James Everett Chasing Dreams: NFL Aspirations and Training the Next Generation

What happens when life takes you down an unexpected path? In this raw and unfiltered conversation, we sit down with "Route God" (aka Juice), a renowned wide receiver trainer whose Instagram following has exploded past half a million followers. While his football journey began with NFL dreams that haven't yet materialized, he's found extraordinary success training elite receivers and mentoring the next generation of athletes.

Route God pulls back the curtain on the reality of chasing professional football aspirations while simultaneously building a thriving business. He's worked out with four NFL teams and positioned himself in front of decision-makers, yet that final call remains elusive. Instead of letting disappointment define him, he's channeled his knowledge into becoming one of the most sought-after receiver trainers, working with NFL talent and developing young prospects.

The conversation takes fascinating turns as Route God breaks down his philosophy on authenticity in the social media landscape. Unlike many influencers who present carefully curated versions of themselves, he attributes his massive following to being genuinely himself—posting 6-7 times daily and showing all aspects of his life beyond just football highlights. "My page took off when I started being real," he explains, detailing how this approach has led to significant sponsorship deals without needing a manager.

Perhaps most compelling is his perspective on mentorship and the football mentality. Route God shares how he connects with young athletes on a deeper level, becoming more than just a trainer but a trusted guide through life's challenges. He contrasts today's training approaches with previous generations, advocating for tough love that builds character and mental toughness. Through stories of brotherhood forged on the field and lessons that transfer to all aspects of life, this episode reveals how football becomes a vehicle for developing not just athletes, but complete individuals.

Whether you're a football fan, an aspiring athlete, or someone interested in authentic personal branding, Route God's journey offers valuable insights on finding success and purpose when life doesn't follow your original playbook. Follow @Underscore_RouteGod on Instagram to see his training in action.

Chapters

• 0:00 Meet Route God, The Real Juice Man
• 8:43 Chasing Dreams: NFL Aspirations
• 18:15 Training The Next Generation
• 32:54 Social Media Success and Authenticity
• 49:10 The Football Mentality and Brotherhood
• 1:08:46 Dealing with Haters and NFL Workouts
• 1:21:19 Football Relationships and On-Field Chemistry

Transcript

Meet Route God, The Real Juice Man

Speaker 1 0:00

And we're back. It's a totally different one.

Speaker 2 0:05

Ladies and gentlemen, we're back, sports and Suits, with my boy Juice. I'm trying to tell you AKA Rout, god, the real Juice man.

Speaker 3 0:13

The real, juice man, the real.

Speaker 2 0:15

Juice man Got him drinking the God's sacrament. We're back, we're back. Sacrament, sacrament man, we're back, we're back.

Speaker 4 0:25

So Sacrament, sacrament man, here we go, that's funny though.

Speaker 2 0:29

But here I mean tell us man, tell us, what the deal is.

Speaker 4 0:34

I ain't nothing, man.

Speaker 3 0:35

Just getting flab staying clean, fucking hoes and shit. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 0:40

Standard protocol. You feel me Everyday life type shit.

Speaker 3 0:43

You feel me Everyday life type shit. You feel me Taking care of the kids, they taking all my money and shit, but you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 0:48

That's what it's about you feel me that's life.

Speaker 3 0:51

Maybe mama don't understand why I'm always gone chasing that bread, Because if I don't get it, who going to do it? You feel me so shit. Everyday life of a man Ain't nothing crazy. Life in a nutshell dude, he's doing what he's doing.

Speaker 2 1:10

But in case you guys don't know, this is Route God. You might want to search him up on Instagram. He's got a medium-sized following. He kind of knows what he's talking about A little bit. So kind of run us through. You know, we asked Deontay on the previous episode what kind of gave you that leeway?

Speaker 3 1:36

Like your childhood.

Speaker 2 1:37

What kind of brought you to where you are today, Chasing a dream I still ain't achieved yet for real.

Speaker 3 1:42

You're from the city, I'm from the crib this time of year. You know I grew up here and all that kind of stuff. But you know how I ended up where I am today and everybody want to know. Just like I said, like chasing the dream that still ain't, you know, fulfilled yet or unfold yet. You know completely, and it's like I'm doing so many other things that align with that dream, but I still ain't satisfied because I ain't put the shield on myself.

Speaker 2 2:01

You know what I'm saying. Well, let me ask you this Is the dream, what you're doing, or is the dream to the NFL?

Speaker 3 2:08

Yeah, the dream. I've always been to the NFL and I just feel like God gave me so much more because-.

Speaker 2 2:14

That's what I'm saying, yeah.

Speaker 3 2:15

And I'm like, I ain't going to say I'm not grateful, but I'm still like man, I ain't playing yet, dog, I ain't playing yet dog. Who the fuck are you telling you throwing to me? And I'm like bro, I'm getting so many, I'm going through with every league quarterback at some point in time, and you know what I'm saying? Their career relatives in college, almost every starter. Right now I'm probably going through with theirs. And the same for the ones who come and don't know me. It's like hey, where the last place you played at College? Bitch, you feel me I've been trying to get in, but you know how that shit go. And then the ones that do know, like man, you need to be playing with us, bro, like what's the deal? What you trying to do? I'm like nigga, I ain't never stopped trying to not play. Like you feel me I'm doing all this to still play. Just, I'm just cool with passing what I know my gifts, my abilities and everything down to other people and you're you're kind of kicking ass at it, appreciate it?

Speaker 2 3:07

yeah, you had a decent following, as we stated earlier, and, like I said in the previous, thing is like dude kids respect you, they love what you do because you're good with. You're good with them, man like you were that. You were that young kid at one point. We were all that young kid at one point. We were all that young kid at one point. We looked up to somebody and we want to get to where they're at.

Speaker 3 3:27

Yeah, yeah it's cool. It's cool being looked up to the kids from the kids and stuff like that. But I think I still resonate with them because I never grew up, if that makes sense. It resonates I'm a grown ass man, but I never grew up. I love when they-ass man, but I never grew up I love when they. Cheers to that. I love cheers to that. I love when they playing and coming to make jokes and horse playing I want to play too. You feel me that never left me, you feel me.

Speaker 2 3:55

Oh hell, we're going to hear some jokes when you pull up your shit on Instagram.

Speaker 3 3:59

That never left me, bro. It just made me feel good that kids see me as so much more than just a trainer or a coach or something like that. They really always come and talk to me about real life things. I kind of know the families a little bit. A lot, I'm kind of plugged in with a lot of people. When they come today, they in a circle, they in a squad, I usually know more than just that player and that's big to you know what I'm saying, and that's big to you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 4:26

You know them as an individual, not as a number on a jersey right.

Speaker 3 4:29

For sure, For sure.

Speaker 2 4:30

So you kind of see yourself as like an older brother, for sure, and I see the same, and you know I've had parents all the time, like you know. Thank you so much, even after this workout today, thank you so much. That was elite, right. There's not many 14-year-old kids throwing to NFL receivers, for sure.

Speaker 3 4:47

Or having the opportunity to the opportunity to, because we know a lot of 14-year-olds that you know, that can and that's playing and they're doing all this kind of stuff like that. But it's just, you know, presenting them the opportunity early, the ones that we didn't have. You know we had to be at the top of our game or going somewhere special at 16, 17, 18, you going to college to see a pro Right, Just in the flesh. You know what I'm saying. They were almost hard to find. It's like, oh my God, you play on Sunday. Guess who I just seen in the mall that's going around all week when we just walking around regular nowadays.

Speaker 4 5:23

You know what I'm saying At the house they just doing whatever you feel me and it's like I like how accessible pros are now. You know what?

Speaker 3 5:31

I'm saying that is something I want to give to all pros when it comes to this podcasting thing, when it comes to just being outside and everything you still got your assholes out there for sure, do you think social media is a part of that? Yeah, hell yeah, Letting a man on what it is. But social media can also, you know lie to you, you know what.

Speaker 3 5:49

I'm saying Like cap you down Like a lot of people be lying about you know what they putting out, who they are and stuff like that. And I be feeling like some people be like I'm private but I'm out there at the same time, like it's a lot of stuff y'all know. It's a lot of things y'all don't know. You know what I'm saying and I think everybody can be like that. I don't like the athletes that really be. Oh, I'm cuffed off in the dark. I don't really do this stuff Like why these who pay your bills?

Speaker 4 6:12

Right.

Speaker 3 6:18

Like I feel like you got to obligate. You do have an obligation to you know what I're doing your thing, but I always have, like I feel like a little give back or something like that. The ones that you don't have to do means a lot more to the fans. We know the ones that you got to do, the little jersey signings.

Speaker 4 6:33

Right, right. You got to be at leads. You have to.

Speaker 3 6:34

You got to be at leads for three hours and sign people. What about the ones you don't have to do? You know what I?

Speaker 2 6:46

Those are the ones that mean the most to the fans.

Speaker 3 6:47

You just pulling up like damn, he just pulled up and Rob.

Speaker 2 6:48

Markman, such a nice guy, a down to earth guy Rob Markman, that carries you a long way. Rob Markman. You make fans for life, not fans for that moment, rob Markman I heard this phrase.

Speaker 3 6:55

it was some shit. Like you, two people away, two or one people away from meeting your idol or favorite person you want to meet, and stuff like that, and if that's the case, that means that word about you is going to travel between them at some point in time. So once they do hear your name, he or she whoever that idol is, or that person that you look up to once they hear your name, what are they going to hear about you? You know what I'm saying. Do they want to end up pulling up your Instagram and looking at it and seeing more about you and learning more about you up your Instagram and looking at it and seeing more about you and learning more about you? Or is I'm going to tell you oh he an asshole, I'm done with it now? Once you tell me he an ass, I don't want to meet him no more. I don't like assholes.

