In the latest episode of In Conversation With, Asanti’s Emma Lauchlan hosts two industry leaders for a deep dive into the meaning of resilience - both physical and digital.

 Joining the conversation are:

• Ian Stuart, Director of Technical and Compliance at Livingston, with over 16 years’ experience at NatWest Group safeguarding critical data centre environments.
• Brett Rowe, Founder of Securus Communications, a leading UK cyber security consultancy.

 Together, they unpack:

• Why resilience is about more than redundant systems - it’s about people, training and testing.
• How “currency of competency” determines whether teams can truly respond under pressure.
• The hidden risks to resilience in supply chains, building management systems and third-party technologies.
• Why prevention, not ransom payments, is the only defence against cyber threats.
• The future of resilience as AI reshapes both attacks and defenses.

This episode offers a mix engineering expertise with cyber security insight, providing a rare 360° view of risk and resilience. For leaders managing critical systems, it’s a must-listen conversation.