Slightly Unsupervised

Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus: Why We’re So Different (and Why We Still Need Each Other)

Jennifer Hobbs & Jackie Schroeder Season 1 Episode 24

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Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus: Why We’re So Different (and Why We Still Need Each Other) 

Description:
Ever wondered why your husband goes silent when you cry—or why your bestie just gets it without you explaining a word? In this episode of Slightly Unsupervised, Jennifer and Jackie dive deep into the cosmic clash between Mars and Venus: how men solve, how women feel, and why both are equally maddening (and magical). 

They unpack everything from communication breakdowns to emotional needs, plus one unforgettable truth bomb: “Men give love for sex. Women give sex for love.” (Yeah, they went there.) 

With laughs, a few side-eyes at their husbands, and a lot of real talk, the girls remind us that female friendships aren’t competition—they’re the emotional translators keeping relationships alive. 

Because sometimes, your husband can’t hear you… but your bestie always can. 💫 

In This Episode:
🚀 The Mars/Venus rulebook for communication [02:00]
💋 The love-for-sex truth nobody wants to admit [07:30]
😂 Why men “fix” and women “feel” (and how to survive both) [10:00]
💞 Why female friendships make marriages stronger [18:00]
🔥 Bestie Rapid Fire: The Men vs. Women Edition [20:00] 

🎙️ Hosted by Jennifer & Jackie
💍 Presented by Bestiemony™ — Because not all soulmates come with a marriage license.
✨ Part of the Chickology™ Podcast Collective 

🎵 Closing Song: Definition of a Best Friend by Brooke August & Hannah Rose
Follow Brooke on YouTube: @brookeaugust
 

Listen, laugh, and tag your bestie (and maybe your husband). 

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Jackie

Hey there, I'm Jennifer. And I'm Jackie.

Jennifer

And welcome to Slightly Unsupervised, where best friends, business partners, and the chaos behind Vestimony, a ceremony we created to celebrate the kind of soulmates who don't come with a marriage license.

Jackie

This podcast is all about that friendship energy, the deep stuff, the messy stuff, and the laugh till you snort stuff. So whether you're driving, folding laundry, or hiding in your car for some peace and quiet, you're in good company. Let's get slightly unsupervised. Today, men are from Mars, women are from Venus, why we're so different, and why we still need each other. In this episode of Slightly Unsupervised, Jennifer and I will unpack the cosmic differences between men and women, from communication styles to emotional needs. They explore why women process life through connection, why men pull back when stressed, and how understanding these differences can actually bring us closer. Plus, they break down why female friendships are essential to bringing to bridging the gap, because sometimes only another woman can speak your language. So true.

Jennifer

Men are from Mars and Women A From Venus is a really good book if you haven't read it. Definitely helps you understand your not only your spouse, but also how women are so just completely different in the way that what we need versus the men. And I know that anybody's ever been to couples therapy, this is one of them books you get to read. Because it does it does explain to you and lets you understand that we are not all the same. We process it differently and it's very gender specific. Not everybody follows suit. Certainly isn't, you know, 100% true for everything, but for the most part, you do get into it. You can see that there are really that we just process things differently. That your husband is giving you a solution to a problem. We've talked about this probably in one of the last few ones we've done, Jackie, where uh your husband gives you an answer to something like solve that. Here's the problem, solve it. And you're like, I'm gonna call it tears.

Jackie

I'm in tears. He doesn't understand. And he's like, I do understand why you can't you fix this. Yes. I can't. I need you to help me, but not fix it. Just listen to me. Right.

Jennifer

And that is why I get the call. And so it's true. It's so true. It's like he and it's not his fault. That's how he's programmed. Right. This is the problem. That's how you solve it. There's nothing you can do, so let it go. And it's like Jackie's like, and this limbo land about it. So she'll call me. And it's really has nothing to do with anything. It has to do with how we process. So for me, I can listen to it and I can be like empathetic because one, I understand it. Two, is that I'm a girl and I know that we have to process. We cannot get a one solution answer from our husbands and move on in our lives like it just solves, you know, world's problems, which it doesn't. For us, we have to process it. So it can be definitely really important to have girlfriends because this is a part of our existence that you can't.

