Black Culture and Traditions

Black culture traditions are rooted in resilience, community, and joy, featuring deeply held practices like Sunday dinners, family reunions, and soul food. Key cultural staples include celebrating Kwanzaa and Juneteenth, playing Spades, vibrant church culture, and honoring elders. These traditions pass down history and strengthen communal bonds.

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Just just just with the traditions in the black culture. In the black culture? In the tradition. That's a little segue. Craig, what are we talking about today, brother?

SPEAKER_03 2:00

Today, it's a it's a it's a uh a topic that's near and dear to my heart. Oh, really? Yes. Why is it near and dear to your heart, my brother? Because I was raised up in it. You were raised up in it. Our topic today is black culture and traditions.

SPEAKER_02 2:18

Uh-oh. Don't cancel us, don't cancel this. All my Caucasian people hanging there. Hanging there. This this could be an education, like the encyclopedia book you're about to get.

SPEAKER_03 2:28

This is the cliff notes. Because we want y'all to join us. We want y'all to be part of the traditions.

SPEAKER_02 2:33

Yes. It's not to exclude you. It's it's to give you an opportunity to understand some of the black culture and traditions.

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And why we do what we do.

SPEAKER_02 2:45

And why we need to stop doing what it is. You know, taste to the tank. Some stuff we need to keep doing, some stuff we need to stop doing.

SPEAKER_03 2:53

Go ahead, Craig, what you got, man? Oh man. You know, um, we go, I want to start off like one of my favorites growing up as a child is uh the Sunday dinners. You know, um in my household, there was a saying put out by Betty Jean. If you can get up and do everything else during the week, you can get up and go to church on Sunday. Yeah, not just go to church, you're gonna be there on time.

SPEAKER_02 3:29

Did she make y'all go to Sunday school or was this just uh the church service or or what?

SPEAKER_03 3:36

Man, Betty Jean had you there way before Sunday school. It was a it was always a race between her and her sister. Who's gonna be the first one at church? See, my mama had a key and my and my aunt did too. So it was it won't go it wasn't whether you're gonna be there for Sunday school. It was whether who's gonna be there turn in time enough to open up the church doors.

SPEAKER_02 3:57

No. Well, my parents. My dad was the pastor. Uh oh. So if we didn't show up, we nobody showed up. So I totally get it. So tell me about these Sunday dinners. Now, you know, you got to church in the morning.

SPEAKER_03 4:11

Uh-huh.

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Then what was what happens after that?

SPEAKER_03 4:14

Well, you know. At Betty Jean's house. At Betty Jean's house. My mama can cook. Yeah, yeah. But you know, I don't know if you got the experience grandma's cooking as a child, but it wasn't nothing like grandma's cooking. And so the thing was, if you ever got the chance to go to grandma's house, that's where you wanted to be. Because guaranteed, she cooked other things, but guaranteed, as a side note, or you say as a cliff note, it was always gonna be some chicken wings on the side. Fried chicken wings. It wasn't nothing like grandmama's fried chicken wings.

SPEAKER_02 4:52

Well, you know, it's funny you talk about the tradition of the uh the Sunday dinner. I won't even I hold it though. You hold it. I had to hold that one. Okay, but going back to Sunday dinner, uh what what time was the Sunday dinner? Because you know, at our place, Sunday dinner, when we had the big Sunday dinner, you knew the church got out at a certain amount of time, and within a certain amount of time a church didn't let out, the Sunday dinner was gonna start.

SPEAKER_03 5:23

Yes.

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But you always had that one relative, usually an uncle, they show up when grandma and them and mama now putting the dishes up when the dinner is over with, where everybody done ate good and the itis done set in.

SPEAKER_03 5:40

Not the itis.

SPEAKER_02 5:42

The itis done set in, and then here come that uncle talking about where the plate set.

