S2 Episode 2 - Going Boldly Into Midlife and Beyond with Sarah Jones

In this engaging conversation, Sarah shares her journey from a hobbyist baker to the founder of Incredible Toppers, a successful business specialising in cake and cocktail toppers. She discusses the challenges and triumphs of entrepreneurship, the importance of family support, and the confidence needed to navigate the business world, especially as a woman in her 50s. The conversation also touches on the humorous side of cake disasters and the joy of creating memorable cakes for special occasions. Sarah concludes with a fun cocktail recipe, aptly named 'midlife monkey crisis.'

Sarah is a passionate entrepreneur. She founded her business aged 45 after 34 years in customer service. She’s a mother of two adult children and owner of a golden retriever. Having previously run a cake business, she shifted her focus to a now thriving edible cocktail and cake topper venture, often taking orders for thousands of toppers at a time She enjoys travelling, spending time with friends and walking in the Lake District with her dog and Welsh husband.

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Website: www.incredibletoppers.co.uk/

Instagram: @incredibletoppers

Takeaways

Sarah started her cake business at 44 and is now thriving.

Confidence is key in starting a business, regardless of age.

Social media is crucial for marketing, even if it's intimidating.

Disasters happen, but they can lead to valuable lessons.

Family support plays a significant role in entrepreneurial success.

It's important to find joy in your work and hobbies.

Creating memorable cakes can be a rewarding experience.

A positive mindset helps overcome challenges in business.

Networking and building relationships are essential for growth.

Embracing change and challenges can lead to new opportunities.

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Transcript

Hear Me Roar (00:32)

I'm not even in the picture hello! Shove up woman! I am shoving up. Can anyone hear us? are? Yeah that's it's always a good start when we remember to turn the microwave on. Yes let's go and turn the microwave on let's go and pour ourselves into the microwave and do our podcast from in there. So I've had my hair done this week not that not that you noticed. Is it shorter? Yeah well it's just had a trim. It grows right?

It doesn't grow down the way, it grows out the way and it just gets a bigger and bigger and bigger helmet. Nice. And so eventually the helmet gets the point where, do know Crichton off of Red Dwarf? Yes, vaguely. Yeah, he's got a bit of a square head going on. Oh him? Yeah, is that what you get? Yeah. Like a Lego head. Yeah, basically. Remind me not to be seen with you when you look like that. Yeah, so I had it trimmed and...

I'm back to looking svelte and gorgeous and sexy. Did you see my poem this morning? I did, I liked it. did you? I thought I commented. I haven't looked. I said it's absolutely brilliant or something like that. Thank you very much. It's very good poem. It's about the old lady in the shop window where you look and you just don't recognise yourself sometimes. You don't. Sometimes I catch myself in the mirror and think, what the hell's happened there? I know. And I just wanted to write something a little bit uplifting that

for people who look and go, oh my God. And also for people who don't feel seen. Which is what we get at our age. of people at age don't feel seen. like most people, I'm like 59 in my mirror, but 25 in my head.

My mum used to say to me when I when I was young she used to say you know I still feel 18 in my head and I used to think to look at her and think for goodness sake don't be so ridiculous but I understand it because I think that in my head and I look in the mirror and go oh you're so not 18 are you? I know. Bit of a shock when look in the mirror. No it was a lovely poem. Thank you. You're welcome.

Anyway, we've got Sarah with us today and Sarah Jones and she has a business called Incredible Toppers and she's a passionate entrepreneur founded her business aged 45 after 34 years in customer service. She's a mother of two adult children and an owner of a golden retriever. So having previously run a cake business.

She shifted her focus to a now thriving edible cocktail and cake topper business, often taking orders for thousands of toppers at a time. She enjoys traveling, spending time with friends and walking in the Lake District with her dog and her Welsh husband. Yeah. So let's go and meet her. Yeah.

Hear Me Roar (03:11)

Hello, Sarah!

