From Rural Colombia to NYC’s Top Recording Studio — Caro Durán’s Unstoppable Rise

From recording the sounds of the Colombian forest as a child to producing music inside New York’s legendary Flux Studios, Caro built her career by trusting her instincts, ignoring gatekeepers, and never waiting for permission.

Sitting with us at Flux in New York City, Caro shares how a childhood filled with music, curiosity, and experimentation evolved into a career in production, education, and community building. We talk about the realities of stepping into a male-dominated industry, learning to trust your own creative voice, and why waiting until you feel “ready” can quietly keep artists stuck for years. Caro also opens up about setting emotional boundaries in the studio, balancing collaboration without losing yourself, and how mindfulness helps her stay creatively grounded in a city constantly pulling artists in different directions.

We also explore:
• Building a sonic identity as a producer
• Knowing when a song is finished — and when to let it go
• Working with Ableton Live and live looping early in her career
• Teaching and mentoring the next generation through 343 Labs and On the Wave
• Creating more accessible pathways into music technology through scholarships and bilingual education

It’s a conversation full of honesty, creative energy, and practical insight — and Caro’s warmth, focus, and positive outlook are completely infectious.

for more info on Caro:

https://www.instagram.com/caroduranh/

 https://open.spotify.com/artist/2quGRhVrtjN0w3HRpcA8Zf?si=jqTxx_dDTp68xv0eAKsxfg

Caro on Tiktok

Transcript

Show Mission And What’s Ahead

SPEAKER_00 0:22

Hi, and welcome to She Creates Noise. I'm Sarah Nagurney, songwriter, producer, manager, and your host, and I'm so grateful to have you here. She Creates Noise is about highlighting the women who shape the music industry, executives, producers, songwriters, managers, artists, and advocates who've built lasting careers in a challenging and constantly evolving landscape. We want to tell these stories to amplify these women's accomplishments and to inform and educate everyone about their journey. We also hope that young people will learn that they can be part of this industry too when they come to understand the journey of these impressive women. Recently, we included mentor and artist pairings of AC Scott, who began her singing career in her 60s, alongside with her mentor, the remarkable AR executive Kate Hyman, who joins us in seasons one as well. We'll have a thoughtful mental health episode featuring top-tier industry leaders Erica Ramon, manager Fergie, and Kathy Olsen, founder of Hollywood and Mind, exploring the emotional realities behind the music business. There are so many interested guests coming up, and I'm excited for you to hear their stories about craft, leadership, longevity, and what it takes to build a meaningful career in music. If you'd like to know more about me and my own journey

Meet Caro Duran At Flux

SPEAKER_00 2:03

as a songwriter and producer, you can always check out the trailer. Thank you for coming back. Thank you for listening. And please leave a comment or review wherever you get your podcasts, as it helps the algorithm to show that you care about the topics we discuss. Thanks again for being with us here at She Creates Noise. She creates noise. Well, today we have Caro Duran and we're in her beautiful studio here at Flux. And I just want to tell you a little bit about Caro. She's a Colombian composer, multi-instrumentalist, and music producer with over 15 years of experience in the industry. She began as a young songwriter in a rural part of Colombia, starting out on piano and guitar, with a clear instinct to create and the support of a family that encouraged that path. What's striking about her journey is how that early spark evolved into a career that seamlessly blends the human and the digital. From pioneering live looping in Colombia to becoming an ablet live ambassador and collaborating with global brands like Yamaha and Roland, she's built a sound and an identity that feels entirely her own. Caro is now based in New York. That's why we're here today. She's a resident producer at Flux Studio, which is a fantastic place, and an educator at 343 Labs. Caro is not only creating music, she's helping shape how music is made. Through her platform on the Wave and her work around the world, she's opening doors, building community, and creating new pathways into music production that feel more accessible and inclusive. In

Childhood Loops And Forest Textures

SPEAKER_00 3:32

this conversation, we'll explore how she built that journey from writing songs as a teenager to becoming a global voice in music production and how she continues to move that forward. Please welcome Caro Duran. Thank you, Sarah. Now you started writing at a very young age, before the awareness of production or the music industry or anything, just instinctively creating. When you think back to that nine-year-old version of yourself at Columbia, what do you recognize in her that's still driving you now?

