🎙️“Becoming Together: How Marriage Survives the Changes in Us”

This episode started with a setback… but maybe that was the point.

After thinking we had recorded 30 minutes—only to realize our equipment had other plans—we were forced to start over. And in many ways, that mirrors what marriage often requires…

Starting over. Adjusting. Growing. Becoming.

In this episode of Feathered In Grace & Armor, Gina and Chadd dive deep into one of the most important—and often overlooked—truths about marriage:

👉 You are not the same person you were when you said “I do.”

And neither is your spouse.

The question is…
 Are you growing together—or growing apart?

From the emotional and physical seasons a woman walks through, to the shifting roles, expectations, and needs within a marriage—this conversation is raw, real, and necessary.

Gina opens up about this stage of her life and the need for more gentleness, understanding, and emotional connection, while also sharing a powerful story about her grandfather—someone who showed her what it looks like to evolve in love over time.

Chadd and Gina also confront a hard truth many couples face:
 👉 Do we sometimes try to “fix” or even parent our spouse… instead of loving them as a partner?

Because marriage isn’t about control.
 It’s about connection.

This episode is a reminder that love isn’t static—it’s seasonal, stretching, and sacred.

❤️ It requires grace in one season…
 🛡️ Strength in another…
 🙏 And faith through all of it.

If you’ve ever felt like your marriage is changing… this conversation will meet you right where you are.

💬 Like, share, or leave a review—and tell us:
 How are YOU growing in your marriage right now?

Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:04

Welcome to Feathered in Grace and Armor. I'm Gina.

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And I'm the Armor part of this podcast. I'm Chad.

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Together, we're here to explore the beautiful balance between grace and strength in our lives.

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In a world that often pushes us to choose sides, softness or toughness, vulnerability or resilience, we believe the true power lies in embracing both.

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Each week we'll dive into heartfelt conversations, share inspiring stories, and discuss the lessons we've learned on our journeys of faith, love, and personal growth.

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So join us as we uncover how to walk through life gracefully, all while wearing the armor of God against the challenges we face.

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Whether you're a man or a woman, our hope is that this podcast becomes a source of encouragement and wisdom for you.

SPEAKER_00 0:49

So let's spread our wings and forge ahead together on this adventure of life, love, and the pursuit of grace. Hello, hello again. We are back behind the mics here at the Clubhouse Studios. We are. On the ones and twos, Chad and Gina, feathered in grace and armor. Yes. We're excited to be back here. We've got a great episode for you guys. Got some really awesome things to talk about.

SPEAKER_04 1:16

We do. Do we want to share what just happened to us, though?

SPEAKER_00 1:20

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_04 1:21

You don't want to talk about the rain or the weather, but you want to talk about I want I want everybody to know it is raining here only because if you hear rain in the background, there's nothing wrong with our audio. We it is raining and it's we have some thunder to unless we lose power.

SPEAKER_00 1:36

But yeah, it's raining. And we uh said that in the first go around of this podcast because friends and family are sending us snow pictures from Indiana. They are not fun, and we don't wish that upon any of them.

SPEAKER_03 1:51

No.

SPEAKER_00 1:52

So this is round number two. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:56

Because something happened. No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 2:00

Don't know. Say what happened.

SPEAKER_04 2:02

I thought there was an update to our sorry, I digress. Okay. So we were well into this podcast episode.

SPEAKER_00 2:12

Oh, it I bet it was almost pushing 30 minutes.

SPEAKER_04 2:15

And we were like, this is so great. And then we look over and it's not recording.

SPEAKER_00 2:21

Well, Gina looked over and then had said five minutes on it. And then Gina looked at Chad and was like, What is going on? Are you recording?

SPEAKER_04 2:32

Okay, I didn't say it like that. Should we start over? So should we start over? It's a little aggressive. This is great. This is great. This is this is real. This is authentic. It's definitely real. So, anyway, we had a little moment with each other because you know She thought it was my fault.

SPEAKER_00 2:49

I said it was her fault.