Sarah (03:13)

Hello!

Hello, Marie and Yvonne

Hear Me Roar (03:16)

Hiya, it's lovely to meet you. I know that you know Marie already, but this is the first time we've met.

Sarah (03:23)

It certainly is and I certainly do know Marie. That's why I said the hello at the beginning.

Hear Me Roar (03:28)

Yes, hello!

My signature, hello! This is my signature entrance. Yes it is, yep.

Sarah (03:32)

and

I'm very excited, can I just say, because I've never done a podcast before. So I'm very, I was just saying it's very exciting.

Hear Me Roar (03:44)

Yes, we are popping... Go on.

Yes, we are popping your podcast cherry, so to speak. ⁓ very nice. I'm touched for the very first time. ⁓

Sarah (03:57)

Bye!

Hear Me Roar (04:01)

I'm sorry.

Sarah (04:04)

So funny and I hope

I'm sort of in the right zone here. My phone is actually sitting on my egg box at the moment just so that I'm in the zone.

Hear Me Roar (04:08)

You find.

Yes, you're fine now. At least if you're hungry

there's a little snack in there. Raw egg. Yum yum yum. So Sarah, I I haven't met you before so I'm dying to find out more about you. we'll get into what you're doing now with your cake toppers but what led you to that?

Sarah (04:18)

Ooh.

well, it's a very long story but I'll try and like condense a little bit. So basically I started a cake business first and how that came about was it was a hobby and I've done cake, made cakes since I was probably four years old in the kitchen you know our era was very like that with your grandmother, mother, baking cakes because that's what you did. ⁓

Hear Me Roar (04:41)

you

Sarah (05:04)

And I loved it always. It's kind of like my de-stress room in the house is the kitchen. It's where I go. I love to bake and so forth. ⁓ And then as I got older in my teenage years, I started doing sugar craft and I went to cake classes. I went to all these different classes and I loved it, but it wasn't very cool and trendy at that time. So I didn't tell anybody that I would go to these classes and make all these

Hear Me Roar (05:28)

you

Sarah (05:33)

fiddly things out of sugar. And then as I got older, I had the kids, never had time for it. And you know, I would just make cakes for their birthdays and for hobbies and things like that. And then I thought if I'm going to be covered in flour and sprinkles, I'm going to, I want to be paid for it because I was constantly cleaning the kitchen. It was covered in flour all the time. Mind, I was one of these mothers that my two boys, I would get them in the kitchen and I would

get their hands and their head in the flour and get them baking and I couldn't, I didn't mind about the mess I just think, you know, that's what it's supposed to be about when the kids are little

Hear Me Roar (06:08)

Thank

Sarah (06:12)

so I set up the cake business first and then it just went absolutely bonkers and I work part-time as well. I still do that. I've worked in a customer service role for 33 years in the same business, and I think that's helped a lot of my skills to set up a business because I know how to

you know, financial, how to do all of that, set up a website. And so that's where it started really. But then the cakes started becoming really busy and I loved it. But then I always wanted to have my cakes as my hobby and it started to get too much.

but I then would order like edible prints for my cakes.

So I thought, actually, I'm gonna give that a go, see how that works. So I set up a website specifically for the cake toppers, thinking it'll just be, you know, I'll get a couple of orders a month or something like that. And then the day that we set the website up, me and my husband were sitting watching the telly and we were waiting for the orders to come in. We were like sitting there for ages. And I'm like, oh God, this is awful. Like, are we gonna?

of I think I've to, you what have I done and why have I spent this money on setting up a website and nobody's going to order anything. And then it was kerching! My first order came in. And because I do, get that noise when I get an order on the website. So, so then it just went from there, really. And I love it.

Hear Me Roar (07:39)

Yeah.

So how have you gone about marketing it then? Because obviously sitting in your lounge isn't going to get orders while you wait for the kerching. You must have had to do some kind of marketing.

