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A Wife's Call to Respect
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On this episode of Girls Corner, Brooke and Lauren share a life-giving conversation about respect in marriage and the beauty of living out the call found in Ephesians 5:33. They explore what it looks like to honor your husband in a way that reflects God’s design and strengthens your relationship.
Through personal insight and biblical truth, they highlight that respect is a voluntary, intentional heart posture that honors your husband’s God-given role, rather than something based only on his performance. Choosing respect in this way creates a foundation of encouragement, unity, and connection within marriage.
Brooke and Lauren also share how recognizing and affirming what your husband is doing well can have a powerful impact. When a husband feels honored and supported, it often influences how he leads, loves, and shows up in the relationship. Respect becomes a way to build him up and create an environment where both spouses can thrive.
The conversation also references the book Love & Respect by Emerson Eggerichs, which explores the biblical connection between love and respect within marriage and how those needs shape communication and unity between spouses.
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All right, well, welcome back to the Authentic Marriage Podcast. I'm Brooke. This is Lauren. Today you get just us wives, just us ladies, and we are talking about Ephesians 5.33, which the guys have already talked about. But this verse says, let each one of you love his wife as himself. That makes sense to me. And then it says, and let the wife see that she respects her husband. That's a hard word. It is a hard word. And I think we're still trying to wrestle through this, so we're gonna wrestle through it together a little bit.
SPEAKER_00I didn't really want to do this podcast.
SPEAKER_02So I think what's really interesting about this is this is a verse that says, wives are to respect their husbands. So that is a command from the Lord. We are to do it. Now the cool thing is when God tells us to do something, he equips us to do it. He doesn't ask us to do or tell us to do something we cannot do. And I think that it's also interesting that this is God's plan A for marriage. Um Jimmy Evans, who does a lot of marriage, um, he's actually involved with exo marriage, um, he said that it's God's plan A for marriage, and God didn't come up with a plan B because God doesn't need a plan B. Right. So this is God's plan. So I think it's really important. We have this conversation. And you and I are very involved in a lot of marriage ministry things. And if we're struggling with this, we're probably not the only ones to struggle with this.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I think this is a big thing that women struggle with in general. I mean, I I'll be in groups of women and you hear them just talking about their husbands in very negative ways, right? And that's disrespect, right? That's not respecting him. That's not, you know, blessing him by talking down about him. And and so, no, I think this is a really good topic. It's just one that I think women don't fully understand, you know, and so we're gonna give some practical ways of how we can respect our husbands, right? Yeah. And and good examples of how we have and have not. Have not. Yes.
SPEAKER_02I know I was talking to Chris about this um last night as we were preparing for this, and I was saying, okay, so when you when you really feel respected, it just means you really feel loved, right? But it's like, well, no, I feel respected. It's like I love to be respected, but I really love to be loved. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah. So um respect in marriage is honoring him, valuing him. Um, I love this one. It's believing in who he is now, but I think it's also believing in who he can be, who God has created him to be, and then actually encouraging and helping him to get there. And we'll we'll talk a little bit more about that down the road. So um, studies have been done, and there was one done by um Shanti Feldman, and she wrote a book called For Women Only, and it said that 74% of men would rather feel respected than loved. Rather feel respected than loved.
SPEAKER_00I find that hard to relate to. Well, yes, we can't really relate to that because that's what we love. Right. Right. I do find it interesting that God, you know, this command is the Lord instructing us to give our spouses something that doesn't come natural to us. Isn't that interesting? It's not a natural thing. Yeah. And I do, I will have some, you know, conversation with God about that. Yes. When I'm with him in heaven. But no, I I just think, you know, it's it's definitely interesting. And I think it's because, you know, we he wants us to rely on him. You know, we can do all things through Christ who strengthens us. And I think he wants us to um really rely on him for things that are more difficult for us, you know. Um, and he loves that, and he loves to be our helper. And I know we're gonna talk about that in another uh podcast as well, but um, that's who God is, and so he'll he'll help you through understanding what respect is. If you just ask him, Lord, how can I respect my husband? What does that look like in my marriage? He'll give you that answer. He's not holding anything back, he wants that for you because he knows how it will produce such a great harvest in your marriage when you respect your husband. Those are seeds of respect, you know, are important that they are.
