Someone Close to Elizibeth Green Knows Something and They're Not Telling

In April 2024, 21-year-old Elizibeth "Lizzy" Green walked out the front door of her home in Callao, Utah — a remote desert community of fewer than 50 people — and was never seen again. Nearly two years later, no physical evidence has been found. No arrests have been made. And the case has received almost no national attention.

In this episode, we sit down with Kale Green, Elizibeth's father, for an exclusive interview. He shares what investigators found — and didn't find — on her devices, why the K-9 units' failure to pick up any scent trail points him toward someone within the community, and why he believes the answers to his daughter's disappearance lie not in the vast surrounding desert, but among the people who were already there.

He also shares details that have never been publicly reported — including disturbing events inside the household in the weeks before she vanished, and a comment made to him by someone close to the case that he has never been able to shake.

This is a story about a young woman the news largely forgot. And a father who refuses to let that be the end of her story.

If you have information about Elizibeth Green's whereabouts, contact the Juab County Sheriff's Office at (435) 856-0358. Reference case number 24JC0335.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:03

This is this is Dustin with the cold cases. Uh we're here with Kel, who el his uh daughter is Elizabeth Green. She went missing in Utah, I believe, in April uh two thousand twenty-four. So uh Kel, uh what was your daughter like?

SPEAKER_01 0:27

Uh she was uh extra friendly, uh always needed to be the center of attention, uh silly, uh you know, uh as far as I'm concerned, you know, a typical teenage girl, uh you know, uh in the selfies and you know, liked to hang out with her friends, uh she's really loved her family. Uh despite the issues and hardships she's had coming up and growing up, you know, she was really thriving.

SPEAKER_00 1:12

Yeah, and um you know one of the things that I was I was I was kinda taken aback by is you know, she was twenty one and she was living in a community, I think, of like about fifty people or something.

SPEAKER_01 1:28

Yeah, yeah. It was super small. I and not not only it was the community super small, but it was really spread out. Uh you know, uh you're talking about uh fifty people spread out and throughout like a ten mile square radius.

SPEAKER_00 1:50

Do you think do you think there's any way that may have factored into her disappearing?

SPEAKER_01 1:56

Well uh honestly where she disappeared from is the kind of place you go to to disappear.

SPEAKER_00 2:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 2:07

Yeah, uh it it's so remote and there's so few people there, you know, uh like I said, it it's where you'd go if you wanted to disappear, not where where you disappear from necessarily.

SPEAKER_00 2:24

Right.

SPEAKER_01 2:26

Right. I mean uh when I went out there after receiving the news, you know, uh pretty much you know, the trailer she went missing from and the ranch that she was supposed to uh be starting work at the day she went missing were the only you know residences that you could really see. I mean there are a couple trailers, I don't know if those belonged to other people or if the ranch hands stayed there or whatnot, but uh you know it in the immediate area there's probably maybe five dwellings for families, whatnot, and then you know, everyone else was over a mile away this way or that way, or so so there so there's no reason she should have just like basically vanished, you know. Uh yeah, uh that's pretty much yeah. I mean it's a small enough area that and you know I imagine so few people actually travel there that aren't familiar with it specifically that you know it it anybody in an unfamiliar vehicle would be noticed, and especially you know during that time of day.

SPEAKER_00 3:56

Yeah. And uh one of the other things I wanted to ask you about was um she she had a dating profile that somehow they had to go to a profile to find the dating profile or some weird stuff like that. And I was gonna ask you about that. What what do you make of that?

SPEAKER_01 4:14

Uh you know, um I don't know uh when they were doing investigating her data trail, you know, uh they came across several different email accounts and Facebook accounts and whatnot. And yeah, her being twenty-one and being so isolated, I'm not necessarily surprised that she was on a dating site. I was more surprised to find out that uh she had been sending, you know, um adult content through Snapchat or Yeah, that's totally normal uh for her age and everything too. Uh yeah, I I think though that she was doing that as a way a source of income.

SPEAKER_00 5:05

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 5:05

Yeah. At least that's uh uh because she didn't really have any significant other to necessarily be doing that with.

