The 8-Minute Rule: How One Call Can Save Your Sanity

Episode Title: The 8-Minute Rule: How One Call Can Save Your Sanity

Description:
Sometimes all it takes is eight minutes on the phone with your bestie to shift everything. The spiral stops. The anxiety calms. The tears turn into laughter.

In this episode of Slightly Unsupervised, Jennifer and Jackie dive into “The 8-Minute Rule” — a friendship lifeline for the women who just get it. They unpack how short, honest check-ins can regulate your emotions, rewire your brain, and remind you that you’re not alone. Because when life feels heavy, the right voice on the other end of the phone can pull you back to center faster than scrolling TikTok ever could.

From menopause meltdowns and emotional spirals to code words that signal “I need you now,” Jen and Jackie get real about why women need women, how friendship literally changes your chemistry, and why some conversations don’t need fixing — they just need feeling.

In This Episode:
📞 How the “8-Minute Rule” became their friendship code [01:00]
💬 Why women need emotional venting—not solutions [04:00]
🧠 The science of feeling better through connection [06:00]
🌸 How menopause magnifies emotions (and friendships save us) [08:00]
👯‍♀️ Why best friends are emotional mirrors—not judges [13:00]
❤️ The healing power of being truly seen, heard, and loved [18:00]

🎙️ Bonus Segment: Rapid-Fire Bestie Questions — “Who Sends the 8-Minute Text First?”
🎶 Closing Song: Definition of a Best Friend by Brooke August & Hannah Rose
▶️ Follow Brooke on YouTube: @brookeaugust

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Transcript

Jennifer 0:00

Hey there, I'm Jennifer, and I'm Jackie. And welcome to Slightly Unsupervised, to our best friends, business partners, and the chaos behind bestimony, a ceremony we created to celebrate the kind of soulmates who don't come with a marriage license.

Jackie 0:11

This podcast is all about that friendship energy, the deep stuff, the messy stuff, and the laugh till you snort stuff. So whether you're driving, folding laundry, or hiding in your car for some peace and quiet, you're you're in good company. Let's get slightly unsupervised. Alright, today's episode. Sometimes it all takes all it takes is eight minutes on the phone with your bestie to shift shift everything. The spiral stops, the anxiety calms, the tears turn into laughter. In this episode of Slightly Unsupervised, Jen and I will dive into the eight-minute rule: why short, honest check-ins with your best friend can regulate your emotions, rewire your brain, and remind you you're not alone. Because when life feels heavy, the right voice on the other end of the phone can pull you back to center in less time than it takes to scroll TikTok. Absolutely.

Jennifer 0:54

I think we've kind of been throwing this back and forth to each other. I know I just sent you a meme or a little video the other day about this at, you know, eight seconds, eight minutes, I'm sorry, can really kind of pull you out of a funk by just talking to your best friend. It's kind of like um a way to let somebody know that you're there for them and they have some moments to talk to you and that you can sort of feel like getting grounded again in yourself that you know, I think we all have oh yeah, definitely what it just happened to me not not too long ago.

Jackie 1:30

Yeah. I needed to I just needed to hear you on the other phone side. I know. Yeah, definitely helped.

