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Gool Talk: Duct Cleaning vs. Duct Renovation - What ACCA Standard 6 Actually Says

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The $99 Duct Cleaning Pitch

SPEAKER_02

Have you ever uh opened your mail or maybe just scrolled through one of those neighborhood apps and seen those really bright, incredibly aggressive postcards?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah. Like the ones promising, like a whole house duct cleaning for something ridiculous, really. Like 99 bucks.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, exactly.$99. And they always make these massive sweeping claims. You know, they promise that this one quick vacuuming service is gonna cure your seasonal allergies, slash your monthly energy bills, and I mean basically solve every respiratory problem your family has ever had.

SPEAKER_00

Aaron Powell It is a remarkably persuasive pitch, mostly because it relies on a very simple, very human assumption, which is uh if something looks dirty, it must be broken. And if you scrub it clean while you fix it, and that logic feels completely sound, you know, until you actually look at the mechanics of building science.

SPEAKER_02

Aaron Powell And that is exactly our mission for this deep dive today. We are going to completely separate that aggressive HVAC marketing from actual verified building science.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, which is sorely needed.

SPEAKER_02

Aaron Powell It really is. We want to save you time, save you money, and honestly save you a lot of frustration the next time you feel tempted by one of those coupons.

SPEAKER_00

Aaron Powell Because the reality of what actually makes your heating and cooling system efficient, it's completely invisible to the naked eye. It happens behind your drywall, uh up in your attic, and it really has almost nothing to do with running a vacuum hose through your four vents.

SPEAKER_02

Right. And to get to the bottom of this, we're pulling from a truly fascinating source today. We're looking at a master class from a guy named Dave Hartzell.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, an absolute veteran in the field.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, totally. He's an HVAC veteran with 45 years of experience out in Kingfisher, Oklahoma.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And what he does in this material is he breaks down something called the 2011 ACCA Standard 6.

SPEAKER_00

Right, which stands for restoring the efficiency of residential forced air distribution systems.

ACCA6 Restores Performance

SPEAKER_02

Exactly. Okay, let's unpack this. What exactly is this standard and you know why is Dave Hartzell using a document from 2011 to call out modern$99 duct cleaners?

SPEAKER_00

Aaron Powell So ACCA6 is fundamentally the rule book for real, verifiable duct system restoration. Because before this standard, uh the industry just had a lot of guesswork.

SPEAKER_02

Just people kind of winging it.

SPEAKER_00

Basically, yeah. But ACCA6 specifically outlines what a professional actually must do when a residential duct system is performing poorly. It focuses entirely on how the ductwork functions as a distribution network.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, a distribution network.

SPEAKER_00

Right. Its only job is delivering conditioned air efficiently from the main unit to each room in your house. That's it.

SPEAKER_02

Notice what isn't in that job description, though. I mean, you didn't say anything about the aesthetic cleanliness of the sheet metal.

SPEAKER_00

No, I didn't. And that is the biggest paradigm shift right out of the gate. ACCA6 is not a cleaning guide, it is a performance restoration standard. Wow. Yeah. The standard explicitly states that the real performance killers in a home are systemic failures. So things like massive air leakage, uh, insulation breakdown, and just fundamental design deficiencies.

SPEAKER_02

Well, what about the dirt?

SPEAKER_00

Dirt on the duct walls is categorized as a cosmetic issue for the metal. It's not a mechanical failure of the system.

SPEAKER_02

Wait, so are you telling me that a thin layer of dust isn't what's making my AC work overtime? Because it's so counterintuitive. When my AC is struggling to cool down the house, the first thing I do is look at the layer of dust on my floor registers, and I just assume the whole system is choking on dirt. You know, I assume the air literally can't get through.