Speaker 4 7:31

You feel what I'm saying, rob Markman? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 7:35

Rob Markman. So once you tell me your experience with Cuzz, I don't want to experience that shit. Rob Markman. Yeah, like damn, pull him up, let me see him. How is that that travels? So word is bond for real.

Speaker 2 7:46

Well, I mean shit. I mean you just got done off the air. You showed us Steve Smith Sr DMing you. I mean you got a hell of a following. People respect what you do. I'm still pissed off. You don't ever invite me to collaborate, even though I'm throwing the fucking ball all the time.

Speaker 1 8:05

I got you man Unbelievable. All right, now pull up your phone, do a story real quick.

Speaker 3 8:08

I'm telling you yeah, I'll tag you in the fucking story. I'm going to put them in there, bro. I promise you. Bro, I got a question here.

Speaker 1 8:15

So you said that the goal is the NFL right. So have you gotten calls from teams? Have they asked you to work out?

Speaker 3 8:22

I done worked out four teams. I done moved around, I done finessed my ways in being in front of GMs.

Speaker 1 8:31

So what's the biggest obstacle you have to overcome then?

Chasing Dreams: NFL Aspirations

Speaker 3 8:34

Them pulling the trigger, something I can't no longer control. Everything is done. The work is done. I've been in shape for some, while I'm at maximum capacity on how good I am going to get.

Speaker 1 8:45

So then, what's the message you want to send to those potential landing spots that you could be to, if you want to say something to a GM, a coach, an owner why they should pick you, Same reason why they should pick anybody.

Speaker 3 8:59

You know, I just take the chance on me.

Speaker 2 9:01

It gets open.

Speaker 3 9:02

Yeah, I can't. I can't say I'm not a person that go into anything and say, oh, I'm better than this person, or I do this and I do that. I put the film out there. It's out there every day and whatever you want to end up seeing, you, let me know. I can put it on wax for you to see and you just pick me because I'm a workaholic, I'm always come get it. I ain't never going to make no excuses. My dad didn't give me room to make none, so I never made none. So whatever card I'm dealt today, that's just what the fuck we going with. Rob Markman.

Speaker 2 9:29

Can you expand on?

Speaker 3 9:30

that real quick.

Speaker 2 9:31

Your dad didn't give you any excuses.

Speaker 3 9:33

Rob Markman Nah, and he did it. I feel like he did it the right way. I feel like a lot of kids growing up with this, I, because it's only certain shit we ever going to understand amongst ourselves. So what the fuck was we telling the woman? For you can hear me for sure, but then, when you hear me, your skill set is going to come out, which is nourishment. You're going to nurture me as your child and I don't need that. I need another man to tell me that's all right, but who gives a fuck, rob Markman?

Speaker 2 10:07

Right yeah, rob.

Speaker 3 10:07

Markman, we got to snap back to reality at some point in time.

Speaker 4 10:10

I understand you, my dog Rob Markman, at some point, rob.

Speaker 3 10:11

Markman, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 10:15

At some point in time we're going to agree. We're going to do fuck Rob Markman Jr. Nobody gives a damn. Nobody gives a fuck Rob.

Speaker 3 10:23

Markman Jr, Especially by no man. It ain't set up for us to be felt for.

Speaker 2 10:28

Especially not now.

Speaker 3 10:30

Rob Markman Jr. And I feel like it's a cop out, like, oh, we done, did man's wrongs for so so long, let's just make them feel like they matter and put acknowledgement here, and I appreciate it. It's not going unnoticed, like you know what I'm saying, but it's still like we still got to do that amongst ourselves. You know what I'm saying and it's just certain things you're going to deal with internally as a man. That's just who you are and who we are. You know what I'm saying as a people.

Speaker 1 10:54

Nobody's going to talk about what you did last week.

Speaker 2 10:57

Folks, you guys need to follow him Because because he not only route training and receiver training, speaking like truth about all this kind of shit. That's what I think drew me to you the most is that you're like me, man. You're uncancellable. You can't, yeah, you don't give a fuck, dude, I ain't never gave a damn.

Speaker 3 11:21

We're going I ain't had shit anyway. So what I got to give a damn for, think about it. All right. Who was in the media? Okay, the Sanders family. Love them, love all them boys, me and Deion Tite. We did a podcast, we had a career, everything like that. And once they're born, you got to start telling them that they have something to lose right away. Their last name is Golden, you know what.

Speaker 3 11:43

I'm saying that's great and I want to raise my kids up with that same type of vibe. It's like, hey, your last name is what it is, you got something to lose. Until me, for real, my last name was just a last name. I love my family and shit, but you get what I'm saying? It was nothing, so I ain't have shit to lose anyway. You feel what I'm saying? So having something not to lose made me who I am today, because it was just like what the fuck you going to cancel? I ain't shit anyway.

Speaker 2 12:10

Rob Markman. Well, it changes your entire perspective of life, rob Markman Most definitely, most definitely it does.

Speaker 3 12:16

from the start of it, when I started thinking like this you know what I'm saying? Like none of this. All this really happened like from a female. So I'd be like a female is a man's worst, best enemy. You know what I'm saying? It's like damn.

Speaker 3 12:29

you made me realize this about myself, you know, what I'm saying but that put me in a crazy place in my life and it's just like damn, I appreciate you because I needed to be in this place to get here. So it's like navigating and moving throughout those feelings and stuff like that. It's just like navigating and moving throughout those feelings and stuff like that, teaching you how to accept what come your way as a man and just grow from it and deal with it without being swaddled and coddled and all that kind of shit.

Speaker 2 12:55

Rob Markman, and how often do you see that with the receivers that you're training with? I mean you're doing bodybuilding. Are you doing any strength training with people, or is it?

Speaker 3 13:05

all Nah, that's all me. That's all me, it's just for me, rob Markman.

Speaker 2 13:09

Okay, so for receiver training. Are you coddling these younger?

Speaker 3 13:12

kids. I feel like hell. Nah, I feel like there's a lot of pussy shit going on. Rob Markman.

Speaker 2 13:16

That's all there. Fucking is man.

Speaker 3 13:18

Man, it's a lot of-.

Speaker 4 13:18

Rob.

Speaker 2 13:19

Markman and I tell I fucking love training with this guy because he'll fucking rip it.

Speaker 3 13:23

Yeah.

Speaker 2 13:24

He'll rip it.

Speaker 3 13:25

It's a lot of pussy shit going on. I done been killed on screens jammed to the dirt. Yo you blame that on the parents right Both.

Speaker 3 13:35

It's both because at some point, after parents got away, you got to be like all right, I see ain't nothing else like pussy in this sport. Why am I being this way? I just feel like every excuse that they can make, they make it. Every reason that they can say they can't come today, they not going to come. Every reason, oh, my leg a little bit tight, motherfucker you 15. You can't afford for your leg to not be. I don't give a fuck. Rip it off the bone. Nigga play Because we could not in high school practice.

Speaker 3 14:05

Oh my hammy's tight. Well bitch it. Better fall off for you to not be on this field when I call scout team.

Speaker 2 14:11

Watch his videos. He's not talking like this just right now. Dead ass.

Speaker 3 14:15

serious, Because the thing is it's like that's going to build the character. I can't quit because I'm a little sore Now, everybody a little sore. Oh, timmy needs to go to the chiropractor at 15? For what? At 15.

Speaker 1 14:28

Chiropractor $250 for it. Tell me that's a joke. $250 for just a 15. Dead ass serious.

Speaker 3 14:34

You take him out. Oh, he's not going to come today. His back is a little bit out. Well, that bitch better be broken half. Where is that? That's the football we grew up in. And then the crazy thing is the football we grew up in the people before us is saying we was soft as fuck. So I can only imagine, just like when I was hearing that Rob Markman.

Speaker 3 14:52

Yeah, leather helmets back then, rob Markman Football getting softer and softer and this shit getting soft, like from the training, from the preparation up to the game, to the game, like you know what I'm saying, all that shit getting soft. We used to really go the fuck in. Now it's like 45 minutes. He's done. What the fuck you mean? He done the work ain't done? What?

Speaker 2 15:10

did I say today hey, y'all want water.

Speaker 3 15:12

Yeah, what the fuck they need water, for they ain't do shit.

Speaker 2 15:16

The quarterbacks, the quarterbacks, they go. Shit, we've been running.

Speaker 1 15:19

The quarterbacks ain't been been doing shit. The football that you played in was different than the football he played in, because that's almost 10 years and it still was tough.

Speaker 3 15:27

Yeah. That was 10 years. Now I'm going on the sideline watching the game like I had 8,000 yards receiving in this bitch.

Speaker 2 15:34

Oh my God Dude. I think honestly like ours was like the last of the hits, the last of the ones like we went away with two a days. We had to get water breaks every eight minutes or 12 or whatever it was.

Speaker 3 15:48

You had to let the AD come outside. It's too hot.

Speaker 2 15:50

Yeah.

Speaker 4 15:51

Now you got high school guys. Hey, coach be mad as fuck.

Speaker 3 15:54

Fuck, you mean, it's too hot. Be mad as hell.

Speaker 2 15:57

Now you got high school guys. Oh, it's too hot to where we have to go shells.

Speaker 3 16:02

Yep, yep. Helmets, just helmets, helmets only.

Speaker 2 16:04

Now, it's nothing Now practice is canceled, man.

Speaker 3 16:08

once football started, man, we was four days a week. All past Some days. You got down, you get lucky coach, make you feel good. You in shells before the game and then shit during the week. During the season, we still got weight room lifts before practice. So I don't know what they doing nowadays, I don't. And then 7-on-7 circuit like ruling the world and shit.

Speaker 2 16:31

Thank you, thank you Thank you.

Speaker 3 16:33

It's doing good but it's doing a lot of bad too, because the motherfucker think everything shorts and t-shirts, and when you get real smackers on defense, it's a couple real smackers still being boring out there. When you get a couple, you don't know how to deal with it. You're like, oh shit, he hands on all game. Yeah, you've been on this pussy ass. Ah, ah, shit, no, no, no, you got to be hard today.

