Liminal Lounge Mediums: Podcast Episode 5 - Synchronicities

Liminal Lounge Mediums: Episode 5 – Synchronicities

Join hosts Psychic Mediums Carey Kaas, Lorenda Carr, and Michelle Oyler as they explore the magical world of synchronicities — those meaningful moments when the universe seems to be speaking directly to you. This rich conversation covers personal stories of signs from spirit, the psychology behind pattern recognition, soul contracts and past life agreements, and how following synchronicities can radically transform your life. The hosts share their unique perspectives on how the universe communicates, how to ask for and recognize signs, and how synchronicity connects directly to manifestation and your soul's purpose.

Key Topics Discussed:

• Defining synchronicity: cosmic alignment, soul breadcrumbs, and "little winks" from spirit
• Lorenda's perspective: synchronicity as the universe aligning things on your soul's path
• Carrie's take: synchronicity as the "connective tissue" that opens and closes doors
• Michelle on synchronicity vs. coincidence and our connection to universal intelligence
• The psychology of synchronicity: frequency illusion, pattern recognition, and the reticular activating system
• How manifestation and focused intention amplify synchronistic experiences
• Asking spirit for specific signs and symbols — and the stories of when it worked
• The role of soul contracts, pre-birth planning, and past life agreements
• Lorenda's QHHT (Quantum Healing Hypnosis Technique) sessions and clients who weren't following their soul's path
• How synchronicity feels when you're in flow — and how your soul signals when you're not
• The synchronistic story of how the three hosts came together to create this podcast
• Michelle's breathtaking story: selling their Camp Chesterfield home and buying Valerie's house
• Carrie's story: manifesting her husband and her father's final blessing from his deathbed
• Real-time synchronicity: Lorenda's tarot cards confirming the episode's themes before recording

Notable Quotes:

"When the time is right, everything will synchronize."

"You can't make that up."

"Follow the synchronicities, follow those signs, and nine times out of ten, the people that are listening — their lives do change."

"Our inner world shapes our outer world experience."

"Spirit told me to buy a book. I bought the book. A year later it was exactly what I needed."

"Stay in the flow. It's a way easier way to exist."

"Never have I ever more felt like this is exactly where I'm supposed to be."

Connect with Our Hosts:

Carey Kaas – Medium & Mentor
Website: www.careykaas.com
Email: carey.thepsychic@gmail.com

Lorenda Carr
Website: www.lorendacarr.com
Email: spiritualinsightnetwork@gmail.com

Michelle Oyler
Website: www.michelleoylermystic.wordpress.com
Email: mysticmedium7@gmail.com

We'd love to hear from you! Contact us with your questions, feedback, or topics you'd like us to cover in future episodes.