Jackie

I've heard about this like 20 times. Exactly. He goes, he goes to his man cave. Okay, I'm done. You figure it out. Call Jen. Call Michelle. Call us. Call Jen. Call somebody.

Jennifer

Right? But he passes the baton to us, like, here, you guys handle it now. I've heard, I've done what I can with her.

Jackie

He puts on his YouTube guys channel. So he can't hear me talking to you either.

SPEAKER_02

He's listening to card parts.

Jennifer

Oh my god, if we had to go in there and listen to card parts all day long, I would literally like end my life. I'd be like, this is not, I cannot listen to this anymore. So that is part of the real difference, is that it is so essential to understand that we are different creatures. Maybe guys, I wonder, I mean, this is a good question really to think about is like, do they need each other to really what happens when a guy has a problem? Like we only talk about us girls because we all only care about us girls.

Jackie

But oh, we only know us. We don't know them all either. But they go what do they say? They say men seek solutions and women seek connection. So like men seek what? Solutions, yes, and women seek connection. So a man doesn't need to call his guy friend to get that connection to feel better. I don't see Rick calling like, you know, one of his friends and Mike, you know, our one she can't.

Jennifer

He wouldn't if he had a car problem.

Jackie

He'd probably be like, Yeah, he call he called your husband.

Jennifer

Yeah, like if there was a thing that needed to be fixed and he needed to know how to fix it, he would call. He'd be like, That's true, hey, I uh the water heater's not working. What do I do? Like, you know, Rob's like, hey, flush the thing out, man, until you can start there. And we're like, my god, that's so boring.

Jackie

I need a phone number to call the person that does this so it's done right. Plumber, electrician, what do I need for what are we doing right now?

Jennifer

Jackie calls back, she's like, would you recommend a plumber for that kind of job?

SPEAKER_02

Like, what are we doing here? That's probably not gonna go so well over here.

Jennifer

So I think um, you know, it's we yeah, we would seek a connection. Like, we don't, I don't know. Maybe we're different in girls' world, but I don't think so because I have a lot of friends. But we seek just somebody to understand our thoughts, right?

Jackie

Like can we want we want we want our girlfriends that will tell us that we're right. That's right.

Jennifer

That's right.

Jackie

For feeling that way, yes. Yes, to make us feel that you should feel that way, exactly. And they're not gonna say that. They're like, why are you surprised? You knew that's what was gonna happen. I don't know why I was hoping it would be different this time. I know. I want a new outcome. I just hope like it's this long. Can I get a different kind of outcome? Just surprise me. Right, right. And I'm like instead, I get emotional and I need to talk to someone.

Jennifer

Right. And that's you know, we talked about that in another episode, is like why husbands should celebrate the besties and in your in any case, really. But it's like they take a lot of heat off of that relationship too, because we can divert the energy back to, you know, someplace that is not just directly on him because you can't go to your husband, you go to your husband for the solution if you want to listen to the one solution he has. Like maybe there's two solutions. So okay, if you don't want to do it that way, then do it that way. But I'm not gonna give you any more solutions and I don't want to hear about it because you've said it a hundred times, I don't care. And that's that's the problem is that women have to process and men have to solve, and the two can collide. There is a, you know, men fix it, women feel it, and it can be very interesting on how we process this. I had this guy I worked with, I wanted to bring this up because it's the greatest line. And he told it to me when I was like 20 years old. Maybe I was 23, 24, I don't remember what it was. But I worked with him and he was a he was a guy, so of course he just had solutions to everything, not necessarily wanted to talk about it, but um, I think dating or something. He goes, Let him give you some advice. And I'm like, All right. He's like, he's like listening closely. I'm like, okay, what is it? He goes, Men give love for sex. Like, okay, and he goes, Women give sex for love. And I was like, Oh. And he's like, chew on that a while.

SPEAKER_02

And I'm like, Yeah.