SPEAKER_04 2:51

Yeah, and then we realized it was actually our podcast equipment fault because there was an update and it started updating in the middle, and so it kicked off our recording. Yeah. And that's what happens. I mean, it's real life, and we're nothing better than technology. But honestly, what I said to you when we kissed and made up. Kissed and made up was you know, this is spiritual warfare because what we have to say, what we were talking about, needs to be said and heard.

SPEAKER_00 3:24

Well, it needs to be heard. And I just think it was real it was a really good, it's a really good topic, and I think you were really like just batting home runs.

SPEAKER_04 3:34

That's a lot of pressure. Don't say that, because now I have to try to recreate it all. Yeah. So I think it's gonna be fine though.

SPEAKER_00 3:40

I think it's gonna be fine though. I think it is. So do we want to get right back into it?

SPEAKER_04 3:45

Let's get right back into it.

SPEAKER_00 3:46

Well, let me set it up here real quick.

SPEAKER_04 3:48

Oh, I love this. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 3:49

Let me set it up real quick. Set it up because the other because the other day you had come to me and and give me a little glimpse of this story that you're about to share. Last night. Yeah, yesterday.

SPEAKER_04 4:00

It was last night.

SPEAKER_00 4:01

Yeah, see, wow. Um, gave me a little glimpse of this story about you know how people change. Yes. And the story that you shared was real short and simple last night. You're gonna give the extended version now, but it really made it really made me think about, you know, how do people change? How do we as couples change? How do how has our environment changed? How has this world changed? How has the information that we take in changed? Um, you know, and we talk you talk you're gonna talk about information overload and yeah, just all the things, but uh, you know, people changing and having to adapt and cope and adjust and well what what do you think is like so uh we didn't say this before, but one of the number one reasons that people say they get divorced is what? People don't change. Or they change.

SPEAKER_04 4:57

Sometimes they say that. You're right, you're not wrong. But a lot of times people say they changed.

SPEAKER_00 5:02

He changed, she changed.

SPEAKER_04 5:04

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:06

And you're gonna talk about this in depth here in a little bit about how you know you have a you have a duty, you have an obligation, you have a moral compass to change with your partner. You're supposed to change with your partner, you're supposed to learn from your partner and grow.

SPEAKER_03 5:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:25

Um because if your partner's growing and you're stuck in, you know, 2012.

unknown 5:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:34

Hey buddy, it's 2026 here. Right. We're no longer living that same life. Better make some changes. But what I like about the story you're about to share with us is it involves a grandpa.

SPEAKER_04 5:43

Yeah. Yes, it does.

SPEAKER_00 5:45

You got something else you want to put in front of me?

SPEAKER_04 5:46

Well, I just I just want to kind of talk about the so the reason that I came to you last night and you know, I I did, I I just I didn't do justice to this story. Um, and because I was just giving you, I was segueing it into things that I wanted to talk about for us. Like this was a moment for us. This wasn't about the podcast. This was for I needed to tell you how I was feeling about changes that were happening for me. And as women, you know, I'm 55, I'll be 56 in less than a month. And, you know, women, you're either going to, you're working up to this point, you're at this point, or you're past this point. But we're all, we're all gonna be there. So there's a lot of things that go changes for women with perimenopause, and that can last for 10 years, and then you go through menopause, and then it's postmenopause, which is where I am. I'm I'm postmenopausal, but there's still a lot of things that go with it, and there's so many changes in our bodies and hormones and everything, and so not only that, just where I am in life, you know, I was telling Chad that like you turn 50 and you're like, oh, 50. And then, you know, I turned to 55, and I was like, wow, I'm double nickels, like 55, and now turning 56, I'm like, oh, now I'm headed towards 60. And there's just a lot of changes and um and and not not negative, it's just changes, it's part of life. And it's a lot, and it can be a lot. And I was saying, you know, it's information overload, um, just with, you know, you should be eating this and doing this type of exercise and don't do that type of thing, and take this supplement. No, don't take that supplement, and there's just all these things, but that really isn't like at the core of what I want to talk about. But I'm just saying that there's a lot because even there's a lot about relationships and about growth and about change. And I think we we sometimes and I and I had to admit to you last night that there are times when I look back on our life together in relationship and I say, gosh, I wish it was like that. I wish it was still like that. Or I wish we were still in that part of our relationship or phase of our relationship. And, you know, trust me, I I coach on this and I talk to people about this, and I have to coach myself and be like, well, Gina, you can't stay there. That that's not growth, that's not change, that's not, that's not reality. That's that isn't realistic. You we we can't do that. We're not supposed to do that. But we are human, and so sometimes those are times though, that like they were um that for me they were good, right? And so of course I want that those feelings back and and that time, but we change too, and our bodies change, and there's so many things, and and men go through things too. But you know, ladies, isn't it interesting how the things we go through are named like menstruation, menstruation, menopause, like everything's about men, right?

