

SPEAKER_00 16:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:19

When you say those simple steps, you say guys of all ages you're working with. It may not be the powerlifting, it may not be the I'm I'm a no, I'm not an athlete anymore. It used to be, right? Coming out of that, like that was that could have been some a guy's identity. Like, oh, I was a boxer, I was a wrestler, I was a swimmer, whatever it is, like, and that was their identity for so long. They don't even know how to shift out of that. And like, I just got to take care of my body now. Or like, I don't want anything to do with fitness because I did it for so long. What are you telling guys like that? Because I think like we can live in that as an identity, as oh, I was that big wrestler in school. Everyone, and I I know that in a small town. And I mean, no, Schuogle can be like that a little bit. Well, I wrestled back in the day and they still hold on to that, and it's like, dude, that was 30 years ago. Right. Like, what are you telling guys that maybe struggle with identity that fitness was a piece of it? Now they lost they're six, fifty, sixty years old, and they're like, they're not rolling on the mat anymore. Right. What do you tell guys when they maybe struggle with identity in that fitness space? Right.

SPEAKER_01 17:14

Well, I think that's a mindset. Sometimes I get caught up in it too. Well, I'm gonna lift this much or that much. But when I was 20, 30, it was a lot more. So to those to the older generation, I try to um stress where are we at now? What's your fitness level? How old are you now? Because the body is just like a brand new vehicle, and the more miles you put on it, the more it breaks down. I wait, listen, I wake up every morning, something, the hips hurt, the shoulders hurt, something hurts, you know. Um, so we're we just we just set that uh fitness program, or just go start walking according to their age and their ability now. Like that's great, you did that. Accolades, all those things, trophies, medals you won. That's great. Those days are over now. Like we're a little older, a little more mature. Like we have to take care of our bodies. That's part of the fitness. Like, take care of it. Meet it where I'm not throwing 800 pounds in my back and squat and it'll break my knees off. You know, it's not gonna happen. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:13

When you say through, and I I we talked about this earlier on on the pod, but the importance of having a coach. Because some guys I think will say, Well, I got it. I watched, I watched this on YouTube or I saw TikTok and they told me how to do it this way. Right. Why is it important to sometimes for guys to swallow their pride and go get a coach? Get somebody to be able to you know speak into their life. Why is it so important to have coaches and have someone to be able to guide you through what you're looking to do?

SPEAKER_01 18:40

Biggest thing is accountability. I've been I performed at the best in powerlifting competitions when somebody was tutoring me because they held me accountable. I have kids that I train, I go to the high school weight room or go to like Planet Fitness, somewhere like that. And they say it's always harder here because I hold you accountable. You're not allowed to have your phone on, and I call your numbers. And when you say I can't, I say, Oh well, I'll help you because you're gonna, you know. And I think we need that. We need somebody to pull us along and help us, you know, and even if we can't do it, they're gonna help us, you know. Mentally, it's a win for them.

SPEAKER_03 19:17

100%. And I that that big piece that you just said right there, accountability. I think when I I think back over all the coaches I had in my life when I was swimming, and they were like, all right, you're gonna swim 100 yards, about 75 yards, I'd start slacking off and I'd come into the wall slow and they'd be like, What are you doing? Right. Right. It's that accountability piece of holding me accountable to that. And then it created discipline in my life because I know there's a coach watching me, coach trying to make me the best I can be. When you think of that and you're motivating these kids or any adults or men in general, like what's motivating to those types of guys or those kids that you're saying to them to keep them, because you're the coach, you're helping them get to that next level, whether it's on the field, off the field, just getting up and off the floor, getting out of bed, wherever they are in life. Like, what are some things that you're telling guys to help them keep moving the needle forward when sometimes it sucks? Right. And it's terrible and my hip hurts, my knee, my back hurts today.

SPEAKER_01 20:14

Like, what are you telling them to keep them going? I think sometimes you have to bring yourself down at their level. As a coach, I can't be like, well, I did this, you should be doing it. I never, never, never do that. Um, bring yourself down at their level. Hey, listen, I've had days. I've had kids come to me and you say, I just I don't have it today. And I say, you know, there are days you're not gonna trust me. I'm there. I'm there more than I days that I do have it. That we just push through it and come back tomorrow. Consistency is the key. You'll get it. I love it.

SPEAKER_03 20:42

When we think of these last quest, last two questions for you, really. You know, we think of fitness, we're talking about fitness, we're talking about faith, and we're talking about core five in general. How do you keep the balance? Right? Because I feel like sometimes we can go heavy, right? We'll go heavy into one and then they're like I think of it on like a almost a scale. We go so heavy on one, the other side's everything falls off, or we go too much into fitness and we're sacrificing time with family or whatever it is. Like, how do you keep that balance and what are you telling guys that are trying to get, you know, hey, I want my faith to be there, right? I want time with my family, I want fitness to be there. And we talked about the hours a little bit, but when we think about like that pendulum a little bit or the balance, how are you telling guys to stay balanced in all five areas?

