ICE - Trigger Happy Policing

In this episode, Keith, Mike, and Tom engage in a spirited discussion about police conduct and training, focusing on a specific shooting involving an ICE officer and a woman named Renee Good. They agree that the shooting was a result of trigger-happy policing and poor adherence to standard law enforcement protocols and criticize the media and the Trump Administration for their portrayal of the incident. 

The conversation also touches on the importance of independent thought, the dangers of media control, and the value of math education in developing critical thinking skills. The hosts conclude by calling on parents to prioritize math education to help their children develop logical problem-solving skills.

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In this episode, Keith, Mike and Tom engage in their spirited discussion about police conduct and training focused on a specific shooting involving an ice officer. Woman named Renee Good. They agreed that the shooting was a result of trigger happy policing and poor adherence to standard law enforcement protocols and criticizing media and the Trump administration for the portrayal of the incident. The conversation also touches on the importance of independent thought, the dangers of media control and the value of math education, and developing critical. Thinking skills. The hosts conclude with a call to parents to prioritize math education to help their children develop logical problem solving skills. What's going on, Keith? Hey, can you see what's going on? Hey, Mike. Hey, Keith. What's going on, Mike? Hey, Mr. Tom Coley. Mr. Keith Pickens, you know what's going on. What's going on? Seven, eight? I don't know, man. You know? I don't know. Yeah. Seven, eight. You know. Seven 11, you're right. Seven 11. Yeah. Six seven is, so, 2025, it's all going on. It is. You're right about that, Mike. Yeah. Nah, we going seven, eight. That's the adult version for 2026. What's the dice supposed to be? The dice? Yeah. When you throw the dice, what are you looking for? Seven 11. Oh, 11, right? Seven 11. Okay. That's right. Seven or 11. That's right. Cool. You don't, what you don't want is crap. Right? 2, 3, 12. You don't want that. 2, 3 12. Okay. Gotcha. Yeah, you don't want that. Alright, well we did our, uh, review of 2025. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And that's not uploaded yet. Okay. I don't know why I mentioned it. I can always cut that out. Right. But doing this podcast is very cumbersome and involves a lot of production, but I feel like if I quit that we lose a voice. Okay. And, and I don't think all things that we talk about goes nationally. Okay. But one of the things I wanna talk about today is national. It's so much conversation about it that our version may be just as much as a version of someone else's. Oh. Feel. But I feel like we gotta put it out there, we have to put it out there our way. Absolutely. And what I'm referring to for those who are tuning in is I'm referring to Renee, Nicole. Good murder or execution, I don't know. Shooting. I just, I feel like that we have to talk about it. Mm-hmm. And I think we have to talk about it in the way we talk about things on this podcast. Yes. So, Mike, tell me, after seeing all of the different versions of video, of different angles, I should say, not versions, but different angles of the video, would say you, well. Like you said, it's been broken down several times by several news agencies, so I've seen all these angles and listened to different people in the industry. What happened here? First off, he did not follow standard law enforcement training, standard law enforcement training. No matter what agency you're working for. Uh, tells you, do not put yourself in front of a moving vehicle, and also don't put yourself in front of a vehicle where there's someone in the driver's seat so that the vehicle can move forward at any time. You're not supposed to do that. Secondly, you're not supposed to shoot into a moving vehicle. That's standard law enforcement training. Do not shoot into a moving vehicle. So at the point where he stood in front of, in front of her vehicle, it appeared to me she was not looking at him. She was looking at the other, I, um, fascist coming at her from, from the side. Mm-hmm. She saw this, her wife was trying to get in on the other side, but she hit the gas right when she turned her head. The person who shot her was in front of the vehicle. Mm-hmm. And she turned away from him. She did not keep forward toward him. Right. She clearly turned the vehicle to try to avoid hitting him. That's why he was just grazed and not run over. Right. So she did not turn her vehicle into a weapon. She did not weaponize her vehicle against an agent. Even her demeanor previous to, you know, that showed that she