One Slice at a Time

Myths about Modern Air Travel Part 2 - Airport Survival Guide

Ryan Joy and Stephanie Pakosta Season 2 Episode 51

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In this episode of One Slice at a Time, we're moving beyond booking airfare and focusing on what happens next: surviving the airport.

From family travel and seat selection to TSA rules, airport apps, Real ID requirements, and lost luggage prevention, we're sharing the practical strategies we use with our own clients every day.

You'll learn why airport stress often starts before you ever leave home, how to pack a smarter carry-on, when TSA PreCheck and Global Entry make sense, and why AirTags have become one of our favorite travel tools.

We also discuss traveling with children, grandparents, medications, mobility concerns, and special airport services that many travelers don't realize are available.

Whether you're heading to Walt Disney World, sailing on Disney Cruise Line, boarding a European river cruise, or taking your first international vacation, these airport survival tips can help you start your trip with less stress and more confidence.

Plus, Ryan delivers one of the harshest Crusty Reviews in podcast history.

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Ryan: [00:00:00] There are two kinds of airport people, the ones calmly drinking coffee at the gate, and the ones sprinting through the terminal holding a backpack, a boarding pass, and one shoe 

Stephanie: And somehow, Ryan, been both of those people. 

Ryan: On the same day? 

Stephanie: Yeah, I think so. 

Ryan: Today we're talking about how to become the calm, zen 

Stephanie: Namaste. 

Ryan: Yeah. 

Stephanie: Or at least the person who fakes it. No, I'm just joking. Or at least the person who knows what to do before the panic sets in 

Ryan: We're covering family travel, seat strategy, airport apps, real ID, baggage, lounges, TSA, medications, nursing moms, and why the boarding time on your pass is not a suggestion 

Stephanie: This is Airport Survival for Real Travelers. Not perfect travelers, real people with kids, bags, like you said, [00:01:00] medicine, snacks, anxiety, and a phone battery that's somehow already at 40%. 

Ryan: ​ 

Stephanie: to One Slice at a Time. I'm Stephanie Pakosta, a travel advisor specializing in multi-generational group travel. 

Ryan: My name is Ryan Joy, and I am a travel advisor focusing on large group trips. Last time on One Slice at a Time, we talked all about Stephanie's amazing trip to Ireland that she is planning for next April. If you haven't listened to that one, definitely go back and give that a listen because you don't wanna miss it if you're thinking about Ireland anytime in the near future 

Stephanie: Right. And guys, if you're interested in the Ireland trip, seats are going to be very limited, so you better send us a message We'll give you permission to pause this podcast, a message to bookings@oneslicepod.com and then come back. 

Ryan: Pull over. Pull over before you do that. 

Stephanie: first if you're listening, yeah. 

Ryan: Yeah 

Stephanie: This is [00:02:00] episode two of our three-part series, The Truth About Modern AirTravel. The last time we talked about this, we talked about airfare myths, basic economy flight choices, and why cheap is not always the same as smart 

Ryan: To be clear, we were not promoting basic economy though. We were talking about how 

Stephanie: that 
 

Ryan: bad it is. 

Stephanie: Yeah 
 

Ryan: But today we're moving from, like, the booking the flights part to the surviving the airports part. Your flight has already been booked. Now you're at the airport. Here's how you don't end up like Stephanie with one shoe in your hand running to the gate 

Stephanie: Sometimes it's not even my shoe. The beauty of having children Pizza Pals, I want you to hear this. Airport stress is not always random, and a lot of it comes from small decisions you made before you ever leave the house 

Ryan: Most always. That, that, that is the truth. The airport does not create every problem. Sometimes the problem [00:03:00] started when someone decided leaving the house 90 minutes before their big international flight was a wise choice 

Stephanie: Guys, we are not judging. We're going to educate you with love 

Ryan: And maybe a lot of side eye.. 

Stephanie: Let's start with families because this is where travel day can go from exciting to chaotic very quickly 

Ryan: Families do not just travel with luggage. They travel with snacks, chargers, stuffed animals, car seats, strollers, tablets, documents, emotional support, water bottles, a flask, and at least one person who suddenly cannot find their shoes 

Stephanie: That's 
 

Ryan: 'cause Stephanie has them in her hands. 

Stephanie: For family trips, guys, that's why planning matters. I strongly prefer morning flights with families when possible because delays build throughout the day. But  

Stephanie: There is a nuance. A 5:15 AM flight with toddlers may not be worth the meltdown if the [00:04:00] family has to wake up at 2:00 AM 

Ryan: So the expert is answer is not always book the earliest flight, 

Stephanie: Mm-hmm. 

