To Dare, Together: Truth Seeking in the Depths for Healing, Transformation, & Collective Liberation
Hello friend! I’m so grateful you’re here. I created this space for you and I to spend some time together. To Dare, Together. To seek the truth in the depths. To Dare to tune into the wisdom and pleasure of our bodies. To honor the places that hold pain and renewal. To Dare to descend and arise, transformed in the never ending cycle of death and regeneration. To reenchant the world around us from a more embodied and integrated place. To Dare to join in honest connection where liberation, love, equity, beauty, joy, gratitude, sensuality, dignity, and reverence for all life on earth is at the heart of our sacred space.
I am your host, Erin O'Brien, licensed psychotherapist in practice for over 20 years, intuitive healer, relationship counselor, and dare I say, witch, and if you are willing, your friend. Together we will descend into the mystery, into the exquisite darkness because true liberation starts with healing from the inside out. And it happens when we dare to go there, together.
Where are we going, you may ask? Well, we are delving into all the realms of our experience. We will move through our body, heart, mind, soul, spirit, original and chosen family, relationships, communities, cultures, dominant systems in society, intergenerational patterning, ancestral wounds and wisdom, and the great expanse of our collective. Because when we are together, we will seek to know what’s true. We will alchemize and transform, knowing that our fates are inevitably intertwined with one another. So let’s will it together.
My offering here will be a combination of solo explorations together, and deep dives with other like-hearted therapists, healers, intuitives, activists, magickal practitioners, artists, abolitionists, astrologers, visionaries, witches, and more. I want to support our journey of transformation by sharing practices that we can facilitate because ultimately we are our own wisest guide, healer, and teacher. Our body holds so much intelligence if we just slow down enough to listen. When we know how to keep silent and just be, just breathe, just listen, we know how to summon our greatest powers of transformation.
We will explore practices that focus on increasing our somatic awareness, trauma integration, and nervous system regulation. We will work with our shadow to illuminate what needs to be alchemized or released. We will dismantle our internalized systems of dominance and extraction so we resonate with the reciprocity and abundance of life. We will deepen our understanding of intersectionality and how our social location in the world shifts our experiences of power and disembodiment. We will strive to relate with others in ways that are embodied and promote connection, celebrate differentiation, and respectfully move through rupture or conflict so that all beings preserve their dignity. We will conjure the wisdom of our ancestors to strengthen our communal spaces. We will create rituals to attune with the cycles of nature, lunar rhythms, astrology, and the wheel of the year. We will do pathworkings and divination to deepen our relationship to our Higher Self, Spirit Team, Intuition, Magick, Soul’s purpose, and so much more.
We are all here on Earth right now. It’s time To Dare to take a stand for healing, transformation, and collective liberation. And the first step starts from within. Let’s take it together.
“As above, so below, as within, so without, as the universe, so the soul.” – unknown
To Dare, Together: Truth Seeking in the Depths for Healing, Transformation, & Collective Liberation
Quarter Moon Revelations: Your Story Part Two
Today's episode offers Part Two of a guided self-reflection process and explores the cosmic dance between shadow and light as the first quarter moon moves through Libra—the sign of balance, harmony, and justice—we find ourselves standing at the threshold of transformation. This moment invites us to examine what we need to express and what we've been holding back.
Venus conjuncts Uranus at the last anuretic degree of Taurus and creates a potent energetic doorway for profound change. It's no coincidence this alignment happens on July 4th, a day representing both celebration and the shadow of colonization on Turtle Island (North America). Neptune stationing retrograde invites us into reflection, reprocessing, revisiting, rest, and recovery. The astrology mirrors this complexity, challenging us to integrate it all in service of healing ourselves so we can heal this land. The heart of this episode explores relationship dynamics through multiple lenses: attachment history, differentiation, learning, pleasure, and self-regulation.
