Powering ProjeX: From Vision to Victory

Episode 21: Accidental Project Manager Trap: Challenges, Fairness, and Success Strategies with Erik Donert

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Ever stepped into a massive project with zero PM training, feeling like you're assembling a plane mid-flight? You're not alone! That's the wild world of the Accidental Project Manager. 

In this episode of Powering ProjeX, host DK sits down with Erik Donert, a PMO powerhouse who traded a career in finance for leading $MM+ transformations. 

Certified in PRINCE2 and SAFe, Erik shares raw stories from Australia's Royal Commission era, where SMEs like him were thrust into leadership roles overnight.

We unpack the thrills and pitfalls: imposter syndrome, stakeholder showdowns, AI ethics in projects, and why "busy" doesn't equal "effective." Erik reveals how to harness your domain expertise, build unbreakable teams, and turn "accidental" into intentional success. Plus, we explore tips for hiring managers on spotting (and supporting) these hidden gems.

If you're an operational pro eyeing a PM role, or a burnt-out accidental leader, or building a PMO that actually works, this one's your roadmap from overwhelm to outcomes.

Connect with Erik Donert on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erik-donert-b4687910a/.

Key Takeaways:

The Accidental PM Journey is Widespread and Risky. Many professionals are thrust into project leadership roles without training, especially in regulated or high-stakes industries like financial services.

Fairness and Strategy Matter - Assigning operational experts to PM roles without training is not just unfair, it’s strategically unsound.

It confuses subject matter expertise with leadership capability, creating systemic risks for organizations.

Common Pitfalls Have Real Costs - Operational: “illusion of progress” where teams look busy but deliver poorly. Financial: hidden costs of rework and poor quality. Cultural: team burnout, turnover, and loss of trust when leaders can’t protect or prioritize effectively.

Background Skills Can Be an Asset to build on-  Erik’s financial services expertise gave him transferable strengths: planning, forecasting, and asking the right questions at transition points.

This helped him build governance structures and shift teams from being task-driven to outcome-focused.

AI Projects Amplify the Challenge - Accidental PMs face extra strain in AI initiatives, where regulation lags innovation.

Balancing innovation with compliance requires cross-functional collaboration (legal, risk, compliance) and structured validation checkpoints.

Strategies for Accidental PMs- Protect your team and focus on servant leadership (echoes Lencioni’s teamwork principles).

Keep learning frameworks (Scrum, Kanban, RAID, Benefits Realisation) without becoming dogmatic.

Ruthlessly align to outcomes and shield the team from toxic discourse.

Advice for Hiring Managers - “Go slow to go fast”: give new PMs time to plan, learn, and structure execution.

Don’t assume top performers in one domain will automatically succeed as project leaders without support, mentoring, and training.

Human Impact Beyond Metrics - The most meaningful outcomes are when projects restore trust and shift teams from target-driven to purpose-driven — such as financial remediation projects after the Royal Commission. Leadership lessons often come not from success, but from setbacks where presence, empathy, and resilience mattered most.

About Our Guest: Erik Donert Erik is a transformation leader with roots in financial services. He's led multimillion-dollar programs, blending PRINCE2 precision with SAFe agility. Passionate about human-centered PM, Erik turns SMEs into change agents and chaotic "motley crews" into high-impact teams. Connect with him on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erik-donert-b4687910a/.

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