Transcript

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So today we're talking about a really exciting topic. We're talking about synchronicities, and I'm sure you've all experienced moments in your life when a sequence of events or symbols seem to be guiding you. You know, I've heard people talk about seeing the same number repeatedly or hearing the same song everywhere, or how about the times, like when you're thinking about someone and then they call you or text you right after you were just thinking about them, or maybe you've taken a different route on a whim. And then later realized that because you took that different route, you, you were able to, uh, save yourself from being in an, an accident or something, or perhaps the, uh, perfect opportunity appeared exactly when you needed it most synchronicities, they're pretty cool. Um, so what I wanted wanna ask everyone is, you know, there are a lot of ideas out there as to what. What is synchronicity? What does it really mean? So I wanna start by asking Lorenda and Carrie, what are, what are your thoughts on that? What do you think? What is synchronicity, uh, Lorenda, what do you think? I love this topic so much. Um, I, you know, growing up I always thought it was just so weird. You, you hear people say it all the time. It's so weird, you know, like I was thinking about a person and then like you showed up or, you know, the, these funny little quirky things and you know, to me it's just the, the universe kind of aligning things that are supposed to happen. It could be also, if you look at it from a spiritual point of view, it could be. Spirit is putting something in front of you that you need to be aware of. Maybe it's part of your soul's path that you have to some, something had to be those little breadcrumbs. You're like, Ooh, I'm gonna follow that. I'm gonna follow that. It's just, it's just synchronicity to me is the alignment of things that seem to be so random, but they create the perfect path to something that. Is much bigger than ourselves. Yeah, I totally hear that. Carrie, what are your thoughts on that? I love what Lorenda just said. I, I really do feel as though synchronicity is the behind the scenes, the, the elastic, the connective tissue of what really opens doors, closes doors, gives us indication about next steps. And also when we start getting in flow. With the alignment of what synchronicity offers we're in alignment with spirit. Mm-hmm. And we can also then learn so much about ourselves when possibly things aren't flowing in a certain way. I feel like it's little signs and symbols that are like little bread, like Lorena said, breadcrumbs or roadmaps or indications of what we need to know in the, on the physical world from the spirit world. Mm. Yeah, I like that. That's beautiful. I love what both of you are saying. You know, I've had people say to me that they think it's really just coincidence. And I think it's much more than that. Like I don't think of it as like these lucky breaks or that things just coincidentally fell into place. I. I, like you guys are saying, I really believe that it's, it's coming from spirit. It's, it's the universe. Like, almost like they're, they're sending messages or whatever. And I, and I think it's it really speaks to the fact that we are all connected to that universal intelligence, that consciousness and that you know. I honestly believe the universe, God, whatever you wanna call that source, I believe is, is constantly trying to work things out for us, constantly trying to communicate with us, constantly responding to who we think we are and how we're vibrating and our frequency and all that. And that's where I, I even think synchronicity. Is, it's, it's the byproduct of our manifestation power, right? And we can get into that a little bit later. But, you know, I guess to answer the, the question simply, you know, what do I personally think about synchronicity? Um, I think of it as, as the universe responding to who we think we are, responding to our frequency. And it's like, it's the universe, our guides, source, whatever you want to, however you wanna look at that, communicating or responding to what we are communicating or signaling, if you will. That's, that's how I see it. Which makes me think of, you know, I also think there are different kinds of synchronicity, if you will. Some are bigger than others. Like some I would just call like little winks from spirit. Like, you know, your guide is near, or you know, your loved one is near because some, something falls into your path. You know, like, I call this like a, a, like I said, like a little wink, if you will. And I wondered if you, if you all have, a personal story. I love personal stories, like a little story of a time when something like that happened where you just know, oh yeah. I love always, always. So one of my one of the things I'll actually encourage my students and or even clients who are grieving, I encourage them to get the book called Signs by Dr. Laura Lynn Jackson. Because it talks about. You know, getting signs from your loved ones. Well, at one point I even, and I think I've told this story on another one of our podcasts, at one point I had said, okay, spirit, show me some signs. Show me some signs. Help me understand what I'm supposed to to do and show me oranges. Mm-hmm. I tell you what, I saw oranges everywhere. Mm-hmm. And now. A couple years later. Every once in a while, if I'm having a weird day or if I'm having you know, and I'm not really sure what to do, I will see out of nowhere completely outta context. Completely. Not like I'm thinking about Florida kind of thing, you know? Yeah. All of a sudden someone will walk up with a shirt that has oranges on it. Yeah. Into that moment. I just go, what? I see you spirit. Huh? I see you. Okay. Okay. I see you. And or if I'm asking, you know, what, what should I do? I'm not really sure what I should do in a specific situation, then they might show me oranges. And and by the way, the reason I said that about