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How to Prepare Before Life Gets Expensive W/ Scott Davis
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How can I start saving before life’s expenses pile up?
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This week on MOI Podcast, hosts Colton and Scott dive deep into the essential habits every man needs to build for a strong financial future. If you’ve ever struggled with living paycheck to paycheck, felt the pressure of providing for your family, or wondered how your financial life impacts your leadership at home and work, this episode is for you. Hear relatable stories and practical advice on breaking free from instant gratification, building “rainy day” funds, and carving out financial margin that sustains you through both emergencies and opportunities.
"Am I a disciplined man when it comes to my finances, or just in my faith?" Colton asks, getting real about the areas where most men slip up—and why stewardship matters in every season of life. Discover how creating a real, actionable plan (and sticking to it) can eliminate pressure on your marriage, multiply your leadership impact, and help you provide not just for today, but for tomorrow.
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Our phones can bring everything to us right now, right? And I think that's how we can get that way of just for society as a whole of like, I want it now, I'm not gonna save for it, I'm not gonna plan for it, I just want it now, now, now, now, and how much that digs us in a hole in life. Welcome back to the Men of Iron Podcast. This month we are jumping into a man's finances and looking at them, talking about them, and the saying or the phrase that we use a lot is give it, save it, spend it. And we talked about give it last week with Scott, and we're jumping into the save it part. And this is one of those that I think is super important. It's something for me. I love the perspective that I think this pod's gonna give just from the age difference. I'm not trying to say Scott's old, he's young, he's a young guy at heart. But what's super important for this for me is I'm just starting to get on this track of the save it side, right? For myself personally, um, I'm 30 some years old now, and it's like, okay, maybe I should start. I was very much suspended. My 20s was the spend it, spend it era, and now it's starting to get to that spot of like, I think I should save a little bit or figure out how to save it or what I should do. So I'm I'm excited about this opportunity to talk with you, Scott, about the save it. Yeah, man. Good to be back.
SPEAKER_03Uh a lot to say about the save it for sure.
SPEAKER_00So when we think of the save it side, I think I instantly go to like just putting money in the bank account, like it making sure I have some back there for a rainy day, right? My mom used to always call that like you should have a little rainy day fun, right? And I think that's probably smart maybe in my 20s, right? But as I got married, I have a son now. I think that you have to get past the rainy day fun. Yeah. And uh save it can very much at a younger age be like, well, I just, you know, this is my my first check. Once it goes in, it's going out. Like it's it's it doesn't spend a lot of time in that bank account. As soon as it hits the bank account, it's coming out and going into something that I want or something that I think I need, right? Um, so from that perspective on this save it, and we think of that for guys that are listening, or even for younger guys, older guys, it doesn't matter. We're on a journey when we think of save it. Why is it important when we talk about the word save it and the emotion that can come with that? We talked about the give it emotion, right? I don't want to give it because it's mine. Why is it important to actually save it though? And some emotion that can be uh tied to that. There's always emotion when it comes to finances, there's always emotion tied to money. Absolutely. So, what does it look like? And what do you think about it?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I mean, uh, I think the first thing that comes to mind is uh we fight against that because we want the instant gratification of having what we want when we want it. And I think that starts at a very young age. Um, and it takes discipline to get out of that. And I I'm Colton, I was like you, man. When I was in my younger years, if I got any any extra cash from working an overtime day or uh anything at all, a tax refund, I already had it spent, you know, in my mind. I'm thinking, I've been looking at this cool set of wheels I want to put on my truck. Or I'm you know, I've been looking at this vacation spot, and this will this will get me about three days there. So um it's hard. I think the discipline part of it, and to me, about the save thing, you gotta look at it like um it's your future. Like you can't always live on the instant gratification or you you want save. So it's a mindset. We we talk about mindset a lot, but it determines your actions, it has to happen in your head before you can do it. So you got to get your mind right about why am I even talking about saving? What is that? What is that for? So you you draw back, you know, from that 30,000-foot view and you start looking at life, you're like, oh wow, yeah, there is the future is coming. You know, it's gonna be here. So what am I gonna do?