Speaker 1 16:57

You got to play a full four quarters of football is what coaches used to call it, are they?

Speaker 3 17:00

still playing that in the youth leagues.

Speaker 2 17:06

I mean, is there 11-on-11 anymore? Yeah, yeah, yeah, all that's going on, but I'm saying it's just a lot.

Speaker 3 17:08

There's spring, there's summer, there's a hundred different they doing.

Speaker 1 17:10

Football year-round. I keep hearing 7-on-7.

Speaker 3 17:12

I feel like they're doing themselves a lot of disservice. You need the development is leaving. You can't play football year-round, because when is the development? And if you is going to develop while you playing football year round, your mind my mind is never going to get burnt out, but your body literally can get burnt out.

Speaker 2 17:32

You know what I'm saying. You can do worse, more hard than good. Rob Markman, I don't know if I agree with that. I don't know if I agree with that, rob Markman.

Speaker 3 17:35

I feel like I need to do more hard than good Y'all playing quarterback though Rob Markman.

Speaker 2 17:40

Quarterback is what? 90%? What Hits Mental?

Speaker 3 17:43

Mental yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 17:44

We talked about it with Deontay. It's fucking mental. Yeah, I don't want to do football 100% of the time I'm on this earth as a kid. Yeah, let me play basketball, let me play baseball. All right, let me go play paintball. Let me go shoot heroin, what? I just want to see what y'all's reactions were.

Speaker 3 18:05

I said mm-hmm, I thought you were going to say let me fuck a bitch.

Speaker 2 18:11

I was waiting on that Heroin. But you understand my point is.

Training The Next Generation

Speaker 1 18:14

It's like your point is you're into hard drugs.

Speaker 2 18:17

Yeah, no, I'm not. I'm just kidding, this is my hard drug, allegedly, but it's like kids need some sort of outlet, whether it be football, whether it be basketball. Deontay said he played baseball. Did you play baseball, deontay Lopes?

Speaker 3 18:30

Jr. I was cold, I was cold, I was cold. My dad's so mad at me to this day. Rob Markman Jr he was shortstop. Deontay Lopes Jr dog, I don't know, it's nothing. Why do black people play baseball?

Speaker 2 18:45

This shit not exciting to us. You know what I'm saying. Listen to me. Spanish people and Asians have got it cornered.

Speaker 3 18:50

They got it all down. Everything is the Gonzalez Rodriguez Melendez.

Speaker 2 18:54

Mark McGuire or.

Speaker 3 18:56

Otonye Something All them bitches. Tatiana is, tatiana is All them bitches and I fuck with all them boys. I love it. I love them Dominicans. They look black. I hate baseball.

Speaker 2 19:06

Yeah now. Actually, I love baseball. We got our next question.

Speaker 3 19:10

I remember it. I remember what you mean, though, but it's just like for us the excitement that football brains dog.

Speaker 2 19:18

But no, seriously, not to interrupt you, but we've asked every single person that I've had on the Tailgate Talks the other podcast, melvin Ingram, alshon, jeffrey, bruce, ellington, clowney, all these other guys what did you guys do growing up? Played three sports Baseball, basketball, football, ran track. We did this, we did that, we did this. Yeah, we did everything.

Speaker 3 19:43

We did this, we did that, we did this. Yeah, we did everything.

Speaker 2 19:47

What kind of development does that do for you guys?

Speaker 3 19:51

I feel, like it gets you Once you realize that you play football.

Speaker 2 19:55

all the other sports are stepping stones to football, you know what I'm saying, but I mean it's kind of the same sort of agility and movement and Right or no.

Speaker 3 20:04

Mentality, man, a football player mentality, I feel like it's unmatched in everything.

Speaker 1 20:09

We can go into any-.

Speaker 4 20:10

Rob Markman Jr. Well, that's 100%.

Speaker 3 20:11

Rob Markman Jr. I think it's pretty close, other than taking UFC and boxing out of it, because they are the top of the top, but that's the closest next to them to the gladiator spirit. I mean we going nuts out there, I said take them out, meaning they gladiators To go in there and just fight your lights out, rob Markman.

Speaker 2 20:29

You don't think you're going to win in a gladiator fight.

Speaker 3 20:31

Rob Markman. For my life, for sure, but fighting for a sport, I'm not into that, rob Markman, rugby.

Speaker 2 20:36

Rob Markman Rugby cool, they want me to play that shit.

Speaker 3 20:38

So bad, but that's brutal too.

Speaker 2 20:40

I feel like I could beat somebody's ass into submission.

Speaker 3 20:43

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I don't just like to fight though.

Speaker 2 20:48

I don't either. I don't either.

Speaker 3 20:49

Even though I can't do it. It just ain't like you feel me and I ain't doing it no more because I paid for a gun license and I got guns, I still need to shoot. Welcome to.

Speaker 2 20:57

Florida. When the hell you going?

Speaker 3 20:58

to come by and shoot Whenever. Just stand in the front.

Speaker 2 21:04

I'll dodge them. Bullets. I got a pocket of awareness.

Speaker 3 21:08

Right, right, right Pocket of awareness is crazy.

Speaker 2 21:11

What's the mask?

Speaker 3 21:13

Oh god I can't let you just say that I got a pocket of awareness.

Speaker 1 21:17

You're the one who said you'd shoot him, bro. No, I didn't say that when you go and stand in front of him.

Speaker 2 21:23

The route guy said he would shoot me in the face.

Speaker 1 21:25

He got away and said it oh, allegedly you feel me.

Speaker 3 21:29

Interrogation room. That ain't going to stick.

Speaker 2 21:31

Seriously. Anytime you want to shoot, Let me know, I bet I'll put up.

Speaker 3 21:35

Tomorrow, bet We'll come shoot the world.

Speaker 2 21:37

After Jefferson High School tomorrow, let's. But uh, but yeah, man, holy shit, dude, yeah, I mean what a, what a rocket ship of like follow following that you've got? How can you explain to these folks how the hell did that happen?

Speaker 3 21:55

so it started off me being like after you know football, not even after it, just the cards that I was dead. I'll start playing. Uh, I was dang. I can make some money off this. I'm good at it. I can try to get sponsorships or whatever. Whatever. This is like 5,000 followers in or something like that.

Speaker 2 22:15

Rob Markman. How'd you go from zero to 5,000?

Speaker 3 22:17

I don't even remember. I think them 5,000 was just people I knew from growing my Instagram. That's been my Instagram since high school. A lot of shit got archived and stuff. Rob Markman.

Speaker 2 22:26

So it's always been around God.

Speaker 3 22:28

That's my Hell. No, that shit developed so much.

Speaker 4 22:32

I told you I started with the footwork shit, rob Markman, that's true, I started with that.

Speaker 3 22:36

So it was just like everybody called me Juice, so it was like Juice Footwork. And then I got with these people called the Foot Doctors of the world. They was doing a lot of footwork shit and I just attached my name to them. I got out from under there, started making my own shit and I really started Rob Markman.

Speaker 2 22:49

Like Gold Fleet, rob Markman.

Speaker 3 22:49

Yeah, all them. He was with them a little bit at first too, but once that shit started I started doing my own thing, got in my own lane, I had to come up with my own name. Somebody gave me that and I forgot who it was. Bro, we was just at a session one day. He was like bro, he liked it like Greek mythology, and we was talking about how I like it too. He was like damn, this is the god of that and that and that. He was like you like the god of rouse.

Speaker 3 23:10

I was like damn. He was like you, rouse, god Rob Markman.

Speaker 2 23:13

You know Greek mythology yeah.

Speaker 3 23:15

I fuck with that shit a lot, Rob Markman. You don't of it. You know what I'm saying. I'm like that is a kind of cool way to think about some shit. You know what I'm saying. That's cool as hell to have this, to have that and be strong here. It's like superheroes, superpowers, Rob Markman.

Speaker 2 23:35

You know anything about Greek mythology? Rob Markman.

Speaker 1 23:36

I know a lot about Greek and Roman mythology.

Speaker 2 23:39

yes, Rob Markman. Okay, really.

Speaker 1 23:41

Rob.

Speaker 2 23:42

What's Nike? Trivia Nike is.

Speaker 3 23:45

Messenger. Oh damn it is. I just seen that on Twitter.

Speaker 4 23:49

Any other questions, sir, yeah, have an IQ of 135, dog Hit me.

Speaker 3 23:53

Oh yeah, I got a certificate for that shit too dog. I ain't bullshit. He got a certificate. I'll be dipping dogs.

Speaker 4 24:01

I'm trying to tell you he got a certificate.

Speaker 2 24:02

I'll be dipping dogs.

Speaker 3 24:03

I'm trying to tell you I went to school for civil engineering.

Speaker 2 24:08

That ain't no fucking bullshit degree like psychology. Well, folks, on that note, we're going to refill our operation here.

Speaker 3 24:14

Right.

Speaker 4 24:15

We're here with.

Speaker 2 24:16

Juice aka Route. God, we'll be right back. We'll be right back. Like comment. Subscribe. How do you?

Speaker 1 24:22

You say it, you're better than Underscore Route God.

Speaker 2 24:24

No, you said it because it'll ring a better tune.

Speaker 3 24:27

Y'all bitches had to like comment. Subscribe on YouTube.

Speaker 2 24:30

Y'all bitches had to motherfuck shit. Yeah, and we're back here. We go With juice. What is this Route, god Dude? It's a little bit of the second one oh. God, oh God, oh yeah. It's the same shit you were drinking, just slightly stronger folks. It was apple juice. Yeah, mild apple juice.

Speaker 4 24:50

All right.

Speaker 2 24:51

So we're trying to figure out how to get our engagement up. How do you do it? What's your secret? Just got to be a real nigga. What if?