SPEAKER_00 9:30

I guess I never really thought about that.

SPEAKER_04 9:32

Yeah, what the heck? It should be woman pause.

SPEAKER_00 9:34

We should really do a deep dive into the word and how it came about and who men created it. Men created it. Men probably did create it.

SPEAKER_04 9:42

So, and I'm I'm not trying to bash on men, but it's just kind of funny. I don't know why it's called that and when it's about women, but you know, men, you guys have your own form of menopause, if you will. Um, you you'd really do. It's clinically, scientifically, medically, it's there, and you just go through things as well. So I was just talking to Chad about, you know, where I am and the things that I need from him that look differently than they probably did before. And um, you know, one of those things that I was saying was, I I need more gentleness. I just, and not that he's not, you know, he's not gentle, but I just needed more gentleness. And um I told him I was like, you know, I I sometimes may seem like a cactus on the outside, but inside I'm like soft and gooey, and I I just need a little bit more gentleness right now um with where I'm at. And we were also just talking about was talking about like uh being a wife and how I can there's some things that I need to work on to be a better wife, and there were things that you know um I was trying to explain, and I I'm not sure that I I did a really uh great job of it trying to explain everything that I needed, but I found this Instagram post, which you all know that I have this love-hate relationship with social media, but I found this Instagram post that uh it just it resonated and I thought it was very powerful. And I want it I want to read it to you guys because I think it's just something that you know a lot of you out there are uh you're in relationships, you're in marriages, or you're going to be. And this was just beautiful. So it says, My grandparents were married for 60 years. One day I asked my grandfather, What's the secret to loving the same woman for a lifetime? He didn't laugh, he didn't say communication, he didn't say date nights, he looked at my grandmother, who was in the kitchen, and said, You don't love the same woman. That confused me. He said, She changes every few years, and if you don't update the way you love her, you lose her. He told me the girl he married at twenty-two wasn't the same woman at thirty. Motherhood changed her. Loss changed her. Time changed her. At 40, he said, she needed respect more than romance. At 50, she needed partnership more than passion. At sixty, she needed presence more than promises. And every time she changed, he had a choice. He said the biggest mistake men make is this they fall in love once, but then stop paying attention. Loving a woman for a lifetime, he told me, is deciding to stay curious about her. Not assuming you know her, not freezing her in the version you met. He leaned back and said something I'll never forget. If you stop studying her, someone else eventually will. Sixty years. Not because it was easy, but because he kept relearning her.

SPEAKER_00 13:17

Wow.

unknown 13:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:22

I mean, it's just such a powerful, powerful story.

SPEAKER_03 13:27

It is.

SPEAKER_00 13:27

And it's one of those stories that you know, it's you you almost want to share that at a wedding, excuse me. Yes, at a wedding reception, or you know, counseling uh a young married couple that are that are getting ready to get married and you know, letting them hear that story. Yes, you know, along with the the Ephesians 5 25 and 26 and and those those Bible verses, you know. Those are just great pieces of of content to to tell young people that are getting married.