SPEAKER_00

Well, what's fascinating here is that the scientific evidence for routine cleaning is surprisingly weak compared to the massive marketing engine behind it. Really? Yeah. If you look at the physics of airflow, a thin layer of dust adhering to the inner walls of a metal truck line, it just doesn't create enough friction or blockage to reduce the volume of air reaching your bedroom.

SPEAKER_02

Oh wow. So if we were looking at the ductwork as a distribution network, like you said, a little dust on the shoulder of the highway doesn't stop the cargo trucks from getting to their destination.

SPEAKER_00

That's a great way to look at it.

SPEAKER_02

The real problem isn't the dust. The real problem is that the bridge is out entirely and the trucks are driving off a cliff.

SPEAKER_00

That analogy hits the nail on the head. I mean, the standard forces us to stop looking at the aesthetic of clean and start evaluating the physics of efficiency.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_00

When a system is underperforming, the conditioned air, the air you just paid your utility company good money to heat or cool, it's simply failing to make it to the rooms you live in.

Duct Leakage As The Real Thief

SPEAKER_02

So if the if the dust isn't blocking the air from reaching the living room, where is that expensive conditioned air actually going?

SPEAKER_00

It's leaking out.

SPEAKER_02

According to our source material, it's being stolen, basically. We are dealing with the invisible thief of system efficiency, which is leaking air.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. Duct leakage is the primary focus of ACCA6, and the mathematics behind it are genuinely staggering.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, the numbers were nuts.

SPEAKER_00

According to the research Heart Cell sites, a 20% duct leakage rate can reduce your entire system's operating efficiency by 15 to 20%.

SPEAKER_02

You're losing up to a fifth of your efficiency just because the air is escaping into the walls before it hits the room. That's wild.

SPEAKER_00

And that is actually a conservative estimate for many homeowners. Hartzell notes that older homes don't typically start at a mild 5 or 10% leakage rate.

SPEAKER_02

Right. It's way worse.

SPEAKER_00

They frequently begin at a massive 15 to 25% leakage rate. Wow. So a quarter of the air you are paying to cool is just blowing aimlessly into your crawl space, your wall cavities, or, you know, your dark attic.

SPEAKER_02

Think of your duct system like a garden hose. If that hose is full of punctures and slices, it doesn't matter how hard you turn on the spigot at the side of the house.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02

The water is just going to spray out into the grass, right?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And by the time you reach the actual garden you're trying to water, you're getting a pathetic little trickle.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's exactly what's happening.

SPEAKER_02

And you wouldn't try to solve that problem by cleaning the inside of the hose. You have to physically plug the holes.

Testing Leaks With A Duct Blaster

SPEAKER_00

Which is why ACCA6 gives contractors a very strict framework to find and fix those holes. The goal set by the standard for existing homes is to bring the leakage to the outside down below six percent of the total system airflow. Yeah. Ideally, they want to see it push below 4%.

SPEAKER_02

Aaron Powell But how do you even quantify that? I mean, you can't see the air leaking out of a metal joint behind a piece of drywall.

SPEAKER_00

Well, you measure it by introducing a specific diagnostic tool called a duct blaster.

SPEAKER_02

A duct blaster. I love that. It sounds like a weapon from a 1980s sci-fi movie.

SPEAKER_00

It really does sound intense, but it is actually an incredibly precise calibrating instrument. What they do is the contractor seals off all the supply and return vents in your house.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, so taping them up.

SPEAKER_00

Yep, completely sealed.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Then they attach this duct blaster, which is essentially a powerful computerized fan to the system. It pressurizes the entire duct network.

SPEAKER_02

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_00

And the machine measures the exact amount of airflow required to maintain a specific pressure inside those ducts.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I see. Because the vents are taped shut, if the system was perfectly airtight, the fan wouldn't need to pump any additional air to maintain the pressure. Exactly. But because there are leaks, the fan has to constantly push air in to replace what's escaping.

SPEAKER_00

You got it. And the computer tells you precisely how many cubic feet of air per minute the fan is pumping. That number is your leakage rate.

