The Assassin's Blade | Episode 19

 WARNING: THIS PODCAST HAS SPOILERS

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This week we dive into The Assassin's Blade by Sarah J. Maas.

The series, which includes eight books and a prequel novella collection, chronicles her fight for freedom, her discovery of her heritage, and a final battle against dark forces threatening her world.

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SPEAKER_01 0:00

It's some cold in this house. It's some cold in this house. It's some cold in this house. That's why we wear comfies.

SPEAKER_04 0:08

Mine's a snuggie.

SPEAKER_01 0:09

Oh, sorry, you're fancy. Mine's the knockoff Walmart version. Hey, boo.

SPEAKER_04 0:18

Hey.

SPEAKER_01 0:19

How you doing?

SPEAKER_04 0:20

Okay. How are you? I'm good.

SPEAKER_01 0:22

I'm listening to your cat over there on the floor playing with my tape.

SPEAKER_03 0:25

He's trying to oh, he just put it in his mouth.

unknown 0:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 0:29

That that tape was supposed to hold cords down for the studio. It was not supposed to be a play toy for your cat.

SPEAKER_04 0:38

Well, technically he's your cat.

SPEAKER_01 0:39

Okay, just because you got me him does not mean he's my cat. Yes, you got me a cat and said, This is yours. But then you took him over.

SPEAKER_03 0:48

So I didn't do anything. He did his own thing.

unknown 0:52

That's so sad.

SPEAKER_03 0:53

It's because I feed him.

SPEAKER_01 0:54

I've been getting belly rubs recently. I'm pretty happy. Do not mess with my curtain. I see you over there.

SPEAKER_04 1:02

He's like, I'm not doing anything, Dad.

SPEAKER_01 1:04

All right. All right. All right. Well, it is Cinco, so happy Cinco Boo.

SPEAKER_04 1:09

Happy Cinco. Woo. And happy early Mother's Day because the Sunday is Mother's Day. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:16

Happy Mother's Day. Um, we are going to be just drinking Doseki's amber because that's our go-to Mexican beer.

unknown 1:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:28

Yeah.

unknown 1:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:30

So I'm going to crack these. Do you have a word of the week?

unknown 1:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:34

What's our word? It is 10:30. It's after 10:30 at night. 10 48. I just got home from work.

SPEAKER_03 1:46

And I'm old.

SPEAKER_01 1:47

And she was in bed napping after her, the dog, and Bernard came to see me at work, which was very nice. Very nice. Yeah, it was seriously cute.

SPEAKER_04 1:57

Okay. Oh, cheers.

unknown 2:01

Oh, cheers.

SPEAKER_03 2:09

Okay. Since we are doing The Assassin's Blade by Sarah J. Mass, uh, the word of the week is novella.

SPEAKER_01 2:21

I was wondering that what word would come up, so cool.

SPEAKER_03 2:24

So it is a work of fiction that is larger or longer than a short story, but shorter than a full-length novel. Typically ranges from twenty thousand to fifty thousand words focused on a single plot. And the Assassin's Blade is a collection of novellas. So there's five novellas in here.

SPEAKER_01 2:47

So when you were telling me it was like the first book that we read, or the book before the first one that we read. You were telling me about it and how people either read the novellas first. Is that the only book that has novellas in it?

SPEAKER_04 3:07

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 3:08

Okay. So I was really confused in the very beginning because I'll show you why. They were all stacked.

SPEAKER_04 3:15

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 3:15

So we even talked about it last episode how those are thicker, these are like hardbacks, these are not. So every time you pointed saying the novellas, I thought it was like three or four books of small stories. Is he messing with the carpet?

SPEAKER_03 3:35

I don't see him.

SPEAKER_01 3:36

Okay, good. Maybe he's in the carpet. In the carpet, in the closet doing it. Um but I thought it was a couple books of that. So there's only one book of novellas. Yes. Novellas. Yes. Novellas? Novellas. Novellas. Novellas. How do you spell it?

SPEAKER_02 3:53

N-O-V-E-L-L-A. Novellas. Okay, cool.

unknown 3:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:00

Alright.

SPEAKER_01 4:00

Well, that was a good good I see it right there, novellas. Um good word of the week. What else you got for that? Is there anything else? I cut you off.

SPEAKER_04 4:10

So no. Okay. That's it.

SPEAKER_01 4:12

Well, I was really confused and I'm glad that there's only one book of those.

SPEAKER_03 4:16

So well, did you enjoy the short story? Well, I mean the novellas. Do you enjoy the little stories in it? Like overall. Because there are some in there that I'm like, eh, I could I could skip it, but information in it is key to the whole series.

SPEAKER_01 4:38

Yeah. Which I could see, which I could appreciate for what it is. It's still not my cup of tea. So I was not like, woo, short stories. Um, I could see why people that are really into the series would be into it because it gave a lot of background. I don't know if there's more background throughout the rest of the series. We've only done three books. There's five more, right? There's eight.

SPEAKER_03 5:10

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 5:12

So I see a little bit of popping up there. Uh so I'm not sure if there, you know, if it goes back in more detail about the past, but that gave a lot of answers, I guess, to things that popped up in the first two that we read.

SPEAKER_03 5:28

Yeah, like it the other books don't really go go into the past like this, the novellas do. Um he's a goober. Sorry.

unknown 5:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 5:39

But uh in the next book in the series that we're gonna read, which is Air of Fire, um, there are there is a part where we know what happens the night her parents died. So you get that part of the story. And it's it basically it brings it all together. It's nice. Yeah. It's it's it's really good. Air on fire. Air.

SPEAKER_01 6:20

Air on fire.

SPEAKER_03 6:21

Yay, not hair.

SPEAKER_01 6:22

No, it's air of fire. Sorry. JK. Okay, keep going.

SPEAKER_03 6:26

Cool. So this. So Assassin's The Assassin's Blade. It's still not my favorite of the series. Please don't hate me, people. What? There are eight books.

SPEAKER_01 6:43

Do you like any of these? Because each one you're like, well, it's not my favorite. It's not my favorite.