SPEAKER_04 13:59

They really are, and it is so true. We we should grow. We should grow, we should change.

SPEAKER_00 14:09

Well, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 14:10

Um, individually and and as a couple in our relationship, we absolutely should. I mean, this is what I do with people. Like you should be doing this. Yeah. But so many times one person does and the other person doesn't, or you know, you you just you try to keep things the way they were, you don't try to relearn or get curious, stay curious about the person. And it it causes a lot of tension, it causes disconnection. And I think, you know, I I I've I've talked to many many of my clients, like we work on this, right? We work on growth and uh just changes for the for the positive. But I will hear from them often that their their person that they're in a relationship with is struggling with the changes this person is making and the growth that they're making. Um because they're they're trying to stay in that same place, right? Or they want that, they want who they were before and they don't want the change in the growth. And I think underneath that is fear, right? We're fear that someone's gonna outgrow us.

unknown 15:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 15:35

Mm-hmm. That we're not gonna be able to maybe keep up or be able to do our own growth. That mean that means we have to do our own work and we're we don't want to do that, we're not ready for that.

SPEAKER_00 15:49

You also said the other day you wanted me to be your king.

SPEAKER_04 15:53

Yeah, so this is something else when when we were talking and I was saying like things that I need to do to do a better job of. And we've touched on this before in a podcast way back, and I had said to you ladies that um your husband doesn't want to be parented, that being his mother is not sexy. And that's true. However, and I I don't want to speak for every woman out there, but I'm just gonna give you my perspective. I think a lot of us women try to parent our husbands. And then I think like we wear it like a badge of honor, like for example, we have five children. So I it would be like me saying to someone, Well, it's like I have six kids. And because I have to parent my husband along with the kids.

SPEAKER_00 16:54

Gosh, that would probably send me right over the moon or something. Or right over the edge, I guess, not over the moon.

SPEAKER_04 17:00

Yeah. So it's and listen, we as women, you know, mo most of the time we have this maternal instinct, we have this caretaking, caregiving, nurturing side to us that we do. We care, we care for people. However, caring isn't the same as parenting, and for whatever reason, we seem to step into that role a lot of times. And and I I'm putting myself in that category as well. That's why I was saying to Chad, like, I feel like I parent you and I don't want to do that. And I don't want to be your mother, I don't want to act like your mother. I don't want to like, I don't want to do that. And I'm sure you don't want me to do it. And I know that there's times that I am doing it, and I have to figure that out. And I have to look at myself because I have to say, why am I doing that? Well, I mean, for me, and I don't know about you ladies out there, but I think a lot of times it's about control. We just want control. And then there's probably a layer of fear, you know, and it because underneath the control is fear. And for me, with my primal question being, am I safe? I want to have a lot of control because then if I do, it lessens the fear because I know what's coming, I can anticipate everything, I can tell everybody where they need to be, what they need to be doing, when they need to be doing it, how it's going to be done, and then I feel really safe, right? But that's you can't live That's a lot of control. That's a lot of scramble. That's a scramble. You can't live like that. And but I think there are moments, you know, where I I do that, where I parent you because I'm I'm in a scramble of some sort.

SPEAKER_00 18:48

Now, would you like to share with our listeners real quick, like how you parent me? Now, this isn't you picking out my clothes for the day. This isn't you know, making sure I'm doing the things I need to be doing.

SPEAKER_04 19:10

Well, I I mean, sometimes I think I do pick out your clothes for you.

SPEAKER_00 19:15

Sometimes you buy my clothes, but I'm with you.

SPEAKER_04 19:18

Well, yeah. I mean, I don't look I don't think that's the I don't think that's parenting. I think we're shopping together and we're like it's just like when you were like, Oh, that looks good on you, and I say, Oh yeah, that looks good.

SPEAKER_00 19:29

So give us some examples of like parenting your husband.

SPEAKER_04 19:33

I think like telling you instead of like, I'll be like, No, we're not gonna do that, or can you do this or you need to do that?