Ryan: is choose the flight that gives the best balance of reliability and human survival 

Stephanie: That's right. you live more than an hour away from your airport or you have a very early flight, an airport hotel for the night can completely be a game changer 

Ryan: No kidding. I use this trick all of the time, and I know some people are listening to this and they're thinking, "Why am I gonna pay for a hotel in my own city?" Well 

Stephanie: Well, because leaving home at 3:30 in the morning with kids, luggage, and stress can ruin the first day of your vacation before it even starts. So sometimes that hotel before buys peace and an indoor pool where your kid can wear themselves out and some 

Ryan: I know you keep, I know you keep talking about kids, but I think the same thing is true for the [00:05:00] other side of the equation. 

Stephanie: Right 
 

Ryan: traveling with grandparents, we'll say, it also is nice to give them whatever time they need in the morning to get themselves ready. This is all part of the travel advisor calculation. 

Ryan: We're not talking about just dollars. We include energy, stress, sleep, margin for error, all the things 

Stephanie: That's right. Exactly. And families should think about airport parking, curbside check-in, private transfers, early you need to leave, where are your documents, and whether every carry-on has essentials 

Ryan: I love the idea of each child having a small essentials bag. Snacks, one comfort item, headphones, a change of clothes, and something to do. Why did we say child? Every person has to have this essentials bag, let's be clear 

Stephanie: needs an essential bag, and that's what I'm getting to. Parents need the essentials too. You need your 

Ryan: Yeah 

Stephanie: chargers, your documents, your valuables, change of clothing. Anything that you cannot easily replace should stay in your [00:06:00] carry-on 

Ryan: Okay, so here's my truth. 

Stephanie: one 
 

Ryan: I, I no longer do the one change of clothes, but I'm telling you, my carry-on is full of clean socks and underwear. Like, it's like if I can live without a fresh pair of jeans every day, but I need the other things. 

Stephanie: That's right. 

Ryan: Because if my bag goes to Denver while I'm going to Orlando, at least I have clean underwear 

Stephanie: At 
 

Ryan: and socks. 

Stephanie: That could really make or break the trip right there. 

Ryan: for everybody's sake, make sure you have clean underwear, deodorant, 

Stephanie: Mm-hmm.  

Stephanie: also if you're talking about international travel with kids, do not panic if online check-in doesn't work. Sometimes those passports need to be verified at the counter, and you need to figure that into what time you need to get to the airport, the extra time it takes you to check in in at the counter in case you're not able to check in online for those international flights[00:07:00]  

Ryan: And the reality is there are a ton of different reasons why your online check-in may not work. So don't panic not necessarily anything wrong. It could be that you used miles for it or an upgrade, and sometimes the computer just gets stuck in the system. All kinds of things can happen that'll, that'll lead to that. 

Ryan: So it's a great point. People think that the app failing means that something is wrong. Sometimes it just needs the airline needs to, like, put a human on the subject 

Stephanie: That's right 

Ryan: Let's talk seats though, 'cause people have strong opinions about windows versus aisles, and some people are okay with a middle seat. I don't know who they are 

Stephanie: You're right. But seat selection is more about just preference. This can affect anxiety, sleep, family logistics, medical needs, air sickness, bathroom access, and how smoothly that flight goes.  

Ryan: Window people want control of the shade and a wall to lean on. Aisle people want freedom and bathroom [00:08:00] access. middle seat people, you just got stuck with it. You were a victim of poor planning 

Stephanie: Or basic economy. 

Ryan: That, that too. That too. 

Stephanie: So when I ask clients about seats and Pizza Pals, I want you guys to think about do you guys wanna sit together? Do you get motion sickness, or do you need to be near the restroom? Um, do you have any mobility concerns? Do you have anxiety? Are you traveling with small children? How long is the flight?  

Ryan: Right. It's all sounds basic, and it kind of is, but online booking tools don't ask these questions with any real context, and you need to think about these things if you wanna prioritize a comfortable travel experience 

Stephanie: For sure, 'cause a seat over the wing can feel a bit smoother for someone prone to motion sickness, and an aisle seat may matter for someone who needs to move or has long legs. Um, a family may want to be kinda close to the bathroom, but not necessarily directly beside it 

Ryan: Exit rows are not for everyone. You may get leg room, [00:09:00] but you also have responsibility in an emergency. Children cannot sit there. People with, um, a wheelchair assist on their boarding pass also cannot sit there. 