SPEAKER_03 6:47

My favorite is Queen of Shadows.

SPEAKER_01 6:49

So you only have one favorite out of eight.

SPEAKER_03 6:51

Well, there's an order. So Queen of Shadows is my favorite, then Kingdom of Ash, then I like Empire of Storms, Air of Fire, Tower of Dawn, then it's Crown of Midnight, then Assassin's Blade, and Thur in a Glass is my least favorite.

SPEAKER_01 7:06

So you like one of these books, and you gotta read all eight of them.

SPEAKER_03 7:09

I like all of them, but I have an order, my preference.

unknown 7:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:16

Cool. Onward.

SPEAKER_04 7:21

Well, I don't forgot what I was gonna say now.

SPEAKER_03 7:24

Bernard.

SPEAKER_01 7:25

Lo siento.

SPEAKER_03 7:27

He's having fun exploring over there. But oh, I remember. The novellas, these novellas start the whole, I don't know if you remember, but um when we were recording through in a glass, I said the reason the series is my favorite series is because it's all basically big a big thing of small acts of kindness.

SPEAKER_00 7:57

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 7:59

Well, did you recognize any of those in here? Like, did you notice how many acts of kindness she had with Selena? No. So and uh the first one, the assassin oh gosh, the assassin and the pirate lord, she freed over 200 slaves. That was a big act of kindness, but then excuse her cat. Then in um The Assassin and the Healer, um, she teaches Irene. I'm probably saying her name wrong. It's probably Irene, but Irene, um, taught her how to defend herself, and then she left her that pouch of money so she can go be a healer because the world needs more heal healers. Then she waited one minute to shoot an arrow at Ansel. She said she was gonna shoot an arrow in 20 minutes, but she waited one extra minute or else she would be dead. Then she loved Sam. I mean, it's not a small act of kindness, but it's there.

SPEAKER_04 9:22

Neat. Shall we go novella by novella?

SPEAKER_03 9:26

Yeah, whatever you want to do. Okay, I may jump around a bit because so much of it interconnects, so be patient with me.

SPEAKER_01 9:35

I'm just gonna sit Indian style in my seat. Cover up in my comfy and uh in my snuggy. I got my dosekis, I'm ready to go.

SPEAKER_04 9:44

It's so big.

SPEAKER_01 9:45

Oh, I can't cover it up. Oh, wait, I'm sitting on it.

SPEAKER_04 9:48

See how big it is?

SPEAKER_03 9:49

It's just like and I have a cat pocket in mine.

SPEAKER_01 9:52

See I have a big pocket, but it's not a cat pocket.

SPEAKER_04 9:58

It is special.

SPEAKER_01 10:00

Have you put Bernard in there yet?

SPEAKER_04 10:04

You were there.

SPEAKER_02 10:06

I was asking so that way the people know. Yes. You gotta tell the people.

SPEAKER_03 10:10

Yes. We have put Bernard in it. And we put Gus Gus in it. He he he was like, This is weird back in the day.

SPEAKER_01 10:20

R I P Gus Gus. I know. Okay, so it was on the OG ups.

SPEAKER_04 10:26

I know. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 10:33

Okay. So The Assassin and the Pirate Lord. It starts out where um they're in a meeting and they find out Araben 2nd is oh, you finally gotta gotta meet Araben in these, by the way. Um, it starts off with uh they're in a meeting talking about Araben 2nd being killed. His name was Ben. Remember that? And then she was Yes. Cool. And then so no one would go retrieve his body, so Selena did, right? And then the next chapter it says two months, three days, and about eight hours later, page nine, Sam and Selena are in Skulls Bay meeting with Captain Rolfe. So that will not mean anything to you, right, at this moment, but but two months, three days, and about eight hours later, there is a time frame mentioned later in this series with almost that exact same time. And um the reason it sticks out is because let's see, later on in the assassin in the uh pirate lord, she goes to she goes to find Sam after he basically blew up the watchtower to get the chain down. And she also thinks he's dead. And Sam, once he appears, he is the first person she hugs, and she specifically states that the last time someone had held her was Ben, and that was on page 72. Like hugged. I know he's not a touchy filly guy, he doesn't like hugs. No.

SPEAKER_01 12:41

Oh, that must be the dog. Sorry, I just started spelling. That's why my face went that way, not because the hug is it was at the just perfect timing.

SPEAKER_03 12:50

I was like, I mean, her head's over here and her butt's over there.

SPEAKER_01 12:53

Her butt is pointing around.

SPEAKER_03 12:54

She's an old lady. Don't point out her farts. I'm sorry, I thought it was yours. Thanks. Girls don't fart.

SPEAKER_01 13:06

Okay. Okay. Or Marley. Um so she hugged Ben.

SPEAKER_03 13:11

Yeah, the last person to really hold her that, and she said held her. So, in a way, hug was Ben. He was her comfort. And then she was the last person to go get his body. And then later on, I know I'm already skipping ahead when I said, let's go novella by novella. Later on, the last time she hugs Sam is when he's laying on that table in The Assassin and the Empire. And just try to remember that connection, that that time was connected to Ben and to Sam. And both of those men ended up dead. It's okay. Now let's go back to the first novella. Okay. Okay. Oh, we one thing we didn't really talk about last episode in Crown of Midnight was the ending of Crown of Midnight. Do you remember the ending?

SPEAKER_01 14:16

Can you refresh my memory?

unknown 14:18

Yeah, I can.