SPEAKER_02And I think it's really interesting. Um, we all know that song, R-E-S-P-C-T, by Aretha Franklin, right? She made it famous during the women's movement back in the 1960s. But I actually read that Otis Redding wrote that song and recorded it two years prior as a cry to his wife, saying, Woman, what I need from you is a little bit of respect when I get home. Wow. And I thought, I mean, Aretha did a great job with the song, but our culture again took that word and we turned it into this woman's anthem, but it's really the man's desire. And here's a man crying out to his wife, like, please give me some respect. That's all that I need and want from you. Um I'm afraid we often fall short. But I think sometimes we fall short, well, partly because we might not fully understand this, right? But I also think in marriage we can get to this place of, well, you're not doing that for me, so I'm not doing that for you.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, tit for tat type thing. And that's just not helping. It's a good place to be.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, there's win-win or there's lose-lose in marriage. Yeah. Um, so I think it's really important for us to to figure out what is this respect thing, what does that look like? And how do we how do we honor our husbands and give them, give them that?
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um, and I think it's good to to see too, you know, when we, you know, give respect to our husbands, he when he feels that. He feels that. And and then he's able to um you'll watch that he'll take more initiative or he'll be more emotionally engaged and invest in the relationship. And and you know, we're not doing it for what we're getting out of it, but it does fill their tank, it fills their tank so that they can give out of that the things that they're not used to giving, right? Yeah. Um, so I do think that it's, you know, when we pour into each other the way that God says, it is beautiful, it works out beautifully, and God knows that. He knows that when you respect your husband, that he'll have what he needs to show love. And and the same is true with the woman, you know. Um, and if people would just, you know, follow what the word says, because the word is truth, they would have a beautiful marriage. They really would. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And and I think it's important that we say, okay, what can I do about this? Right. So often we're like, well, if he would only change, then I would do what I'm supposed to do. And that's not healthy. And I think we've, I mean, I have found at least that when when I try to change and do what God's called me to do and pray for Chris as well, to be who God's created him to be in the marriage, that it it just works out better. You know, God honors that request, but I can only change me. I can't change him.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So um, doing taking that initiative, even if you're doing it kind of dragging your feet, like I'm so annoyed, I'm so frustrated, I don't feel loved at all. But I know God's called me to respect him. And let's let's be the adult in the room or whatever. And and um just take that upon ourselves to start that because it really changes that dynamic in the marriage. Um because we need love, and when we get love, I think we can respond with respect. And the husbands need respect, and when they get that, then they respond with love, and it does become this beautiful cycle.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Um there's uh a book, Love and Respect. Yep. That one's that one's a good book because it's it's the crazy cycle, right? And I think we're gonna talk about that here in a minute, but um, that is a very good book for for for understanding, I think, some of the aspects of what love looks like and respect looks like. And um we I read that a long time ago. It'd probably be good to reread that again, you know, every so often.
SPEAKER_02Actually, I refer to end up referring to that book quite often, and it's by Emerson Egerics. I don't know if we do show notes or not, but if we do, we could put that in show notes. Yeah. Um, yeah, it's a really good book and helps to us to start to understand this a bit more.
SPEAKER_00Um, so I think go ahead. Oh, I was just gonna say, so, you know, let's dive into kind of what this looks like in, you know, in life, you know, uh realistically. Um, and you know, like always, we love to have biblical examples because we base all that we're saying on the Bible, on the word of God, right? Right. Um, and that's how we live our lives. And so, you know, Proverbs 21:19 says it's better to live in a desert with the than with a quarrelsome and nagging wife. It's better to live in a desert with no food, no water, hot, hot, than with a nagging wife in a nice, beautiful home. Yep. I mean, that's huge. I mean, so, you know, and I think, you know, for women, disrespect comes out of the nagging, the the quarreling, the, you know, uh, you know, and I and I have done this before where Sean's gone to the store and I'll, you know, nag him when he gets back because he didn't get the right things or he didn't do it correctly. And I've had to, you know, realize, oh, that's not respecting him. You know, I need to respect him and appreciate what he did. And yeah, he may not always get it right, but you know what? Respect what he did do. Right. You know. Um, and then Proverbs 21, 9 says it's better to live on a corner of the roof than share a house with a quarrelsome wife. This is crazy. It just c you know, you read a lot of Proverbs about this quarrelsome nagging wife. It's an issue.