Stephanie: sit 
 

Ryan: So you need to be able to be physically able and willing to assist 

Stephanie: And sometimes those bulkhead seats may offer a little bit of extra space, but you can lose your under-seat storage. So every seat kinda has trade-offs that you need to think about when you're making these selections 

Ryan: So the point is not everybody needs the fanciest seat. The point is to choose with intention 

Stephanie: Mm-hmm. I mean, if you're on a short flight by yourself, I get it, a less ideal seat may be fine. But if you're flying overnight to Europe with children or heading on a major trip, seat selection is gonna matter a lot 

Ryan: Yeah. It can be the difference between that was manageable and I need two days of a, two days and a large pizza to recover from that experience. 

Stephanie: flight. 

Ryan: Yeah 

Stephanie: So let's talk about some travel day tools that every Pizza Pal should be using. First, non-negotiable, [00:10:00] download the airline app 

Ryan: Yeah, that's not optional. The airline app gives you boarding passes, flight status, gate changes, seat updates, baggage tracking, and sometimes chat support 

Stephanie: I mean, 99% of them are gonna have chat support built into their app. And guys, screenshot that boarding pass. You do not want to assume, like, the Wi-Fi at the airport, your cell signal, or the app is gonna behave the moment that you need it to 

Ryan: I mean, if you're going to the counter for any reason, I always just get the paper pass because 

Stephanie: one is 
 

Ryan: the, uh, 

Stephanie: Yep 
 

Ryan: yeah, because if your cellphone dies, you still got the paper pass. But 

Stephanie: That's right 

Ryan: boarding time is not departure time, and another thing that sounds obvious, but it does cause problems for people 

Stephanie: That's right. It is when you need to be at the gate, not walking through security, Stephanie. Not buying coffee, Stephanie. Not 

Ryan: Stephanie 

Stephanie: Starbucks order, Stephanie. At the gate. 

Ryan: So now another tool are the flight [00:11:00] tracking apps, Flighty, FlightAware, Flight Radar, TripIt Pro, Google Flight Alerts, airline notifications can all help depending on the traveler 

Stephanie: For most clients, I will say the airline app is just the starting point. For frequent travelers or travel advisors like us, um, I use Flighty. I don't know if Ryan uses a certain kind of app to track his clients' flights, but they give better real-time awareness, including inbound aircraft information 

Ryan: Yeah, and that inbound aircraft piece is huge. If your plane has not left its previous city, your on time departure is probably wishful thinking 

Stephanie: So Ryan, next let's talk about Real ID. Um, travelers need to make sure they have a Real ID compliant license or other acceptable IDs, um, like a passport or a trusted traveler card 

Ryan: On your driver's license, that means it has to have a star on it. That's how you know you have a Real ID. And it's one of the things that people ignore [00:12:00] all the time until they're standing at TSA and they get very surprised. This was a huge problem last year when they implemented, uh, Real ID restrictions. 

Ryan: Yep 

Stephanie: Uh, okay guys, we gotta do a side story here because I just booked a honeymoon for someone, they needed to do US Virgin Islands. newsflash, this was my own daughter,  

Stephanie: I said, "Sis, have a real ID?" She's like, "What?" like, "We had to book US Virgin Islands because your passport's expired by a year, and you don't have time to get your passport back before you leave. You need to go to the DMV a week ago and get your real ID stuff done," because it takes a little while, so don't think this is something you can do, like, the day before your flight, guys. You need to get this in process a few months before your trip to make sure you have the physical ID in your hand before you get to TSA 

Stephanie: then for international travel back to the US, another big tip is [00:13:00] mobile passport control, and that's a great free tool if you don't have global entry 

Ryan: Yeah, free is my favorite price after included with the pizza 

Ryan: Mobile passport control can save time at passport control at many airports, um, and the cruise ports. It's not the same as global entry, but it's absolutely worth knowing about 

Ryan: And TSA PreCheck or Global Entry can be very worth it depending on how often you travel. Global Entry includes TSA PreCheck, and it's not that much more expensive. So if you think you're doing one international trip, just get the, Global Entry 

Stephanie: Absolutely. And apply early. appointment timing can be kind of an issue to get an appointment and have plenty of time to get your Global Entry done. And I will 

Ryan: Yeah 

Stephanie: guys, that Global Entry or TSA PreCheck is good for five years. It's not super expensive. Most of the time your credit card, if you have a credit card with some sort of travel rewards, will cover or reimburse the cost of it. [00:14:00] do it. It is so worth it. Saves you so much time at the airport 