Jennifer 1:36

Yeah, Jack had a little thing the other day and she was a little upset or whatever. She called me. You know, I didn't know that she needed that. And I think what we just established, which I think is a great idea, is that um if either one of us needs each other, we're gonna now text each other. You got eight minutes or eight minutes. It's the sign to each other that if we get a text that way, that what you need is somebody to just be there for you for a little bit, that it's an it's a nice way for us to know what the other one needs without having this big explanation via text, right? Like eight minutes, you got eight minutes that that can help somebody really like find their grounding. And it also really just allows, I think, that this idea that we just text that to each other. It's not something that we need to talk about. Like, I know what you need now. Like you need me to be there. Because you could just text me, like, hey, how's it going? And in this video that we send each other the other day or that I just sent you was like, he's like, she's like, I I needed you. And he's like, it was a guy and a girl. And she's like, I sent you something. He goes, No, what you sent me was like, Hey, how are you? Do you want to have, do you have time for dinner this week or something like that? And he goes, none of that said anything to me that signaled to me right now. You need to talk to me. So he's like, they have a new rule, and this is where Jack and I came up with it too, is like, just type eight minutes. That's I know what you need. Like, if you type that to me, I'm gonna get where I can. And sometimes I'm you know, in the middle of a wedding or something, or something's happening, and I can't talk to you right then. And I know, I know mentally what I'm gonna prepare to do to talk to you. I know where you're at mentally, which is great. And also it gives you a it also knows me the urgency of the conversation, right? Like if you're just texting me, call me when you can, and it's not the eight minute now. I know what you're not, it's not an emotional thing that you need for me right now. Like you, I can finish what I'm doing and I'll get to you. You know, like courtesy, right? So I think the eight-minute thing is a it's a great tool to use for somebody. And as long as the other person knows what that means to that, that they can be like, okay, let me get even like let's say you take me an eight minutes jacket and I'm driving and I've got 10 people in the car with me. I can't call you back right then, right? It's like I'm gonna have to wait because I know what she needs, and what she needs right now is not a fun convers. Not a not that it's a not a fun conversation, but she needs my emotional support right now. So I'm not gonna call you on my speaker phone and be like, hey, how's it going? I have 10 people in the car.

Jackie 4:01

See, it's this is even making me emotional now because it did it's important.

Jennifer 4:05

Because it's it's important. It's important for somebody to have somebody that is their emotional safety net, right? The somebody that can walk you off a ledge or talk to you or ground you into because sometimes, and I think uh it happens, it happens to me too, is that we can blow a night, we can blow a problem up so big in our head, right? By just stewing on it. We could stew on something, we could stew on something. Maybe we go to our husbands and they're like, you know, men are men are great for here's the problem, solve it. That's the that's your solution, that's the sun one time. Like you solve that, that's what I told you to do, and that's the problem. And it's like women are different. We're based on emotions. We want to talk about it, we want to dance around it, we want to have some perspective, we want to feel bad, then we want to feel good, then we want to go back to bad, then we want to go to good. So, women, I'm always gonna be the one that's the first to say this. Women need women because we are emotional creatures that can't just you can't just say solve it this way and then walk away from us, like, right? I mean, that's why girls need each other, I think, because we can need to vent sometimes, and sometimes it's venting. How many times, Jack, have we have we'll bring up an old problem that we've had 30 years ago, 40 years ago, whatever, and we drag it back out of the closet and we've talked about it 5,000 times, and we drag it back out of the closet and we go, we talk about it again. And it's for some people it'd be so annoying. For men, it would be men would be very annoying because we've already talked about that, like we've solved that. And it's like, no, no, no, no. We have not solved it. We have solved it, but it's it's one of those lingering issues in our lives, and we still talk about it because it helps us to talk about it, right? I mean, can you think about something like that? Like, I don't know, an old situation that happened and we're like, we still talk about it, right? It's not like anything bad, it's just us processing still, right? Right. Don't you think girls are a different creature? Like if Rick has a problem, he just like looking for an answer and you're like, okay, let's move on. And Jack has a problem, we've got to find a solution. But we also have to like address the emotional part of it, right?

Jackie 6:09

So that's part of the I just want to get more emotional. Yeah. And that's that's I think and the things that sometimes the men like, you know, with going through the women's stuff, like we're all starting to go to the menopause. I've been going through it for a while, but the you just cry about things that they look at you like, why are you crying? Why, why is this such a big deal to you? And it's like, oh, I need to talk to my girlfriend because my girlfriend knows why this is such a big deal. Right. Where just men don't see it. They're like, just get over it. You know, that's how I feel at times. And a lot actually, most of the men I know are like that.

Jennifer 6:42

No, they're all that way. They just solve it and be done with it. We don't need to talk about that anymore. That's a problem that can go away right now. So um, that's why girls are for women, women need women just for if you just if I had to just solve all my problems with one solution all the time, man, I would go back shit crazy. Like, I need to look at it from every angle. What's your ideas? What do you think about this? How do you how would you approach this? Because we would all do it differently. So sometimes you take a even you ask more than one friend, right? You got a problem? Like, hey, what do you think about that? How would you deal with that if you were me? Kind of. I do that. Sometimes I'm like, you're me. Yeah.