Sarah (07:55)

Yes, so I set up my website. I had done a bit market research before. I had contacted some cake businesses and people that I know to say like, you know, do you order these things? you know what what do you use them for? And then there was a demand for it. So I thought, right, I'm going to give it a go. But then I set up my Facebook page, Instagram, which like I hate Instagram with a passion because I'm not very good at it.

Hear Me Roar (08:21)

Hmm.

Sarah (08:22)

But I do try, but like, you know, people would say, do a reel. And I'm like, what, on earth's reel? I don't know what a reel is. Like, what's one of them? So, you know, so I set up my Facebook, my Instagram, TikTok's another one. apparently, that's where all the young'uns go. you know, I'm past, I'm sorry, but I'm past that. I can't be bothered to TikTok.

So, but I do get, most of my orders do come from my Facebook page and Instagram. Actually, a lot of my cake customers, my cake toppers come from Facebook and I also do cocktail toppers, which are edible, which you put on a frothy cocktail and I get mainly orders from Instagram on there because I think it's like the younger followers, aren't they?

Hear Me Roar (09:11)

Yeah, do you think

the cocktail toppers appeal more to the younger age range then?

Sarah (09:18)

Yeah, yeah, because they're well saying that I was out last night socializing

Hear Me Roar (09:24)

I don't know if I've ever seen a cocktail topper. I didn't even realise there was such a thing. And I know my cocktails! How have I not had a cocktail topper?

What are they made of? Right, same as the cake toppers.

Sarah (09:36)

Just rice paper, so it's completely edible.

Yeah, yeah, well the cake toppers we do the rice paper, but we do what we call edible wafer card, which is thicker rice paper. So they're good for, you know, kids' cakes where you can stand them up and you can see the logo. And then we do icing ones as well, which are good for putting on, you can put them on desserts, people put them on cookies. We've had people order the rice ones for bread.

Hear Me Roar (09:52)

you

Sarah (10:05)

or you know like if you want your logo on something honestly that it's amazing what you can use it all for. ⁓

Hear Me Roar (10:12)

Oh, you like,

do you mean like on artisanal, is that how say it? Artisanal bread, there's a, artisan thanks, thanks love. Yeah, there's a little, there's a little white circle of rice paper stuck on the side of it. Is that what you mean? This is a whole new world, isn't it? Rushes out, buys bread.

Sarah (10:25)

Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So you see cake toppers, you know I've got one lady who orders and she uses them on milkshakes so she puts the tiny tiny ones that we do, the icing ones and she'll put, so she'll have the milkshakes, the ice cream and then the whipped cream on the top and then she'll put the top, you've got, they don't last for long so you put it on just before you serve it but it looks really good.

Hear Me Roar (10:58)

I bet that looks fab yeah. Oh, gosh. So all of this, this success it takes a certain kind of confidence to to start a business what gave you that confidence?

Sarah (11:00)

Thank you.

I think at the time when I set it up and I'll be completely honest and I wanted to earn some extra money as well so I think you know yes it's like turning my hobby into a business but I thought do you know what I need to earn a bit extra money because things are just getting so expensive and we like our treats we like to socialize don't we Marie?

Hear Me Roar (11:35)

We do Sarah, in fact we've got a cocktail day coming up haven't we darling? ⁓

Sarah (11:39)

We have

yes, yes. And I do love to travel as well. It's my passion is to go on holidays and I work damn hard. If I say so myself, work every hours of the day. I work weekends, I work Sundays. And the reward is when we're sitting on a beach and I'm thinking, God, like I wouldn't have done this if I hadn't set my business up. And it's, know, it is hard. I'll not lie

I've slogged my guts to get to where I am. The hours I've spent on social media, some of my friends go, God, you're never off Facebook, are you? And I go, yes, but that's my business. I've got to be posting things because with that social media, you've got to be posting like every day. I mean, I try and do that, but it's sometimes not possible. So with confidence, I think because I've...