SPEAKER_01 4:01

Well, so when I'm starting to create music, it was actually already in my soul. Like I'm just starting to recognize that I like to listen what it was in my mind. Melodies, harmonies, rhythm that I'm starting to create. It was inspiring to growing up in a small country and in the farm, actually. I find it I find amazing sounds in the environment that I was. And for me, something that I think is still in me, it's just creating music without overthinking. At that time, I didn't know I I was doing music for as a producer or something like that. I was just creating things that I wanted to listen to in my head, like in in also in my in my room. I was like being inspiring to my the people who I have in around, my brother, my dad, my mom. But it was eight years old when I started to play the piano. It was so younger, and I didn't think about anything. I was just like creating. And remember creating loops. I remember that I started to create loops and just And how old were you when you were doing that? Eight years old. Eight years old creating loops?

SPEAKER_00 5:30

Wow, that's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 5:32

Yeah. I was using a recording cell phone to just like play the piano, recording a loop, and then on top recording the texture of the forest. Beautiful. Yeah, it is it was a great experience.

SPEAKER_00 5:49

And and I know you told me that your father was very influential and very supportive, and he would help you get a piano teacher visiting from rural whether you were in rural Colombia.

SPEAKER_01 6:00

Yeah, I was living in um where we go in Colombia, like a Bereda. It's it's it is it is like a town out of the city, uh two hours from Bucaramanga, which is the city, uh the capital of my uh state, which is uh Santander. And my teacher, he was living in like three hours ago, like three hours from my home. Like it was my dad has to take him go to other city to take him. Actually, he was living in the other like town, very far. Like, and he went every like Mondays. I remember he went, he stopped to work for all day, and then he just got the teacher to m to our home. And I get remember like one hour, one hour and a half class, and my teacher just back again. That took like around seven hours.

SPEAKER_00 7:07

So you were so driven, your family were so driven to help you that they went to all this trouble to get a teacher to you. That's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 7:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:14

And then tell us more how you then wound up going into studying at uh in Bogota, right?

SPEAKER_01 7:21

Yes. So I was like eight years old when I'm just studying, but I I I already at that time I knew it, that I was creating something. I was like, I don't know, I I I don't I don't think I I was like just like pushing myself to be in somebody in the music. I don't I don't I I was just making music. The music was already in me. I was just doing and expressing myself with the music. I was 14 years old when I moved myself to the city every day to start to learn music and aula de musica moderna, which is it was a school for music. Then I it is they have a scholar partnership with Berkeley Global. So for me, it was like that was the first time I heard that that uh school. And then I was like, all right, so maybe I can learn something here. Because like the traditional schools in my city, it was more or the universities in my city, it was more for classical music, traditional music. And my focus was like creating loops. So that was uh another completely different thing that I never saw in my country. So I never get a reference, but I knew it that I want to create a loop and I want to play in a top and play in a top like many times and create something by my own. So that was I turned myself towards start to learning how to be in this more professional, and that time at that time I'm starting to learn how to make these loops with Ableton. Move to create loops with a cell phone to learning how to do it that with.

SPEAKER_00 9:12

And this is when you went to the unit was at university. Yeah. It was part of the Berkeley program. Yeah. That's it's just so interesting that you would be, you know, able to make this transition in in such an unusual environment. You really had you obviously had a tremendous gift.

SPEAKER_01 9:27

Yeah, at that time we're still living like two hours ago from the city. So I was traveling all the time, every day, to get my classes in Bucaramanga and then back. It was took like around five hours, like four hours. Because I didn't live. I my family now it's based in the time, the town called in Lebrija, but we was living more far than Lebrija. Lebrija took like around one hour, but we was living in a like we we call that Bereda, but but it's like uh a small town in the town, actually. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:04

It's it's so interesting because I mean, just sitting with you here in New York in this fantastic studio, it's quite a journey that you've taken, and it's lovely to hear your story.

SPEAKER_01 10:13

It was around like 10 families living in that part of this of our our town. Like around 10 families, no more than that. So I never get any inspiration there for other like producers or but as I already say, I didn't think I was turning myself to be a producer. I was just creating music, creating that I the things I was hearing in there. Because the music, it was already there. It was in uh in the animals,

Learning Ableton And Leaving Home

SPEAKER_01 10:45

it was in in the texture of what you listen every day. So that that was that was my inspiration actually.

