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Gambling Scandal, Government Shutdown, and the State of America | What's Going On Podcast
In this week's episode, Keith, Mike, and Tom, engage in a dynamic discussion covering multiple topics. They examine a recent gambling scandal involving NBA figures like Chauncey Billups and the broader implications of this controversy. Additionally, they discuss the ongoing government shutdown, its impact on American workers, and the potential long-term consequences. The hosts also touch on the effectiveness of recent protests and the challenges of political gerrymandering. Tune in for an in-depth analysis of current events and their ramifications on society.
This week's episode features a multi-part discussion addressing a mix of topics ranging from a detailed conversation about a recent gambling scandal involving NBA figures like Chauncey Billups to a broader discourse on the ongoing government shutdown and its implications on American populace.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418What's going on Keith?
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Hey, what's going on,
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418what's going on? Mike Miller?
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Hey, Tom Corley. Hey, Keith Pickens. How you guys doing?
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418good, Mike.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Good.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Well, I had plans to wear my Don Corleone t-shirt, but I decided to go with the Michigan go blue.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418You can't lose with Michigan time. You can, but you shouldn't.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418I
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418hey.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418seeing that this might be a gangster episode.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Right, you told me that I could have pulled out one of my old boss's
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Explain to the listeners what a bline is, Keith.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Just a hat with a small brim back then, they really had the brims that were curved all the way around. Just a gangster hat, basically,
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah,
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418keep it real simple, just a nice brimmed hat that you wear with a suit. That's what gangsters did. They were distinguishable by Their overcoats in their hats. Okay.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Give them another visual. Is that something a pimp will wear?
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418A little less flamboyant.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah. They would be more tailored. You could see that, not that they paid more money, but it was more conservative, if you will,
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Oh, no conservative
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418yeah
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418between the two categories.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah, man, pimps. Pimps want to definitely be seen. I'm not saying that the gangsters don't, but they might even wear an array of colors. You see the
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418This is true.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418have on the black and the gray. The navy blue pimps may have on lime green, royal blue, red
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418true,
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418the shoes to
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418This is very true. There is a distinction between the two.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Yes,
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418hilarious. Mike Miller, You're our basketball guy,
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Me,
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418so help me out man. Why is Chauncey V getting a perk walk?
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418It's like this. Okay let's back up a step. It's. Chauncey Damon Jones. And terry Zi and a whole bunch of other people,
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Yes.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418But we only see
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418yes, sir.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418You know why he's getting a perp walk. They're trying to make him the face The scandal.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Absolutely.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418First off, he don't own none of the tables. He was simply what they call a face card. Someone to attract the other gamblers to the game.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418All right.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418He didn't set up the game, he didn't own the property where the games were held. He didn't own none of the tables. He didn't have no special glasses. He did his part. This is something. Let me back up a step. He was involved in the poker game, Ger and Jones were involved in the gambling on sports. That's two.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418with both of them.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Jones was both. Okay.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Well, allegedly, let's not just throw
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Allegedly.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418this great country of ours, you are,
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Right.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Proven guilty
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Correct. Due process, they all get due process. That's correct. And they were, this gambling ring was linked to four of the five families.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418I didn't know that.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah. That's their words. This is the words of the people you know, on television. Four of the five families were involved in this. But did they name any of those families? No, they just said Chauncey Billups and Terry Er and Damon Jones. I don't wanna call it racism in the way that it's being reported,