was not mad or. Shouting obscenities going at'em in any way. Yeah. She blocked the street. Eh, so what, you know, they know where she lives. If they wanna do something, they can, they got a lifeless plate. They know where she lives. Mm-hmm. Yeah. They videotaped her car, correct? Her phone, correct. Yeah. So the what saved me, what I saw was a poorly trained ice agent. Or a, a nice agent that I'm not gonna say he was poorly trained, he just didn't follow his train. Let me really tell you what I found on YouTube from another podcast that says, firearms may not be discharged solely. Two disabled movie course specific firearms may not be discharged at a movie vehicle unless one, a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with a deadly force by means other than their vehicle. Or two, the vehicle is operating in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury to the officer or others. And no objectivity, reasonable means of D appeared, which includes moving out the path of the vehicle. And it goes on to say more, but basically, I mean, that just says it in a nutshell. Correct. And again, there you go. He didn't follow his training. Right. And. What about the vehicle once she was shot? Yeah. She, that her vehicle crashed into another parked car. Right. I'm sure that person had to go to work or wherever they had to go. Now their vehicle is ruined. You know, they're inside, they're not part of whatever was going on outside. Right. You know? So anyway, so Keith, where did, where did he. Well, I mean, Mike put it in proper perspective. I don't think that Renee good, uh, was guilty of anything that was worthy of her being murdered. In other words, they were trying to gain access to her car, uh, and I can only speculate that caused her grave concern, and so she tried to drive away. Now, to Mike's point, the car turned. Away from the officer. If she had any mal intent, she would've continued straight on purpose with intentions to run this guy down. However, every angle that I've seen so far clearly indicates that, you know, not only was she not being rude or not being a problem, or disrespectful, she was actually kind. She had kind words for the guys. But once they tried to gain entry into her car, she tried to take off. And to Mike's point. The guy in front, uh, fired a shot and then he steps sidestep while holding his phone. Mind you, he never dropped his phone and he continued to fire two additional shots into the side where he struck her in the head and it resulted in her murder or her death. So I think that it's a travesty. I think that it's really indicative of what's going on in terms of the administration and how they're trying to, um. Just stronger the country into believing that everything they say and do is legit. In other words, that not what you see is what you get, but whatever they say is what you get. And so they want to convince us, the administration wants to convince us that we did not see what we all know we saw, which was for all intents and purposes, it was murder. Right? So I think they obviously could have handled it a different way. Like Mike said, like you said, they could get her address, they could hunt her down if they want to, or find her later at her resident, or if she's employed wherever she's employed, but it wasn't necessary to murder her or, you know, so I think it's a travesty. I think that it's a shame that our vice president, our president down Homeland Security, Christie no, uh, has all gone on the record as saying that, you know, the, that it was her fault that if she had been less aggressive. Or if she had complied that she would still be alive today. Um, I think that's a stretch. And so to your point, Tom, that's, it's a topic of conversation on many broadcasts on YouTube and other media outlets, and it's something that we need to deal with. It's just another opportunity for, um, Mike, I like when you say fascist in chief to stronger arm folks and try to intimidate and so fear. Our nation. It's just, that's one, one thing that we were able to see as it occurred. Not to mention there are other incidents that are taking place daily where, you know, they're not, there's been not, they're not public servants. Yeah. There's been nine shootings like September. Yeah. And by ICE uhhuh. Yeah. And I mean, just to even, let's say for instance that you don't. Shoot and you don't murder, but just pulling people out their cars, beating people, spraying mace, just doing all manners of things that are inhumane. It's just, it's indicative of, uh, Mike likes to harken back to Nazi Germany in places like that where they just rule when an iron fist, and that's just not what the United States is all about. Never has been, never should be. And it's just a shame that, that we continue to have to argue. What we see as reality against what