SPEAKER_03 5:48

Well, the dinner time for where I grew up at was immediately after Sunday, after you got home from church. It wasn't later on in the day. It was ASAP. And typically um, the ladies in our in my family where I grew up at, they were prepped their dinner that Saturday. And so it wasn't, you know, spend a whole lot of time in the kitchen on Sunday after you came home from church. So like um, like I said, my grandmother fried chicken, or even um or my mom didn't fried every Sunday, but if we had fried chicken in my house on Sundays, pretty much everything else was prepped Saturday prior to, so you just have to worry about one thing when you came.

SPEAKER_02 6:28

I think that's one tradition, um, whether it's church related or not, I think that's one tradition that needs to come back is the is the family family down or the because a lot of the big mamas have transitioned. Yes. And a lot of us younger generation that are now in the 40s and 50s, we are supposed to be the next uncles and big mamas.

SPEAKER_03 6:56

Absolutely.

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But I think we have gone away from the family tradition of bringing people together under one roof. Yes. And have by default attached it to the only time we have the family dinner effect is at a repass.

SPEAKER_03 7:17

Yeah. And that's and that's not good. Because at the traditional family uh Sunday dinners, you were educated about the family that was still living and the values of the family. I would say in my household. I can't speak for other people's families. And so um That's how you knew who who was who. Exactly. And and the re and you knew why you had the things that you have now at that time, and the and the sacrifices that people had done for you to have those things. And so now what you just brought out, a lot of you know, our kids take things for granted. Like my grandkids now think they should have their own TV. They think they should have all the snacks that they want to have. Because um, because the generation behind us do not, you know, think, don't see the value for having those type of traditional meals with family. We doing Grubhub or what's the other DoorDash and all that type of stuff.

SPEAKER_02 8:26

Eating separate. But it goes back to, you know, not only the family tradition with the family dinner, since we tapping onto the family's the family topic, it's the family reunions.

SPEAKER_03 8:37

Yeah.

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Now, like when my mom, when my mom was alive and my aunts were alive, they were always, we used to do a family reunion every year. Yep. Where everybody would get together and you knew your cousins and you knew this, that, and the third. But now you go to a family reunion, it's a possibility of being 200 people there, and you know six of them out of the 200. But we used to do them in Greensboro. Okay. Uh at the Corey Center. Okay. We did it a couple of times in Atlanta where we would actually get together, and we had thought about it. My sisters and my cousin, we had thought about trying to do it again this coming summer, going back to the traditional family reunion. And what I mean by the traditional family reunion, we had got fancy with our family reunions where you you pay the fees and the dues and three weeks, three days at the hotel, you get the the suite that everybody, the hospitality room. But we were talking about going back to the point of a family reunion at like a park.

SPEAKER_03 9:44

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_02 9:45

Like old school, but on a farmland. And we think we're gonna crank it back up because everybody wanted the modern amenities. I gotta have a swimming pool, and they want to do it, they want to do it in Atlanta. But you know, in Atlanta, if you're gonna plan a family reunion in the city of Atlanta, it's 2026 now, you might not get out here into 2030. Because the city is always booked up. So we're thinking about going back to some traditional family reunions to where your cousins, the younger cousins, like my daughter age, can know her other cousins outside of the immediate cousins.

SPEAKER_03 10:25

Yeah. It's funny that you mentioned that. Um my mom's dad's side of the family, that family union tradition has been going on since I'm in, I'm 57, about to be 58. Been since I can remember since the age of five. And um Tanya and I have had the opportunity to host family unions here in Atlanta twice. And um, and you're right, you you can book it here in Atlanta, but the the cost is much higher than smaller market cities. But I can remember um, I grew up next door to my great-grandmother, my granddad's uh mom, and up to my senior year in high school, we had family reunions every year, uh hosted at her house and ours since it was next door. And we we didn't collect money for registration. Nobody had no pay, no money for no food. But every year, people come as far as uh New York, Connecticut, all on the East Coast. Some some people from Texas and um a little further west came and showed up every year. And so two houses hosted these family unions. I'm talking about hundreds of people. And the year that she, uh my senior high school, she passed away that spring, and people still came that summer, but it wasn't the same. And then after that, it really tailed off fast.

