Best Friends, Bloodlines & Blunt Truths: Debbie & Ashley’s Wild Ride Part 1

Episode 8: Best Friends, Bloodlines & Blunt Truths: Debbie & Ashley’s Wild Ride Part 1

Ever had a friendship so deep, so loyal, and so wild that it feels like no one else would even get it? Now imagine that friend is also your aunt. In this episode of Slightly Unsupervised, Jennifer and Jackie hit record in a Vegas hotel room with Debbie and Ashley—niece and aunt, secret-keepers, and soulmates by choice.

From vintage thrift store adventures and meme marathons to a hard truth that literally saved a life, their bond is layered, hilarious, and deeply real. They talk about being judged by family, being misunderstood, and why they never let a fight last longer than a day. This one is for anyone who's ever found a best friend in the most unexpected place.

In This Episode:

Why their 12-year age gap made them closer [03:15]
 How meme-sharing became their love language [06:50]
 When family judges your friendship (and you stop caring) [09:40]
 The hard truth Debbie told that changed Ashley’s life [13:30]
 Their rehab story, rebrands as “going to camp” [17:45]
 Why unconditional love looks like calling someone out [21:10]
 How they navigate fights, forgiveness, and family drama [23:00]

If you’ve ever felt like your friendship didn’t fit the mold—or if you’re lucky enough to have someone who holds your secrets and your heart—this episode is your love letter.

🎁 Bonus Segment: Rapid Fire Bestie Questions—Vegas edition.
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Transcript

Jennifer 0:00

Hey there, I'm Jennifer. And I'm Jackie. And welcome to Slightly Unsupervised. We're best friends, business partners, and the chaos behind bestimony, a ceremony we created to celebrate the kind of soulmates that don't come with a marriage license. This podcast is all about that friendship energy, the deep stuff, the messy stuff, and the laugh till you snort stuff. So whether you're driving, folding laundry, or hiding in your car for some peace and quiet, you're in good company. Let's get slightly unsupervised. Welcome everybody to our podcast today. We have in our hotel room in Vegas now, we have a couple of friends. Actually, people, we know one of them really well, and they're here doing a podcast for us about being best friends. And their story is a little different because they are best friends and they are related to each other. Not sisters, though. So I'm gonna turn the mic over to both of you for just a minute. If you want to explain how you guys are related to each other.

Ashley 0:53

Hi, I'm Ashley, and this is my aunt Debbie. But we are best friends from day one. Day one. So what what is the age difference between you guys?

Jennifer 1:03

Um 12 years. 12 years. You are Debbie's niece, and you are her brother's daughter. Daughter. But there's a 12-year difference between you. Yep. So my mom's granddaughter. And your mom's granddaughter. Um, you guys, we know Debbie from um when she was like 18, 16 to 18. So you were a small child back then. So when did you guys become like solid best friends? Um when I was 13. When you were 13. So let's see, she would be 25. So at 13 to 25, you guys started hanging out. She gave me my first alcohol. She did. At 13, you started drinking with your aunt and having alcohol. Is that correct? Correct. Okay, so you're in 13, you're in eighth grade. Yep. So then you went to high school. Did did your aunt go to like parties with you in high school?

Ashley 1:54

No. No, no. So, but she like was she was always in the back. She was always there for me with every I could come to her with all of my problems. Right. I could tell her everything, anything.

Jennifer 2:05

Right. So one thing about uh Debbie is that she's kind of like a rockabilly, retro, vintage-y, like soul. She's cool, yeah. And she was that way when we were in school together. Like that's just always been kind of her vibe. So, did she teach you how to dress? Did she dress you up in all that cool vintage-y?

Ashley 2:24

She did, but I mean, I still have my own style now.

Jennifer 2:27

Yeah. But she tried to influence you, of course. Yeah.

Ashley 2:31

Yeah, she still does. Like, this will look cute on here. And I'm like, nah, it's not my vibe.

Jennifer 2:34

Yeah. So you we're in Vegas, and this is where we're podcasting from. So uh one of the things that Debbie does, and you guys, I guess, do it together, right? Is this kind of vintage-y thing, this this store thing that you guys do. Tell us a little bit about that. This is all you. Debbie's a little shy, so we're gonna get her to talk. What is the name of the place that you uh have all your cool vintage stuff?

