Is the Holy Spirit Guiding Your Leadership? | Allen & Stacy Jo

In Season 7, Episode 6 of Faithfully Invested with Allen & Stacy Jo, we tackle one of the most overlooked subjects in leadership today: the role of the Holy Spirit in Kingdom leadership.

Many leaders rely on:

•  Intelligence 
•  Strategy 
•  Data 
•  Experience 
•  Hustle 

But Kingdom leadership requires something deeper:
 The guidance and power of the Holy Spirit.

In this episode, Allen and Stacy Jo discuss:

•  Why the Holy Spirit is essential for lasting Kingdom impact 
•  The tension between logic and obedience 
•  How fear disguises itself as wisdom 
•  Why many leaders struggle to slow down and listen 
•  The difference between consulting God and informing God 
•  The fruit of the Spirit as a leadership culture blueprint 
•  How Spirit-led leadership builds generational legacy 

📖 Key Scriptures:

•  Acts 1:8 
•  John 16:13 
•  Galatians 5 
•  John 15 
•  2 Timothy 1:7 

This episode is a powerful reminder that:
 The Kingdom is not built by human effort alone.
 It is built through surrendered leaders empowered by the Holy Spirit.

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Transcript

Allen 0:00

Are you ready to build a life, business, and legacy that truly lasts? Welcome to Faithfully Investor with Alan and Stacey Joe Thorne. Where faith meets real talk, biblical wisdom meets everyday life, and leadership meets laughter.

Stacy Jo 0:15

Together we will uncover God's blueprint for leadership, marriage, and mission, helping faith-driven leaders invest in what matters most.

Speaker 1 0:23

Each episode we explore biblical wisdom, have real conversations, and of course, have some fun along the way. Because let's be real, walking in faith is an adventure.

Speaker 4 0:42

Because when we invest in his kingdom, he brings the increase.

Speaker 2 0:56

Do too, my love.

Speaker 4 0:58

Well, leaders who want to build something to outlive themselves all have something more than just the basic superficial stuff going on. I mean, they it's not just about talent or vision or even tenacious consistency. It's the something else that causes shift when they walk in the room. Their decisions seem to come from a place of unusual clarity and they remain calm in the chaos. You know, that's that's hard. And they just have that special something that inspires people to look higher than themselves.

Allen 1:33

Yeah, calm into chaos comes from maturity. I know the uh I know the people you're talking about. I I've I've seen the sort. And uh I know I bet I bet that you know that I know what or or who uh I should say who the special someone or special something is.

Stacy Jo 1:53

How might you know what I know that you know who I'm talking about?

Allen 1:57

Because I just know, you know, of course we're talking about the Holy Spirit. Hello, faithfully invested. I'm Alan.

Stacy Jo 2:05

And I'm Stacy Jo, and here we are in episode six of season seven, the season of Kingdom Legacy. And today we're talking about someone that doesn't get nearly enough airtime or attention and conversation about leadership, business, and building legacy. We talk a lot about strategy, vision, execution, culture, and all that matters. But today we are talking about the person who makes it all of it, kingdom ready, the Holy Spirit.

Speaker 2:37

The Holy Spirit.

Speaker 4 2:38

The Holy Spirit. Specifically, we're discussing his role in the legacy that we're building, that you're building. And I want to know, are you ready?

Speaker 2 2:47

Let's go.

Speaker 4 2:47

Let's go.

Speaker 2 2:48

So let's get started with something that that we think is a vulnerable point with a lot of leaders. Uh, most of us are trained uh to solve problems with a minds. Uh we get educated, we develop skills, we hone our expertise, uh, we enjoy really good coffee along the way.

Speaker 4 3:07

And uh does coffee have to do with it?

Speaker 2 3:10

Uh you know, what doesn't coffee have to do with it?

Speaker 4 3:14

Well, you know, I am coffing.

Speaker 2 3:16

Yeah, so we've but anyway, we've learned to navigate. As leaders, we've learned to navigate through challenges. We research, analyze, strategize, and then we execute.

Speaker 3 3:27

Yeah.