Speaker 3 25:05

you're white, still be a real nigga. What if you're white? I'd still be a real nigga. I know some real niggas that's white Dead ass Realer than some niggas. Theo Vaughn Fat. I fuck with him, yeah yeah, theo Vaughn. I like Dead Ender, oh, okay. I can't do none of the fake shit. My page took off when I started being real. I just let it all hang out, rob.

Speaker 2 25:25

Markman. But all bullshit aside, that's seriously like how Rob Markman oh yeah.

Speaker 3 25:30

Rob Markman. And that's what people fucking respect, rob Markman, and attack it. Though you can't like, I can't drop one weird thing. And then People play social media People never been. This is how I look at social media People that never been cool, never will be cool, and behind social media you can get cool. So now they get a little social media following, something like that, and they start moving real weird and they think they're cool and it's like you, lame in real life.

Speaker 3 25:54

You know what I'm saying and it's showing because you're trying to be cool on Instagram. You know what I'm saying. So I only post once a month, or I'm only finna. Post me in Cabo, in Mexico, and I'm on the. That's not realistic, nigga. You don't take vacations every day. What the fuck did you do yesterday? You know what I'm saying. And that's when your fans really engage with you, when they really feel like they living life with you instead of Rob.

Speaker 2 26:15

Markman, so you're posting daily.

Speaker 3 26:17

Rob Markman yeah, yeah, six, seven times a day. Rob Markman, that's the hardest part. That's what I tell people.

Speaker 2 26:21

Now, luckily and something that I found out today you edit your own shit. Yeah, All of it. That's kind of fucking wild.

Speaker 3 26:30

Everything, edit everything, shoot them, their everything. When you see the camera moving and stuff like that, I do got a shooter there, but he's just shooting. I'm editing everything.

Speaker 2 26:38

Well, give a shout out to who your shooters are.

Speaker 3 26:40

My shooters shout out to that boy, Mikey. Shout out to that boy, Carson, Y'all going to be going to drop the EIGs? I don't know them by heart but follow them boys.

Speaker 1 26:48

Well, let me ask you a question. You said six, seven times a day, yeah, so is that content that you filmed that same day, or content from like, let's say, a week?

Speaker 3 26:56

ago. Everything new. I of posting that I've probably been left videos out that have probably did millions and millions of views but I'm just not posting it because it's not fresh.

Speaker 1 27:07

So you're going through.

Speaker 3 27:08

CapCut Everything I got CapCut InShot. I got Premiere Pro on my computer and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 27:14

So after you're done doing your workout and you're going straight to the computer and editing-.

Speaker 3 27:19

I carry a little memory card thing around, I just plug it into my phone and edit it right there, bro. I carry a little memory card thing around, I just plug it into my phone and edit it right there, bro. You're fucking wild man.

Speaker 1 27:26

That's why the workout come in rack. I guess that's why you have, and you know what. I think this is a great segue for what we need to show the audience, which is 535,000 followers.

Speaker 3 27:36

And I still feel like I'm being black, but I can get some more.

Speaker 2 27:40

And we wanted to show one clip specifically 4.6, 4.3, 13 mil, 13.1 mil, and not one of them tagged SG5. Not one tagged.

Speaker 3 27:53

Blah, it's a lot.

Speaker 2 27:55

The tag's right down there.

Speaker 1 27:56

Where's Steven at, because I don't see him.

Speaker 3 27:59

Steven's in the background ripping it Steven is in the background ripping a lot of it.

Speaker 2 28:02

Steven, is this you?

Speaker 3 28:04

No. It's not, that's a black guy Might as well be me. I'm trying to tell you I'm pretty close to it.

Speaker 1 28:11

But let's look at that 13.1 mil just to see what kind of video it is that gets 13.1.

Speaker 3 28:18

It's a video of a shawty. She was walking in the park we was working out. She was fine as hell. Rob Markman Jr Damn, that was it. Yeah, rob Markman Jr and the whole gang. So what I'll tell you about being real bro, like, yeah, I'm a trainer, yeah, I'm that, yeah, I'm this and all that kind of stuff, but I'm a real person too. So you get my real person experiences in life. I can't just come give you one thing because I, I just did that shit for two hours a day. I'm not doing that shit, no more today. That's not who I am. You know what I'm saying. So I'm finna, go do so much other shit. And if you really my fan you became my fan because I do this. You gonna stay my fan because I do so much other shit. You know what I'm saying, because the moment that I stop doing this, you still gonna love me. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 29:00

Let you know the real me, but I think people that are fans of you and just anybody in general, that are actual human beings that, like fucking tell it how good it is.

Speaker 3 29:11

Yeah for sure. You always just gotta be real, be real with everybody, be real with yourself, and I think it started that love from the fans came started when I started being real with myself on camera, like you don't get a lot of people being real with their cell phone camera.

Speaker 2 29:23

Well, let's talk about it. So when did you become Instagram famous?

Speaker 3 29:31

Mm-hmm, I still feel like I ain't, so I don't know.

Speaker 2 29:35

Half a million followers.

Speaker 3 29:36

I think that's that ain't shit to me, because I know I can have ten times more than that.

Speaker 2 29:40

Okay, well, that being said. Okay, well, that being said, when the fuck I don't know I don't know, bro, that's slightly more than I have.

Speaker 1 29:47

I don't know how about this. When did you start making money on Instagram? How many followers did you have?

Speaker 3 29:53

So when I finally got to the making money on Instagram shit, they took the making money on Instagram away. So I ain't made a dollar on Instagram. That's fucking crazy I make money off other, like off the followers. Yeah, sponsorships, the deals all that kind of stuff like that, but, like through Instagram, they cut it as soon as I was eligible to make the money from it.

Speaker 1 30:11

Well, how many followers did you have when you started getting hit up by sponsors and paid advertisers?

Speaker 3 30:16

10, 20k, but that was a little small stuff, nothing crazy, you're getting $200, $300 a post or some shit like that. Now where I'm at $1,500, $2,000, maybe $2,500, $5,000. It's a company huge Because it's a budget for those things.

Speaker 3 30:35

So a lot of people you're looking like, damn, that's a lot. It's like, no, that's a million-dollar corporation. They have a budget for marketing. So I'm a walking billboard and he's popping right now. Put $5,000 in his pocket and put our product in his hand and let him do what he do with it so we can get some more sales. It's just textbook marketing for real. But now billboards nobody looks up at billboards, no more. We don't give a fuck, we in the car on our phone. So the billboard is going to be oh shit, Rock God, wearing this Not on the billboard is going to be oh shit, Rock God, wearing this Not on the billboard with it. Because I got billboards. I'm on billboards in Baltimore and Orlando and Under Armour factories and commercials and shit like that. You feel what I'm saying, but I feel like Under Armour getting more from me off my social media than me being on the billboard. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 31:20

What kind of contract is it that you're signing? I mean, is it dependent on how much merchandise sells, or you just wear the shirt and they're like here's a flat fee, you're done?

Speaker 3 31:29

Both you got contracts to where you're getting percentages of sales.

Speaker 1 31:32

You got contracts to where and they got a coupon code that tracks you. Yeah, you got all that.

Speaker 3 31:36

So it all depends on what you want. You know, I don't got a manager, I don't got a managing team. Got a managing team. This is all me. So I move how I move because it's me. You know what I'm saying. So certain things that I'd have missed out on, that I didn't know, like not didn't know, just probably needed some guidance on or some management, and it's things that I avoided because I didn't have a manager and shit like that, because I wouldn't have put myself into that deal and I told him, fuck that, you have a manager now no.

Speaker 2 32:03

I told him, fuck that you have a manager now no, doing all yourself. I mean, why yeah, why not? I've got this far by myself.

Speaker 3 32:07

I'm straight, I'm cool. When God ready for that big blessing to come, he'll send it.

Speaker 1 32:11

I don't need nobody in the way.

Speaker 3 32:13

How many sponsors do you have? I can't count them. It's a lot that many. Yeah, it's probably like nine. I do a lot of stuff for a lot of people for real. Under Armour is the biggest one, though, for sure. Why haven't you started a podcast yet that?

Speaker 1 32:29

shit expensive. Well, it doesn't have to be.

Speaker 3 32:31

Shit, I hate it.

Speaker 2 32:32

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Speaker 1 32:37

Where's the zen at? For sure it's a lot, though. That's the next one.

Social Media Success and Authenticity

Speaker 3 32:41

It's a lot, though. I want to but me with podcasting, bro, all the way up until I get to a podcast room or somebody doing one that I. I've only been doing the ones with people I fuck with for real. A lot of people don't ask me to get on their stuff, whether it's virtual, whether it's there.

Speaker 2 32:58

Rob Markman Dude, because you're a hot commodity man, Rob Markman, I do feel, but I feel like podcasting getting so.

Speaker 3 33:03

It's so wild.

Speaker 4 33:04

It's diluted, it's diluted, it's diluted, it's watered down.

Speaker 3 33:06

This shit is gay now Because it's not real. Ain't nobody getting over here saying real shit, no more. It's like Talk your shit, motherfucker. You paid me for the interview. It's like I got to be real. You feel me? So it'sga we not all supposed to agree on the same shit?

Speaker 2 33:26

Rob Markman. Well, this is my reparations, rob Markman.

Speaker 3 33:28

I'm right back.

Speaker 2 33:29

Rob Markman, I throw it for you. You come on my podcast, rob Markman, that was cool.

Speaker 3 33:32

That was cool Rob Markman. That's the deal, rob Markman, you feel me, I was cool.

Speaker 2 33:37

Rob Markman, and then he shares it on his story.

Speaker 3 33:39

Rob, you know how this shit go. We are.

Speaker 2 33:43

God damn.

Speaker 3 33:45

We been getting to it In a little minute. Man Gotta keep it going. How long?

Speaker 1 33:48

y'all known each other, for I don't know.

Speaker 3 33:50

Honestly not that damn long I don't think it's that long, but I don't know for real.