SPEAKER_03 14:21

He's being an adventure kiddy right now. She whispered to Kale on the docks. Date. And he realized that was the date that her parents died. And then he remembered her saying, My great grandmother was Faye, and he's looking at the books that Dorian left in her room. And he turned back to the chronicle lying open and turned to the next day. Ailen Galathenius, heir to the throne of Terracine, died today or sometime in the night. Before help could reach her deceased parents' estate, the assassin who had missed her the night before returned. Her body has still not been found, though some believe it was thrown thrown into the river behind her parents' house. She once had said that Arabin had had found her, found her half dead and frozen on a riverbank. He was just jumping to conclusions. Maybe she merely wanted him to know that she still cared about Terracin or there was a poem scribbled at the top of the Ashtriver family tree, as though some student had dashed it down as a reminder while studying. Ashtriver eyes, the fairest eyes from legends old of brightest blue ringed with gold. Bright blue eyes ringed with gold. A strangled cry came out of him. How many times had he looked into those eyes? How many times had he seen her avert her gaze? That one bit of proof that she couldn't hide from the king. Selena Sidothian wasn't in league with Ailen Ashriver Galathenius. Selena Sidothian was Ailen Ashraver Galanthenius, heir to the throne and rightful queen of Tereson. Remember that now? Okay. So what'd you think about that? By the way. Her being the actual Ailen Galathenius.

SPEAKER_02 16:23

That was pretty cool.

SPEAKER_03 16:27

But you get little snippets of things as you're going through these novellas when it's you're like, oh, that's that's why she hid her eyes from the king, and the only time she looked at the king was in the last novella. And then Arabin asking about her past and if she had told Sam. So I don't know. It's cool. Okay, back to the assassin and the pirate lord. What did you think of the overall story? Like of Captain Rolfe, the slave trade, her and Sam freeing the slaves after a plan of getting everyone drunk and distracted and brawl, disabling disabling all the ruddle rudders.

SPEAKER_01 17:13

I think the story was good because they had characters that were doing things throughout the whole story. So story good and book, words, and uh they did things that progressed the story, so story was good.

SPEAKER_04 17:35

Good. I'm glad you liked it.

SPEAKER_01 17:37

Yeah, the story was really good. There were people in it, and they did things.

SPEAKER_03 17:43

Well, one thing that stuck out to me was on page 38, she had seen uh the slaves in the warehouse when she was looking them over with Captain Ralph, and she had thought that death is quick while slavery is suffering. And that little line was like a little nugget foreshadowing for me for her going into Endovier. We already knew because we read this third that she went to Indovier. So it's funny to see little snippets like that pop up. And it aligns with everything we've seen like in Throne of Glass when she was coming into Rifthold. She saw the slaves on the Avery Bank and she averted her gaze when they were being whipped. Then we well, that also includes her probably from her experience in Andovier. But we see little things throughout what we've read so far where she's totally against the slave trade, and she really thinks that is suffering and it is better to be dead than to be a slave. So what was your favorite part about The Assassin and the Pirate Lord. That's the first novella. So the one they were rescuing the slaves.

SPEAKER_01 19:19

I liked when they rescued him.

SPEAKER_03 19:22

I really thought it was cool that Dia, the slave that spoke the common tongue. And my favorite scene in this one was when she was on the ship and Sam was on the other ship, and she found Dea. Did she toot again? I can't smell right now.

SPEAKER_01 19:49

I didn't say anything that time. You just saw my face.

SPEAKER_02 19:51

Yeah, I'm sorry. You wanted her in here? I did, I did. I love my girl. Okay, keep going. She's just nappy.

SPEAKER_01 19:57

That toot can is just pointed literally right here at the edge of the table. And the only it's just like a couple whiffs where it's just uh oh.

SPEAKER_03 20:07

I'm so glad I can't snore now. I'm so stuffy.

unknown 20:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 20:12

Um I'm gonna miss that tooth can in one day, so enjoy it while you can.

unknown 20:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 20:21

Um, it was my favorite part was when she found Dia and she had asked who of the slaves had spoken the common tongue. And she had previously asked, acting like, oh, he'll fetch a higher price. But when she was on the ship explaining the um the plan to them and how they had to stay below decks, but every all the crew was tied up, but there were theirs to use to get out of the bay. I don't know, that that part was and then everyone was translating for everyone else. It was pretty cool. Yeah, that was neat. Yeah. All right, shall we move on?

SPEAKER_02 21:02

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 21:03

Okay. The assassin and the healer. Any initial thoughts on that one?

SPEAKER_01 21:16

Um I think that there was a lot of things that were happening in it that progressed the story from a uh um historic standpoint where it made us learn things about the story and the people that were doing the things.

SPEAKER_03 21:40

So, for example, would that be like Irene, her parents or her mom was basically killed because she was a healer, even though magic had been erased by that point?

SPEAKER_01 21:51

That is pretty much what I just said. So, yes.

SPEAKER_03 21:56

No, it was okay. So, that's one example. Example. Cool. Um I think one part that stuck out to this with me was that Selena had mentioned that when she was a child, she wanted to be a healer. So it's kind of ironic that instead of Was she a sweet child? A sweet child? I guess you'll find out in other books. Sweet child.

SPEAKER_02 22:29

Sweet child. Child of mine. Sorry. Okay, I'll cut that out.

SPEAKER_03 22:36

You don't have to. But as a child, she wanted to be a healer. And it's kind of ironic that her life took such a drastic turn. And Irina's right here, or Ureen or Irene, however they pronounce in the books, she's over here kind of freaking out because life is being taken in front of her. Freak out. Freak out.

SPEAKER_01 23:04

Sorry. Song lyrics. Keep going.

SPEAKER_03 23:07

She's internally freaking out because the mercenaries are killed in front of her in the alleyway. But she's in a way against it because she is wants to be a healer. And her mother was a healer, and all life is precious. So it's kind of ironic that Senlena wanted to be one and she turned out to be an assassin. But that's how she's had to survive. So once Sun Lena had saved Irene the first time, um they were in her little cubby of a room and Selena was talking to her about what she wanted to do with her life. And she was surprised that Irene wanted to come back to the continent to be a healer for the people there because the continent had taken so much from her. And that's when she decided to train her to defend herself after she had said that. Because she believed, as we saw in her note that she left her, that the world needs more healers, especially their continent, because so much is going on with Ardolin's rule. Also, in this novella, we get to hear or read how badly she was beaten by Arabin for disobeying him about in Skulls Bay about the slave trade. And that was pretty drastic if she was still bruised up by then and up until then next novella. Because that's weeks of travel.

SPEAKER_01 25:09

That's what I thought too.

SPEAKER_03 25:10

Yeah. But they're assassins, they know how to inflict pain and leaf marks.

