Can't Hurt Me | Episode 20

WARNING: THIS PODCAST HAS SPOILERS

Join us for our version of book club as we dive into different books and tasty libations every Thursday!

This week we learned David Goggins' autobiography detailing his transformation from a troubled, overweight young man to a U.S. Armed Forces icon and elite endurance athlete, offering lessons on mental toughness and unlocking human potential through extreme discipline, overcoming hardship, and pushing past perceived limits, famously encapsulated in his "40% Rule". 

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SPEAKER_00 0:00

Hey boo! How you doing? I'm tired. I'm rather with you. I'm a tar. I'm a tard.

SPEAKER_02 0:12

Don't make fun of my tired accent.

SPEAKER_00 0:15

Um are you excited for today's episode? Sure. I think today's our 20th.

SPEAKER_03 0:22

Yeah. I think you're right. I could be wrong, but I think you're right.

SPEAKER_00 0:27

I don't pull up YouTube, but I think last I think last ep was the 19th. Um let's see. Yeah, 20th. So this is our 20th book this year.

SPEAKER_01 0:40

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 0:41

Wow. I don't think I would ever would have thought. I don't think I ever would have thought. Okay, I'm sorry. I still see your bookmark.

unknown 0:49

Boop.

SPEAKER_01 0:50

I got it.

SPEAKER_00 0:52

Uh I never would have thought that I would have listened to 20 books in a year. Yeah. Um maybe like one a month, because I have one credit per month on Audible. Um and I've had that for years, like two years, maybe, three years. But uh never 20. Like that's a that's a lot.

SPEAKER_03 1:15

So leave that down. There you go.

SPEAKER_00 1:24

Can't hurt me. Um but so yeah, cool. I'm really excited because yeah, 20 is a big number, milestone um for pods. We're doing, you know, we're doing it, boo. We're doing it. Uh let's see, a year will be 52. Yeah. So we're almost 52. Wait, 52. We're we're almost halfway there.

unknown 1:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:53

I had a math there for a sec. I was like, I pulled a boo there for a sec. I couldn't have math. I was like, how? Um, yeah, so okay, cool. Well, I'm sorry. I got excited. No, it's exciting. I'm gonna get excited about the beer too. So let me jump into this before we talk about the the book. Um this is called The Slow Poor Pills by Beerstad. Beerstad.

SPEAKER_03 2:17

Um you're excited now.

SPEAKER_00 2:20

We went there, and that was the first time that we had heard about Beerstad. Um it is in Denver, Colorado. We went there for a beer convention a few years ago, and yeah, and we were invited to a uh uh a beer tasting beer event at the brewery by the yeast people that we played with in a disc golf event. Yeah. Do you remember that?

SPEAKER_03 2:43

Yes, yep. So we won.

SPEAKER_00 2:46

We did, we won the mixed amateurs because we are mixed, you know, I'm a girl, he's a guy. Yep. Um coed. Um, we won some cool discs, and then I actually won both of the CTPs as well.

SPEAKER_02 3:00

So what's a CTP?

SPEAKER_00 3:01

Closest to the pen. Oh, yeah. They always do CTPs uh or ace runs afterwards to the practice baskets, or they pick a hole or basket, and uh I won both that year. So that was a good year there for us.

SPEAKER_03 3:12

And every time we do that with them, we are always the ones that travel the furthest. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:18

We have been. Yeah, I'm sure we won't be forever, but we have been pretty, pretty good at that. Um, shout out Hawk Passport for putting that on. They came to Georgia a month and a half ago and did their Georgia event. This was their third year, I believe. Um, it's always a fun event. So uh we we did it in Colorado twice now.

SPEAKER_03 3:39

We've done it twice together.

SPEAKER_00 3:40

Yeah, so twice in Colorado. Um, but they travel all over the the states, um, different beer events. They they have a beer passport, and you can look them up hot passport. But uh yeah, so um so uh yeast supplier that we were playing with, they were on our card, they told us about their event, and they only beer stout only uses their yeast because apparently one of the owners owns the yeast company too, or did, or there's some sort of connection like that. Um, and the slow pour pills is apparently like one of the most sought after in the United States. Um, I've never had it from a can. We've only had it on draft. It does good, it was very good. I have pictures of it. Um, I sent it to Dean the other day. Um, I've never had it from can, so we'll see how it is. Uh, I don't know if it will take seven minutes to pour here or however long it takes, but yeah, we'll we'll see. So um while I'm doing that, will you give us the word of the week?

SPEAKER_03 4:37

Yeah. So I kind of have two, but they're kind of like phrases. But I figured they'd Words of the Week? Yeah. I I figured it'd match the book because he was in the military. So for those of you that don't know, Hell Week. This is the first one. It's five and a half days of it's a five and a half day stretch during BUDs, which is basic underwater demolition. So this is Navy SEALs where candidates must endure continuous physical activity with less than four hours of total sleep. My second one is a phrase I call and it's embrace the suck. It's a common mindset of consciously accepting and finding value in extremely difficult or miserable situations. And I figured that fits well because David Goggins always embraces the suck.

SPEAKER_00 5:44

I like that. Um I um the they don't have much on the the beer label right here. It just says team slow poor, logger hair, logger hard. Um I was hoping they have some information, but they don't.

SPEAKER_03 6:06

They're too cool for information.

SPEAKER_00 6:17

The clarity is the clarity is super nice. Um very brilliant.

SPEAKER_03 6:24

It still tastes good out of a can.

SPEAKER_00 6:27

It does, and it definitely was not a slow pour, that was just a normal pour. Oh yeah. I'm glad that I saw that. So shout out, real quick. Shout out to Cum Heller High Water in Cartersville, Georgia.

SPEAKER_02 6:49

Is that where you got it?

SPEAKER_00 6:50

It is. I was there getting coffee a couple days ago because they have a coffee shop in the back. Um, and I walked up while the barista was making my cold brew. And uh I saw this in their beer selection, so I was like, I'm gonna have to come back and get it. So tonight I did just for the show because it reminded me of Denver. So shout out them for having some good beers. Uh, other than drowned valley, shout out drowned valley. Other than us, uh, they do have the best craft beer in Cartersville. So they really do. Um shout out them. I'm shouting a lot of people out right now. Shout out, shout out. Okay. Um, so Hell Week comes up in the book this week. Yes. And then the second one was Embrace the Suck. That comes up this week too.

SPEAKER_03 7:38

I don't know, I don't remember if it did, but his mindset is basically that.

SPEAKER_00 7:43

Pretty much, yeah. Um, this week we did Can't Hurt Me. Do you think that the book was good?

SPEAKER_03 7:52

I liked his writing style and then like reading his story was pretty cool, but still not my favorite.

SPEAKER_00 8:02

Okay. I know we'll get to the rating at the end, so don't give me a rating yet. But better or worse than Charlemagne?

SPEAKER_02 8:12

Worse.

SPEAKER_00 8:13

Okay. Expected because that Charlemagne's was your your pinnacle. That's your that's what that's your.

SPEAKER_03 8:19

I looked at my rating for Charlemagne's book and it was a three. And that one's still my favorite out of all the books of like this that we've read. Okay. And so I of course had to rate this lower, but we'll get to that later.

SPEAKER_00 8:33

Okay. Um, well, I was very fortunate to have listened to the book, and uh what they did in the audio part was it's an audiobook slash podcast slash radio show, and that's what they say in the very beginning. And it's really cool because they go through, and I say they, um apparently there was a ghostwriter, I believe is what he says in the very beginning of the audio part. Uh, his name's Adam, and he narrates the book, and they sit in a studio for five days while he's narrating it, and then he breaks away sometimes, Adam the narrator, and asks David questions, like, hey man, let's break that down. Uh, like that's a crazy story, and like a lot of people are gonna say that's not true, and he's like, Yeah, you know, a lot of people won't, so that's why we had to verify it like 28 different ways, and uh so for me it was really cool. It made the book longer to listen to, but it made it more enjoyable or digestible, maybe is the word. Um, instead of just going through and just reading about his life and and like that. So you have a totally different aspect on it, especially reading that. Yeah, I got narration along with it.

