Greenlights | Episode 12

WARNING: THIS PODCAST HAS SPOILERS

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This week we dive into Greenlights by Matthew McConaughey...

...a wild mix of memoir, life lessons, and straight-up chaos. From outrageous Hollywood stories to deep reflections on purpose, discipline, and mindset… this book hits different.

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SPEAKER_03 0:00

Hello, check, check. Oh, see, I still see my I still see me on that side. Okay, that's fine. I'm gonna go a little bit lower on the audio recording. Okay. Because I was picking up a lot on yours last time and it kind of made for an echo that I didn't want to deal with. So um also before we start, do you mind looking at the camera and doing something for the thumbnail? We can also do it at the end, so let's do one before and after. I'm gonna be like Because then we're gonna make him look like he's teaching us something.

SPEAKER_02 0:58

Maybe.

SPEAKER_03 0:59

We'll see which one works. All right. Green lights? What is a green light? Ha ready?

SPEAKER_00 1:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:10

Okay. Hi, boo.

SPEAKER_00 1:13

Hey, boo.

SPEAKER_03 1:17

Hello, everybody else. We are gonna keep it easy this week. Today is St. Patrick's Day. Yes. So we are uh just gonna briefly touch on the beer real quick. We are gonna be drinking Guinness uh from the can, not draft. Draft would be really nice, but we are doing from the can.

SPEAKER_00 1:35

Fresh would be nice, fresh would be super nice. We had an Ireland, so good.

SPEAKER_03 1:40

It was such a fun trip. And then going to Guinness was really cool, and then drinking it straight from Guinness was really cool. And then we had our our pitcher put on a Guinness uh the head of a beer. Yeah, that was really cool. Um, so everybody mostly knows what Guinness is. It is a stout um brood in Ireland. Um, not much to say about it. This one does have a nitrogen ball, so when you pop it open, it releases nitrogen.

SPEAKER_00 2:08

Like botting tins.

SPEAKER_03 2:09

Like botting tins. So instead of being uh carbonated with CO2, well, it is carbonated, but without they add the nitrogen to make it smoother. So uh when it's put into the when you when you crack it, it releases that and you pour it, it cascades. It's just very smooth, almost like a cascale. And that's why whenever you pour Aginis, you always like pull it forward, push it back, do certain things. Yep, let it sit. So uh we're gonna just jump into this. Cheers to St. Patrick's Debut.

SPEAKER_00 2:37

Cheers. We didn't split the G.

SPEAKER_03 2:43

Oh no. No, I'm drink actually drinking out of the 2025 Georgia Beer Day glass. It's actually a pretty fire glass.

SPEAKER_00 2:53

Um, and I'm doing sweetwater 420s glass.

SPEAKER_03 2:56

That's the G13.

SPEAKER_00 2:57

G13.

SPEAKER_03 2:58

G13 was the fire beer. Yeah. Somebody would crack it open in my in my kitchen. We were together, it would be you. You were the somebody. But somebody would crack it open in the kitchen. I'd walk in and be like, whoo, who's smoking that stuff in my house? But G13. The green, the green lettuce. Lettuce is green, boo. It's the devil's lettuce. Oh. Okay. Well, let's get into it. So this week I'm super excited. We're doing Green Lights by Matthew McConhey.

SPEAKER_00 3:27

Can I see what it's about?

SPEAKER_03 3:29

You sure can.

SPEAKER_00 3:30

It's a love letter to life, page seven.

SPEAKER_03 3:34

Seven.

SPEAKER_00 3:35

Seven.

SPEAKER_03 3:36

Sorry.

SPEAKER_00 3:37

Okay. So it is not an advice book, it's a memoir book, but an approach or playbook book. Aka a love letter to life.

SPEAKER_03 3:48

It's a love letter to life.

SPEAKER_00 3:50

Yes. Now you ready to hear the word of the week?

SPEAKER_03 3:53

I am.

SPEAKER_00 3:53

I don't even know how to say it, so I had to look up the pronunciation.

SPEAKER_03 3:56

Okay, so you're learning something too. I like it.

SPEAKER_00 3:58

Yeah, I've never heard of this word before. And um it fits me perfectly.

SPEAKER_03 4:07

Nerd.

SPEAKER_00 4:08

Okay, you ready? It's gonna be very slow. Libro cubic culist. It's Libro cubicularist. L I B R O C U B I U L A R I S T.

SPEAKER_03 4:30

Okay. I lost you after like the It's a long one.

SPEAKER_00 4:34

It's basically someone who reads in bed. Oh, wow. There's a word for you guys? I guess so. He.

SPEAKER_03 4:42

Okay, well, that that one's gonna be pretty hard to try to use today's episode. Cool. Uh until I say the that you're a liner nurserus because you finished or you read a lot of this book in bed.

SPEAKER_00 4:56

Yeah, I did.

SPEAKER_03 4:57

Yeah, so you're a liner surgeon.

SPEAKER_00 4:58

I was cuddled up with animals in a big cozy blanket. You're just like, Yeah, cool.

SPEAKER_03 5:05

Okay. I like it.

SPEAKER_00 5:06

Good story.

SPEAKER_03 5:07

Great story. Okay, cool. Well, um, I want to hear your notes. I want to hear what you thought about it because obviously I have read this one before. Or sorry, I was read. I hate when people say that. I have listened to this one before, and that's the reason that we picked it. So I want to know your thoughts, but I also wanted to let you everybody know, you and everybody, my outfit today. I'm trying to channel my inner Matthew McConaughey. Because I feel like he would wear a headband, and he just goes with the flow, man, you know? So like you know, this is just chill. I'm also channeling my inner Sonny from Best Ever Food Review show. Oh, he's the best. Love that show. Yeah. Um, but okay, cool. So now tell us.

SPEAKER_00 5:51

I'm glad I read it.

SPEAKER_03 5:52

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 5:54

I like Charlemagne's book better. Okay. Way better. Okay. I was entertained by this, but at the beginning I thought he was rambling a lot.

SPEAKER_03 6:10

Yeah, you told me that when you started it. And I was like, what are you talking about?

SPEAKER_00 6:14

And then it it got more into his stories, and I was like, oh, this isn't bad. And then back to rambling, and then back to oh, this isn't bad, and then back to rambling, and I was like, Oh gosh. It's understandable.

SPEAKER_03 6:30

I mean, I totally felt that way about the Pride and Prejudice. Like I was like, they're like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We dance, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So I I understand.

SPEAKER_00 6:39

Yeah. And I could read it in his voice, and so we've seen like he's a celebrity. We know what he sounds like and stuff. Um, but understandable. I I liked Charlemagne's a lot better.

unknown 6:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 6:55

Well, then I will definitely take this episode over and go over my stuff. Do you have anything that you I have highlighted parts? Do you want me to go over my parts and then you chime in, or do you want to tell me like some highlights that you have or any key points that stood out to you?

SPEAKER_02 7:10

I'll chime in. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 7:12

Well, then I'm just gonna break it down. He had eight parts in it, kind of like Charlemagne's, right?

SPEAKER_00 7:18

Yes, but he also had a new PS in this book that I don't think you had on your audiobook.

SPEAKER_03 7:25

Uh oh, what's it oh what's a PS? Oh, a new PS. Like a oh no, no, I did have the PS. Oh, okay. It was it was recorded years later, I do believe. Or it was probably written in that one. Uh in this one, sorry. Yeah, fucking your book. Um, yeah, I do believe that I had that because I had the afterword, and then I had something else after. Okay. So we probably had that. But okay, cool. Well, this was Matthew McConnell's green lights. Uh, eight, I guess, eight things about life.

SPEAKER_00 7:56

He had eight parts.

SPEAKER_03 7:57

Eight parts. Okay. Uh, what would you call the parts? Not chapters, but were they like tenets to life? What were they?

SPEAKER_00 8:05

Ideas based off of lived experience.

SPEAKER_03 8:08

Okay, so he has eight ideas based off of lived experience that will hopefully help people live a better life. Um, I don't have them written down, like I have part one, part two, part three. So when I say the parts, you can tell us what they are. Is that okay? Okay, so first off, we need to go over what is a green light. So in the very beginning, uh it says, Green lights, uh, they I'm not reading it verbatim. This is just kind of like my my my synopsis. Uh, what is a green light? It tells us to keep going in our lives. They're the things that tell us to keep going. Uh, we love green lights. We could be responsible for our own green lights by the choices we make. Green lights are always about timing. When you hit yellow or reds, you can uh persist, pivot, or concede. And I that that really stood out because there's multiple things in there. Like you can make your own green lights, green lights can happen to you, and then whenever you hit things that aren't green lights, things that slow you down that are greens or sorry, uh yellows and reds, they turn into green lights, but you can also, you know, you you can choose. So you can keep going, you can pivot, you can try something different until it turns to a green light, or you can see it, and you can just say, Okay, cool. Well, this red light has me. Um, so that just stood out to me. That's just kind of like what the green light is. Yes. So that was the very first thing before any parts. Do you have anything for that?