Speaker 2 33:53

We know of each other.

Speaker 1 33:54

We know of each other, but Like actually you have been friends Two or three years.

Speaker 4 34:00

Yeah, yeah, two or three years oh shit, nothing yeah.

Speaker 3 34:02

Two or three years yeah yeah, two or three years, oh shit, nothing. Yeah, it don't seem like that.

Speaker 2 34:06

No, well, because you know why? Because we speak the same language.

Speaker 4 34:09

Yeah for sure.

Speaker 2 34:10

We give a fuck about kids working. We give a fuck about what we're doing Right. We want to expand what we're doing and help people out dude.

Speaker 3 34:20

Yeah, for sure, that's been the language we've been speaking since we started it. For real, do your classes mix. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All the time we're through today, yeah.

Speaker 2 34:29

We just got it in the sun we're throwing Sunday.

Speaker 1 34:31

Because I mean he's wide receiver, you're QB, so I'm assuming that you bring the QBs. He brings the wide receivers.

Speaker 2 34:40

Where are the DBs? Rob Markman, he goes. Hey, I don't want anybody else throwing to me except for you.

Speaker 3 34:46

Yeah, unless they know what they're doing, because I'm at the age where I ain't running for no reason.

Speaker 3 34:50

Rob Markman, I would have run it for no reason days. Y'all should have caught me five years ago. I would have ran 30 of them, bitches, back to back to back for you. But nah, one and done dog, we ain't with the fuck shit for real. You know what I'm saying. But they know for the most part they be good kids out there for sure, and just them being able to be around us and us really coach them up and train them and be like, like you said, big brothers to them for real, that be the main thing, because they come out there and you can really see their eyes light up when they be out there with us for real, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 35:23

That's a good feeling for real, their eyes lined up so fucking much.

Speaker 2 35:27

Listen, I'm not going to. What do the kids call it? Glaze you.

Speaker 3 35:31

Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 35:32

I'm not going to kiss your ass. Deontay was the same chair. I don't think you guys understand the impact that you have I'm being dead, fucking serious dude the impact that you guys have'm being dead fucking serious dude the impact that you guys have to invite us, the quarterbacks, to come to Deontay's house and you're like talking shit to these kids. Not, I don't Not being you know. Motivating them, for sure, no, no no Talking shit, oh shit, we don't motivate, we talk shit For sure.

Speaker 1 35:58

That's motivation.

Speaker 3 35:59

Both. It is no, no, no, you need it, it's needed For sure.

Speaker 2 36:03

But the fact of the matter is that him talking shit, deontay talking shit the other receivers, it's big time. I'd be like holy fuck, look, damn, I'm in the show this is it. I want to go where the fuck these guys are at.

Speaker 3 36:20

Yeah, this is where off-season consists of. This is real work. This is how shit done. They seeing how it's the smallest thing. They see how me and Tay go up and it is one rep and we're done. It's like you going up there, you seeing the catch to the tuck, to the run after to make a move right out Realistic as possible.

Speaker 3 36:38

A lot of things is like I said, they letting a lot of things slide in high school, even college football now, because shit getting so money monetized with the NIL and shit. Now I done seen some college guys come back and they're top college guys and they're baby that practicing. When they come to the session, they like hold on, I need. I'm like nigga, what the fuck? You need a break for Now. You changed your age, you in college. You sad. Today they don't practice. I practice once a week, bro, and I be having the red beanie on, the red thing on, so they can't touch me. I'm like damn your ass, making 20 million a year, you already a pro, what you want to go to the league for. And they really don't for real like they don't they really don't beat.

Speaker 3 37:17

They don't got the same. I ain't saying they don't want to go. The goal has always been to go. I think the goal is to go, but they don't know, I don't know if I agree with that.

Speaker 2 37:25

I don't know I don't think they got that same.

Speaker 3 37:27

They don't got that same practice. Fire that we had a practice was games.

Speaker 2 37:30

Practice was harder than games okay, let me ask you this you have the opportunity to make six to eight $8 million a year for two years. So you make between $12 and $16 million a year. You have any interest in going to the NFL?

Speaker 1 37:44

You're not going to declare right, I'm still going.

Speaker 2 37:48

Yeah, your eligibility is going to be up at some point, yeah, but your give-a-shit meter is fucking shit. It's really low.

Speaker 3 37:51

Yeah, it is For sure. That's what I'm telling you it is. It is for sure so.

Speaker 1 37:55

I mean, it's basically the minor leagues of the NFL.

Speaker 2 37:59

It's not basically it 100% is.

Speaker 3 38:01

Yeah, shit, it might be a little bit above, because that's more than what some people are making in their lifetime and that's like even that get into yeah, the ones that even get into the league, like if somebody played eight years in the league and end up leaving with $15 million, that's great.

Speaker 1 38:15

Well, they were talking about Shador, right, and Shador. If he would have just stayed one more year, his NIL value was between $6 and $8 million. Yeah, there's $6 million. And he's taking a pay cut by going into the NFL.

Speaker 3 38:29

So why declare early? It was time for him to go to the league. I agree, it was nothing else for him to prove, or whatever he played good, he did what he had to do, so now it's just time for big boy brawl.

Speaker 1 38:38

This is a question for both of y'all. Now you guys are talking about impacting children and having that responsibility of actually showing up and you make their day right. Yeah, who did you guys meet when you were children that did the same thing to you.

Speaker 3 38:55

I had a couple people.

Speaker 2 38:57

That's a good question. I wanted to ask the answer First person was my dad.

Speaker 3 39:03

That's why I can feel the Sanders family for real, because my dad was my coach for a long time, but I never got coached as a dad's son. I always got treated worse. My dad was that dad.

Speaker 2 39:16

I want to spend the rest of this nine minute segment on this entire-.

Speaker 3 39:20

He didn't let me. It was not I had to do more because I was his son, just for him to prove the fucking point. Though, what are you?

Speaker 2 39:26

going to do to your son? I don't give a fuck that this is my son Same thing.

Speaker 3 39:29

He's in that position now. Just argue with my baby mama about that. That training you train him too hard. I'm about to give a fuck. He can hate me all he want. I guarantee you he'd be ready for life with this right here.

Speaker 3 39:41

My dad, as far as being there man, my dad picked every kid up. My dad paid for shit. My dad took us out. My dad did off a regular person, middle class salary. You get what I'm saying and my arguments with my mom that I done seen seen you doing too much for other people.

Speaker 3 39:58

Kids Like no, these the boys on the team and they need me. You know what I'm saying. They ain't got no uncles. They ain't got no dad. Bustin' Angels got in trouble. He in the streets. I got to go do this. I got to bail them out. I got to. Who is these two boys that's living with us now a while.

Speaker 3 40:15

I seen my dad do it all just out of love and being there for the sport and pushing kids that they wouldn't have got as far and they know without my dad's help and not toot his horn or nothing like that, but they know and they still pay like hell to do anything for him and shit like that, because that's what type of person he was. And there was another coach, my JUCO coach and receiver coach, coach Clowney did everything for us outside of football. So I feel like these people we talking about and we're one of the two people that we y'all we talking about me and Steve we really do that because we seen it done and the love we give them is outside of football, like everybody. There's plenty of people can teach you how to throw a football. There's plenty of people that can teach you how to throw a football.

Speaker 2 40:57

There's plenty of people that can teach you how to run a route.

Speaker 3 41:00

You want it from me because of the care I'm giving you with this. You know what I'm saying. To come with this, I'm teaching you five, six different things at a session we don't always have. The crazy thing is, when we get on that field, start talking about football. The conversations are not about football, no more. We're training. We're going to tell you 10, 15 minutes what we're going to do. All right, we're going to do this. We're going to release here, jump out to the left. The rest of the conversation is bullshit. We're talking about any and everything in the world Sharks eating people, all kind of like whatever bro, anything bro, we're talking about anything.

Speaker 3 41:38

Between those lines. Once you get there and we got the just down of what we doing we training, whatever, working on this today, obviously I'm going to get out there and explain. I'm going to show real quick dah, dah, dah Now. After that we're talking about things outside of football how we feel and it always varies how we feeling as men what's going on with your relationship with your girl, how your kids doing, what happened with this? Y'all ever been through this? Tell me about your funniest football story, like how and I'll let you go after this D. That's how you create those football brotherhoods, those people who's closer to you than your actual brother or sister or your friends that you grew up with a long time, somebody you went to college with for three or four years and you went to war with dog Rob.

Speaker 3 42:17

Markman you went to college with for three or four years and you went to war with they, closer to you than anybody for life, because it's just like I know this person, this person know me, you feel me and it's just like that time away from family, you're not with your family, no more. They become family.

Speaker 2 42:31

You know what I'm saying, rob Markman, and I want to expand on that. When I see you as a teammate of mine, you're going through the shit. You're getting your ass kicked in the fucking under the weight room, under the whatever it is. I'm like this guy's still working his ass off. I'm going to work harder, too. I'm going to bust my ass. People are watching me. I need to fucking bust my ass, kobe that's what it is.

Speaker 2 42:56

That's truly what it is. And Rob Markman Jr, goddamn Rob Markman Jr. I missed the fuck out of it man, rob Markman Jr.

Speaker 4 43:03

Yeah, yeah, yeah, rob Markman Jr, I missed it so much.

Speaker 1 43:04

Rob Markman Jr.

Speaker 3 43:05

That shit gave me chills right now I ain't gonna lie, rob Markman, you don't know what to fucking do. Rob Markman, brothers, be like bro. That shit just give you a different perspective on life. Running out on the battlefield with your brothers like playing the night. I think anybody who done been on championship teams or who done been on any teams and whether they played a lot or not, everybody remember every teammate, everybody remember know something special about every teammate. Everybody know what every teammate tolerates and don't tolerate. That's a family dog. That's a family Like hey, don't play with him like that, you know he don't play like that. Or this one, this funny, let's get him. Or let's you know what I'm saying. Or hey, let's all come together and do something for bro-mom's, he's sick. That's love dog. That type of shit right there that give you a different perspective on life, because no matter what any of us was going through at any time, we always had each other.