SPEAKER_01 25:19

That's what I thought too.

SPEAKER_03 25:26

So after she was taught to defend herself, uh Irene went to her room, and this is after she proved she could defend herself in a controlled environment. That part was funny because her reaction when Selena had said that is probably something I would have thought, like, are you insane? That was controlled. Someone had a knife to my throat. And um it was it was just funny to me. But when she returned, that's when she had found the pouch of gold and then the brooch or brooch, however you say it, brooch, and her bag with that note from Selena. And the note had been for wherever it had said on page 113 for wherever you need to go, and then some the world needs more healers. After she found that, pulling up a page, so forgive me.

SPEAKER_01 26:33

Yeah, that's what I thought too. About just what you were just saying. That's my opinion, too.

SPEAKER_03 26:43

I didn't really have an opinion yet. After that, after she had gotten the brooch on page 113, um Irene was like the gods had vanished, her mother had once claimed, but had they, had it been some god who had visited tonight clothed in the skin of a battered young woman, or had it merely been their distant whispers that prompted the stranger to walk down that alley, she would never know, she supposed. And maybe that was the whole point. Wherever you need to go. Gods or fate or just pure current coincidence and kindness, it was a gift. This was a gift. The world was wide open, wide open, and hers for the taking if she dared. And we know she dared. And then on 115, right after that, um yeah, Selena's POV about leaving that pouch. That was the dog. And she had said she'd planned to leave some coins for Irene anyway, if only because she was certain the innkeeper would make Irene pay for those bandages. But Selena had stood in front of that wooden door to the ki bedroom, listening for her to walk wish listening to her wash her clothes in the nearby kitchen. She found herself unable to turn away and able to stop thinking about the would-be healer with the brown gold hair and caramel eyes, of what Irene had lost and how helpless she'd become. There were so many of them. The children who had lost everything to Ardolin, children who had now grown into assassins and barmaids, without a true place to call home, their native kingdoms left in ruin and ash. Magic had been gone all these years and the gods were dead, or simply didn't care anymore. Yet there, deep in her gut, was a small but insistent tug. A tug to honest a tug on a strand of some invisible web. So Selena decided to tug back just to see how far and wide the reverber reverberations reverberations would go. It was a matter of moments to write that note and then stuff most of her gold into the pouch. So it's funny that Irene was thinking about the gods and how her mom said they had disappeared, but then she was questioning, were they really gone? Because, or did they just come in forms of battered assassins? She didn't know she was an assassin, but battered young woman. And then the next page we see Selena saying she felt a tug and she decided to tug back. So that part you will find as we go on is very, it's like a small detail that ends up being important because all of the characters that become central to the storyline, they all have some type of God following them, pushing them in certain directions to make the story happen. So it's funny that that is where it starts with that tug with Irene.

SPEAKER_01 30:24

The other day I woke up, got out of bed, and I felt a tug. I was like, oh my back.

SPEAKER_03 30:31

Oh, that was me after I planted the garden. I was like, oh, my back. Yeah, we're getting old.

SPEAKER_04 30:45

Cool. Anything to say about the assassin and the healer?

SPEAKER_01 30:49

Uh no, but uh, that's the way I felt too about it. About the people in the story uh progressing it, doing the the tasks, the way that you presented it is how I feel as well.

SPEAKER_04 31:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 31:08

So the next one is the assassin in the desert. What are your initial thoughts on the assassin in the desert? That was the one with the Ansel and the silent assassins. I'm sorry I cannot talk tonight.

SPEAKER_01 31:24

Um, yeah, I thought that it was uh pretty silent and pretty hot, and I felt the same way about them there as I did about them elsewhere progressing the story. So I think story is good.

SPEAKER_03 31:45

Story good, yes. Okay. So we meet Ansel and we meet the silent assassins.

unknown 31:55

Shh.

SPEAKER_03 31:57

A lot of them have taken vows of silence, some of them are permanent, some of them aren't, and then there are also people that have gone to the silent assassins to train with them because they were born without being being able to talk. So it's like a their own little community, and the biggest takeaway I have from this is when the Mute Master had told Selena.

SPEAKER_01 32:22

Mutemaster Flex? Sorry, that's like a that's like an 80s hip hop name. Oh, is it? No, it's not. Oh, but it could be Mutemaster Flex.

SPEAKER_03 32:33

Well, he had told her on page 225 that they they do not abuse their disciples in the desert. And Arabin makes Selena pay back a fortune that he forced her to borrow. And for saving his life, that's when he gifted her the chunks of gold to buy her freedom. But I love how the mute master caught that as soon as he saw her. And then when Selena flinched a couple of times when he put his hand on her chin, or his hand was coming to her chin to direct her gaze to him, like she would flinch. And he would, he would sadly smile. And so he clocked that like right away, definitely with the bruises that still lingered on her face. Um, but I love that he pointed that out. Like he makes you pay back a small fortune that he forced you to borrow. It's like, that's right, mute master.

SPEAKER_01 33:33

What um mute master flex, what type of uh clock did he have?

SPEAKER_04 33:41

He clocked it, he saw it.

SPEAKER_01 33:43

Like flavor flav with a giant clock on his ear.

SPEAKER_04 33:46

Sure.

SPEAKER_02 33:49

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 33:50

Sorry. I think the story was really good. Okay, back to Mute Master Flex.

SPEAKER_03 33:55

So it's funny because out of all the novellas, the Assassin in the Desert is my least favorite. Least favorite. I don't know why. It was just my least favorite. It's always been my least favorite, but it's still pretty good. Um another part that I really liked is when Mikhail asks if she deserved the beating, and her answer was like, it depends on who's telling the story. If my master was telling the story, then yes, I disobeyed him, blah, blah, blah. But if the 200 over 200 slaves I freed were telling the story, then no, I don't deserve it. I didn't deserve it. And everyone went silent.

unknown 34:43

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 34:43

How how she worded that was pretty cool. So Ansoul, um she's Selena's first like real friend, because she never really had a friend. She's only had like competition.

SPEAKER_02 35:04

You've got a friend in me.