Jackie 7:19

Mm-hmm. Especially when I'm with all of you. Like, you know, I just was with Michelle camping, certain things I talked about, which I've talked to you about. You know what I mean?

Jennifer 7:27

Yeah.

Jackie 7:28

So yeah, I definitely know how that is.

Jennifer 7:30

She has a different perspective. Oh, it comes from a different chill, Michelle's chill. Everything's chill. Chill. And she'll, you know. I think she would be more apt to just like let it go and move on because that's that's kind of her she doesn't hold on to anything really. You hold on to something.

Jackie 7:48

I wish I could be like that. I know, right? So nice to And now I've at least I can use it. I always use the excuse. It's menopause. It's menopause. I know, right? Which is true. Which is true. There is some things that you can blame that on. But can't be your excuse for everything.

Jennifer 8:09

No. But menopause does change you because you lose your ability. You lose some of your um estrogen. So you're not as easily like pacified by just taking it over and over again. I think when you have a lot of estrogen in your body, you're like, oh, it's okay, we'll do it. Move on and and you abandon yourself a lot. Uh motherhood abandoned, you abandon yourself in motherhood. You abandon yourself in marriage. You abandon yourself in a lot of ways, women do, and it's it's true, we do. You can get yourself so abandoned that at some point you lose the ability to let that float off to orbit because you've been able to do it for so many years. And at some point, maybe it's menopause, maybe it's losing the estrogen. We're just like, no, no, that's now a problem. Like, I can't do that anymore. I've abandoned myself too many times that I'm not doing that anymore. So I think that can happen too, that our view changes. And we kind of grew up in a weird situation, we're in a group, we're in a weird situation right now because we're maybe the first generation of women, at least I know about, that are talking about menopause. Like we're talking about it to say these are the things we're going through. Because we don't I feel like we got into this menopause thing and there are no we don't have any reference to it. Nobody's gone through it before us that told us anything about it. Like our pa our mothers.

Jackie 9:26

No, my mom never talked about it.

Jennifer 9:29

Yeah. Yeah. My mom, my mom, my grandmother, my aunt all had hysterectomies. They sort of went past it. And so we're like getting slapped in the face with it because we're all going through menopause. And it's like, well, what'd your mom do? Does anybody have any stories from their mothers about how this goes? Nobody. I think we're just looking at each other, going, what's going on with us? Don't you think?

Jackie 9:52

Yep, definitely. I don't. I'm trying to think if I even think my mom did, because she's kind of like kind of like the male version. Like if you try to bring up a problem to her, I think I've mentioned this before. It's just like, get over it. It's just get over it. I'm like, how can you say that? No, I tried to get over this. It's why I'm calling you. No, I can't call you anymore. Right. Because you're not gonna let like talk to me nicely. It's like it turns into like this. Like, I remember she had had when she got Bell's palsy. I called and I was like, you know, worried about her. Like, do I need to come out? And I started to get upset. And she's like, Oh my God, why are you crying about this? It's fine. Mom, I'm worried about you. I care about you.

Jennifer 10:27

Right. Right. Like Bell's palsy has been in my world on that. I mean, I'm are you okay? Do I need to be there?

Jackie 10:32

I mean, all of a sudden it became in our world in the last five years.

Jennifer 10:36

We've had how many people we now have three or four people. Thank God that was it. Because we thought he had a stroke. So that was amazing that it was just bell palsy for sure. And I saw it on.

Jackie 10:47

And that was from being around other people. Yeah. We had it.