Ryan: Let's talk about medicine, nursing moms, special services 

Stephanie: Yeah, because this is a section that can really reduce stress if people know these rules before they fly 

Ryan: Right. Don't check medication ever 

Stephanie: ever. Mm-mm. Medications, including injectables, so my girls that are on your weight loss shots or anything like that, especially if you have insulin or anything, they need to go in the original packaging in your carry-on luggage with the prescription labels on it. If you use syringes, any kind of auto-injector devices like insulin pumps, be prepared to declare them at TSA 

Ryan: Medically necessary liquids are handled differently than regular liquids, but you need to tell the officer before screening 

Stephanie: That's right. And i- for international travel, [00:15:00] check your destination rules or have your travel advisor check those rules at the destination. Some countries do have restrictions on certain kinds of medications that come in and out of the country and require special documentation 

Ryan: And you might think this whole thing doesn't apply to you, but there are really a lot of people that are using injectables these days, GLP-1, hormone medications, insulin, 

Stephanie: Yeah 
 

Ryan: all kinds of things that require, um, this special handling 

Stephanie: Right. And if a medication needs refrigeration, there are travel, coolers that easily fit in your luggage. But plan that with the documentation and you guys will be fine 

Ryan: Okay. For nursing moms, breast milk is allowed through security and is exempt from the usual liquid limits. Pumps, freezer packs, and milk need to be packed in a way that makes screening easier 

Stephanie: Right? Have it out where you can get it out and make it very available and be able to look through. Don't have it buried somewhere. 

Ryan: [00:16:00] Right 
 

Stephanie: are required to have private lactation spaces in the terminals, not in the bathrooms. Still, I recommend looking up where those locations are in the airport you're going to on your trip in advance so you're prepared 

Ryan: Yep. And special m- services matter too. Wheelchair assistance, medical devices, CPAPs, oxygen, sensory needs, anxiety, food allergies, bassinets, boarding help. These should be handled before ticketing whenever possible. And I wanna say something about wheelchair assistance because there's a lot of you that might be booking a trip with your mom or your dad, and they might be too proud to push that button for wheelchair assistance themselves. 

Stephanie: the button. 

Ryan: Push the, push the button and let them know since they, they probably also don't have TSA PreCheck. 

Stephanie: Right 
 

Ryan: If you have a wheelchair assist, you're gonna skip that line. That is what it takes for, to get my in-laws to push the button. 

Stephanie: on the other spectrum, like we talked about traveling with toddlers or, young children, and how that [00:17:00] requires some special, you know, um, pre-planning. Traveling with older parents and grandparents, that requires some special planning too. you have to think about, "Oh, I can just help my mom or dad." if you guys are in a tight connection trying to get grandma or grandpa to the next plane, and they, they have like a cane or something, that could take a while. Just get them the wheelchair, tell them it's because you don't wanna wait on them, walk too slow, whatever. 

Ryan: Yep. 

Stephanie: Be like, 

Ryan: Whatever you need to do 

Stephanie: this." 
 

Stephanie: You know, whatever you need to do. and you have to think about, you are gonna have all this other luggage to carry as well, so having somebody just there to assist grandma or grandpa, would be a great way to reduce the stress before your vacation even starts 

Ryan: That's right 

Stephanie: All these little caveats about your travel day is exactly Why a good travel planner does more than just books your hotels 

Ryan: A lot of what we do happens before the client ever gets to the airport. Document reminders, seat [00:18:00] strategy, app reminders, travel insurance guidance, special service requests, transfers, family travel prep, and helping people understand what to expect 

Stephanie: That's right. For group trips, families, multi-generational trips, all of these things, those details are going to matter 

Ryan: A smooth travel day does not happen by accident. It happens because someone thought through the friction points before they became problems 

Stephanie: So if you want help planning a trip that feels supported from the first airport to the last transfer home, please reach out to us. That exactly is the kind of planning that Ryan and I love to do. And now it's time for Ryan's crusty review 

Ryan: I wondered when the heck we were gonna start talking about pizza. This was getting out of hand. 

Stephanie: long one. 

Ryan: This was getting out of hand. Yeah. Well, wheel me right over to a pizza. 

Stephanie: The 
 

Ryan: So, all right, so here's a bad choice we made recently. [00:19:00] So I have a little nostalgia from childhood about the box of Chef Boyardee pizza. 