the book is there's a whole chapter on specifically oranges, uhhuh, and, and so that's why that book was put into my path. And then going forward that. That became very symbolic for me. Mm-hmm. And, and that's happened with a few other things too. Um, I, I, I look at there, there's another podcast I've been listening to that people have been telling me for a year and a half to listen to this podcast. And I kept forgetting. I kept forgetting. I kept forgetting. And then I finally one day pops into my head, you should listen to this podcast. And I thought. I'm gonna listen to this podcast. I pull it up, I start listening. It's mind blowing, life altering for me. From that point on though, for the next three weeks, everybody I encounter, whether it's clients, whether it's uh, people in conversation. I'm, there's something relevant from those, from those, that podcast that I was able to incorporate into ation. Wow. Had I listened to him two years ago, case Wow. You know? Yeah. So I look at it as I, I've learned just to go, okay. Yep. Spirit told me to buy a book. Um, right, but I don't necessarily feel connected to that book right now, but I bought the book and then a year later, maybe I pick it up and all of a sudden it's relevant in that moment. Like, spirit universe, what? Right. However you wanna see it, however you wanna label it, brought it into my awareness and just the right time. Yeah. Yeah. You can't make it up. You can't make that up. Absolutely. Yeah. Carrie, what? Well, I, I love that story. I have a lot of stories, but the one that just popped into my mind, I also tend to really say to my guides or to spirit, please, I'm having a tough time right now. Can you give me a specific sign? And the one I just thought of is. One of my primary guides, I asked her to show me an owl, and it was, I think last November when this happened and it was cold and wet outside. And um, I was not in the mood to take the dog out for a walk, but I heard within me, you need to take the dog out for a walk. Sometimes I let the dog out in the backyard, but I, but this had to be a walk. So I said to my husband, get your coat on. We're going out for a walk. Took the dog out. I walked no more than a block and on the street above mine, I heard the loudest owl. It was the loudest. It was. It was, it's not just seeing an owl. It was so loud. I, I, oh, I felt like I had to run and find where it was. Wow. And it kept. Hooting and hooting and hooting, and it was just one of those moments I went, thank you so much, because that was almost as close as it could be to a physical experience of it showing up literally right door knocking on and asking, and, you know, bringing me something in the mail. It was the delivered in my own neighborhood. So it was, it was how I needed it to be exactly. Wow, that's so amazing. Amazing. Right? Okay, so I, I have a crazy story. And it, oh my gosh. Okay. So in my family, right before someone gets ready to make their transition, we always decide it providing we have time to talk to the person, right? You know, and we, you know, we know that the time is close or whatever. We'll work out a symbol, you know, what's gonna be your symbol? When you're in spirit that we'll know you're near. Okay. And my, uh, my wife Laura, her dad just passed away, not just about a year ago now, and on the day after. So we, we hadn't even had the funeral or anything yet. She and I were sitting out on our front porch. And she looked at me and she looked really sad and she said, I forgot to ask Dad what his symbol is going to be. And I said, okay, okay, well let's work on this. We can figure this out. Right? And so we're like, well, you know, what things does he like? Well, he likes music, but nothing, nothing really fit. And then we're like, well, he likes tools. And you know, we're like, well, what? Like a hammer? No, that doesn't feel right. You know? And they, we were like, well, he loves food. He loves food. He and like he was a really great cook and all that, we're like, but which food? Like he loves all food. Like, which one would it be? I kid you not Right at that moment we're out on our front porch. Our outside cat hank the tank and it was, it was trash day. It was trash day. It hank the tank comes running up to the door of this, of the screened in porch and we went and let him in. And he was carrying half a bag of marshmallows, and we were like, right. He loves s'mores, he loves getting the family around the fire pit and making s'mores. That's his symbol. Now, come on, you can't make that up. Right. Marshmallows in particular, I mean, that wasn't like a bag of chicken, right? It was like the cat. The cat was carrying it. Oh my gosh. We just finished the sentence. And there he was with the marshmallows. You just, I know people will say that's just coincidence, right? I, I don't, I don't think it is, I don't think that is coincidence. There. There's more to it. I, I think of those as like just a, a little wink, you know, like, Hey, yeah, we're here. We're hearing you, we're listening to you, you know. Also, if I may share one more quick story. Of course. This is, so far, this is so crazy to me. And this, this starts like, we have to go back about 20 some years ago, but my Aunt Sandy, who is my mom's sister, she had a really, she has a very good friend. Her name is Valerie. She lives in Indianapolis, and she and my aunt, we get together for lunch. Probably once a once a month at Valerie's house. Okay. And they were getting ready to schedule their next, get together their next lunch. And Valerie out of the blue, she doesn't know my mom, but she insisted. She said, you have to invite your sister. I want, I want Shirley to come with you next time. So Sandy and Shirley, my mom and aunt went to Valerie's house. And they had the best time. And it became this thing where like once a month, the three of them would get together. They'd laugh and tell stories and sometimes like they would actually kind of counsel each other through things, you know, like we girls will do