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Right.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418but I have a hard time calling it anything other than that. I'm not saying that. They aren't wrong. Of course they're wrong. And just like the Boston Red Sox were wrong, and again, that documentary was on last night about the Boston Red Sox throwing the, what was that? The 19 whatever
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418War series.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Yes. Type of thing has been going on since the dawn time. It's just that these people got caught. That's all I can tell you other games in which I saw. I don't wanna name the player. He's retired now and has a really good gig, but he never made more than$2 million a year, in his contract. Today these guys are making$40 million a year, so I appreciate Shaq's. Take on this when he said, this is a real stain on the NBA and they have to clean this up. But again, it's nothing new. It's just that this group got caught. Any sports gambler knows anybody who's gambled on sports knows. This is nothing new.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418No, it's
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418No, it is just that this group got caught,
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418You're talking about betting on the game. I thought this was just a poker game that kind of. It was had some high stake players and the high stake players got taken to the bank.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418they did, and it's no different. It's almost like a Ponzi scheme, they set'em up and, they had they start off with lower stakes and then they raise the stakes and that's when all of a sudden they start losing, and the house starts winning, or whoever's supposed to win, starts winning. Same thing happened to this basketball player who thought he could play golf. They set him up the same way he thought he could play golf and they would let him win a few matches. And then they would go out and force HIMSS and there would be one guy there that he didn't know. And then, they get out to maybe fifth or sixth hole and start to raise the stakes. By the ninth hole, it's 10$20,000 a hole. And at that point, the person he didn't know that was the the plant, the person that could really play very well, and all of a sudden, bam they would start winning every hole. Uhhuh He got into so much debt he had to start throwing games. I saw one with my own eyes. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. He ran off the court and one of his fellow players smacked him in the back of the head because he knew what was going on The coach said some people involved in this game better watch themselves.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Wow.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418very apparent who he was talking about and what he was talking about. Nothing was ever done. He couldn't prove anything, he threw the ball away. So he threw it away again. Oh, so he threw it away again? Oh. With nobody standing there, three or four separate times.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Okay. Yeah. You gotta remember in sports, as long as there's gambling involved with sports, this is, this type of thing is gonna happen. money is too great. The lure. The lure, oh, and this is just me talking, this is my opinion, Chauncey, he didn't need the money. We know that. But the lure of, I don't know, the excitement. I'm hanging out with gangsters. You know what I mean? I'm part of this.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Do you feel like he knew who he was hanging out with? I don't know.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Absolutely.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Absolutely.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah. Tom, I think that not to cut you off, Mike, but
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418No, you good.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418say when they're about to cut you off. But essentially Chauncey was bait. what I mean by that is there's a lot of ego involved when you talk about high stakes, right? You got people who have money, but they don't have access. They don't have fame, they don't have popularity. But here's access to a guy who everybody knows. In fact, he went into the Hall of Fame just last year 2024, and imagine being invited to a poker game where Chauncey Bille is gonna be there basically what he provided was legitimacy for the game. Yeah, we losing a lot of money, you know what? no way Chauncey Bille is going to partake in something that's illegal because he's got a reputation for having integrity. We know he's wealthy. Not only that, he's prominent to the extent that he played basketball and now he's a coach. Right now, today he's a coach.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Right,
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418take a party in a poker game with him, and it's going to, whatever it is, whatever happened, it's gonna come. Like they said, when the FBI, they dig for, several years before they decide, okay, we're going to, drop the bomb on you right now. Because now they've accumulated enough information where they can, work their case, so to speak. And so my thought, and I could be totally off like you said Mike, it's really a matter of opinion is, and I hope it's not. True. Hopefully, it's just my thought that they may have something on Chauncey for whatever it is, big or small he's definitely intelligent enough to not just haphazardly get caught up in something like that. So now you're going to allow somebody knowingly to use you. To bring in big fish or whales as they And then you're Take part because you're gonna have tables that with your x-ray contact lenses enable you to see the cards that are being paid. There's also a machine that's set up to shuffle a certain way that enables you to. To kinda rig the deck, so to speak. If your hand is not up to par, there's a signal, whether it be, touch your nose or raise your hand or whatever the signal may To alert people that your hand is not sufficient or good enough to win. And the thing was thought out. It's definitely, I think. somebody said, I could be wrong. I hate to make comments about something that I'm unaware, but I think I heard it was the Gambino family. And there are, like you said, Mike, there are four separate branches of the Gambino family and well, five, but apparently what you've said is that there were four who were involved. It's hard for me to All five of'em would be involved.'cause when it comes to the mob. If you don't do anything but watch mob movies, they all want a piece, wet their beak, right?