SPEAKER_00 9:38

No, I just wrote it down. It's he's like, it means go, proceed, and affirmation of our way. Res and then these are the words that were highlighted are um responsible, fate, relative, inevitable, persist, pivot, and concede.

SPEAKER_03 9:57

Yep. I like it.

SPEAKER_00 10:01

Like I said, he rambled, but it got the point across.

SPEAKER_03 10:05

I I really enjoy so for me, since I don't read them, and I've said this almost every episode, I like listening to it because well, especially whenever it's somebody that reads it. So, like for Charlemagne love that because Charlemagne read it.

SPEAKER_00 10:20

And then Matthew McConaughey has a great voice, so I'm sure that sounded great. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:24

And then just hearing what he has to say. So he's like, What is a green lot? I mean, I can't even do it. I tried to did a lot, I tried to do that. I tried to do it last time too.

SPEAKER_00 10:32

We'll say his life was crazy, and then he did some things that we've always talked about doing, so but we'll get into that.

SPEAKER_03 10:40

Like rafting down the Amazon. No, like uh yeah, we've never talked about that. We're not crazy.

SPEAKER_00 10:46

Like RV and with Miss Hood around the world or around the US.

SPEAKER_03 10:50

Yeah, stuff like that. When I first listened to this, it wasn't because I'm a huge Matthew McConaughey fan. It was because it was a, oh, he's someone that's famous. I've seen him in movies. I think he's a good actor, but I not my favorite or anything. But I I was interested in uh, you know, I like this type of book. They're kind of like, this is what I've learned, take notes for me type thing. So um I learned a lot about his life because I I knew that he did the romantic comedies, the rom-coms, and then I knew he went on to do different movies after that, but I couldn't really name a lot of them.

SPEAKER_01 11:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:28

So to hear the backstory, um, starting with the first movie being um what are you about to say it?

unknown 11:38

I just forgot.

SPEAKER_03 11:39

Oh no. I think it's was it Fear and Loathing. Fast time at Ridgemont High, I think, or something. No, not Fear and Loathing.

SPEAKER_00 11:49

He had the little car scene, right?

SPEAKER_03 11:52

I don't know. Did you write it down? The first one that he had a line in then is the one where he was like, Yeah, I wrote it out. Right, all right, alright, or whatever. And then the best part about high school girls is I they I get older, they say the same age. Was that Fast Times? I mean, we just finished this, so we should know. But I learned so much. What was that? Oh, here's the age 12 thing. I love that too. So that's page 15. I gotta come back to that.

SPEAKER_00 12:25

Dazed and confused, page 105.

SPEAKER_03 12:27

Dazed and confused, 105. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 12:29

So not fear and loathing.

SPEAKER_03 12:30

Not fear and loathing. I don't know where that came from.

SPEAKER_00 12:33

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 12:34

He had the car scene where he pulls up.

SPEAKER_00 12:36

All right, all right, all right.

SPEAKER_03 12:37

He had that, yeah. Yeah. Um, but yeah, so like I learned a lot. Like I knew about that movie. I didn't know that was his first lines or whatever in a movie. It was just really cool. Okay, so part one.

SPEAKER_00 12:50

It is Outlaw Logic, aka he came from the line of rule breakers.

unknown 12:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 12:59

So I only have one point out of this whole part. Really good stuff in there. I recommend everybody listen to it. But my thing that I got at was earn your Saturdays.

SPEAKER_01 13:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:08

Because I've lived off that for a while. It's like, you know, you you need to work hard in life. This is my personal opinion. You need to work hard in life to earn your weekends, earn your evenings. I don't like excuses. Now, if it's a good excuse, or not even excuse, like if it's a if it's a valid point, fine, do whatever. But like if you're just like, oh, well, I can't do that now because blah blah, but like, work, get it done. So that way when you do relax, you're not thinking about what you didn't do. And uh for me, I kind of get anxious, I guess, whenever I have things over my head that I haven't completed and I'm relaxing.

SPEAKER_01 13:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:50

So if I didn't earn my Saturday, technically, and I'm doing something that I shouldn't be doing, but it's like, oh, well, I earned it, but I know deep down I didn't, I feel weird and I'm just like, oh, I need to go do that thing. So that's why I work so much. I mean, you know, I work a lot, and like there's so much to do, you know, but I also like to play hard. Like I like to relax and you know take time off sometimes, but earn your Saturdays. Don't just, oh well, I I worked, I mean, it's different for everybody, so this is just me.

SPEAKER_01 14:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:23

But oh, I worked 30 something hours. I earned this, and it's like, okay, cool. But like, are you doing what you want to do? Like, why don't you take the extra time to go do what you not even do what you want to do, but like work-wise and stuff. Like, build, are you building what you want to build? Are you where you are, where you want to be? There's things over your head. I don't know. That's just me. So, like, uh like get everything done, just get it done.

SPEAKER_00 14:51

Or you could be like, because he goes through a lot of like his growing up and how his dad and mom were. That's what I took from it. But like, yeah his older brothers basically followed his dad's footsteps at the beginning of selling pipe. And then I got out of it the how his dad initiated them into manhood. Like, that was very interesting to read. Yeah. Like fighting the first son. What did the second? Oh, a peeing contest with the second son, and then we don't get Matthew McConaughey's.

SPEAKER_03 15:30

Until way, way later, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:32

Yeah, it was a bar fight basically.

SPEAKER_03 15:34

Well, was there anything in part one that you took that you could apply to your life? Any of the bumper stickers, any of the prescribes, or no, I found more stuff in other parts.

SPEAKER_00 15:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 15:50

So that was, I mean, like I said, that was the only thing out of there because he did get a lot of a lot of the backstory, which is cool.

SPEAKER_00 15:56

Uh, part two is Find your Part two is find your frequency.

SPEAKER_03 16:04

So I have a few things out of this. So get rid of who you're not, and you'll find who you are. Knowing who we are is hard, knowing who you're not is easy. So that's on page 64, because you allowed me to look through the book and review my notes. So now I got page numbers, people. So page 64, uh, he goes over that, and that kind of hit me because it's you like to think about I don't know who who you want to be.

SPEAKER_00 16:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:35

And you work towards it, but sometimes who you want to be isn't who you are really.

SPEAKER_00 16:40

Yep. It's a hard lesson.

SPEAKER_03 16:42

So really knowing who you are, who knowing who you are is hard, but knowing who you aren't is easy. Like, you know, sometimes you try to fake it till you make it, but then you realize that you're just faking it for no reason. And uh, I don't know, it's just like I like that part.

SPEAKER_00 16:58

Well, the example he used is he had a truck and he used to hustle in his words to get the attention from the girls to hang out with friends. He'd go mudding right after school.

SPEAKER_03 17:11

Yeah, take the girls mud in.

SPEAKER_00 17:13

But then he traded his truck in for a red sports car, and then all he would do is park that so it wouldn't get scratched, lean up against it, thinking people were gonna come to him. Yep. And then he realized having that red sports car made me lazy. Yep. And I wasn't a hustler anymore. And the girls would go mudding with the guys with the truck still and be like, so he sold that back, got his truck back, and then it went back to normal because he went right back to hustling.

SPEAKER_03 17:38

Yep. That's a that's a great example. That's a good babe. Good job, boo.

SPEAKER_00 17:44

You did a snail me. No, of course not. We're on air. This is snail. Snail.

SPEAKER_03 17:49

Oh, you gotta do it the other way.

SPEAKER_00 17:51

Snail.

SPEAKER_03 17:53

You gotta let the camera see it. Uh no, that yeah, that's exactly how he described it. So that he thought he was gonna try to be somebody different because he was already cool, he was already doing his thing, and then, oh, let me try to be this guy, or like, you know, that's who I think I want to be. Yeah, but it wasn't who he was. It's not who he was. So um that part really stood out to me, especially with that that story. Um, I like what he says about when he says prescribe, um he says, uh, it's kind of like just part of it. Uh, life's hard. Stuff happens, and we make stuff happen. And I put find that. I didn't find that when I looked. So uh, but he he brings that up, just pretty much, you know, things life's hard. Things are gonna happen, but we can also make things happen, and you just gotta keep rolling with the punches, just like everybody in life. We just gotta roll with the punches.

SPEAKER_00 18:49

Uh I think the biggest part from this part for me was stick to who you are and your morals and how you were raised. Yeah. If it fits with your identity, because he was did a year abroad in Australia.

SPEAKER_03 19:07

That was a great chapter.