to help each other. And this one particular time, Valerie was very upset. It was a, it was a mom thing, right? And my mom had had the same experience. And so long story short, my mom wrote her. A letter and sent it to her. I found out maybe, uh, not quite even two years ago that Valerie has carried that letter in her purse for 20 some years and that that chance meeting. She just by chance, right by chance in quotes here, invited my mom to come over. It helped her so much that it changed the course of her life and it changed relationships in her life for the better. So again, like. What makes us do, or, or, or send an invitation to someone or meet someone for the first time, and then they, it turns out that they're so important and it's so meaningful to me. That's beyond coincidence, you know? Absolutely. Um, yeah, and you know, I'm, this may be a good time to kind of talk about this, but you know, we can talk about the fact that there's psychology in this. Right. You know, some people will say, well, it's just psychology. It's just the, the brain is wired to detect. Patterns, right? Like there's actually a term athenia, I think it is, you know, where we perceive meaningful connections between unrelated things, right? So it's kind of like. The, the same brain that protects us from predators is also looking for cosmic meaning, if you will, or looking for, for connections. And, and I'm not denying that that's not there, or, or like, in, in psychology they talk about frequency, illusion that, you know, once something enters your awareness, then you see it everywhere. Kind of like, like if you buy a blue car, and I would just get ready to say that if you buy a car and then you see'em everywhere, you know, I, I'm not saying that that isn't probably true, that there isn't some truth to that, you know? Um, you know how like. Uh, synchronicities, they seem to, they kind of show up more when something's really on your mind. Like if, if, for example, and this kind of goes along with the manifestation thing, like if we're focused on the idea that we don't have enough money, let's say, and that's all we're thinking about, well, the law of attraction, we'll basically. Give us more of what we're focused on. And so we just stay in this cycle of not having enough money. But if we focused on, you know, feeling as though I have enough, I'm grateful for everything I have, then, you know, our attention, it's like, it's the spotlight, if you will. And then suddenly everything synchronizes and we have enough. Right. So I don't know, like on a, on a biological level, I guess we could say. Our brain is constantly filtering Reality is that's what it's made to do. There's even the the, what is it? It is like reticular activating system. I always think of it as RAS. Mm-hmm. And it's, you know, the, the brain's job is to decide what gets our attention. You know, we have, so there's so much out here for to, to to look at and to consider. And so the brain is constantly deciding which thing is really your priority, which thing do you need to be paying attention to, that sort of thing. And it's, it's based on our emotions and, and or frequency and that sort of thing. So this is kind of where I feel like synchronicities happen. Um. Because this kind of goes along with what Carrie said earlier, it's like this alignment between what we're focused on or what we're feeling, what we're thinking about, and therefore that's what the brain allows us to notice. It's almost like our inner world shapes our outer world experience, if you will. And you know, that's, you know, the law of correspondence and, and our attention becomes, it becomes very clear and there's this clear correlation between synchronicity and what we're focusing on and what we end up manifesting and all that. I believe there's truth to all that, and then I also believe that there is definitely moments when it's simply separate from what we're thinking. Spirit or our guides send us a message conscious, whatever. Yeah. Right. Absolutely. So, um, nda, you are like, you are our expert on, on like, the concept of of past life, uh, regression and so forth. And I've heard that some synchronicity can pertain to like pre-birth planning and so agreements and that sort of thing. Do you mind like. Sharing some of your amazing wisdom on that with us. Oh, I would love to. So, actually when you were sitting here talking about, you know, whether it's in our brain or those things, I've actually had clients come for QHHT, you know, the past life regression for those of you don't know, that is quantum hypnosis healing, uh, technique that by Dolores Canon. I'm a certified practitioner and so people will come to me for hypnosis and past life regression, and I've had. People come and say, I don't really necessarily believe that this is past life, by the way. And my response is, it doesn't matter whether it's your brain showing you, whether it's God showing you, whether it's the angels showing you, whether it's a, an alien, it doesn't matter, right? What It doesn't matter where the information's coming from. Let's just get down to it. What are you hoping to get out of your session and your time here? It doesn't matter the belief set, it doesn't matter where you think it came from. So if we go from that point of view, it's, it's whatever our subconscious is going to tell us that we need to know. Mm-hmm. And either relate, give us examples of relating to, or what so, you know, what if I was a bad person in, in a past life, or what is my, what is my brain trying to show me? Right to get me to get on a better path or to get me to do what I need to do. What is it's trying to tell me now. I'm sitting there knowing that I speak to, to, to the dead people regularly going, you know what? You believe what you need to, we're gonna get to the bottom of this. Right? It helps me understand where we're coming from, though it helps me navigate, right? The word use the words, and then I look at my guides and go, okay, Dr. Mike, what are we do? Got it. Good. Here