SPEAKER_00 10:53

So moving ahead, here we are. I know we're we talk a lot on on this podcast about you know experience as a woman in this business. Once you've already gone through your education and came to New York, you said four years ago. You said that you had initially not felt ready to step into production, especially as a woman in a male-dominated space. What finally pushed you to move there? And how do you think about where you are now?

SPEAKER_01 11:16

Yeah, I think we put this war ready just to separate our work into just move on. We never know we are ready. We are just doing and improving in this life. I take this war off in my life when I was younger, just because my dad every day told me that. He told me, you're never gonna be ready. Don't say that. You're just gonna need you just need to live. You just need to do it. One time you do it, you're not ready. You just need to be better and better. And he was pretty like dreaming and passionate guy at the time with my my brother and I. We both are, I think my my brother is fantastic. He has this mind to doing everything he wanted. And they inspired me to do the same. When I was younger, they they told me you can do everything you want. And I my brother is five years older than me, and I'm still like feeling wow, he's he was very, very supporting to me. Like he was like, Carol, that games when you guys are kidding you are a kid, he was all I was always I was always warning to him. Like we went we playing like soccer, we playing like a lot of games in in uh in our when we were kids, and he was always very proud of me and told me like, you got this. So you're better than me. And I think, I don't know, but some reason I think he was like just doing that for make me feel brave and told me that you can do everything you want.

SPEAKER_00 13:11

And I think it's really important also that to just mention how much family matters, uh especially fathers with daughters, who obviously you had a very supportive father, just being able as a child to hear that you can do anything you want. It it just had such an amazing impact on you, and on and it really does on every anyone, speaking to all fathers out there, yeah, you know, to really encourage your daughters to live up to their Now I realize my family matters a lot in my career.

SPEAKER_01 13:39

Not all the time I was thinking the same. Like five years ago, like I was thinking things like I have to make this by my own all my life. I when I moved to New York, this city was like a very teaching me every day. In this city was like, kind of, like things that I never told matters to me, start to matter in here for me as my family and the impact they have in my career as my mom. My mom choose like everything that I have in my life, being like so gentle, so nice with other people, so lovely, so empowered, like trying to help other people. It's my mom. So that I have that side of my mom, and I have that size of my dad and my brother in my life. And that's so important to us to recognize this. I was fighting with them like seven years ago because I was I think very different than them. They they believe in many things that I don't believe.

SPEAKER_00 14:44

That's normal.

SPEAKER_01 14:45

It's normal.

SPEAKER_00 14:45

Yeah, sure. Kids are always disagreeing with your comments.

SPEAKER_01 14:48

But it was like hard to me at that point to recognize that I don't want that's okay, and families are not perfect, and you have to learn that if you take the good things they give you, you can be very powerful.

SPEAKER_00 15:04

There's that sort of yin and yang, you're the power, the power and the gentle side. You also talked about having set emotional boundaries to handle criticism because you're stepping into such a major field that is n so male-dominated. And it's a powerful idea, but it's something that men don't usually have to think about. Like, let me protect myself because I'm gonna get all this criticism. What does that look like in a room when you're walking in as a producer, as a woman?

SPEAKER_01 15:30

It it is important to have boundaries because not every opinion matters. Like most of them are just projections. And for me, it was like important to put boundaries to the opinion who matters to me versus the opinions who doesn't really matter. And have that boundary to me change all of the all of my energy actually in that room. Because one one time I get into a room that is like a bunch of people working on things, and maybe I'm just the only woman in this in that room. The opinions who started to matter to me, it was the opinions who was giving for the best of the projects that we were working on. So if you give something, if you say something that is important for the best of your project, and it's turned everyone who is in the room inspired, in has the other energy to give the best for the project, that's the opinion who mattered to me. The other, I have just to put the bundle in that person who gave that opinion, I will start to look in more.

SPEAKER_00 16:42

Yeah, not not maybe don't work with them again or something. Yeah. I mean it it happens. I mean this.

SPEAKER_01 16:47

It happens. We have to put that bundle because our energy matters a lot. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:54

Stay positive in the room and bring in people that you've learned have been supportive of you. And I do believe

New York Lessons Plus Family Influence

SPEAKER_00 17:00

it is getting better for women producers. Some of the people I've interviewed, uh, I had someone else on the podcast who said there's a lot more women producers out there than you realize. Maybe they're not getting all the attention, but they're they're out there.

SPEAKER_01 17:12

That's true. We all are out there. You just need to pay more attention to other people.