SPEAKER_03 9:49

Well, I didn't hear his. I think like I for Charlemagne's book, like in Matthew McConnell Hayes' books. Um, I knew their voice. I don't know David Goggins' voice. Gotcha. So that also helped a bit with those two.

SPEAKER_00 10:05

Maybe, maybe I should have played something of with his voice. Who's gonna carry the boats? Or something. Um okay, well, he had. Did you have so since we did have different experiences, it's gonna be kind of different trying to go through everything. You had the chapters.

SPEAKER_03 10:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:26

Did you have challenges?

SPEAKER_03 10:28

I I have all the challenges written down, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:31

Okay, so you had 10 challenges? Yeah. Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_03 10:34

Or yes.

SPEAKER_00 10:38

Okay. There should be, I think there's 10. Um, okay, so that was one thing that I could thought was cool about it, and I think that we could dive into more rather than going into his life story and the writing of the book, unless you want to dive into that.

SPEAKER_03 10:54

Well, I figured we'd just go section by section or chapter by chapter, like we did with Charlemagne. Yeah, and then Matthew's book. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 11:03

Could you move your s your poll over so I could see your mouth? Sorry, I can't see your mouth. It makes it kind of hard to see here.

SPEAKER_03 11:10

Sorry, I'm leaning back today.

SPEAKER_00 11:11

Yeah. Okay, thank you. Now I can see your mouth. Now I can lip read. Okay, keep going.

SPEAKER_03 11:18

I just think that makes it easier because it goes with his story and then each challenge that comes after.

unknown 11:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 11:24

What do you have for chapter one then? Or sorry, let's start in the foreword. What do you have for the foreword?

SPEAKER_03 11:31

It's a warning order. That's what I have.

SPEAKER_00 11:36

A warning order?

SPEAKER_03 11:37

Yeah. I showed it to you. I'm like, was this in your podcast? It looks like this. So I guess this is what they do in military. But it's like it's a warning order. That wasn't what's in there. I don't know if people can see that. But basically it's warning order, time zone 24-7, task organization, solo mission. One, situation. You are in danger of living a life so comfortable and soft that you will die without ever realizing your true potential. Two, mission. To unshackle your mind, ditch the victim's mentality forever. Own all aspects of your life completely, build an unbreakable foundation. Three, execution, blah blah blah. Four classified. And then by command of Daven Goggins. It's it was pretty cool introduction to a book, I will say that.

SPEAKER_00 12:34

Was that the only foreword?

SPEAKER_03 12:36

Uh yeah. Well, I got an introduction, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 12:39

Yeah, what okay. Maybe it was a forward introduction.

SPEAKER_03 12:42

What's a foreword again? Basically the same thing.

SPEAKER_00 12:46

Wait, same thing as what? A c introduction or what you just read? Oh, okay. I wasn't sure. I thought the foreword was an introduction, because I think it just said forward when they were reading it, but he probably said forward, read that, or did something. So I just wanted to make sure I was right. Make sure I was right. That's not what I meant. Make sure that I knew what it means.

unknown 13:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 13:09

Um, so do you have anything for the introduction? If all you or did you just have uh the warning?

SPEAKER_03 13:18

I just have do you know who you really are and what you're capable of? Denial is the ultimate comfort zone. It's time to go to war with yourself.

SPEAKER_00 13:29

I like that. Take ownership of your life was my main takeaway. So um uh okay. Well, what about chapter one?

SPEAKER_03 13:40

Well, it's titled I should have I should've been a statistic. I'm just saying his home life with his dad. We should like if it was legal, just push him down the stairs. Like how he tr I hate people like that. How you treat your family like that it's horrible.

SPEAKER_00 14:03

Yeah. But he didn't dwell on the past, he used it as fuel for his future. Yeah. He did for a while, you know, but then when he was a kid, yeah, but he was able to figure out ways to overcome it, which is a cool, cool thing.

SPEAKER_03 14:17

Yeah. But his childhood I couldn't imagine that.

SPEAKER_00 14:24

In in that um, they talk a lot about his mom.

SPEAKER_03 14:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:28

And I say they, I'm sorry, because I had two people talking. So I I say they, sorry. In the book, he talks a lot about his mom and how they left together, him and his mom, and how his brother stayed with the dad.

SPEAKER_03 14:40

It's crazy to me.

SPEAKER_00 14:41

Yep. Um, and then after that, you find out later on in the book that they didn't really have a connection after that for like 15 years or something, until there were some things going on. So we'll get to that later. But um, it's crazy because my life's never been like that. I've never put up with anything that he's had to do his that his dad was doing to him. Um it would be crazy to you know have a Rolls-Royce and go to the skating rink and uh have the dad with the the powne the seat and uh you know all that.

SPEAKER_03 15:17

But he worked them like slaves, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:20

Child labor. Yep, yep. Um they mentioned I see there I go again with the they they do mention it though because they recap every chapter. So they do mention that the chapter is a lot about his mom's journey and uh not just his. And uh the challenge one was like figure out what's standing in our way to get where you we want to be, uh, be your own hero. Uh no one will do it for you. That's why it's called self-discipline.

SPEAKER_03 15:52

So I got what are your current what are the current factors limiting your growth and success? List your excuses as to why you won't reach your goals or amount to anything. Share with someone or acknowledge it personally.

SPEAKER_04 16:07

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 16:09

I think uh let's see, my bad cards arrived early and stuck around for a while, but everyone gets challenged in life at some point. What was my what was your bad hand? What kind of bull crap did you can uh contend with growing up? Were you beaten, abused, bullied? Did you ever feel insecure? Maybe your limiting factor is that you grew up so supported and comfortable, you were never pushed yourself, or you never pushed yourself. What are your current factors limiting your growth and success? So yeah. Um don't worry about that yet. We'll get there, blah, blah, blah. Um yeah. So when that when you read that, did you think anything? After reading his story and then coming to it, and you're like, all right, cool. What are what are some of the things? Because his mom had things in her way.

SPEAKER_01 16:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:59

So you thought about them?

SPEAKER_01 17:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:02

Yeah. Do you think that after reading this book, you'll take any of these things, any of the 10 things away and try to utilize them? Because that's what I do when I like that's why I like these books, this style of book. Seeing what somebody else went through, learning from that, and then trying to utilize it in my life. And not everything. I don't have to agree with everything, but I pick and choose where I'm like, okay, cool. I think that I could take this and maybe mold it this way.

SPEAKER_03 17:27

I wrote one down one that I didn't agree with.

SPEAKER_00 17:29

You're okay, cool. I'm excited when we get there for you to discuss that. Um, well, as long as you thought about things and it makes you think, I guess that's the point of the book.

SPEAKER_03 17:39

Well, one thing I'm not comfortable sharing, but the other thing I've already shared on the podcast. Yeah. Since I was 11, I've had fibromyalgia. Yeah. Yeah, it's I don't use it as an excuse, but that's something I've had to accept and deal with and push past. And I have to confront my feelings about it on a daily basis, and then nope, still gonna do what I got can do.

SPEAKER_00 18:03

Yeah. I mean, the world, unfortunately, the world is gonna continue to spin. Yeah. And or the you know, it's gonna it is it's gonna keep going, and what you choose to do about your situation is in your hands. You can choose to sit down and not do anything, or you could choose to get up and do things and go camping and go hiking four miles around the lake, you know.

SPEAKER_03 18:27

So like we went camping last weekend.

SPEAKER_00 18:30

And we went hiking a couple weeks before that, so not together.

SPEAKER_03 18:33

Oh, it's definitely sore after both, but it's okay.

SPEAKER_00 18:36

Yeah, but you did it, you know.

SPEAKER_03 18:37

So um well, I'd rather live life than let pain hold me back, right?

SPEAKER_00 18:43

Because that pain's gonna be gone eventually, and so are you when I'm dead, yeah. And so are you, so uh better to do it now and and take control of it and as much as you can. So yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:57

Well, what about you though? Same, did you think of anything?

SPEAKER_00 19:00

Uh I did, and and like I've already full transparency to everybody. I've already listened to this book a while back, years ago, I think, when I first got the app. I think it was probably one of the first books that I got for the app.