Speaker 2 3:28

And all that's good. All that's good. It's good to have God-given gifts. He He's given us an eight-pound computer in our heads for a reason, and he expects us to use it for more than just doom scrolling and ordering DoorDash.

Speaker 4 3:43

Right. Bowser's the shots fired, babe. Pew, pew, pew, pew, pew. Think about it. Anyway, it's interesting because the kingdom is not built by the sharpest mind in the room. It's built by the person most surrendered to the spirit in the room. And those two are not always the same person. In fact, sometimes the sharpest in the room is the one who's most resistant to the Holy Spirit leading because they're so accustomed to trusting their own intelligence that leaning on something that they can't fully quantify or control feels profoundly uncomfortable for them. Have you ever experienced that on that?

Speaker 2 4:21

As a guy that's been in that place, indeed. I can only really speak for myself, but I would who has it really been? And uh, you know, as a believer. So, yeah, I was as a guy that's been there. I I thought that I had all the right answers because I've collected all the data to back it up. We gotta have data. Data points are important.

Speaker 4 4:41

But just ask Veronica, that's what she's working on.

Speaker 2 4:44

That's yeah. Uh ceaselessly.

Speaker 3 4:47

Ceaselessly working.

Speaker 2 4:49

Committed and consistent.

Speaker 3 4:50

Yes.

Speaker 2 4:51

Uh, but um the data points. I uh you know, I had the data points to back it up, but the Holy Spirit was saying something different, and I'm like, but but but but but he's like I had to make a decision whose voice I was gonna trust. And I'll tell you, every time I went with my own analysis over the Holy Spirit's leading, I learned a lesson because we we gotta learn from our mistakes. And if we're not learning from our mistakes, then you know, we'll go, we'll go back and do it again.

Speaker 4 5:18

But how many times can you go around that mountain? Oh no, that's the Israelites.

Speaker 2 5:23

Right. Uh whoops has some jokes. Um if we're not learning if we're not learning through the trial, then like we said, he'll give us another opportunity to do that on down the line. But in contrast, uh the times that that I decided for obedience to the Holy Spirit, what he was saying, even when it didn't make logical sense, that reminded me that God's ways are higher and greater than our ways. That said, through obedience, his fruit was something that I that I could never have produced on my own.

Speaker 4 5:57

Yeah. And that's the sort of testimony that builds kingdom legacy. Not your strategic wins, but the wins that only the Holy Spirit could have produced. Because those are the ones people cannot explain a whiff. They can't take credit for. Those are the ones that make people lean in and ask, how did this happen? Like, how did this come to be? And the answer is always the same. But God, like, there's no other explanation for it. Our experiential testimony of his work through us is the most powerful legacy statement that we can make.

Speaker 2 6:34

Absolutely. And I would say, not not that I could ever tell you what to believe, but I would say, you know, as someone that that that has gone from would-be atheism to a uh through agnosticism to Christ followerism, I would say believe this, friends. Believe this. And if you don't believe this, you know, look into this. The Holy Spirit is emphatically more than a theological concept. He is the most essential and most frequently underutilized member of your leadership team. He is not a supplement to your strategy. The Holy Spirit is the strategy, he is your strategy, he has the right answer, he is the Holy Spirit of truth, he's the one who was said to bring you all the truth. Uh and when the and when kingdom leaders truly believe that and hold to this reality, his reality, God's reality, everything shifts toward the Father's kingdom, and that's what we're talking about. We're talking about kingdom legacy.

Speaker 4 7:38

Yeah. So let's take it to the word. You know, our first scripture is something that is clearly communicated by Jesus. Acts 1 8, our Savior King, Jesus, tells his disciples, but you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria and to the ends of the earth. So let's chew on that word power for a minute, because Jesus is talking to people who are about to go build something much greater than themselves. His power and the power of the Holy Spirit overcomes and outlasts every empire, every institution, every platform that has ever existed. And notice that Jesus did not lay out a strategic plan, but his instructions are to go and wait. Wait for the Holy Spirit. Wait for the Holy Spirit. Yeah.

