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Why D&O Insurance Prices May Be on the Rise Again

Joshua Wilson

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In this episode of The SPAC Podcast, we sit down with Chaz Churchwell, Founder & Principal of Churchwell Insurance Agency, to discuss the shifting landscape of public Directors & Officers (D&O) insurance. With nearly two decades in the insurance industry and a reputation for guiding clients through complex coverage needs, Chaz shares why current D&O pricing levels may not be sustainable — and what market forces could be pushing costs upward.

From the role of reinsurance companies like Trans Re, to recent exits from the public D&O market, Chaz unpacks the financial realities facing insurers. He explains how profitability challenges, competition changes, and industry consolidations could influence pricing trends in the months ahead. Whether you’re a corporate executive, insurance professional, or capital markets participant, this conversation delivers valuable context in clear, straightforward terms.

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Mike (00:00): Do you think D&O insurance prices will stay low?

Chaz (00:03): No. Functionally, they can't. You've got a company called Trans Re, and Trans Re is a reinsurance company. Reinsurance companies are insurance companies that insurance companies buy insurance from. Basically, they're saying, "We're willing to take on this much risk, but anything beyond that, we want another insurance company to backstop everything so we don't have to keep a truckload of cash and capital." We can have insurance backstop some of that so we can keep more of our capital invested and making money for us.

Trans Re posted something about a month ago that shook the industry a little bit. They came out and said public D&O insurance is not profitable right now for most companies, and it's not profitable for the reinsurers. They expect that pricing has flattened and will need to increase to reach profitability. Some companies are already exiting the public D&O market. For example, Argo jumped ship on public D&O a couple of months ago. They’re the first, but they won’t be the last.

As competition declines and more acquisitions consolidate the market, we are likely to return to a place where D&O insurers can get profitable again.