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Right,
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418so for Chauncey. I got a poster of Chauncey and the pistons that he won the championship with on my wall right now in the man cave. And I come downstairs and I look and I'm, now, I'm just looking and I, when I see it, I just shake my head because it's no way, somebody as esteemed as Chauncey gets caught up in something like this. I don't know much about the other two guys, Damon Jones and Terry Rose, I know they're prominent players in the NBA and they both had great careers and Terry apparently is still a player. for Chauncey to get involved in this poker. Scheme. This Ponzi that you called it, Mike, It's just unfathomable and I just can't wait for all of the To come out to see how he got caught up, if he in fact got caught up or tied into this. Of course, as most people who are being charged would do, he's pleading innocent. He's saying that there's no way he would risk, his reputation his family and his legacy. By doing something illegal. But yeah, this is shocking. and you know what? It's also to the certain extent that we feed off of news a diversion from The politics of the day. There's always that although, when you look at it, this goes. A couple, few years. And so it began during the Biden administration. So you can't necessarily specifically tie it into,
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418right, right.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418about Patel, he's the grabber. He's a headline grabber anyway.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418About trying to get up in front of it and take credit for something that he really has no knowledge of, or very little awareness outside of what they reported back to him. As, with him being the head of the FBI, That's my opinion, Tom.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Well, I'm still trying to process the whole thing of him being the face. I understand here locally, he's a hero or a champion, I would say, here in Detroit. When he became the face nationally, that just threw me for a whole nother look on it. I don't know if it's what's the word? Sensationalizing News. But I also think what Mike was saying I don't necessarily think it's racist. I just think they needed a face that everyone could recognize To be the face of this incident. But I just can't get past the fact that it's been reckless of the media to make Chauncey the face of this incident. And then for him, they only get, what,$50,000. So as some type of influencer
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Right?
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418up and being at this
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Oh no, it was more than that. 50 was game.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418He received personally, Chauncey.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah. He received a whole lot of money for another game. He received seven 50. This is the Tom.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Alright,
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418one guy did lose
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Ow.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418or 1.7 million in one
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Right,
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418so
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418right.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Okay, so the criminals are getting this dollar figure 750,000, not Chauncey himself. Right?
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418No, that was Chauncey's.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Get out.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418One person won one, one lost, one and a half, 1.75 million. That was one person at the game.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418There were other people at that game that lost a million dollars that night. There were several million dollars in one game, and this went on for years. I don't know who the snitch was'cause that's the only way you're gonna get the type of information they got. To have videotape of what was going on. I don't know who the snitch is, but Dude, you better get off the planet. You can't, there's nowhere. They're not gonna find you.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Well, it was one of the people who was taken, maybe went to a game and decided to wear the mic and a camera,
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418I
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418don't know, not necessarily been a snitch. It could have a person who was railroaded, the person who was railroaded.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Could have been perhaps.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418I know somebody said something and somebody at some point was getting those microphones in the room where the game was
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418when they have
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418coming.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418It is easy for you to become complicit. The, when they had you by the go
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418That's right. That's right.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Tom, to your point about Chauncey yeah, we loved him locally and he accomplished a lot here, but he also played for other teams. In terms of basketball, he's on a national scale. He's not just some local guy who played for the Pistons. If you're a basketball fan you would be aware of Chauncey Billups for all of his accomplishments and the fact that he's even a coach and he's gone to the Hall of Fame, would indicate that he's more than just a guy that. and I know you're not belittling him,
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Right,
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418is more to it than just a local angle. I could see clearly, and particularly with his reputation and being somebody, a person of integrity, I could see how he would immediately become the face of the scandal. So he's a big fish. Seriously.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418right.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418I think if they had said Terry Rodier or Damon Jones and left it at that because it's the NBA, it would still be a big deal. but I guess I'm more of a local fan than a national fan per se. So the bell wouldn't have ran as loud for me if it was just those two guys. But when you say Chancy Billups the fact that he played here in the fact that he's done so much in the NBA, I would've recognized him as a national figure.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418All right. So none of us made it to a march or a protest.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418No,