Hear Me Roar (12:17)

in

Sarah (12:31)

being in a customer service role for a long, time and I've dealt with customers and I know how to deal with complaints, if heaven forbid. But I know how to talk to people and if somebody's not sure about a design, I've got the confidence to say, look, how about doing it this way, this way will be better. Sometimes they order icing and I'll go, actually,

the rice paper would be better for this even though it's cheaper but I just think if you do that then the customers are going to come back to you. yeah.

Hear Me Roar (13:06)

Yeah, because you're building up trust then, aren't you?

And you were saying again as well about the social media side of things, a lot of people find, especially kind of maybe our age and older, like 50s and older, can find social media quite intimidating. And that in itself might be a barrier for some people to go out and start the

Sarah (13:10)

Absolutely.

⁓ Definitely,

definitely. I mean I had a bit of a situation getting logged onto here this morning. I had to get my 24 year old son to come and help me because I was talking and nothing was coming out.

Hear Me Roar (13:36)

You did. Yes.

that's never happened before. ⁓

Sarah (13:50)

How rude! rude!

I'm logging off

Hear Me Roar (13:53)

But to be fair, that turned out to be an issue at our end, didn't it? Yeah, that's I was going to say.

Sarah (13:58)

⁓ now you tell us!

if somebody's got like the confidence to set up a business, all I'll say is go for it. You know, I just think like, what have you got to lose if you, you know.

Hear Me Roar (14:07)

Mm-hmm.

Sarah (14:12)

Fair enough if you've got to put some money in to set it up then yes it's different but if you can do something that's you know on a minimal amount and you've got an idea in your head give it a go because you're not too old to give it a go because I set this up I think ee God was I how old was I Marie 44? I think I was 44 and I'm 52 now so I was 44 and I thought at the time oh

Hear Me Roar (14:30)

about 45.

Sarah (14:37)

God, it's like starting something, but then I had the time to do it because my kids are older and they didn't need us as much. Well, that's what you think, but ⁓ yeah.

Hear Me Roar (14:47)

That's what you think. You've now got your kids involved, haven't you? Because when you go away for the weekend or on your holiday,

it's your boys who do all the printing out and the orders, which I think is fantastic.

Sarah (15:01)

they do, they're amazing. I couldn't do it without them. They're absolutely fantastic. They're like boomerangs though, they did leave and then they've come back again so I can't get rid of them. They're still living at home at the moment. But that's to my advantage because if I want to go and do something for the weekend I'll go, can you do the cake toppers while I'm away. And they'll go, ⁓ okay.

Hear Me Roar (15:08)

I'm sorry.

Thank

All right.

you

Sarah (15:25)

But no, they do enjoy it and they are really good at it and it just means that I can have a bit of free time for my sanity.

Hear Me Roar (15:35)

Yeah.

I bet they're also very proud of you. I

think it's important for our kids to see, especially us as older women, I think it's important for them to see us doing something and going out in the world and not being invisible. So that's a great role model and I bet your kids are really proud of you. Yeah.

Sarah (15:48)

I like to hope so.

I won't do the washing for them if they say they're not.

Hear Me Roar (16:05)

⁓ Do you

still do the washing for them? I do, but not very often.

Sarah (16:09)

⁓ my god, well sometimes, sometimes if

I'm in a good mood, if I'm in a bad mood it gets stuck to the bottom of the stairs, it gets stuck, it gets it gets chucked at the bottom of the stairs as a hint that it's there to be done.

Hear Me Roar (16:19)

stuck

I think I must be a terrible mother because I made mine do their own washing from the time they were 16. my son pretended that he didn't know how and we had about 50 washing machine lessons until he realised I was quite serious about this.

Sarah (16:32)

that's a thing.

Thank you.

I refuse to do the ironing though, that's a bit, no I'm not doing that.

Hear Me Roar (16:47)

have you had any cake disasters? That's what we want to know. We're quite nosy.