Speaker 2 8:32

And he spoke to men. These men were with him over the last three years. Right. They walked with him. They witnessed his his miracles, his wonders. They learned from him. They literally took his yoke upon them. And they were there when he said, Take my yoke upon you and learn from me. They learned from him over those last three years. But it wasn't the it wasn't on that experience with him that he said, go. He said, and uh uh go and wait. It was the that experience, but it was uh and it was the knowledge that they had gained there from fishermen to disciples. But that wasn't the the the full culmination of what they needed to go where he was sending them. They had to go and wait for the power of the Holy Spirit. The power, that dunamis power, the miraculous supernatural power of the Holy Spirit. And they're like, Well, where are you going? And he's like, you know, I'm I gotta go. I gotta and this was right before his ascension, and he said, I gotta go, because if I don't go, then my father won't send the spirit. When when he sends the spirit, he sends the spirit, a truth who will bring you all the truth. And he told him, like, like you were just saying, Acts 1.8, go in the city, chill out, and wait. Wait for the power of the Holy Spirit. Go through Acts and check it out. And when they receive that power, they changed the world.

Speaker 4 10:00

Yeah, and that's not a passive, but a prioritized instruction. Jesus is saying that the power source of everything you're about to build is not your gifting, not your training, not your network of resources.

Speaker 2 10:13

Right.

Speaker 4 10:14

He says that their source is the Holy Spirit.

Speaker 2 10:17

The resource is the Holy Spirit.

Speaker 4 10:19

The resource.

Speaker 2 10:20

And if we try to build without we can try to build without that power. And we'll build something. We might even build something impressive. But but it will not be anything that witnesses to the ends of the earth. Right. They didn't do it of their own power. They did it by the power of the Holy Spirit, that dunimous power. The power, that power, his power, that miraculous supernatural power, that makes a legacy truly kingdom. Holy Spirit's power.

Speaker 4 10:51

Right on.

Speaker 2 10:52

And that's, I think, as what the kids say, and that's on period. Oh period.

Speaker 4 10:56

Yeah. And then when we leap into John 16, 13, we see Jesus explaining who the Holy Spirit is as well as his purpose. And John writes, When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears, he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. Friends, the Holy Spirit is the most extraordinary leadership resource in existence.

Speaker 3 11:24

That's right.

Speaker 4 11:25

In existence. He's a guide who knows what is coming. He's a counselor who has access to information that your best advisors and consultants will never have. He's a voice that if you learn to hear it and to trust it, it will lead you through territory your own intelligence would never navigate.

Speaker 2 11:47

Yeah. Learn to discern that voice, discern the spirit, discern the voice, and understand that it's it's it's his the voice of truth that'll lead us on the path in our law. All truth.

Speaker 4 11:59

All truth. That's right.

Speaker 2 12:00

And all means all.

Speaker 4 12:02

Yeah, in all translations.

Speaker 2 12:04

In all translations, that's it. Yeah. So but check out the intended perspective shift when we combine these two scriptures. Believe that the power of Acts, the uh Acts 1, 8, and the guidance of John 16, 13 are both available for every believer. Because they're both available for every believer. Yeah. Uh, did you know that his power and guidance are not just reserved for a special category of super spiritual leaders? They're yours. As a believer, as someone who's recognized themselves as a sinner in need of a savior, and you have trusted Jesus as your savior, and you've accepted him into your heart. And that power is yours. His power and guidance, the the Holy Spirit is with you, in you, and the power and guidance is yours just the same as any one of us. We're not special. We just believe in Christ. Believe in Christ. So, and the the challenge isn't it's not access, it's not access to the power and guidance, but it's it's attention. The challenge is attention. The challenge is slowing down enough when we're in the noise. And boy, are we in the noise?

Speaker 4 13:20

Sometimes, sometimes. More often than not.

Speaker 2 13:23

The challenge is slowing down. I tell guys, a as a safety manager and construction industry, I tell the guys we gotta s sometimes we just gotta slow down to go faster. Because if we're if we're moving too fast, we're gonna miss something or and uh we're gonna miss something. We're gonna have to go back and do it again. So we gotta slow down enough while we're in the noise. We gotta hear, but more so we gotta listen to what the Holy Spirit's saying. The challenge is building a life, uh a life and leadership practice that embraces the stillness of the Holy Spirit's voice. And we discern it as the loudest voice that we're listening to. It's not it's that's the battle. Right? The battle is belief bound allegiance. What voice are we listening to?