Debra 2:56

The thrifted owl. The thrifted out. And that's it in what part of in Las Vegas. It's uh it's kind of by South Point on Las Vegas Boulevard. Okay, so it's actually on the street. It's a yeah, it's an antique mall, antique mall.

Jennifer 3:08

And so you have a big space there, and what is the what kind of stuff do you guys?

Debra 3:13

We do um clothing, uh, vintage, 50s, 60s. I have Y2K and all that kind of stuff. So where do you get all your stuff? Right. It's a secret. Ancient family secret. Started with my dad. He used to take me when I was um 15, 14. We'd go down to LA and we would like he would take me for storing us back all three Melrose and all that kind of area. Even San Mardino, I'd come back with like a stuff.

Ashley 3:39

It's just in your soul. Then we progress to another man's treasure at the dump.

Debra 3:43

That's one thing I miss about it. Another man's dump.

Jennifer 3:46

Another man's dump. They have a thrift store at the um at the dump. Yeah, I know. Like the second hand they pull it out of the before it goes into the landfill. There's nothing wrong with that. No, awesome. Okay, so you guys have been best friends since you're 13 and you're 25. And though, although I assume you were part of her raising as she was getting up to 13 years old. Oh, yes. Yeah. So just really like a sister, like a little sister.

Ashley 4:09

Well, like sister, mom, friend. Yeah. Sister mom friend. Yeah. I could just come to her with everything that I could go to my mom with, or even my sister.

Debra 4:17

Yeah. Yeah.

Ashley 4:17

Yeah. So they never judged me.

Debra 4:20

Yeah. It reached a different level between us. It wasn't like, you know, you have a certain relationship with your sister, you can tell her some things or that, or your mom. But it's like her and I like we know a lot about each other. Never told mom. She never told.

Jennifer 4:35

She kept your secrets. Yep. Which is awesome. Yeah. It is awesome. Yeah, because you can have somebody in the family that knows you that well and then has your back, but it still is in the family unit. Right.

Debra 4:46

At least we had fear because of that doing this podcast because we know so much about each other. We were like, wait a minute, how far do we go into this? How far do we get back? Yeah.

Jennifer 4:55

Well, I think that what the part that we think is interesting is that you guys are related to each other and you're best friends. So I guess you could have like sisters that are best friends, or mom and a daughter that are best friends, but like you guys are not, you're neither one of those. So let's have like Christmas. Like, what is the whole thing? You guys go to every holiday, everything together. That's kind of a unique situation in that you guys spend all that time together, and you really are best friends, but not like an age is not a close thing either. So it's a little different of a little different of a dynamic there.

Ashley 5:29

Yeah. Well, she's really young at heart. I'm a little battle star at heart. You are, yeah. You have an old soul and you're a younger soul. So that's why we go together, but then like at family functions, we're always like in the corner by ourselves. Like, oh my god. Yeah, yeah.

Jennifer 5:44

They get mad. So we try to try to separate. Yeah. So, like, do you like every time there's a meal, you guys sit together and you're like pretty much.

Debra 5:53

Well, we don't we don't sit together because she never sits when she eats, she always has to stand in like the corner and eat the thing. I have really high anxiety, especially around family.

Jennifer 6:04

Oh, she yeah, exactly. So you sit in the corner and eat and you sit down with everybody and eat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So do you guys drive your family? Does it does it drive your family nuts that you guys are like such best friends? Yes, it does. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like what is the comments you get from that?

Ashley 6:19

Well, my sisters get mad because I'm not as close to them as I am with her. Oh, so you have sisters. I have two sisters. Are you the oldest? No. I'm the youngest sister. I have a little brother, though.

Jennifer 6:28

You have oh, so you have two older sisters. How are you close to your other nieces too?

Ashley 6:32

Oh, yeah. Well, yeah. My sister was her best friend growing up. That's how my parents met.