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418but the outcome was that 7 million Americans made it to the 2,600 different locations across the country.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418correct.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418there were also marches of Americans. In other countries like Europe. So it was a big deal. That technically went beyond the 7 million. Just locally and then other countries were participating in the No Kings rally in support of the United States but where do we go from here? What do you guys think they need to do? It's not like it's at the level of a civil rights movement. At least I'm not aware of any true leadership in particular organization like N-W-A-A-P or something like that.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Right, and I think that's a big part of it I can't think of the group that sponsored the events that established the date and so forth. But you're right, I think the fact that there's not a specific leader that you can point to kinda makes. What would've been otherwise really successful protest or rally? less less effective per se. Because from my understanding, having 7 million people protest No Kings on the same day, is reportedly the largest. Gathering of people to protest an event in the United States as far as I know, or as far as what's been reported. When you talk about civil rights, obviously, Martin Luther King, Jesse Jackson, people like that
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418came out of that.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418They were the face of it and were able to unite and mobilize. And I think that, short of having somebody like that, it makes a really good statement. And those politicians who are going to be in the midterm elections and any elections going forward, should be aware that, some of their constituents are really not happy with the current order of the day. But I think that they've gotta gather momentum around the fact that people are unhappy and can't let that message die or dissipate because, you do it one month and then three months down the line and then it fades away. And you don't hear a lot about it, but you gotta keep everything else in the news that Trump is doing, you should also be able to, continue to report on the success of the movements and just keep it in the forefront so that people understand that 7 million people. It's small in terms of all of the voters that, that showed up for the last election, but that's still a lot of people who showed up and it was nonviolent. The Republicans wish it would've turned into something where, they could've said, Hey, look at these guys. They're radicals, they're defiant, they're violent. But it was a great turnout. People were nonviolent and they participated and they expressed their discontent. And I think that it's important that it's repeated and kept in the forefront because the Democrats need to acknowledge and recognize that you've got 7 million people plus who are unhappy, they also need to have a message around that, that they can take forward so when it is time to go to the polls, people will be
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418That's a good point.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418polls.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah, that's a very good point.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Well, you said 7 million. And then that's the amount that showed up The rally.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Right.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418but the amount of unhappy people was closer to 200 million.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Say that you right about that, Mike.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418It's only that 7 million showed up at these rallies. We need to do something actionable. Now I know that, the rallies, the protests that is ingrained in our constitution, our right to petition the government to express our grievances with the government, our right to have a peaceful protest. And that's what we did. We were within the Constitution.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Yes.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418So a fascist doesn't care about the constitution. They're looking at that, they shrugged their shoulders, it doesn't mean anything to them. It means something to us, but it means nothing to them.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418That's
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Absolutely nothing. They're gonna let you have your rallies, they're gonna let you have your protests. At the end of the day, they're gonna come back and continue to shred the constitution without actually calling a constitutional convention to change it. They're just gonna. Disregard it do what they're gonna do. So yeah, I support the rallies and the No Kings protest. And I do understand there's no, one leader coming out of that, coming outta the protest thing,
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Correct.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418like you said with the Civil Rights, we had Jesse Jackson and Martin Luther King, but that was for a specific,
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418I'm talking about organizations like the NAACP
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418right.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418kind of led those things.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418So why haven't the Democratic party jumped on this,
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418I might not be using the right words, but it would seem to me that they would rally behind these folks and maybe, have a out there, attending the rallies.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Right.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418In fact, there should be someone from the Democratic Party attending and speaking at every one of the rallies.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418That's true.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418But I didn't hear
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418any of
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418They slept on that
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418right. And so I don't know what to say about these rallies, except that the fascists don't see much coming out of it. We did it peacefully. Everything went according to plan, but nothing changed.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418changed.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Nothing changed. No one's consciousness changed. Nobody's actions changed. They're gonna continue to do what they're gonna do until you stop'em.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418it makes people feel good to attend the rallies and it brings awareness, to some people that weren't aware, but
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Does this make them go full speed ahead on gerrymandering?