SPEAKER_00 19:11

Basically, the host family he was staying staying with, everyone knew they were crazy except for him. He stayed sick about six months before them. Yeah, before he would, he was like, Okay, I gotta leave. And then he jumped from house to house and it was great.

SPEAKER_03 19:27

But um And all the other homes knew that. Like it was I love the part when they were like, wait, you guys knew I mean he uses profanity, but he was like, You guys knew they were crazy? And they're like, Yeah, mate.

SPEAKER_00 19:38

Yeah, and then they all just laughed at him. Oh, that's great. But the thing about that is when they said we decided you're gonna call us mom and pop, or whatever they said, Mom and Dad, Mom and Dad. And he he was like, No, I have a mom and dad. And that kind of shook politely, respectfully.

SPEAKER_03 19:55

Yeah, that I have a dad. I have a mom.

SPEAKER_00 19:57

Yeah, and that whole situation shook his identity. And then that was him saying, No, the anchor to my identity is my real mom and dad. Um, just like the titles that he had in high school, his girlfriend, his family, his truck. Those were his anchors, and so that year forced him to look on on into himself for his identity and to find out who he is, or as it is titled, to find his own frequency.

SPEAKER_03 20:36

That's a good way to pull it back to that. I wonder where excuse me. I wonder where he would be or what he would be doing if he didn't go on that study abroad.

SPEAKER_00 20:49

He probably would have been a kid a lot less mature for a lot longer.

SPEAKER_03 20:58

Yeah, wonder if he would have gotten the roles because obviously every every choice that he made up into that point of getting his first acting thing got him to the point of getting his first acting thing.

SPEAKER_01 21:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:10

So any point that you know, every decision we've ever made got us up to the point of recording right now. Yeah. Um, so I wonder if he didn't make the decision to go to Australia if things would be different.

SPEAKER_00 21:22

Yeah. You'll never know, but I'm just curious.

SPEAKER_03 21:25

Something to think about.

SPEAKER_00 21:26

It helped shape him for sure. Yeah. And then when he got back, that's when his initiation with his dad happened. And basically he fought a bouncer protecting his dad's honor.

SPEAKER_03 21:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:37

At a bar.

SPEAKER_03 21:39

Um, cool.

SPEAKER_00 21:40

Well, then part three is dirt roads and autobonds. Dirt roads and autobonds.

SPEAKER_03 21:47

Um, so on page ninety six, I'm gonna pull some stuff up real quick.

SPEAKER_00 21:53

You did a lot more prep with the pages this time than me.

SPEAKER_03 21:56

Well, I did because he also had boo.

SPEAKER_00 21:58

He I

SPEAKER_03 22:00

I listened and then I just had each part and I was like, okay, well, I like this part. And then after this, he says this. So I could just flip through each part and pull out and get page numbers. Yeah. Because you always had page numbers.

SPEAKER_00 22:10

I felt I have some.

SPEAKER_03 22:12

I call you peanut butter because I was jelly. You had page numbers and I didn't. Okay, 96.

SPEAKER_00 22:28

So Oh, is this the writing thing?

SPEAKER_03 22:35

Oh no. Here, let me go back to the writing thing because that is on page 15. So that's way back.

SPEAKER_00 22:40

Oh, so that was part one.

SPEAKER_03 22:41

Oh, sorry. It wasn't even part one. I think it was right before part one. It was the introduction. So in the very beginning of this, he just has something that is. It says, this is a poem he wrote. So I'm going to read it. It says, if all that I would want to do would be to sit and talk to you, would you listen? Matthew McConaughey, age 12. And when you first see it and you first hear it, you're like, wow.

SPEAKER_00 23:12

Well he could write.

SPEAKER_03 23:13

He was deep as yeah, he was deep for a 12-year-old. And then later on you realize you read or you listen to that. He entered that into, I think it's the poem competition or something in middle school.

SPEAKER_00 23:26

It was in school.

SPEAKER_03 23:27

And uh he said his mom told him to do it, and it was somebody else that wrote it. And she was like, Well, if it means something to you, it's yours, Matthew.

SPEAKER_00 23:35

So aka plagiarize. And uh which is a big no-no, but shh.

SPEAKER_03 23:41

Yeah. But I do like that.

SPEAKER_00 23:43

I like what that I like I like that I like how she was like, take life by the balls and just make it yours, basically.

SPEAKER_03 23:51

Well, that part, don't plagiarize. But yes. Yeah, don't plagiarize it. So let's see. Biology and gidea, DNA and work, genetics and willpower. Life's a combination. Some get the genes, but never the work ethic or resilience. Others work their ass off, but never had the intimate or sorry, innate ability. Others worked their ass off, but never have the innate had. Others worked their ass off, but never had the innate ability. Others have both and never rely on the first. I don't know. I thought that was pretty cool because everybody's built different. So no matter if you just have that drive for it, or you have to work for it, or if you're naturally talented, it's different for everybody. And you need to uh you everybody should just realize that. I like that part. That just stood out to me. So that's why I wanted to talk about that. Uh also in part three, he says, Don't bite your nails. And that stood out to me because boo right here bites her nails.

SPEAKER_00 24:59

So it's a nervous habit.

SPEAKER_03 25:01

Trying to get her to stop biting her nails. Um, the bumper sticker on page 98. Pull that up. Pretty much he just says, I'll take a little common sense with the knowledge or with that knowledge. A lot of people have a lot of knowledge, but no common sense. Boo, don't say that about yourself. Uh wait, these are just things that stuck out to me, people. These aren't.

SPEAKER_00 25:25

I have no common sense.

SPEAKER_03 25:27

You have m some knowledge, but not much common sense.

SPEAKER_00 25:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:34

I'm just joking. You are a lip major somehow.

SPEAKER_00 25:37

So I'm just joking, boo. That doesn't mean I have to talk right all the time.

SPEAKER_03 25:42

It's jokes.

SPEAKER_00 25:43

It's comedy.

SPEAKER_03 25:44

Um the let's see, page 103. This is all part three still. 103. Get right here. Still recording on the show. So this is the note to self after the bar story. We are not here to tolerate our differences. We are not here to accept them. We are not here to celebrate our sameness. We are not here to salute our distinctions. We are not born into equal circumstances or with equal abilities, but we should have equal opportunity. As individuals, we unite in our values. Celebrate that. And that almost goes back to that first part that I read, just about how you know everybody celebrate your differences. Um, so I like how he wrote that.

SPEAKER_01 26:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:46

I think all of the stuff in here is really cool. If I'm just fanboying out right now, I'm so sorry. But uh, I just think everybody should read it. Everybody should read this. Green lights, Matthew McConnell. Uh, let's move on to part four. Oh, okay, sorry. I'm just trying to steamroll through my bad. I need a sip anyway. Okay, talk boob.

SPEAKER_00 27:05

I like that it was called Dart Roads and Audubon's because um he basically grew up in the country and then he ended up on the Audubon, on the Audubon, on a motorcycle, traveling through Europe in this part. So I really liked that. But what really stuck out to me and that said a lot about his character as a person that I actually really liked. Like, really, really liked. For college, he wanted to go to a more expensive school. And his dad, his dad was like, Are you sure? Are you sure? I think you should be a what was it, a longhorn. I think you should be a longhorn. And Matthews just over here thinking that oh, my dad wants me to go to the same school he went to, blah, blah, blah. And then he gets a call from I think his brother Pat. Was it Pat or Rooster?

SPEAKER_03 28:03

One of his brothers, I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_00 28:04

I think I think it was Pat, and he's like, Hey little brother, or hey big brother.

SPEAKER_03 28:09

You know what's going on?

SPEAKER_00 28:11

There are financial issues with his dad's business. And then the next few days, he called his dad back. Hey dad, actually, you're right. I think I want to be a longhorn. And he's like, Really? Like his dad was super excited.

SPEAKER_02 28:25

Um, I knew it, son. I knew you want to be I knew you'd want to be a long horn.

SPEAKER_00 28:31

He did it because of financial reasons, and he didn't let his dad knew he knew about it.

SPEAKER_03 28:38

Well, what's really funny or not funny, but if you think about it long term, Matthew McConaughey, you'll see him on the Longhorn sideline for college football games quite a bit because he still lives in Austin sometimes, I think. I'm sure he has multiple houses, but like that so him choosing to go there shaped who he became in the future, too.

SPEAKER_00 29:01

Yeah, and then he's still committed to it today, which is awesome. Yep. But another thing about this is this is when he went to school to be a lawyer, and then it was his saw at the end of his sophomore year. He's like, he read a book, uh, The Greatest Salesman in the World. Um, I've never read that before, I don't even know what it's about. But it clicks something. We should read it. Yeah, it clicks something in his head. You're the greatest and he called his dad. He's like, I think I want to go to film school. And his he was terrified his dad would be so mad at him. But his dad said, in quotes, don't half assets.