Jennifer 10:50

Yeah. So, anyways, menopause thing is a whole new world. And uh, wow, how fun. Not only do we get to give through changes of, you know, 16 years old. 14 life changes. Here's a new one. We never get to just stay on task. We have to be all over the place. So it's crazy. You know, I think emotionally back to our eight-minute rule that emotionally that for us girls, we need to give ourselves permission to vent, cry, or talk to somebody without turning it into a full-on meltdown, or even if you're in a full-on meltdown, just to have somebody walk you off the ledge and be like, Yeah, I can see that. I mean, for me, I'm always like, is there anything I can add to this that will help you? And sometimes I don't have solutions for it. Just, you know, sometimes for you, just to maybe hear or me for need to hear for you, because you and I have parallel lives a little bit, is like, I've gone through that. I know what you're talking about, right? I mean, that's part of it.

Jackie 11:42

I think you're when I talk to you, yeah, and you know how to deal with me from knowing me for so long, too. So you know, just talk like softly, nicely, just you're soothing me. It's okay. We can get through this. And then usually by the time we're done, we are laughing and everything's fine and love you. Thank you. Bye. Right. Right. Because we do have busy life, so it's not like we can talk for hours and on end on anything. So like this eight-minute rule was great. I think it's wonderful. I think everybody should use it.

Jennifer 12:11

Yeah. I think you should, if you haven't heard about it, and we invite you to Google it on the eight-minute psychology rule for friends to talk to friends that and if you don't, you know, you find them all over the internet. But uh, I know the one I sent you was probably off of Instagram or TikTok, I can't remember which one it was, that it was like, here's this guy talking about it, and they established this eight-minute rule. So, you know, maybe have a conversation. If you have a friend that's pretty highly needs you emotionally, and you want to talk, and you they need you need a code word. Eight minutes is a great code text that says, I'm in a I need you right now. Like, and you know what it means, not trying to guess, not trying to read through a text that could be any of those things. Mm-hmm. Because I know friends can be upset with friends, like, I need you. Like this girl said, I need you. And he's like, I I had no indication that you needed me, right? That's why he came up with this eight-minute thing because he's like, Yeah, it's just a normal text that says these things. Like, I'm not on heightened alert at all that you need me for anything. So they came up with this eight-minute thing so that they could she could say it. It also doesn't make you feel like you have to explain it all to start. Like, da-da-da, this happened, da-da-da-da. It's just like call me because I need you, I need you right now. So I think it's a beautiful thing. I think um, if you can do a study on it and then maybe go around and uh send it to your best friend, find a couple of memes on it, or even just the articles about it, be like, I think we should just have a code where it's that's what it was, wasn't it? Like a code, a safe word or a code or something that just says this is what means. Like, call me right now, right? So I'm spiraling and I need someone to land me on the ground against. Um, and yeah, I mean, besties are mirrors. We can definitely help you see. Sometimes it's not always just agreeing with you, right, Jack. Sometimes it's like, can you see it from this perspective, this side of it? That's maybe why I think they're saying that, because they're maybe feeling this way and just to help you kind of because I think you especially, Jack, can get in your head, don't you think? Oh, yeah, definitely.

Jackie 14:15

That's why yesterday all I did was watch Law and Order. Because I just had to think about who did it. I know. You know it's funny, it's marks of my head. I needed a day to just like unwind and do nothing. And I watched a lot, and I've never sit and watch, like, if my husband went across it, I'd be like, Oh goodness, I have to watch this. I'm gonna go watch it on the TV. But I was literally like, okay, I can get into this. Like it's not, and you and it's not like the housewives that are all fighting that all of a sudden you're like, oh right, great, what a you know, I can write with them. And then it brings up something of your own thing. Those things aren't happening in my life. What's happening on uh the the law, whatever the things are in order. There's no parallel order. There's no, yeah. So I'm like, okay, all right. So that was my day to kind of get back back into life and take uh just a resting day. Yeah, mostly I had you to talk to and it definitely is.

Jennifer 15:12

I do Gray's Anatomy. I'm on this, I just watched 21 episodes, no, 21 seasons, and now I'm back to season two. I'm watching it again because I hardly pay attention to it. It's really, I think for me, TV is kind of like a background noise.

Jackie 15:25

Background noise. I have that too.