the administration continues to paint with a totally different brush by making it seem like it's whatever they say. And we all know the emperor has no clothes. Somebody has to tell this guy that he's naked, uh, because he's going about doing whatever he wants to do whenever he wants to do it. And that's just not how we operate in our society. And we shouldn't. And we shouldn't. Right? As long as he's not getting enough pushback, Mike, that's what keeps me going, I guess. The nudge that I need to continue to do this podcast. There's no uproar and I've said that before. Mm-hmm. There's nobody taking the torch or taking the mantle and running with it. And I, I don't know if that's what we're doing here, but I feel like having these conversations that we do amongst ourselves and then putting it out there, you know, for everybody to hear, I gotta believe that. And they're hearing it from different sources. It is like an echo chamber. You're hearing it from different sources. But I just think our version of anything we put out on the podcast, I think it might be consumed a different way what you guys think to that. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. I think what people need are different resources and different outlets and different opinions, but what it all amounts to, I'll be willing to bet. That in most cases, not in all cases, but in most cases that the different media and podcast and so forth, they're gonna land on the same thing that we've landed on, that we believe what our eyes saw. Right. Okay. And for me, that's the point because'cause everything seems to be topsy-turvy. I've said it before, I continue to say it until it changes up is down and down is up. Okay. And if you tell me that I'm looking at the room that you're in, both of you guys, and it appears to be dark colors to me. Mike, yours looked purple, Tom. Yours looked like a dark blue. Um, but if it was Trump, he'd convince you otherwise. He'd say, Mike, you're in the white room, and Tom, that room that you're in, this yellow. And we can clearly see what color the room is. But the thing is, people have to learn to think for themselves. It's just in incred, credible to me. People can be swayed and influenced to the extent that they're convinced that they see something other than what they see. And that's that to me, that's the overriding issue that this administration can tell a blatant lie on its face. And you have people who embrace their perspective knowing that it's not true. Yeah, no, I think it's true. If they think it's true, there's something wrong with that. Right. We have that group chat that Mike sent us about John Stewart, uh, the Daily Show. Oh, yes. Or spot on by what you're saying, Keith, about Yeah. Uhhuh his truth or his interpretation of what's reality. Right? Right. You're saying un truth. That's not reality. Right. It's not reality. Right. Could look perspective here. You, Tom, you said there's the nine shootings. Yes. Have any of the, and that includes Ms. Good, right? Any of the other eight shootings been of an American citizen. Yeah. So now we've seen an American citizen. Gunned down by the fascist. All right? Mm-hmm. In my mind, that is the shot that the radical right has thrown to start a civil war. Mm-hmm. Okay. That's how my mind is working. Yeah. Mm-hmm. An American citizen was killed by a fascist regime. Mm-hmm. That's what I see. Mm-hmm. So in my mind, they bought civil war. Back up for a second, Mike. I think there were as American citizens in that shootings. Oh, there were? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm pretty sure. My apologies. Yeah, pretty sure. Okay. Well then there you go. Yeah, it is civil war. But, but even to your point, Mike, uh, and I'm sorry, Tom, I didn't mean to step on you there, but even to your point, when you look at Minneapolis and you see what happened with George Floyd and they looked at it and they took the temperature and they continue to seek places where this powder cake can explode Uhhuh, and so. In the case of Ms. Good who was murdered, they've decided to send even additional troops in, right? Yes. Right to Minneapolis. Yeah. To further stir the pot, so to speak. Uhhuh, because their wish is not that it's going to be peaceful, which the governor and the Mayor of Minnesota and Minneapolis has asked for people to be. But there won't. They want it to be a big powder keg where they can justifiably murder American citizens and say, see, this is why we're here. And so what he's doing is really playing a mind game. And we, and we gotta, we hate that expression, stay woke, but we have to stay woke because if you start to falter, if you start to just be apathetic about what's going on. Then at some point you may not know up from down. You may not recognize what's real and what's not real, because if somebody continues