SPEAKER_03 29:37

Yep. I just saw that bar, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:40

Even though in most of this book, you hear these stories of his dad being like, kind of a scary man, but he had values and he had convictions, and he really did support his kids, even though he went about it a weird way sometimes. Yeah. And then that's when he got his first role. Uh, it was just basically a few lines in Dazed and Confused, and then his character Wooderson was inspired by Pat.

SPEAKER_03 30:11

Can I can I quickly interrupt? Going back to that part about when he says when he this is when he's talking to his dad about uh I want to go to film school or whatever or acting school. Um I'm just gonna quickly read it because that goes into why he said biology and gide up, DNA and work, the part that I brought up. Yeah. Um, because his dad and him are built differently.

SPEAKER_00 30:34

But so much the same as a big so much the same.

SPEAKER_03 30:37

So you need to respect, hey, it's the DNA versus the gide up. You need a combination type thing. So he says, uh, blah, blah, blah. I want to go to film school. Dad answered, hey pop. I said, Hey little buddy, what's going on? He asked. Another deep breath. Well, I want to share something with you. What's that? Oh shit. We'll blink that. Well, I don't want to go to law school anymore. I want to go to film school. Flip the page. Silence. One. Two three four? Five seconds. Then I heard a voice. A kind of a kind, inquisitive voice. Is that what you really want to do?

SPEAKER_02 31:29

He asked.

SPEAKER_03 31:29

Yes, sir, Dad. It is. Silence, another five seconds. Well, don't half ass it. Of all the things my dad could have said, of all the reactions he could have had, don't half ass it were the last words I expected to hear, and the best words he could have ever said it to me. With those words, not only did he give me his blessing and consent, he gave me his approval and validation. It's what he said and how he said it. He only gave he not only gave me privilege, he gave me honor, freedom, and responsibility with formidable rocket fuel. Formidable. Look at me getting words right. Formidable rocket fuel in his delivery. We made a pack that day. Thanks, Pop. Green light. Then it goes on to say biology and gide DNA and work, genetics and willpower, life's a combination. Some get the genes, but never the work ethic or resilience. Others work their ass off, but never had the innate ability. Others have both and never rely on the first. So I like how you were saying that about that because I was like, oh, I know exactly what page you're talking about. So that was a little side note. So back to what you were saying, sorry.

SPEAKER_01 32:48

You're good.

SPEAKER_03 32:50

I'm trying to channel my inner Matthew McConaughey.

SPEAKER_00 32:54

Well, after that, he channeled his first ever Matthew McConaughey role and got that the Wooderson character in Dazed and Confused. And then he was like, How would this character be? And then he he thought of his brother leaning up against the building, smoking a cigarette in high school. And he he was like, His mom couldn't find him. And he's like, Oh, oh, you saw him, you saw him? And he's like, No, no, ma'am. Yeah, I didn't see him because he knew his brother would get in trouble for smoking cigarettes.

SPEAKER_03 33:25

I wrote that page down. Sorry, I didn't write the page down. I wrote down to look up that page and I couldn't find that part in the book because page 105. 105. I like the way he described it. Because I totally picture just the boop, lean back, foot back, chilling, looking cool, you know. You're like, oh wow, especially back in the day like that.

SPEAKER_00 33:45

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:46

That was it just made me think of almost like a movie or something.

SPEAKER_00 33:49

Well, that's what inspired his portrayal of Woodard. Yeah. Wooderson. Um. Oh, here it is. Where is he? asked mom, turning my head to look left and right, and then back out the window. I saw him about a hundred yards behind us, leaning against the brick wall in the shade of the school smoking section. One D bent, boot sole against the side of the building, pulling on a Marlborough.

SPEAKER_01 34:19

Marlborough.

SPEAKER_00 34:20

I can never say that. Cooler than James Dean and two feet taller.

SPEAKER_03 34:25

There Cooler than James Dean and two feet taller.

SPEAKER_00 34:27

Yeah. There I started to shriek and then caught my tongue because I realized he'd get in trouble for smoking. What's that? Mom asked. Nothing, mom, nothing. That image of my big brother leaning against that wall, casually smoking that cigarette in his elbow, low elbow, loose wrist, lazy fingered way through my romantic eleven-year-old little brother eyes was the eptima eptimum of cool. He was literally ten feet tall.

SPEAKER_03 34:57

Eptimum?

unknown 34:59

Epitome.

SPEAKER_03 35:01

Epitome?

SPEAKER_00 35:02

Thank you. No.

SPEAKER_03 35:04

I don't know. I don't know what an eptimone is.

SPEAKER_00 35:07

I don't know what a was the epitome of cool. Wow.

SPEAKER_03 35:15

Eptimum.

SPEAKER_00 35:17

Words. Eptimum. Epitome of cool. He was he was literally ten feet tall. It left an engraved impression on my heart and mind. And eleven years later, Wooderson was born from that impression.

SPEAKER_03 35:39

Okay. I love it. I love it. I just I just figured something out. Boo. Back away from the mic if you're gonna caggle.

SPEAKER_02 35:58

Edimum. Epitomy.

SPEAKER_01 36:03

Epitome.

SPEAKER_03 36:06

Okay, while you're catching your breath, I'm gonna explain what I just figured out.

SPEAKER_02 36:13

I just figured out that earlier I said you have the English degree somehow. And you were like, hey, eptimum.

SPEAKER_01 36:46

Pitamine. Okay, okay, go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 36:56

We can take a break if you want to take a break. If you need to take a sec. I have a Guinness skin to you, baby.

SPEAKER_00 37:03

Oh my gosh. I'm crying.

SPEAKER_02 37:06

I see that.

SPEAKER_00 37:07

That was so funny.

SPEAKER_02 37:11

I have a really good point I'm trying to make, and you're gonna be here crying.

SPEAKER_01 37:16

I'm sorry. Okay, keep what's your point?

SPEAKER_02 37:18

Okay. What's your point? Onward, go onward.

SPEAKER_01 37:22

Onward. Onward.

SPEAKER_03 37:24

Um you say that he rambles, right?

SPEAKER_00 37:32

Not there.

SPEAKER_03 37:33

See, I don't there.

SPEAKER_00 37:34

Well, it gets he rambles and then he gets good.

SPEAKER_03 37:37

Right.

SPEAKER_00 37:38

And then he rambles. I think he rambles when he's trying to get his point across.

SPEAKER_03 37:42

I was about to say, I think that maybe what I like is the rambles because last week I said, ooh, when you say, Hey Matthew, how you doing today? And he's like, Oh, I'm great. I woke up and the sun was over the right western hemisphere and it was coming over my feet. They were bare naked in the grass. And you're like, you know, that's rambling, just to be like, I'm good.

SPEAKER_00 38:01

It's artistic, though.

SPEAKER_03 38:02

It's artistic. And I think that's what I like. So when you called it rambling, I was kind of like, not offended, because who cares? It's just a book. But when you're like he's rambling, I'm like, no, he's not. You just you're not reading it right. So him saying that, the right foot on there, cooler than James Dean and two feet tall.

SPEAKER_00 38:22

He was describing how his brother was standing. That's normal.

SPEAKER_03 38:26

You could also say that's rambling, because you could just say he's standing right there smoking a cigarette. But no, he went into just he described, and that's how he talks. That's how he talks, at least on podcasts that I've listened to. Um, you know, so like it's just the the the way that he talks and like rambling to talk, and people listen.

SPEAKER_00 38:45

That's slow and with intent.

SPEAKER_03 38:48

Slow with an intent. I like that.

SPEAKER_00 38:51

You're welcome.

SPEAKER_03 38:52

You're slow with an intent to do something.

SPEAKER_00 38:56

Apparently, I got no intentions. You're not slow. I'm just a little slow.

SPEAKER_03 39:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 39:02

Um I do have my slow moments, so you like eptimum. It put at Boo.

SPEAKER_03 39:09

We've been together 14 years. You've never had a slow moment.

SPEAKER_00 39:12

Uh-huh. I'm really bad at math, guys. And one time we were eating dinner and I did math in my head really fast, and JD looked at me in shock because that's how bad my slow moments are with math. Yeah, like that. Okay. So another thing in this is after he got that role, five days until into filming, his dad passed away. And that was so sad to read because he was like, My dad gave me this blessing, but he he he's never gonna see it come to fru fruition. Like he's never gonna see it play out and that was really sad.

SPEAKER_03 39:59

Yeah, but which is just another guiding factor in who he became. Yep. Maybe I don't know. What what how'd you word that earlier? Just a uh what him going to Australia was a guiding factor? That's not what you said though.

SPEAKER_00 40:15

I forgot what I said.

SPEAKER_03 40:15

You had a cooler way of saying it.