SPEAKER_00 19:41

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 19:42

I mean, there are some things like yes, when I'm like because I just picked up your wet towel off the bed, by the way, before we started this podcast.

SPEAKER_00 19:53

That's because you just got done yelling at me.

SPEAKER_02 19:58

Oh, I was parenting you. You were parenting. I was parenting you. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 20:02

I was I was waiting for you to get that. Perfect.

SPEAKER_04 20:05

Yes, yeah. So yes, so there you have in in some of those ways. It's like that stuff, yes. I mean, I think it's gonna look different for every couple in the way that like you consider like how you're parenting. Oh, absolutely. You know, I think it's different. 100%. But I think that we do, I think we women, we tend to do that. And here's the thing. And then we can't understand why our husbands don't step up to the plate sometimes. Well, I think they don't step up to the plate because they don't know where the plate is or where what they should do with the plate because we've been telling them that they're not doing it right.

SPEAKER_00 20:48

They're just they're just going along, they're just going along with the motions.

SPEAKER_04 20:52

Yeah, we've been parenting. They're afraid to, they're afraid to step up to the plate because we've told them, no, you're not doing that right. Yeah and I, you know, or I'll do it, or here, or you should be doing this. And so they don't know what to do. And again, I'm gonna flip it again. I my perspective, again, just my perspective, I feel that some men they want to complain like, oh, she just parents me, she tells me what to do, uh, you know, I can I can't I can't do anything right, so I just won't do anything. So I won't step up to the plate, I won't be the man. It's a great excuse to not grow, not grow, get out of the comfort zone, right, right, be a man, yes, be a leader, yes, and by that, because you know, I do consider myself a strong, independent woman, however, I want a man who leads, and that doesn't mean that you're telling me. what to do. It just means that you're being respectful. We're doing this together. It's really nobody should be, you know, one over the other. We like I said to you last night, I said, we are allies. We're on the same team. We should be sitting on the same side of the table together. We're not sitting on opposite sides of the table. We, you know, we're we're not against each other. We should be for each other. But that isn't always what happens. And I think that that is sometimes the cause of a lot of disconnection with couples. That you start you start being like defensive and going on you know the defense with each other instead of like, hey, we're supposed to be supporting each other in this. We're here for each other.

SPEAKER_01 22:53

Right.

SPEAKER_04 22:54

And I think that happens a lot. And I think that falls into what I was saying where we're we're not taking the time to allow space for one another to grow and change individually and then together. And that the expectation that we're going to stay the same like if you're married for even twenty-five years you're you're going to change. Like you're you are not going to be the same person. Twenty five years is a long time. Just like what I read to you like when you start out if you're if you're in your early twenties by the time you're in your mid thirties you're not the same person.

SPEAKER_00 23:41

No. I I think each decade you're you change somehow. You get absolutely the better you grow, you you know Yeah I I know I'm not the same person as when I was in my twenties and thirties. Right.

SPEAKER_04 23:55

And 40s even right so I think you know as couples that that was just my thing that I I came to you with last night because I knew that I am going through so many different things and I need different things and I I wanted to be able to tell you which I can which is beautiful that I can come to you and say this is what how I'm feeling what I need these are the changes going on with me because I asked you it was like do you even understand like what I'm what I'm going through like what menopause, what postmenopausal is like do you even understand it? And that was another thing we talked about because I I really feel like there's so much that information overload I'm talking about there's so I feel like there's so much like this like men should know how women are feeling they need to educate themselves on what what women are going through. And I don't and I don't disagree with that. I think that's great. A man who dives in and says I want to understand my wife better and I want to know like what she's going through with this and does some research on his own amazing and also ask her. Don't just research everything on your own. Ask her because everybody's some restrictions may apply. Yeah some everybody's um see your wife for complete details. Yes I love that that's so great on the flip side of that I don't hear very much about it being reversed where I don't really see things come across my feed now because I'm going to say this at will. Yeah but say like hey ladies do you know how to be a good wife? Do you know what your husband needs? Stop parenting your husband stop being his mom I mean I feel like there's a lot out there that's like against men to say like you need to know what women need and books written like how to how to love your wife and I just I don't feel like there's a lot of stuff out there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:00

Well there's there's no doubt the the demasculinity movement over the last decade and that's a whole nother topic that we could get into.