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Absolutely. Nobody wants bloodshed, so the way to avoid bloodshed is to gerrymander If you're gonna have an election rig it so that one side is gonna win. And the Supreme Court has said it's okay to gerrymander for your party.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Yes.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418It's not okay to gerrymandered based on race.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Right.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418But it's okay to gerrymander based on your party and I don't like that. I don't think there should be any gerrymandering,
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418No.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418I don't see why the Supreme Court would say it's okay to gerrymander for your party.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Right.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418No, it's not okay to gerrymander at all, that seems to me, my opinion, that undermines the integrity of the voting process. I just don't see why you would allow as a court, why you would say, oh, yeah, you can carve up this district that are full of Democrats. You can carve them up into several Republican districts to help your party. No, you can't do that. Uhuh. No, you can't do that. Gerrymandering is the solution, because beyond that, it's no elections, which is gonna lead to bloodshed. Right? Fascists do not willingly give up power.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418That's
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418don't do that.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Right,
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418he went outta here the first time it was kicking and screaming.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418right,
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418kicking and screaming outta here.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418There's continuing the state now so that we just embrace, if you will. That Trump is gonna run again in 28.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah, it
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418That's
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418He's building the ballroom.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Is it Steve Miller?
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Steve Miller.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah. Right.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418he believes Trump will run again, they're just putting these things out there, just testing the waters, kinda getting people used to the notion and so that when that time comes, nobody's really surprised and nobody's, fighting against it. But in truth they're doing so much that's against the constitution and that's illegal, that it doesn't matter if, the courts say not to do something or they're doing it anyway.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418I have a question.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Who's gonna stop'em from doing what they want? Because they certainly haven't been stopped to this point.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Exactly.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418is complicit, they
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418C.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418don't seem to want stop him or slow him down and they took an oath to uphold the Constitution as well.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418So in order for him to run a third time, the Constitution would have to be amended.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Absolutely.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Can the Constitution be amended with anything other than a constitutional convention? That's my question. As far as I know, as far as I know, it cannot be amended without a constitutional convention. That means all the governors have to come together and go through that process. It may be possible. I don't know this. And this is where we need Mr. Wayman Hicks. It may be possible to amend the Constitution through an act of Congress but I am not sure about that.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Well, if that is an avenue then it's a done deal because
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418right.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418they've conceded their authority and their powers
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418You're right.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418so
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418You.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418now with them being in power and trying to continue to be in powered by the gerrymandering process they can just about do what they want to do. They've got all the branches on lock And of itself is really what's playing out right now. And like I said before, I said it again, I think I said every time we talked, once the Supreme Court was on board, it was
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Yep.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418a done deal,
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418You're right.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418are
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418A gone.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418It's
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Uhuh.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418That's out the window.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418The equation is outta balance.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Absolutely.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418had to balance those equations. This equation is outta balance. It's not gonna work.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418speaking of balancing of the government shutdown, people are starting to feel it now because they missed that last paycheck.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Right.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418And now we are day 27 into the shutdown, quickly approaching the first time Trump was in office where we reached 34 days, I think it was 34, 38 days,
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Right.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418And you're starting to feel it at airports, Mike, and you're starting to feel it in state budgets where Snap.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418and you going, yes, that's enormous
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418no idea. Was it Snap or was it another program? I can't remember. It was like 70 million. 70 million Americans are on
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418I think that's
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Yes.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Some type of food program.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Right. It's a million here in Michigan
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Right.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418if you look at it that way every state has got a million
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Right, right.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418I.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418then WIC too. The WIC program, is that tied to SNAP in some
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418I think
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418way?
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418but I
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418They were saying no, that program is going down too. The bottom line is, a couple of people told me who are close to the situation, to me, this is gonna go past Thanksgiving. The government is gonna be shut down past Thanksgiving.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418I believe that.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Fascist in chief. He can end wars, he can make deals all over the world trade deals. He ended this war and that war. He can do this, that and the other, but he can't seem to come to an agreement, In your own country You can solve stuff all over the world, but in your own country, you can't solve the simplest budget impasse.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Right.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Wow.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418you such a great man.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Oh yeah.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Come on man.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418How much is
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Come on.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418250 million.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418They re
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418is privately financed, so they say,
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418to 300.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418but
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418I
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418yeah,
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418mike. If you believe anything
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Huh.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418I got a bridge in Brooklyn. I'll give it to you for
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Right,
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418price.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418right.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418250 million though.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Plot of land in Florida shaped like a triangle.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418money. Come
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418hear that.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418right.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418on now.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418He
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418If they come up short or if they need any part Use his own The meantime, he's suing he's trying to get money from the DOJ,
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Right,
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418to,
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah. I did see that. Right.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Exactly. Exactly. So while the government is shut down, oh, you can still pay your contractors to, build your ballroom. It's not a good look.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Not
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Like they say we to you be building a ballroom during a government shutdown. And more and more people, even in his own party, especially those. Lemme stick to subject. The effect of the government shutdown on federal workers. We've entered the second week. This is the first full paycheck that they've missed, which was this past Friday. We're gonna see the effects going forward. Now. It hasn't really hit yet, it's gonna hit when you see more robberies from the stores. And they're not gonna restock those stores. Once the looting starts and it's gonna happen, at some point are going to eat
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Mike. But you're saying the federal workers are gonna start looting.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418What they're gonna do is stop working
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah,
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418That part, they're gonna stop working and they're gonna keep going to the food banks until the food banks don't have any more food. Then what are you gonna do?