to tell you the same thing, at some point they might be able to convince you that this is reality. You know, I used to watch the Twilight Zone, and the Twilight Zone was all about. Mind games. Right, right. And, and they're, you know, not going too far off the topic, but there's a TV series called Stranger Things and there's some Stranger Things going on in that TV show. And if you let your mind go with the adverse side, decide that's not reality, then you could start to embrace it as reality. And so, you know, that's the thing you, we have to keep our sanity in line because the whole point to me. It's to drive us all. Loco. Tom, you asked about our Spanish. They want us to be Mui Loko and like a Besa. Okay. They want us to be crazy in the head man. Yeah. And everything that's going on is headed in that direction because as Americans we're not used to this kind of chaos, constant chaos. Things that are being turned topsy-turvy. Literally every day since he's been in office, the fascist in chief has been in office. There's something going on, whether it's dabbling in other countries. Whether it's disrespecting the United States citizens, I mean, it's just really so chaotic that it could really put us in a place where we just tuck away and not pay attention. And that, in a sense, is what he wants us to do. Right. That's danger. That's that's, I read something today. Yeah. I read something today about exactly what you said. Mm-hmm. And the danger is that we go to our safe spaces and you know, okay, I'm tired of this. I don't wanna deal with it anymore. I get that. I really do. Uh, none of us want to, wants to do what is necessary to remove fascism, which is entrenched our government now. Mm-hmm. You say none of us want to do what it requires. Correct. Because voting is not, that's not it. No, son, I don't think we gonna have, I'll keep saying it. I doubt that there'll be any midterms. Well, here's the thing. There might be midterms, but he sound like he planning on stealing the boxes. Right. Fascist. The only, only results that fascists still in boxes. Still in the, the, the ballots, right. Still invoke. Mm-hmm. You have to look at the history of fascism. Once in power. They do not get voted out. No. The only votes that fasc accept our votes for them. Mm-hmm. So no matter what the midterms look like. He is not going to let his power be usurped. Okay? That's not gonna happen. He has said Mike not to and, and hold your thought, but I'm gonna paraphrase. Essentially, he has said that his power is already unlimited and that the only thing that's keeping him from doing whatever he wants to do is his morality, which he has none. Which he has none. We all know. And his mind, which we know is going fast, right?'cause he'll say something today and either forget about it tomorrow or claim that he forgot, which is six or one half dozen of the other. Because once he says he's forgotten about it, that means he's never said it, because that's his truth. His truth has nothing to do with our truth. He's living in an alternate universe and there's a lot of people going along for the ride, and that's the part that's scary, right? I don't know when this train's going to slow down or stop so we can all get off. But it's moving really, really fast, man. And it's, you know, it's catching us all up in it. And it's not just, when I say us, I don't mean the us, I mean the world. Yes. This guy is so in chaos at every turn. In fact, as we sit here and we discuss what's going on in this podcast, I bet he's cooking up something as we speak. And that's the sad part because he's doing so much. He's daring us to be able to respond to all of it. Which one do you respond to? Which one do you get emotional about? Which one do you grasp? Uh, because the chaos is real and that, I think that was part of the plan. They may not have specified that in project 2025, but I can assure you that's built into the plan. Yeah. Get this funny you that,'cause Cuba gets most of its oil from Venezuela. Ne more. He's cutting that off. And like you said, what is he cooking up today? He told Cuba, y'all better make a deal and better make it fast. Hmm. That's what he told the Cuban government, you better make a deal and you better make it fast. Mm-hmm. Because you won't get no any more oil. Mm-hmm. Coming out of Venezuelan. Mm-hmm. Wow. Um, this gun road doctrine, he's trying to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uhhuh. But he's a, he's, but he's a figurehead. He doesn't have enough intellect to come up with all these notions. I'm not saying Steve, Steven Miller is brilliant, but he's working the puppet strings. He sure is. He and a few others. And so it's really sad to see, and he won't be the first president to take advice from other sources. You have to,'cause you can't know everything. Right. But