Jennifer 15:27

And I could look up and I could be like, what's happened here? You know what I mean? So, like some people are together and you're like, who when did that happen? They were just dating that other guy. Now she's with that. Like, happens to be all the time, but I'm literally watching it again, and I just watched it. I know it takes a long time to watch it, but it wasn't that long ago. And there are storylines I have not seen. I need to put that on my list. You know what is funny? Because my girlfriend told me about this, and it's true. She said that she watches Gray's Anatomy over and over again. She's because there's a lot series, you know, it's it's a very long series and it's still going. But she said that she watches it because for her, she's so anxious and she gets so like emotionally charged up about things that it soothes her. So she just she just continuously watches the same thing over and over again. And when it ends, she starts it again and does it again. So I'm like, that kind of makes sense to me. Like, you don't have to anticipate what's going on because I already know what's coming for her. It's the same. Like she doesn't worry about it. She knows that McDreamy's getting ready to die at this episode. Like, I knew McDreamy was gonna die. I don't know if you've ever watched Gray's Anatomy, but McDreamy was Patrick Dempsey. He dies, and you know it's coming. I know the episode when he's just about ready to die. I don't want to see McDreamy die because I liked McDreamy. And so I'm like, I'm gonna skip forward to the next ep, the next state. I missed those. I didn't re-watch him because I knew he was gonna die. And I was like, I don't want to see him die. So I just moved on to the next episode when Meredith Gray gets back into our life and she moves on. And it's like I skipped some of the little things that I don't want to see. Like I didn't want to see McDreamy die. So I'm like, I'm not watching that part. But I think there's something important about that.

Jackie 17:03

But blonde order, I don't get into any of the people where they have their issues because yeah, they're usually dead when they get there. So you just get the backstory. So I don't get that much into it. Like I don't have to fast forward through uh McDreamy.

Jennifer 17:18

But she's right about it. It does soothe your it does soothe your anxiousness by watching the same series over and over again because you already know it's coming. Like you don't have you don't have any new things to worry about. So I think that, you know, I think it's true. So these are just some things that we wanted to share and get through. Um, Jackie and I are big fans of this eight-minute thing that if you can figure out how to incorporate that into your friendship um and have somebody that you that you feel safe sending your eight-minute thing to that's gonna be emotionally um there for you. And like Jackie's.

Jackie 17:52

Yeah, no, it takes both sides. Like, I'm sure there's there's gonna be a time you're gonna do it too. It's obviously gonna be me more often. We know that.

Jennifer 18:00

Well, it could be, but it might not be. I mean, I'd like to be able to use the eight-minute with you too, be like, Oh no, I know. Yeah, yeah. But I mean, you gotta have somebody that can understand you emotionally. Jackie and I, I just want to touch base on this because we have a similar background. We've said it before. We kind of raised each other. We were those children in that era that were kind of left to our own devices. We haven't shied about saying that. That's the truth. That we do not, we were we were not raised by parents. We were raised by a generation. When you say that's true, that we just were left to our own to figure out what we had to do, what we not had to do. So for us, it's very natural to go back to our friends because, especially for me, I will say this 100%. For me, they were the ones that got me through my childhood. I will always go to my friends because it's my safe space. It's where I have always found the most support and the most love. And I don't judgment any qualms about it because when you tell me something, not only I'm taking how you feel today, I'm going back to a history of life with you to the root of the issue, which could be your childhood, which could be the way that you were addressed or the way you left you dealt with your life then, and how you moved that forward and how we have to go back and rewrite some of that. We have learned to abandon ourselves too much in the way we were raised, to table our problems too much, or to say we have to we now have to look at it a little differently because we weren't right, we weren't we weren't supported enough as children. Wouldn't you say that? Like that's part of our problem.

Jackie 19:47

Mm-hmm. Definitely. Yes. I don't remember if I was having a problem with friends or something emotional, a boy problem. I never ever went to my mother because I know she wouldn't really listen to me. It'd be just like, you know what I mean? So yeah, it's it's different. Yeah. It's definitely we would go to each other, right? And I mean And back then we were like, that's when phone bills had long, long distance, long distance. So if our friends were like just 10 miles away, we we would have sit on the phone for an hour and it was like, oh crap, I'm gonna get in trouble when the phone bill comes in.

Jennifer 20:24

Not only did we have to solve our own problems, we couldn't even ask our friends because we have to pay for that.