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418You gonna do what you have to do to eat. You going eat,
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418yeah.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418believe me, you gonna do it.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Mr. Great solver of problems you can solve, you can end wars and make trade deals and bully people all over the world. Speaking of bullying,
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Argentina.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418right? Finance, Argentina but you can't. You won't even meet with the Democrats to try and solve. They've asked you to meet with them to solve the problem and you won't even do it.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418He could care less. All he has to
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Right,
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418he should tell Mike Johnson, Hey, open it, open the session, back up,
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418no.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418And
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418they're not gonna do it.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418do, to get them talking because you can't talk when the other side is on vacation. And he could simply because they've conceded their authority. You could simply really just tell them they could go forward.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Right. Make a deal on healthcare. Look, he said in his first term that he was gonna eliminate the Affordable Healthcare Act, which let's remember, that's their plan. The Affordable Healthcare Act is the Republican plan. So they don't like their plan because it was put into place by a Democrat, but he said, oh no, we are going to trash that and come up with something even greater.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Right.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418And it's been a long time, dude, and we don't see nothing greater. All you doing is saying, we going to stop this. You haven't come up with anything at all. Not greater, not less. You come up with something less, which is nothing. I don't like the shutdown. Nobody does, but they're right. You cannot take away people's healthcare. You just can't do that.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418here's the thing, it's gonna be a moot point because at some point they're gonna have to make the adjustments on the premiums. We're in an enrollment period right now, right?
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Right.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418at some point those premiums are going to have to be accounted for.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418I.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418if that subsidy is there for people through the Affordable Healthcare Act. Those costs are gonna skyrocket anyway. Right? Because,
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418yeah.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418gonna go back and say, okay, let's decide that we're going to come forward with this money. That's where they're at right now. That's the stalemate. They're saying,
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Correct,
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418we're not going to concede that point. And people still have to have healthcare, Insurance companies gonna do? Just sit on their hands and wait for you guys to make a decision? I don't think so.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Nope.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418paid.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Right?
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Trump is dead set on. It doesn't impact him at all. His cronies those congressmen and senators that concede, they're still gonna get theirs.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418It does.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418by the way. They're getting paid right
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah. But it is gonna affect 70% or 80% of the people who voted for him in some of those states.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Absolutely.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418And that's why I said if the elections go forward, Mr. Miller doesn't seem to think that they're going to go forward but if they do that's when the chickens should come home to roost. Should start feeling it. And as Mike said, a lot of'em are feeling it already. you've got the power to vote, so those people who aren't representing you anyway, why should you continue to put them in place and prop'em up if they're not gonna do the job that they signed up for?
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Right, right.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418If the president keeps his job, maybe they'll keep theirs
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Absolutely.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418based on what Mike is saying.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418That's part
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418goes hand in hand. No question. If he keeps his job, and that's the thing it's really just a job for them now and when I say that, not to the extent that they're putting in any work, but they're getting paid
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418benefits.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah. It was Warren Buffet, or I think Warren Buffet said it, and then Jamie Diamond might have said it over at Chase Bank. If we had tied these budgets or shutdowns to their salary, Wouldn't be having them.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418That was Buffet.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Yes. That was Warren Buffet, right?