What does it mean to truly know yourself in relationship? How do you express your innermost desires, thoughts, and feelings while creating space for others to do the same? These questions form the foundation of differentiation—a lifelong developmental process that balances togetherness with separateness, connection with autonomy. Do you dare to look into someone's eyes and risk revealing who you are in this moment? Do you open your heart to dare to believe: "I'm okay, I am lovable, I am worthy."
Through exploring your relationship history, examining your nervous system responses, and reflecting on how you experience pleasure, you'll gain profound insights about your relational patterns. Whether examining how you respond when feeling threatened, how you make bids for connection, or how you repair ruptures, each reflection opens a door to greater self-awareness and relational freedom.
Ready to transform your relationships from the inside out? Dive into this episode to discover how the tension between light and dark creates the perfect alchemy for healing, growth, and authentic connection. Your journey toward collective liberation begins with knowing yourself and how you relate to others more deeply.
Stay tuned until the end and experience a Relationship Specific Dive into your current dynamic!
Recorded on July 3, 2025.
Hello and welcome back. Get ready to dare together, truth-seeking in the depths for healing, transformation and collective liberation. I'm your host, erin O'Brien, licensed psychotherapist in practice for over 20 years. Licensed psychotherapist in practice for over 20 years, intuitive healer, relationship counselor and, dare I say, witch. So I'm recording today, curious about the between space between dark and light.
Speaker 1:During the first quarter moon, wisdom lies in the tension between where you've come from and where you might go next. And in Libra, this is the zodiac sign, it's an air sign and it strives for harmony and peace. And this tension plays out in the realm of relationships and balance and beauty. In the realm of relationships and balance and beauty, and in particular today we're energy, and quarter moons really do invite that space of dark and light in your internal depths that needs to emerge out into the world, into the larger collective that needs to be expressed or voiced. What have you been holding on to, that you need to put words to. And, of course, tomorrow is July 4th and this is the birthday of the signing of the Declaration of Independence, and there is a lot of wild astrology, wild feelings happening with what's going on tomorrow, and I want to stay a little bit more with some of the astrological influences and, again, I am by no means an expert in this. I actually pull a lot and want to give credit to embodied astrology and how they just share so much depthful information in the astrological influences and the impact on activism, liberation, relationships, art, healing, personal development. That's sort of what they stand for with embodied practice. So, again, big fan.
Speaker 1:And Venus has a conjunction with Uranus, and this happens at the last degree of Taurus, at the last degree of Taurus, and what that last degree is. It's called an aneretic degree, and what that means is the last degree symbolizes a really loaded energy, a lot of intensity, disruptive energy, but it's also a doorway for potent transformation, because this is the last moment before we change. The last degree of every sign represents that possibility for transformation, and we know that the 4th of July, you know the celebration of Independence Day here on Turtle Island, which is what the indigenous nations refer to and had always referred to this land as it's a complex time, and so people will be celebrating this moment, and it's also a moment that holds so much of our shadow here in the United States and what we did right to possess this land, which is stolen land from vibrant indigenous peoples that inhabited it. Indigenous peoples that inhabited it. And so the astrology kind of matches what tomorrow, on the 4th of July, holds. It holds a lot. And you know, taurus is a sign that is all about the earth and abundance, and what this land holds is abundance and love and safety and community, instead of power, with domination and hoarding and possessing and scarcity and all those elements. So there's that, and I know in last episode I offered a guided introspection, self-reflection process for you to develop more insight and clarity and to re-experience or maybe elevate the consciousness that you hold in your body and in your heart and in your spirit. And that's what we're here to do. That's how we transform the collective. It starts with us, right. So another part of the astrology, again because I took notes. So I'm sort of referring to aspects of things because I want to pull it forward, I want to bring it into what I can offer and again, I'm borrowing it. This is by no means developed by me. I'm pulling it forth from embodied astrology and what they offer and the information that they so generously share. And so what happens later?