SPEAKER_00 5:18

Do you think maybe that is another avenue we could explore where you know somebody who may have bought her uh adult content like wanted to do something or something?

SPEAKER_01 5:31

I mean, uh I've definitely considered it. But as I said, with as remote as the area is, you'd have to be familiar with it uh to even find it, because um from what I had been told through the locals of the area was if you tried to GPS it'd try taking you through uh military um tamp whatever fort. Oh military land. Yeah. And uh proving grounds actually where you know they do their testing tank testing and you know, so uh yeah, like I said, you know, unless you were familiar with the area, you're not just gonna be cruising down the street and you know, I e what they called roads were pretty much just paths through the desert.

SPEAKER_00 6:24

Yeah. And you wanted to talk about your theories about what happened. So what what are your theories about what happened?

SPEAKER_01 6:32

Uh I mean, uh, obviously due to what they found through her digital data, whatnot, you know, w one of the theories is she agreed to meet somebody for a date or whatever, and they picked her up and never brought her back. Uh uh, but uh as I said, having gone out there myself and seeing how remote it is, and when me and my fiance went out there and ourselves, you know, uh within minutes of us arriving, uh, you know, the local group chat started blowing up, you know, who's that, you know, uh why are they here kind of thing, which, you know, once again, you know, leads me to believe that, you know, if it were someone who was not from the area that picked her up, you know, uh we'd have some kind of clues by now.

SPEAKER_00 7:36

So you think maybe it was somebody in the area?

SPEAKER_01 7:40

Uh I I definitely due to the remoteness and whatnot, you you would definitely have to be familiar with the area and to be able to move without necessarily being noticed, you know, you'd have to be a vehicle that's familiar to the area, and well, there's only fifty of those.

SPEAKER_00 8:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:01

Yeah, uh you know, maybe a hundred if everybody owned two vehicles and you know, we're not counting tractors or ATVs, but if that's the case, it should be easier to investigate, I would think. Well, uh, you would think uh, but uh you know, so far n nothing's come up from any of her digital data saying that you know, like they found the message saying, you know, yeah, let pick me up here, or you know, I I agree to a date, or you know, n nothing of that line has but that is one of the working theories. Uh you know, um before she'd moved back out to Utah, I mean she because she used to live with her mother before, and then her stepbrother raped her, and she moved back to Illinois and ended up graduating high school and whatnot, and then she went back out to Utah because she missed her mom and she completed job core and then had moved back, you know, from the job core dorms to living with her mom, and uh was supposed to start that job at the ranch so she could get the money to get an actual ID and you know and get you said about the stepbrother, would the stepbrother have been involved? Uh uh I mean I've considered it uh talking to some of his family members and whatnot, and supposedly you know the police have questioned him, he was out of state and can prove that you know he was nowhere around to have done that. But I also had found out that about a month or so before Elizabeth went missing, she'd reached out to her aunt on her mom's side and her grandma asking them to come pick her up and take her back to Texas where they all lived, because said stepbrother had come back to visit the family and whatnot, and she was feeling really uncomfortable. And you know, I also imagine the isolation of where they lived uh had a lot to do with that as well.

SPEAKER_00 10:27

Right, I imagine so, yeah. Well, um I I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 10:32

So one of the other theories that has has gone through my mind was you know, either the stepbrother, stepfather, or his family, you know, did something in order, you know, to try and be able to bring the son back home. And you know, the only thing that I really have to support that is you know, it it's the most logical kind of motive. And while I was out there after initially finding out that she went missing, the stepfather, and I don't know if he was just like warning me of what we were dealing with because of the area and whatnot, but he'd mention that you know, within a 30-minute drive or so was one of the world's deepest mines, and you could easily throw a body down there and it'd never be found.

SPEAKER_00 11:28

Well, that's concerning.