this is just so blatant on his face that he just, I just can't give him credit. For being able to put together something so diabolical. I mean, he's a sick man, but, but this, uh, he's using a lot of resources, extreme right resources to do this. I mean, to say that civil rights has adversely impacted, uh, a white man, that the whole point of civil rights was to take away the rights of white men. That's so racist on his face that we're in a time and place where we, I mean, you had to go back to George Wallace or somebody like that. I guess when they thought America was great, who just would blatantly come out and say things like that and it's, you know, and maybe that's their truth. I can't speak. I'm not white, so I can't speak to that. But I do know civil rights was for the good. It was not meant to be disruptive or just like DEI that we talked about. I apologize, Tom. I'm all over the place because I know we're talking about Renee. Good. So we can get back to that. Yeah. But it's just, I mean, the chaos is real, my friend. And Yes. You know, to answer your earlier question. She was murdered. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My thing about the conversations about everything that's going on today, it all comes back to the Trump administration just doing what the heck they want to do. Mm-hmm. And I just can't, I just can't wrap my head around the fact that we have politicians in place that are not doing anything, not speaking up or saying anything. You got some governors who are. Softly talking about it, but I just don't understand what I mean. There's been protests, there have been protests across the country in particular of her death. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And you have the Chicago mayor talking about not having the ice. You had the mayor of Minneapolis, so telling to get the outta there. Uh, yeah, yeah. The sheriff of Philadelphia said, bring it this way, bring it on. If you want juice, bring it on. Oh, is that right? She's saying, you know what, we're not gonna tolerate it because what we're going to do. We're going to arrest people and we're going to hold people accountable who do things that are unlawful. And she said, if you wanna bring ice in here, we're not going to let him just run rough shot Philadelphia. We're going to hold them to account. So it'll be interesting to see if he holds her to that by sending troops or sending ice agents there. But she has specifically said, not here, and we are not having it. And so I, so I think a time that there are some. I think that it is scary for a lot and, and like I said, it's so much that it's a whirlwind and the plan was put into effect. Often say that they've been playing chess, you know, we played checkers for so long, it's chess now. Mm-hmm. And to be partisan, um, that's the way of the world where before you could be one or the other and in the middle, but at some point you come together for the good of the people and you make things happen that are for the good of the country and good for good of the people. Now, if you're not on one side or the other, unfortunately you're no good. I'd like to think that we'd get a semblance of normalcy if we get a chance to get some Democrats back in who could then wind back the clock, so to speak, and at least get us started back on the road towards civility and having and treating people in a humane way. Because the Republicans have no interest in a humanity, uh, anytime you have no compassion for somebody who was murdered in cold blood, I mean zero. That's a scary place to be in our society. You know, at, at some point, I think that even six months ago, you'd be calling for somebody's head. The guys that were involved with George Floyd, those officers, they're doing, they're serving time, right? Mm-hmm. Okay. They're, they've been held to account, but now if you're a Republican or you're a supporter of Trump, you can literally get away with murder. What do you think about the fact that the state agencies in the local police department are not involved in the investigation? That they are not involved in the investigation, right? Yeah. Because they're not being allowed, yeah. To be involved. They should just do it anyway. I think they are. I think that they are to the point that they're not being blocked, Mike, from having specific information. I did see where they said, you're not going to allow us to collaborate and join in so that we can get a semblance of fairness, because now you've got opposing views in terms of reality. Mm-hmm. Uh, so the feds have, you know, no pun intended, trumped the states by saying, you know what, no, you're not going to have anything to do with this. DOJ, the FBI, you know, they worked for Trump, not for us, not for the United States. Right. And so, in answer to your question. If it's a investigation