SPEAKER_04 35:09

You got a friend in me.

SPEAKER_03 35:15

But because of that, that is why Ansel had sent her into the desert drugged with Cassida or Quesada, the horse that she had helped steal, so she wouldn't be there when her or when Ansel and Lord Baric's men attacked the silent assassins. So, in a way, yes, they were true friends.

SPEAKER_01 35:43

Could you imagine like attacking like a deaf community? That's insane.

SPEAKER_04 35:48

They aren't they all weren't deaf.

SPEAKER_01 35:51

Deaf?

SPEAKER_04 35:52

Deaf.

SPEAKER_01 35:52

Oh, I think you said deaf.

SPEAKER_04 35:54

No, they all weren't deaf. But yeah, that would be insane.

SPEAKER_01 35:58

You go to school for the me. What they're like, mr. Babe. Sorry, I listen to bad podcasts. I have bad influences. I gotta cut that out. I don't have to cut that out. This is my podcast.

SPEAKER_02 36:14

Keep going, boo.

unknown 36:16

Gosh.

SPEAKER_03 36:20

Um, but it's though she was her friend throughout this, Ansel did say a lot of little side comments that were kind of questionable. And one of them was on page. Where was I? I just saw it. Where is it? Oh. Page one forty-six, Ansel teases that they all have a secret, their own secret agenda, all the assassins there. She teases that. And then the next time, or basically right after that, um Lord Bericksman attack. And then every time she visits, she seems happier and happier, even though she's not training with the mute master like Selena is. So there's just some sketchy parts. But there was someone that we met in this one. It was the merchant.

SPEAKER_01 37:41

Was it Gretel?

SPEAKER_03 37:45

Gretel?

SPEAKER_01 37:47

There was Ansel. Is that who we met?

SPEAKER_03 37:54

You're like on a roll to that. I am. I'm sorry. Listen to it.

SPEAKER_01 37:57

I'm sorry. I'm trying to be good. I'm trying to be quiet. This is a really good book. I really like it. One out of two stars. But like.

SPEAKER_03 38:06

You're the comedic relief.

SPEAKER_01 38:09

I held it in a half the pod.

unknown 38:12

Okay, I keep going.

SPEAKER_01 38:14

But I'm gonna hold the rest in. Keep going.

SPEAKER_03 38:16

No. Do you remember meeting the merchant in Xandria? And he he was on his way to the southern continent, but his ship didn't leave for two days.

SPEAKER_01 38:30

He just popped up behind you.

SPEAKER_03 38:34

He's been trying to play with my hair because it's getting longer. And it's like No, he's not gonna pop up. But that merchant, do you remember what he gave her?

SPEAKER_01 38:51

Um Spider Silk. Oh. Yeah. Everything has a cost.

SPEAKER_04 39:02

You remember?

SPEAKER_01 39:03

I remember the whole book. It just sucks. I mean, sorry, no, the whole book's really good. People do things and the story progresses, and the story is there.

SPEAKER_03 39:10

Yeah, but he gives her a six by six by six inch words, a six by six inch piece of spider silk as a reminder that everything has a cost.

SPEAKER_01 39:31

Is that what saved that dude later?

SPEAKER_03 39:34

Yes. We'll get into that.

SPEAKER_01 39:36

I bet. See, I remember.

SPEAKER_03 39:38

But it's it's funny because you meet this really small side character, and it hit all we know is that he's a merchant. He should be in his twenties, but he looks like he's in his 40s, and he gave her spider silk. And you meet him, and it's like, oh, I can forget about him. He gave her spider silk, and that helped her to text Sam later on. But guess what?

unknown 40:03

What?

SPEAKER_03 40:05

He may come back.

SPEAKER_01 40:08

Nice. Cool. So spoiler. Question for you.

SPEAKER_00 40:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:15

If you were given the opportunity to have all the riches in the world.

SPEAKER_04 40:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:24

For 20 years of your life, would you do it? Nope. No.

SPEAKER_04 40:28

Nope.

unknown 40:29

Why?

SPEAKER_04 40:29

Because you only have one life. You want to spend as much of it as you can living. What about you? Would you?

SPEAKER_01 40:37

No, because no, in my luck, they'd be like, yeah, like 20 years, I'm like, sure, let's do it. And then I'd die because you'd be like, you're gonna die in 10 years anyway. Oh crud. So no, I don't know. I don't think I would. But uh, you know, that raised a really good question about like how he said he thought it was gonna go to the end of his life and just shorten it, but instead they took 20 years out of the middle of it, and he progressed from 20 to 45 or 25 to 45 or whatever he said. Um and the whole that did raise a really good question about what would you do? Yeah, if you were presented without opportunity, what would you do?

SPEAKER_03 41:13

Yeah. Well, and that's another thing is like the only way he can get those years back is if the Stiggian spider that took his years and gave him the silk, only if she is killed. And that's why he was talking to Selena too. He was like, You're an assassin. And she's like, hit me up if you're ever back in rift hold. And um it's funny because he asks her Hit me up if you need some bodies. And this is for the people that have read these books. He asks her to go to the Rune Mountains to slay the spider for him, and the rune mountains are called the Rune Mountains, and there's another character in the massiverse called Rune Danin. Yay. So just side note for the people who like the massiverse. Cool.

SPEAKER_04 42:08

Okay, Rune Dannin.

SPEAKER_03 42:14

Okay, so we basically went over everything in there, even if I went said it before we got to the assassin in the desert. So now let's go to the assassin in the underworld. So when she gets back, we actually get an interact with Arabin, and he is a manipulative person. I could say a lot of mean things, but we're on a podcast. What were your thoughts of Arabin?

SPEAKER_01 42:53

Um I thought he was manipulative, and there was a lot of things that I could say about him, but we're on a podcast. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 43:03

Sounds good. So he like continued to give her like gifts and gifts and gifts. And when she first returned, she was ready to say, Here's my money, I don't owe you anything. And he held up that finger, acted like he was going through his paperwork, even though he had a party upstairs. So he knew she was in town, and he basically set up that whole scene to throw her off her game. And um yeah. Throughout this one in the next novella, he uses specific words to like kind of irk her or specific situations like with Lysandra. We meet Lysandra here. She's kind of reminds me of Caltaine in a way. From the through in a the first two books. Someone that we seem to not like.