Ryan: usually my mom gives me one for Christmas as, like, a extra thing under the tree. So, so I had, I had a couple of them actually in the cupboard. So the other day I pulled... And I said, "We gotta clear up some space in the cupboard. 

Ryan: Let's just, you know, cut bait and we're gonna eat these Chef Boyardees." So we did. It's pretty bad, guys. It's, it's, it's pretty bad. Like, you could, you could do a lot better on your own. It's edible, but, like, probably a three or a two. There's a lot of... There's a lot better pizza to be had Even a frozen pizza I think would be better 

Stephanie: Is better than this? 

Ryan: I mean, you could dress it up and, and trust me, that's what I do is like, okay, we've got the crust, that's the [00:20:00] basics. 

Ryan: Okay. Then you get the... They have a can of sauce in there, and I'm, like, adding all the Italian seasoning and the basil and all the things I can. And then I've, you know, getting some good cheese to put on there and whatnot, and it's still just kind of okay. So 

Stephanie: Yeah, I 

Ryan: do yourself a solid and get a DiGiorno. I don't ca- I don't know. 

Ryan: Yeah. So 

Stephanie: Did you happen to check the expiration dates on these Chef Boyardee boxes? 

Ryan: We were good. We were good. 

Stephanie: And that, guys, was the lowest pizza slice, rating that any pizza ever got on a Crusty Review. 

Ryan: Yep. 

Stephanie: Oh my gosh. 

Ryan: not like I'm gonna stop eating it though. Like it's 

Stephanie: So that we've talked about the worst pizza Ryan's ever had, let's talk about lost luggage, which is about the worst thing that could happen. I mean, besides completely canceling your flight, losing your luggage is the worst thing that can happen on a [00:21:00] travel day 

Ryan: And we've already talked about some of the solutions, right? You're, you're packing your carry-on with intention, with an extra change of clothes, several pairs of underwear, socks, deodorant, that kind of thing, but also your medication. We talked about that. That has to go in your carry-on. Your passports are gonna go with you at all times. 

Ryan: Expensive jewelry, you don't wanna be throwing that, you know, in your bag and just risking it. Chargers, your glasses, your eyeglasses, 

Stephanie: Mm-hmm. 

Ryan: any one-of-a-kind items need to be in your carry-on bag 

Stephanie: Right. And guys, this means on the way home, I throw all my dirty clothes in my check bag and bring back those one of a kind priceless souvenirs and Mickey ears that I bought on my last trip. 

Ryan: Yeah, and I also, whatever little bit of clean clothes I have, they're going in my, my bag. In case I get stuck in a connection airport or something, you know? 

Stephanie: yeah, yep. 

Ryan: Yep 

Stephanie: um, make sure you spread essentials across multiple [00:22:00] bags. Now, I know kids, and kids, they want, "This is my bag, and I'm putting everything in my bag." But if they lose one person's bag, they've got no other clothes or items with them. So they're not gonna usually lose all of your bags. Sometimes they do, but they'll lose, like, one bag out of three or four. 

Ryan: Yeah 

Stephanie: spread the family's clothings and items across multiple bags if you're bringing multiple bags 

Ryan: You're also an AirTag user 

Stephanie: Oh, definitely. I'm 100% a AirTag user. They lost our bags coming back from Vienna last year, and I knew exactly where my bags were because of the AirTags 

Ryan: If checked bag does not arrive, do not leave the airport without filling out a report with the airline. Get the report number, ask about delivery, ask about interim expenses, keep receipts, all the things. 

Stephanie: that's 
 

Ryan: And yeah, also, [00:23:00] if you are planning to make a, an insurance claim because of a baggage delay, make sure you have all the information. 

Ryan: Take pictures of things like 

Stephanie: Mm-hmm. 

Ryan: whatever you need to, whatever you need to be able to prove to the insurance company. Because remember, you bought travel protection because you wanted to have your trip protected, 

Stephanie: Mm-hmm. 

Ryan: but it's still an insurance company, so you're gonna have to prove it 

Stephanie: That's right. some little pro tips here, guys, with the Air Tags. Take photos of your bags before you leave. Um, 

Ryan: Hmm. 

Stephanie: bags kinda look the same. T- tie something on there besides just your luggage tag to give it something that shows that it's yours, like even a little bit of a ribbon or something on your checked bag, can really be a lifesaver to g- distinguish it from other bags that look exactly identical.  