Jackie 20:30

Yeah. When you were gone for a little while too, down the beach at your dad. So I was like, shoot. It'd be like, call me, okay, I'm gonna call you back. Okay, we'll call you back. And then we were stupid because your first minute is the was the most expensive. And so you're starting it over again. Back and forth.

Jennifer 20:46

Like, ooh, you're gonna talk five minutes, then get off the phone, you gotta call me back five minutes. Like, and then we're like, cut the problem off because we can't deal with it right now. Can you just come see me? That's probably why we spent so much time together as children in our generation, because it was the cheapest way to see it was the cheapest way to communicate with each other was just to be in each other's presence. Because you're right, the phone bill was a big deal. Cost money. It costs money. That's why our friends that live. We lived, unfortunately, we lived in a place that there was another area that our friends could live in that area. We could not talk to them. It was long distance, right?

Jackie 21:22

75309.

Jennifer 21:25

Yeah, the numbers on that, that that place was eight six seven. And if you had to call that, that was long distance. So you had to get because we were you had to get your conversation done pretty quick.

Jackie 21:35

3337 in the mountains with your friends and then the uh it was three three six. Those three we could talk.

Jennifer 21:44

Eight six seven was the one that was long distance. Long distance, yeah. So that's why we didn't talk to Chris and Jen that much. They were in the wrong they were in the wrong phone section. So anyways, that's what we're saying that you know, use your eight minutes, try to incorporate it if you can, send this, just send this. Podcast to your friends, say, hey, listen to this. This is a good idea. I think this is something that we can do. So anyways, okay, let's move on to bestie rapid questions. Jackie, who's more likely to make the eight-minute call? More likely to make the eight-minute call? Probably like the first one.

Jackie 22:16

To make the call?

Jennifer 22:17

Well, probably likely.

Jackie 22:19

Yeah, you'll probably call. I'll make the text.

Jennifer 22:22

Yeah. You'll call. You'll text me and I'll make the eight-minute call, probably.

Jackie 22:25

More so thanks. It's also because I never know if you're busy. I mean, I have your schedule on my computer, of course, but sometimes I don't know what to do. Are you doing the wedding? Is someone else doing the wedding? I'm kind of getting it now. I know. I know. That's true.

Jennifer 22:38

Now you've got the grandbaby. I know. Now you've got the grand babies. My whole new world is a new thing. So, anyways, probably I'm more likely to make the eight-minute call back to you that you probably need me a little more than I need you, but that could change at any time. Stand on, but you're on standby, girl.

Jackie 22:55

Yeah. So who always turns eight minutes into 45? Me. I think we both.

Jennifer 23:00

I think we both get. You think so? Oh, by the way, you're on the phone. So let's talk about, you know what I mean? Like, I'd probably let you talk and then bring my own stuff into it. Be like, let's catch up on this other stuff too. And we have our business together. We have podcasting. You may have my business that we talk about. Then we have podcasting. So we have more than most to talk about. So okay. Who's the first what's the first thing the best usually says when you call crying? Are you okay? Yeah, what's wrong? What's wrong? That's probably me. What's wrong? What's going on? What what happened? What happened? I can just tell by even the slight second it takes you to say something to me, like, hey, hey, I know you're okay. If it's like, hey, like the tone, the way you say it, how you're feeling I immediately know something's wrong. Like immediately. I'm like, what's wrong? Like, let's talk about immediately. Like, we don't need to dance around it for hours. I already know something's wrong. So that's probably when you say that. I'm like, what's what's going on? What's that what's happened? So, anyways, um, go ahead.

Jackie 23:55

Who's more likely to hang up mid-laugh cry? Both of us probably say so.

Jennifer 24:01

Let's say that's I think we both we both usually just like get to the end of it, we're crying. Okay. Which one is uh which one of these actually keeps the timer honest? We don't have timers. Come on now. There's no timer. The only thing I would probably say is I have to go now, I gotta go to a wedding. Or I've got to call. But there's no timers. I mean, friends, do friends keep timers? No. Eight minutes can be two hours. Don't don't be so strict on the eight minute. The eight minute means I need to talk to you.