we go. We're we're good. So now we know how to tap in. Anyway, I find that whether you, when we're talking about. Past life, birth plans, soul contracts, all of that. Those are first and foremost semantics and labels. I, I do believe that. And going back to the podcast I was talking about earlier, that's just mind blowing and blew up a whole new perspective for me in all of this is I'm, I'm looking at things as something or someone somewhere wants to learn. Hmm. So we are created, we are the manifestation of someone or something, or someone wanting right to learn. So here we are. What if we are a manifestation of somebody else? Mm-hmm. Let that sit for a second. Right. Okay. So let's just, we'll take it down to a smaller, more digestible scale. I have a higher self. Okay. We all have a higher self. It's our bigger soul, our over soul sub, whatever you wanna call it. Dolores Canon called it a subconscious because of the 1960s, seventies and eighties. That was easier to digest. Mm-hmm. Calling subconscious. Now, I think now we're a little more woo with these days. We've got our higher, higher self is what I, I like to call it. This is my over soul. Well, I may have 10 other lives happening all at once. Right. I could be literally in the future right now. Mm-hmm. This time is linear. No matter what, whether I'm in the 18 hundreds, the 26 hundreds, the present, my higher self has decided for whatever reason it needs to learn certain lessons in this timeline with these people. Maybe our souls come together somehow some way and decide on the other side what it is they want to continue learning. Mm-hmm. And I, I think there's so many things that we don't understand and that's okay. But we come together for whatever reason and decide we're gonna incarnate right now. We're gonna come into this life right now, and there are certain things that you need to learn. Here's your checklist. Alright? And your team of guides is how I've been shown. Go. Okay, we're all in. Listen, this is my, this is my job, this is my job, this is my job. And I'm gonna, we're gonna do our best to give you a trail to follow. To get you on the right path. Now we still have the discernment and the free will to be like, but what if I don't listen to the GPS and drive over here instead, and then we end up in a pond? I don't know. And then confuse why we're in the pond. Yeah. But suddenly we learned to swim, so it's all fine. Um, right. You know, I, I believe that things happen because we have a checklist of things that we want to do. There may be. Residual effects from other lifetimes. Maybe we were like, wow, really screwed up that one over there. Let's try again. Let's, I didn't, I'd, oh yeah. Remember that time in that lifetime I ended up in the pond'cause I wasn't listening to the GPS. Right? So how about we try it over again? Or maybe you were like, Hey, you know, I was the bad guy in your, in your dr. Your life over there. Let's switch whatever. We're coming in to learn certain things. And so. Our team, our guides, collective conscious, higher self, what all that is, again, irrelevant in my opinion. All that information comes in and is aligning us with the path that we chose to come in with whatever my, this incarnation decided that needed to learn what, you know, Lorenda Carr decided before coming in that this is what I needed to learn. And so whether it's spirit team, no matter who it is. I'm being led with the breadcrumbs to follow a certain path. Who knew 40 years ago I'd be sitting here doing this Yeah. Talking about this and, and never have I ever more felt like this is exactly where I'm supposed to be. Mm-hmm. And we, you know, by the way, if we don't follow those synchronicities. Our soul knows we feel blocked. We feel uneasy. And I get that a lot in those QHHT sessions. Um, people will say, I'm stuck. I, I have these physical problems. I can't do anything. I can't, I, I don't know where to go. So through the process of the hypnosis, we see, oh, well, guess what? You're not doing what your soul aligned was aligned to do. You're not listening to the synchronicities, you're ignoring these signs. So let's do a little reset. Go a different direction. Here's your in here, set your intentions. Here's your new path. Follow the new path and let's see how it goes. Yeah, follow the synchronicities, follow those signs, and, and nine times outta 10, the, the people that are listening their lives do change. Not because I did some magic woo on them, but because they're following the synchronicities. They're following the signs that they are receiving instead of going, well, I just made that up in my head because that's what I want. Sister, you didn't make it up in your head. That was the collective conscious showing you your team, showing you your higher self, showing you, Hey, remember that time you signed up to do something. You're not doing it. It's not your imagination. Get out of your own way. Follow the signs, follow synchronicities, and you're gonna be in alignment. Hmm. Like stay in the flow. Yeah. Stay in the flow. Stay in the flow. By the way, that's a way easier to way to exist. It really is. It is. I find I need a lot less therapy now. Right. I mean, you know that Seriously, and that's the part of manifesting I think so many people forget is the final part, which is just surrender it. You know, why is it that we, we, we try to manifest something and we have this one single idea out of the infinite possibilities, and then we keep trying to force it in place instead of just, just allow the universe to unfold things for you. Will there be challenges? Sure. Because that's part of it, right? But eventually you get to where you're supposed to be and when you get there, it feels so good. Yeah. That like this podcast feels so good. Yes. Yeah. I know. Even if we're the only three that ever listened to it. It just feels so aligned and so good. It does. It does. Yeah. It really does. It does. Plus we just like hanging out and talking. I know. And we'll never, we'll have all these wonderful memories. I tell my kids I record everything, not because I'm, I'm self-centered and like be on camera. I mean, I might be, but that's my big Leo energy. But also when I'm gone. When I'm gone and you're sad, you're going to watch every one of these, you're gonna listen to every one of these.'cause every time you miss me. I will have left a trail for you, so, Aw, you're welcome. Kids love much from the grave. Maybe in 50 years. Yeah. Haunting you. Hundred percent. I thought was literally a shout out for my kids when I'm dead. Is that bad? No. Your synchronicity kids. Exactly. It time. Look it up. It's Googleable. There it is. They'll be looking for a sign from mom. Absolutely. And we'd love to have a sign from Mom. Just listen to this old liminal lounge mediums podcast. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Aw, where your sign, Carrie? What are your thoughts on all that? Wow. Well, I'm right there with Lorenda, with looking at, you know, connecting with your essence, with your soul, getting that. Consciousness into your daily life, you know, and, and I think that's the work we're all doing as. In our own lives personally, but also with our clients, our students. I feel like I'm helping people every day just kind of get in alignment with that vibration. So, and then working it through possibly too, in the ORIC field, in the chakra system, in how things are wired. For me, when I, uh, work with someone and I can see their blueprint, you know, and I can see where. Almost like the map of the experiences that they're carrying and they wanna shed it and they wanna be able to release it so it's not. Literally stopping them from flowing exactly what you said. And, and for me, that shows up on a, like a very fine level as far as how it can be in their physical body, how it can be in their emotions, how it can be in their psychology. And the, the beautiful part right now on this earth is there are all these amazing tools, techniques, and methods. You can find the one that works for you, that helps you release those things. So, and we're being much more out about it so that people can get the support they need on a spiritual level to be able to embody more of what they came here to do. Oh my gosh, more than ever. I think that's what we're all doing here, is that awakening is happening and that's all part of like turning the wheels so that it's more than ever. I'm sure before, if we had looked in the timeline in the 18 hundreds, people got signs all the time. But could they follow them? Probably not as much. You know, they were much more caught up in rudimentary things or in survival. Um, so these experiences now that we, some of us. If we're fortunate enough can explore these things and follow our bliss and be able to manifest the lives, but I feel like that's what we're all doing is helping turn on the key for everybody to be able to activate these things. That's. Wow. That's, that's so important. Talk about the flow, Carrie. Yes. That was in the flow. It was Wow. Well, Amanda shot it out to third base. Wow. Ladies. That's good stuff, you guys. I love that. So good. Love it, love it, love it. No. So, wow. I think we've covered a lot of really good, really great talk little nuggets here that so good people can sit with. Yeah. So what if we like end with a final synchronicity story? I love hearing stories. I love hearing stories of, especially of synchronicity because there's so magical, you know? Absolutely. Um, who wants to go first? Who has this? You have to go first. Michelle. You want me to go first? Yeah. Okay. Well, okay. All right. I, I'm happy to do that. So this is my favorite synchronicity story. I love this story. It is crazy. It's so crazy. I know the story. It made me a believer in the power of manifesting, and it made me a believer in synchronicity, hon, honestly. Um. Okay, so about, uh, it's been about two years ago now, which is hard to believe, but for about two years ago my wife Laura and I, we, we experienced what I would say was undeniable divine synchronicity. And in fact it's been rather breathtaking for me personally, to be honest. But, so about two years ago, we were living on the grounds at Camp Chesterfield and, um. We loved, we loved our home there. We loved the people there. We didn't really want to move from there. But, uh, Laura had just taken a job in Indianapolis and the drive was brutal. It just wasn't good. So we knew we had to move. We needed to move closer to her work. We needed to move to Indianapolis, which on a side note, Lorenda Hoyt Robinette, he told us that. 10 years ago that we would one day move to Indianapolis. Isn't that weird? That's crazy. Isn't that weird? At the time we were like, you know, he's a great medium, but I don't think he's right on that one. Yeah. And here we're right. Anyway, okay. So I sidetracked. So, you know, you know, for any of us, when you're making a decision to uproot your life and like, and, and move to a new city, it's not easy. Right? And it, it, especially when you're leaving a house. A home where you really love it and like we loved being on the grounds there and we didn't really want to leave our house. But we knew it was in our best interest. And to be honest, in that situation, we felt powerless to make it happen because the, the specifics surrounding. A little unusual. Like at Camp Chesterfield, you don't own the land, so you can't get a mortgage on the house. So you have to find someone who can pay you cash for the house, which that's not easy to come by. And then you have to find someone. It can't just be anyone who can, who's allowed to buy a house at camp. It has to be someone who is like, either a certified medium or healer, and they have to be approved by the board. And it can literally take. Years to sell a house at Camp Chesterfield. And we really felt like for, you know, Laura's wellbeing, this needed to happen asap. Right. But it felt so impossible and I really needed some answers. And, and I'm all about the manifesting and I was, you know, doing