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SPEAKER_00I think this this this savor for me, and I was like you said, I was in that boat of spend, spend, spend, spend, spend. And one of the things that I've learned and I'm learning, I'll never say I stop learning, right? Is it it came into perspective of I'm not just like storing money up. Like that's not the goal of why I'm I'm I'm I'm just not putting it back there just so I have it, right? It's for those unexpected things that come up. I was just I was talking just a little bit before, like we have a house now and there's always something that goes wrong, right? And I think sometimes if you don't, if you're not properly prepared and you're not disciplined, I love what you use there because I think like we talk about that word all the time, and it's like, oh, I'm disciplined in my faith and my discipline, but am I disciplined in my finances? Right. And I think that's one that it's like uh sometimes, right? Sometimes I am, especially when I was younger, definitely wasn't. I can tell you that. Definitely wasn't when I was younger. But when I think of it now, it's really creating that margin for my future. That's really what it's doing. It's really putting something back there so I know. And really, what I want to share the story when finances truly kind of hit me, I was on an EQ. And I think sometimes we get caught in that run of we're always doing the thing or teaching the thing, but we never get a chance just to sit and receive or get to experience what these guys get to experience all the time. But I was on an EQ with Garrett. We were up at the cabin, a couple guys, and we hit this finance section, and I was like, Yeah, we're good. Like, we don't have debt. Like, you know, I mean, that's a great spot, you know. We don't, we're not, we're not swimming in debt. Like we, I mean, we have our mortgage, and that's like in our regular bills. Like, I think we're in a good spot. And Garrett's like, yeah, you are. I think you are in a good spot. That's like great, you know, you're 30 some years old, and people say that, great, you know, you're doing awesome. But what about the future? Are you preparing for the future? What happens if something happens to you, Colton? Like, and I was just like, I didn't think I never thought of that. Right? I'm 30 some years old. I never, I never thought of that. Never never pun or never even thought about that, even something happening to me. And as I as I look at my life now, am I setting my family up for success? Am I set am I looking at their future? Am I looking at if something would happen? Am I am I prep are we prepared in any capacity? Are we actually prepared? So I think that's when that save it comes into perspective of like, it's a it's a preparation. God's given us so much, as we talked about, you know, he's given us so much in that give it section on the last pod. I think sometimes on that save it side, it's always spend, spin, spend, and it can be gluttony. I think that's I think I think that really what it can boil down to of you know, God's given all this to me, but I'm just gonna spend it all. Yeah, I'm not gonna save it, and not actually thinking about the future and what's best for even myself, but also even my family and who it actually affects by me having that, not switching my mindset of making sure that I'm taking care of what God has given me.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, man. I mean, uh what you're really talking about is facing and owning up and finding out uh what is my responsibility as a man. You know, and being being single and young and having the liberty maybe to spend a little bit more than you do when you get a wife and then start building a family, you have to really come to grips with the fact of I have to be a responsible husband now and then a responsible father. And what does that look like? Well, yeah, we have to be the provider. We have to be the protector, God's called us to that, the the the priest of the home, the king of the home, but uh still um you have to be the protector. The protector in part of that and the responsibility of that is what if, right? What if something happens to me now? Uh am I gonna leave a hardship for my child, or am I gonna leave a hardship for my wife to be able to survive, you know? Uh not not necessarily just thrive, but to survive, to have a home, to have what they need. So if you're not ready for that responsibility and the reality of it and to do something about it, it is better for you to stay single. Because that's that's not a that's not something. I mean you know, we laugh at that, but I do believe that one day we will we will stand before God and give an account on what we did and our responsibilities. Uh thank God we won't give an account for our sin because Christ paid for that on the cross. That's done. That's uh that's paid, paid in full. But I I do feel like we'll have uh other responsibilities, and uh, I don't want to stand there one day and say, yeah, I should probably should have done better with that. Um so to me that's where it goes in my mind is am I being a responsible husband, responsible father? Number one, am I taking care of my uh things in my life that are mean the most to me? So that's where the the save it part comes in. And I'm sure we're gonna get into it, but that that looks there's a multiple ways that that can look in our life.