Jennifer

And then you think about it, you're like, Men give love, men give love to get sex, right? And then women will give sex to get love. Like, we want different things, and ultimately the other one does whatever the other side needs to get what they want, but they're not the same things. They're not, they're not attached to the same, the same thing. Like, men just want to have sex and women just want to be loved, and each crisscrosses into the other world for a moment to give each other that so that they get what they want, right? So it was it was an interesting conversation, and I appreciate it. It's followed me all my life. Like, he's so freaking right. If you just think about it, he is so freaking right. Guys will be like, Yeah, yeah, I want to take you out and have a romantic dinner.

Jackie

Just give me a kiss, good night.

Jennifer

No, he doesn't. We'll sit and talk for three hours. No, he doesn't. That guy just wants to have sex. She's like he's looking at his watch. Oh gosh, I thought I would have to be like he's got a little checklist on his hand that's written on his hand. He's like dinner check, candy to check, flowers check, taxi checks. Like, it's true.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, have you ever heard of that turnout? Why? You want to talk so much snow? I want to show you the beautiful lights.

Jennifer

Oh, he does it. Yes. We should be telling our young daughters this so they understand the concept here. But yeah, it was wasn't one of the greatest, one of the greatest conversations I ever had with anybody, and it was a very short conversation. He just basically told me that.

Jackie

I know. What do you say to that? I'm like, either I don't want to go out with you anymore or No, I wasn't dating him.

Jennifer

I wasn't dating him. Oh, I thought you said you were dating him. I was like, No, no, I didn't. I heard that wrong. I was dating, and he told me that. And he's like, remember all that because that's gonna be important, and you'll just like it helped me. And I was like, man, it just was so simple. Anyways, it's a difference between the way men feel and the way the women act, is the difference of that. Like so, you know, one of the things on here it says is in the men, men are from Mars, women are from Venus saying is that men value respect. Well, women value emotional safety. And that's probably true. Like in life, we rather be comfortable and safe than be respected for various things where men would probably not value an emotional safety. It's not it's not really that important to them.

Jackie

But no, you're saying that men show love through actions and women express love through words and nurturing, right? Yeah. That's kind of the same thing, but it's kind of a nicer way to put it.

Jennifer

Right? Because the dude delivered that news to me, so he went right to the heart of it.

Jackie

To the point, right? Like, here you go. I'm not gonna I'm not sugarcoating this bad boy. Skip around this right now. I'm just gonna be watching.

Jennifer

I was like, you know, we've done.

Jackie

And I was like, man, that was something. You're like, you know, I have two babies, right?

Jennifer

Right? I'm like, this is this is really answering some questions for me here. Anyways, but men want to solve the problems and women want to be heard and understood. And that's number one reason. What is the number one reason why you have friends? Because you need to be, you need to be heard and understood. I will listen to Jackie and I will understand what she says, and I will listen. And you know, we do this multiple times, and it's okay because I process the same way. I can be empathetic to Jackie's situation because a lot of times I know where it's coming from, right? But they're not just one little situation that happened today, it's a cluster of things that have happened, and this is the point that we've gotten to, and now we've got an impasse. So how do we deal with it? So that's the other thing I think that people need to understand too. It's not usually a one Jackie's problem doesn't just pop up one day, it's an ongoing thing, right?

Jackie

So I'm I yeah, I finally just I let things go and go and go till I finally get frustrated and blow up. Blow up. And then so the and the one to be heard is true too, because I do have that. My husband will I'll tell him something, and this frustrates me so bad. And he'll just look at me and not like even say anything. Well, can you say something? Can you back me up? Can you say just say you're right. Don't just stare at me. But it's frustrating me more. Now I'm pissed at you and adapt to the situation. The problem just got bigger. Like all of a sudden, you're part of my problem. And it's true. It's true. You get more frustrated because you're waiting for something. It's like, just say something.

Jennifer

Listen, my husband is a man of I don't know. Few words. Yes. He may, he may get up to a hundred a day, he may be less than a hundred a day. So my problems, we don't have words for that. It's just way goes beyond it's like it's a yes or no. Like, if I can prove like if I can pronounce if I can give it to him and give me a yes or no, I may get an answer, but I don't think so. My husband does not want to deal with any of my issues.