SPEAKER_04 26:11

But I but you're right and but I but here's the personal responsibility part which is part of my coaching framework. But the personal responsibility part let's let's take all the stuff that's going out in the world away okay because okay. The personal responsibility part is right here. It's between me and you it's not what the world is doing. It means I need to take personal responsibility for me trying to parent you and take your man card away.

SPEAKER_00 26:42

Right.

SPEAKER_04 26:42

And it so to speak I don't even know if I like that term but most men don't know how. And then same for you that you need to step up and not just be like well I'm not doing anything right or you know so I just won't do anything at all. Yeah. Yeah I just won't do anything at all. You know it's it's personal responsibility on our parts to educate ourselves to stay curious to keep learning relearning about each other as every phase.

SPEAKER_00 27:14

Communication yeah that is true I mean but that's the biggest part of the whole thing is to be able to communicate with your partner your spouse and don't you know don't not communicate for months on end.

SPEAKER_04 27:33

Yeah I also I still go back every time I hear that and we we talk about that I Dr. Lee when we met with him Dr. Lee Bacum and he talks about people will say communication is the problem or you know the root of all the problems in relationships and he was like most people know how to communicate really well like that isn't the issue. We know how to communicate we know how to say things and I still kind of go back to that I know what you're saying but it's not just like I think people can talk and talk and talk and they can communicate but are they listening to one another and accepting what's being said do they know how to communicate what they're feeling right and accepting what the other person is saying right yeah right and not taking it personally can be a lot if you're not prepared if you're not right you know in a right mind frame or yeah so I think Mike the the whole the purpose to to like you know ground or you know what it's what is it ground the plane. Ground the plane yeah get us back to is just talking about how everybody changes I hope because I mean we just really should you should be you should change people do change. Yes you and I mean it's up to you whether it's going to be for good or for not so good. Right. But you know changes are going to occur um growth is going to happen and with or without your partner.

SPEAKER_00 29:05

With or without your partner. Yes. One of you one of you is going to grow and the other one is either going to get on board or be left behind.

SPEAKER_04 29:19

Yeah and unfortunately that that really does happen a lot of things absolutely happens.

SPEAKER_00 29:23

So we're gonna we're gonna challenge you to communicate to to to check in do a check in this week with your spouse your partner your loved one and uh talk about things.

SPEAKER_04 29:34

Yeah because I think it's important I mean I I feel like and you can correct me if I'm wrong I feel like I do a very decent job of checking in with you on a consistent basis and asking you um you know what what do you need? Am I is there anything that I can do well we're like how how do I like I love the question of tell me tell me how you felt loved by me this week. I love that question. Ooh I love that question. And I don't know if you realize this but I answered that question before you even though you didn't ask ask me for it. I said to you a couple weeks ago I said do you know what made me feel really loved by you that you did the other day. Yeah you were sitting in the chair at the desk and you were like uh I think you said something and I was like no that wasn't it and you said I mean and what you said like was really good and I was like well yeah but I said no it's something else it's something that you wouldn't like you wouldn't think tell us we're all waiting so well and and and this is this is just for me you know like this might not be for someone else but you and I had like just one it was like on a Saturday or Sunday we had a day spontaneously took a day and we went and we went to the outlet mall and we don't we don't really go shopping very often no and so we went to the outlet mall and we were really there to look for some things for you and you said um and so there was then stores and you like you you in the middle of us like walking around you were like babe if there's any place you want to go into just tell me and like we'll go. And I was like okay so I started going in to some places and you were sitting out like you would sit out on the little bench and you'd be like I'm just gonna wait here take your time yep no hurry you kept telling me that and every time I'd come out be like I'm sorry and I was trying to hurt and you were like no take your time I'm totally fine. Yeah because I was already prepared for you to go into the 17 stores and look around wow just kidding no I told you that made me feel so loved and because you were so patient and you and there's a difference when someone tells you oh yeah take your time don't worry but then when you come out they're like how long did you take in there did you find everything you needed and you you never never never once because I'm easy like Sunday morning you did not you just your your feathers were not ruffled in any way shape or form and it just made me feel so loved.