SPEAKER_03 19:13

Yeah, and it's um during my birthday. You saw this, you're like, oh can we get this?

SPEAKER_00 19:17

Yeah. Um because now we have the hard copy, it will go on my shelf once we uh do our reading our studio remodel. Yeah, that's gonna be fun. Yeah, I'm excited for that. Um but I did, and so I did back then, and then now it's changed years later. It has changed because excuse me.

SPEAKER_03 19:36

You've grown up.

SPEAKER_00 19:37

I've grown up and like things that are you know, what were standing in my way, or like figure out what's standing in my way and figure out where I want to be. Back then was probably more I don't ex remember exactly, but it was probably more of like a okay, cool. I want to be at this level with the brewery. Yeah, be at this level level level financially or or something like that. That sounds like something I would be at the stage that I listened to this.

SPEAKER_03 20:04

That makes sense. Um definitely with you, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:07

And it's I guess it's actually almost the same, but now those stages are just different. Um, because I I've done things with the brewery and I've missed things that I've wanted to do. So thinking about those things is like, okay, cool. Well, those are kind of some of the things, and then later on, we'll get to some of what I'm kind of talking about, not really like go into details with the brewery, but just like how it was like all connected. That's where I wanted to be. It didn't happen, so it was kind of a failure, but later it's like, oh, failure's not failure. So like we'll get there too. But uh so yes, I did think of things, so yeah. But I'm glad you did too.

SPEAKER_03 20:49

So yeah, I mean, well, anytime I read it, doesn't matter what type of book it is, it doesn't matter if it's a thriller, if historical fiction, or fiction, or it doesn't matter. It's when I read something and I usually connect with it, usually it always gets your mind thinking, no matter what it is. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:12

So well then I guess we can move on to chapter two.

SPEAKER_03 21:17

Truth hurts.

SPEAKER_00 21:18

Truth hurts. Um, what do you have for this?

SPEAKER_03 21:22

Wilmonth.

SPEAKER_00 21:25

Wilmouth.

SPEAKER_03 21:26

Irving. Wilmouth Irving. They finally found someone that could be a father figure and someone supporting his mom, and then he had to go and he was he was shot down.

SPEAKER_00 21:41

Um they had moved away, they had gone through a lot of things, and like you just said, they did her his mom found somebody, and uh they were supposed to move in, and um see, like I said, I was trying to go for more of like

SPEAKER_03 22:00

Like the challenge, or like like the breakdown of each well, and the next thing, oh, you want to go to the challenge and then break it down in his plus us.

SPEAKER_00 22:08

Well, I'm my mind's trying to go to the challenge. So, like, I wanted to go straight there just now, but I don't I don't want to. I want to go through the chapter first and then the challenge to see how he gets to those.

SPEAKER_03 22:19

Because I have more to say about the chapter.

SPEAKER_00 22:21

See, I don't. So I was about to I was about to say it. So that's why I was like, oh wait, no, no, no. I want to go straight there. You don't. So okay, you do it.

SPEAKER_03 22:27

Well, him talking about where was it? Maybe this is the next chapter.

SPEAKER_00 22:38

He's you know, while you're finding that I got it.

SPEAKER_03 22:41

You got it. So this is where his cheating starts. Well, cheating started in class.

SPEAKER_00 22:46

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:47

Or yeah, just and that's what got him into all AP classes. And then all of the racism he faced. Like I can never understand why people treat others differently because the color of their skin. It's so freaking ridiculous.

SPEAKER_00 23:10

I think it's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 23:11

But I liked how he was like, I mess with the racists at school. Like, you do it, you do it, David.

SPEAKER_00 23:20

You you do it, David.

SPEAKER_03 23:23

Um, but after that, that really got him into the I think accountability mirror. And because that's when he realized he has one dream left. And I like how he that's when he started holding himself accountable.

SPEAKER_00 23:40

The accountability mirror is a cool thing. Once I uh listened to this for the first time, I came home and I was like, I want to do this.

SPEAKER_03 23:51

I just remember when we first started dating, I would leave sticky notes in your bathroom on the mirror. That's what I remembered.

SPEAKER_00 23:57

But they weren't like you're fat.

SPEAKER_02 23:59

It was more like have a great day, boo.

SPEAKER_00 24:03

And I was like, oh, that's sweet. And that's how I became fat. I got comfortable. Now I now those stickies need to be like, you're fat. Go to the gym.

SPEAKER_02 24:12

You do go to the gym. Oh, yeah, about once a week.

SPEAKER_00 24:16

Um, let's see. I was trying to find something in chapter two. What else you got for it?

SPEAKER_03 24:25

No, he couldn't um pass the basically it's the military's SATs.

SPEAKER_00 24:35

The ASVAB.

SPEAKER_03 24:36

Yeah. And he failed it what, three times?

SPEAKER_00 24:40

Uh yeah. I think he passed it on his fourth. I have that uh four tries or something. Wait, how to do that, how to go back. Okay, so in chapter two, I d he says something about that life is gonna have bad things pile up until it swallows him hole. And I like that because that's true. Um It is.

SPEAKER_03 25:13

It's like saying that things happen in threes.

SPEAKER_00 25:16

Yeah. Typically do. Third try, I met the minimum standard for the Air Force. So on his third try, so yeah, I took him three tries. Accountability mirror. I should have pregame this so that way I knew which page it was on, I'm sorry. Um okay, never mind. Well, I do like the how he mentions mentions bad things happen. That's how life's gonna be. And then one day it's just gonna the bad thing's gonna happen to you. Because the little boy, was that the story with the little boy in it? Or sorry, the chapter with the little boy that got ran over by a bus.

SPEAKER_03 26:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:05

Yeah, which is crazy. It's a crazy story. Yeah. Um so bad things are gonna happen. Wilmouth, or what was his name? Hilmouth.

SPEAKER_03 26:18

Uh oh gosh, I lost my Wilmouth Irvin.

SPEAKER_00 26:23

Wilmouth, yeah. Wilmouth Irvin passing away, and then the little boy, who was like around the same time because he said the gurneys uh reminded him of one of the other. So uh that's just crazy how those connected in his mind so young as well. Um okay, cool. Well, then number two.

SPEAKER_03 26:44

Uh get real with yourself, no sugar coating, have accountability for yourself to improve.

SPEAKER_00 26:53

It's time to come eyeball to eyeball with yourself and get raw and real. This is not a self-love tactic. You can't fluff it. Don't massage your ego. This is about abolishing the ego and taking the first step toward becoming the real you. I tacked a post-it note on my accountability mirror, and I'll ask, do you to do the same? So, yeah, I like that. Um, I think it's good to come eyeball to eyeball with yourself and get real however you can. Um, and that's always fun, whether it be good or bad. You know, just figure out what's going on in your own life. Um, so did you come eyeball to eyeball with yourself there?

SPEAKER_03 27:43

No, because I already know what's I'm in my comfort with.

SPEAKER_00 27:48

Yeah. Yeah. So you've already kind of come eyeball to eyeball with yourself. You you already are like, oh no, I know, I know what where I'm at, what's going on, and everything.

unknown 27:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 27:59

Um, one thing that he says there is to um pick people to be around you that hold you to a higher standard, not people that make you feel good and keep you where you are. And that really stood out to me when I first listened to this years ago. Um, I was like, oh, you know, I like that because if you want to, I think they always say, don't be the smartest one in the room or something like that. It's fun being the smartest one in the room, but you shouldn't always be the smartest one in the room.

SPEAKER_03 28:28

Yeah, you get bored.

SPEAKER_00 28:29

Yeah, you get bored, and then you want to grow, you know. And if you want to grow as a person and you know, not just I guess stay stagnant, better to, you know, be not the smartest one. Um, okay, cool. Well, then number three, chapter three. What do you have uh about the story in chapter three?

SPEAKER_03 28:46

It's called the impossible task, and he was miserable, and then he lost a hundred pounds in under three months.