Debra 6:38

Oh, okay. So I kind of think that was where it kind of messed up because we were best friends. We had different dots, me and my two sisters. Yeah. Okay, gotcha. Her and I were best friends, and all of a sudden it was like her and I became best friends, and I think that's where kind of because she was best friends with my sister.

Ashley 6:53

So it was kind of the same, but totally different.

Jennifer 6:56

Gotcha. So that's awesome. So do you guys so do you both live here in Vegas then? Yes. Okay, so you're Vegas and you're in Vegas. And then did you move here because she moved here or she moved here because you moved here?

Ashley 7:07

She moved here first. Um, I came and visited her a few times, but then I didn't move here until I was 30. Oh, okay.

Jennifer 7:14

So 12 years. 12 years ago. Yeah. Okay. So are you guys big fans of living in Vegas?

Ashley 7:20

Are you um I mean I love it, but yeah, but it's hard sometimes. Sure. Yeah.

Debra 7:26

But it's what was the comment I said yesterday? I mean, a couple days ago. What? Like if I if we move, yeah.

Ashley 7:32

She was well, she was like, I I want to move because I hate everything about everything that's going on. She was like, but if I move and then it was just me, then it was just me that I want to get away from. Yeah, it's like so I moved from the mountains to here to get away from my crazy life, which is crazy. You're gonna move to Vegas to get away from your crazy life, yeah.

Jennifer 7:52

Right, exactly. Can it be any more crazy? You did so it calmed out totally. That's interesting. Yeah, because this is like a very uh Well, we just stay away from the strip. Oh, yeah. Well, it's the same, like, well, because we all grew up in the uh Mount Camino, people are like, it's a resort here, and it's like, yeah, they were there on the weekends, but like you avoid it. Yeah, so I'm sure that's what you guys do here too. It's not like you're out in the middle being a tourist hanging out on the Yeah, that was the problem with Arrowhead though.

Debra 8:18

Ashley and I like we shared that. It's like we don't we didn't avoid it. Like when the Flatlanders came up, it was like you partied with them. No, so it was like it was good for us. It was good for us to get out of there, get out of there. Yeah, we love it and it's in our um, it's in our hearts and it's our souls, and we just like you know, still like Do you guys ever get to go back there?

Ashley 8:38

Is there anybody there that you guys still know? Uh well, there's a lot of people that we know, but not family. Not family anymore. Yeah, okay. But we do go back sometimes, yeah.

Jennifer 8:46

So do you guys like do like like if you did like a bestie vacation, like we do, girls, whatever. Do you guys do like how does that work? Do you guys do like girls' weekends away kind of thing?

Ashley 8:57

Because you guys are related to each other, so well we have we we have we've gone to Reno a couple times, yeah. A blast. I bet, yeah. So it's like upside down Las Vegas, yeah.

Jennifer 9:07

It is, yeah, it's our favorite small, yeah, but it's the same. It's a small, yeah. It's like a little version of it, yeah.

Ashley 9:13

Okay, yeah, we do family vacations and they're always just crazy. So with all your family though, every time it's been crazy.

Debra 9:20

It's kind of hard because her and I are are um we're family, so like when we want to go, everybody wants to go.

Ashley 9:26

We can't just go like escape together. And then my sister and were best friends growing up, they're not anymore. So okay. Well, they're not snooze, I guess.

Jennifer 9:34

I don't know. Well, they're not there's a lot of laughing going on here, so I'm not sure what's going on, but okay. So one of the things that we like to challenge besties to know is how much do you guys know each other? So I'm gonna ask you some questions and we'll go back and forth. So we're gonna start with you, Ashley, because you like to talk more than Debbie. You're definitely grouped on. Who's more likely to cry during the movie? Me, for sure. You? You don't think Debbie wouldn't cry? No, she's just needs heartless.

Ashley 10:04

Pay attention, she goes to the bathroom, she's sleeping, she's coughing, she's eating, paying attention to the whole day. And she's like, What happened?

Jennifer 10:11

Yeah, so I'm gonna cry. So you're gonna cry, and she's just gonna be running around us. And does she like what happened during that movie? Like, oh yeah, for sure.

Ashley 10:20

I'm like, that was the best movie. And she was like, Oh, I just woke up.