SPEAKER_02 11:53

And that's that's what happened with our family union. We were we were doing them uh every year. We knew in June or July it was gonna be the family reunion. You look forward to it, and then as you got the teenager kids that got old enough to make their own decisions, they sort of been like, nah, I'm not coming this year. Yeah. Because they wanted to do their own thing. But I think that's a tradition you we should got, we definitely got to get back to not just my family, but people as a whole, having some form because life is life is snapping through.

SPEAKER_03 12:25

Yeah.

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And with the older generation that knows the history of the family, somebody should be recording that history somehow.

SPEAKER_03 12:32

And my that side of that part of my family, we have record books, we have photos um um documented back to people that lived to the age of a hundred over a hundred. We we kept records, so we do have that there, but my daughter back, they don't they don't know any information because they're not interested in being a part of that. They don't come to the family unions. They don't know any of that stuff.

SPEAKER_02 12:59

And then too, but now then you got some of the older folk that don't want some of the family history to come out.

SPEAKER_03 13:05

No, it won't come out, or they don't want to release it to the younger generation to start leading that. Right. And uh right now, um, I'm part of the leadership on that family who's uh who's um leading the family to the next to the next generation, myself and other cousins that's around you know in the same age break as me, who are who the elders has released those leadership responsibilities for us to make the decision on um leading our family to the next day.

SPEAKER_02 13:35

But but speaking of uh Sunday dinner's a thing, something that we gotta get a hold of too.

SPEAKER_03 13:41

What's that?

SPEAKER_02 13:42

Cookouts, bro. Cookouts. Can we please drop the the cookout politics and the plate watching committee?

SPEAKER_03 13:56

Okay, unpack that for us.

SPEAKER_02 13:59

The plate watching committee. If you ever been to a cookout, some of y'all put a one in the chat. Put a one in the chat if you ever been to a cookout, and you know it's time to eat. Everybody getting their plates.

SPEAKER_03 14:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:14

You getting your plate, you might decide to get you two plates of chicken. You might you might get the first trip you get. On the first trip, you might get two plates, you know, you might get the extra ribs. But it's always somebody there that's plate watching, you know. It's equivalent to pocket watching.

SPEAKER_03 14:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 14:34

But they looking at DJ why you got two plates. But then you look at them and they ain't cook nothing. They ain't cook nothing, they ain't bring nothing, but they watching your plate.

SPEAKER_03 14:47

Plate watches, man. Well, you know what? While we're talking about cookouts, um things have changed from when I was a child to now. When I was a child, the only thing we were able to eat at the cookouts, either hot dogs and hamburgers. We weren't allowed to eat no ribs. Chips and chips. We weren't able to eat no ribs, uh, no steak, none of them grown folks. Shrimp, we weren't able to eat none of those type of things. The kids eating all those things now. They're not eating no hot dogs. I don't want none of that. I don't want no hamburger. I want some of them steaks. True. They want grown folks stuff, money, stuff they can't afford to pay for.

SPEAKER_02 15:28

My daughter just told me yesterday, Daddy, I want some steak. See? Because the last time we went on the cruise, I had some of that steak and it was delicious. We no longer have no adult. Only thing I got adult in the house that I can have is what I sip and converse on. Because all the other food stuff she's eating, man. So yeah, cookouts has changed, bro. Cookouts changed. And then cookouts changed. Now, one thing we do need to keep on on tap with the cookouts. What's that? Got to keep somebody on the potato salad committee.

SPEAKER_03 16:04

Yeah. Because if you mess up that potato salad on a cookout, on a cookout, the grill might get flipped.

SPEAKER_02 16:12

Yeah, the grill might get flipped. Um, no, no, I take that back. We ain't flipping no grill. It's too much meat on that grill these days. It costs too much.