SPEAKER_01 44:04

So that's what I thought too.

SPEAKER_03 44:08

Yeah. It's one of those girls that you just don't want to be around, right? But some of us know other things.

SPEAKER_00 44:16

He.

SPEAKER_01 44:17

So insider information.

SPEAKER_03 44:20

Yeah, insider information. You're gonna read some things later on that are gonna be great. Um, so one of the gifts that he gives her is the suit from the trinketer slash inventor from Melisande, Melisandre, Melisandre words. I read it, I didn't hear it, sorry. And he that was the suit with the blades in it and everything, right? And um, she asked him to put the spider silk over the heart in one of the suits, and he's like, Yeah, I can do that. And then later Sam gets an arrow to his chest when they're ta taking out Donovan, and he said, No wonder the suit was so damned expensive. And it's funny because she never told Sam that she had the inventor put that in there. She never told him. That she's the reason he's alive in that situation. That's one of her silent gifts and one of her acts of kindness, where she's like, No, he doesn't need to know I put that in there. That was just for her.

SPEAKER_01 45:34

That's what I thought too. Then he died.

SPEAKER_03 45:37

We're not there yet. My bad. I mean, we knew he was gonna die from throwing a glass, but Oh, so sad. But one thing I want to point out is in on in chapter five, they're at the Harvest Moon party thrown by Leafer. And on page 282, four young men joined the party in masks. Did you catch that? Who they were?

SPEAKER_02 46:19

No.

SPEAKER_03 46:20

One was dark-haired, one was lighthaired, the lighthaired one had a sword and seemed to follow the dark-haired one around. Dark haired one asked Selena if she wanted to dance. That was Dorian and Kale. So they met Sam and they n Dorian, Kale, and Selena don't realize when they all get together and throw in a glass that they met Sam. It's kind of heartbreaking because they both heard about Sam and how important he was to her in throwing a glass. She's like Yeah, okay. But I like also in that situation, like that's when Sam becomes more protective, too. Because throughout these novellas, we've seen Selena keep thinking about Sam before she actually laid eyes on him again, wondering how he was. She remembered what had happened and how he said I'd kill you to Araban when she was being beaten, all that. But in this situation, he goes up to Dorian and says she's spoken for, and Dorian walks away. So that's another instance of him being like protective because she was drunk then. Yeah, just when I point that out.

SPEAKER_01 47:49

So we don't know that that's who it was then, though.

SPEAKER_04 47:52

Oh, you want me to read it?

SPEAKER_01 47:54

No, I don't. But I'm just asking the question do we know? Did they tell us that that's it was Dorian?

SPEAKER_03 48:01

No, but based off the description, and she knew that they were noblemen looking for a fun night in Ruthold.

SPEAKER_01 48:09

But there's no concrete fact saying that was Dorian. You just have to put your little context clues, yeah. Little book mind to work.

SPEAKER_03 48:19

Yeah. And then um Sarah J. Mass doesn't do anything for no reason. She wouldn't have put that scene in there. She would have shown Sam protective in a different way.

SPEAKER_02 48:33

So type stuff.

SPEAKER_03 48:40

Excuse me. When she was caught by the bodyguard, Philip, and tied to the chair in the sewers. And we had a little snippet the day before when they were tracking them. She heard overheard people saying that rooftoad guards or people were gonna flood the sewers to take out all the trash to the Avery. And then the next night he catches her and ties her in the chair in the sewers. That whole scene was crazy. Like imagine feeling things hit you in water you can't see beneath. It stinks. You have cuts on yourself, and then you're about to drown, and you can't get a grate open. Like that that scene was crazy.

SPEAKER_01 49:34

Yeah, that's that's what I thought. I thought the characters in the scene portrayed the scene well to make the story go forward, and the story was good, so I was like, whoa. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 49:47

The only crappy part about it though is Ha. Crappy part. Because she's in the sewer. That was not intentional.

SPEAKER_01 49:59

I know because I just went, ha, and then you had to think about it for a split second and said, I made a phony. Good job, boo. Everybody, this is my boo. This is what I live with every day. This boo.

SPEAKER_02 50:17

Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 50:24

Um crappy sewers, yeah. Okay, what else do you guys?

SPEAKER_03 50:35

That would be crappy. Okay. But she said, take my body home to Terrace and Sam, because she thought she was gonna die. And like when you get to that point, it's like if you were in a situation like that and you were away from your homeland, and that was your final wish. I don't know, it just it hit for me. It it just yeah, it hit. Okay, so after Sam tells her he loves her on accident, he like it burst from him. And um she basically tells him she has feelings for it back and she would choose him over Arabin. Um on page 315, in the silence of her bedroom, she swore an oath to the moonlight that if Sam were hurt, no force in the world would hold her back from slaughtering everyone responsible. That's a real good foreshadowing right there. Just wanted to point it out. But when she finally catches the partner that Donival was hanging out with or meeting with, and she saw his documents, that's when she started to question if Philip was telling the truth. Like she didn't know what was really going on. And it was horrible that Araban had lied to her about the job, and that was his additional punishment for costing him so much money in Skulls Bay because it wasn't Donaval trying to set up a slave trade, he was trying to stop it and set up safe houses.

SPEAKER_01 52:25

Killed the wrong person.

SPEAKER_03 52:26

Yeah. That was horrible. And now the assassin and the empire. There are a couple things I want to point out, and then we're basically done. After they fight about him fighting in the fighting pits, he comes up behind her and hugs her. And he smells like her lavender soap. And he had said, I just want to be with you, and she all she could smell was her expensive lavender soap. And then when she tries to continue to argue, even though she's not really arguing, she tries to say, and you use my lavender soap, don't ever do that. And then Sam cut kisses her to cut her off. Um and then when she is laying next to his body after he passes, um she made a point to say he smelled like that cheap soap I made him use. She was thinking that, and I was it makes you think like what is worth it to keep your loved one from like, I don't know, like using like if you want to use my shampoo, I like to use my shampoo.