Jackie

And I and then my husband's the opposite that talks all the time. So when he doesn't talk, it's like, give me something. Give me something. Say something. You have an opinion in there. I know you do. The silent treatment's coming out, and I'm not gonna talk to you now at all. I'm gonna go call my girlfriend.

Jennifer

Yeah, the passive-aggressive silent treatment is now in play. I'm no longer speaking to you because you said nothing. You should have backed me up, right? There's always that.

Jackie

Yes, which I know is immature, and I'm working on that.

Jennifer

Whatever. It's not immaturity, it's you know, woman's right to give the silent treatment and move on to her friends. Trust me, Jackie. You're not the only woman that does it. I mean, you girls can write in all you want and you can definitely you know relate to Jackie and what she does. Like, we haven't evolved that much, trust me. So, anyways, so guys like to recharge in solitude, they don't need it, and we recharge in connection. That's true, right? Yeah, they can be alone. I can be alone too. That recharges me some, but as I've gotten older, but you know, really if I want to recharge, go have a girl's weekend or something, like just let that energy get out of my system and feel understood for a weekend and then go back to the silent treatment, which is what I get, I guess. Hey, whatever works for you, Jen. Whatever works for you.

SPEAKER_02

It's a marriage of silent treatment, it's great.

Jackie

There's a lot of years there, so it's working.

Jennifer

True that we're at 22 or 23 now, so anyway, I like my recharging this all the two definitely because just by myself.

Jackie

But hey, he brings you dinner.

Jennifer

I know, but he's even selecting on that a little bit, so I don't know. I'm having to buy the pre-made things at Costco now for dinner and put them in the oven myself. Can you imagine? Like things have really changed around here.

SPEAKER_02

Oh no.

Jennifer

I know. Things need things need revamping around here. Okay, so men like to communicate directly. True. Women communicate layers in context. That's true, Jack. It's like when we communicate, if we're not on silent treatment mode, right?

Jackie

We may say I know all of you women out there understand. I know you do. Well, most of you.

Jennifer

Of course they do. Of course they do. And all you women whose husband has 100 word, you know, max word capacity a day. You know what I'm talking about. Like, Lord, call me. Like we'll talk. Um, but yeah, we do. We kind of throw things out and then we see how it feels, and then we throw another thing out. Like, we toss things around in our heads and we definitely go to each other with different aspects of it to find out what they think. A lot of it is just like, am I on the right track? I think with you too, especially, like, should I feel this way? And I'm like, yeah, 100% should feel that way. It's ridiculous, or whatever. It's you know, bestie, bestie chats are made for you to feel more, I don't know, understood. Right? So, anyways, okay, so men often compartment compartmentology and that's true, and we emotionally integrate everything. Yeah, I think so. We probably take everything from all over our minds and our brains and charge it up and get it involved in a problem that has nothing to really do with anything, and we, you know, we'll make use of years of stuff that we've got. So they'll just put it away that's filed away, and I'm not thinking about that anymore. So don't talk about that with me anymore. So it's interesting. And then men love consist love consistently consistently, and women emotional depth. Uh they want consistent, normal, everyday women want deeper emotional depth to their love. I think that's true too. I think we that's why we always want romance and things that make us feel like we're being seen. And they just want sex consistency. Let me go back to it. Men give love for sex, and women give sex for love. Chew on that.

Jackie

That's kind of what that one was, right?

Jennifer

I know, but I'm telling you, it was the greatest thing ever told me at a young age. It has helped me. So I want to give thanks to you.

Jackie

Can't wait to share that with my granddaughter. She's only 18 months, but she's 18 months, yeah.

Jennifer

Yeah, give that a little bit. She's really smart. You probably want to try that around 18. Like, I don't know if we need to hear her do it too much. But they should understand. Or maybe maybe 13 these age, like these days. These days I'm like 18. Yeah. But you should. You should tell women, you should definitely at least, if you don't talk about the sex part of it, Jack, just at least say we're different.