Speaker 1:Tomorrow, friday afternoon, neptune is stationing retrograde and these outer planets station retrograde for a long time, typically for about six months, and this retrograde invites us into all of the RE words, us into all of the RE words reflection, reprocessing, revisiting, reexamining, also rest, retreat I want to add recovery, and this is a moment to do some of that work. To do some of that work. So all of that and I personally hold a lot of energy in my natal chart with the sign of Taurus and Gemini, and Venus is going to be a stationing in Gemini as well. That's a part of the astrology. So I'm really feeling all the things. My moon is in Taurus and my rising sign is in Gemini and my sun sign is in Scorpio, so Taurus and Scorpio are on the. They're opposite each other. So they Taurus won't exist without Scorpio and Scorpio needs Taurus. So lots and lots of things.
Speaker 1:I just went off on a whole thing about astrology. Let's move into what we're going to go into today, and where we're going to pick up is astrology where we left off. This is going to be part two of your deeper reflection, and so I'm going to move into, interestingly enough, an R word which I've been saying a lot relationships. I want to share a little bit about my belief in the enormous power and possibility that exists in our closest intimate relationships, and they come in all shapes and sizes. It's not just romantic, sexual, family-based relationships. These are relationships that come to us partnerships of all kinds, connections, attachment-based relationships and we're constantly being transformed and evolving in these contexts, and they provide us a sacred foundation that we are more able to move through the world with ease and security and a sense of true belonging.
Speaker 1:The magic of interdependent relationships mean that we can breathe deeply into our own desires, opinions, thoughts and dreams, while creating a secure, functioning, differentiated relationship with another or others who strive to bring the same truest self into view. We feel able to depend on another while feeling comfortable with their dependence on us, and I'm expanding on attachment-based relationships in particular. Here we flow in and out of our dynamic of connection and space, relationship and autonomy with ease. This is a space where both you and I matter and we are equally caring for our relationship. As we commit to care for ourselves, we are accountable and responsible to be conscious and aware of what we want and how we show up. If there is something happening inside us or in between us, we commit to unearth it, address it and repair it If we find that it is time to end or de-escalate our relationship, we do so with respect and honor for the lessons and gifts we take as our path paths part. I offer this right now as a vision, as a relationship mission statement, as a way of being relational right, because it matters.
Speaker 1:And yet I know that, even with the best intentions, if we've encountered painful or stressful life experiences, especially in relationships where trusted others have failed us, it can fog our lens of both ourselves and our interactions with others. It can change who we think we are and what we believe we deserve from others. We think we are and what we believe we deserve from others. It alters how we respond, perceive and soothe our bodies and hearts when we are in a state of threat or fear, anger or self-preservation and, most especially, shame. Shame makes us pull away from relationships we want to hide, we diminish, we become so small and silent. Right, shame is very powerful and we all experience it. And the counter shame experience is to be able to turn and look into someone's eyes and feel felt and know I'm okay, I'm okay, I am lovable and worthy, I am not bad. Right, shame can feel like an I am experience, can feel like an. I am experience. I didn't just make a mistake. I am a mistake right.
Speaker 1:So part of what influences and shapes us has to do with our earliest experiences with the trusted adults, with the caregivers, the family members and within our communities and society. Equally as important is our experiences with the social sphere around us and how we are treated, based on some really important factors, key aspects of who we are right, based on social constructs, of course, having to do with our racial identity, our cultural identity, our ethnicity, our class background, our gender identity, sexual identity, ability, religion, spirituality, et cetera, et cetera. I could go on. The intersection of all these factors in our lives makes up the filter with which we see, hear and sense our relationships. So now we're going to shift a bit into looking at your relationship history and those important pieces. And why is your relationship history important? Well, it's a way to map out your experiences with important others, and you can map it out in several different ways and I'm going to go through this with you.