SPEAKER_03 16:24

If you got the wrong potato salad, it might cost somebody to have the PTSD in the cookout. So the grill might get flipped.

SPEAKER_02 16:30

If that wrong potato salad, them aunties and them aunties and sisters gonna go ham. Because I I've been to cookouts and and people be like, who made this? And if the wrong name come out, that potato salad stay right there. And they'd be wondering why why nobody touched my potato salad. Speaking of potato salad, since we're talking about it, what's your favorite type of potato salad? Is it is it red potatoes? Is it mustard based? Is it mayo based? Is it the public's potato salad? Or is it potato salad with some raisins in it?

SPEAKER_03 17:08

I don't I don't care for the raisin. I really don't care for the mustard either. Um mayonnaise, I'm not big on mayonnaise, so I grew up using um my family used the salad dressing flavor. Yep, yep, yep. Yeah. Boil them potatoes, boiled potatoes, chop them up, yeah, cubes, a little bit of eggs, that little bit of egg in there, then get it cold.

SPEAKER_02 17:32

Yep. And you remember cookouts be like, don't let the potato salad get hot, them eggs gonna mess your stomach. Yeah. So going down there with the traditions, what are some other traditions that you think we as a culture should either continue or eliminate?

SPEAKER_03 17:55

Well, in your opinion. In my opinion, we should not eliminate the spade games at the family union or the cookout. That's the spade spade tables gotta stay. Spade tables got to stay. Spade tables and uh dominoes. Dominoes, yes, they got to stay.

SPEAKER_02 18:16

Now, speaking of spades, if you can't play spades, do not hop yourself in one of them seats talking about you got next.

SPEAKER_03 18:25

I think uh that person really uh started profanity in the world. Whoever came over spade? No, yeah, whoever sat down to play spades. They didn't know how to play spade, they they started profanity in the world because they caused a person to start cussing.

SPEAKER_02 18:42

Yeah. So my space player out there. Okay, let me ask y'all this in the chat. Are you Joker Joker Deuce Deuce?

SPEAKER_03 18:51

Uh oh.

SPEAKER_02 18:52

Deuces wild? Do you do you play with just flat cards, no deuces?

SPEAKER_03 18:57

Or do your deck have to be blue or red?

SPEAKER_02 19:01

Which one? Oh, tradition. Which one is the big joker? The red joker or the black joker?

SPEAKER_03 19:07

Or the one that said guarantee, or the big joker or the little joker. Which one is it? Which one y'all play with? Because we don't want no cussing that these gate spay games because kids around. And kids will pick up that language, sure will. Them little jokers be eardropping. Yep, and they be around the room cussing each other out, and you be around there trying to spank them. And they just repeating what you just said. And you mad. And you mad, you mad at them, and because you got to get up from the table.

SPEAKER_02 19:31

Yeah. And and and and you got Boston Rand on you.

SPEAKER_03 19:35

Oh, not a flight. Oh.

SPEAKER_02 19:39

And then then people be playing Neil and Warner Neg. Oh man. But man, so yeah, you gotta keep from a traditional standpoint, keeping the spades in the in the dominoes.

SPEAKER_03 19:50

And one more game for the fan reunion and cookout.

SPEAKER_02 19:54

Uh oh. Is it I think I'm we might be on the same page. Them horseshoes. I knew you were gonna say it.

SPEAKER_03 20:02

Man, I can't tell you how many uncles and older cousins I seen, boy. They play them horseshoes and talk them, they talk more spec uh smack at the horseshoe games than the spade game. I got a tradition that needs to go. What's that?

SPEAKER_02 20:16

The comparison and contraction of who's been in the hospital the most at the Fed Reunion. That is not an award that you want to celebrate. Because we're talking about all this good food. One thing we gotta do, it definitely our people gotta consider. Even with all this good food, please take care of your health. Yeah. You know, it's all it's all right to have a slab of ribs. But don't try to eat both slabs.

