The Public Records Officer Podcast
The Public Records Officer Podcast
Fighting for the People’s Right to Know.
From public records battles to quiet cover-ups, from deleted chats to documents they hoped you’d never see... The Public Records Officer Podcast (PROP) exposes the ways power hides from the people it serves.
Hosted by open government advocate, a former elected official, state government public information officer and communications director Jamie Nixon, this show pulls back the curtain on the tactics used by public agencies to avoid transparency, and highlights the citizens, journalists, and legal warriors fighting back.
Season One investigates the ontologically shocking story of how Washington State agencies used Microsoft Teams to automatically delete public records after just seven days, raising questions of legality, accountability, and who gets to decide what the public has a right to see.
Each episode blends documents, depositions, interviews, and digital trails with sharp commentary and a sense of civic urgency. Whether it’s a modified invoice, redacted emails, or a policy crafted to vanish before a subpoena hits... The PROP is here to shine a light where the law demands it.
Featuring interviews with journalists, attorneys, and the officials who tried to sound the alarm before it was too late.
The truth doesn’t expire in seven days.
The Public Records Officer Podcast
Ep. 11 They Didn't Ask For Slack Chats
In this episode, we return to a recurring pattern in Washington’s public records system: agencies only search what you name — and quietly celebrate when you don’t.
First, an update on PRR 24-530. WaTech has now formally closed the request while falsely claiming they produced the live DAUG meeting chats. They didn’t. What they provided were full-length recordings with a few seconds of chat accidentally visible on screen — not exported chats, not searchable text, and not compliant production. That contradiction is now locked on the record.
Then we turn to the Office of Insurance Commissioner, where internal emails show staff openly relieved that their work chats were in Slack, a platform the requester didn’t explicitly name, punctuated by an actual wink emoji. This wasn’t an accident. It was the strategy. And it’s the same strategy seen at DCYF (“didn’t specify Teams, so we didn’t search Teams”) and DOC (text messages only searched if explicitly requested).
This is not ambiguity. It is intent:
Search narrowly. Delete quickly. Deny accountability.
Finally, I’m joined by Bill Lucia, editor of the Washington State Standard, for a conversation about Governor Bob Ferguson’s increasingly closed-door approach to governing — from withheld schedules to centralized message control to the absence of unscripted press availability since the Teams deletion suspension quietly expired.
Additional Links...
Attorney General Nick Brown announces changes to the AG's Model Rules on Public Disclosure
Two Pieces by Bill Lucia:
Known unknowns in Bob Ferguson's Olympia
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