Speaker 1:Reflect on your past significant intimate relationships. You can consider them in chronological order or current to past. Reflect on a few aspects. Think about your age and the person's age when the relationship began. Think about the length of the relationship is this person still in your life and how, if it ended or de-escalated, what was that like? And then consider the overall experience of the relationship right. What were some of the themes or patterns that you noticed? How did you tend to feel about yourself as a person? Some examples I'm unwanted, I'm cherished, I matter, I'm unimportant, those kinds of things. Let yourself reflect on how you felt about you inside the dynamic, and then it's interesting to notice where there are parallels and themes right Across your experiences in significant relationships, and when I say intimate, I mean close relationships.
Speaker 1:These do not have to be necessarily romantic or sexual relationships. These do not have to be necessarily romantic or sexual. These are relationships that mattered to you across your development. These can be deep friendships, chosen family, people that were your go-to right, that you entrusted with your heart, with your emotions and your inner world, and this can also include, of course, romantic, sexual, intimate relationships of that kind as well, and you can certainly map this out or create a timeline, however you prefer Map this out or create a timeline, however you prefer and this really serves to look at your history and even just how you feel about each person as you kind of go through and reflect on those dynamics and those experiences and maybe the highs and the lows that happen. What did you learn about yourself in those relationships? And this, of course, could be a whole several series conversation on relationship experiences and history and those influences.
Speaker 1:Now I'm going to leave that here and I'm going to shift a bit into your relationship orientation, which also is important because it's a part of your identity or an aspect of yourself and I want you to consider how this has evolved over time. So make space for that in your reflection and I'm going to name some words and I want you to see how these land with you or if any of them resonate Single, unpartnered, by choice, solo dating, partnered in an open relationship, monogamous, non-monogamous, poly, kinky, married, divorced, widowed relationship, anarchist, et cetera, et cetera. There's many. Just see if any of those resonate with you right now and please say for yourself and name any things that I did not just say. There's so many ways to identify in terms of your relationship, identity or orientation. What have your experiences been like identifying with any of those names? Did you have to come out around any aspect of yourself or your identity, around relationship orientation? If so, what was that like for you? How did those closest to you respond? What in your world changed after you shared this with others? And, of course, a part of this is your sexual identity, sexual orientation. If you identify as queer, that's certainly going to be a part of this right. It's a self-identity, a self-expression, and it's a part of a relational context as well. So just thinking about when you had your first queer relationship and what those experiences were like, as that part of your identity was evolving and shifting Right.
Speaker 1:So now I'm going to move us into a set of questions to a set of questions, and part of what I like to talk a lot about with the folks I work with and in my own journey is differentiation. In addition to attachment and interpersonal neurobiology and all the things, all the relational things and intersectionality, differentiation is a lifelong developmental process of being able to maintain your sense of self when you are close to others. It is a higher order process that involves balancing both togetherness and separateness, connection and autonomy. So we're going to first explore what is known as self-differentiation, and I'm pulling some of this directly from content, from the developmental model of couples therapy. It's one of the modalities I've done a lot of training in and this comes out of their work, and it's a set of continuums that they use to help folks really explore what process, what developmental process they're in kind of where they fall on a continuum of self-differentiation. So I'm going to name some things and you just listen and see what might resonate with you.
Speaker 1:So self-differentiation is the process of being able to tune into oneself, know your own inner thoughts, feelings, desires, opinions, perspectives, right, you understand your inner world and not only are you in contact with it and in tune with it, but you have the capacity to be vulnerable and self-reveal and self-express who you are, right, what matters to you, and to be able to do that with others and to be able to tolerate expressing parts of yourself, most especially, that are different from them, right? So, number one I don't know what I think or feel. Number two it doesn't cross my mind to reveal myself to my partner or partners or other important people. Number three I expect the important others in my life to know what I'm thinking and feeling without having to say it. Number four I only express my feelings in defensive and irritable ways. Number five I never ask for what I want because it feels too vulnerable. Number six I feel ready to explore my own desires more deeply.