Speaker 2 44:02

Rob Markman and you know what. It's unfortunate that we just we can't get our shit together as a fucking country to where it's all the same thing, it's the same thing. Rob Markman, If America was just one big old, fucking football team locker room. Locker room, I'd be saying that, dude, we'd be fucking.

Speaker 3 44:21

But that's why I'm so good at, I feel like good at everything for real, because football taught me how to navigate life. So sometimes when I'm arguing with my shorty or I'm arguing with baby mama or some shit like that, and it's just just like I'm trying to instill these football, this football mindset that I have, I'm just I got to be. I come back to my senses and be like you didn't play a sport.

Speaker 4 44:46

You don't understand what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 44:47

You know what.

Speaker 3 44:48

I'm saying Like you don't understand, I get it, I get that, but I'm mad that you don't get this and it's just something that people that play sports it's a different level of discipline in every part of your life, whenever you want to. If he wanted to get in shape tomorrow, he could start because he had that discipline.

Speaker 2 45:05

You get what I'm saying, like I get it, you feel me. So it stays in there. Rob Markman, there's a discipline aspect of it. There's the other aspect of the whole situation where it's like I'm playing quarterback. I see this guy, he's all fucked up. He's got a whole situation. That Home situation's fucked up. Slot guy, he's all fucked up. Left tackle, he's all fucked up. This guy, he's got his shit together. This guy, he's got his shit together. The whole thing is just, it all combines into a unified family. And if my boy's got COVID over there, rob Markman, Not COVID.

Speaker 3 45:39

He swallowed Rome, you know how that go.

Speaker 1 45:41

Hey, we done the wrong one.

Speaker 3 45:42

You know how that go. Sheesh Steve is stupid right?

Speaker 1 45:46

No, keep going, Are you okay, brother? I'm good.

Speaker 2 45:53

We be taking a break. You good Good. I kind of feel like I was on a roll there for a little bit.

Speaker 1 46:00

You were saying if this guy was fucked up, this guy's fucked up.

Speaker 2 46:02

Well, this guy's fucked up for sure. So he's coughing up a lot.

Speaker 1 46:08

He's got a COVID. Ladies and gentlemen, Don't stop on my accord, man.

Speaker 2 46:12

No man, but at the end of the day, man, man if our country. I'm not trying to get political For sure, I feel the same way, dog.

Speaker 3 46:22

I feel like a lot of shit out here worldwide in a relationship, outside relationship, whatever Shit's so simple.

Speaker 2 46:31

If these fucking cameras heard what you say to me and I say to you yeah, I don't think they'll be yeah, what do you mean?

Speaker 3 46:38

I think people are fucking-. No, they'll fuck with it, but politically correct is not. You know how they're going to do us. I don't give a fuck, though I don't give a fuck either.

Speaker 1 46:46

You were just talking about how I don't hide myself for about anything. So why can't? However, he speaks to you and you speak to him. Why can't that actually just Rob Markman.

Speaker 3 46:55

Because it's just like we said on the other episode it's like we can not give a fuck at the same point in time. But Rob Markman.

Speaker 2 47:00

We got bills to pay Rob Markman.

Speaker 3 47:01

They still right, I'm telling you, they still. So it's like some things we definitely still gonna swallow.

Speaker 1 47:04

Rob Markman. Cancel. Culture is done.

Speaker 3 47:14

Rob Markman. I feel like saying he got paper already, and too his name again his name, their name. Look who you looking at their name, image and likeness. Their NIL is always going to be what it is AB a legend in every category. Now already he can go broke today and still get sponsorship deals because he's AB Rob Markman.

Speaker 2 47:32

He's making a ton of money on Twitter. Rob Markman, you feel what I'm saying so.

Speaker 3 47:34

It's just like no matter what, I got to do the work first, so I can't be canceled. Same thing with Kanye. Y'all listen to what he's saying. The motherfucker's Kanye.

Speaker 2 47:43

He can't be canceled is what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 47:45

What he did is what he did.

Speaker 3 47:46

Because when you want to cancel me, I'm just going to go back to the history. You feel what I'm saying? Don't forget. I did this, don't forget this, don't forget. I made this person and that person. You get what I'm saying, so I've made the next. So now I'm going up. I am in the ranks of making my name. In a certain way, it ain't done enough yet for me to just be saying everything. I feel like I'm up there now. Well, percentile wise, we talking about 100%, I'm about 85% all over, I'm about 85% up there, that 15, I save for the white people.

Speaker 3 48:14

for sure I save face for the white people that sign them the big checks I need. For sure they know that too. Certain shit. But when I get up there I'm going to tell them fuck them too.

Speaker 1 48:24

You think you're caring a little too much about race bro.

Speaker 3 48:26

Shit, shit. We're going to be real about it. We don't rule shit, I don't rule about it, we're coming back, back.

Speaker 2 48:35

We're coming back, folks. We're going to get real racial here, folks.

Speaker 3 48:38

We can, we don't rule shit. Yeah, I don't give a fuck about shit, I don't hey.

Speaker 1 48:43

Fucking run it.

Speaker 4 48:45

Like comment and subscribe. Comment and subscribe for.

Speaker 1 48:48

Sports and Suits, and be sure to follow on all social media platforms. Ladies and gentlemen, this is a phenomenal podcast show and do not miss out. Turn on those notifications, We'll be right back Hold on.

Speaker 2 49:03

We got to choose.

Speaker 3 49:04

I'll be back. I'm cool with it. We can talk about everything.

Speaker 2 49:10

We're out guys. Juice Mike, juice Mike, juice Mike.

Speaker 3 49:16

You already know what's going on. What was your question, Kev.

Speaker 1 49:21

What's the baddest bitch that slid into your DMs, bro? Why?

Speaker 3 49:26

the fuck not. I ain't putting no names on it or nothing.

Speaker 4 49:30

No no, no, we need names.

Speaker 3 49:33

It's some shit in there that came in there that I never thought I'd see ever in real life, like people, things that people are fond of and fans of, like up there a couple of them for real and it's just like, damn, I got this kind of pull, I ain't know. You know what I'm saying. It's been in some things in there, so it's like I ain't gonna lie. Rob Markman, do you act on it?

Speaker 1 49:56

You said that Rob Markman. I'm pleading the fifth, Rob Markman, they came in there, Did you came in there too, Rob Markman?

Speaker 3 50:00

That's the right thing to plead right, I ain't saying yeah, yeah, nay right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm pleading the fifth on shit, rob Markman, if you're's been around for a long time, rob, Markman, the man that's been around for a long time.

Speaker 1 50:09

Rob Markman, the man that's been around for a long time, rob Markman, the man that's been around for a long time, Rob Markman the man that's been around for a long time.

Speaker 3 50:15

Rob Markman, the man that's been around for a long time. Rob Markman, the man that's been around for a long time. Rob Markman, the man that's sure that you work on yourself first. They gonna come dead ass. My daddy told me that as a kid. That shit gonna be there Once you get everything you need, you get you a name and you out. That shit gonna be the easiest shit in the world. That shit gonna be easy because they gonna see you work on yourself, you discipline, you don't give a fuck to drop a bitch, you feel what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 50:55

I don't know if I agree with that. I think they look at the blue check and then they look at the how many followers.

Speaker 3 51:01

Rob Markman, it matters, that matters, but what happened when she gave me the number? What happened?

Speaker 1 51:04

when I texted her Rob Markman when you were in Columbia. Rob Markman, whoa whoa.

Speaker 2 51:10

Rob Markman, when you were in Columbia you're throwing a lot of touchdowns.

Speaker 4 51:16

That's what I'm saying. I don't know what to tell you.

Speaker 1 51:19

What James said. Bro, You're right. Yeah, I fucking deserve that shit. Your resume was exactly so.

Speaker 3 51:24

you did the work right To get the coochie thrown at you. Yeah, that's what I'm telling you Do the work, Sorry man that shit going to be thrown at you.

Speaker 1 51:31

Because how many SEC quarterbacks have played 47 games? Not many, not many.

Speaker 3 51:38

You feel what I'm saying? That shit just etched in stone for real, so that shit always going to be there. They're like yo listen.

Speaker 2 51:45

You got to change the subject. I'm going to get my fucking ass kicked.

Speaker 3 51:48

For what this old shit?

Speaker 1 51:49

Because Marshall's looking at this.

Speaker 3 51:52

Oh, we didn't say list names of what you did. I'm just saying list names of what you did. I'm just saying during that time you had a lot of options. We just call them options. A lot of options, bro. You feel what I'm saying Like probably more than you ever even can act on, you still got some options. You probably dreaming about Rob.

Speaker 1 52:05

Markman, and some of those options may have been ugly.

Speaker 2 52:07

I'm not dreaming about anything. I got my little sexy ass Russian wife, and I'm Rob Markman Now the Russian.

Speaker 3 52:13

Fuck me up though, steve. When you told me she was Russian, I said oh, this a real Russian though.

Speaker 2 52:19

She's all pissed off right now. She's typical Russian.

Speaker 3 52:21

You know what I'm saying. Just always see what I'm saying, rob Markman. Hey, you remember the?

Speaker 1 52:25

Cuban Missile Crisis. It was between Russia and Cuba and the US. Yeah Well, Cuban Russian, Cuba and Russia.

Speaker 3 52:31

You know what I'm saying and the US soil type and now we have a child. Right, what the hell is that going to be? You feel me?

Speaker 2 52:39

Time to put in a rack.

Speaker 3 52:42

Ain't this like your film one? The old rack attack? Ain't this like your film one? What happened to the other one? But I'm saying, since we on the subject, it is something I want to ask.