Jennifer 10:23

Yeah, it's awful. So basically, you pay attention for the both of you. Yes, I got you. So I explain it all to her, and then you do, and then you go on, and she's like, I saw part of that, but then I would have went to sleep. I want to go to the bathroom. She always has to go to the bathroom. That's awesome. So it's definitely you because you're the only one actually even paid attention. Yeah. Now, if Debbie did pay attention for a minute, do you think she would cry or she? She's definitely not crying. I hold all of the emotion in this relationship.

Ashley 10:52

Shh. That is good. I would cry for her if I need to.

Jennifer 10:59

I'm good at that. So it would scare you if she actually cried. You'd be like, oh my god, something. Yeah, when she cries, it's like, oh. Well, good to know. So as the crier of the group. So, Debbie, this is your turn. Are you ready? Who cancels plans but still expects a full recap?

Debra 11:14

Both of us. We'll like make plans. So, like, let's go here on Saturday night. Let's go dancing, let's go do this. And all of a sudden we like go see. We're like, we're like we are like into bed right now. I know, and we like, we like, there's like no text. Like, we'll sit there and like, we'll sit there, like, like, okay, and then we'll be like, what happened last Sunday? And they'll be like, I had a stomachache. Like, seriously, like a couple Saturdays ago, we're like, we're like, okay, yeah, we need to do this and this and this, and all of a sudden we didn't talk all day Saturday. So you're like, no, we talk every day, but those days when we plan something, there's like nothing from us.

Ashley 11:47

We're like, oh, and then we have to make up excuses, like I had a stomachache, or like the kids like a water stuff.

Debra 11:55

And then like then they're going at addictive 20 people's garbage and excuse.

Jennifer 12:00

Well, you're a vintage girl, so yeah, dig dig dumpsters is part of the whole package of that. I curate, I curate, I find it. So basically, you do like most people do, you like make these big plans, you want to do them, you have high hopes, and then the day comes, you're like, I don't want to do any of that. Like, I just want to go to bed and hang out. So, okay, perfect. Okay, so it's back to Ashley. Who gives better advice but never follows it? Oh, that's a hard one.

Ashley 12:22

Because I give really good advice. Do you? Yes. Are you like the therapist of the family? Yeah, yeah, I do. I do, but she she gives me really good advice too. Like does she? We always have heart to hearts, but um, yeah, I do. I have a more like clear head than she does sometimes. Right. She's a little fogged. But she does, but I understand it. Some other people don't, right? Well, she has more discernment.

Debra 12:47

Her um, her, like she she can spot things a mile a mile away. She um like everything she says, it's like in a person or a situation, she brings that wisdom to it, and it's just it's crazy. The old soul in that. Yeah, like she already knows the old soul part of it.

Jennifer 13:04

Yeah, well, I try to look at all the perspectives. Right. Yeah, and so if you were like if you wanted relationship advice, are you actually the more are you the one that has more of a grip on that than like who would you go to?

Ashley 13:17

You're like you're either probably me, yeah. Her and her husband have a weird relationship, they're they're amazing, they are amazing, but they're totally different than mine and my husband's relationship.

Jennifer 13:29

Okay, for sure.

Ashley 13:30

For sure, yeah. But so we both give each other different aspects on our relationships. She's been married way longer than I have, right?

Debra 13:38

35 years. So she's at the point of like, oh my god, we had sex all night long. And I'm like, and I'm sitting there going, okay, we ordered five guys, George Ash, and we fell asleep. Well, yeah, and she's like, Didn't you didn't have sex? I'm all 55. We're text each other, we're texting each other memes and like stuff. We're at that age.

Jennifer 13:57

You mean you and your husband do. Yeah, yeah, that's awesome. Okay, so back to Debbie, who's the group chat instigator?

Debra 14:04

You because if she doesn't, well, if she doesn't like, okay, this is this is my thought. If some mornings win or something, because we're always texting each other and she doesn't instigate it, I instigate with her, which is really weird because I don't instigate it with anybody else. Just her. Oh, you know what I mean? I'm not a I'm not a person to where I reach out, I get in my own world and stuff like that. Let's just get up in the morning. Like, are you texting right away?