Speaker 4 14:05

You know, episode two of the season connects so powerfully right here. We talked about abiding, and John 15 speaks about the vine and the branches, about how fruit that remains only comes from staying connected. Holy Spirit is the life force of that connection. He is how the vine's life actually flows into the branch. So you can be connected to God in theory, you can believe all the right things about him, but if you are not actively walking and step with the Holy Spirit, the connection is not producing what it's designed to produce, and your legacy will reflect that gap.

Speaker 2 14:45

Absolutely. So what might be the struggle with Holy Spirit leadership?

Speaker 4 14:49

You can think of a few.

Speaker 2 14:51

Yeah, we got three renditions of how this particular challenge may appear uh in real time through our everyday lives. Uh the first variation that can be seen is speed.

Speaker 3 15:04

All right.

Speaker 2 15:04

Speed challenge. Ready, set, go, go, go, go.

Speaker 4 15:09

And uh I don't think we've ever struggled with the speed challenge.

Speaker 2 15:12

Yeah. Uh the uh but uh truth be told, Spirit rarely, if ever, operates on our timeline. We would be well, we do well to operate on his timeline as well. Go, go, go! It's a challenge, right? You know, especially in in leadership. And as we're tied into the ramming speed, waiting on the Holy Spirit can that's a tough one, man. It can be agonizing. And uh it's fulfilling, but you know, the waiting. You know, I I think the the uh late great theologian Tom Petty said the waiting is the hardest part.

Speaker 4 15:50

Anything I did not know he was.

Speaker 2 15:52

Hey kid, kid. Listen to saying, did he say Tom Petty? But how many, how many of y'all uh I know that oftentimes our feelings can certainly lead us astray. Uh but you know who doesn't lead us astray?

Speaker 3 16:04

It's the Holy Spirit.

Speaker 2 16:06

You know, but you know, our feeling even as our feelings lead us astray, you know what we're talking about. You have a decision to make, and and the Holy Spirit's saying, hold on, wait a minute, not yet. Whoa. He's saying whoa, and you're saying go, and and everything in you wants to push forward because you know the window's open and the momentum is there. And but the discipline, the discipline, there is a word. The discipline of actually stopping and sitting in the unknown. Oh my goodness, not the unknown. It's one of the sitting in the unknown is one of the most challenging things a type A kingdom leader can do in a day.

Speaker 4 16:46

Yeah. And what increases that challenge is when that when we listen and obey and actually pause and wait, like he said, nothing dramatic happens. That's challenging. You don't when you don't hear an audible voice or gain vision, you just wait and wait. And then at some point there is a clarity that was not there before. A piece that settles over that decision that you need to make. And looking back, you can then see the spirit's fingerprints all over it. But in the moment, it just felt like waiting.

Speaker 3 17:22

Yeah.

Speaker 4 17:22

And then and waiting is pretty darn challenging when you're a fast-paced, get it done kind of person.

Speaker 2 17:30

Yeah, and I love uh and I I'd be remiss if I didn't mention this. I love uh what our pastor uh Todd Mazenko, he's his acronym for wait is an acronym as we as we wait for the Holy Spirit, as we wait for answer to prayer, uh wait is why am I talking? Right. You know, why am I talking? Listening is the better part of communication. So it is important. So what's the second uh rendition of our our struggle here today, dating?

Speaker 4 18:01

Well, the second one I'm going to say is credibility fear. Credibility fear is the real deal for leaders, especially in professional or corporate environments. Because there's a fear that operating by the Holy Spirit's lead may make you look irrational or unprofessional. That if you tell your board, I felt the spirit leading us in this direction, they'd look at you like you have two heads. And so you translate what the spirit said in business language, you find the data that supports the direction he already gave you. And while that's not necessarily wrong, it can become a pattern of quietly hiding the actual source of your leadership from the people you are supposed to be influencing towards the gospel.