Jackie 24:28

So beyond using a timer. I had to use a timer on my phone yesterday and I didn't even know how to do it. I had to figure it out. Because my husband, I was cooking something and I was using the timer on the microwave. And he's he says, Okay, how do I start the microwave when it's on the timer? Because you can use the microwave even though it's on a timer. And then I forget how to do it. So then I'm like, oh, just forget it. I'll I'll do it on my phone. Go ahead and exit out. So we're not too savvy on some of the stuff. This house has newer stuff than we're used to. Yes. Everything's new here at this house. So it's like I had to do that. And then I'm all, which one is the? Oh, it's the clock one. That's right.

Jennifer 25:07

Well, you know what's weird is I used the microphone yesterday. No, the micro microwave yesterday for like I accidentally put in like a minute and a half and I only needed it for like a minute. And then I pulled the thing out and it had 30 seconds left. And then I wanted to make popcorn. So I was like trying to clear it. I couldn't figure out how to clear it. So I closed the microwave and let it finish its 30 seconds. And then I opened the door and put it in and put my popcorn in. I'm like, how silly is it that I cannot clear my microwave, but I don't have the time. It would take me more time to go get my glasses to come back to study it than just say finish your cycle. And then I'll start it. So I get it. That was me, SJ.

Jackie 25:41

Yeah. I was like, I just need to get, I just need to go finish, get back to my show and let my food get done. And there's a real problem on law or a law order problem here, and someone's murdered somebody. I don't have time for this. I forgot to put it on pause, so I need to hurry up. It's so true, though. These are things going through my head. I'm like one of those people that are always thinking too much. Everything's going through my head. It's a weird stuff. You can't switch gears very fast, right?

Jennifer 26:07

No.

Jackie 26:08

All right, you're enough. You're next, Jack. What's the next one? Uh, what's the funniest emergency you've ever called each other about?

Jennifer 26:14

That'll probably work stuff. I would think it's probably work stuff. Like Jack will call me sometimes and like she's like, Oh my god, these people called about this or something like that, or like, is this some emergency? Oh, like when you're on vacation. When I'm on vacation or something, I'm like, no, I wouldn't even worry about that. Just forget that. That's not a big deal, or you know, whatever. I think um you think it's more of a big deal. I'm like, I don't want to worry about it. Like, let it go, whatever. So that's what I always say.

Jackie 26:37

That's true.

Jennifer 26:38

Yeah. All right. Who gives the faster pep talk? Probably me.

Jackie 26:42

You. You. You're good at that. You're good at that.

Jennifer 26:46

I'll let Jack talk for a little bit and then I'll give her a okay. We can do this. This is what we're gonna do, and you know, I think so too. So you probably like it.

Jackie 26:54

You're right. You have the right to feel that way. That's that's okay. You do use that. I love that one. See, I knew it. It's like my husband being in the other room. See what she said. I know what you said, but this is the truth.

Jennifer 27:06

So freaking true. I'm like, you know what, Jackie? You're right about that.

Jackie 27:09

Literally just happened the other day. Husband's like, you guys talk. This is why I need to talk to her.

Jennifer 27:17

She knows. I was right. So true. Like I said, I'm really good at a high person. If you need a high person, call me, man. I will build your ass up. Like, you got this. You go. So that's funny. All right. Who's the most healing?

Jackie 27:33

Oh, go ahead. What's the most healing thing your bestie has ever said to you? Well, I guess I just said that kind of that's kind of stuff you say to me. It's okay. You're right. You always tell me I'm right, even if I'm wrong. Maybe later you'll tell me I wasn't. But in that moment, you do. Which is that's a good friend. Because there's me who gets lost where I'm all. Oh, what'd you say? Wait, there's a spider web. Jackie does.

Jennifer 27:58

She moves off into her own world. And I'm like, yeah. Now you are so right.

Jackie 28:04

Even if you're all land it, Jackie, land it. What is the problem?

Jennifer 28:09

But you still do it in a nice voice. I know. I'm like, let's get back to the problem here. Focus. What did what happened? Jackie's over in left field. I'm like, no, no, no, come back. We're gonna solve this. But yeah.