SPEAKER_00 28:55

Yep. He did that so that way he could go to uh BUDS or right, lose weight and redo the test to go to Buds, yeah. Navy SILS, yeah. The BUDS training. Um I think that's a lot of weight to lose. I've struggled with like my ups and downs with weight loss. Um, whenever I hit it hard, I can lose it, but it's so easy to come back on. So for him to do that, and now he's like kept it off, you know, that's an inspiration, I think, to me. And he even says it in the book is like, don't let me be your role model or inspiration, you know, find it in yourself. Um, I like how he says a lot of the time, don't put a label on me because you're not what you want to be. Oh, you're crazy, you're this, you're that. It's like, no, it's like this is who I am. Uh, I know who I am, this is where I'm at. Uh don't put a label on it because you're insecure, or whatever it is. Um, so I thought that was cool. Um, do you have anything else about that other than just losing the weight?

SPEAKER_03 30:02

I have more, but I'm trying to condense it.

SPEAKER_00 30:06

Oh no, I mean, is there anything that stood out like anything that stood out to you other than that? No.

SPEAKER_03 30:11

Do the sucky things.

SPEAKER_00 30:13

Do the sucky things, yeah. I well, I I like that. Do the sucky things. Uh, a lot of people say you should do something that sucks every day, something that you don't want to do. I think that builds character. Um you pick your own thing.

SPEAKER_03 30:28

I don't like doing laundry.

SPEAKER_00 30:30

There you go. And you do it every day. Well, not every day, but you know, every other day. So that builds character, boo.

SPEAKER_04 30:36

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 30:38

Um well, the third challenge then was uh kind of like what makes us uncomfortable, but we know is good for us. Go do it, then do it again. Do something you don't want to.

SPEAKER_03 30:53

Like laundry.

SPEAKER_00 30:54

Like laundry. Uh, the first step on our journey towards a calloused mind is stepping outside our your comfort zone on a regular basis. Dig out your journal, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We won't say that part, especially those things that you know that are good for you. Uh now go do now go do them, do it again. Um, put it on your mirror. Uh yeah. Changing life uh instantly. This is not about changing your life instantly, it's about moving the needle bit by bit. And they talk about that later too. So um did you think of things for this challenge?

SPEAKER_03 31:36

Laundry.

SPEAKER_00 31:38

Laundry.

SPEAKER_03 31:39

That was your that was your really no.

SPEAKER_00 31:42

I mean, it you didn't think of anything, or that's not what you thought.

SPEAKER_03 31:46

Out of my comfort zone when we did that four mile hike, I knew I wouldn't be able I would be in tremendous pain. Well, it's more like a walk, it wasn't really a hike, but I knew I would be in tremendous pain with my fibromyalgia for at least a week after that, and I was I could hardly walk.

SPEAKER_00 32:03

Yeah. How do you feel now?

SPEAKER_03 32:05

I feel great now, but like that's the sad reality of that.

SPEAKER_00 32:12

Yeah. How did you we'll go? I guess. Do you have the part? Did you have it ran down when he was running on broken legs?

SPEAKER_01 32:23

I don't think I wrote that down.

SPEAKER_03 32:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 32:25

So let's just touch on that. How did you do you remember that part? Yeah. How did you feel for you as somebody with fibro who feels pain every day like that, to read him saying, hey, I learned how to run on broken legs, you can do it too. Mentality. How how did you vibe with that?

SPEAKER_03 32:46

So for me, I know I have a high pain tolerance, but I've also fractured an arm. I didn't I didn't break it. I fractured an arm. And I know the pain of that. I wouldn't know. I'm not running on broken legs.

SPEAKER_04 33:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:04

No. Um, yeah, you could do anything you set your mind to, but I know that my mind is not that strong to do something like that.

SPEAKER_00 33:14

I think that him doing that was kind of the closest, or you having fibro and having that daily pain was the closest thing that I knew of somebody going through like just con pushing through something. You know, you're like you push through every day and stuff. So like I didn't know if that if when you read that, if you were like, well, not everybody can do it or something, or if you had a mindset, or if you were just like, okay, cool, whatever, it's a book.

SPEAKER_03 33:40

Um, no, for him, I'm like, yeah, like don't label him, but you're crazy.

SPEAKER_00 33:45

But like don't label me.

SPEAKER_03 33:47

Yeah, I'm not I'm not trying to label him, but it's also like I break down on average every six months. You've come home to me bowling my eyes out because of the pain.

SPEAKER_04 33:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:58

And like I can't imagine willingly running on broken legs. I can't.

SPEAKER_00 34:08

Yeah, it sounds pretty wild. But he thankfully didn't have fibro.

SPEAKER_03 34:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:13

I guess in you know, in your case mindset. It's exhausting. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:18

And I know like him doing that like aft during and after, he was probably like. Yeah. And I don't even have a word for it.

SPEAKER_00 34:30

Well, when I read it slash listen to it, I hate when people say I've read when they listen, so I keep doing it. I'm so sorry, chat. Um, I was like, dang, he's BA. Like, I I have little things that I have excuses for or make I have little excuses or things that I can come up with, but I'm like, oh, I can't go do this or this. And then to read his story about oh, this he's running on his broken legs or fractured legs and his ankles and his this and his his knee, uh, and then heart surgery. It's like, okay, well, where what what is my excuse?

SPEAKER_03 35:10

While we're talking about that, can I I don't even remember what chapter this is. Yeah, he has pictures.

SPEAKER_00 35:17

Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_03 35:18

Look at that.

SPEAKER_00 35:19

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 35:20

That's of his bleeding toes. I'm not showing the camera.

SPEAKER_00 35:23

And then you can just Google David. He says it this. Uh he's like, for the people listening, just Google David Goggins uh Badwater feet or something. Chapter 11, but then you can also look up his uh hands when he did the pull-up challenge. Yeah, hands up online.

SPEAKER_03 35:41

Hands are chapter 10.

SPEAKER_00 35:42

Chapter 10, nice, nice. You don't need to see that. Like it's yeah, just a different mindset, you know. That's why it's can't hurt me because I guess nobody can hurt him. Um, then look he does it himself. He does, yeah. If he and that's what a people say is if you start your day with doing something sucky that you don't want to do, well, the rest of your day is pretty chill, you know. Like, let a lot of people say that about working out. Like, you work out, go do a really hard workout, do the ice bath. Like, we don't do ice baths and stuff, but like I like saunas, but I've never done ice baths. But like, you know, doing that stuff is like, oh, that sucks. But then, like, by the time that you go to work, you're like, I've already crushed the day. And he mentions that in here. By the time that a lot of his co-workers were finishing coffee at 8 a.m., he'd already worked out for two and a half hours, three hours. Um, it it does make your mindset different. Um, but it's just the attitude of getting into that or the discipline, the self-discipline, like he says in the beginning, it's nobody else, it's self-discipline. Um, you kind of think for number four?

SPEAKER_03 36:53

Sorry, I keep losing my place. It's called taking souls, taking souls, seal training. There's a technique called taking souls where you work so hard that you break the spirit of those trying to make you quit. It's basically a mental edge thing.

SPEAKER_00 37:15

Yeah. Yep. Um, real quick, moving on to beer number two. This is slushy light, which is scoops ahoy 450 north brewing. Makes you look like uh stranger things. This is a sour, smoothie style sour with pistachio, cherry, milk, chocolate, dark chocolate, vanilla ice cream, French vanilla flavor. So this should be very interesting. 450 North is from Minnesota. Incorrect. Nope. Wyoming? Nope. Incorrect. Indiana. Um yeah, cool. All right, sweet. Well, wait, IN is Indiana or Indianapolis? Wait, Indiana. Indianapolis. That's the city, my bad.

SPEAKER_03 38:01

Indiana.

SPEAKER_00 38:02

Indiana. What's the other one that's IN? Isn't there another IN state? Okay, I'm stupid.

SPEAKER_03 38:08

Indiana? Wait, we just said it's Indiana.

SPEAKER_00 38:14

Okay, IN, Indiana. Okay, cool. Indiana then. Let's crack this over here.

SPEAKER_03 38:18

Watch us be completely wrong.