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418No, you don't get paid. And also the healthcare.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418The healthcare, that's
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Their healthcare has to be the same as everybody else. You have to pay for your own healthcare.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Then stuff was sure changed then.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Was it a complete grounding in LA Yesterday they made an announcement that LAX airport was shut down.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Wow.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418were grounded because there was not enough operations
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418okay.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Couple
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418the FAA said the air traffic controllers, I don't know. That's what I just saw. The headline just said that it was shut down or the planes were grounded, so I don't know if it was a temporary.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418It had to Would've seen that this On the news,
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418yeah.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418still shut
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418But speaking of the air traffic controllers. Because of the government shutdown, there are people that are in training They got budgets to get paid while they're there, but once they come out, they're not gonna get paid.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418now they have to rethink their decision and the career path they've chosen.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Some people,'cause they haven't really started, they can just take the training, finish the training, and go look for another career. And that puts us back in a position where we're a shortage of air traffic controllers.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418That's a stressful job. And to Mike's point, imagine if they decide not to show up.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Well, the Department of Transportation working without pay. There are 10,000 people.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Okay.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Okay, without pay 27,000 and furloughed, 19,000.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Wow.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418the furloughed people are not working and not getting paid.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Right.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418The working without pay. Those are your air traffic controllers. 27,000 working without pay. Wow. And at some point, yeah they not gonna work.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Right.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Why would I keep cutting? How do you even afford gas to get to work?
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418I'm sorry. That's a serious point.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418but it's the truth.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418You gotta have gas to get to work. Now many of them are getting, a lot of the airports are giving them free meals,
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418I saw that.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418voucher to get something to eat while they're there. But, they gotta get there They can't even afford to do that. I've got travel scheduled for December wondering, am I gonna be able to get up outta here?
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418I saw Atlanta on the news about the airports on jam, As far as making your way through TSA.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Yes. I gotta get there
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418yep.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418two hours before your flight.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418And now that you mentioned it was an extra hour, then yesterday
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418right,
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418they tell you to come, so it was like instead of two hours, it's three,
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418or four instead of
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418hour.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418It is chaos right now And it's gonna get worse unfortunately.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418'cause several people close to the situation said this is not gonna end before Thanksgiving. It's just not gonna happen. It's gonna be a hard thanksgiving for a lot of people. And after Thanksgiving, that's when things are really gonna get bad. I had a buddy calculate how much water he's gonna need to last for six months and he's going to buy cases of water for him and his mother, right
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418to last him a good six months. Kling, how many gallons they need a day? You know how many bottles? He had it down. He's already started, getting canned goods, non-perishable foods, because he said, this is gonna, it's gonna happen. We can't really imagine how bad it's gonna be because all of our lives, nothing like this has ever happened.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Right,
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418and, we see it on the news when it's in other countries, how bad things. Get, I thank the Lord that, I live here and it's not that bad. Now for a lot of people it's about to be that bad,
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Yes.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418It really is.'cause when you don't have anything to eat,
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah, it,
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418when millions of people don't have anything to eat, that's a whole different situation.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418that.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418It's
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418I.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418I'm sitting here thinking as you're talking, Mike, I'm thinking about watching those history reels in the twenties where people were standing in line,
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Huh.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Back in the day, and it was like, wow,
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418right.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418that took place here in America
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418here.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418in the twenties.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Certainly
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Wow.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418right. I just can't imagine it'cause it hasn't happened in our lifetime. But we're about to see it.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Right.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Count your blessings if you've got a roof over your head and can maintain it right now.'cause too many people cannot do this.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418The cost of living in the United States has gone so high that people just cannot afford this. I don't know what they're gonna do. I don't know what anyone's gonna do.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah. Yeah.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418I don't know.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418It is what it is,
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418yeah. There you go. It is what it is. They have to do the best you can. With, what you have to work with. That's all you can do. the best you can with what you have to work with.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418What you have is nothing.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418right. I heard some guy, one guy said, I started from nothing and look where I'm at today. And this other guy said, you started from nothing, man. You started good. I started with less than nothing. He said, if I had nothing, I'd be a billionaire today. I started with less than nothing to get to where I'm at and I can understand that, you do what you have to do. What did Arthur Ashe say? where you are. Use what you have, do what you can.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Start where you are, what you have, do what you can.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418okay.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418That's all you can do.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418That's
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418know the best. Yeah. To do the best you can with what you have to work with. That's what you're gonna have to do, i'm got a bunch of canned goods I'm gonna give to our food pantry'cause I know they're gonna be overtaxed. I'm hoping, others can come through too, but it's not gonna be enough in the end. It's not gonna be enough.'cause we not just talking about federal workers, we talking about people that are working jobs, we call the working poor. They're working jobs, but they still can't afford, food.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418basic necessities.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Right. Basic necessities. And you're gonna cut that off. Wow, dude.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418The most vulnerable people are being punished Because you can't have your way. That is as thin skinned as you can get. Classic fascist move,
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Uhuh.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418And
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418All right.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418that's another conversation, Mike.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418That's another conversation, right?