SPEAKER_00When we think of the save it, and one of the things that I think when we think of finances and we think of this area, what pressure that can actually put on our relationship with our wives or with our family or those different areas. And I think when we go to the discipline, when we think of that discipline side of it, we need to be disciplined in that because I don't want that pressure that I something that I actually can control, right, to put pressure on my marriage. And I think that's uh through all those F's and all the things we always talk about through the core five. It's I'm just not being disciplined in it. Yeah. And I think, and there's definitely seasons where I've had that lack of discipline and reaped it, reaped the consequences for it. And that can go across all core five, but even in our finances, right? We we don't we don't do it, we don't save it, and then situations come up and it's like this puts a tension in our marriage over something that was very easily avoidable. I think that's with a lot of things, but very easy because I didn't because I wanted that new thing. I had like you were saying, I have a I have a Toyota tundra, I got the lift on, I got the nice wear, need it, need it, right? Like that, like I feel like I need that, I need that. Hey, that truck runs just fine without the big tires and the big wheels and the lift, right? It runs just fine, but it's something I feel like I need or I want to have it, right? And I'm not saying those things are bad. I'm not saying those things are bad, but we have to save for it, right? It can't be that impulse. I think sometimes we get caught in that impulse of like, well, I got that paycheck, I need it. And I think that's something that I'm definitely learning for sure, and how to save it properly with being a dad now, being being a husband, making sure that we're saving for the future. Um, I think that's something that we miss a lot. What are some areas that I think, and I'm looking for wisdom here for this one? Like, what are some things that guys, even my age, younger generation, 20s, 30s, 40s, looking at right now that we should start saving for? I think sometimes we we don't think down the road that far. I think sometimes it's very in the moment until that kind of starts to switch in our minds on that save it side. Why is it important to save? And but what are some things that we don't really think about on the save it side that's super important?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, uh, so I mean, first of all, you mentioned it can cause problems in a in your marriage, of course, finances are huge. Um, you have to get on the same page with your spouse. Um, and to me, my wife Lori and I, we we started um the first year we were married, we sat down and we do this thing we call the same page retreat, and it's just her and I. And I know I've talked to you about that, Colton. I think you and your wife have done that as well. But you actually sit down and you cover the core five: the faith, family, friends, fitness finances as a couple. Every person should have individual goals in those five categories, but I believe every married couple should also have goals to look at and things to pray about and things to shoot for. So when we sit down, we talk about finances, um, the the category of finances, we're real and raw about it. We're that okay, this is how much we have coming in, this is how much we have going out for bills, and of course, our tithe comes off the top before the bills, then the bills, then this is how much we have to give above and beyond. So we call these um buckets or bucket accounts where we try to look at the total that we have that may be extra at the time, and we divide it up into these certain buckets. Now, as as the seasons of life change, those buckets look different, right? When you're young, you should have things, you should be thinking ahead. If you have a child, then number one, have an emergency fund for the thing, the unexpected, right? Uh, because they're gonna happen. That's just life. Uh and Lori and I would have uh funds for education, for the college, for the they're gonna start driving one day. So go ahead and put a little bit in for a car. You don't want to have to come out of your pocket all of a sudden or finance something else on the first car. Um that's just the way I was taught coming up. Uh, I wasn't the guy that grew up and got the brand new Trans Am when I turned 16. Uh, nothing wrong with that, but I got a whole lot of opinion on that. We can talk about some other time, but uh, because they'll get they're gonna get wrecked. Um so save for the car, whatever that looks like. If you have a daughter, please, Lord Jesus, help us save for the wedding. Um, because some of those are crazy. Uh, life event, whatever that means, whatever that looks like, whatever that life event is, don't wait until you have to put it on credit and pay bills forever or payments. So, yeah, to me, it's like you got to look at what you have, look at what you have to spend after your tithe. Are you gonna are you even gonna have enough left over to do something with? And if you do, and no matter how small that is, you have to start somewhere. Because if you're a homeowner, we talked about this. One day you got to buy a roof, those are not cheap. One day you'll have to replace an AC, that's not cheap. So to have emergency funds and to have intentionality and putting a little bit here, a little bit here, and a little bit here, you'll trust me, you'll be glad that you did. Otherwise, you get older and older in seasons of life, and you find yourself with a bunch of debt because you had to put something on credit or on a payment plan, and now you're looking at retirement one day and a fixed income, and you have all these debts you still have to pay. That's not a good thing. That's not a good thing. You want to be at that point in your life to where you want to do stuff for your grandchildren, you want to spend time with your family, you want to be able to take them on a vacation, whatever, whatever that looks like. What if you don't get this straight young, that's probably not gonna happen unless you uh fall into a million dollars or a bunch of money somewhere, which normally don't happen to most people. So, yeah, that's kind of my my take on it. Is plan for the future intentionally. Put those things down. It's uh it's almost like paying off debt, right? You take one and you chip away at it. Well, getting a uh how much do you need for a wedding one day? How much do you need for a car? Chip away at it. Start just saving when they're young. And uh you'll be so glad that you did that.