SPEAKER_00 40:18

It was like he was meant to go on that path, even though I forgot how I said it though. But at the end he travels to Europe because the guy who he was staying with, which was part of Dazed and Confused, told him something about not wanting it, but you need talent agencies to need you. And so he went to Europe and didn't think about acting. And that's when he was on motorcycles on the Autobahn.

SPEAKER_03 40:48

I just do you have the guy's name written down that they rented from? It wasn't Erie. I don't think it was Erie. I don't know why Erie just stands out to me.

SPEAKER_00 40:59

Uh it's right here.

SPEAKER_03 41:01

One that guy was super cool though, because they went out, they rode bikes, they had them rented, they didn't have enough money. The guy said, You need this, just take it. And he got it.

SPEAKER_00 41:15

Almost.

SPEAKER_03 41:16

Oh, and then one of the friends wrecks, and then he comes and gets the bike and brings him a new one and says, Hey, keep going. Imagine that. I mean, like, that's that's so cool. I would I would love to do that.

SPEAKER_00 41:29

Johan.

SPEAKER_03 41:30

Johan.

SPEAKER_00 41:31

Johan.

SPEAKER_03 41:31

I don't know why I thought Yuri. Yo, Yuri Johan.

SPEAKER_00 41:34

He went with Cole Halser and Rory Cochrane. Cochrane.

SPEAKER_03 41:39

Oh, he went with Yuri or Yuri. What'd you just say?

SPEAKER_00 41:43

Johan.

SPEAKER_03 41:44

Johan.

SPEAKER_00 41:45

Johan rented them the bikes.

SPEAKER_03 41:47

Who'd you go with?

SPEAKER_00 41:48

Cole Halser and Rory.

SPEAKER_03 41:51

Rory.

SPEAKER_00 41:51

Cochrane.

SPEAKER_03 41:52

Not Yuri. You're Rory. Sorry.

SPEAKER_00 41:54

Rory.

SPEAKER_03 41:55

Rory. R-O-R-Y. Um, but that would be so cool to just be able to like go take that. Imagine, like, go on to take that trip. Like, that'd just what an experience. Traveling across Europe. What an experience. Um, do you have anything else for part three? No. Okay. Okay, so part four.

SPEAKER_00 42:16

The art of running downhill.

SPEAKER_03 42:18

The art of running downhill.

SPEAKER_00 42:20

AK, it's okay to mess up.

SPEAKER_03 42:23

Um, I like the note to self. Always ask if you want to before you do. And that was kind of the broken down version of it. Do you have the same idea?

SPEAKER_00 42:31

Page 133.

SPEAKER_03 42:33

133? Um, what's it say?

SPEAKER_00 42:37

When you can, ask yourself if you want to be it, want to before you do. Okay, he had a maid for a little bit and she pressed his jeans, and his friend was like, Do you need that or do you even want that? You're out. And he was like, No, I don't want to press jeans. What what am I doing?

SPEAKER_03 42:55

So sure, I I could do it, but do I want it?

SPEAKER_00 42:59

Well, that went on to him taking acting classes, and the acting classes made him more stiff and take he took less risks in auditions, uh-huh. Which was what got him the parts in the first place, him taking risks and him pushing the boundaries. So he was running downhill with those acting classes.

SPEAKER_03 43:24

Yeah. Always ask yourself if you want to.

SPEAKER_00 43:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:30

Um let's see, we have to prepare for to have freedom. Are you taking a picture?

SPEAKER_01 43:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:42

Take a picture.

SPEAKER_00 43:44

That was don't walk. Don't walk the it's too late, it's too soon tightrope until you die. AK, don't limit yourself. Try. That was after page. After 133, somewhere.

SPEAKER_03 44:02

Yeah. On 139, I like the uh this note. So I'm just gonna go go ahead and quickly read this to everybody. Like I said, I recommend everybody get this book and read this book. If only means you wanted something, but you did not get it. For some reason, either by your own incompetence or the world's intervention, it did not happen. Sometimes this is just the breaks, and we need to bow out gracefully. But more often than we care to admit, we don't get what we want because we quit early or we didn't take the necessary risk to get it. The more boots we put in the backside of our if-onlies, the more we will get what we want. Don't walk the it's too late, it's too soon, tightrope until you die. So I like that part too.

SPEAKER_00 45:15

Um well after that he lost himself and he didn't know what kind of what way to go. And so he went to a monastery and he met Brother Christian and he told his story and he was just venting to him. And then Brother Christian so that's when he said, I I lost myself, and then Brother Christian was like, Me too.

SPEAKER_03 45:45

Me too, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:46

And then he Matthew McConaughey wrote, Sometimes we need to hear that we're not the only one. Sometimes we don't need advice. Yep. And that was page 149. That's a big thing. Yeah, and that that hit really hard for me. Yeah. I will say probably out of this whole book, that little section was the most meaningful to me.

SPEAKER_02 46:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:14

Because we all go through our own things, but and we all feel like we've probably lost ourselves at one point or another. And it's nice to feel connected even though you don't want other people to go through that too.

SPEAKER_03 46:30

Right. So knowing that you're not alone. Yeah. For you, what is what is you're not alone? What are you not alone with?

SPEAKER_00 46:42

You want me to say it? Oh. I have fibromyalgia. And so sometimes I like Eptimum. It's so funny, and I have to learn to laugh at myself, but sometimes my brain doesn't connect to what I'm reading because of my brain fog. And then I'm in pain every day. I get dizzy spelled. I have all these symptoms, right? And it's nice to know I'm not alone, and then when you're on forums and you look at stuff, it's like wow, I'm doing a lot better than I thought I was.

SPEAKER_03 47:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:28

Because I still get up every day to work. I still get up every day, and if there has to be laundry that needs to be done, I can do it. I've learned to ask for help because I hated doing that. With you, I've been like, Boo, hey, can you do this? I I can't do it. And like it's good, it's good to know. Like, I'm not the only one going through that because you can understand, but at the same time, you can't fully understand. Right. So just to know. So I that hit really hard for me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 48:04

Well, I mean, if that's the only thing that you you get out of the book, I'm not laughing at you. I'm just laughing because he just moved Bernard. Yeah, he just moved the blinds behind you.

SPEAKER_00 48:12

It's exploring. He's like, I'm in the studio.

SPEAKER_03 48:15

Um, but yeah, I mean, if if that's the only thing you got out of the book, I think it's cool that you were able to get something out of it. Yeah. And then that you can look at life differently now because you have already discovered forums and things before.

SPEAKER_01 48:30

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 48:30

But you can at least relate with the book and say, you know what, like at least I'm not the only one that feels good because I'm connected to somebody else. There's other people that feel good because they're connected too.

SPEAKER_00 48:40

Yeah. Like it's it's like a big old venting sesh. Like, I don't go to those forums a lot because at the same time, I don't want to read about it because I live it, you know?

SPEAKER_01 48:51

Right.

SPEAKER_00 48:51

But it's also like it's good to know that if I ever need support that my immediate family or my immediate friends or you couldn't understand, I could go there, you know? Luckily, I have a very good support system. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 49:08

Well, that's cool. Not cool that you have all that going on, but cool that you could relate it that way. Um, do you have anything else in that area or that section?

SPEAKER_00 49:20

Actually, I think it uh I oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 49:26

I accidentally messed up and I put section four and five together. So I don't know where mine stop and start.

SPEAKER_00 49:34

So maybe this will help you. Section four, his mom betrayed him.

SPEAKER_03 49:40

Oh, yeah. I don't I don't have that written down.

SPEAKER_00 49:42

She wanted part of his fame. This is where Matthew lost his virginity.

SPEAKER_03 49:49

Metagirl, he was she was on the news or whatever, doing that, or making it a dateline piece or whatever it is.

SPEAKER_00 49:55

And this is where he also started to live on the road with Miss Hudd, his dog, his rescue dog. And I love that they traveled together and he upgraded to an airstream. What's it an airstream? Airstream, yeah. So one of those fancy silver ones.

SPEAKER_03 50:08

We lived in that for a while too, which is pretty cool. Three years. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:12

And I'm like, that would be awesome because I could work from anywhere with my job.

SPEAKER_03 50:16

Not you so much, but I think maybe we could move it around the lake here, the one of the two lakes here.

SPEAKER_00 50:23

We have a lot of lake access, so we could do it. Um, I like that he's like the people they met and observed along the way was like acting and storytelling 101. And that was page 165. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 50:41

So you're a little bit further than me.

SPEAKER_00 50:42

Yeah, and then part five starts after that.

SPEAKER_03 50:44

Okay, so then let me get two more part fours out. Um, one thing that I I like the story. Bless you. I like the way that he tells the story of bless you.

SPEAKER_00 50:56

Sorry, I think so.