SPEAKER_00 17:18

So statistically, though, they're not in the top 100. That's that's the other thing. But they they're out there making music.

SPEAKER_01 17:24

That's completely true. That we need just to open our eyes, you know, like it's when we are focused more and like it's it's it's a mindset, right, in the industry right now. So people think I need a producer, so they just have to they focus in men.

SPEAKER_00 17:40

Attract guy is people calling, right?

SPEAKER_01 17:42

Yeah. That is a magnetic. It's okay. Uh we don't think about as a woman, I don't think we need to fully the room with women's. We just need to open our eyes, pay more attention to women's. Like give the best the same opportunities and pay the same action.

SPEAKER_00 18:03

I mean, I I think approaching it with a positive attitude is really important, and I feel that from you.

SPEAKER_01 18:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:08

Um, it's just not like, oh, it's been, you know, it's really tough out here, but more like I'm doing something great and and people will hear it.

SPEAKER_01 18:14

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 18:15

Now you've worked across multiple cities and scenes, bravely coming to New York City. That's again quite quite a thing. How do you decide what to absorb from a culture versus what to hold on to in your own sonic identity?

SPEAKER_01 18:28

Being in a city like that, like this city where everywhere it's a lot of multicultures, representations, music. It's actually wonderful to me. When I that was the first thing I saw in the city that I God, I love this city. It's the most representation, the human the humanity actually, in one city. In one city, then you can go to the street and just try new food that you never tried before. So for me that's um wonderful inspiration. And but but uh as you already say, you need your boundaries clear, you need your objects clear. And to me that's important. Like sometimes I'm just like back to myself, to my own, just close my eyes. And I do this many meditation about what I'm really what I came to New York, what what I hear, what I'm here, right? So in and at that point I may start to like response my questions. And when I'm doing that, I'm just back to my uh main app.

SPEAKER_00 19:49

Back to your or your roots, you feel just feeling because I've this room is very meditative. I like the colors and the feeling of it. It's and my logo even matches. It's funny, my logo matches your wall.

SPEAKER_01 19:59

Yeah. Oh, that's crazy. Teal blue.

SPEAKER_00 20:02

I love teal blue because I feel there's something very meditative about you. You're very you're very calm.

SPEAKER_01 20:07

Yeah, and I'm trying like in this city where you can find a lot of noise outside, you need to have your object your objects clear, right? You need to talk with yourself. And I really love to talk with myself, and I really love my life, my soul. I love me a lot. So that's that's why I think I it is such an important thing living in New York. Because I take from New York the energy, the inspiration, but I'm key I keep very brave and strong with my objects and it's still being the same.

SPEAKER_00 20:45

Well, I mean, this is such an amazing opportunity you have here in the studio. You obviously bring a great deal, and there's something spe something very special about you. I I I know I as soon as I spoke to you, I knew that I wanted to interview you.

SPEAKER_01 20:57

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 20:58

Because I think you've really overcome, I didn't want to say obstacles, just coming from somewhere that this would have been such an unusual choice. So you've you know, through all that, you've come here. It's it's pretty impressive, I have to say. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 21:10

And talking with you actually, it's it's feeling different. That's really nice.

SPEAKER_00 21:15

I know you mentioned in another interview about bilingualism as a bridge, because you're obviously, you know, Spanish speaking.

SPEAKER_01 21:22

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 21:22

Have there been moments where language actually changed the outcome of a collaboration or a piece of music? Have you noticed?

SPEAKER_01 21:29

We were talking behind the scenes about it. In my life, I have to be in the and I have also to think about in this way. Then even if that is a language or anything new in your life, you have to be just patient, brave, and doing it every day. And be gentle with yourself. So that's something that I learned about it. Of course, sometimes people don't have the same like energy to wait in and try to understand. What do you say it, especially in my first years in New York? My first year it was a very big challenge to learning the language. Was your English pretty good at the time when you came here? My English, it was like, hey, how are you? That's it. And I was like, don't ask that question, how are you? Because I don't want to I don't understand what you say after that. But now, like I think I learn in fast. I think that's one of the I just think that's one of the things that I like about myself. Like I learn in fast and I I take the I take and I learn from every place that I'm being. Like sometimes it's very good, especially if you are in an environment like this. And this very huge, an amazing studio. And in this city when you can learn in everywhere. So that's also one of the attractive things when I moved myself to New York. It's like so, God, what is this guy here? What is the ceiling in the city? And that's what that was was very attractive to me, learning, learning, and learning. And I'm very passionate learning. So I don't think like being and working in another language for me, it's like a barrier, or I actually think it's an opportunity to learn more and more how how people think and how people express themselves. Because

Boundaries In Male Dominated Rooms

SPEAKER_01 23:30

we are we have just one language here in music.