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Canada across the wrist, because you couldn't stand the commercial that they put
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Right, right.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418from somebody that you've probably quoted and you've admired, reagan is saying, you know what? He's coming back from the grave, speaking from the grave saying, guy. way you're going is not it. Because they didn't misquote him in Canada.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418No.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418a whole nother subject.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Right.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418His skin is so thin that, if you step on his toe, if you say something against what he believes, he's coming for you.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_16441893% of Tariffs are being paid by us the economy's gonna fall.'cause people can't afford this.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Right?
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418I'm looking at some of these prices. I just turned my head, Nope. I can't afford that. what happened to cost plus wine shop, in Eastern Market went out of business. Because of tariffs Cost plus used. In fact, I would say 80% 70% of their wines were imported, and they were from small vineyards, all over the world that produced excellent wines and they weren't expensive. That was cost plus claim to fame. I got some excellent wines that I should have been paying 30 or$40 for 15 bucks, 18 bucks. Oh my goodness. Were they good? But he couldn't, once those tariffs hit, made his wines just as expensive, as anybody else. He couldn't absorb. He said, I'm not doing this. He said, I'm just not gonna do this. He went outta business. He sold his whole one day. He didn't even have a going outta business sale. He sold his whole inventory to Other distributor Took his money and retired. He's I can't do this.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Right, right.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Tariffs are killers because ultimately we are the ones that pay that money
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418okay.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418If you spent a hundred dollars on candy last year that same candy is$125.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418I'm sure,
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Right?
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418They'll send candy is up 22 to 25%, He's so smart, knows so much. And what did he say? Tariffs equal border security or equals protection. it doesn't. equal your people being poor and government having this big coffer full of money. And you're not using it for the welfare of the people,
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418No.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418now you're giving it to billionaires,
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418it's, less about him being smarter, even trying to be smart than it is about him just being selfish.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418correct?
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418He's
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Period.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418than everybody else. He's stronger than everybody He's just better than all of us and
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Oh, yeah.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418world. And so it's
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418He didn't care about, people who aren't billionaires. Because essentially that's what that big ugly bill is gonna do. It's gonna help Billionaires, it's gonna put more money into their coffers, I know Tom, you don't agree with this, But this whole administration is benefiting him and his family. They're getting rich off of it.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418They really are. If Obama did
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418even
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418go ahead.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418they're making in foreign governments, that's so blatantly illegal
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Right.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418other president or official would already be in jail.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418President Obama would be under the jail,
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418absolutely.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418If he had done half the stuff that Trump is doing to enrich himself.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418And
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Oh my goodness.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418Months in
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418This is why Trump doesn't like it. To your point Keith. He don't like anybody smarter than him, and he especially doesn't like black women.'cause all black women are smarter than him. All black women are smarter than him and he cannot stand that.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418No.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418That's one of the reasons he went after black women so hard. Remember he called that one woman overeducated? What the heck is overeducated? I've never heard that before.
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Gotta we've gotta, we gotta say some of this for the next episode.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Yeah, let's save this. Yeah. Edit that out, right?
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418I took the top off of that box. Sorry, Tom.
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418Okay. I'm back.
keith_1_10-27-2025_164418said for another episode
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418right,
mike-miller_1_10-27-2025_164418that's right. He got his editing
thomas-corley_1_10-27-2025_164418Oh, yeah. I do. All right guys.
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