done by the feds, then we already know because the president, the vice President, Christie Nome has al already come out and said, without evidence, without an investigation, they have evidence, but without an investigation, uh, that Ms. Goode was guilty in terms of causing her own death. Right. So, so what could you anticipate or expect from an investigation coming out of the a federal government? Yeah, you already know. Right. It's so, so I think that, well, that's good to know. I didn't know they were going to continue to do a separate investigation. That's good to know that they're doing that. Yes, it is. Good to know. Yeah. So the mayor had made a statement that, and you guys have brought it a briefly, that yes, 600 officers in the city of Minneapolis and that they have like 2,500 ice agents or federal agents did. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yes. You know, try trying to somalians. And Latino. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And then I don't know what may, why, I guess the question is, and Mike Cat said this some time ago, months ago, he said that they're not looking at Europeans, and I just don't understand why, again, nobody's beating the drum or the politicians in Washington DC are not saying something on a daily basis, on a soapbox. Of how racist this is. Yeah. After people of color. Yeah. Blatantly. And whether or not they're, you don't even know if they're citizens yet, but you're teenagers. I've, I've started to, I've started to hear you. You won't hear it on Fox. You won't hear it on CBS. Mm-hmm. Uh, they were, they were comedian said, you know, now you see. Bs. Mm-hmm. Right, right. Yes. Yes. So even though Ms. Now and CNN are, CNN typically leans left, but they also tend to be more moderate. They do look for bold, they do points of views. Ms. Now typically is liberal, but I, I've listened. I've been listening intently, and I'm starting to hear them call them out on being racist. And you didn't really need to hear anybody say it to know it. Right. Unless you're in denial. But yeah, you would think that it would come from more Republican and Democratic senators. You would think they would hold'em to account because the types of things he say and specifically the things he do are blatantly racist. Without a doubt, there are, without a doubt. There are. Okay. It's not that, that some politicians aren't saying anything about it. Okay. It's that the media is complicit. Okay. And not getting it out there and, and not, and not I support it. Right. Not put it out in, out front. Yeah. So you might see Hakeem Jeffrey say a little bit of something and then that city. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. You know, even though he said a whole lot more, but you, they're only gonna show what this little bit of something and they, they don't show anything else. The same with Schumer. Sound bites. Huh? Right. Sound bites a little. Okay. Yeah. We got a couple of'em saying something. Okay. Let's move on. I hear what you're saying, Mike, and I'm not a fan of either one of those guys. No, I'm not a fan of either one of them either. Yeah. I'm just using Right daily. They should be having press conferences. Right? And, and wait, they do. I, I can't say that the two of them have press conferences that, but there are press conferences with other Democrats and some Republicans that. You know, aren't in agreement with all of this, but they just don't get the press. Okay. Right. Gotcha. Right. It's, that's the bottom line. They go back to their averse and the network's not gonna put that on. Here's the fear, Tom, here's the fear, and, and it's real. And it goes back to fascism. As Mike said, if the state controls the media. Then what message will you consistently get? Right? Right, right. Okay. It's gonna have a slant and that's why they talk about CBS because CBS has now capitulated and have decided to slant their news. Conservatively. Yeah. We're in the home, the home of Walter Cronkite, who every during near, everybody would listen to him and he would state the facts and they would absorb it and digest it. And they would say, okay, if Walter said it, it had to be true. Mm-hmm. Because he laid right in the middle and he just reported the facts. And now journalism is so far removed from that, that if all the billionaires, the people who have the money are right wing and they have a specific point of view, and they dictate to their reporters and the people that work for them, that they can only relay one message to the populace. Then what are we gonna get if we don't have podcasts or if we don't have stations that still allow their reporters to express the facts? I think all of them really should go back and stick to the facts and the occasional talk show or interview where you want to have people come in and just