SPEAKER_03 50:57

Before he has the movie, I think in part four he has the movie with Sandra Bullock.

SPEAKER_00 51:03

I think so.

SPEAKER_03 51:04

Um, I think that's who the main person was, and it wasn't happening. And it so I mean I'm gonna say this wrong, but I'm gonna try to get it right. Uh, it wasn't happening, or it wasn't gonna happen. Like, why would it happen? But then he was like, Okay, let me just leave it be for a while, and then all of a sudden he did some other things, and they're like, Matthew, we need you for this. So, you know, so like he made his own green lights for that.

SPEAKER_00 51:27

So for that, he did make his own green lights, but right before, or right as they were casting her, her previous movie skyrocketed, and so she got really, really famous, or she was already famous, but just like put her further out there. Uh-huh. And that's when they were like, Okay, we don't have to have as a as much of a famous person in the leading male role because we have her.

SPEAKER_03 51:58

And then he was able to get it because of that.

SPEAKER_00 52:00

Yeah. But he because he had pushing.

SPEAKER_03 52:02

Yeah. Yeah. Because of that, he has a quick little story where he says that he this is him rambling again. Oh, he's rambling, or he's talking like a cool person. Uh, he's like, I would uh walk down to the pier or walk down to the the boardwalk or whatever and get a tuna fish sandwich. And there was always 400 people, you know. There'd be uh 397 of them that didn't recognize me, and then there'd be the one person behind the register that knew me, and then two other people would be like, Oh, yeah, I think I've seen you. And he said, right when that movie dropped. He said a couple days after he went down and he The Lincoln Lawyer, right? Was that the Lincoln Lawyer one? It was it was at page 144, is where it is. So that was before 160, whatever you just said. So I would I would think that it's around the I thought it was the Sandra Bullock one. It could be Lincoln Lawyer.

SPEAKER_00 53:00

Um It was It was the Lincoln Lawyer. Okay because there's the picture of him in the movie. Okay. And then 144. No, it was the day of opening of a time to kill. So it was after wait, no. The day of the opening of A Time to Kill, I strolled to my favorite deli on third street, Belgium.

SPEAKER_03 53:29

First one's a time to kill. If only we had a producer, we could say Google it. Here, I'm my producer, so let me Google that. A time to kill? I think that might be the Sandrew Bullock one. I I'm probably wrong, but a time to kill.

SPEAKER_00 53:52

It was Sandre Bullock. Who was already cast in as Ellen Rorick in A Time to Kill. Yep. Had recently started. Samuel R.

SPEAKER_03 54:01

Jackson, too.

SPEAKER_00 54:02

Yeah, had recently started a film called While You Were Sleeping. Okay. So that's the movie.

SPEAKER_03 54:07

Time to kill. So because of a Time to Kill, so the morning after the whatever he says, he was walking to get, I said a couple days. So the morning after the one with Sandra Bullock, he goes down, and I just love the way he says this. And he says, There was the 400 people, and there was 397 of them that knew who I was now.

SPEAKER_00 54:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 54:33

And there were three that wasn't.

SPEAKER_00 54:35

And one of them was looking at a newspaper, and one of them, what was it? Something weird.

SPEAKER_03 54:40

This is why I like what he says. Let me tell let me say it. He said, I mean, I wrote my version of it. But he says, There was three that weren't. It was a baby, a dog. A blind man. Yeah. A blind man. He said there was three babies and a blind man. So he says 206, there's 96 of them knew who I were, or 396 knew who I were, or who I was before, didn't it? Three babies and a blind man. And it was just like, I mean, that's so smooth. Like, I mean, that's the smoothness.

SPEAKER_00 55:12

Well, imagine though, if that was your life and like this was your dream to act, but you just wanted to act, and then all of a sudden everyone knew about you. Everyone knew about your dog. Like he said, someone came up to me and asked about her cancer. Right. And I'm like, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 55:28

Yeah. How do you well? Okay.

SPEAKER_00 55:29

Yeah. How do you deal with that?

SPEAKER_03 55:31

It would be it would be wild, but it seems like he's been doing well dealing with it. So um I just like the way he does, he says that. Three babies and a blind man. Yeah. Um, and then sometimes we have to leave what we know to find out what we know. That popped up. That kind of stuck out to me. I don't have a page number, but um you think you know what you know, but sometimes you gotta leave that to figure out what you know.

SPEAKER_00 56:00

Yeah, you have to be put in uncomfortable situations to know that you don't know this, but you do know your base.

SPEAKER_03 56:07

It could be that, and maybe not even have to be uncomfortable or a new place. Yeah, my old boss used to say there's different types of, I think it was like competency. So you could be incompetent. There's like incompetent incompetence, which means that you don't know what you don't know.

SPEAKER_01 56:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 56:27

And then you have incompetent competence, which means that you're sorry, competent incompetence, which means you know what you don't know, like, oh wow, I need to learn this, this, this, and this. Like you know what you need to learn, but you still don't know it. And then you have competent competence, which is like you know what you know, but then you have incompetence competence or something, which is like you're so good at knowing what you you know that you can just flow with it.

SPEAKER_00 57:00

Um But you don't, but you're so smart that you're dumb with things you don't know, right?

SPEAKER_03 57:05

Well, no, it would just like you need to get to the point of knowing it so well. So, like in between that, it'd be like a rocket scientist.

SPEAKER_00 57:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 57:13

So once you get to a rocket scientist, but like in the in the beginning parts of that is the you don't know what you don't know.

SPEAKER_00 57:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 57:20

So you and then you realize what you don't know. So sometimes you think you know everything, but you really don't know anything.

SPEAKER_00 57:26

It's lived experience. You're like, wow, traveling has opened my eyes to I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 57:32

Yeah. Yep. I don't know. So that's learning that you don't know everything. Because like when you're younger, you're like, oh, I know it all.

SPEAKER_00 57:39

And then you're like, Oh yeah, I know. I'm so ready to grow up. I'm like, that's gonna be great. Now I'm here and I'm like, adulting sucks. This isn't fun, it's fun, but not all it's cracked up to be.

SPEAKER_03 57:51

Yeah, the part where he says, I want to kiss the fire and walk away whistling. I thought that was pretty cool. He breaks that down. So you guys just need to go out, buy the book, read it, listen.

SPEAKER_00 58:00

See, he has very pretty prose, like very pretty ways of putting things rambles, as you call them.

SPEAKER_03 58:12

You want to fight?

SPEAKER_00 58:14

Listen, he has very pretty ways of putting things, but then he keeps repeating it in different ways. That's when it's rambling. If he could just say that one line, it'd be like bam, bam, choo, all there.

SPEAKER_03 58:28

Um, he shaves his head. I put find the part in the beginning that I like, a man who values vanity. I think that's the part that I liked as well. He was like, he said, he says all these things and he's like, I'm clearly a man who values vanity. And I'm like, I mean, like, you can admit that self about or admit that about yourself, which is which is cool.

SPEAKER_00 58:49

I think you're in part five now. Okay. I think.

SPEAKER_03 58:53

I I think you're probably right, because then I have the uh he talks about Well, this is called Turn the Page.

unknown 58:59

Oh, sorry.

SPEAKER_03 59:00

Part five.

SPEAKER_00 59:01

Turn the page.

SPEAKER_03 59:02

All right, thanks, boo. Um, here's a part where uh something was like six dollars and sixty-six cents.

SPEAKER_00 59:11

Oh yeah, and it's like that superstition. Like you you put a penny in the thing, yeah, give a penny, take a penny thing.

