Kiln Conversations

AI Should Amplify Humans, Not Replace Them

Kiln Episode 7

Ryan Kohler takes us on a captivating journey from his beginnings on a dairy farm to building ApplicantPro into a powerhouse with 10,000 clients and 280 employees. With refreshing candor, he dismantles the Silicon Valley myth perpetuated by stories like "The Social Network," revealing how such overnight success narratives represent perhaps a one-in-ten-thousand chance while obscuring the thousands of failed startups we never hear about.

The conversation pivots to a revolutionary perspective on AI that challenges conventional thinking. While many approach artificial intelligence as a technology that competes with humans (thanks to the Turing test's framing), Kohler advocates for a collaborative approach where AI amplifies human capabilities rather than replacing them. "It's not to replace humans, it's to extend it in places where you couldn't afford to do it," he explains, offering examples like providing one-on-one mentorship to students when teachers can't possibly mentor 40 students around the clock.

Ryan's insights on entrepreneurship are equally refreshing – rather than building products first and hoping for customers, he recommends deeply understanding customer pain points before creating solutions. This customer-first approach significantly reduces risk and increases chances of success. He shares fascinating stories about creating AI-generated stories for children in Costa Rica and training chatbots with psychological nuance, demonstrating how AI implementation is "much more art than science." Throughout the conversation, his philosophy of generous knowledge-sharing and community-building shines through, reminding us that in rapidly evolving fields like AI, learning happens fastest when we collaborate openly.

If you're navigating the intersection of technology, entrepreneurship, or AI, this conversation offers both practical wisdom and inspiring perspective from someone who's built successful ventures by challenging conventional wisdom at every step.