Stephanie: most your airlines will be able to do this through the app. They'll have a luggage tracker, so make sure that you connect your luggage to [00:24:00] your, boarding pass and with your tickets on that airline app, 'cause it's a great way to keep track of what they're doing or what they haven't done yet with your lost luggage 

Ryan: Right. Okay, let's talk about airport behavior, Stephanie 

Stephanie: Now careful here. My airport behavior is arrive way later than I should and go get in line for Starbucks. 

Ryan: Okay, but what about gate crowding? I'm telling you, the ga- agents call us gate lice if we crowd the gates. Standing up the second the plane lands, blocking the aisle, putting tiny bags in the overhead bin when the flight is full. These are all choices that you're making that are making somebody else's day a little more stressful. 

Ryan: Yeah. 

Stephanie: That is right. Some basic etiquette would help everyone 

Ryan: Here's my tip on this, uh, wanting to put your small bags in the [00:25:00] overhead Book the bulkhead because then at least you have an excuse because you don't have an overhead. And if you book the bulkhead, then you don't have a chair in front of you, then you have to put your bags up. So if that is a thing that you, if that is the thing that you must do, then book that seat  

Stephanie: while I'm on this, there's actually pictures the overhead bins that show you how to put your bag in there correctly. So most of them now are side, out, not on the back. So that actually takes up a lot of overhead space on these super full flights too, is when everybody has their bags laying flat when they should be up on their sides. 

Stephanie: And then your backpack, your purse, your shopping bag that you brought with you in addition to your carry-on, those things go under the seat in front of you guys. 

Ryan: Yeah. Some basic etiquette will help everyone. Keep your important items under the seat if you can. Listen for boarding groups. Don't crowd the gate. [00:26:00] Let people with tight connections off the plane when possible 

Stephanie: when possible. Otherwise, you know, you're not getting off that plane if you're in the back row. So standing up as soon as the airport lands, you're just gonna be standing for a while. Another thing I'm gonna add here is, you know, it's kinda nice to help the other people around you get their luggage out of the overhead bin. 

Stephanie: it is nice if you're getting your luggage and the person in the seat next to you needs theirs. It just kinda helps with, like, the scramble of everybody trying to get out in the aisle and get their luggage. If you have, like, that one person that is on the aisle seat helping everyone, if possible, luggage out of the bin before they move on But let's get to where all of the nice travelers get to go, all these professional travelers, the airport lounges. 

Ryan: Don't take my lounge away. That is the thing. Like, it's why we have the status and the credit cards and all that stuff, because we need a lounge 

Stephanie: Ryan needs a lounge and [00:27:00] I need a robe. That's our conditions of travel. 

Ryan: Priority Pass, airline lounges, credit card lounges, they all have different access rules. The key is to check before travel and not assume 

Stephanie: Absolutely. For families, lounges can be very helpful if there's food, space, bathrooms, charging areas. 

Ryan: Showers, 

Stephanie: busy times, exactly, can be full 

Ryan: Yeah, so the lounge is not magic. They are a tool. Helpful, not always enough to save the whole pizza, but you might get a slice. You know 

Stephanie: That's right. So guys, the big lesson here today is airport survival starts before travel day with a little bit of pre-planning 

Ryan: Download the apps, screenshot the boarding pass, pack essentials in your carry-on bag, check documents, get the wheelchair assist if it's needed. Think through your seats. Leave earlier than [00:28:00] your optimistic self wants to 

Stephanie: Okay, Ryan, I will. And when you're traveling with kids or family members, medical needs, or any big trips, just give yourself more time 

Ryan: Yeah, the goal is not to be perfect. The goal is to reduce the number of things that can go wrong on that day 

Stephanie: That's for sure. So Ryan, speaking back to what goes wrong, I know we're not having Chef Boyardee pizza tonight. are we having for dinner tonight? 

Ryan: Man, after Chef Boyardee pizza, I am jonesing for something delicious, so I'm just gonna have to go back and listen to last week's episode of One Slice at a Time, where I know I talked about eight out of eight, 

Stephanie: Dough 
 

Ryan: and then I'm gonna go there. 

Stephanie: of eight. 

Ryan: I'm gonna go there 

Stephanie: Sounds good. Guys, if you want more of me and Ryan, go subscribe to our newsletter at extracheese.fun 

Ryan: And if you have any travel coming up that you'd like help with, let us know. You can reach out to us at [00:29:00] bookings@oneslicepod.com 

Stephanie: Thanks for tuning in this week. Until next time, and keep traveling the world 

Ryan: One slice at a time. 

Stephanie: Bye 
 

Ryan: Bye