SPEAKER_03 59:17

So it was the a penny thing, and uh I had a story about that because one time and he played it off real cool because it's Matthew, so obviously he did. Matthew, like we're on a first name basis. It was Mr. McCartney, hey. Um, I was at CVS one time and I was walking over there from work, and on the ground was a fake $20 bill.

unknown 59:39

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 59:40

And I picked it up and it was like one of those Bible verse ones. Put it in my pocket anyway, because I was gonna prank some friends later. Well, I went into CVS and my total was 666. And the lady behind the bar bar, the counter was like, Do you do you want to get some gum or a candy bar? Because like I was like, Oh no, ma'am, I'm okay. And I pulled it out. I was like, Everything's okay when you carry Jesus in your pocket. And she was just like, Oh, you're so right. And uh, so when he told this story, I just thought it was the funniest thing because I was like, you know, he just played it off so cool, being like, Oh yeah, here's a penny or whatever, like take a penny or however you probably realize this, but what I don't think you realize is how cool you are like that all the time.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:21

Oh no, that was just a one-time thing. No people that was just a one-time thing. People flock to you because you're one liners. Nah.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:28

Yep. So moving on to uh the next note to self. Sometimes which choice you make isn't as important as sticking to the choice that you make. That really stuck out to me. Um stuck.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:42

That really stuck out, and now we're going on to part six.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:47

Well, so in part five, he got arrested because he was had a noise complaint playing bongos naked.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:55

He was his birthday suit. Yeah. Smoking a joint, playing bongos naked or naked, yeah. Yeah. See, that's why I'm trying to channel my inner Matthew McConnell. I should take my clothes off.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:06

No, that's mine. Okay. Um, so he got arrested, blah, blah, blah. Um, and this is after him and Miss Hud were on the road, they run into house, and then his anonymous anonymous anonymous anonymous?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:27

Anon anonym? Anonymy? There you go. Anonymity.

unknown 1:01:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:33

Anonymity. Thank you. Anonymity. That and his neighborhoods. And his neighborhoods and an I'm sorry, I was drinking some beer.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:45

Uh, anonymity, and anonymity, and anonymity.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:49

Okay. That's why. It was all gone after he got arrested. Okay. So yeah. After that, he headed back. Um, he was like, Um, I need to head west again. That's when the wedding planner came, that movie with Jennifer Lopez, and then after that, yeah, after that, he had partied more, he enjoyed hit the fame, and then that's when on page 186 he said he needed yellow lights to earn to earn his Saturdays again. So after filming, he practiced being less impressed, more involved, once again, like when he did when his dad passed.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:29

Okay, don't be blinded by the lights. Okay, don't be uh impressed, become more part of your life. Be present. And uh that that really stuck out to me. And then he went, he had another wet dream, which we didn't go over. But these dreams he would have that anytime he felt stuck, he seemed to have these wet dreams, and then he uh he went and followed what these dreams told him to.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:04

And that's what I kind of talked about. The Amazon. Yep, didn't talk about, but yeah, the Amazon River uh that was the first one.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:10

He went to the Amazon, the second one he went to Africa, and he met a famous singer from that part of the world. And on page 200, the singer said, Leave your scent. Don't go where your scents not want it. And so he did that when he went to a small village and wrestled the wrestler. He left his scent. Everyone would remember him, and he went back and visited it later, and they remembered him.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:40

Isn't it? I mean, this life is literally like a movie.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:44

His life is a movie.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:46

I mean, it literally like from going from starting off with his upbringing and then going to Australia for this study abroad, and then coming back, and then having these dreams, and then following the dreams, and then getting into the movie, and the not even the acting part, that's not even the movie part of it. It's what's happening outside of his acting career is the movie part. It is like he's literally living a movie, like, oh well, I had a dream that I was floating down the river, and then he did it. Crocodiles and the piranhas gave me a hard-on, and it was like, Well, they didn't actually do it, but I did float down those rivers, and uh it's wild.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:23

It is, but basically the leave your cent thing is be remembered, be welcomed. If you're not welcomed, don't stay. Um, don't waste your time where it's not worth it. That's basically what leave your sin is. And then he went on to say the unbelievable happens all the time. Don't deny it, don't depend on it, expect it and believe it. And so he needed that evolution that that trip brought, and that was him needing to turn the page.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:53

Turning a page is always good. Um when you said that he needed yellow lights.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:02

He needed to slow down.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:03

Yeah, he needed the yellow lights to, you know, to kind of like get the the motor like woo. Um, it reminded me of my 35th birthday trip when we went to uh just the lake to camp. And that was nice, you know, cats under the bed doing something. Uh I, you know, I've I had read this book at that point, so I was trying to channel my inner Matthew McConaughey once he went to bed, and I was like, yo, I've had a lot of green lights. I want to see the red lights, I want to see the fire, I want to see some darkness. And that night I definitely did for sure. But that was my 35th birthday, and having that was just kind of like a nice reset. So, like him saying, Oh, well, I needed at that point, I was just like, Hey, I need to see some green or some some yellows and some reds, and really get back and like, oh, you know, I kind of like felt felt part. That too.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:00

So get out of your own way, basically. Yeah. And you prescript your path. Yeah. If you're going down the wrong path.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:08

Not even the wrong path. You could be going down the right path.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:11

Yeah. Well, he was partying hard when his fame skyrocketed more.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:15

Yeah. Yeah. So for that I see that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:17

Not you, because you're you've been fine.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:20

But it was more of a, oh, everything everything's great. What's up? Like, I want to see what's going on. I want to just not be like, woo. You know, let me let me feel a different thing then woo. So uh you saying that just now kind of made that click in my mind, so I wrote that down. So a little side note. Um, okay, cool. Um part six.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:44

Yeah. The arrow doesn't seek the target, the target draws the arrow. I only have one thing from this. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:50

Um, there's a lot that goes on, but he asked the girl that he likes. I like this part. He asked the girl what he likes, sorry, that he likes what he'd have to do to lose her. And she said, change. Green light. I like that part. That's the best part. It's just like, oh, he liked her so much. And like he talks about how he went over and talked to her friend and her and saying, Oh, well, will you ladies come over and join me for a drink or whatever? Because I knew that she was such a lady that I had to invite her friend.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:19

Um, so there's a lot that happens, but the whole what would it what would I have to do to make you know if I don't want to lose you, what would I have to do if I do, basically?

SPEAKER_03 1:07:30

Change. Yeah. And he's like that. Green light. That just means being yourself, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:35

Well, the thing about this part though, is he shut down his production company and his record label to simplify his life and to be liberated to act and take care of his family, because at that point, uh his first baby was born Levi, and then Camilla, the girl, she was pregnant again. And he's like, I'm gonna liberate myself and reset again. That way I'm here for my family. Yeah, and I like that.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:05

I didn't write it down, but I do like the part as well because he reads it really well. Um, when they call his mom to say, Mom, we're pregnant. Yeah, we're pregnant, and she was like, No, no, Matthew, no. And they're like, um, this isn't how it's supposed to be, Matthew. Let's get married. This isn't the timeline. And then she calls back, can we put some line out on that? And then Camilla's like, ha ha. I love that. And like her brother's like, um, okay, part seven. Was there anything in part six? No. Part seven.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:44

Be brave, take the hill.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:46

Okay. Uh I only have a few in this one. If we all made comedy to the default emotion, we'd all get along a lot better. I'm gonna say it again for the people in the back. If we made comedy the default emotion, we'd all get along a lot better. So that really stuck out to me because that's true. If you could just laugh at yourself, like you said, if you could laugh at other other people, other situations, everything. Let's just laugh. Like, why why take why why so serious?

SPEAKER_00 1:09:16

Because some people have to be downers.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:18

Yeah, lame. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:20

Um, I took from it define success for yourself. What is my hill?

SPEAKER_03 1:09:26

What was my next one?

SPEAKER_00 1:09:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:30

Read it from my paper, read it from my notes.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:32

Define success for yourself. What does success look like to me? AK, what is your hill to climb? What makes you yourself successful?

SPEAKER_03 1:09:41

I'm glad that that part stuck out to you, Boo. I like that because that really stuck out to me too. Because success is different for everybody, because it goes back to the beginning or earlier in the pod where we said his dad's different than him. Yeah, they have different things, but just work for it, you know, and like you you gotta admire everybody's diversities. Um, so success is different for everybody. So define success for yourselves, so for yourself, and what does success look like to me? Yeah, what does it look like to you? Okay, sorry, you don't like that question. Um success to me looks like the opportunities that I create for myself and that I create for others. And I learned that you from Charlemagne, the guy. Charlamagne, Charlemagne said, success should be the opportunities that you create for yourself and the opportunities that you create for others, or you or something along those lines. So like the up you giving people jobs, aka you. Well, yeah, right. Whatever. But just in general, he's saying, you know, the people that you're you're helping support by giving them opportunity by you doing your thing, and that's creating things. So that that's why that stuck out to me. So I was I had like success to be, I've been measuring success that way. Yeah. Um well for recently since I've read Charlamagne's book. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:03

Well, for Matthew McConaughey, he had two years of no work because he wanted to redefine who he was. Yeah, he didn't want to just be a rom-comp guy, and he got so sick of playing the same role in the same role, and he could predict the script. And so he was like, he kept saying no, no, no, until people started rediscovering the Lincoln lawyer and his more serious films, and then they're like, Hey, would you want to try this role out? And so basically he redefined who he was by saying no to all the rom-coms. And that's what led to the Dallas Buyers Club.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:40

You know, and that was a big one.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:43

Oh yeah. He went down to 135. That's wild. There's a picture in that book of him that skinny, and he ooh.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:49

That's so wild.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:50

Skin it like a skeleton.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:53

Um, you said end of part six?