Speaker 1:Number seven I share a little of what's bothering me, despite my fear. Number eight I ask for support on issues that matter to me. Number nine I remind myself to hold on to what is important to me. Number 10, I trust that my partner, partners and important others can tolerate my concerns and I want them to know me better. Number 11, I emotionally risk saying what is on my mind and hold on to my truth in the face of our differences. Number 12, I proactively initiate discussions and activities that are healthy for me and us, that are vital to my life force energy for me and us.
Speaker 1:Okay, now I'm going to shift into the other dimension of differentiation, which is other differentiation. What this refers to is I have the capacity to hold steady while listening, to understand you, to tolerate what I learn is a part of our differences, to be able to be really empathic and caring and understanding of your experience as a separate whole human that I happen to be in relationship with, and I want to know who you are and I'm able to self-regulate and self-soothe and hold on to me as I hear from you, even when it's hard right, even when what you have to reveal and share is hard for me and creates tension or anxiety or fear. Okay, so what resonates with you most? Number one I never think about what my partner is experiencing or what my partners or other close important others are experiencing. Number two I assume I know what my partner or partners want, based on what I want. Number three I spend most of my time focused on what I want and am not getting.
Speaker 1:Number four I take my partner's grievances personally and react badly. Personally and react badly. Number five I get easily distressed by how different the important others in my life are from me. Number six I feel ready to explore the important others in my life's desires more deeply. Number seven I get curious about my partner's perspective and actively ask questions. 8. I ask for a time out if I need to calm down and continue the discussion once I have. 9. I can put myself in my partner's shoes and feel what they are feeling. 10. I notice when I've hurt my partner and repair quickly. Number 11, I take actions that I know will help my partner or partners feel more loved, appreciated and valued. Number 12, I am genuinely interested in learning from my partner's experience in order to be in right relationship with them, to be a better part of our dynamic. So that is a little bit on differentiation, which I will be talking about a lot.
Speaker 1:Now I'm going to shift a bit and I'm going to move into a few other places. Now we're going to be exploring significant deceptions and betrayals that happen inside relationships. Have you ever experienced a significant betrayal in a relationship? This can include affairs, breaches in relationship agreements, secret keeping about money or other deceptions. Was repair possible? And there's much to explore with all of that, because betrayal trauma is real and when affairs and deceptions and breaches of trust occur in relationships, in attachment-based relationships, in close, intimate relationships, relationships of all kinds, really it can create an enormous distress response and so more, much more on that.
Speaker 1:Now we're going to move into self-care and self-regulation. If you want to reduce intense emotions or sensations, what do you do, my friend? Intense emotions or sensations, what do you do, my friend, if you want to activate, take some deep breaths and soothe my body, to be more embodied, to get out of that hyper-aroused state, out of the window of tolerance, so to speak? When you feel threatened, how does your nervous system typically react? Upregulation, or what is known as hyperarousal, which includes fight, flight, freeze, cry out, confront. Or do you tend to downregulate, which is also known as hypo-arousal Collapse, shut down, dissociate, submit. This can feel like depression, right, and of course, hyper-arousal can feel like anxiety.
Speaker 1:What does self-care involve for you? And this can include pleasure, this can include rest. Those are resistance. Those are a part of the revolution of how we live in our bodies, right? Who or what makes you laugh? What is one of your favorite ways to experience joy or pleasure? Right, and let's spend a little time with pleasure, shall we? What gives you pleasure? What does your body and spirit and heart delight in? Right, and just stay with that a moment. And as you stay with that, I'm going to move specifically to one of the dimensions of pleasure, and this comes straight out of a therapist and ASEC certified sex therapist and relationship therapist whose name is Martha Cowpey, and she designed a brief assessment and I did some training with her Institute for Relational Intimacy, and this is on sexuality and desire. So I'm just going to read through some of these as well Sexuality that has been on your mind, that you have been wanting to talk about with either a close trusted other, a current partner, maybe your therapist, if you are doing that work, maybe another healing practitioner?