SPEAKER_02

That is brilliant.

SPEAKER_00

It is. It changes HVAC repair from a technician just, you know, guessing by feeling around the metal with their bare hands into an exact, undeniable science. You get a hard mathematical number.

Why Duct Tape Fails

SPEAKER_02

And once you have that number, you have to actually seal the leaks. Right. And Hartzell points out that this is where a lot of older, well-intentioned repairs totally fail. Because what do most people reach for when they have a leaky duct?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, don't say it.

SPEAKER_02

Duct tape. Yeah. Standard gray cloth duct tape. I mean, it has the word duct right in the name.

SPEAKER_00

It is one of the greatest misnomers in hardware history. ACCA 6 is very specific about what materials are acceptable for system restoration. And standard gray cloth duct tape is explicitly banned for this application.

SPEAKER_02

Explicitly banned. And the mechanics of why it fails are so fascinating.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, they really are.

SPEAKER_02

Hartzell mentions he has seen jobs where someone supposedly sealed every joint in an attic with cloth tape. Ten years later, he goes up there and every single piece of it has just peeled off and fallen into the insulation.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I've seen that too. The rubber-based adhesive on standard cloth tape simply cannot handle the extreme thermal cycling.

SPEAKER_02

Expanding and contracting day after day.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. Along with the moisture of an HVAC system, the adhesive literally bakes, it turns into a dry, brittle dust, and the cloth backing just falls away.

Mastic, Foil Tape, Aerosol Sealing

SPEAKER_02

So what are you supposed to use instead?

SPEAKER_00

Well, to create a permanent seal, the standard requires contractors to use materials that bond physically and chemically to the metal. So for accessible joints, that means using mastic.

SPEAKER_02

Mastic, what is that?

SPEAKER_00

It's a thick, wet, fiber-reinforced paste that you brush on, and it hardens like a concrete shell over the gaps. Oh, nice. Or they can use UL listed metal foil tape, which uses an acrylic adhesive designed specifically to survive extreme temperature swings without degrading.

SPEAKER_02

But what about the ducts you can't reach? The ones buried behind, finished drywall, or snaking between floors. Because here's where it gets really interesting. Our source material talks about something called aerosol sealing systems.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. This is a brilliant piece of engineering validated by ACCA6. Because for inaccessible ducts, you can't realistically tear down a homeowner's finished ceiling just to brush some mastic onto a loose joint.

SPEAKER_02

No, nobody wants that.

SPEAKER_00

Right. So instead, technicians use the pressurization concept from the duct blaster, but they inject an aerosolized sealant into the airstream.

SPEAKER_02

It's like fix a flat for your house.

SPEAKER_00

Pretty much.

SPEAKER_02

But how do the particles know where the holes are? I mean they're just floating in the dark in there.

SPEAKER_00

Aaron Ross Powell They follow the pressure differential. Because the system is pressurized and the registers in the house are blocked off, the air is desperately trying to escape through the tiny leaks in the ductwork.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_00

So as the air rushes out of those microscopic gaps, it creates a bottleneck. It carries the sticky sealant particles right to the edge of the hole. Yeah, the particles crash into the edges, stick to the metal, and then stick to each other, stacking up rapidly until they completely bridge the gap and seal the leak from the inside out.

SPEAKER_02

That is incredible. It's like platelets forming a scab over a cut, but it's happening inside your screen.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, that's that's a very accurate comparison, actually.

Insulation And R-Value In Hot Attics

SPEAKER_02

So, okay, you've used Mastic, you've used aerosol, the garden hose is perfectly sealed, not a single drop of air is leaking. But we have a completely different physics problem to deal with now.

SPEAKER_00

We do.

SPEAKER_02

Imagine that perfectly sealed hose is laying inside a literal pizza oven.

SPEAKER_00

That brings us to the second major focus of AC City 6, thermal performance and insulation.