SPEAKER_00One of the biggest things I just what what when you were talking there made me think of is like you need to have a plan.
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SPEAKER_00And you need to stay disciplined to that plan. I mean, we talk day in and day out, smart goals, setting up, building this plan out. That doesn't change outside, just because it's a you know, hey, I want to get stronger in my faith. This is the this is the smart goal, this is the plan that I'm I'm I'm gonna attack with it. It doesn't change when it gets to finances. Right. You know, when we talk about friends, like these are the these are the core things that you know, these are the guys I need in my life, and this is the plan, this is the action steps I'm gonna take. It doesn't change when you go to finances. And sometimes we can we can put it in a separate bucket. I think finances a lot for guys, even for myself, this is personal either, it slides to the back burner instantly. Like I'm like, okay, I need a strong faith. Absolutely. I am not here to, I think that is the foundation for everything. Yeah, but those other F's fall in place as well. They all have a spot. And if we let an F slide, it starts to create a ripple effect back into those other ones of why I can't do those things that I want to do for, like you were saying, for my family, for my kids, for my friends, whatever it is, I don't have the finances to be able to do certain things because I had this really truly not discipline in that area to save it. And we become very self-centered in that of well, I made it, I think it goes back to the give it a little bit. They all kind of tie together to a certain extent. Like I'm just I'm just saving, save it, save it, save it, save it, save it. Or I'm spend it, spend it, spend it, spend it, spend, and I'm not, and I'm not properly saving for that future. We can get we become undisciplined, and that's something that I think we just don't view it very well when it comes to finances. We don't take it seriously when it comes to finances. I think as you get older, you do, right? Because then it's like, all right, well, I'm probably, you know, maybe retirement's around the corner for you, and you're looking like, man, I didn't, I wish I would have been saving like I am now when I was back in my 20s and 30s. I'd be in a whole different spot, right? And then you're viewing it that way. You're like, man, I'm gonna probably have to work until I'm 70, 80 years old if you ever were, you know, retirement's on the table for you. And I think that's something that like I'm starting to get my head around as a younger guy, and that's my encouragement to younger guys, and what you're saying is like start to build that plan out and stay disciplined to the plan because we can we can have these tangents where we just start spend, spend, spend, and we don't save, save, save. And I think that's something that we need to wrap our heads around as younger guys. We need to start now. This can't be a down the road thing. God's given you, He's given us so much, like you were talking about. He with the Skittles story, which I love that Skittles story, but He's given us so much, but we have to steward it well, right? And I think we miss the stewardship boat sometimes, especially in our younger years.
SPEAKER_03Right. And you know, we were talking about the I talked about the same page retreat that Lori and I do. When you communication is so key in your marriage, uh to have the same goals, to be able to work towards those goals, to hold each other accountable when we want to get off track and go by the boat and go by the the motorcycle. Nothing wrong with those things if that was your goal and you saved for it. But to me, that's the main thing is to sit down if you're married, sit down and if you're single, sit down and look at your budget, look at your in and out, look at everything you want to accomplish and put some category names on these things and decide how much can we and how much should we save for each one of these on a weekly or monthly basis, because that little bit now, weekly or monthly, turns into a pretty good bit after a couple of years if you can be disciplined, like you said, enough to stick to the plan. But if you are married, form that plan together, because without that communication and that goal together, that is gonna be huge friction when it comes to finances. That's the way it is. It can be a uniter or a divider. And so you want it to be a uniter, go at it together.