SPEAKER_01 53:50

So that's what I was thinking about the whole time because I actually I actually used it this morning when I heard that. And uh I did. And uh I wanted to tell you that that new Korean shampoo that we got is really nice. Um it's made my hair grow really long, but it's it is the age old, age old for millennials and stuff, age-old joke of oh uh he got of the shower not smell uh smell like my stuff and not his 20 in one deodorant, hair care, body care, oil care.

SPEAKER_03 54:27

See, it's funny. If I was if I could get something like that for me, I would, but everything that's like that is only for guys. Yeah. That I found. And I don't like it. All the same stuff.

unknown 54:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:39

That's like But every now and then I want to feel fancy. I want to feel cute.

SPEAKER_04 54:43

Well, you can use my stuff.

SPEAKER_01 54:45

Feel it. It's really soft. I did use it this morning.

unknown 54:47

It is a flower.

SPEAKER_01 54:52

You even put on the baby beard, made it soft. The baby beard.

SPEAKER_02 54:55

But to hear that, I was like, hey, hey, our new shampoo is really nice.

unknown 55:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 55:03

Story is really good.

SPEAKER_03 55:04

Just know lavender soap is gonna come up again. And it's really sad.

SPEAKER_02 55:12

But lavender soap seventeen.

SPEAKER_04 55:18

It's strawberry wine. Seventeen. Hot Jula moon soil.

SPEAKER_02 55:26

Hot Jula shower. In between. The first scene of love. Leavender.

SPEAKER_03 55:38

Sorry. Another point I want to point out is that chapter three. Sam wants to keep Selena away from Farron, the sadistic one, and says he'll take him out while Selena takes out Jane later. He said, I found this client, so we're doing Wait, who's that?

SPEAKER_01 55:58

Jane's head?

SPEAKER_03 56:00

Jane's head.

SPEAKER_02 56:05

Sam's done. We're surging. Sorry. I'm I'm not.

SPEAKER_03 56:12

Um I found this client, so we're doing it my way. If it's because I'm responsible for this hire and because you don't always get to make the rules. Page 369.

SPEAKER_02 56:26

Okay, I'm sorry. I'm done. I'm done.

SPEAKER_01 56:28

Okay. Books really good. Story's good. Character good. Boo's doing a good job, Go Boo. He's we're almost we got this, dude.

SPEAKER_03 56:37

Yeah, we're almost there.

SPEAKER_01 56:38

We got this.

SPEAKER_03 56:39

So he said that. And this is the first time she is letting someone other than Arabin or herself, well, other than herself, because Arabin just gives her the client, but this is the first time she's letting someone else direct what she does. She typically makes the plans for her contracts, you know? And the first time she lets someone else take the lead, he gets killed. Sam dies. And that we're gonna see something about her and planning in the future. And there this is why. This is why. I'm not going further into that, just know that this is why. And it is so sad, it's not sad, but it is sad that Sam had such an impact on her that it affects the rest of this, these books. And then after Arabin had asked if Sam asked Selena, after Arabin asked Selena if Sam knows about where she came from, and she wants to tell Sam who she is, but instead she asks him what his deeper seek deepest secret is. And he loved her, that was it. Her, she's a coward. And that's what Nahima had called her, by the way. And Sam tells her when he's afraid, he tells himself, My name is Sam Cortland, and I will not be afraid. And the first time we see her you or the second time we see her use that it was the second time, is when she is sobbing in the carriage or the prison wagon. It was the prison wagon. And she was sobbing because of Sam. She was sobbing because of his death. And she'd never be ready for Endovir. And then she felt a breeze, and the breeze smelt like pine and snow, which is what Tarrison smells like. And she thought she must stand up or be bro or she would be broken before she ever got inside Endovir. And that was the second time she said, My name is Selena Sardothian, and I will not be afraid. And you saw in Throne of Glass, she kept saying, My name is Selena Sardothian, and I will not be afraid. Then you saw it in Crown of Midnight. So already his impact is seen later in her life.

SPEAKER_00 59:29

I agree with that.

SPEAKER_03 59:30

Side note, the only time we have seen her in the three books we've read look into the king's eyes is when she had her trial. And her requ when he she had her request of make it quick. And that's when he sent her into Andovier instead. And the last thing I want to talk about is Farron and Arabin standing on the roof watching her prison wagon leave, riftold. Do you remember that scene? So they watch her prison wagon leave, and Arabin had planned to save her at the butchering block. That's what his plan had been. That's what Farron said.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:19

I remember the I remember the king saying that when she said make it quick, he was like, Oh, you want to die, you're not gonna die. Then uh I was spraying out my kettle when that was happening. And uh and then the next day she was like it was like gray. It was like several like weeks later, like it took several days or weeks or something to get out to where it was. Yeah, it takes a couple weeks. I missed the little part about somebody watching it. Sorry.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:46

Um that's okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:47

This is where we I agree with them. No, you don't stories bad. Bad no, I don't agree with them, man. Yeah, I don't agree with them.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:56

Selena was wondering who set me up. It wasn't Wesley, he tried to warn her, and then here you see Arabin say, or Farrin asks why he did it. Why did he set Selena up? Why did he say you can kill Sam all so I could get my new crown as the crime lord of Rifthold? Because he accepted it so he could be the top dog instead of number two. And Arabin said, Because I don't like to share my belongings, meaning his belonging is Selena. He didn't want to share her or lose her to Sam. So he had Sam killed.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:40

Doesn't he make a good man would?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:43

We hate Arabin.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:45

Oh, I mean, as uh like at you know.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:49

And she is not belonging.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:52

Right, you're right.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:53

So you know she's told him you don't own me anymore after she paid him off because that was their whole thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:57

Yeah, she she bought herself, so yeah, you don't know what I mean.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:02

But Arabin, just take my we don't like Arabin.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:09

I agree with you.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:10

He could fall off a cliff.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:13