SPEAKER_02

Right. Because when I was reading Hartzell's notes, the thing that blew my mind was the sheer environmental hostility these ducks are sitting in.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, it's brutal.

SPEAKER_02

He's working out in Oklahoma, where the attics in the peak in summer are hitting 130 to 150 degrees Fahrenheit.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and if we connect this to the bigger picture, you have to look at the temperature clash happening right above your ceiling. The conditioned air your AC unit just painstakingly produced is roughly 55 degrees.

SPEAKER_02

You have 55 degree air trying to survive a slow journey through a 150-degree tunnel.

SPEAKER_00

Yep.

SPEAKER_02

That is almost a hundred degree temperature difference, separated by just a thin layer of material.

SPEAKER_00

And that extreme difference drives thermal conduction. Heat naturally wants to move to cold. This is why understanding your ductwork's R value is just as critical as sealing the leaks.

SPEAKER_01

The R value.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. The R simply stands for resistance, specifically resistance to heat flow.

SPEAKER_02

So a higher number means the material puts up a better fight against that 150-degree attic heat trying to bake into the cold airstream.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. Older duct systems might only be insulated to a standard of R4, and that thin layer of insulation just cannot offer enough resistance.

SPEAKER_02

It just bakes.

SPEAKER_00

The heat conducts right through it. So you end up losing a massive amount of your cooling capacity before that 55 degree air ever reaches the register in your living room. By the time it blows on your face, it might be 70 degrees.

SPEAKER_02

Which means you are basically paying to air condition your attic through the walls of the duct.

SPEAKER_00

Sadly, yes.

SPEAKER_02

And the source material points out that older R4 flex duct, which you know looks like a giant slinky wrapped in plastic, isn't just under insulated. It is incredibly fragile.

SPEAKER_00

Extremely.

SPEAKER_02

It frequently gets kinked, compressed, or just stepped on by contractors moving around in the attic.

SPEAKER_00

Right. And kinking a flex duct creates a severe double penalty. First, you physically restrict the volume of airflow, exactly like stepping on our garden hose. Right. But second, you destroy the thermal resistance. The fiberglass insulation wrapped around the duct works by trapping millions of tiny air pockets. Those air pockets are the actual insulators.

SPEAKER_02

So I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so when you kink or compress the duct, you squeeze out all those air pockets. The fiberglass is flattened tight against the inner lining, dropping its R-value to near zero at that exact spot, leaving it completely vulnerable to the attic heat.

SPEAKER_02

So how does ACCA6 mandate that we fix this thermal disaster?

SPEAKER_00

Aaron Powell Well, the standard requires bringing the resistance up to modern energy codes. In hostile environments like an Oklahoma attic, that means a minimum of R8 insulation.

SPEAKER_02

So doubling it.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. A proper restoration involves tearing out that degraded, kinked R4 flex duct and replacing it with new, properly suspended R8 material.

SPEAKER_02

Aaron Ross Powell Or wrapping the existing rigid ones, right?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, wrapping older rigid metal ducts and thick thermal blankets or even redesigning the sister entirely to reroute the duct runs away from the absolute hottest microclimates in the attic.

SPEAKER_02

It all comes down to preserving the temperature of the air from the unit to the room.

SPEAKER_00

Precisely.

SPEAKER_02

But if physics dictates that sealing holes and upgrading thermal resistance are the only real ways to restore performance, we have a huge contradiction on our hands here.

SPEAKER_00

We do.

SPEAKER_02

The$99 duct cleaning industry is booming. They wouldn't exist if people didn't actively believe they needed them.

Why Cleaning Ads Work

SPEAKER_00

And this raises an important question. Why are consumers so drawn to these cleaning services when the building science completely contradicts the marketing?

SPEAKER_02

I really think it comes down to human psychology. I mean, we like to clean things, it feels proactive, you know?

SPEAKER_00

It does.