Jennifer 14:30

Yes. Like, yeah, I'm taking my I just had a coffee. And then do you like who goes to bed first? Because if you're texting all day long, like when is the last text? Is it before you go to sleep? Or do you like go goodnight, love you by the way?

Ashley 14:42

Well, we're like very conscious of each other's sleep. I I don't sleep, it goes a bit often. So she knows not to like text me at a certain time at night. Yeah, because she doesn't want to wake me up.

Jennifer 14:53

Yeah.

Ashley 14:53

If I'm trying to sleep, if you do you happen to get asleep that you're sleeping, it's very hard for me to sleep. Is it yeah?

Debra 15:01

And then during that time, that's when I'm sending you a thousand, thousand like Instagram, but I have all my notifications off because of her.

Jennifer 15:07

You do so you turn the phone, you like all the notifications off, silence your phone because you want to get some sleep.

Ashley 15:12

She sends me probably 45 Instagram instant messages a day, and I'll send her one and she won't even look at it. Because she's so rapidly setting. In hers. So and then I so like the only time I have to like watch all of her videos is when I'm sitting on the toilets in the morning. So I like go through it's like homework every morning. I'm like, all right, I laughed at that. Sometimes I don't watch them all. I just kind of like, okay, that was probably funny. You kind of like preview it, you're like, it doesn't look like it'll be very good. So maybe not, yeah. So they watch and when they're like more than a minute long.

Jennifer 15:47

Oh yeah. Oh no. No, no, no. I'm with you on that. It's like when somebody posts like an inspirational saying maybe that's like two paragraphs, you're like, yeah, no, move on. I can't possibly go through every line of that. We're just like, and then you roll in, it's like five words. You're like, that I got.

Ashley 16:05

Yeah. But then sometimes you get caught because you laugh at it and they're like, that wasn't fun.

Jennifer 16:11

Like, oh man, that's awkward. For sure. Like trying to go back and fix your emojis.

Ashley 16:17

Like, oh, the rest of them are on carry. They're missing. So she doesn't even watch mine, so I'm not even so.

Jennifer 16:24

Yeah. So you uh so tomorrow morning will be your homework when we watch all the the Instagram things.

Debra 16:29

No, well, sometimes I feel bad because I go back. I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh crap, she sent me one a week ago. Mine are great. No, like hers are like seasoned, and there's something like I haven't seen before. And they're great.

Jennifer 16:42

Great. But you do you miss them sometimes. Yeah, all the time. Yeah, I have to admit, yeah, I do. Because you sent so many, and by the time that you look back at yours, you can't even see hers because it's so far up. Yeah.

Debra 16:53

Like even, like even Jackie, Jackie, like even Facebook me. She Facebook called me to get a hold of me for this podcast. And I'm like, I don't even see it because I'm like, because I'm so busy, like, you know, in the dumpsters. Yeah, like the dumpsters or or posting, like, you know, something like Ashley. No, it's all Ashley. And I go, you know what? You have to appreciate that's how many times I thought about you during that day. That's right. At 20 times, it's like I thought about you. This is you, this is you. Don't let me get like this. Yeah.

Jennifer 17:27

But like 401, so when I'm this old, don't be doing this to me or whatever. Yeah, yeah. We talk about that because Jackie and I talk about like memes are it's like uh get in like in high school. Remember when in the 80s we could like write notes to each other, we pass them in the hallway.

Debra 17:41

I still have a lot of my do you have bags and bags of them. Yeah, that's awesome.

Jennifer 17:45

Should we go back and read through them and just be like, what kind of mind did we have back in the old 80s? I have a letter from Jackie. This is a true story. I still have it. I don't know, it's maybe one note that I save from her, and I read it. It is front to back, every line, every word, and not one period. I do that too. Two pages of the same. We went to writ. I didn't read them. You went to writ too. But I'm sure that my letters, although you didn't save them, would be the same way. It's like we didn't stop to think about an act of we just kept writing. So I think that's how my text messages are.

Ashley 18:24

Yeah. I have to like, I have to school her a little bit on punctuation and spelling and yeah, she's like there, not there. Yeah, I'm like, she's like, it's there though. And I'm like, yeah, but I'm reading that they are, it's not 20 minutes and they're there. I'm like, okay, fine. But you understood it better than her, but I'm so bad.