SPEAKER_00 1:11:56

Or seven.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:57

Seven. Okay. Um I my last thing for part seven then would be priorities. Um, sorry. No, I can't read. Prioritize who I am and who I want to be, and stop equating time on things that won't get me there. And by equating, I don't know what I meant to put there, but uh like don't waste your time on stuff that's just gonna hinder your growth. Right. So it's it's really prioritize who I am and then who I want to be and stop. I don't know what I put equating though. Uh, because I'm sure it was something different. I was typing while I was working, probably with wet gloves on, uh, on things that won't get me there. So I that really stuck out to me. Uh part eight.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:44

Live your legacy now.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:48

Do you have anything good?

SPEAKER_00 1:12:50

I didn't highlight anything in that section, no.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:53

Uh, so I have learn when and how to get a handle on your own life. We all have scars, and we'll get more. So I also said put read this part. So too busy living. I like that a lot. It was page 289 because he says this whole thing about we all have scars, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But I I'm just out there too busy living. Yeah. And I'm like, oh man, that's so insightful, Matthew McConaughey. Hey, why are you so cool?

SPEAKER_00 1:13:20

That is one thing I like about him is he kept trying to live like Bernard. Hey dude. Hey, dude. Dude. Dude. Okay. The kitten in him is still going crazy.

unknown 1:13:36

He's not coming to me.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:38

He messed up my clip last time.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:40

Oh, yeah, he did. Yeah, he did. He just wants to hang out with us. Yeah, no, and he wants to destroy things. Okay. That's true. He's still a baby. Okay, guys. Just a baby. It's just a baby. Well, part eight, he got uh pregnant with the they him and Camilla got their third baby pregnant.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:59

Um their third baby pregnant? That's weird.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:03

Words. Uh they got pregnant with their third baby. And then um he wanted to name that baby Livingston after impressions that Matthew had met in his life, which is very impactful if you read about the impressions part, and then he started writing in this section. He also won his first Oscar for best actor.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:33

Nice.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:34

But when he started writing, he found himself again, aka leading to this book.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:39

Yeah. It's funny to see or hear the differences between what we get out of the this book because I heard it and I heard everything that went on with it and all his situations in life.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:54

But what I got out of it more was the lessons learned out of it. Whereas you've mentioned a lot more the situations in his life. So, like the going to Australia and then the how he was raised and how this part. You know what I mean? Like you're seeing the backstory, whereas I'm just maybe just getting the surface.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:19

Yes, but maybe I should explain more. I'm seeing these situations. I'm not saying you're not seeing it for more, but I'm seeing these situations and basically saying this happened, this happened, this happened. But each situation, each not each one, but most of the situations I pointed out, at one point in these situations, he lost himself and he had to rediscover who he was in that moment. And out of this whole book, yes, it's a love letter to his life, but it's also, I feel like a journal to say keep rediscovering yourself. Yeah. That's the main thing I got out of this whole entire book is you're changing all the time. Keep rediscovering who you are now and be the best person you can be. I like that.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:11

Cool.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:11

I like that.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:12

Well then I'm just gonna end it then real quick. Not the whole pod, but just the book part. Do you have anything else before I end it?

SPEAKER_00 1:16:18

Yeah, the PS afterward that was published on 2024. Stay in the race and commit to the chase.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:29

I was just asking. You just said on 2024. Sorry, keep going. I'm just asking.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:41

Stay in the race and commit to the chase of life. The of life is a deserter.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:52

I like that. Um Towards the end of the book, right here, he says, Inevitably, we're gonna die. Our eulogy, our story, story, will be told by others and forever introduce us when we are gone. And that really stuck out to me because what people so we're building how we'll be introduced after you're gone right now.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:26

That's weird to think about.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:27

It is so like I you don't think about it typically, or I don't at least. Um, so seeing or hearing that was like, wow. So, like when I'm gone, the way I'll be remembered is how I'll be introduced.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:43

JD the blank, blank, blank, blank, blank, blank, blink, blank. You know, so Emma the blank blank blah blah blah blah blah, like however it is, the cat-loving, hardworking podcasting writer who has a New York Times bestselling book because she worked her butt off after reading Green Lights. Um, but that really stood out to me. So, like, I mean, that's building a legacy. Um, it's more than just the what you're doing now, because what you're doing now is gonna be in the future, too. Yeah, I don't know. Like, that really stood out to me at the very end. I like how he kind of ends the book with that.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:25

So yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:26

Um, that's everything I got out of the book.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:30

What do you rate it?

SPEAKER_03 1:18:35

Probably like a four or five.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:37

So higher than Charlemagne's book?

SPEAKER_03 1:18:40

Well, Charlemagne's.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:41

Oh, never mind. You did his higher. You did four seven for Charlemagne's.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:45

Yeah, yeah, I thought so. I think, I mean, these are both along the same lines. I mean, I I take a lot of things out of both of these. Um, I really like what I got out of them, and I I try to live that way and try to be a better person.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:01

And I think you're a good person. Oh, thanks, boo.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:04

I think I'm a great person. But uh, I try to be a better person every day. Just because I'm amazing can't be can't meet doesn't mean I can't be more amazing or what do you give it?

SPEAKER_00 1:19:14

2.8. I gave Charlemagne's book a three. So do you want to hear what we're reading next week?

SPEAKER_03 1:19:25

Not really. I'm gonna rip my notes up.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:30

Pull a Nancy Pelosi and just We are reading Home is Where the Bodies Are by Geneva Rose.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:38

Hey, fun fact. I didn't have a podcast today to listen to, so Emma actually told me what book we were doing, and I'm already on chapter 14.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:48

Oh, that's pretty good, boo.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:49

Yeah, because there's actually a lot of chapters, they're kind of short, they're very short.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:53

Um, but they're also broken up like how the guest list was by character. I like it that way.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:00

I think I'm I think I'm figuring it out that I'm kind of like a mystery guy.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:04

Ooh, that's good. I have so many books you could read.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:06

I think I'm I think the mystery, like the sci-fi, eh. But like so far this one's catching my attention, especially because they use two different people to read it. So a guy does the guy parts and a girl does the girl parts.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:18

Well, it's also funny because this is the author that has beef.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:21

Girl parts.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:23

This is the author that has beef with a guy named Scott on her Instagram. It's really funny. He wrote a review via an email to her.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:32

Oh, is that the one that you showed me?

SPEAKER_00 1:20:33

Yeah, and she answered, and then you really like her husband, Drew, because he's funny.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:38

Like he's like, look at her, look at her book. And yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:42

I do, I do have to say, like I said, I'm only like part way through it, but like I feel like the writing is almost very elementary. It's very easy to follow. Very easy to follow, which I like because everybody knows that I'm really good. But it's it's easy for me, which makes me think that it's just very basic.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:03

No, I mean, every writer has their own style.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:09

But for me, it's easy to follow, which I really enjoy. And that's why I was like, Am I am I a mystery?

SPEAKER_00 1:21:15

It could be, it could be how the uh chapters are laid out too, though. Oh, that's probably cool things.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:22

That format, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:23

But do you want to hear what it's about, even though you kind of already know?

SPEAKER_03 1:21:25

I I do. You should tell the tell the listeners.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:28

After their mother passes, three estranged siblings reunite to sort out her estate. Beth, the oldest, never left home. She stayed with her mom caring for her until the very end. Nicole, the middle child, has been kept at arm's length due to her ongo ongoing battle with serious drug addiction. Michael, the youngest, lives out of state and hasn't been back to the small Wisconsin town since their father ran out on them seven years before. While going through their parents' books, Hillary didn't run out.

unknown 1:22:05

Sorry.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:06

I haven't even gone to that part part yet, but I can just tell that he did something happened.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:10

We'll see.

unknown 1:22:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:11

While going through their parents' belongings, the siblings stumble upon a collection of home videos and decide to revisit those happier memories. However, the nostalgia is cut short when one of the VHS tapes reveals a night back in 1999 that none of them have any recollection of. On screen, their father appears covered in blood. What follows is a dead body and a pact between their parents to get rid of it before the video abruptly ends. Beth, Nicole, and Michael must now decide whether to leave the past in the past or uncover the dark secret their mother took to the grave.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:48

The dead body is your name.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:53

First off, she's the middle Wait, is she the middle child?

SPEAKER_03 1:22:57

No, the dead child has your name.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:59

Oh, I forgot about that. I read this so long ago. Emma. Really? I forgot about that. Don't get any ideas. Okay. Give us recommendations. Spoilers for anything and all things on our channel.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:18

Everything and all things. Alright. Well, thanks for hanging out with us, everybody. Read it.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:24

And what does your favorite YouTube oh best ever a piece?

SPEAKER_03 1:23:35

We're not doing that. I like the uh another podcast I listen to. What they do is whenever they have guests, they always say, All right, you look into the camera right there, and you either say one word or one phrase. So let's end it with you looking in that camera right here and just saying one word or one phrase to end the whole pod.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:57

You don't want me to do that.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:58

All right, that was your phrase. Goodbye, everybody.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:01

I was about to say cat.