SPEAKER_03 20:43

So what you're saying, instead of going through the line with two plates, just have one plate. Have one plate and then go back and get the second round. Okay. Because it's nothing worse than getting two plates and you don't eat it. Well, then how many slices of cake should I have then?

SPEAKER_02 20:56

I'm not, hey, I said get rid of the plate watchers. I'm not a plate watcher. Have edit. Whatever you want to eat, because my mentality has changed. Okay. From you know, most people plate watch because they run it from the mindset of scarcity.

SPEAKER_03 21:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 21:14

I operate from the mindset of abundance. I feel you. We invite all these people, eat all you want. We got it. We got we got more than enough.

SPEAKER_03 21:21

You got more than enough. Typically you do.

SPEAKER_02 21:24

Typically you do. Now, if you throwing them college cookouts, oh, we got a meeting no size. Especially if it's brothers involved. Meeting no size, nope, no size. We just we just eating steak, hamburger, the hot dogs.

SPEAKER_03 21:39

And a little bit of chips.

SPEAKER_02 21:40

And a little bit of chips. You gotta wait for the girls to come over to tell them, hey, you coming up with your girlfriend? Somebody, somebody bring some size.

SPEAKER_03 21:46

But look, but you well invested in the alcohol, though.

SPEAKER_02 21:49

Oh, we got you got a plethora, baby.

SPEAKER_03 21:52

That's the word of the day. We had a plethora of beverages. Put that in the chat. Who has been at a college cookout and ran out of? Alcohol. One for yes and two for no. Right.

SPEAKER_02 22:05

But yeah, I think, you know, going back to the plate watching and we we joking with that. Yeah, we gotta stop operating. I think a lot of people have gone away from doing family reunions, uh, the Sunday dinners, yeah. Um, the random cookouts where you're inviting people over, because they do operate from the mindset of scares. Yeah. You know, they don't want to uh take on that cost of I've heard people say, I want to come over to cookout, but if I gotta bring something ain't coming. When the point is not so much the food, it's the point of getting together for relationship and being with your family outside of all the negative things.

SPEAKER_03 22:52

And and that's the key thing um you that you just mentioned right there. It's not the point that if you don't have, I know for my family, they don't they understand if you don't have, but it's the negative that you bring to the association with the family. You don't have, but you still bring in all this drama.

SPEAKER_02 23:11

Right. And and a lot of times I just we just want to see you. That's it. Come over here, ain't nobody well in my house. I'm not about to judge, but you know, some people, some people be waiting to judge, though. They be waiting to one up, yeah. You know, it's it's and it's done in the the lack of the spirit of bringing fellowship, yeah, but it's more of flexhip. Yeah. I ain't seen DJ in six months. I want him to see my new car. But it should be in the mindset of getting family together, including the ones that you really can't get along with. Exactly. Yeah, you still set your boundaries, they might not be able to spend the night, but at the same time, you only got one brother, one mother, one sister, or a couple of siblings, or you know, you don't let those disagreements keep y'all completely separated.

SPEAKER_03 24:11

Yes. Even with your extended family, like um That's what I'm talking about. You know, I grew up with cousins that we grew up like siblings, and um, and and you brought up the the point like the one up you and stuff. It's that's not what it's about.

SPEAKER_02 24:28

Because it's you like you said, you only got one family.

SPEAKER_03 24:31

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 24:32

And the way the the way people are transitioning, and I'll put it in that way, that's a nice way to put it, the way people are transitioning unexpectedly and suddenly living with the lifetime of regret.

SPEAKER_03 24:49

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 24:50

Of you look back on it, we're like, what, why are we actually mad? And I'm mad at you because in 1997, and it's 20 years later, and I'm still holding that 1997 grudge.

SPEAKER_03 25:07

Yeah, that's thirty almost 30 years later.

SPEAKER_02 25:10

Yeah. You just you just mad for no reason because you think something happened, but traditions and traditions and culture.