SPEAKER_00 23:34

That's right.

SPEAKER_01 23:35

It's just music. And uh I have we have the same chords, we have the same melodies and rhythms. So that's my language, music, right? So CQ.

SPEAKER_00 23:49

Yeah, that's really, really true. Now it's also very impressive that you're an Ableton Live ambassador, you're collaborating with brands like Yamaha and Roland, and and that's that's quite that's quite something. Did you bring those opportunities when you when you came here? There was an opportunity that that brought you to New York, I believe.

SPEAKER_01 24:07

Uh I became Ableton ambassador when I was in Colombia. I actually was an amazing thing because like I did a master class, masterclass for women producer in Bogota. And after that, Ebaton started to have the focus on me, one of the brand managers in Latin America, Diego Martinez. He's living in Mexico and he was traveling to Colombia. And at that time I I asked him and I sent an email, and I'm I'm pretty good with when I want to do something. So I just started to, I don't know, life. It's it it gave me signals and I just followed the signals. And I just followed the intuition that I like.

SPEAKER_00 24:56

Seems like things just naturally fell into place because you were so clear.

SPEAKER_01 25:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:00

That your energy was just, you knew what you wanted, and people could feel it when they were around you.

SPEAKER_01 25:06

We met at Bogota. I was giving a masterclass actually in Medellin, and I'm traveling. I just took the airplane and I got to Bogota like for two hours. I went to Bogota and just get there and get immediately to look for Diego's. And we go to um D ⁇ A music in Colombia, and I went there, and I remember we have just 10 minutes to talk. I just talked to Diego about myself, and then we do more meetings after that, and I became the first ambassador in Colombia, and then the first woman being an ambassador in Latin America. And we did a lot of things, masterclasses for more women's. Like Ableton is body supported, so I really like to work in Ableton more than just the software. It's a community, it's a reason in my life doing music, actually. I give my all of my all of my life and energy and time to Ableton. And that was like after after I get that, I get the certification from Jamaha. So um I became as an Yamaha artist after working with Ableton. That was a very impressive thing to me. Now, like two months ago, um artist, official artist for the Sig track, which is a music production station from Jamaha, too.

SPEAKER_00 26:42

I think I saw that on one of your posts. It was yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:45

Yeah, Mayumi Nara that she's from Japan and she's uh leading the uh Yamaha Latin America. She spoke like five languages. But it's amazing when you can you can connect with people. I think the important thing to me, more than just being an artist or ambassador for these brands, I'm ambassador for the brands I really use. From the brands I every day I can use and I can be like inspired, and I feel support from them. But the power about this is also the people who are behind these brands. And that people, it was actually very supporting to me. All of them, like from Roland Cloud. I'm an artist from Roland Cloud recently, and like five, six months ago, I became a Roland uh certified trainer. They have this side, it it is new, but starting to be a certified training with Roland, and then I teaching, I was the first person to translate the course to Spanish. I translate the course from English to Spanish and I give it for more than 30 persons, for more than 30 people in the world. So I it was actually an important thing to me to help more people in Latin America and Spain or Spanish speaking people to get the music technology very closer. So that's one of the things that I really don't want to do every day to help people to get more advances in the music technology more fast. Because like sometimes we have to wait in a lot to get those like courses and knowledge

Keeping Your Sound In A Loud City

SPEAKER_01 28:40

in Spanish. Yes. It's it's first in English. It is good also, but we have to wait in a lot.

SPEAKER_00 28:46

So I could see that maybe changing with with all the excitement about a lot of Spanish music right now.

SPEAKER_01 28:52

Yeah. But now it it's good that I can help more people to be more close to produce music in a specific moment.

SPEAKER_00 28:59

So I wanted to talk to you a bit about women in your life, uh people you're working with or mentors that you have that are women, or you mentoring other women. Is that part of your experience?