SPEAKER_00 38:20

Ooh, very nice color. New glasses. So one thing that I learned in cross country in high school was a technique of running up a hill and a hill. When you get up to the top, you know, you keep your your cadence, you keep your strides going up the hill. And when you get to the top, you take three very, very long strides. And that kills people's morale. People going up the hill that are having a hard time going up already, they're already like in their own heads being yeah. You wouldn't be in a in a race, you know what I mean? But like uh people that are already had in their heads messed up, whatever, they're going up the hill and they see you kill the hill, you get at the top and you take three more strides, just boop-badoop, you're just bouncing away. Now, after those three strides, you can slow down, but that's taking souls. That's like, you know, it's not just a physical thing, it's a mental thing. So if you figure out what you're trying to take out, and you figure out how to take their soul. Like, do it nicely, though. Like that. I like that too.

SPEAKER_03 39:32

Do it nicely, do it nicely.

SPEAKER_00 39:34

I think if you're if you're polite in life, you'll get further.

SPEAKER_03 39:39

Kindness matters.

SPEAKER_00 39:40

Yeah. Thieves get far sometimes, but then sometimes they don't. Um, okay, yeah. This is a beautiful color. Look at this. This is very rich. It looks like raspberry cake. I was about to say, I feel like I'm a vampire at a bar right now.

SPEAKER_02 39:55

That's right. I've never seen a fear of this color.

SPEAKER_00 39:58

Oh, it's it's very rich. Hopefully, there's not a recall on this for any reason. Oh wow. The aroma is interesting.

SPEAKER_02 40:08

I can't really smell it.

SPEAKER_03 40:17

That's not sour. That's sweet.

SPEAKER_00 40:21

Ah, see.

SPEAKER_03 40:28

I would drink this all the time.

unknown 40:34

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 40:35

Okay. Um, so taking souls, my only thing was that cross-country reference. Um he discusses a lot about how he takes souls, um, different ways for you to take souls, um, whether it be in the office, if you're a student, if it's an athletic endeavor. So it's kind of cool. I recommend everybody check this book out for uh these challenges. Uh challenge four. You gonna read it?

SPEAKER_03 41:06

You mean chapter five?

SPEAKER_00 41:10

No, challenge four. We just did the souls. Well, that that's the name of the chapter is Taking Souls, but challenge four.

SPEAKER_03 41:20

Yeah, take the souls or your competition by working harder. That's what I have written down.

unknown 41:25

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 41:26

Think about something that's happening now, figure out your opponent, find out how to beat them.

SPEAKER_03 41:32

Same thing. Taking souls.

SPEAKER_00 41:34

Taking souls, I'm sorry. Uh choose any competitive situation that you're in right now. Who is your opponent? Is it your teacher or your coach, your boss, or unruly client?

SPEAKER_03 41:49

Oh, I have so many right now.

SPEAKER_00 41:51

Unruly clients?

SPEAKER_03 41:53

No, well, no, you kinda.

SPEAKER_00 41:56

Well, boo, no matter how they're treating you, there's one way that not only earn their respect, but turn the tables. Excellence.

SPEAKER_03 42:06

Kindness and taking their souls.

SPEAKER_00 42:08

Yep. That may be acing an exam or crafting an ideal proposal or smashing a sales goal, whatever it is. Take their soul.

SPEAKER_03 42:17

I'm smashing a new service right now. So oh, there you go, boo.

unknown 42:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 42:21

Uh trying to being in the keys words. Crush it.

SPEAKER_01 42:26

Crush it. Oh, I'm so tired.

SPEAKER_00 42:30

Okay, chapter five. We're halfway through.

SPEAKER_03 42:33

It's called Armored Mind.

SPEAKER_00 42:35

He just keeps going into callusing his mind in this one, uh, gives us different stories. Anything stick out to you that you want to touch on? Hell week. Hell week. Hell week, he did a few times because of multiple issues. This one, uh, he was kicked out because of his fractured kneecap. He goes back and he runs on a broken leg. Um, this challenge was to visualize the problem. Uh, do you have anything for that?

SPEAKER_03 43:03

My thing was for the chapter five is create an arbored mind, an armored mind that can withstand any pain.

SPEAKER_00 43:10

Yeah. Do you did you think of ways that you could do that in your life?

SPEAKER_03 43:15

I already do stuff.

unknown 43:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 43:17

But yeah, I'm like, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:20

Like, uh that makes total sense. Choose any obstacle in your way and set a new goal, uh, or set a new goal and visualize overcoming or achieving it. Uh, before I engage in any challenge, challenging activity, I started by painting a picture of what success looks like and feels like. Um, so okay, well, that's that's cool. Visualize the problem. Chapter six.

SPEAKER_03 43:47

It's not all about a trophy.

SPEAKER_00 43:50

It's not all about a trophy. What did you take away from this?

SPEAKER_03 43:55

Money for charity, 100 mile race with no training, kidney failure. Your cookie jar mental bank.

SPEAKER_00 44:02

Yep. The cookie jar was the biggest thing, really. He talked about the hundred mile race and all those things that you just touched on to get to the cookie jar.

SPEAKER_03 44:11

It's basically focusing on past victories to push through current suffering.

SPEAKER_00 44:16

Yep. Take the small things that you've already overcome and use those to help you overcome bigger things. Did you think of ways or do you already do things?

SPEAKER_03 44:34

In a way, but in a way not. Like in my mind, I'm like, it's gonna get better. You know. It's always gonna be better. Today just sucks. But that's not really it. That's not really a cookie jar. That's not a cookie jar. Yeah. But I think like when I'm sick, whenever you get like stuffy notes and you can't breathe and you're trying to sleep.

SPEAKER_00 45:00

You think about breathing and how you succeeded in breathing one time, so you're like, okay, I can do it again.

SPEAKER_02 45:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:07

That's not a cookie jar either, boo.

SPEAKER_02 45:09

I'm a normal person. I'm not a crazy, crazy, like athletic.

SPEAKER_00 45:13

You don't need he says even the small things. Think about the small things that you do. Put yourself in your shoes.

SPEAKER_02 45:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 45:23

I started a service for my work, and right now I'm doing it again. And I every time I think about what I have to do to get through this and to make it work, I think this is very similar to the last service I start help start, and it's gonna be a success. Even though it kind of sucks trying to pull information that I need from different people.

SPEAKER_00 45:46

Yeah, I think that's a good one. I've created something before, but I can create this again, it will work.

SPEAKER_03 45:55

And it was successful, the first one.

SPEAKER_00 45:57

So that's good. And even if the second one does not go to plan, it's gonna be successful. There you go. Look at you. Pull out your pull out those cookies. Uh I think of things like uh, oh, I I did wake up yesterday and go to the gym. I can do it again. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking before I go to bed. I'm like, all right, cool. I did it today. Let me pull that cookie out. Like, let me eat that cookie. Like, let me have that. All right, yeah, I did it today. Let me feel good about that. Because tomorrow, if I do it again, then tomorrow night I'd be like, all right, cool. I got two cookies in the jar. Uh so I think it's any small thing. I think for you, that four-mile walk is a big thing. It's like that's a big cookie.

SPEAKER_03 46:41

Even though my hips stopped working.

SPEAKER_00 46:43

That's a big cookie that you could put in the jar. Because imagine if we go on uh the amazing race. And what you can do is like, well you'll be dragging me. I'll be dragging you, but just imagine if we're I'm like, oh hey, this is a five-kilometer walk, and you're like, I can't do that. I'm like, it's 3.1 miles, boo. Think about the think about that cookie in the cookie jar from when we walked around the lake, and you'd be like, I can do this, you know. Like you pull that out in your mind when your mind is saying you can't do it. Think about those small things. So it doesn't have to be crazy, it can be super, super tiny. So I that's one thing that I like. Um take those small victories and and build on those. Um, just don't let them go away. Uh, number six, it's not a trophy. He talks about that. Sorry, number seven. Change the way you think, sorry, is between six and seven. Sorry, I like that a lot. They talk about change the way you think.

SPEAKER_03 47:36

Chapter seven is called the most powerful weapon. And this is where 40 the 40% rule comes into play. And this is the one I didn't agree with in some situations.

SPEAKER_00 47:49

Is it 40% or is it 60 40?