Sarah (16:55)

I've had several cake disasters, lots of them. I could write a book, but because nobody's perfect you see like the finished cake, all gorgeous, full tiers singing, dancing.

But what people don't realise is that might have been a third attempt. No, I had one for weeks in advance, I had made all these little elephants out of sugar. They were so cute, they were gorgeous. So proud of them. Took me hours.

Hear Me Roar (17:14)

Yeah.

Sarah (17:27)

So I had them all set out and it was a, I think it was a, was it a three tier christening cake. So I'd made the christening cake, spent hours, I mean, you know, for three cakes, takes a lot of doing. So, and all the ingredients as well. So I'd baked all of that and then the lady came, took it away. it was a red hot day as well. You know what's coming, don't you? So it was red hot, very warm day.

Hear Me Roar (17:51)

you

Sarah (17:53)

sugar, butter, icing. So the lady took it away and two minutes later, the doorbell rang with this woman, like, with a horror, horror on her face. And I went, my God, what's happened? And she went, my God, the cake, the cake. So I said, well, what's the matter? went, come and have a look, come and have a look. So she opened the boot and here's the cake.

Hear Me Roar (17:55)

Yeah.

Sarah (18:18)

The cake had just gone like that. All the elephants, the trunks were off, the ears were off. Looked more like hippopotamuses than elephants. And it was, and the christening was the following day. So this was the Saturday evening. She'd picked it up. And I was like, my God. And I mean, she hadn't done anything wrong. She'd, you know.

Hear Me Roar (18:21)

Oh no!

⁓ no!

⁓ no! Elephant carnage! ha ha

Sarah (18:44)

It transported it correctly in the car and everything. And I just felt so sorry for this woman. She was like, what am going to do? I'm like, I don't know what to do. And I went, nor do I It's absolute mess. So anyway, I managed. I said, look, leave it with us. So me being as soft as I am, I did the whole thing from scratch. I baked new cake. I just binned the whole, well, I didn't bin it. I managed to salvage some of it and we had it for our tea the next day.

Hear Me Roar (19:02)

Aw

Ha ha

Sarah (19:10)

But, ⁓ there was so much cake and then my little elephants, I stuck them on with royal icing and I sort of got my little paintbrush and managed to repair them all in, because I couldn't have made them from scratch because they took us hours. So I was up till about two in the morning redoing this cake and I could have just, well I did, I just cried because I thought, ⁓ my God.

Hear Me Roar (19:35)

Alright.

Sarah (19:35)

I

was shattered after making the first one and then, yeah, never. Yeah, but it was all doweled, it had all the dowels and everything and it was just, it must have just had ⁓ an air bubble in it or something and it just went. Yeah.

Hear Me Roar (19:40)

So it just collapsed in the heat. Yeah.

⁓ no,

nightmare. You must have had the opposite. You must have done some cakes that you thought, well, that's particularly fabulous.

Sarah (20:02)

haven't done many wedding cakes. I've done, I think, four wedding cakes in total. Because I've just, after the disaster with the christening cake, I've just, it's too stressful. ⁓ And hats off to women and men and people who do wedding cakes because it is damn hard work. And the amount of work that goes into those is unbelievable. ⁓

But I think the most favourite one was I did a replica of my mum and dad's wedding cake. So for the diamond wedding, I made a 4 tier wedding cake. It was just for the family, so two of the tiers were dummy cakes, because I thought, God, we like cake, but we'll never eat all that cake. ⁓ And it was a complete surprise. So I had a little do at home, and my mum and dad walked in, and their wedding cake was on the table.

Hear Me Roar (20:33)

⁓

Sarah (20:56)

Hahaha!

Hear Me Roar (20:57)

⁓

that's so nice. Yeah. And you'd even managed to sort the topper from the, that was identical, wasn't it?

Sarah (21:00)

Yay.