Speaker 2 18:50

Yeah, it's it's challenging in the secular community. And it's not everybody's led by the spirit. Right, for sure. Not everybody's yeah, it's it's it's challenging and it's uh but um being openly spirit led uh in the marketplace requires a certain amount of courage. And the and the more courage we put forth, the more courage we're able to put forth. And uh it's like uh yeah, let the river flow. Let that lead and water flow. But we're not talking about the courage to be weird or abandon wisdom. It's actually, you know, wisdom and discipline and wisdom come from the Holy Spirit.

Speaker 3 19:29

Right.

Speaker 2 19:29

Yeah, I mean yeah. So but uh take Daniel, for instance, he had wisdom and the capital S spirit.

Speaker 3 19:37

Yeah.

Speaker 2 19:38

But the courage to let people in your professional world know that your life and leadership are guided by something beyond yourself demands transparent vulnerability. And I would just say vulnerability is key to success in any aspect of life. A listening to and following and divulging the Holy Spirit as your source number one is one of the most powerful kingdom legacy moves that any marketplace leader will ever make. So that's our our credibility challenge, you know. And and as a Christ follower, Holy Spirit doesn't get any more credible.

Speaker 3 20:16

Right.

Speaker 2 20:17

And I'll just take you back to what Peter said. Am I gonna follow, am I gonna am I gonna listen to man or am I gonna listen to God? And you know, the Holy Spirit gets everything that he gives us from Jesus, who gets it from the Father. That's better than getting it from the CEO. I'm telling you, what is he is he your CEO? Because if he's not, uh, we would encourage you. And I've learned this the hard way. And I my days of backing down there are are over because he's leading me and he's building the courage. And the more we extend that courage and build and and build and build and build, blam. That's a good place to be. So our our third rendition is is fruit confusion. What?

Speaker 4 21:00

An apple's an apple, a pear's a pear. What's fruit confusion?

Speaker 2 21:04

Wrong fruit.

Speaker 4 21:05

Oh, you're talking about the fruit of the spirit.

Speaker 2 21:07

I'm talking about Galatians 5.

Speaker 4 21:10

Right.

Speaker 2 21:11

Galatians 5 22 tells us that the fruit of the spirit, you know, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. Most of most of the Holy Spirit's fresh off of vine fruit bare qualities that look like weakness by by the world standards. Right.

Speaker 4 21:30

I was gonna say to the world, yeah.

Speaker 2 21:32

By the world standards. So take for patience. The world says move fast or get left behind. Gentleness. The world says you gotta be tough if you're gonna lead tough people. Gentle. It works. Peace. The world says that if you're not anxious, then you're not paying attention. Okay. And the um but the the spirit produced fruit, it can feel like a liability in environments that That reward a very different set of qualities. But it's the way to go. It's the narrow path. So let us let us encourage you to not give in. Not give in to the nonsensical lie.

Speaker 4 22:13

I love that word. Nonsensical.

Speaker 2 22:15

Nonsensical. It's absolutely nonsensical. It's a lie. But remember, don't give in to the nonsensical lie. And remember that if it came from the spirit, capital S Spirit, Holy Spirit, if it came from the Holy Spirit, then it is the truth. Because he is the spirit of truth who came to bring us all the truth. And the word says all the truth.

Speaker 4 22:40

All the truth. But here's what we know experientially. The ones who carry the Holy Spirit fruit and power and their leadership are the most effective leaders that I know of. Because love, patience, kindness, and peace create an environment for people to thrive. Where creativity and loyalty run deep, people tend to stay because they want to be part of his work, even if they cannot put a finger on exactly what it is yet. And that environment that is built on his firm foundation and started right and plum from his perfect cornerstone. That produces the fruit of the spirit, which in turn produces a legacy that people want to carry forward.

Speaker 23:25

Absolutely. Yeah. Foundation and course.

Speaker 4 23:28

Right. You gotta get it straight from the beginning.

Speaker 23:30

Firm foundation, perfect course. Jesus. That's right.

Speaker 4 23:34

So let's talk about what it looks like to actually build a kingdom legacy that's genuinely spirit-led rather than just strategy driven.