SPEAKER_03 47:51

Or whatever, yeah. 60 however you put it. It's like when your mind tells you you're most likely at 40% when you your body is saying you're done. And you actually have 60% left accessible if you push through. That's basically what it was.

SPEAKER_00 48:14

So what made you disagree with that?

SPEAKER_03 48:16

Well, I think in some situations. I think in some situations like there's no way your body can push through unless you're like Superman, like he is. You know?

SPEAKER_00 48:33

He's not Superman, nobody's Superman.

SPEAKER_03 48:35

I know, but I feel like in some situations.

SPEAKER_00 48:38

See, don't label him because Well, it's like you versus me.

SPEAKER_03 48:45

Like, if you pushed, you can get it done. Like me with that four-mile hike, like I would grab onto your backpack when I'm like, oh, I'm falling behind, or you would come behind me and push, like kind of help push me. But my body was giving out. Yeah. And so in some situations, you can't push through.

SPEAKER_00 49:08

So I'm not arguing with you on this at all. I'm just going to ask questions. So him running on the fractured legs, I've never done that, so that's why I'm like, I don't have a dog in the fight. I'm just trying to ask. Him doing that and him going through his struggles. And like in the beginning, when he was 300 and whatever pounds going out and you know, like, did hmm, I don't know the best way to add it. Like, is it was it not like, okay, cool, like you did it, you did a four-mile hike that one time because you usually don't, we usually don't hike because you know you're not, you know, your body hurts. Um, so you did it, which was amazing, and it hurt, but like he went out and did it once and it hurt him, but then he went out and did it again and it hurt him. He went out and did it again and it hurt him, and he kept doing it and doing it and callused his mind and his body at the same time. Do you not agree with that?

SPEAKER_03 50:14

Like, not the 60-40 thing or anything, but like you can get your mind to believe what you can do, yes. But when you know your body, like in my situation, you know how much it can take before I can hardly get out of bed in the morning. Yeah, like sometimes if I'm doing laundry, that puts me out. Yeah, you don't see it because you wake up before me. You should see me roll off the bed. The dog just stares at me like, what the heck is wrong with mom? Um I have to get up and work. You know? It's it's hard to explain for people who do not live in pain every day.

SPEAKER_00 50:59

Yeah. Understandable.

SPEAKER_03 51:03

Um well, actually, let's say this. Imagine if you have the flu. You know the body ache flush like when you have the flu you have body aches. Imagine that every day, but ten times worse. And you tripped and fell downstairs and you might have a broken arm or whatever, a fractured arm. Oh, and don't forget you hit your head because you have a headache. Oh, and don't forget you ate something and your tummy's upset. Oh, and don't forget, like it's all these little things, and then you're gonna get dizzy. It's not always at one time, but on really bad days that's kind of what it feels like.

SPEAKER_00 51:39

Well, if you were David Goggins, you would just say you can't hurt Boku.

SPEAKER_03 51:44

Can't hurt me. Well, I I do like that called Can't Hurt Me because what else can hurt me?

SPEAKER_00 51:54

Yeah, I think that's a good motto to live by for someone like you. That came off terrible again for someone like you, for your kind. No, no, but like you know what I mean. Like you for someone that puts up with the pain that you do every day, you already are hurting. So it's like, whatever you do, you can't hurt me. And I think that's a good thing. Like, that helps callus the mind.

SPEAKER_03 52:17

I mean, you can if you give me a hug sometimes. You can't hurt me.

SPEAKER_00 52:23

Okay, uh, let's move on. Uh let's see, what's uh let's see, we did 60-40 rule challenge. Uh remove the governor from your mind, add five-10% each week. Not as like he mentioned earlier, it's not a you know, zero to a hundred in a day. No, it is uh it's getting it's getting there. So for your situation, not saying we do it, but instead of going out and doing four miles once, that's going zero to a hundred. Yeah, you hurt yourself, you saw that, you felt it, you you endured that, endured, endured, endured, endured. Um so it's more of like, okay, cool. Well, like let's go out and walk to the end of the street with the dog and then walk down to this side, and then like, you know, next week, let's add walking down this side street. And then when we're done with that, like next the week after that, let's add this one. And by the end of you know, a month, we're walking the whole neighborhood all around. So it's adding a little bit a day, yeah. A day, no, a day or per week or whatever, you know, and start off small. A lot of people think that they should just jump into something and just go oh no, you know, BDFP.

SPEAKER_03 53:30

So, like you know, join a team, you gotta go to practice before you go to a game.

SPEAKER_00 53:34

Yep, yep. Um, exactly. So I think that was one thing. Um, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 53:42

But it's funny because also, like sorry to take this over, but also like if you read forums, some people are like, My doctor told me to do this and this, exercise-wise. But what they don't understand is even walking hurts. Yeah, so it's it's funny.

SPEAKER_00 54:00

Yeah, it's really funny.

unknown 54:03

Not like that.

SPEAKER_03 54:04

Oh okay, chapter eight.

SPEAKER_00 54:06

Sorry, we you said you want to blast through these.

SPEAKER_03 54:08

Yeah, I know. Um it's called talent not required.

SPEAKER_00 54:13

Yep, that's good for me. Cause I don't have any talent.

SPEAKER_03 54:17

Yeah, you do.

SPEAKER_00 54:17

I'm just joking. Uh, what do you have for this in like the the the thickness of the chapters?

unknown 54:24

Schedule.

SPEAKER_00 54:25

Schedule?

unknown 54:26

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 54:27

So what do you think about the schedule? And then how how'd you get that out? Like, because he talks about what he did to find time to do everything he needed to do, bike to work, run, etc. So he was like, All right, cool. I can bike 15 miles in the morning. He's crazy. So he had to put a label on it. Uh bike 15 miles in the morning, or go run, work out, bike 15 miles, work all day, bike 15 miles home. So then by the time he gets home, he's already biked 30 miles, um, you know, ran X amount of miles. So that's a hardcore schedule.

SPEAKER_03 55:00

And yeah, but it's super detailed and it focused him.

SPEAKER_00 55:04

It sure is one thing I would like to say is that he does have these crazy schedules, and he does um have a lot of self-discipline, but he's also been married like four times or five times, twice to the same person.

SPEAKER_03 55:20

So how much time is he actually living versus chasing his goals?

SPEAKER_00 55:25

Exactly. And now it's totally different. You know, he's lived the past 20-something years of his life. Now, by the time he read this, this was years ago. So he's he's learned a lot from then, but yeah, like you know, hey, just put your mind to it, you can do anything. Well, you should maybe should have spent more time working on your marriage. Now, I don't know. Maybe she went out and did something. I have no idea what happened. It was so like, you know, he was like, Oh, my first wife divorced. Then we got back together, then she was pregnant, we got remarried, divorced, second wife, divorced, third wife, divorced, and now yeah, I think he's on someone else. Whatever. Great. I look up to not look up to him, I respect him as like you know, a hard self-discipline thing for the for the working out, nothing else, not his views on anything else. I don't care about any of that. It's all about mindset for discipline for this.

SPEAKER_03 56:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:22

Discipline for one area in his life, I guess. So you put a lot of work into other areas of your life. You might not be able to go run a hundred miles. I don't run a hundred miles. You know what I mean? Like you waking up and it hurts in the morning is your struggle, is staying married.

SPEAKER_03 56:41

That's so bad.

SPEAKER_00 56:42

David Goggins, I'm sorry, don't beat me up.

SPEAKER_03 56:46

Um, he probably could too.

SPEAKER_00 56:48

Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, he could sneak in our house before I even wake up and just go and just poke you. He was in Navy Steel. He would bring, he would, he would be in a kid pool. He would just like bring his own kid pools because you know, Navy Steels do water stuff. He'd like move his kid pool in here and still just kind of.

SPEAKER_01 57:09

Yeah. And then the dog will be like, I'm too tired from this.

SPEAKER_00 57:14

I can't deal with this. Um, okay, um, so him doing the bike to work, the run, all of that stuff. He was putting a lot of work and a lot of time into his schedule. Yeah. So you said schedule was a big thing for you on this, and why did that pop out?