SPEAKER_00When I think of it, it just kind of came to me a little bit as you're as we're talking about this topic on the save it side. How uh if we think of the save it, how much Easier does it make it on the two opposite ends of the give it, and then we're gonna talk about spend it next week. Like, how much easier does that allow those things to actually take place? Right? If I'm actually saving and stewarding what God is actually giving me, right? He's given me so much. We all like I have nothing to complain about, truthfully. If you really if you really want to boil it down, I got nothing to complain about. So he's given me so much and I've I've saved it, I've been responsible, I've stewarded it. How does it how much easier is it to allow the give it to happen and then the spend it to happen? Because I'm stewarding what God's given me.
SPEAKER_03That's so true. You know, there's a lot of the freedom in that is brings a lot of joy to your life. Um, one of the things we like to do is to make sure we have some money available that's not already accounted for in any other bucket is above and beyond, is what we call it most times. Is if something comes up that's a need, it's around you, um, whatever that looks like, and the Holy Spirit goes, You need to help. It's so freeing to know you can do that and be a tool that God uses in somebody else's life in a moment of need, and it's not gonna devastate what you're already doing with your life and budget. So, yeah, the freedom is amazing that that creates for you.
SPEAKER_00As we think of the save it and to kind of bring all these thoughts together, what would you say is like a small step? We talk on baby steps, or just that first momentum, or that for you've said a bunch of different things and I've loved it all. What would be a first step for a guy, though? That's like maybe a young guy. Give me some wisdom here, Scott, on that of like, what's my first baby step into thinking that through? Maybe I'm married, maybe I'm not. Maybe there's two different perspectives on that. Maybe you can give on that as well. But what's that baby step that I should start, you know, moving the needle towards and maybe making those buckets, making those things in my whatever it is, what are those steps look like? And how could a guy go about doing something like that?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I would say uh number one, the first step is to sit down and do the work, um, do the research on where where are you in your income and where are you in your outgoing your spend it expenditures? Look at that realistically and honestly. You gotta do that first to figure out where you're at financially before you can do do any of the saving or spending. And then I would say uh these are all priorities, but when you sit down and you realize where you are, it determines where you can go. So make the priority list next. And of course, I already said it for us. We tithe and then we look at bills. Everything else we look at, is it something that we need, or is it something that we want, or is it something that is gonna be a uh uh a need in the future? You got to prioritize those things and start with the highest priority, whether it's I want an emergency fund, I want to have the security in my mind that if something comes up that's 20 grand, it's not gonna devastate me. So I'm gonna start X amount of what I have left, X amount goes into the emergency fund until I build it to this certain point and get that under your belt, and then don't touch it. And then what's the next step? What's the next thing? Um maybe it's a vacation for you. Who knows? Well, how much is that gonna cost? Put the goal out there, hold yourself accountable, or even yet um get a friend to help you. If you have a problem with the spend, then you need to have someone holding you accountable and say, hey, are you hitting your priorities first before you go buy that next thing, whatever, whatever that is in your life? Uh so I think it's we we overthink it too much sometimes. If you need help, talk to a financial advisor or someone. Um there's someone in your family or someone a friend a friend knows that can help you with some advice on this, but you gotta look at it realistically. What do I have? What do I have to spend to survive right now? Next, what's my highest priority? And start working on it. Take a little bit out and start saving it. And start there. You don't have to and put a put like a goal, a deadline, figure it up. If I give this much every week or month, how long is it gonna take me? Add it up by this date. It's always good to have dates, say by this date, I want this much in this fund, and then I'm gonna chip away at the next priority, and the next priority. Next thing you know, you're looking, you're looking at your future there and the possibilities of uh unexpected events crashing your budget. Well, it's not gonna happen if you're planning and hitting those priorities. So it just takes time, consistency, and accountability.