Jackie

Not really thinking about it. She's 18 months. Right now, it's like, say grandma.

Jennifer

Yeah. But the next thing is sex. So you better get out, you better get your game by in order there. You had a planner, right? I go. Anyway, so that's why women need women, and I don't think any of us would do it because we need some stuff, process emotions without judgment. That's it. Process emotions without judgment. That is really what we need. I think that's that just right there. It says it. We need to process emotions without being judged and know that because we say some whacked out shit, Jack, to each other, right?

Jackie

Oh yeah, like definitely. But I always say that. That's what I always feel about all you girls. I'm because I say some whacked out stuff. I admit it. Like we said, this is our therapy, people. We found that out when we started this podcast. I learned so much about myself, and then I get off here and think a little bit. I know, right? What did I just learn from that? I said that out loud. That's true. Why can't I say that to myself?

Jennifer

But it's true. We're looking for the emotion without the judgment. Like, just let me talk and don't judge me. And I'm gonna say some wacky shit. I don't really mean it, but and that's the part that's fun. It's like, we know you don't mean it, or we think we think it. We don't think it. We can't do it, but we can think it. So that's part of it too, right? Like, you know, uh-huh. I'm gonna smack that bitch down and you know, kick her in the face. Yeah, do it. Do it. We're not really gonna do it. But the fact you want to makes me feel good. Because I like it.

Jackie

We were still in high school, you would have done it, right? You would have done it. I would have done it. Sure.

Jennifer

You'd have been you'd have been at my house because you've been on suspension for kicking and screaming and fighting with somebody. But anyways. So, anyways, it's definitely it's definitely good to to read that book. If you are having emotional issues with your husband, read Men Are from Mars, Women A From Venus. I highly recommend it. You don't even need to get a therapist at this point, just start there. That's where they're gonna start you. They're gonna tell you you need to figure out why you guys are so different. And then once you understand the difference, I think like anything in life, you can then learn to deal with it because you you know what to expect. I'm gonna get an answer from him, and he's gonna tell me what to do. And I don't want to hear it. What I want to hear is why I'm right. And then you call me. And I'm like, yeah, you're all right. Of course you're right. Fuck all of them. You're right. And then she chews on it and she feels better, and then she goes to Rick and she's like, What did you say I needed to do? And then she probably does that. But you know, that's you know, that's why it's that's processing, that's part of it. So just, you know, try to try to keep that in mind when dealing with your friends and also with your husbands or your partners or whoever you're with. Anyways, okay, let's go to the best bestie rapid question, Jack. You go first.

Jackie

Okay, let's see. What's one thing men do that drives you crazy, but you kind of admire it too? How my husband can just kind of like let it go.

Jennifer

Really?

Jackie

Drives me crazy. Like, I need to go over it and talk about it. Like just an issue we had just recently of something that happened. And he's just like, just let it go. Whatever. It's not, you know, like it's not affecting us now. It's over and done with. Okay, well, then next time this is I'm not gonna do this, and I'm not gonna be blinding relaxed and he's just like, just let it go. How do you do that? I know, right? I would say I wish I could let more go. You know what I mean? I wish I didn't take it so deep, like almost like they're doing it at me, but even though I know they're not, you know what I mean? Right. Like something said or done, like a text I got from someone recently, and I was just like, wow, and I just want to like fire back. He's like, no, it's not gonna help. Just let it go.

Jennifer

That's true. Like it has to be. I would say that I would say the one thing men do that drives me crazy that you admire too, I guess that is it. They can put compartmentalize their situations and then really just walk away. Like it doesn't mention it again. Yeah, it doesn't stir, doesn't ruffle their feathers at all. We're all fluffed up and we're ready to roll. Our hands are out there, we're ready to go.

Jackie

Our faces are red.

Jennifer

Our faces are good for you guys. You don't get affected by anything. We do. All right, my turn. What's something women do better than anyone?

Jackie

Support.

Jennifer

Yep.

Jackie

Love.