Yeah, did you hear that? Go ball off a cliff.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:16

Yeah. But yeah, he doesn't like sharing his belongings. That's why he had Sam killed and doesn't care that Selena's being shipped off to Endovir. Stupid.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:31

Okay, so excuse me.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:39

What was your rating for the novellas?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:48

Let's go back to the original. I'll give it a one. Cool.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:53

So if I like this better than throw it in a glass. So if I had no knowledge of it and I've read it for the first time, it'd be a 2.9, but with my knowledge, it's a 3.9. Now, my question to you is do you want a break from the series or do you want to read something different? Like for or not read, sorry, reword that. Yes, please do reword that break from the series and to read something different, or do you want to keep going to the next one?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:26

I would like a break, at least for a week. I just need a week for my mind to get off of this.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:32

That's okay. This is a lot, and it's not your cup of tea.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:35

It's not.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:36

So, do you want to see what else I picked out in case you needed a break? Kind of worried. I think you'll like this one. So we are gonna read. You picked this out, by the way. I've never read this. I don't know if you have or not. I think maybe you have, but we're gonna read Can't Hurt Me by David Goggins. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:06

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:08

So, do you want to read what it's about?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:10

Good refresh. Yeah, I can try.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:12

I've never I've never read this, so have you read this?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:15

Excuse me. Yes. Uh read, no, I have listened.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:19

Um that's why you wanted me to read it. Yeah. Because you've listened to it.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:23

Okay. Because you said if you read it, I get to keep it and it goes in my collection. So that's why I was like, yeah, boo, you should.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:29

I really still kind of want to steal your Charlemagne the God book. Because that one was really good.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:36

What do you mean, steal it?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:38

Like put it on my shelf.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:41

I won't, I won't. Okay, go read. Tell us what this one's about.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:45

It's my book.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:46

It was so good.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:50

David Goggins is a being of pure will and inspiration. Just listening to this guy talk makes you want to run a mountain. I firmly believe people like him can change the course of the world just by inspiring us to push harder and dig deeper in everything we do. His goal to be uncommon amongst uncommon people is something we can all use to propel ourselves to fulfill our true potential. I'm better, I'm a better man having met him. Joe Rogan, stand-up comedian and host of the J R E.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:25

Oh, Joe Rogan.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:26

Joe Rogan.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:28

I always think of fear factor.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:32

OG J R E. Um, and somebody else said, David Goggins lives out every goal, every dream, no matter what. Period. He's unstoppable. There's no limit to him because he doesn't live in a comfort zone. His mental and physical capacity are equal. Goggins proves that your body can't handle anything if you put your mind to it. I see, I messed that up. Anything if you let your mind keep. Keep up. If I just kept rolling with it, nobody would have known. There's no way to stop something or someone that doesn't understand the concept of being beat. Marcus Luttrell, retired Navy SEAL author of New York Times bestseller, Lone Survivor. Also have that. Okay, so those were the blurbs. So this book, Can't Hurt Me, says for David Goggins, childhood was a nightmare. Poverty, prejudice, and physical physical abuse. I'm gonna try that again. For David Goggins, childhood was a nightmare. Poverty, prejudice, and physical abuse colored his days and haunted his nights. But through self-discipline, mental toughness, and hard work, Goggins transformed himself into a depressed, sorry, from a depressed, not to a depressed, from a depressed, overweight young man who know with no future in the U.S. Armed Forces to one of the world's top endurance athletes. The only man in history to complete elite training as a Navy SEAL, Army Ranger, and Air Force Tactical Air Controller. He went on to set records in numerous endurance events, inspiring outside magazine to name him the fittest real man in America. And can't hurt me. He shares his astonishing life story and reveals that most of us tap out, tap into only 40% of our capacities, capabilities. Another one I should just roll through. Okay, better. Goggins calls the top the 40% rule. And his story uh illuminates a path that anyone can follow to push past pain, demolish fear, and reach their full potential. David Goggins is a retired Navy SIL and has completed in more than 60 ultramarathons, triathlons, and ultra triathlons, setting new course records and regularly placing in a top five. A former Guinness World Record holder for completing completing 4,030 pull-ups in 17 hours. He is a much sought after public speaker who shared his like your head just going, shared his story with the staffs of Fortune 500 companies, professional sports teams, and hundreds of thousands of students across the country.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:28

So he's a robot.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:30

Pretty much, because this dude How can you do that? He he will mess his knee up, his legs up, everything up, and just keep going. Right here, look, I just opened it up in the form of pain and exhaustion, but also fear and insecurity. And it uses all those to encourage us to not stop before we risk it all. But here's the thing it doesn't have to absolutely control, unlike the governor in our engine, ours or an engine, ours can stop us unless we buy into some bullshit and agree to quit.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:04

I like how you got so excited reading that. Yeah. And this whole podcast, you're like, yeah, I agree with you.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:13

Well, because that story had characters that progressed the story really well. That I agreed with everything that you said because, you know.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:24

Well, do we do we so the question is do we like Arabin?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:28

No.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:28

Good job. Okay, I'm excited to read this. Okay, so this one is it?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:33

I'm about to tell you. This one I should have looked. Okay. Uh 363 pages if we read the page about the author. 362. So, and also it's kind of big, big text. Oh, yeah, that's big. Um, and there's pictures.

unknown 1:09:50

Oh.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:50

Not too many pictures. Oh, that was him as a big guy.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:54

Yep. He used to do like pest control and all this stuff. He seems so fit there too, though. He really transformed himself, and uh I I I take it as inspiration. I don't run ultra marathons. I ran in high school.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:08

But uh you did the rugged maniac.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:10

Yeah, but that's not an old that's totally different. You will figure it out. That's totally different in this. But uh, I ran in high school, did all that stuff, but like just listening to his story, I'm like, man, even though I don't do all that stuff now, it still pushes me to do things in my mind and like pass that.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:25

Yeah. Woo!

SPEAKER_01 1:10:26

Okay. Um cameras are dying, people appreciate you. Peace. Peace.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:32

Happy Mother's Day. Follow us. Give us book recommendations for when JD needs another break.