my manifesting, I was saying it is so believing. It was so feeling it all the things and it just. It still seemed impossible. So, um, on the grounds of camp, are these beautiful woods? And if you walk out in the middle of those woods, you just feel like you're all alone. And I was, I walked out there and I could feel like, you know, the nature and the, the trees and the elementals were all around me. And I started praying, literally like talking to the universe. And I was like, what do we do? Like, how are we gonna make this happen? First of all, how will we ever find a buyer for. For the camphouse and, and then, you know, that's not easy. And then if we do find a buyer, then how do we find a neighborhood that's right for us? Will we feel safe? Will we be happy? Or can we even financially do this? You know, the, all these things, like I was totally spiraling and as soon as I opened my heart and just put that question out there for, you know, for spirit and source and my guides and all that, I kid you not, I heard a voice. And this voice said to me, and I'm pretty sure it was a guide, although I feel like I've never heard this voice before, but this voice said, relax, when the time is right, everything will synchronize. Like I heard those words. And so, um, as difficult as it was in that moment, I surrendered it and I said, okay, okay. I get it. I surrender. Fine. Whatever's for our highest and best, so be it. I heard those words on a Monday or Tuesday, I think it was. And that weekend I was working the, uh, psychic fair at camp and a woman sat down across from me to get a reading and she said, hi. I'd really like to introduce myself. I used to live on the grounds at camp. Turned out she lived in the house across the street from us and my husband and I are looking to come back to camp. I'm not kidding. Long story short. They ended up buying our house. I couldn't believe it. And it more synchronicity. They had the cash to pay the cash. So now we had the money to move. Right? And so we start looking for houses in, in Indianapolis, and we found this house. Like I knew immediately when I saw it, I was like, Laura, this is our house. We have, I don't know what's, you know, my, every, every psychic feeling in my body is saying, we're supposed to move here. And even that had synchronicities. Like the re the way we ended up getting the house was crazy. But we get there and we move in and, and when we first moved in, you know, like with anything you manifest, you have to be willing to work at it. You gotta, you know, there are gonna be some challenges or whatever. And the house needed some renovations and, and the yard was a total mess. It was like a, a jungle. And there were all these overgrown flower beds and stuff. We were out in the flower beds one day. We had just moved in and we're like weeding the flower beds and sweating and working really hard and saying, we love this house. We love this house. And one of the neighbors came over and started talking to us and asked us, well, you know, how, how do you, how do you like your new home? And you know, we love it. And he said, now I know these flower beds don't look real great right now. But you know, two owners ago. Um, the woman who lived here, she was a master gardener and, um, her name was Valerie and, and she worked at, she and her husband worked at, and like the same place my aunt worked at. Right. And we were like, are you. You've gotta be kidding me. I was like, you've gotta be kidding me. I said, Laura, we bought Valerie's house. And she's like, oh my God. And so we called my aunt right then, right there. It was like, excuse us, we gotta make a phone call and we call my Aunt Sandy, who's still here on the earth plane. We said, aunt Sandy, we just bought your friend Valerie's house. And she said, oh, wow. I thought those pictures looked familiar, you know? And I said, do you still talk to her? She said, yeah, I'm gonna see her tomorrow for lunch. Now what? Come on. Right, come on. Wow. So, yeah, this is crazy, crazy synchronicity since that moment. So since that moment, we invited Valerie and her husband Murray, and my aunt that came over for dinner. When Valerie walked in the door, she started crying and she opened up her purse and she pulled out a letter. And she said, now I made a photocopy of this, but I want you to have the original. And it was that letter my mom had written to her 20 some years ago. And there it was in her handwriting. She's in spirit now. There it was in my mom's handwriting, addressed to our new home. And I think for me, I mean the whole thing, obviously synchronized, but the serendipitous part of it. Is knowing that in this new home, my mom has laughed and shared stories and had a great time. She's been in all the flower beds and been in every room in the house, and it's like her loving light still remain here. Like, how can, I couldn't have asked for anything better than that. You know? Your mom got in that house. Yes. Your mom, she wanted us to have that house behind the scenes. Absolutely. She did. Absolutely. She did. Wow. So how about the two of you? What, what final stories do you have to share? Okay. All right. Listen, I'm, I gotta, I have to do a sidebar. So before we, before we signed on, before we hit record a little bit ago, I was, you saw me shuffling cards. I don't normally do that before. Before. Mm-hmm. But I was like, all right, spirit, what do we need to know? I'm gonna, and we're gonna be able to go back and confirm this, and you'll see me kind of go, yeah. Now I, I laid the card up. Yes. You said spiral. You said I would go spiral. That was the card that was sitting up, up top. Oh my gosh. The spiral. Five seconds later, he said, we need to just relax, relax circle. That was, that was the next one. I'm like, oh, okay. Game on. What's next? And sanctuary. Oh. I had goosebumps. That's a mic drop. I don't need to tell a story. Oh my God. No, honestly, like, seriously that, that that to me, in real time. That to me was like, okay, that was a synchronicity, that