SPEAKER_02And I love the message translates that one as better to live in a tumbled-down shack than share a man's mansion with a nagging spouse. That's crazy.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I mean, we have to, if you really think about that, and why would the Lord put so many of these in his word? Because he knows that we as women, we struggle with this. Yeah. We struggle and we like to, you know, control situations, we like to have our say in everything. And sometimes we just need to shut our mouths, you know, and and we need to show respect and and and not allow what we want to say to come out, you know, because a lot of it is how what we speak and how we speak and in our facial expressions. Sean always says, I have I used to roll my eyes a lot. I have I am way better now.
SPEAKER_02You are true. I mean, now I just do it for fun. But I think it's a reflection of what's in our heart, yeah. So it's really, I think we can practice what comes out of our mouths and say pause, but then it's also getting our heart in the right place. It's kind of a two-part yeah thing.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00What what comes out of the the heart is what you know, what is in our heart. Comes out of the mouth. Yeah. There's a proverb about that too. There is, and I think we'll probably mention it in another podcast. Yeah. They all kind of work together.
SPEAKER_02They do. They do. Um, so I think one thing I I came across was it can be our approach to this can be to kind of have almost a cheerleader mindset. And that can that can sound weird. I don't mean for that to sound weird, but in terms of like truly be our husband's biggest cheerleader. Let's build them up. You know, let's be positive around them. Not phony, but like genuinely positive. Um, celebrate them, speak life into them, you know. Um so no cheerleader outfit, pom-poms. Oh, I'm sure they would love that. Actually, and that might be a way to show respect. They hadn't planned on going down that route in this particular podcast. But I think actually, since you brought that up, I think sex is a huge part of showing respect. And I think um willingly and uh really engaging and not just being okay, let's go through the motions and get this done. But I think I know at least for Chris, full love, I'm telling you this, but I know that that's truly like one of the biggest ways for him to feel respected is to feel desired and desired. Yeah, and and I didn't know the initiative.
SPEAKER_00Yes, that's a huge thing.
SPEAKER_02It is, and I didn't know this early in our marriage. Nobody taught me this stuff, nobody told me, and it's been a struggle for us because I, you know, and he tried to, but he gave up because I I don't know.
SPEAKER_00They give up that's a whole other topic, probably because they don't feel respected, which is a big part of their manly that's how they're wired, right? And so it's like you just shot them down so many times that they don't want to try anymore. Yeah. You know, um, and that is a huge, I mean, that that's just a topic you could go into for hours and hours because I think you know, women, women tend to shoot their husbands down a lot in the bedroom.
SPEAKER_02And I think sometimes we're not even fully realizing, like, and I still don't fully understand like this need for that, because I don't have the same drive that he has or the same need. But it's important for us to realize that that's a need that only we can meet for our husbands. And if we don't for long enough, and if they are not feeling respected by us, they're going to look for respect in other places. And maybe it's they want to get respect from the workplace and they want that anyway. But I think in the bedroom, too, like if we're not desiring them there, right, that can not give them permission, but can let them be drawn. If somebody else shows them, shows interest in them in that way, then the enemy can attack and and try to pull them away from the marriage.