SPEAKER_02

We watch our cars, we scrub our kitchen counters, we vacuum our rugs. We just have a deep psychological bias toward visual cleanliness. We look down a floor vent, we see a cobweb and a layer of dust, and the marketing exploits that very natural instinct.

SPEAKER_00

They absolutely do.

SPEAKER_02

The ads prey on us by saying that dust is making your family sick and it's ruining your AC unit.

SPEAKER_00

The problem is that when you look at the scientific reality, and specifically the Environmental Protection Agency's extensive guidelines on indoor air quality, that narrative totally falls apart. Totally. The EPA's official documented stance is that routine duck cleaning has absolutely not been shown to prevent health problems.

SPEAKER_02

Let me repeat that for everyone listening, because it cuts through millions of dollars in advertising. Routine duct cleaning does not prevent health problems.

SPEAKER_00

Furthermore, the EPA states that studies do not conclusively demonstrate that particle levels in your home's air even increase because of dirty ducts.

SPEAKER_02

Which is wild to think about.

SPEAKER_00

But it comes down to aerodynamics. Most of the dirt and dust that accumulates inside ductwork adheres tightly to the inner surfaces. The air traveling through the center of the duct moves right past it without disturbing it.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, so it just stays there.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Unless you go in there with a brush and actively agitate it, that dust is completely inert. So the whole premise of paying for routine preventative cleaning every year to protect your health is a complete myth.

SPEAKER_02

It is a$99 placebo. You're paying for peace of mind, not physics.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly.

When Duct Cleaning Is Legit

SPEAKER_02

However, Hartzill is clear that there are a few very specific, severe exceptions. It's not that duck cleaning is always a scam, it's just highly overprescribed for things it can't fix. So when is a vacuum actually warranted?

SPEAKER_00

The source material lists four specific, verifiable conditions where cleaning is necessary. First, a rodent or insect infestation inside the duct system.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, fair enough. If I have a family of raccoons living in my return drop, please clean them out.

SPEAKER_00

Definitely. Second, visible mold growth on the hard surfaces of the ducts or on other components of your heating and cooling system. Makes sense. Third, substantial verifiable contamination. And this doesn't mean a layer of dust. This means documented evidence that heavy debris is actively breaking loose from the walls, releasing into the airflow, and physically blowing into your living space.

SPEAKER_02

So like actual chunks of stuff flying out of the vents.

SPEAKER_00

Right. And finally, post-renovation cleanup. If you just had major drywall work done and the contractors ran the AC, your ducks might be choked with heavy construction dust.

SPEAKER_02

So actual physical emergencies, not routine spring maintenance.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02

And Hartzell says his approach is remarkably simple. If he is inspecting a home and finds genuine contamination like mold or pest debris, he refers the customer out to a certified NADCA contractor.

SPEAKER_00

Right. That's the National Air Duct Gleaners Association.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. What he absolutely will not do is charge a client$99 to run a vacuum brush through their vents and pretend he just improved the energy efficiency of the home.

SPEAKER_00

Because without pulling out the mastic to seal leaks and without upgrading the R value to block the attic heat, running a vacuum does absolutely nothing for the system's thermal performance.

How To Vet Contractors With Data

SPEAKER_02

So if the vacuum isn't the answer, how do you verify a contractor is actually doing the science? Like if someone tells you they're going to restore your Dutch work, how do you know they aren't just taking your money and wrapping things in useless cloth tape?

SPEAKER_00

You make them prove it with data. The beauty of ACCA standard six is that it removes all the guessw.

SPEAKER_02

This is how it should be.

SPEAKER_00

It establishes a strict narrative flow that a contractor must follow when they visit your house.

SPEAKER_02

Let's walk through what that visit actually looks like, because this is the lie detector you can use the next time someone tries to sell you HVAC work.

SPEAKER_00

Good idea.

SPEAKER_02

So Hartzell pulls into your driveway. He isn't rolling out a massive vacuum hose first. What does he bring inside?