Jennifer 18:44

Yeah, right. I mean, but if you can get the theirs together, it's like, yeah, why do we have so many of the same word? Yeah, it's ridiculous.

Debra 18:50

If you have to admit, we have to admit since Chat GPT, she's pretty smart. Solved the world's problems with Chat GPT. She's pretty smart now. Yeah, I'm like, oh yeah, full on.

Jennifer 19:01

We call her we call her Annabelle Iris. She's the main secretary, we have.

Debra 19:05

Annabelle, you don't even want to go into Annabelle. Oh, you have an Annabelle that you're Annabelle. The doll? Right. Well, Annabelle, we got into the whole um like Annabelle the doll. Oh conjuring that that went on tort. Yes. And then my mind, I'm like, let's make a tour shirt for her. She went to Texas. This happened. I want to make this cool, like, rock star Annabelle shirt. She's like, I don't think that's a good idea. But people actually died. And I wanted to so bad. I'm like, let's just make a tour shirt for her, please. We can sell it. And she's like, no. That was her wisdom. That was her wisdom. Wisdom by death. No, because we do we want to die yet? I guess we don't.

Jennifer 19:47

Okay. Okay. Perfect. So we're going back to Ashley. Who has the talk? Well, who talks the most during a scary movie? It has to be you, because you're not even really paying attention, Debbie, right? You're just like all over. I'm going to the bathroom, I'll be back, and you're still watching the show. And you have to give the recap later.

Debra 20:04

Actually, we go back to our childhood in this because who talked most in a scary movie was my dad. Really? Yeah, he made it.

Ashley 20:13

Really? Yeah. And you talked during the whole thing. Because you made it funny. Oh, he did. Yeah.

Jennifer 20:17

So he turned the scary into kind of funny.

Ashley 20:19

Like make fun of the scary part of it. So you're not scared. So I was never scared. And then I grew up and actually watched a scary movie without him.

Jennifer 20:25

And I was like, he's like running. He's like, look, chicken is having sex. That was part of the sex now. That was like part of the child that was like Halloween and like just being frightened to death. And like, but they say that, and I don't know if you've ever seen that, but they say that if you took the music out of those movies and we just watched the filming of it, it's not that bad. That scared the shit out of us. Yeah. It's the same with those years. But remember the what's that show? Unsolved Mysteries movies. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. It's like the music in the beginning is like, oh my God. It's not scary. Yeah. Take the music out. Like it's screwing us out for sure. Okay. Debbie, this is up to you. Who's more savage in the comments section? Debbie. Jackie would say me if we were having this conversation.

Ashley 21:11

Probably Debbie, because I'm very not full.

Jennifer 21:15

Really? Yeah. She's like when a hard truth has to be said, who's better at saying it? Like a for sure. Yeah. Like you will step up and do it. Yeah, no.

Debra 21:22

She's not. Is this like the comment on um like social media or just in live?

Jennifer 21:27

Like life. Like comment needs to be said it's you. Yeah. Yeah.

Debra 21:30

Yeah, definitely.

Jennifer 21:31

I like to keep the peace. You do. Like you like to be like fluffy. Let's keep everybody happy. And sometimes you're like, no, this is going on. Like say it.

Debra 21:38

Yeah. A lot of a lot of um like situations in in our lives we've had we had to deal with that. So even like in um the family realm and even in like with her parents and stuff like that. You know, to be like, um, hey, hello, Ashley's on drugs. They're like, no, she's not. I'm like, yeah, she is, she needs help. So you were the one. Mom, Down. Always. And you were like, I don't think one of the girls going on here. Like one of the girls is like, I was like, Did you tell them this and their the family this? And they're like, no. They're like, that's your job. I'm like, thanks.

Ashley 22:14

Yeah. Well, that was one secret that she did let loose. That I, you know, always said that she was my secret keeper, but she did, but it was to save to save you. Yeah.

Debra 22:23

What did I say right before that? I told everyone. I said, I don't care. I love you more. I never want you to hate me. But if you hate me for this, that's okay. Yeah, I can live with it. Yeah.