SPEAKER_00Well, I wrote this too when we were looking at all this, that you know, with respect, like if you're not showing respect at home, they're going to go into the workplace and they're gonna, they, they're they're needing that, they're craving that respect. So when they don't feel it at home, a lot of times you'll see men working a lot, you know, like they don't want to come home because they feel like I don't want to walk into a nagging situation. I don't want to be told what I didn't do right today. So they don't want to come home. Yeah, you know, and they're getting that respect from their job, or like you said, like um, we've talked about little foxes, right? They're getting maybe respect from a a nice lady at their job place. So they are they're finding respect somewhere else because they do need it and they look for it, you know, and so you don't, and and I, you know, it's so interesting if you uh, and and I would just encourage any any wife listening, when you're in a space in public with some of your friends or with people that you know, say something incredible about your husband. Lift him up in public and watch his demeanor, watch his face, watch what that does to him. It is incredible to watch. It really is so powerful, and and it really is important that we understand this aspect of respect and what all it entails for the health of our marriage and for to bless our husbands, you know. So let's just give some. I would love to maybe give some practical ways to do this so that people can have some good takeaways. Yes. Um, you know, I know we've put down communication and tone, and we've kind of talked about that. Yeah. Um but some questions to ask are do I speak with kindness even when I'm frustrated? Uh do I interpret or dismiss him? Uh would I want to be spoken to the way I speak to him? Do I correct him in front of others? One of the ways I know for me that I have had to really work on is um not not like dismissing things, I think. Like, we'll um, and in a way that's kind of like we'll, you know, he'll be talking to me while I'm doing something and I'm not fully engaging in the conversation. I'll be like, yeah, yeah. And he's like, you're not even listening to me, you know, and I'm making something more important than him. And that is a way of dismissing what he's saying. It's a way of dismissing him. Like, I don't, this is more important than you, right? And I've had to be very because we are a fast-driven culture and we have that phone on us all the time. So it's very easy to just constantly be on that instead of giving the attention to your spouse or even the people around you, right? And there are times when it might help if they would say, Hey, can I have your attention for a minute?
SPEAKER_02That would help. That would be nice. But I think it's important that we recognize that we do that because I I can do that as well and say, Hey, could you actually just give me one minute or give me a few seconds to finish this and then I can give you my full attention. Right.
SPEAKER_00Or even doing that, you know. Yeah. I've learned to do that because if I am in the middle of an email, and he's learned to love me well by saying, Of course, just you know what, when you're done with that email, let's talk, you know. Um, but again, that comes down to having a good way of communicating with one another. It all comes back to communicating well with one another. Right, right, and not be easily offended and all of those things. Uh, it can work, but you have to, it takes work.
SPEAKER_02It does, and be intentional and recognize. Um, I think another area to think about is just our attitude and our mindset. So, do I assume the best? And when we don't, it's negative interpretation is the communication style. But I can find myself not assuming the best. And that's not fair because he loves me and loves me well. So, um, but do I focus on his strengths or on his flaws? Do I show contempt? We're talking earlier about the eye rolling kind of thing, or do I speak well of him? I love this when he's not around. Yeah. Um, I was reading a book the other day, and the man said that his wife had this group, these two other ladies that she would go out to eat with or hang out with. And he said it got to the point he could always tell when she had been with them, even if he didn't know what she had done that day, because of how she treated him when she got home. Because those wives were in very unhappy marriages, badmouthed their husbands the entire time. And she would, this wife would come home and then do treat him poorly. And eventually she he pointed it out and she eventually saw it and ended up just breaking off those relationships. But it's so important how we talk about them, kind of behind their backs, so to speak.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_02It matters because again, that's our heart. It's our heart about them.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And it's very easy to get ourselves into conversations of, oh, well, my husband this and da-da-da-da-da. And yeah, especially if you're around it. Yeah. So be countercultural.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. You know, build him up. Yeah. And yeah. Be the one that's different. And and the ladies will watch, you know, and be like, oh, she doesn't talk about bad about her husband, you know. And um, yeah, and you could change the dynamic of that whole group by standing up and and actually speaking well of your husband.
SPEAKER_02So yeah, there's a woman actually in my um I have a book coup and book club in our neighborhood, and she always speaks well of her husband. I mean, there's not ever even just a little funny thing. Yeah, always. And I and I've even picked up on that. That's awesome.