SPEAKER_01 21:22

I'm guilty too. Like for me, a lot of times it's it goes one way, one of the five F's. Um But I think at the end of the day, if we sit back, we plan our day in the morning, we say, okay, when's my time with God? Most important. Um, because sometimes I feel like he gets his scraps and I'm guilty of it too. I'm doing a devotion at nine o'clock at night. Well, why didn't you get up this morning and do it? Because apathy said it and I wanted to sleep. That's why like this morning. But um it's if we can if we can map out the day, okay, well, I'm gonna take this time, my lunch break, and go work out. I'm gonna knock that out. I'm gonna see my kids later on. Um knock that out. And and friends for me, friends usually comes last. Uh maybe it shouldn't, but I know it's important. Um just reach out. Listen, we're on our phones all the time. How hard is it to reach out and say, hey, how you doing? You know, I love it. When one of the guys yesterday from the group, Road Check, how you doing? Like, I loved it. I and I needed it too, you know. So I think it's just how we mentally prepare our day. It starts in the beginning of the day and it doesn't start at 10 a.m. Like it's okay to get up early. Most most older guys get up a little bit earlier, you know, and just plan it out, map it out, you know, and you're gonna miss the mark some days. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:42

It's so good that you said that because I think sometimes we go into things and we don't plan. Right. We don't plan and then we just expect everything to fall into place. We don't get up early. We just I'll get to it when I get to it. And it's I so many times I hear that and you said it like God just gets it what's left over. Yeah, I'll try to squeeze them in when I can. But he's asking for a relationship with us. And any type of relationship you have, you got to put the time in. Right. Like relationships time, and that's that conversation, having that. And I'm so encouraged by the stuff you put in that messenger group on Facebook. Like that is so encouraging. And I know the guys talk about it all the time in the group of like, man, Ed missed today. Is he all right? Is he doing okay? Because like we need that. Yeah, we can even if no one's liking it or putting a heart on it. There's over 20, 30 some guys in that group that are getting a message with a verse and a like a thought today of what you got out of what God gave you that's impacting their lives. Right. The ripple effect that is happening by one guy taking their faith seriously can change the world. It could change that group, right? It could change one man in that room. Right. And we all are probably thinking the same guy in our head, and I hope it's changing him. Right. I I I hope I hope it's making an impact. And I think it is.

SPEAKER_01 23:51

Yeah, I think it is.

SPEAKER_03 23:52

I think it is too. And it's it's it gets me wound up when you think about it because I think there's something going on there. Uh-huh. And we get to witness God work in his life.

SPEAKER_01 24:00

Right.

SPEAKER_03 24:01

And to be able to be a part of that is is wild. And God invites us into that is wild. We are blessed. It's a blessing. And I just want to say to you, like, keep it going, man. Yeah. Like, don't stop. Like, you, whatever that, whatever Satan, whatever the devil is telling you, like, don't stop. Right. And I know I've invited you into some really cool stuff coming down the pipe. And I'm hyped for you to be there. Don't be discouraged by it.

SPEAKER_01 24:25

Right.

SPEAKER_03 24:25

Don't be discouraged because in School, we know School, we know Pottsville. We know that area. I haven't been there that long, but I've figured it out pretty quick. Yeah. And understanding, like, there's a lot of brokenness there. Satan has a chokehold in a lot of areas there, whether it's drugs, alcohol, you name it. Right. There's a chokehold there. And to be able to have lights in that community, like, don't give up, man. Right. Like, don't give up. Keep fighting. Keep fighting. Last question for you. What do you want your legacy to be when it's all said and done?

SPEAKER_01 24:54

That's crazy you're asking me this because I just went through this whole mindset last week, and I might actually posted something. It's not about records and it's not about trophies. It's not even about he was a good guy. I don't even want that. I want when I leave them to say, yo, he loved Jesus. And he loved people like Jesus loved. You know, he was opened the door for people he don't even know, picking trash up off the ground in his grocery store when who really wants to do that, you know. I want them to see how Jesus loved with the way I loved, which I won't be able obviously I can't compare to it, but I don't want it to be about, oh, he was a great power lifter. He you know mentored kids. No, that that'll all be in the past. You know, the trophies thrown away. Like actually when I moved, I threw half of them away. I'm like, I don't need what do these things things mean?

SPEAKER_03 25:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:51

That's all.

SPEAKER_03 25:52

Man, that's so good because I think we can get caught up on stuff, but I can tell you you're doing it, man.

unknown 25:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:56

I can tell you that now. Like straight up. Like that's that that legacy that you're creating is happening now. That love for people is happening now in those groups, and I hear those conversations when we're in small group, that love is there. Those those strong challenges that you're given to people, and I hear them, and guys kind of, ugh, and sometimes I'm like, oh, Ed, but yes, like come on, like preach it. Like, because we need that. I mean, iron sharpens iron. It's not a pretty thing.

SPEAKER_01 26:23

No, not pretty much.

SPEAKER_03 26:24

It's it's not a pretty proxy. 100%. And I feel like that group sometimes rides a fine line sometimes. But we need it. We need it in our lives. We need to be challenged. We need people to keep pushing us. And I thank you for being that in School because you're such an encouragement to me to keep showing up at Dunkin' Donuts. Right. Because the impact that's happening, impact you're making on guys' lives. So like keep it going, man. Like keep it going. Thanks again for coming on the pod. I appreciate you. Thanks for having me. Absolutely. Thanks for just talking about faith, fitness, and just being vulnerable today. Okay. Awesome. Well, thanks so much for joining us on the Men of Iron Podcast. If you're trying to grow in maybe one of these areas, check out Game Plan. That's going to dive into the core five. That's faith, family, friends, fitness, and finances. You can find out the link below. And thanks again for joining us on the Men of Iron Podcast.

SPEAKER_00 27:08

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