like Jerry Springer, you know, you have one person over here doing this, and then they get middle and fight. But that was entertainment television, and a lot of today's entertainment television, trying to sway opinions we've gotten away. You know, when I went to school and I studied communication and journalism, they told you to stick to the facts. Who, what, when, why, how, uh, those are the questions that you ask, and you get to the point of fact and you report it as it is, but now you've got people who are getting in and they're expressing these alternate point of views, and it just depends on which side you're on, whether or not you believe it. You know, sometimes you don't even have to know the truth. You just have to hear somebody tell you what the truth is and a lot, that's a lot of what's going on today. Yeah. You know, I dare say that I've got some friends who I don't even, I don't even want to engage in political conversations because it will go south, because I already know that they're no longer thinking for themselves. They're, they're like Stepford wives. If you, if you've ever, if you've ever watched Stepford wives. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, and again, you know, Jerry Jones was very powerful in Jonestown Guyana when he got all of those people because of his cult to drink the Kool-Aid. I mean, people are, their right mind are not just gonna take themselves out at the whim of one person unless you sold you a story that's so deep in your spirit that you, that it's truth. And these people, you know, everything that's coming out of the right side. True. And I'm not saying everything coming out of the left is truth. We have to be wise enough to seek out the answer for ourselves. Uh oh. But when you can see something with your eyes and somebody else tell you that what you saw is not true, there's a prop. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Is it strange or is it a, or is it coincidence that Stephen Colbert, well actually all those guys are doing their, part of their monologue now talks about all this stuff. Isn't it strange that it's what you were saying, Keith, about how CBS, and that's where Steven show's at. Mm-hmm. It is been cut out. Mm-hmm. No, it's not strange. It's par for the course. It's par for the course. It's part of the influence coming from the administration. If he could have, he would've got out. Jimmy Fallon, Jim, what's the other guy? Jim, Jimmy. Uh, Jimmy Kim. Uh, Kimmel. Jimmy Kimmel. Kimmel. Yeah. Because they dare make jokes about him, right. Uhhuh. Mm-hmm. You know, his ego is so fragile. He can't even take a joke. Obviously, in the case of those comedians, that's realistic sarcasm. Yeah. And he can't, and he can't accept it because he's such a weak person. His character is so weak, he just can't take anybody to go against what he says and what he believes. Yeah. Right, right, right. So, I'm not surprised about Colbert. They had already said. Before they done, before they completed the deal. And I'm not trying to do this, Mike, that's yesterday's news, but before, before they submitted the deal, they had, you know, I think one of the contingencies was, yeah, we'll allow you to purchase CBS, but make sure that when you do, you get rid of Colbert. You know, well, the, the new, the guy was already friends with Trump anyway, so he was gonna get rid of Kobe. Well, that's true. Yeah. He was already, he was already friends. He was already friends. Yeah. Yeah, he was already friends. That's true. The only thing I can say, brothers, keep it real and keep your eyes on the prize because talking to you two guys make me know for sure, and I think I would know it anyway, but it solidifies the fact that I'm still on the right track. I'm still right and, and I still know up. From down. So let's keep, let's keep talking brothers, and even if it's not via a podcast, we can keep each other sane by discussing what's really true. Yeah. I have a closing thing and it's to the Save the children portion here. Yeah. My advice to all parents, well, I guess this is to the children too, but especially parents. Mm-hmm. Math trains your brain to think logically. That is the number one benefit of math. 100%. When we were in school, we were going, why do I have to take geometry? I'll never use this algebra. I'll never use this trigonometry. I'll never use this. You use it every day. You use it every day because your brain. Thinks logically you can see through stuff, sir. Nobody can tell you down is up and up is down, right? Because your brain has been trained not to go for that. So my advice to parents, make your kids take as much math as they cannot stand. Make'em hate math. Make'em take it. There'll be better adults for it. Definitely more analytical. Yes. Right. And one plus one will always equal two. Speak two. There