Jackie 28:20

All of you have friends like this. Because I mean, I feel so lucky when we're doing this. I know, right? That you have that, you know.

Jennifer 28:27

And I do too. You know, I know that that's true too. That, you know, when you call somebody and you're like, I need you, you're my person. I need you to tell me something good about myself too, right? Like, keep me in the focus of this and how I'm feeling. And uh, I think that's what your best friend does. Because your best friend also knows what you're thinking behind the scenes, right? She's the person that's like, you can honestly have a conversation with or really honestly have a conversation about whatever it is. And and she she's digesting that with you. So when you're telling me something, I'm not just talking about this point, I'm talking about history of it, right? Or whatever's happened in your life.

Jackie 29:03

It's like I know you were going through some stuff last week and you were just texting it because you're in the middle of it all, right? And I sent you, hey, if you need me to take the calls, you need me to do something, you let me know. Yeah.

Jennifer 29:14

I was and that's 100% had no problem.

Jackie 29:18

I was like, I will just dump everything else I'm doing right now and do it so she's not worried about it, and she can go focus on what's going on over there.

Jennifer 29:24

Yes. So I had a grandchild last week, and there were some issues with the birth of it and my daughter-in-law and emergency stuff that happened. And Jackie was what a blessing to have, because I have a business, so I'm constantly doing that, and it never ends, right? It goes on and on. No, she's twenty and yeah. But Jackie covers my stuff when I'm on vacation, so she knows how to do it. She's the only person I trust. And so you know, in the middle of that, she's like, Hey, if you need me, please forward your phones to me. I can handle this for you right now, which is such a blessing, Jack. Thank you.

Jackie 29:55

You're welcome. Well, I know you were I know you were worried about it, but you're, you know, you were right there in the middle of it. It's not like you could call me. I know. Couldn't do the eight-minute text because I couldn't call you back. So I know. I didn't have eight minutes to roll.

unknown 30:09

No.

Jennifer 30:12

That's a blessing too. Yeah, but that's such a blessing too. Like you should have friends like that. So I hope you all do. You know, that's the way it is. So okay. Who's more likely to call instead of text when things go wrong? Me. I know when you're texting me. I know when you're texting what you're saying to me. I just know. And I'm like, oh, we gotta get you on the phone.

Jackie 30:30

Or you get on the phone too, but or I'll call you like three times and then you're like, okay, something's wrong. Right. So then you go and call me from wherever you're at. Yeah.

Jennifer 30:39

So that used to be our old method, right? We're starting to get the old one. Eight minutes. I need you. So we don't have to go through the phone call after phone call after phone call, then I know that you're something's wrong. Okay, go ahead, Jack.

Jackie 30:50

One word that describes how your bestie grounds you. I think you're just honest and caring it in. Yeah. Like I know I know you're there for me. I know you're not gonna s judge me or and I don't think I'm draining you. I hope not. Like when I do call on my things. But I just think we just like you said, we've known each we brought each other up. So you know how to bring me back to where I need to be.

Jennifer 31:14

Right. And I think without having to take medication or something.

unknown 31:19

Something else.

Jennifer 31:22

Some way to get that problem solved in my head. But um we we did we did raise each other, but we didn't have this support system. And I think we do a really good job, and I'm proud of us for being each other's support system because we both know how that feels not to be supported in that way. And so I think we both try our best to give each other that sort of all-encompassing thing that maybe we just missed out on, we didn't get. So we do that for each other, and uh what a blessing for that. So thank you, Jackie, for being my best friend. Because I need you. I need you too. If this episode hit you in the feels or made you laugh way too hard, we consider that a win.

Jackie 32:02

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Song 32:27

We stick together ride or die to the moon, and no amount of space could ever come between us two. The reuniting's like we never been apart, and every single time we're out of iron heart to heart. There's not enough words to describe what you all made a make. To put it up to dance and like you stayed right next to me. I've bada. Definition of the best friend. It's good. It's good. We're right in a story, every day we'll keep on your loyalty.