was a postcard, that was a god wink, that was spirit's way of confirming for me, you know, this is all, this is all in alignment. Mm-hmm. Um, and just, just, you know, we've told in previous stories in our intro of how the three of us even met. That in and of itself is my, one of my favorite synchronistic stories of, and of, of life altering. Yeah. This has been life altering because Yeah. I am in my dance world. I'm in my whole tap dance world. I'm neck deep in it, not even thinking I just did tarot cards and I was doing stuff on the side not knowing what to do. Then Laura wonders into my world, right? And then that very first day I meet her, like all of a sudden she's like, Hey, we. We live at Camp Chesterfield. I'm like, oh my gosh, I've heard of that place. I've always wanted to go. Never could. Yeah. What? And then now, then you meet, then you introduce me to my mentor, and then now I'm doing like all the social media for like I am neck deep in the Camp Chester field world now. Yeah. But the synchronicities that all had to align to and then, then also looking at the story with Carrie and I. The friend that brought us together, Carrie and I were not on each other's radars in any way, shape or form. Yeah. Even though we were in the same world doing the same thing. I had never seen her before this person. And as soon as Carrie and I clicked, it's like Spirit said, okay, cool. And that other person's no longer on our radar anywhere to seen. Wow. And, and it was so crazy. So to me, my fav, again, my favorite synchronicity story is just. How the three of us Right. Have come together. And now Yes. Now I'm even more excited to see what comes of this. Right? Yeah. What comes from the, who else is gonna be in alignment with us. Mm-hmm. And, you know, we're still manifesting the private jets to get us on Right. So that we can go see you. Yeah. So we can go see everyone. Yeah. See all the people that are in and listening so that I'm, I'm waiting on that to sync up. We're just, it's mm-hmm. You know, we're getting there. But that, that's probably my favorite synchronicity story is just, gosh, here, how we are here. Mm-hmm. Why we are here in the liminal lounge. And even now with the, with the whole meaning of liminal and, and where we are, it's like right now we are doing this thing to hold the space. We're in between the next, between what, how we got here. And where we're going next. So even now, in real time, this is our liminal space. And when I was judging at a dance competition this weekend, I had a moment where I thought of you guys and I had like the whoosh, I had the whoosh uhhuh because I'm judging. It's the best gig ever. Someone hands me a microphone, let's me talk and give my opinion for day, two days straight. One of the songs was called The Space Between, and it was all about. Basically what this is, it's like I'm gonna be waiting for you in the space between and joy, there is relevance in the space between what's then and what's next and, and it was such a great moment, and again, to me it was just a, that little god wink, that little piece of synchronicity that, that makes me realize that we're doing the right thing. Yeah. Yeah. Beautiful. Ugh. I love that. Carrie, any last words? Those are so beautiful. Each of those. I have so many. I have so many with both of you. I have so many with Lorenda, so many moments, and I actually have to refer back further back in time because I feel like my dad's kind of tapping on my shoulder. Yeah. So when I met my husband in 1999. I had been very specific about and done a lot of work on myself personally to be able to then manifest the type of husband or partner, long-term partner I wanted. I was very intentional. I did all the things you mentioned, clear. I worked on myself. I, I cleared out. I got my intention. I felt it, saw it. Wrote down the list, to be honest with you. And so when I met my husband, it was just like that. It was all so synchronistic, even meeting him, how it happened, how it felt, everything that was happening at the same time, my dad was dying of cancer. Oh, and I don't think I've told Lorenda this piece of it, but. He was passing away of cancer. So it was like this, this beauty and this tragedy at the same time of these two things, worlds colliding. My dad was literally, he wanted to pass away at home, which he did. And I had gone on my second date with my husband getting the chills, and I went to my dad laying really, literally, he's on his death pet. And I said. Dad, I met someone really wonderful and he looked at me and like, mind you, he is on morphine. And he said, he's the one, isn't he? And I said, I think he is. And so my dad went to his grave knowing that I'd met my soulmate. I mean, I think that that was really, I said, I told my husband that the other day actually. Is that the synchronicity of that happening, like how it happened before my dad passed and you know, the whole of I'm having all this beauty happen at the same time of losing him. And it was just a lot of big themes. So I was very, and I feel like when you have those beautiful, those beautiful family members in the spirit world, they're showing up for you in all these beautiful ways, which continues to happen. Yeah. Very grateful for that. That's so beautiful. What a grateful story. Yeah. I had not heard that story yet. Yeah. That part I had never, I can't believe I told you I hadn't heard any of that yet. No. Wow. That's fun. Yeah. That's beautiful. Yeah. That's beautiful. Well, I feel like we've kind of come to the. The close of the se the segment. Right? Amazing. Yes. Yeah. That's fun. Amazing, amazing one. I can't wait for what's gonna, what The next ones we can talk about right on these podcasts are amazing. Absolutely. Yeah. So, well as always, you know, we appreciate everyone that's listening. We are so excited that you're part of this dream come true that we've manifested. Please join us, be part of our community and we look forward to the next time. Yay. Thank you everybody. Take care everybody.