SPEAKER_01 29:12

When I'm starting to be a producer, it was very hard to find, imagine like 15 years ago, find other women in studios. It was actually hard to see other women, and I don't I I actually I I don't remember any at that point that I it was my reference. But as I already say, I didn't know. I was building my career as a producer. I was just creating loops. I was just doing live looping. Damn, I know it. That's what what producers doing in the studio. They create loops, actually, for different structures, of course. Five, six different blocks in a song, in a song, but they all loops. Or they use splice. Even if they use splice or if they play it, they are music are loops in different directions, of course. Music has two, three parts, even classical music, all of them are thinking about parts and you repeat that part. And then I'm became a producer just because of that, because I was doing live looping, but I wasn't thinking about it, so I didn't have that reverence to see uh women and m in real in the studio.

SPEAKER_00 30:38

And do you feel now though here in New York, are you seeing more because I know we're gonna talk about you teaching, but you're seeing more women students or women that you feel that you can mentor? Sure.

SPEAKER_01 30:49

I started to find more women in the studio recently. Yeah. But I'm also starting to feel the responsibility to teach more women. And when I saw any women in the in my classroom, I feel so excited and I give most like energy at that class because I've I know we have, as a women producer, we have that responsibility to spend the numbers. And that's important thing to us, but uh at the same time, yeah, now sure I'm starting to see more women in this city, but you know it's the capital of the world, and it's a few women producers. So that that means something, you know, in the world. So yeah, so that's why I uh I accept to support you in this in this idea about she creates nice, and and because like more women have to listen to our works, and more women have to know it that you are not alone. We are more, and you just need to know that you are a producer, and you just need to believe in that. If you produce your music, don't think I just make songs a little. It

Language Barriers And Music As Common Ground

SPEAKER_01 32:10

is a tiny song, but uh it needs a producer. Maybe you are the producer and you don't know it.

SPEAKER_00 32:15

Don't be timid about your own skills.

SPEAKER_01 32:18

Just be brave and just accept the challenge to believe. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:24

I think you are very brave. So you're kind of teaching what isn't being taught uh between 343 labs and your work with major brands. You're an advocate, advocate and an educator. I know we're talking, sort of continuing to talk about what is not being taught enough, both to women or to men. What do you think? You're how do you feel sometimes that the gaps are? What are the gaps?

SPEAKER_01 32:47

Yes, I think the mindset. I think every technical structure is covered. All the schools, all the academics and universities, every they have everything covered about technical technical things. But the mindset it's not covered and it has to be 100% covered. But what I what I mean with the mindset is because very good people, good producers still have amazing songs in just day computers. They didn't finish the songs because they don't believe in the choices in that song. And that's what I think we need to work more on it. In our mentality, in our emotions, in belief in whatever any choice and became to create that song. Because the only thing that is separate you from a big artist is they don't the songs. Maybe your song is better than other songs that are out there, but you're still thinking you don't finish, you're not yet, you're ready for that. But we're never ready. And something that I learned in this studio that I have to thank to Daniel and Fab, it's I'm starting to do my own mixing and masterings. And Daniel told me one time, Caro, you're never gonna finish a mix. You just decide to let it go. And I think that's a very powerful thing. We never finish a song, never the version 20 is the is the best.

SPEAKER_00 34:38

It's just mix number whatever.

SPEAKER_01 34:40

Yeah. It's just let it go and keep moving. And I think that's a wonderful thing that we need to incorporate more in academies and university to people finish the songs and keep moving and believe in themselves and the music and the show.

SPEAKER_00 35:00

Shouting out Fab DuPont who introduced us, and he's he is a great person to have that kind of advice from, right? Just like believe that it's it is great. You you've got to put it out there and get it out there. Yeah. Because there's always remixes. You could do a remix, you know, you gotta just say this is the one.

SPEAKER_01 35:16

Yeah, no, it is always release. It's always many ways to keep working in the same song, but we just learning something new for every song that we produce. So if you keep mob moving, if you just work in another piece, you will realize maybe that was other things that we want to put in another song, and not in the same. So we don't have to

Brand Partnerships And Teaching At Scale

SPEAKER_01 35:45

put everything in one song.

SPEAKER_00 35:46

I think you're also saying about so much mental health, but sort of self-love, like believing that that your work needs to be heard. Yeah. And not keeping it in your hard drive and just getting it out there in the world in in one way or another, you know. Yes. Whether whether it be on a Spotify or Amazon or, you know, playing it live, you know, which I think is going to become more and more important.