SPEAKER_01 11:30

Yeah, I and it that's always stuck in the back of my head, and I don't know if he was just warning me of you know, hey, this is like the reality of the situation, or if, you know, that's kind of a confession without confessing. Uh as I said, you know, due to trying, you know, potentially trying to get the son back home and whatnot, you know, i that would, you know, goes along with a motive, which is uh out of all the theories that I've come up with, you know, uh obviously other than you know, someone who's trying to traffic people, you know, uh that's the only one that like really makes sense because I am a hundred percent certain that she didn't decide to go for a hike and get lost in the desert and you know, or try climbing a cliff, you know.

SPEAKER_00 12:28

Well well what I got from this story is don't trust anybody in that I think it's called jewab counting. Uh that's what I got from this. Don't trust anybody there.

SPEAKER_01 12:39

Uh well I mean in doing my you know due diligence and whatnot, you know, I've noticed many cases, not just in Jewab County, but in Utah in general, hey, you know, of people her age and younger just pretty much vanishing. And you know, uh then if they have been found, a lot of them have been found with various churches and you know uh because because there's a lot of uh kind of cults out there or something? Well a lot of them have a lot of the things I've been seeing uh you know they're tied into the Mormon church. So I don't know if you know they're trying to bring them back into the fold or recruit them or you know, uh but I I know in every religion, you know, you got you're extremists, so but it yeah I just also know that in Utah, you know, the one of the primary religions and most practice is Mormons. You know, uh Church of Latter-day Saints and Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:58

Was there anything else you want to share?

SPEAKER_01 14:04

I I don't really have anything else to share as far as evidential, you know. Like I said, uh you know, I got all kinds of theories depending on you know which avenue you're trying to look at, but I I can't prove any of them and from what I've gotten from the police, they've gotten nothing, and I don't know if they're just saying that to you know proclaim their investigation.

SPEAKER_00 14:36

What do you think the most important um like evidence is in this case?

SPEAKER_01 14:45

Well, I that should say there really is no evidence. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 14:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:50

And I I think that in itself is the most crucial uh piece of evidence is the fact that there is no evidence.

SPEAKER_00 15:05

Yeah, because if it was somebody out of town there would be some type of evidence somebody would see or there'd be like some type of you know, like marks or something, like uh they would have found something with the FBI and stuff. And then if it's somebody in town, you would so if it was somebody in town, like it would be like it is now where there's no evidence.

SPEAKER_01 15:31

Is that right? Is that right? That's pretty much it. I mean from what I've been told, you know, they've gone through and they questioned everybody in the town, and most of them came out and helped during the search and you know, but nothing's came up from anything, which you know uh I you know part of me, you know, i using that kind of logic and whatnot, you know, it had to be somebody familiar to the surroundings, the area, not just knowing the area, but being known in the area so that nobody thought anything when they drove in or drove out.

SPEAKER_00 16:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:21

If that's the case, you know, uh the dogs, whatnot, they didn't find any sense or anything leading, and the only way that that kind of makes any sense to me is if she'd have been in a vehicle that she was her scent was already attached to.

SPEAKER_00 16:39

Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 16:43

Uh not not necessarily you know a stranger's vehicle, but you know, if her scent was attached to, you know, uh say the stepdad's truck already, because she's you know ridden in that plenty of times, if he were the one to have taken her and you know came back in the truck, you know, the dogs aren't necessarily gonna hit on that, or if they did, nobody'd really think anything of it because it's the family truck.

SPEAKER_00 17:12

Yeah, I didn't think about that. You're right.

SPEAKER_01 17:17

Or, you know, uh grandma's truck, or who you know, I don't necessarily know who all she associated with in the community and who she didn't, and yeah, you know, but I I didn't see anyone and I was there for almost a week and I didn't see anybody there that uh was like her age or you know anybody like that for her to socialize with or anything, you know. I saw very few kids, but thinking my main concentration was around the trailer she lived in and the ranch that she was going to work on.

SPEAKER_00 18:00

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, um I'm gonna post this article and I'm gonna post this interview on there and uh I'll give you a call back right after I hang up on this.

SPEAKER_01 18:12

Okay, uh I'd appreciate you sending me a link too.

SPEAKER_00 18:15

Yes, I will. All right, all right, one second.