you go. Yes. It's hard. Yeah. They're gonna complain, but guess what? When they're in their twenties, they'll look back and they'll say, I'm glad you made me do that. I'm glad you know, I had some classes. I hated them at cas in high school and. At one particular class, Ms. Branch, this was chemistry you had to learn in order to pass that class. I was an advanced class and I was a sophomore. I was in there with juniors and seniors, and when I walked in I didn't know not one person in there, and they all looked at me real funny. And yeah, for the first half of that semester, I failed every quiz, every test. I'm telling you, I was horrible. I am so glad that I was forced to take that class because I ended up. In order to pass chemistry, you had to learn to balance an equation, which means that you had to learn the atomic weights of that periodic table, and you had to know it by heart. You had to do it. My counselors and everybody knew I could do it, but I'm like, I'm not doing that. You know? And that's, that's what parents, that's what your kids are gonna do. I don't want this. I don't want. Mm-hmm. You know, and I failed. I failed every single test, every single quiz during that first semester came back and I started, I over Christmas break, I learned that periodic two, I buckled down and did what I had to do and came back and started passing my quizzes and my tests. Bringing my grade up and it, it was to the point where on the final I had to score 100% order to pass the class. Wow. Now Ms. Branch had the habit. Oh, she gonna call your grade out. And she always starts with the hottest and works down to the lowest. So my name wasn't first I knew I was done. I was like, oh man. And they kept looking back at me, you know,'cause I would sit right and everybody looking at me like. You know these are juniors and seniors and then she goes, she gets down and we had the one person, Mr. Miller, just like that. This is how she talk. Mr. Miller scored 100 pro help my paper up for them to see and you know you gotta walk up to get your paper right. I walked mine. They all looking at me, all these Junior just saying, just knew I had failed. Just blew. I said, because I, I didn't believe him much. No. All you had, you have to do it. You have to do it. It trained my brain to think logically. Mm-hmm. And from that, when you do something like that, you are invincible. You can take on the world because you just scored a hundred percent on the hardest chemistry class at cast tech. Nobody had done that semester anyway. Mm-hmm. Right. I didn't. Here I was a sophomore. Couldn't stand chemistry. I never took another chemistry class after that leaving. I didn't do it. And I begged to get out of it and they wouldn't let me out.'cause you know you had your drops in ads, you know? Nope. They wouldn't let me out. Well, that's why I call you M Square. Didn't, I never knew that story. Yeah. But my point of the story is your child will be better parents who are listening. It's gonna hurt. They're gonna come home crying. I was mad at my mother and finally she said, Mike, just do the best you can. Right? Okay. Just do the best you can. I'll accept it however it comes out. Mm-hmm. Give it in that table. I say it your best shit. Right? Yeah. Right. I learned that periodic table. Mm-hmm. And I scored a hundred percent on that. Mm-hmm. Final exam. But I have to do it. You know, I knew I scored pretty high, but woo, I didn't think I had scored a hundred. And when I got it I was like, yeah, you make a powerful point. Mike. I think that's a strong wrap up in terms of just, uh, having critical and analytical thinking capacity. Right. And it is rooted in math and Right. You know, communication obviously is important. Reading is important, but in terms of just analytical and critical thinking. Math is definitely required and so I salute you and I agree. I joined, I joined with you on suggesting to the parents or anybody listening that certainly math is critical and it's never a situation where you look at it and say, you know what? I'll never use that. It's not important because the fact of the matter is, it's very important. You use it every day. You don't even, you don't even think in know, but your brain is using those critical thinking, those problem solving skills that you learned. Mm-hmm. Right. To, to think logically, oh no, that's not gonna work. And see, that's not gonna work and mm-hmm. You know, that's what you do. So, oh, well, that's all I got. Well, that's, that's a good note to end on. All right. All right. Well, guys. All righty. Yes, sir. I'm happy. That's all the time we have this week. Be sure to hit the follow button to receive a notification when we upload a new episode. To learn more about today's topics, go to the show description. 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