SPEAKER_01 36:08

Yeah, that's that's the only thing that it is separate you to be as a singer, producer, or just put it out there. Stop to save those projects. Albums, entire like 50 songs, just save it. You just need to put it out there. People deserve to listen to those songs.

SPEAKER_00 36:27

Uh now you've also created On the Wave, which is a community that fosters community. Uh, was there a specific moment where you realize that this doesn't exist, I have to make it happen?

SPEAKER_01 36:37

I want to work more in the mindset. The technical stuff is already covered. It is out there, amazing, amazing programs, and I can teach you to be everything you want. But I realized then the m energy, then your mind, it's so powerful when you put start also in your career, when you are focused also to build your mind and be ready in your mind. So that's why I create on the wave. Is that more about mindset, about encouraging people? It's both. It's about mindset, but it's also about techniques, of course. I support people to learn how to create songs from scratch in Ableton. But I also, in the main thing about On the Wave, is support people to. I go out there to create partnerships and get scholarships for my students. Some of them they don't have to pay nothing, some of they then pay a little bit for it. But Ableton, Roland, they are support their programs.

SPEAKER_00 37:52

We'll put that in the notes so people know how to apply for that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:55

And that's that's an amazing thing because like the music industry is so expensive. Everything you have to buy, a cable, everything, it is so expensive. And learning it is too. But I'm trying to, at the same time, in this on a web community, we have like supporting your mindset, we have supported also with big brands, because my students are sponsored officially for Ableton students, so they get discounts in the programs in the software, so they have good deal with that, right? And the on the other hand, I have a couple of my programs are in Spanish, because people in New York, it is a big community in New York, and they speak Spanish and they wanted to be comfortable in Spanish. So OnlyWave, it's also bilinguals.

SPEAKER_00 38:52

So we talked a bit about women in the business. What do you see, what do you feel needs to change to make it easier for women to be in a position like you're in?

SPEAKER_01 39:02

We talk about it a little bit when we started, but I wanna keep talking about because like we need to open our eyes and to see maybe your sister is a producer and she don't know. Maybe someone in your family or your friends are a music producer, and they just need to believe a little bit in that it in themselves. And I think that's one of the things then we need to keep working on. Education, the more women we see, the more it's the more women we see, yeah, expand the numbers, like hiding a women, giving to them opportunities to work with you, and maybe you will learn also from them, and and maybe you will like get a better job sometimes. So we are passionate, we are there, we're all there. They're they're out there. So what's coming up for you? I just start to I learn it from one of the most important persons in my life. Just stop to think in the future and believe what is happening right now.

SPEAKER_00 40:18

Yeah, but I mean, like you know, you have a record coming out.

SPEAKER_01 40:20

I'm working right now in an album and it's coming. And June 20, we're gonna release that album in a boat party. And I say that what is coming to me, like because I don't know what is coming tomorrow. So I know maybe it's coming an album.

SPEAKER_00 40:40

Right.

SPEAKER_01 40:40

And he and the album is ready. I don't know what's going on tomorrow, I don't know what what will happen in this uh with this work specifically right now. But to me, every day it's working in music. I'm music in my dreams, I'm music in the mornings, every time I'm recording to what is coming to Carol,

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SPEAKER_01 41:00

so every day working in music, every day working with people who want to believe in themselves, people who want to record in this beautiful room with me and create music. So and also I have that responsibility to inspire more women. So I I feel that that is something that is common to myself. If I'm still in this work at my age, I know I'm I'm pretty younger in the industry. I just want to make music and still have this same energy when I'm starting to create music at my age years old. Not overthinking anything. Just keep doing everything because I love to do it.

SPEAKER_00 41:49

Well, thank you so much, Coro. It's so nice to have you. Look forward to hearing your music and staying in touch. Thank you. Thank you, you all, for listening. I'd like to thank today's sponsor, Herd City, the premier audio post-production company servicing the advertising, motion picture, and television industries right here in NYC. I'd also like to thank Antello, aka X O An, for singing the She Creates Noise theme that I wrote. Thanks for listening to She Creates Noise. If you enjoy this episode, be sure to subscribe, rate, and share. I want to thank the team here: Blair Rhinely, Yelena Stevanovich, Emily Wilson, and the Master of Engineering and Grammy winning Cooper Anderson. We'll see you next time.

SPEAKER_03 42:32

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SPEAKER_00 43:04

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