SPEAKER_00 32:41

Well why should they why should my feathers be you know we wanted to go to the outlet mall you know you're gonna be walking around you know your wife is gonna go into several stores or many stores that's just the nature of it. Yeah but that doesn't mean you have to like it well okay so then don't go you know if you if you if you don't like going to the listen to you don't go you know tell her yeah here's the checkbook what if it's important to me here's the checkbook now okay grandpa hey make sure you write it to check and to the lucky bread talk about those changes and growing and growing older Chad just went from 51 to 81 let me get my pocketbook let me get my pocketbook dang it out no we're not no that stays all right bring it back full circle well okay so just asking I said that I think it's a great way to check in and ask how did you know what are what are what what's one way?

SPEAKER_04 33:51

I mean come on you don't if you can't think of three what's one way that you know I made you feel really loved this week because that's important to know and that helps with your growth as a couple.

SPEAKER_00 34:02

Yeah and I'll just let you know that the many ways that you make me feel loved is by making my lunch okay but that is borderline that's being a mama that's that's borderline parenting well babe you you you make me feel loved all the time so we're pretty safe there and we and you make me feel loved because we get to start our mornings out every morning together you know and that's one of the you know that's thank you God right for putting us where we're at we don't have to rush out the door we don't have to get to work we don't have to drop off kids I mean sometimes we have to drop off kids but we can start our morning together. Yeah you know we can give God his time give our each other our time and then we can be about our day so we're very fortunate in that aspect and a lot of people aren't like that. A lot of people are hey it's seven o'clock we're out the door you know kids need breakfast and we're doing you know 18 different things for sure but you know what I say to that because I think this is what I would tell a coaching client.

SPEAKER_04 35:07

Well I I know you then at the end of the day you figure out a time to connect.

SPEAKER_00 35:11

Yeah you have to you have to figure out some way to connect whether it be through you know yeah a phone call if you're on the road or you know find a way to be at home you know at around the dinner table and I know even that's hard for some people too so but we did we You gotta find a way to communicate.

SPEAKER_04 35:26

We did discover some things I mean talking about growth and changing and all of that we did discover some things in our conversation last night that even though it can't go back to that time or maybe that specific um situation that we were in that you know we're like oh what we like about that there were some things that we pulled out of it that we were like oh this is what we liked about this and helped us feel super connected to each other that we're gonna start doing again. Yeah. Which one of those things was we used to send each other songs all the time because we connected over music. We love music and so we would send each other songs and we were like we've gotten away from that and we need to start doing that because it's just a way to flirt and connect and so I think it's just a good conversation to have like talk to your person that you're doing relationship with and and talk about in what ways you feel like you're growing and changing so that they can understand you and then get curious about how they're growing and changing so you can understand them. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:34

So men if you've felt fallen in love with her once fall in love with her over and over whether you've been dating her for six months two years four years ten years thirty five years or sixty years fall in love with her over and over communicate find out what her needs are be intentional you know make sure you're listening with your eyes wide open. Same for ladies so ditto I think that's all we got time for today. I think it is I mean we probably could go on and on but uh we just want to thank you guys for listening to this episode of the Feathers and Grace and Armor podcast. Be sure to leave us a review check us out on socials we'd love to hear we'd love to hear your feedback on our Instagram and our Facebook page uh Gina does a good job with uh touching bass with those people that leave us messages and all that stuff but uh we're just uh very fortunate to be able to do this podcast and uh all for the glory of God.

SPEAKER_04 37:32

Amen.

SPEAKER_00 37:33

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