I did,

yeah. So when you think how long ago it was, I mean, they'd been married 64, they've just had their 64th wedding anniversary. So this was like four years ago. They had the telegram off the Queen. So they had that on the table and then they had this wedding cake. But the topper was it was like a plastic topper, like a vase with little flowers coming down from it. I was gonna make it out of sugar, but I was

Hear Me Roar (21:12)

Wow

Sarah (21:32)

really struggling with how do I get it exact. And then I just went on eBay and just put in like vintage cake toppers in the northeast. And I couldn't believe it. came up with a practically an identical one with a woman who lived in North Shields. So I contacted her and she said it was on a cake from around about that time.

Hear Me Roar (21:41)

Thank you.

Sarah (21:56)

So I was really pleased that I managed to find like a practically identical one,

Hear Me Roar (21:59)

Yeah. Fab. But you say

your business is mainly cake toppers now, but you also have you have a lot of small customers like us, but you also have a lot of big customers as well, don't you?

Sarah (22:13)

You

I do now, yeah, so it's just grown and grown and grown. And I think as well just from the social media and just by posting things that I do, If we're out and about, we'll try and take photographs of cocktails and things like that. ⁓ But...

Hear Me Roar (22:34)

ha ha

Sarah (22:36)

We've got contacted by a restaurant in London and they wanted to try them out and they absolutely loved them. And because as well, cocktail garnishes can be quite expensive. So if you're using like fresh fruit, you've got to use it quite quickly because it obviously doesn't last a long time. So this is a good alternative to use on a cocktail and it's cheap as well. So this restaurant uses them for their cocktails.

but they're also a vegan restaurant so our cocktail toppers are gluten-free vegan they've got no allergens in them and they absolutely love them so we supply to all of the restaurants all throughout London I think they've got like 10 restaurants next so that's really good yeah yeah ⁓

Hear Me Roar (23:21)

that's amazing

So what's the largest order you've ever had?

Sarah (23:26)

⁓

had ones where we've been asked to do like 10,000, 10,000 toppers 10,000, yeah.

Hear Me Roar (23:35)

10,000. 10,000. you. Must have had a

room full of cake toppers. Wow.

Sarah (23:41)

Yeah we did! We were all

sat, all sat cutting, because they're all cut out by hand you know, we don't have a machine. Yeah so we all sat there cutting these darn [indistinguishable noise]

Hear Me Roar (23:48)

No.

Ha ha

Sarah (23:55)

No, it's good. It's good fun. Yeah.

Hear Me Roar (23:57)

Do you employ

people now then? It's family business.

Sarah (24:00)

No. It's just me.

My ⁓ husband helps a lot. been married a long time, so if he doesn't do as he's told...

Hear Me Roar (24:11)

I'll

gets short shrift

Sarah (24:14)

Yeah,

he doesn't get his tea on the table.

Hear Me Roar (24:16)

⁓ Well you certainly haven't lost confidence have you? you've really kind of kept pushing and pushing and pushing and you've conquered the technology and all the rest of it. a lot of women as we certainly as we go into the menopause can

Sarah (24:30)

Well, kind of.

Hear Me Roar (24:38)

lose that confidence and it's kind of sometimes you can struggle to keep it and you're I mean obviously I know you and you're a very confident person and that sort of outlook on life has obviously helped you to push this business forward.

Sarah (24:44)

Mm hmm

Mm-hmm. definitely. It does get harder as you get older. You haven't got as much energy. Your brain goes with, obviously, know, we get brain fog. I'm always getting that. I'm surprised I've got through this, actually, this podcast without forgetting what I'm saying. I'll be talking about one thing and then I'll go oh and then I'll go off on a tangent with something. See, I'm doing it now.

Hear Me Roar (24:57)

Mm-hmm.

Thank

Yeah, I bet you've completely forgotten my question, haven't you? I've forgotten your question as well!

Sarah (25:17)

huh, what was the question?