SPEAKER_00So it is, it's really nice. It's refreshing. Yeah, that's wonderful.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um, I think the other one is support and partnership. Uh, do I show appreciation or do I take him for granted? Do I support his goals? You know, um, sometimes our goals are not always the same. Sean and I have very similar goals, so this is not one that I'm very familiar with, but I know other marriages where there are different goals, you know, like they, you know, God's calling one to one thing and then the other. And they, you know, balancing that and and supporting each other in that and not getting um upset because that person has to go do that or you know, nagging them about that. Um so and of course, you know, again, communication it revolves around communicating, like you don't, you know, you don't you're not supporting your husband being out every night and every day, you know, like there is like communication about that and being a family unit, but there is a part of supporting him and not, you know, downplaying what he's doing either.
SPEAKER_02Well, I think the important part of that is there needs you and he need to have the overall common goal. Yes, and then you might achieve that goal in different ways using different strengths. It might be that he needs to spend a lot of time at work in this for this season to rise up or whatever that might be. But the overall goal needs to be a mutual goal, yes, agreed, right? And then you support each other and how do you get to that goal and then um yeah, and keep evaluating that too. Yeah, because I think you could easily fall into ruts then of constantly working and then for you missing the goal because it's changed.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So I was, you know, we're in Bible college right now, and I was listening to Barry Bennett, and he was saying that he was, you know, in missions, and but and he was so gung-ho on missions, but it it made him like basically, you know, his family was second to that. And it was affecting his whole family. And then and so he realized, like, yes, God's called me to missions, but my but my main mission field is my family. And once he turned when God talked to him about that, he was I think it was like he said to him something like, How can I let you take care of my bride if you can't take care if you can't take care of the one I gave you?
SPEAKER_03Wow.
SPEAKER_00Um, and it immediately changed him in that moment because he was like, Man, I you're right. Like you're calling I need to pour into my bride, the bride that you gave me, because the marriage unit is so important to God. It is so important to God. It is, it is him showing us his love for us through the through the marriage unit. And so he turned and he decided, no, I'm gonna love my family and and and make them the priority. And all the other opportunities in missions and everything opened up. Like so many blessings came from him sewing into his family that then he was able to sew into the other things that God called him to. Um, but it was it was so cool to hear his story on that because I think we can even think that we're doing something really good and neglecting at the same time. I've seen that happen in a lot, even with missions and you know, um being involved, you know, in different uh in church functions and everything that you almost neglect because you're so I have to focus on this, I have to focus on this.
SPEAKER_02And I well, somebody told me once that there are a lot of good things we can do, but sometimes the good keeps us from the best. So, what is the best that we can be doing for the Lord and with our lives? And that really resonated with me because I like to do lots of different things, but I end up doing so many things that I'm not giving my best or doing what is best.
SPEAKER_03Right. So be on that's good at that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02All right, a few more c topics here, maybe to ask ourselves questions about. Um, during conflicts and disagreements, do I try to understand or do I try to win them? Uh do I use sarcasm or bring up past mistakes? And am I quick to apologize? And I think gosh, sarcasm can be a really um just nasty thing. I think it can be easy to fall into that. Oh yeah, but um, and then also just am I quick to apologize or do I bring up those past mistakes? You know, if you've forgiven, move on and don't keep bringing that up. Right.
SPEAKER_00Um so and uh I the next would be decision making and trust. Uh, do I value his input? Do I trust his judgment? Do I try to control outcomes? I definitely have tried to control outcomes. Uh-huh. Definitely like um if if plans change, like if he had to make a plan change, oh, that was never a good thing. Everything just went to poo. I mean, like it was, it was it was a bad thing for uh something to change. And now I've come to realize, no, like if if we need to, you know, if he needs to change something or we need to do something a little bit different, I'm very quick now to take his his, I trust his decision making. I trust why we're not gonna do that, uh, or we are gonna do something different. Um and it's it's night and day different for a relationship. It was it was not good because he didn't feel respected. He was like, I can't make any decisions, you're gonna make all of them, you know. I can relate to that all too well.