SPEAKER_00

He brings out his diagnostic equipment. Before he touches a single wrench, he has to establish a mathematical baseline. He sets up the duct blaster to quantify exactly how much leakage exists in the total system. Okay. He uses a hood to measure the exact cubic feet per minute of airflow coming out of the specific registers in your rooms. And he goes into the attic to visually inspect for the physical damage we discussed, like those kinked R4 flex ducks.

SPEAKER_02

So he's building a customized dossier on your house.

SPEAKER_00

Essentially, yes.

SPEAKER_02

He documents, for example, that the register in your master bedroom is designed to deliver 90 cubic feet of air per minute. But his hood measurement shows it's only delivering 60.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02

Then he goes in the attic and finds that the reason you're losing 30 cubic feet of air is because there's a disconnected joint hidden under the insulation.

SPEAKER_00

And that baseline changes the entire dynamic. It moves the conversation away from vague sales pitches like your system seems old and dusty, to specific engineering facts like your master bedroom is losing 30 CFM of air at this exact joint. Once the homeowner sees the data, the contractor performs the actual restoration. They seal the joints with mastic, they replace the degraded flex duct with suspended R8 materials, and they fix the physical disconnections.

SPEAKER_02

And then comes the most important part of the entire visit: the ultimate lie detector. They don't just pack up their tools, hand you an invoice, and tell you to trust them.

SPEAKER_00

No, they do not.

SPEAKER_02

They have to hook up the duct blaster and run the test again.

SPEAKER_00

Right. They must compare the post-restoration measurement directly to the original baseline. They have to prove mathematically that the leakage rate has dropped from, say, 22% down to the standards goal of under 6%.

SPEAKER_02

So what does this all mean? It means the numbers don't lie. The ultimate takeaway from Hart Cell's masterclass is this. If an HVAC contractor cannot show you a quantifiable before and after leakage measurement, they're not doing work to ACCA 6 standards.

SPEAKER_00

No, they're not.

SPEAKER_02

They aren't doing building science. They're just selling you a service.

SPEAKER_00

This scientific, verifiable approach is exactly what separates true professionals from fly by night marketers. It's why a veteran with 45 years in the business focuses entirely on measurable airflow, pressure dynamics, and thermal resistance rather than flashy postcards.

SPEAKER_02

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00

True system restoration is measured, documented, and verified.

SPEAKER_02

You now have an immense amount of practical value in your back pocket. The next time you want to improve your home's efficiency, you know, to ask the contractor for a duct blaster test, you know, to demand mastic or acrylic metal soil tape over standard gray cloth tape, you understand what our value means and why it matters in a 150-degree attic. And most importantly, you know, to save your money on those$99 routine duct vacuums, unless you have a verifiable physical contamination issue. You are now a scientifically empowered homeowner.

SPEAKER_00

You understand the invisible mechanics of what is actually happening in the hidden spaces of your house. And that allows you to advocate for the actual physics of your home rather than falling for an aesthetic illusion.

The Bigger Lesson About Visibility

SPEAKER_02

Which leaves us with one final lingering thought to mull over today. We talked a lot about human psychology and why we so easily fall for those cleaning ads. Why are our brains so inherently biased toward visual cleanliness over invisible efficiency?

SPEAKER_00

It's a great question.

SPEAKER_02

We will happily pull out our wallets to pay for the aesthetic illusion of. A shiny vacuum to metal pipe, while for years we completely ignore the invisible mathematical physics of conditioned air escaping into our walls.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, we do it all the time.

SPEAKER_01

So ask yourself how does this intense bias toward the visible but useless over the invisible but vital affect other areas of our lives? How does it change the way we maintain our relationships, our bodies, or our careers? Are we just polishing the metal or are we actually sealing the leaks? It's something to think about. Thanks for joining us on this deep dive into building science. See you next time.