Speaker 1:But just let yourself tune in. Has it been on your mind? Let yourself tune in, has it been on your mind? And if you are in a partnership or have intimate others that you experience sexual intimacy with, I'm going to go through a couple more questions and I want you to just tune in to what comes up. When your partner or close intimate other or lover is interested in a sexual interaction, do you feel willing? Are you interested in sex? Do you think about sex? Do you experience desire? Does any kind of sexual touch feel uncomfortable or painful? Do you experience body signs of arousal, flushing, increased heart rate, hardness, wetness? Has this changed over time? Are you able to reach orgasm when you want to, with or without a partner or lover? At the end of the experience of sexual or physical intimacy and again, this can include all kinds. I'm not just referring to the escalator type of linear sex model where, foregone conclusion, this equals that and then this and then that. And I'm also not referring to foregone conclusion penetrative sex is the sex, or penis, vagina, sex is the ultimate right. No, no, no, but at the end of an intimate experience. But at the end of an intimate experience, do you feel satisfied? Would you do it again? And I know there is a lot on this dimension of pleasure and sexuality and desire and lots of different researchers have a lot to say on it, and so we will certainly be exploring those dimensions.
Speaker 1:So what I want to also go into here now is if you are in a relationship right now, as an adult, in a caregiving role or parenting role of any little ones. Are you currently raising any children? If so, what are their names and ages? Do you have the support or involvement of close, important others in raising them? How did you decide to create a family? Were there significant fertility or medical experiences involved? Did you engage a foster care or adoption system? What was your process in creating family? Are you content with the size of your family? What are you dreaming of? What are you longing for?
Speaker 1:How would you describe your child or children or little ones that you are currently in a caretaking role of? If you could change an aspect of your caregiving or parenting, what would you do and why? What do you think your child or children or the little ones you are entrusted to care for would say about your relationship with them, would say about your relationship with them. What would they say? How would they describe the relationship? What is a joyful memory you have about being in a parenting or caregiving role? Right, when have you had to repair a rupture with your child or children, and what did that look like? How has becoming a parent changed you? What would you say? Your philosophy or guiding principles are about how you parent, how you are choosing to raise and teach and love this little child or children. So we're shifting a bit now into your relationship to learning and education.
Speaker 1:What was your overall experience of school growing up? What was your family's attitude towards education and learning and that development of the mind and passion and purpose and competency right? What were you most passionate about learning? What lit you up when you were a child and older? What did you gravitate towards? What could you just not get enough of? What were you least interested in? What was really challenging to stay focused in on? Really challenging to stay focused in on? What is the highest degree earned in your family? Are you content with your level of education? Why or why not?
Speaker 1:And the educational system here in the United States is very complex, right, there is a lot of really alarming laws and who gets access to education and what kind of education, and what groups of people are given acknowledgement for their contributions to our overall learning and development as humans. And who's left out, and why? Right? Who do we learn about? What books are we allowed to read and why aren't we allowed to read others? There's so much here when you think about your relationship to what you do with your time in your life and this moves into the realm of occupation, your career, and this includes paid work and unpaid work, in or out of the home. Right, because all the contributions matter, whether our system recognizes them and acknowledges them and values them or not. They still matter. And, of course, we internalize all the devaluing that happens based on the kind of work and how much you get paid for that work, or not paid or recognized. Right, there's so much here.
Speaker 1:Describe your ideal work. Take a moment and let yourself get dreamy. What would you love to be contributing to the world right now? What are your gifts, your purpose, your path? What do you hold dear? What lights you up again? What are you uniquely here? To bring into the collective your unique voice and gift and purpose, because only you can bring it and so we need you. And, of course, there are lots of barriers to us being able to connect to our path and purpose and so recognizing those, honoring those who gets access to education and advancement and entry right All those pieces are inseparable from the hierarchical power structures right, from the hierarchical power structures right.