Jennifer

Love, yeah. Support and love. Take care. Mm-hmm. I think I think that we are made for it and we do it better than anyone, and nobody can touch us on that. Some guys that are made that way and they're sweet and da-da-da. But it could be an act as well. They could just be like behaving at that point. Like right.

Jackie

I need to console her so she'll feel better and just drop it.

Jennifer

Men give love for sex. Don't forget that one. He's consoling you because at the end he thinks he's gonna get sad. 100%. That is the truth, too. I'm not kidding you. So go back to that when needed. So but women are better at it than we care. We care. I don't know if men care that much. That's part of it. They just don't care.

Jackie

We're not saying a bad thing. It's just that's how they were wired. Have you ever expected a man to meet a need that only a bestie really could?

Jennifer

Yeah.

Jackie

Yeah.

Jennifer

Emotionally support.

Jackie

And then I find out that that's not, I need to call my bestie. Because you're not doing it for me.

Jennifer

Yeah.

Jackie

And I'm not giving you sex, so I can call my bestie.

Jennifer

He's like, Love is over. I'm not giving you sex. I'm not gonna have sex. I'm telling you. This is the greatest line ever. I don't know. I don't want to say the guy's name because I know him, but it was like the greatest conversation I ever had in my life. All right. What's the biggest difference you've noticed how men and women handle emotions? Men generally don't. I think they just sidestep them, and women, you know, get the full explosion of, you know, I don't know. I don't think it has anything to do with it. I used to think maybe it was your period made you all crazy, and you know, maybe your emotions. Now it's I think we're just creatures.

Jackie

Now it's menopause.

Jennifer

Now it's menopause. It just goes on and on. We're blaming on something. I think we're just more wired for it. Women are nutty that way. So um, yeah, there's a huge difference between how men and women handle emotions. 100%. Yeah, they just curb it.

Jackie

I do that there is one thing my husband does that's very cute. Like if we're watching a really sad movie and he'll look over and where he's kind of teary-eyed, and he has to look over to me because if he knows if I'm really like just pouring crying, it's really sad, so it's okay that he's like teared up. He's like, it is really sad. Okay.

unknown

Yeah.

Jackie

But he does, and he always says it too. Yes, he needs to like look over. And if I wasn't, I I what one time I should try to be hard and not cry.

Jennifer

Then you're like, what are you whining about, whiny ass? Catherine.

Jackie

You'll be crying. I see it, but I could never do it. Especially if he's feeling that emotion, you know what I mean? Yeah. Okay. How do your female friendships help you navigate your relationships with men?

Jennifer

They're an outlet. They're a reguide, they're a redirect, they're a soft place to land, and they're help you feel like you can go back for the you know you're basically going to a well that's pretty dry without a lot of connection of emotions. So you have to find that somewhere and then you go back and you can navigate it better because maybe you feel like you got heard or understood and it gave you that. And it it definitely helps your ne it helps your relationship with men. If men were only left to do that for you and you never got it, if you don't have any friends, I don't know what you're doing for as you're a if you're a girl. Like you could be in void of emotions, I guess, but I don't know many women that could handle that wrong term.

Jackie

No, because actually I have an example, my first marriage. I didn't have my friends. Right. I only had his family. And like my and we know, you know, mine I can't talk to you about things. Yeah, yeah. Anywho, um, literally, it drove me crazy. Yeah. I was a mess. Yeah. By the time I left, I was literally a mess. I had to find myself again.

Jennifer

Right. And it took a lot of support. Yeah. Because you need it. Women need it. Don't sidestep it. Like we're not meant to process the way men do, and if we're forced to process the way they do, we are not good long term with that. I don't think. I don't know any women that would be. And it's important to have your friends, especially for some landing soft spots, because if you don't have it, you're going to really find yourself in a bad situation. Like Jackie said, she got isolated and she got everybody around her that supported and loved her and understood her was removed from her life. And it did not it was rough. And we're lucky she got out of that okay. So praise Jesus on that one. So all right. If this episode hit you in the fields or made you laugh way too hard, we consider that a win.

Jackie

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Jennifer

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