SPEAKER_03 57:29

Well, because even in the challenge, he's like, do 15 to 30 minute blocks and you focus yourself. I tried that this week and it's not been focusing me.

SPEAKER_00 57:42

Maybe keep trying.

SPEAKER_03 57:44

Well, it's because I have so many things coming at me at work.

SPEAKER_00 57:47

Yeah. Well, that's the time that you need to find some way to delegate.

SPEAKER_03 57:56

Well, I have.

SPEAKER_00 57:58

Okay, so okay. Sounds like you already know what you need to do. There you go. Yeah. I was gonna say find a way to like, you know, find your piece or find your the things that help you break things down.

SPEAKER_03 58:09

Oh, I walk away and I hold the cat for like two minutes. Oh, and then I pet the dog for another two minutes, and I go back in.

SPEAKER_00 58:15

There you go. I'm like, I like how I'm like, oh, you need to do like delegate. You do this, you do this, you do this.

SPEAKER_02 58:22

And then when I get stressed, I go pet the animals.

SPEAKER_00 58:24

All right. Um, okay, cool. So next chapter. Wait, are we on oh wait, wait, wait, wait. That challenge was just scheduled in. So just you know, schedule things into your life. Um there are he breaks it down where there's so many hours in a day or in a week, and you work 40 hours typically. Totally different for me. So this is my thing. When yours is I have fibro, I can't do this, this, and this. Mine is I work 80 hours a week. I can't do this, this, and this. So I for me in my mind, I'm trying to break it down. We're like, okay, well, I do have time. I could take off two hours of my sleep. I really like sleep, and eight hours is like my sweet spot. I could do six. But like sometimes, like, you know, editing the pod, like yeah, then I wake up in the morning, like go to bed at 2 30 a.m. I don't want to wake up at 5 30 to go to the gym three hours later to go work 12, 14 hours to come back and then go to bed to go do it again.

SPEAKER_03 59:28

You also need to sleep enough so you're safe at work. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 59:32

You don't want to that's another good excuse. I didn't think of that. I need to be safe.

SPEAKER_03 59:35

You don't don't use it as an excuse, but you need to be safe. You we can't have you burn yourself again.

SPEAKER_00 59:42

No, and that was not my fault. I know either that was because of the brewery that I was at that is no longer around. We will not mention their names, other sky. So they're no longer around. It's okay, they burned me. Uh I'm just joking. They they made it right, they gave me two beers. Um, I'm not bitter. Uh sorry. But so that's for that's my thing, is the the work. So when it comes to my workload, what's your baby? It is my baby. So I feel completely different about it, where I'm like, I that's my baby. I'm gonna work those hours, I'm gonna do this. I could still find time, but then it it's just like, okay, well, do I want to be wound up coming home at 8:30, 9 o'clock, 10 o'clock. When I get off work, go to the gym, then come home wound up and like take a shower to go right to bed. I, you know, I don't, I really don't. I need to need to lock in on that. But like, that's my thing. That's my kryptonite? It's not kryptonite. Kryptonite makes you strong?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:48

Or is that the one that it's the weakest?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:51

Maybe, maybe work schedules my kryptonite for you know everything that I need to do in my life. It's like, oh, cool. Well, you're work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:02

Well, you're the only one making the beer and pushing out beer, and you have two locations.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:08

It's a big responsibility, but so is my health and you know, things like that. So, you know, I need to take those things seriously too. So, you know, I that's where I kind of like saw saw that chapter, like how it related to me in the scheduling it out. Maybe if I could try to schedule it better, but I don't know when I'm gonna work those 12, 14, 16 hour days. They just pop up. I'd be like, oh, cool, it's gonna be an eight-hour day today, and then it's 14.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:35

And then you can't you you don't you can't make beer when you have no tank room. So yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:43

So, but your your fibro, my work schedule. We we all have our own things that hold us back from doing what we can do, you know.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:54

But that's also at the same time not an excuse. But but it is.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:58

But it's not we we use them, and they are. I hate when things are an excuse, but they aren't an excuse because it's the truth. Yeah. But it's still like, uh, but like they're your responsibilities. Yeah. Um, okay, cool. Let's move on. What you got for the next chapter?

SPEAKER_03 1:02:20

Uncommon amongst uncommon. So even when you're a seal, elites can become comfortable. Stay uncommon even among the best.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:31

Yep. He talks about going to ranger school uh and exceeding when people tell him to chill. Uh, he goes on to not make it into the devgrew, devgrow, devgrew.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:42

Stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:43

Um, I was only listening, not reading, so I typed it wrong, probably. Um, and that was because he wasn't really fitting in. He wasn't part of the brotherhood. Yes, he was part of the soul, uh, the service and like the the team, but not the brotherhood. Um, so it's like clicky, I feel like. Yeah. For them, he said that it was like, hey, we're all good old boys, could you hang out with us when we're making these racist jokes, X, Y, Z. Um, and he said, you know, you always have to find more. Greatness doesn't stick to you. Um, so whenever you do something, you keep having to build on that. And that's a big thing, is I think a lot of people, including myself, well, you know, you do one thing. I go to the gym one time, and I'm like, cool, look at me. And then you stop. And then the next week you're like, Oh, I need to go to the gym. Oh, yeah, cool. I went to the gym. Or whatever your one thing is, you know, but like you always need to keep going.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:42

For you, I think it was opening the second location. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:46

So, like, you know, you open the first location for us. Um, you always gotta keep working, you always gotta continue. Uh, did the first one? All right, cool. What's next? If I just stayed at the first one, it would be like, all right, cool. Just keep running here forever and ever and ever. I don't want to. I wanna I want to build more stuff, I want to do new things. So, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:10

And a lot of people like the second location because it's totally different vibe.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:14

Yeah. Acre of land on waterfront property. What? With a playground for the kids and disc golf baskets on the other side because a lot of disc golfers don't like the kiddos. That's why I put my disc golf baskets on the other side. We like our nieces and nephews, but that's about it, right? No, we like Hiller.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:37

Hitler's cool.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:39

Are there other kids that we like?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:41

We like some. We like kids. We just have favorites. We're dinks, right? Is that what it is?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:49

Dual income, single dual kids.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:54

Is that it?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:56

Dual income, no kids.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:58

Yeah, dinks.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:58

Yes, dinks.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:00

So let's just say Christmas gifts are great.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:08

Oh yeah. Spoil them.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:10

Oh yeah. We we when our our first nephew was born, we were such mean we were so mean because we were like, let's get him this popping toy.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:20

It was so bad.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:22

I didn't think we thought about that too well.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:24

Yeah, we don't have to listen to it, so it doesn't matter. Um, but yeah, so greatness doesn't stick to you. Do you have uh any uh situation or anything that you can tie into that? No trying to find more in your life. Just because you did something cool one time doesn't mean that you're you know I oh, I have a quick story.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:49

I was gonna say I want to travel, but that doesn't really fall into that.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:53

Yeah, I know okay. You always gotta find more. Yeah, you gotta travel. Okay, I like that. But yeah, no, that greatness doesn't stick. So yeah. Yes, no. That yes. Okay, here we go. You have traveled, so you've been to two different countries, three including the US.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:09

Yeah, but I was born here.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:11

Right. So that's still a country. So you've been here.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:15

You've been to Ireland, you've been the Dominican Republic, right? Yeah. So you've been those two c to those cut two countries. So you always have to find more. So like you have to continue to travel, right? So like you can't just use, oh yeah, I've traveled, you know, oh yeah, we travel, we travel. We don't. You can only use that for like a year or two.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:34

And then you gotta go somewhere else. And you're like, oh yeah, like, oh yeah, now we went to Paris or like we did this.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:39

The thing I like what we've done is you can experience different cultures.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:43

Yes. Yes. And if you like that, continue to do it and keep pushing towards it instead of just using what you've done in the past as a oh, well, we went to Ireland and we've been to the Dominican Republic. So you know, five years from now, you could still be saying the same thing. Or five years from now, we could be like, Oh, yeah. Well, then last year we went to London again. Again.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:09

We were there for 24 hours.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:11