Speaker 2 52:51

Yeah, yeah, fuck yeah, let's rip All right, let's rip All right.

Speaker 3 52:54

So you in marriage relationship, whatever you know you in your shit, oh shit, what's? Something like you know what I'm saying? You older than me and I want to get married. You know what I'm saying? This shit, too, like Don't do it.

Speaker 3 53:05

Far as I'm not, but far as household shit like what you need, I don't want relationship, business or none of that. You know what I'm saying. Don't get me wrong. I'm just talking about what you need for a Steve to be satisfied in the crib, Because I don't think I'd be tripping, because I don't need much Women. Be the one that need the most shit, right?

Speaker 2 53:26

I don't need much Juice. We are eerie similar.

Speaker 3 53:30

Right.

Speaker 2 53:31

I don't know if you understand that we are very eerie similar.

Speaker 3 53:35

I'm just making sure, rob Markman.

Speaker 2 53:37

I don't need much either, rob.

Speaker 3 53:39

Markman, I don't need much dawg.

Speaker 2 53:40

Rob Markman, I want zero headaches.

Speaker 3 53:43

Peace yes.

Speaker 2 53:44

For shit show.

Speaker 3 53:45

Yes, yes, yes. I want peace all the time.

Speaker 2 53:48

Rob Markman, tranquility. Yes, rob Markman, I got to yell at these fucking kids for two hours every day.

Speaker 3 53:54

How I put it is baby, if you give me peace, I'll give you anything, because I can't get no peace nowhere else in this world. You're supposed to be my peace. So, baby, if you give me peace, I'll give you anything. And I don't know why girls be finding that so hard to believe. Like you think, I'm finna. Just I just went and stood in the sun all day and ran around and did all that for my money. And you think, because you feel what I'm saying, give me a piece of peace. You feel what I'm saying. I need a piece of that too. You know what I'm saying With that.

Speaker 2 54:24

I need a piece of peace.

Speaker 3 54:27

A little more peace. But I'm saying you bring me that. You feel me, I'll be cool with it. You feel me? They be saying, oh me, not romantic, no more. I think niggas really realizing that you ain't doing nothing for me. This is my check. I work for this because I'm not shit without this, because if I was a man not making no money, you wouldn't fuck with me. I don't care how cool, how funny, how good I look, you wouldn't fuck with me. So if I know I'm making this bread and I'm doing this type of stuff like that, you bring me something in return, which is peace. I don't ask for shit Because I know, god damn well, you can leave me tomorrow is the reason I don't ask for shit. You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 55:08

So once I'm there, just bring me the peace.

Speaker 2 55:11

I'll support everything else. Simple.

Speaker 3 55:13

Okay, long as're on the same page.

Speaker 2 55:15

We're simple creatures. Man, that's a bet. That's a bet we spend way too much time dealing with other shit that we don't have to deal with. Yeah, yeah, we want to deal with it. Yeah, yeah, and it also pays the fucking bills. It does, it does. And then some.

Speaker 3 55:33

Yeah, some more the extra shit for your ass.

Speaker 2 55:35

So what are we bitching about again?

Speaker 1 55:40

What are we talking about? I'm thinking I'm surprised neither of y'all said this. Like bro, just a BJ Once a week, that's enough.

Speaker 3 55:47

No, that came in.

Speaker 1 55:48

I thought that was standard we already.

Speaker 4 55:50

That was stick.

Speaker 3 55:51

Yo, you saying shit, you saying the unspoken. We already here. That's a piece of peace and a piece that's a part of my peace, Well it depends.

Speaker 1 56:00

I'm all worked up because I got all this nut in me. Does a woman?

Speaker 3 56:02

make money. She ain't got to for real. I'm that dude. I done seen my daddy do it. If you want to work, go ahead. If you don't, that's cool. Just make sure you ain't give me no goddamn headaches.

Speaker 1 56:22

Because now we got a problem If I'm doing all this and I'm still getting a headache. My wife doesn't work and she still gives me a headache.

Speaker 3 56:26

That's your problem. You got to go. You know what I'm saying. You got to pour that mug. You feel me. You got to drop the rod in that bed. Ain't nothing I can do? You just got to go. You got to drop the rod.

Speaker 1 56:33

You got to know you got to know.

Speaker 3 56:35

I manned up five years ago, dad. I manned up five years ago, man. You know how baby mama had a situation. She put my shit on the front porch. I said I had to either face that shit, grab my shit and man up or just go back to being a bitch ass nigga. I said, oh no, she got me fucked up. I said, oh nah. So I went and you want to know where this rock got all that shit come from Me, being mad as fuck and saying you got me fucked up for doing that. You feel what I'm saying? So you're going to come to that crossroads as a dude, when a female is really you're going to stand on being a man or you're going to go that way and just be a bitch ass nigga and tuck your tail. I ain't tuck my shit and now I don't let. And they did fuck me up, though, because now I don't let no girl play with me. How long were you?

Speaker 3 57:18

with her Dude, I don't A minute Shit since high school and then we was engaged and everything Holy shit. Dude there's yeah it was just certain shit you can't you know how, once you in, you be like I thought you would never do me like that. It was one of them type of situations. You feel what I'm saying it's like damn, you did. It's like now, I don't put nothing past, you can walk out that door.

Speaker 1 57:39

There's the door. Rob Markman Jr. Was it a black chick Spanish chick, white chick, black?

Speaker 2 57:47

Rob Markman Jr and now, who are you with? Shhh, shhh, shhh, shhh, shhh Sh? Rob Markman Jr, but that's-. Rob Markman Jr, that's incredible, and that's why the fuck we are what we are and who we are who we are. I fucking love it, man Rob.

Speaker 3 58:07

Markman Jr. Motherfucker broke my heart. That's why I'm listening. I'm telling every day this cool ass, glamorous, funny ass, quick ass, footwork, strong ass, body building ass. Nigga. Y'all see, today is a product of a heartbreak. Swear to God, rob Markman.

Speaker 2 58:21

Oh shit, rob Markman, I promise you, rob Markman. Oh shit, hold on, listen here, folks.

Speaker 3 58:25

Rob Markman, like I really, really a product of God, because I was all in. I seen my daddy do it early, so I was finna, do it all kinds. I'm like, damn, I got a child, I'm trying to do it right, I want one girl for a lifetime. My parents, 37 years, married, woo, woo, all that kind of shit like that. So I'm like, okay, bet, this can be done, it's possible. You feel me, and I put everything in and didn't hold nothing back and was super vulnerable and gave my all and it's like that shit slapped me in the face. And then when I go, do I fucked up? You know what I'm saying. As a man, you feel what I'm saying. I fucked up, but it's just like I fucked up for a reason. I ain't step out for nothing. You feel what I'm saying? I just be like, yeah, we can always.

Speaker 3 59:08

I can be a man and be like, yeah, that ain't never cool, but don't act like I ain't just because when we was good I didn't do it, so obviously we wasn't good and it was past getting back from. So I was just like fuck it. And I know women got this thing to where they want to be like, if you cheat on me, you don't love me. That's a lie. I cheated on you because I love you. That's how I look at it. Let's talk about it. I want to be here. I want to be here. I don't want you to leave and go nowhere. I'm going to go get this temporary fix so I can still be here with you.

Speaker 4 59:40

You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 59:42

If I sit in that dog, if I sit in that shit and just bask in it, I know I'm going to end up hating you. I got to go get this off somewhere else. Go be her.

Speaker 1 59:52

She ain't always this fucking though, Steve, what if she does it to you? You know what I'm saying yeah, yeah, yeah. What if she does it to you?

Speaker 3 59:57

though, once a man conquer your girl, he and she ain't no longer your girl.

Speaker 2 1:00:02

I agree. I agree a thousand percent.

Speaker 3 1:00:04

Once I conquered a lot of bitches and I done. Got they niggas deepest, darkest secrets.

Speaker 1 1:00:08

But what I'm saying is-.

Speaker 3 1:00:15

So you never pose a letter to a nigga to conquer world. It's certain shit we can do, certain shit you can't If you hang around a bunch of gay men every day I'm going to think you gay and you got no shit Okay then, and you might not be gay, but that's what it look like.

Speaker 1 1:00:27

So that's cool, it's a double standard.

Speaker 3 1:00:31

So your wife's a cuck.

Speaker 1 1:00:32

What If she's okay with that happening to her and stay with you, right? No, who's watching? Who's watching what that's? What a cuck is.

Speaker 2 1:00:42

No, a cuck is somebody.

Speaker 3 1:00:43

I agree, I don't know, no, a cuck is yeah we're going to cut that part. What the fuck did you talk about You're?

Speaker 1 1:00:48

a cuck at that point. Right, you got to cut it. She's a cuck Whether she was watching or not. She's okay with you fucking. Another bitch this, some white people shit.

Speaker 2 1:01:02

This some white people shit Diddy's black.

Speaker 1 1:01:05

Yeah, he's in the way.

Speaker 2 1:01:08

Sean hang tight. What the?

Speaker 3 1:01:12

fuck man. You fucked me up, sean. No-transcript.

Speaker 1 1:01:32

Rob Markman, the man that's been on the show for a long time, rob Mark yeah yeah, because, boy, what that got questionable.

Speaker 3 1:01:41

What the fuck are you talking about, son?

Speaker 2 1:01:45

I like you man, but this is country park Sports and squirts.

Speaker 1 1:01:55

If anything, keep that shit in Sports and squirts Jesus.

Speaker 3 1:02:00

Christ Sports suits and squirts. If anything, keep that shit in. Sports is close, jesus christ, no for real.

Speaker 2 1:02:04

No for real, no, that's just like we all got our own shit that we gotta deal with. Truth be told, no bullshit, we got our. We all have our own shit to deal with. How did you come up with Route God, and how did that transform into half a million followers that you have now?

Speaker 3 1:02:30

Rob Markman. I say consistency for real. Rob Markman I was thinking about the word I wanted to use.