Jennifer 22:31

And she did. She saved me. Yeah. I can live with it because you're I'm saving your life.

Debra 22:35

Yeah. And I told her that. I go, this is going to, I like explained that to her. I'm all this is gonna happen. I go, I'm telling the family because we need to get other help. Yeah, you know. I was pissed. Oh, yeah. I go she saves. I go, you're gonna hate me for this, and I don't care. I love you so much that I don't care. Right.

Jennifer 22:52

Which is about it. I love you. That's like the true sense of blood. Like, yeah, I'll let you be mad to save you. Yeah, I was a baby though.

Debra 22:59

Well, you were more than 13, were you? Oh, it's not. Oh, okay. Have we ever really fought? I mean, like, we've not like we've like one time at Applebee's. We just lost our house in like the freaking in the in the um California fires. We just lost our house. Wait, wait, we didn't lose our house. Well, we were using the execute. Well, my parents did. My parents lost our house in the whole fire. Wait, yeah, what was that fight? I can't remember. Tell me.

Ashley 23:25

We have the only one that we can come to for we fought like here and there, like just weird fights.

Debra 23:31

And then we like shut up for a day. That's it.

Jennifer 23:33

Yeah, like when you need to go out with each other, you don't want to go and you ignore each other for the day, and then you go back to the house.

Debra 23:37

No, I'm like actually, actually, you know, like blower, a blower text message up. I'm like, okay, I love you. Mad anymore.

Ashley 23:46

I love you. And she's like, but we don't fight much.

Jennifer 23:48

You don't fight much.

Debra 23:49

It's weird. Yeah. Sometimes I think about that. I'm like, you know.

Jennifer 23:53

She told that you were on drugs.

Debra 23:55

So that was like that was you were young though.

Jennifer 23:57

How how long did you say mad at her for?

Ashley 23:59

Not very long, not very long. No, I was so young, and I got over it real quick, and then I you understood. Yeah.

Jennifer 24:06

Once you got on drugs, you could probably really see it though.

Debra 24:08

Yeah, but it's fun. We have some like fun and we're like, did you?

Ashley 24:11

Yeah. You had a good time. I was the youngest one there. Yeah, so it was like all um like truck drivers. I was like the only girl. My I worked for Singer Brothers in the mountains.

Jennifer 24:22

Oh, did you?

Ashley 24:23

They paid for it. Yeah, it was great. Shout out to Singer Brothers in my girlfriend.

Jennifer 24:28

Shout out to you and putting you in reality.

Debra 24:32

No, we're gonna call camp in our family. When he went to camp. Okay.

Ashley 24:36

Yeah, we're gonna be. I was in like 19, but then I got out.

Jennifer 24:42

Yeah, my parents were like the dog.

Ashley 24:48

Like golden child.

Jennifer 24:50

But we can't be when the when it needs to be said, you're gonna say it. Okay, so this really doesn't apply to you because we've just talked about this at a last. Who apologizes first after a fight? You guys had one.

Ashley 25:06

We probably just come together like being so terrible.

Jennifer 25:09

Yeah, yeah.

Ashley 25:10

There's no first.

Jennifer 25:11

And nobody really holds like a grudge. So it's not like uh I'm just waiting for you to acknowledge that no, you're gonna get nicer and then we're gonna move on.

Debra 25:18

It's it's weird because it's like I reminisce and like think about her hers and I my relationship. It's really unconditional. Yeah, it's it's crazy. And I think I learned.

Jennifer 25:30

Yeah, it's the best way to get into a fight, but you're like, I've got to talk to you today because something's happened and I need to I need to tell you, so we're gonna need to get over that. That wasn't that big, but like you move on because it's like the actual coming together and and being each other's support or whatever is really important than whatever you're fighting about.

Debra 25:48

Like, right. Well, I think because we hang hung out so much with um with Papa, with my dad and her grandpa, and we hung out with so and so much, he's like the most unconditional person ever. Is he? Yeah, oh he was, he was, and I think I think that like poured into us, like her and I because we were always with him.

Jennifer 26:05

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