Shh, don't let fact be a good story. We were in London, uh, or Paris, you know. So I think that's a good thing. Yeah, you want to travel. So don't let your past travel experiences hold you back from your future ones. Don't because like you have traveled, so don't let those stories be like that's my end all be all. Is I I've been to Ireland and let that one story be your whole story, you know. Create new stories if that's what you want to do.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:37

I think it's more like don't let life get in the way of living your life.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:43

Yeah, don't let life get in the way of living your life. I like that. Um well then, um 10. Number 10.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:53

The empowerment of failure.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:56

Is that nine? Seven, eight, nine, ten. Oh, ten. Okay, sorry. The empowerment of failure. What do you have for this?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:05

AARs.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:06

AARs. After action reports.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:10

I like how you know what these are.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:13

Oh, yeah, I've listened to this book a few times, boo.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:16

Basically, turn your negativities and failures into fuel to do better.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:21

Yep. He doesn't make it into the ranger school this time. Um, and so he moves on to try multiple times to beat up the pull-up record. He finally gets it um after doing 67,000,000 pull-ups in nine months, which is insane. Like, that's just it yeah. For the followers and listeners, go out and do two pull-ups. Go out and do one pull-up. Let me go. I'm gonna post a video of me doing one pull-up. We'll show we'll see if we can do it. Uh, both of us doing one pull-up. So he did 67,000 in nine months. Crazy. Um, so this he he had those small things in his cookie jar that he kept pulling out while he was you know hurting his hands, and you showed us the pictures, you didn't show them, you showed me.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:08

Um I think I flashed the picture to the camera.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:12

They can Google it, just Google David Goggins pull-up hands. Um, so yes, that that is crazy. The empowerment of failure. So he failed how many times, but it's it's making it through that failure to find your strengths and keep continue to go. The challenge was after action report, write out all the good things that have happened during your failures. Um uh wrote, I meant to put right, how you handled it, your failure, and then now write how you can fix it. And I think that's a really good thing to do with life situations, whether it be with friends, family, or anything small, big. How did I handle that situation? What happened? How did I handle it? How can I change it for the next time? Uh, did it make me happy? If so, ooh, you put your mic back in front of your face. That thing right there is right.

unknown 1:10:05

Thanks.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:06

I leaned back again.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:07

Yeah, you put your mic on there.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:11

Hi.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:14

Sorry, I like seeing your squeaky. That was loud. I like seeing your mouth. Um yeah, I like it. I won't continue it. I think everybody should read this book. Okay. Um you got anything else? No.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:32

Well, then the last thing was the what if?

SPEAKER_03 1:10:35

Chapter 11.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:36

Yep. What if he talks about stretching and becoming better. That's the only thing I have for that.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:42

I have to overcome self-doubt, be peaceful but never satisfied with growth. Anyone can change.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:53

I I believe that. I think anybody can change. Um maybe to an extent. Maybe that's the best way to say that. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:04

To an extent.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:06

To an extent. Um, some some crazy people see their ego putting labels on other people, but some people might not change because they're, you know, out there slash slashing people or something, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:19

We know a few people who won't change.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:25

Oh.

unknown 1:11:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:29

I like how they they can totally see you on that camera here. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:35

Um you gotta edit that out.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:37

I'm definitely not gonna, I'm not gonna do that. That's a lot of work. So you got anything else on this?

unknown 1:11:44

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:44

What do you rate it? Um I like it.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:50

I think there's a lot of good things that I can pull out of this. Like I said, I don't take everything out of it. I don't take everything out of anything. Uh give it like a give it like a solid four.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:15

Mine's two point three.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:17

Two point three, okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:20

Charlemagne's book is still a best.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:22

What was Charlemagne's?

SPEAKER_03 1:12:23

Three. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:24

What was my Charlemagne rating?

SPEAKER_03 1:12:30

4.7.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:32

Yeah, okay. I like Charlemagne. So, like Charlemagne, I listen to weekly. I like Charlemagne, his point of views. And once again, don't take everything that he says to heart, but I'm just like, all right, cool, I take out what he says and things that pertain to me. So, alright, cool. Um, well, that was David Goggins. Can't hurt me. Maybe one day we do Can't Hurt Me. Another good book of mine.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:58

Yeah, so again. And we're jumping back into we're jump, yeah, we're gonna jump back into the Thurin of Glass series. But again, if you want another break, you look so sad.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:13

I didn't enjoy this book as much, and I was like, hey.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:16

Yeah, yeah, I just blasted through three of these things already, and then we did one of mine, and now we're going back to yours. But you know, you can't hurt me. I'm gonna take things out of this book that I just read to make me persevere and make through this.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:31

Um, just know this series is about to get intense.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:39

I bet it is.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:41

Okay. Next one.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:43

Does the dragon come out now? I can't wait for the dragon.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:47

So let me tell you this. My dragon. It's a wyvern. Wavern. Wyvern. I'm a wavern! Where is it?

SPEAKER_00 1:14:07

I think is it a wavern or wyvern? I don't a wyvern?

SPEAKER_03 1:14:12

Remember that was the word words of the week, dragon versus wyvern.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:16

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:17

So you're gonna meet my favorite character in this whole series in this book. Her name is Minon. I call her Manon because I didn't listen to the book and I read it. So I didn't know the pronunciation until it got popular. So, Arifier. It's by Sarah J. Mass, and it is about Selena Sardothian has survived deadly contests and shattering heart.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:45

I just noticed. Sorry. What were you talking about?

SPEAKER_03 1:14:49

Selena Sardothian has survived deadly contests.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:52

Is that the person from the movie Selena?

SPEAKER_03 1:14:55

No, that was a secret.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:57

Sorry, keep going.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:00

Selena Sardothian has survived deadly contests and shattering heartbreak, but at an unspeakable cost. Now she must travel to a new land to confront the dar her darkest truth. A truth about her heritage that could change her life and her future forever. Meanwhile, brutal and monstrous forces are gathered on the horizon. Favorite character intent oh not that part. Intent on enslaving her world. To defeat them, Selena must find the strength not only to fight in her inner demons, but to battle the evil that is about to be unleashed. The King's assassin takes on an even greater destiny and burns brighter than ever before in this third book of the New York Times bestselling Throne and Glass series. Yeah, so chapter Chapter four is when Nanon comes around. And she's literally the best character ever. Okay, next time we read one of your books, I'm gonna do that.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:16

Well, we haven't read this one yet. You just said Manon comes around in like the fourth chapter. Yeah. Okay, I'm excited.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:25

Hopefully you like it. If you need a break again, we will get you a different book.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:32

I'm about to make it through this whole series. This is insane. Like, do you know what I'm sacri sacrificing? I'm sacrificing like brain power or something. I don't know. Like, there's something I'm sacrificing. Maybe I'll figure out what it is.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:52

No, you're not sacrificing because this is my favorite series, and you're doing it for the person you love.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:57

I sure am, and that's definitely why I'm doing this. So there shouldn't be a reason that you're getting mad that I'm going, well, it's my favorite.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:06

It's like you're making fun of it. I'm not making fun of it.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:09

It's just I'm just not into it, and it hurts my head.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:14

Just give it a chance.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:16

You know, hiking is my favorite thing, so you should just hike with me all the time now. I should take you on eight-mile hikes. You're taking eight mile. Shout out Eminem. Tag him in our shorts.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:30

If it pops up, I will. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:33

I'm just joking. I'm I'm very excited for the hair on fire.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:36

So hair on fire. Air. Because remember, she's Ailen Ashraver Galatinius.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:44

Is she an airhead?

SPEAKER_03 1:17:46

No, she's the heir to the throne of Terracine. She's presumed dead.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:53

Alright, everybody. Read this 9,000 page book in the next week and tune in to listen to air on fire.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:03

Air of fire.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:04

Air of fire. Oh, the air's not on fire?

SPEAKER_03 1:18:07

She might be.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:08

The air of fire. So she's the air and she's fire. Is that what the kids do kids still say fire?

SPEAKER_02 1:18:14

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:14

We should wrap this up because we're just rambling.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:17

We're tired.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:18

Okay. It's bedtime. Uh, like, subscribe. Thank you, everybody. Thank you, all five of you. Love you. See ya. Bye, boo.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:26

See ya.