SPEAKER_00What I love the most, and I think this is one of the things that we talked about a you know a couple episodes ago, but when we talk about core five in general, like those those three words that you just threw out there are across all core five. Like that's that that accountability, being disciplined, stewardship, making a plan, setting a smart goal, putting making it like true that I have someone that's gonna check in and be like, hey, are you doing this? Yeah, like that goes across all core five. And I think that's something that we need to realize as men in general, and as we're talking here, it's even bringing some realization for myself of like I can be disciplined in maybe some other areas, but I always let this something slide. And it's across the board. I think that's what we always talk about creating that balance in there of having balance across the core five because the ripple effect of if I'm not taking it seriously, how's it gonna affect something else? And how's that scale gonna quickly change, especially, especially for the things that you're talking about, even those unexpected events and how much tension that can instantly like I think of almost like a chain when you when two things are being pulled, and that tension automatically comes like we didn't plan properly, and now this tension in my marriage comes because the roof gave out or the car broke, or you know, I took the car in the garage. That's always a mystery. Hey, I'm dropping the car up at the garage, let's see what this is gonna come to be, right? But it creates that tension there because we didn't plan properly. And I as a provider, as you were talking about before, I didn't think it through. I didn't think of the future, I just thought about the now, and I didn't think about how am I preparing or what am I doing to help set my family up for success. It's that instant gratification that we're after. I think I think that's that's a society thing, that's a cultural thing. I want it now, I want it like we can our phones can bring everything to us right now, right? And I and I think that's how we can get that way of just for society as a whole of like I want it now, I'm not gonna save for it, I'm not gonna plan for it, I just want it now, now, now, now, and how much that digs us in a hole in life.
SPEAKER_03Man, I'm gonna tell you, and it's so much worse now than when I was your age or even younger, there was no Amazon. You couldn't hit, uh pick your phone up and have what you wanted at your door within hours now. I mean, it's absolutely crazy uh how easy it is to be to spend money. And it's uh if you don't have those guardrails in place and that accountability, like you you mentioned for all uh of the core five categories, because they all do affect each other. It's like a big web. When one suffers, they all start declining. So yeah, man, it's so important um to have that accountability with with somebody and have a have a plan and stick to it. Um you can do it. I mean, you can do it. I I was that guy too. When I was your age and I was young, I was struggling with the save part, and you know, my biggest thing was, man, I'm young. I got plenty of time for that. I'll save later. No, you won't, because the next thing you know, it's later. It's on you, it's there, and you're like, oh man, I never just start doing that. So if I could say anything to the younger audience today, would be if you're 40 or below, 35 or below, dude, do it as soon as you can. Start as soon as you can, and don't think I'll do it one day. Because you want. You want. Um, so go ahead and get started with it, make it a discipline in your life, and when you get older in different seasons of your life, things will be there that you need for them to be there, and it will cause less friction. And I'm gonna tell you, like I said, if you're married, the finances are either gonna be a unifier or a divider. You want it, you want to be unified, and there's something about being, I've done this, being able to save for an emergency, and then it happens, and you look at each other and go, man, I'm so glad we did that. I'm so glad we saved that, and you're able to take care of the problem and it didn't affect your budget. That's a game changer. It's a game changer, and it will bring you, it will bind you together even closer because you got the victory right. It didn't meet us. We had the money, we won. So, and then you start building it again. But yeah, man, good stuff, Colton.
SPEAKER_00And I appreciate you, Scott. Thanks for coming on today and just talking about this finances as a whole. We talked about give it, we talked about save it today. And I think I just thank you for even some wisdom. Wiz wisdom from Florida. Yeah, just on that save it side of how we sometimes push finances to the back burner. And when those situations happen or things creep into our life and we don't have that save it principle in our lives on finances, how easily tension across all those five can happen. Yeah, man. And so I just thank you for your time today and coming on the pod.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, thanks, man. It's fun.
SPEAKER_00Appreciate it. Well, thank you so much for joining us on the Men of Iron Podcast, talking about finances, the give it, save it, suspended principles that we are talking about this month. And just join us again next week as we finish up this series on give it, save it, spend it, and advanced finances. Thanks for joining the Men of Iron Podcast.
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