SPEAKER_02I'm still working on that one, actually.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I'm not like 100%, but I'm in the 90s.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Actually, that even happened. This is actually pretty embarrassing. But we were at church, it was Easter Sunday. We were at church, and there was communion, it was communion, but we, you know, do communion with each other. And he wanted to feed me the bread. And that's not what we do, that's not how we do it. And I'm like, what are you doing? Why are you trying to jump? And it's really like so sweet, you know, to say that. You know, this is my body given for you. Like, no, it's just like I was not happy. And I had to apologize afterward and be like, I'm so sorry, but I just that threw me. Yeah, because it's not down my throat. Especially if you're used to doing things a certain way. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So I'm embarrassed by that one. But letting him lead. That's a great example. Shows respect. Yeah. I'm learning, trying to learn just hard. So I think we need to wrap this up. Yes. Actually, was there anything else on the questions? Any other no?
SPEAKER_00I think I think um the last one might be emotional safety. Does he feel safe being vulnerable? Do I listen without fixing or dismissing? And do I honor his feelings? I think those are important too. So um, I would just, you know, I think challenge our our the women listening to um start really uh thinking about what you say about your husband, how you speak to him, what comes out of your mouth when he comes home from work, you know, start start really being aware of that. Ask the Lord to reveal areas that um you dis you you show disrespect. He'll be very quick to show you that that as long, you know. He just he wants us to ask him. And he is such a good dad. He's like, sure, I'm gonna show you. And it's always in love because he wants the best for us. He wants a good marriage for us.
SPEAKER_02And I think it's important to ask our husbands too. Yeah. Because I think sometimes I assume I know, oh, well, this is what respect will look like. This is and that's good. And that's not. And what just one quick example is when um I hit a point a few years ago where Chris could walk in the door, I'd be doing whatever, and I just said, you know what? Every time he walks in the door from work, I'm gonna stop what I'm doing and I'm gonna go to him and give him a kiss and say, Welcome home.
SPEAKER_03That's awesome.
SPEAKER_02And I just think just that in and of itself, it's little thing, it really wasn't that hard to do, but it's just like, I'm glad you're home, you know, and shows respect. So just an idea, something simple, someplace to start.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I don't think a lot of people do that when their husbands come home.
SPEAKER_02Now that he's retired, I need to remember to start. Yeah, yeah. That's great.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I mean, just that takeaway alone can do so much for your marriage. Yeah. So that's great.
SPEAKER_02All right. Well, I'm not sure if we figured this out, but hopefully we've uh gotten together. We're working on it and we're we're thinking on it, and um, just to realize how important respect is for men and press into what what that looks like and can look like in our marriages.
SPEAKER_03So all right. Okay, you want to pray? Yeah, you want to pray us?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, okay. Uh Lord, we just love you. We love you so much. You are such a good father to us, and we just thank you for your word and the truth of your word, and how Lord, you've shown us so much throughout your word, how important respect is, how we tend as women to be naggy and quarally. And so, Lord, I just pray for every woman who is listening, Lord, that right now, Lord, you speak to them, that you show them areas um in their heart, Lord, that they have uh maybe contempt or that they've uh allowed the spirit of nagging to come out in their marriage, Lord. Would you just show them um areas that they can be um all that you are that you have for them to be, Lord? You you want them to respect their husbands, you want them to know the areas that, Lord, you want to help them in. And so, Lord, would you just reveal that to them right now? And Lord, would you give them strength? Would you give would you be their helper in in um changing the way that they speak to their husband, the way that they look at their husband, just all of these things that we're talking about. It might seem like a lot, but Lord, you you can help us. You are our helper. And Lord, I just pray that you would guide them um into being um the wife that you are calling them to be, and that they get to see the fruit of that, Lord. And we just thank you that you love us so much and that you um are there for us in all things. And we just love you in Jesus' name. Amen.
SPEAKER_03Amen.
SPEAKER_02All right, all right. Well, that's a wrap. Thank you for joining the ladies today for the Authentic Marriage Podcast. I'm Brooke. I'm more good. We'll uh see you next time.