Speaker 2 23:43

Yeah, first, we gotta create intentional space for the spirit to speak before we make any significant decisions. Before we make any decisions, really, we've got to yield to him. That's the the word of the century right there. Yield. All caps. We're not talking about a formula. We're not talking about your data points. We're talking about a best practice. Before significant decisions or strategic shifts, the best practice is, Lord, what do you got to say about this? Before having that difficult conversation, we gotta get before the Lord and we gotta we gotta bring the decision to him and we gotta ask the Holy Spirit to guide us with all of his truth, guide us into the truth. And then we and then we wait. And then we listen. Listening, like we said, is the better part of communication. A mentor of mine early in my walk with Jesus said, I only got two ears and one mouth for a reason so he can listen twice as much as you speak. So, but as we're waiting and as we're listening, we we don't want to just pray and then just go do what we're gonna do anyway. Right. That's not it. We we gotta make room for him. We gotta sit with him. We gotta make room for him in his divine perspective. Uh you gotta be willing for him to direct or redirect. That's gotta happen. Is he gonna are you are you gonna let him direct you? Are you gonna let him redirect you? Have you made a decision? Are you a little uneasy about that? Are you going to let the Holy Spirit redirect you? That must happen. Because you gotta remember, you know, the prophet Isaiah, you know, he didn't speak from Isaiah. He spoke from he was the mouthpiece of the Lord. He was the he was the Old Testament. He is the prophet's prophet. He was the major of the majors prophet. And he said, God said through Isaiah, my ways are higher than your ways, higher and greater than your ways. Father knows best. Right. But Father knows best. Our Creator, Father God, knows best. We gotta stop. We gotta listen intently. And I'll tell you, someone who hasn't done it and learned to do it, you're never gonna regret it.

Speaker 4 25:52

That's right. I guarantee it. And here's a practical way to know whether you're actually listening or just going through the motions. You can ask yourself, is there an answer the spirit could give you now that you'd be willing to follow, even if it cost you something? Because if the honest answer is no and you've already decided and you're just asking for a blessing, that's not Holy Spirit leadership. Bless what I already decided prayer. Yeah. The bless what I already decided prayer. And that's not the prayer that we want to pray. Real spirit-led decision making requires an openness to his divine perspective and a willingness to be redirected. Yeah. And your willingness to ask, wait, and listen, you're displaying required obedience as an act of faith and surrender. And God's gonna honor that every time.

Speaker 2 26:46

Second solution, we got we gotta develop our sensitivity to the Holy Spirit's voice by practicing obedience into small things. This is what I know. The Holy Spirit doesn't shout. He whispers, he nudges, he checks, he checks my spirit about something before uh I even know why. That's called conviction.

Speaker 3 27:07

Right?

Speaker 2 27:08

There is no condemnation for those who are in Christ, but you know, as finite human beings, there's plenty of conviction by the Holy Spirit, and it's all for our greater good and his glory. Increasing sensitivity to those nudges happens by by following them when the stakes are low in the small things. It might look like a prompting to connect with someone that you haven't talked to in a while, or checking your spirit about having a conversation that feels off, even though all the numbers line up on paper. If it looks good on paper, but hey, you're getting that thing saying out again. Right one more time. I'm telling you. There's something in there. Or maybe it's just a a quiet sense that you need to slow down, even though all the metrics say SNEDO. Everyone else around you saying, go, go, go. We gotta get it done. But uh that sense, a check. Slow down. You're gonna miss something. I got something for you here. You're gonna miss it if you all slow down. It's so important to practice these small notions. It's so important to stop and less and slow down when you feel that. And you'll find that every time uh the ability uh to hear the spirit in the small modus, and we'll then we learn to hear him in the small, then we'll learn to hear and follow him into big moments. And all of it becomes much clearer as as we continue to journey with him.

Speaker 4 28:37

Yeah. Yeah. And third, let the fruit of the spirit be the culture of your leadership. Galatians five is not just a list of personal virtues, it's a leadership culture blueprint. What would it look like if love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control were the defining qualities of your team environment? What would that look like? Because that culture, when it truly flows from the Holy Spirit's fruit rather than from management strategy, strategy, it becomes one of the most transferable things you ever will ever build. People carry it with them and they want to replicate it in their next team and build their organizations on his foundation. That is Holy Spirit fruit. That is Holy Spirit fruit producing generational legacy. And it it starts with me and you and every one of us staying connected to the vine.