SPEAKER_03 25:19

I got a good one right here. I saw this, it's this growing up as a young adult, and it's still going on today. Watch night service. Uh folks don't go to church all year round, except for about two or three services, but they're gonna go to watch night service. And Mother's Day. But check this out on Watch Night Service. Talk about it. They're gonna uh we're gonna go to watch night service. You know, a lot of churches now have watch night service early in the evening, so don't have people out late at night for safety reasons. But then some churches still gonna hold it at 11 o'clock and make sure they're there till after midnight. And then some people who don't go to church will make sure they're in church after midnight. For some reason, their head, they feel like they're closer to the Lord.

SPEAKER_02 26:10

They're safe for that one night.

SPEAKER_03 26:11

Look, and right after being at church at midnight, they straight at the club, turn it up, at the bar, get me my drink, and I got everybody right here, these next five people. Uh-huh. What kind of tradition is that? What kind of foolishness is that?

SPEAKER_02 26:27

And you add on to that uh the next day traditions. Uh-oh. Oh yeah. Well, how many? Depending on where you where you locate it, I know y'all have heard this one. Who put it in the chat? Who is the first person they need to walk through your front door after New Year's?

SPEAKER_03 26:53

Um, what is it? Um the person who you with?

SPEAKER_02 26:58

It gotta be a man.

SPEAKER_03 26:59

They don't care.

SPEAKER_02 27:00

It's supposed to be a man to walk in your door.

SPEAKER_03 27:03

So for the women.

SPEAKER_02 27:04

For the women. Tradition is a man gotta walk through the front, be the first person to walk through the door. I've seen people, Crib, that won't let their daughters in. No, get your brother. A man gotta walk through the front door.

SPEAKER_03 27:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:17

What's another New Year's tradition? You gotta what's your New Year's tradition meals?

SPEAKER_03 27:22

You gotta eat some type of green vegetable so you make sure you can make some money. Uh-huh. Black eyed peas. Black eyed peas, which I never ate because I don't care for black-eyed peas. I'm pulling your culture car. You don't care for black eyed peas, crib. No. Pull it.

SPEAKER_02 27:39

That's supposed to be on your Sunday. Pull it.

SPEAKER_03 27:44

Black eyed peas? Well, they have me hoodwink for a minute. I'm like, I ate greens every every New Year's.

SPEAKER_02 27:51

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:52

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:52

Oh, the other tradition. Have all your clothes washed. You can't have they can't start a new year with dirty laundry. Why you make that face?

SPEAKER_00 28:04

Never heard that one. I never heard that one.

SPEAKER_02 28:06

When New Year comes in, all your laundry gotta be clean because if not, you're gonna be spending the whole year uh in a dirty house.

SPEAKER_03 28:15

I heard you had to have your house clean. I didn't know about the dirty laundry. House clean means dirty laundry is washed. Oh. Well, some like you said, before we start this episode, some things we need to get rid of in this culture.

SPEAKER_02 28:32

And then I always ask people, you know what would be funny to me, people that break their necks doing the uh same ritual cultural things?

SPEAKER_03 28:40

Yes, that.

SPEAKER_02 28:42

How has your life changed since you've been doing these over the past 20, 30, 40 years that you've been on? Because rather you were doing them yourself or coming up in an environment doing it.

SPEAKER_01 28:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:52

People been doing the black IPs, people have been doing the door thing, people been doing the greens. How has it benefited your life or has it changed?

SPEAKER_03 28:59

It hasn't changed. Um, and that's one of the reasons why I took some of these cultural things out of my life. But um, as we wrap up this episode, we want y'all to reflect on these cultures and traditions that you have been uh introduced or been a part of your life. And if they're not working for you, take them out. Don't let your environment keep you locked in or bonded, keep you in bondage to something that's not working for you.

SPEAKER_02 29:30

Yep. And with that, thank you for joining.

SPEAKER_03 29:32

Yes. Peace out.

SPEAKER_00 29:37

Let's step and converse.

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Let's talk about step and converse.