The Public Records Officer Podcast
The Public Records Officer Podcast
Fighting for the People’s Right to Know.
From public records battles to quiet cover-ups, from deleted chats to documents they hoped you’d never see... The Public Records Officer Podcast (PROP) exposes the ways power hides from the people it serves.
Hosted by open government advocate, a former elected official, state government public information officer and communications director Jamie Nixon, this show pulls back the curtain on the tactics used by public agencies to avoid transparency, and highlights the citizens, journalists, and legal warriors fighting back.
Season One investigates the ontologically shocking story of how Washington State agencies used Microsoft Teams to automatically delete public records after just seven days, raising questions of legality, accountability, and who gets to decide what the public has a right to see.
Each episode blends documents, depositions, interviews, and digital trails with sharp commentary and a sense of civic urgency. Whether it’s a modified invoice, redacted emails, or a policy crafted to vanish before a subpoena hits... The PROP is here to shine a light where the law demands it.
Featuring interviews with journalists, attorneys, and the officials who tried to sound the alarm before it was too late.
The truth doesn’t expire in seven days.
The Public Records Officer Podcast
Ep. 20 DOL 2: Delete Another Day
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Episode 20 continues our two-part look at the Washington Department of Licensing’s Administrative Law Office.
In Part One, we covered the February 12, 2025 Teams chat where DOL hearing examiners discussed petitioners, attorneys, hearing tactics, order language, and a joke about hitting an attorney with a car hard enough to hospitalize him. Five days later, Governor Bob Ferguson suspended Washington’s automatic deletion of Teams chats.
Now, in “Delete Another Day,” we look at what happened after those records survived.
The records show DOL’s Administrative Law Office reacting not with humility, accountability, or a renewed commitment to transparency, but with suspicion toward its own public records staff, talk of “double deleting,” “Delete Soon” folders, “do not release” folder labels, video meetings to avoid creating records, and a search for more “transitory” communication tools.
At the center is a June 17, 2025 email from DOL supervisor Audrey Ross that captures a deeper cultural problem: public records treated as a threat, requesters treated as adversaries, and records staff treated as traitors for doing their jobs.
This episode is about more than one ugly Teams chat. It is about what Washington’s auto-deletion culture taught public officials to believe: that the public’s business is safer when the public cannot see it.
Full transcript and source documents available at ThePublicRecordsOfficer.com.
Some voices in this episode are AI-generated to read from public records. The words are real.
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