Speaker 2 29:35

Right. Yeah, we don't want to dry up and burn up.

Speaker 3 29:39

That's right.

Speaker 2 29:39

Stay connected to the capital D Vine. Here is Jesus Christ. We we get that from John 15. Go check out John 15 if you want to uh uh know more about divine if you want to dig into it. But but um back to our our point here with divine, you know, moving on. Have you noticed that none of these suggestions require a certain personality type? They have to have a per you gotta have a certain spiritual gift. The uh our these suggestions that we offer here today, they they just require availability. The Holy Spirit doesn't require perfection. He is perfection, so he doesn't require perfection. But what he does is he needs your surrender. He needs surrender. It's a big deal. He needs you to be the most, not the smartest person in the room, but he needs you to be the most yielded person to his still small voice in the room, because the yielded kingdom leader is the one who walks in step with the spirit. That person is the most unstoppable force for a generational impact. These people, these people who are following the spirit, those who are yielding and waiting and listening and following, those are the ones not building from their own strength. They're building from his strength. And remember what the word says his strength, Jesus' strength, the Holy Spirit's strength, God's strength in our lives, his strength is made perfect in our weakness.

Speaker 4 31:07

Yeah. Here is your one honest inventory question to bring before the Lord. Ask him, in my leadership, am I consulting the Holy Spirit or am I informing him? Because those are two very different postures. Consulting means that you come with open hands before you decide. Informing means you come with a report after you've already decided. And the posture you would carry into your decisions is shaping the legacy that you're leaving in ways that you may not fully see yet.

Speaker 2 31:38

Yeah. Yeah, you got you can be the uh, hey, this is what I got. Or you can be, hey, what do you got?

Speaker 3 31:46

Right. Yes.

Speaker 2 31:47

So, but if you find yourself convicted by that question first, we we'd say good. Conviction's a good thing. Uh the honest answer is that you've been informing more than you've been consulting. You're not allowed. Don't spiral into guilt. Just release it. Release that self-sufficiency to him right now. Release it to him right now, friends. Believe me, he's not surprised by your self-reliance. And he is waiting patiently for you to open that door just a little wider. And when you do, and we speak from experience here, when you do, the minute that you say, Lord, I want to lead from your power in your guidance and not just my own ability, he will meet you there in that willingness, in that surrendered moment. He'll meet you there every time because that is the God we serve. That is the spirit we follow, that is the Savior who is the lamp and do our feet.

Speaker 4 32:45

That's right. So next week, episode seven, we are closing out season seven with one of the most important conversations that we have had all season. Finishing well. What does it look like to run your race all the way to the end with integrity and faith with your eyes fixed on Jesus? Because Kingdom Legacy is not just about how you start or how you build, it's about how you finish. So don't miss it. But right now, let's pray. Holy Spirit, we invite you into every dimension of our leadership right now, not as an afterthought, but as the first voice we consult and the primary God we follow. Thank you for forgiving us for the times we have trusted our own intelligence over your leading. Thank you for forgiving us for the times we moved too fast to hear you. We surrender our strategies, timelines, and our need to have all the answers. Lead us into all truth, Lord. Fill us with your fruit and let everything we build from this day forward carry your fingerprints so clearly that the people around us cannot help but look up and give glory to the Father in Jesus' name. Amen.

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Amen. Friends, until until next time, we encourage you to stay faithfully invested because when you do, God brings me in crazy. Take care. God bless you and your families.

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God bless.

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Thanks for joining us on Faithfully Invested with Alan and Stacey Joe. If today's conversation encouraged you, challenged you, or helped you see your calling more clearly, don't keep it to yourself.

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That's right. Share it with a friend, leave a five-star review, and keep leaning into God's blueprint for your life, your leadership, and your legacy. So until next time, remember when you invest in his kingdom, he brings the increase.