No, think,

you see, when I set the business up, I wasn't really in the, well, I probably was in the menopause, but not as noticeable. And I just think it does get harder, I'm not going to let it stop us I think like, you know, why should, why should just this time of life, people stop doing things?

Hear Me Roar (25:35)

Hmm.

Sarah (25:49)

I think you should start doing things for yourself. I do think that it can be hard. People have anxiety and that worry, but I think I've got such a good support network from friends, my family, and I've always had that extra sort of push to do stuff. And as well, if I want me holidays.

Hear Me Roar (25:49)

Yeah.

Yeah yeah

Sarah (26:14)

I

think, right, I'm going to do it because I want me holidays. ⁓ But no, seriously, I just think it is harder. ⁓

Hear Me Roar (26:22)

Yeah, it is. But as you

say, surrounding yourself with supportive people, that's something you're always saying, isn't it? Find your tribe, find the people who will Build your cheerleading squad.

Sarah (26:31)

Yes.

Yeah,

and I think being around positive people as well helps because I'm a very positive person and if I'm with someone who's negative and you know moaning and groaning a bit and you know I'll try and support them but I'm not very good I like to be around positive people.

Hear Me Roar (26:38)

Yeah.

Yeah.

Sarah (26:53)

as you get older, but I'm gonna keep going.

Hear Me Roar (26:55)

It is. Good, so you

should. Right, so. Go on then. I know I'm dying to ask you because we asked you to come up with a cocktail and you said you've got a surprise for us. So what is your cocktail, Sarah?

Sarah (27:08)

Right it's called midlife it's called midlife I c annot it say it now? midlife? god you'd think I'd been on the cocktails wouldn't you? it's called I've written it down got me notebook it's called midlife monkey crisis

Hear Me Roar (27:09)

What's it called?

Do it. Alright.

Midlife monkey crisis? You're gonna have

to explain what's the monkey bit?

Sarah (27:32)

Right it's got amaretto in it. I can't speak with laughing. Right it's got amaretto in it because I like to put amaretto in my tiramisu and my cakes and I love amaretto and then it's got banana liqueur in because I'm a bit bananas.

Hear Me Roar (27:34)

Right?

Yes?

you

You'll notice I'm not arguing against that.

Sarah (27:52)

hence

the monkey and then it's got dark rum in it because I do like a rum and coke don't I Marie?

Hear Me Roar (27:59)

You do.

Sarah (28:00)

and then it's got a bit of cream in.

Hear Me Roar (28:05)

⁓ right.

Sarah (28:06)

right and then a bit of cinnamon because apparently i googled this apparently it helps with joint pain so it's good for that because i've got a dodgy knee at the minute so

Hear Me Roar (28:09)

Alright.

You

I'm so sorry.

Sarah (28:21)

So I

put a dash of that in and hope it will help me knees.

Hear Me Roar (28:25)

Okay, so we're gonna make all these cocktails at some point and we're gonna do it on video. I think this one's gonna ruin us. I think this one will ruin us. It did, just so you Ah, right.

Sarah (28:36)

you shake it about, shake it, it, shake it, so like

so the cream will go you know it'll be a nice frothy one and with a frother and then and then I'll give you a cocktail topper to put on the top of it.

Hear Me Roar (28:42)

Yeah.

with a frog.

Lovely jubbly. Lovely jubbly.

Sarah (28:52)

Lovely, jubbly. You'll all be looking like monkeys by the time we've had a few.

Hear Me Roar (28:53)

Bye!

Yeah, we will.

Thank you so much, Sarah. You've really given us a lot of smiles today. You've been absolutely fantastic to talk to. A great guest. Thank you so much. Thank you. Not at all. Bye. See you soon. Bye.

Sarah (29:04)

⁓

⁓ thanks, thanks for having me.

Bye!

Hear Me Roar (29:18)

If you do want to get any of Sarah's cake toppers or cocktail toppers, her website is www.incredibletoppers.co.uk and she's on Facebook as Incredible Toppers.