Speaker 1:So we're shifting a bit now into your community. Who are your chosen family or closest people? How would you describe your overall experience with them? How do you spend time together? You spend time together. What are the experiences that you feel most connected while doing Like? What are those activities that make you feel most a part of or belonging to a group or community? We're going to now move into a relationship specific reflection journey, and I'm saving this for the end, because what I want you to contemplate is a current important relationship in your life right now, and I'm going to go through a series of questions. And this is a reflection journey that I give to my, to the relationships that I'm supporting, and invites a deeper reflection, exploration process, sort of a primer before we move into our relational work. All right, here we go.
Speaker 1:How long have you and this person been involved? In what form and, if it's changed, in what ways? Are you satisfied with the current level of your involvement? Commitment or agreements? Why or why not? What initially drew you to this person and how did you decide to become involved? Was there ever a period where you decided to break up or de-escalate your involvement? How did you reconnect what was the very beginning of your involvement like? This might be thought of as new relationship, energy, neurochemical bonding or the symbiotic stage of relationship development. How long did this initial phase last? What do you find most fulfilling about your connection to this person? If your relationship includes sexual or physical intimacy, how would you describe it? Has it shifted over time? How do you contribute to the current state of your sexual and physical connection? How does this person contribute?
Speaker 1:Describe the first time you felt disillusioned or disappointed by this person. What happened and how did you resolve it? When do you feel least fulfilled in your connection with this person? How much distress are you currently experiencing with this person? On a scale from 1 to 10? In what significant ways are you similar to this person? How are you different? On a scale from 1 to 10. How do you manage conflict? If there is a pattern of negative interaction. How would you describe it? What does that dance look like?
Speaker 1:Describe what happens when a rupture occurs between you. What does repair look like and who typically initiates? Are you able to express your innermost thoughts, feelings and desires to this person? Do you feel known and understood by them? Do you take an interest in their internal world and, would they say, they feel known and understood by you? Do you take an active, energetic role in nourishing your connection with this person through their love language, so to speak? Does this person do the same for you? Do you each strive toward creating a culture of appreciation, gratitude and respect? How do you create shared meaning or purpose together? Where are you aligned in important life dreams? If you are creating a life together, how do you support each other's individual dreams? What are some of your rituals of connection? What are some of your rituals of connection? What do reunions and goodbyes look like? For example, if you happen to share a bed, bedtime is a goodbye and waking up in the morning is a reunion.
Speaker 1:As you strive to improve your connection with this person, what will be required of you? That will be hard right, as this person strives to improve their connection with you because, let's be real. We're all striving to improve our connection right as we evolve, as we are human, as we create ruptures or misattunements or we're just cranky or hungry, whatever we are going to have an impact on the important others around us we care about. So we're all improving our connections on some level, hopefully and let me return to my question. I just went off on a whole thing as this person strives to improve their connection with you, what will be required of them? That will be hard right. So I think I'm going to end the journey reflection for now, and I want to say that you know, I pulled a lot from some of the exercises I bring in with the folks who I do relationship therapy with, and I also pull from a ton of different trainings and modalities in working with relationships.
Speaker 1:In working with relationships and I'll do deep dives into those in future conversations I also want to name that working with relationships requires intensive and depthful work, and so it's for that reason that I really love to work in deeper ways with my relationships, and part of what I offer is not just the traditional, conventional how the dominant system tells therapists the ways in which we have to work in order to get access to things like reimbursement for our clients, et cetera. Right that? Dismantling the system for me also means integrating different ways of working with the people that I am working with, and so that means longer sessions, that means intensive sessions, that means working for maybe two full days with a couple or with a relationship that's coming to heal and transform their connection. So, more on that, very exciting to be moving out of dominant ways of being and moving into deeper ways of healing and connecting and transforming. So that's all for now, folks.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much for your time, for your attention, for staying with me, and I can't wait to be with you again soon. I'm your host and, dare I say, witch, as above, so below, as within, so without, as the universe. So the soul. Bye for now.