Speaker 2 1:02:35

Rob Markman Is it consistency, rob Markman.

Speaker 3 1:02:38

Yeah, my dad never let me quit dog.

Speaker 3 1:02:39

And once I realized the shit can get done if I never stop. You know what I'm saying. That's why I never stop. Now I still don't stop.

Speaker 3 1:02:48

So y'all think six, seven posts is amazing a day. I think it ain't shit. I can do 15. You feel what I'm saying. I can be seen more. I could be seen more. I could be out, I could create more content. I could do it Because there'd be plenty of time. My life is walking content which makes it real for me. You know what I'm saying. So a lot of people can't do that. You know what I'm saying. So what it was was once I realized that, damn, everything I do is kind of cool and people want to see it. All I got to do is turn the camera on. They love everything. I don't only post football on my page. I do everything. You feel what I'm saying and I show you that I'm a real person. Football is my job, like one of them. You know what I'm saying. But I got four or five other different career paths, other things that I do that I'm actually good at, and they, like the VN, people always tell me like please just go.

Speaker 2 1:03:33

You're good at rapping.

Speaker 3 1:03:34

Yeah.

Speaker 1 1:03:35

Oh come on.

Speaker 2 1:03:38

I'm not going to be so on that until I get invited.

Speaker 3 1:03:42

You can't come to the studio. Can we hear a verse?

Speaker 2 1:03:44

Why Can we hear a verse? I'll fucking rip something.

Speaker 3 1:03:47

What Both of y'all Fuck? No, you're not hearing. No shit like that. I got shit out. Y'all going to go look at bitches on Spotify, apple, all that kind of shit. You know what I'm saying? We can go on YouTube. Go to YouTube. Go to my page. What the hell is Sotoo?

Speaker 1 1:04:06

We're in China, we're somewhere, sotoo oh shit. Youtube. Okay, go to Rock God.

Speaker 3 1:04:13

I don't know that. I ain't heard no sound all day Type in Rock God.

Speaker 2 1:04:21

But where did?

Speaker 3 1:04:22

route guide come from Rob Markman. I told you the Greek mythology shit, rob Markman, somebody just gave me the name. Rob Markman. Right here, rob Markman. Nah, go to videos. Rob Markman. Think the last shit Rob Markman 4-Wild Posted Rob Markman. Go to this one. Right here, rob Markman. Why would I, rob Markman? Why would I Go?

Speaker 1 1:04:35

back. Oh okay, all right, so go back. Boys got fucking CT. You heard me? That's it, yo, dog, I'm 12, deep man, 12.

Speaker 3 1:04:46

12 deep. What Fucking white calls, I ain't know, we can't hear it.

Speaker 1 1:04:54

Actually you're not going to be able to. I haven't fixed that yet. Oh that's a bet. No, but go check out Route God.

Speaker 2 1:05:03

Rob Markman. Where's Young G in there?

Speaker 3 1:05:06

Rob Markman. Where man Rob Markman?

Speaker 2 1:05:07

That's my rap name Young.

Speaker 3 1:05:08

G, young G. Rob Markman. That might be kind of hard, rob Markman. Young G, young G. Young G. Young G, young D. Let's play, I can't get my feet off the table.

Speaker 4 1:05:20

I'm feeling too much.

Speaker 2 1:05:26

I'm lethal with this love Yo, but I cut like I'm a chef. Hey, All right. So how do you get these NFL receivers? Let's get back to reality here.

Speaker 3 1:05:40

How I get the NFL receivers. It's two different ways they see it.

Speaker 2 1:05:44

Was Deontay the first guy that-.

Speaker 3 1:05:46

Fuck, no, that's my whole. Y'all got to remember that's my whole boy.

Speaker 2 1:05:49

He said that, he said that.

Speaker 3 1:05:51

Oh yeah what he said about me on his shit.

Speaker 2 1:05:54

I'll tell you afterwards Fuck that, Actually I don't think he said anything negative about you. He didn't say anything negative.

Speaker 3 1:06:00

No, I know it wasn't going to be that.

Speaker 2 1:06:03

He actually said the opposite of negative. He's like dude. He praised you. He's like dude. James fucking got me right. Get into that shit. I don't want to Dude. I'll get emotional. I'm an emotional guy.

Speaker 4 1:06:15

Yeah.

Speaker 3 1:06:16

Nigga you been drinking, that's why.

Speaker 2 1:06:20

Shit. How did you find NFL receivers? Was Deontay the first guy that you had, or was it?

Speaker 3 1:06:29

Ray Ray.

Speaker 2 1:06:30

Was it Deon?

Speaker 3 1:06:32

First guy that ever took a chance on me was Geronimo Allison.

Speaker 3 1:06:37

He from Tampa too, but he lived out there in like Progress Village. He went to Sputter. He got picked up by the Packers Good receiver. He was good, tall, skinny, like lanky frame On some like Alshon shit.

Speaker 3 1:06:49

So like when I was like starting I didn't care like what the formula to the receiving training was, I just cared about getting the NFL receiver right. So I always used to go make sure I was doing the proper drills that they were doing at camp, things that went back and forth with that, because I wanted the higher ups to look at me as somebody who's doing good work out here so you can get accepted into that community of you training the NFL guys in the off season and shit like that First guy ever took a chance on me. After that I kept training other guys I don't remember who was second, third, fourth, whatever but the more work I put in they started to see that and they wanted that work. So the thing was they wanted all of the stuff that the GMs, the receiver coaches, all that kind of stuff. They wanted all the stuff that they said didn't work.

Speaker 3 1:07:39

So I'm moving, I'm raising up, I'm heazy and all that. They want all of that because it was creative. They was like man. They got us in this small ass box. We only could turn right, turn left and break down. We need all that so I can get creative. I was like, oh okay, so let me take my creativity, put it in a quarterback's timestamp you know what I'm saying and let me show y'all different ways with different concepts to do this and do that. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 1:08:05

How to still do these moves within the play and suck it open on the time. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 1:08:09

So that's when it really kind of really turned in the route, God, because it was like I was making sense of moves you can and can't do. And sometimes I've got online with certain receivers that came out there with me and shit like that, and I told them that fuck shit ain't going to work, that ain't it. You know what I'm saying, and that's what ended up going viral. It was like yeah not that Y'all watching the moves, but you're not playing football with the moves.

Dealing with Haters and NFL Workouts

Speaker 2 1:08:32

James, there's still people that you know. If you don't have haters, then you fucking suck at life. I know, but there's still people out there that are like that guy. You know he does all this. You know fancy shit for Instagram. Do you have anything to say?

Speaker 3 1:08:46

Fuck them. I'm doing my thing. I've never talked about y'all.

Speaker 2 1:08:50

I don't know you niggas, you have NFL receivers.

Speaker 3 1:08:52

Right, and I don't know your niggas, rob.

Speaker 2 1:08:53

Markman, you might have a little clue on what you're talking about.

Speaker 3 1:08:55

Rob Markman, you're talking about somebody you don't know, and I don't know y'all. So, whatever, I can go to your job and tell you you ain't doing some shit right, but they still employed your dumb ass. So, at the end of the day, fuck you, rob.

Speaker 2 1:09:04

Markman, your dumb ass. Rob Markman, you feel me, so my thing is like shit. Rob Markman Jr, that should make you fucking happy.

Speaker 4 1:09:14

Rob Markman.

Speaker 2 1:09:15

Jr. This is what I got to say to haters If you're a genuine hater.

Speaker 3 1:09:19

check me out. If you're a genuine hater, your daddy a bitch or you ain't have no father. Because my father always taught me you don't hate on no other man, regardless of what you your own man, what you hating on another man, play for. You ain't have no daddy or your daddy a bitch". And that's all I'm gonna say, like that. And then now I feel sorry for you because I had a father, so my daddy won't let me hate on him. If I go to my daddy's house right now and talk about another dude too much, he gonna be like what you like him, what you talking. Change the subject. It's over with that ain't you know what.

Speaker 3 1:09:54

I'm saying. So that's what it is. So if you hate them for nothing and you ain't going no deeper than just surface level videos and you don't know my teaching, my method, my nothing, what I done, did, my accomplishments, my stamps, my accolades and shit like that, then shut up.

Speaker 4 1:10:11

Why did you Rob Markman?

Speaker 3 1:10:13

You got a top three best receivers in the NFL currently right now I got Deontay Johnson best route runner in the league, though it's a shit show. And who?

Speaker 1 1:10:21

do you think the other two could be Not?

Speaker 2 1:10:25

in no particular. That's a good question.

Speaker 1 1:10:27

And not any particular order.

Speaker 2 1:10:29

That's hard to say Guys that you haven't trained, or guys that you have trained, yeah, yeah, just in the league, I know I can't even go.

Speaker 3 1:10:39

I gotta go off the guys like I haven't trained, because there's a lot of people I really genuinely like Rob Markman Jr, but you watch football, want to get my hands on for real and like, just because I'm a sponge too. So the thing is, when I be training them, a lot of people think I'm always training them. It's like yeah, I'm training them, but I'm watching and learning them too. You know what I'm saying and putting. So now you know how you can see. I remember on Madden I want to say it was like Madden 10, 11 or some shit like that. When you go create a player I used to create quarterbacks and shit like that to play with on the franchise and the season and shit you go create a player, they'll be like what stance you want Peyton Manning stance, or Eli Manning release or some shit. You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 1:11:16

So, now when I'm watching these players, when I'm training them, I can kind of compare body styles and body types and stride lengths and all that kind of stuff on how I want you to move. I'll be like, okay, you move, like Deontay a little bit, let's do this. I'm going to change your whole training regimen up now because of this. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 1:11:32

But is it more slot For a slot or outside Both?

Speaker 3 1:11:35

I done, trained enough for both.

Speaker 2 1:11:36

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 1:11:38

I wanted you to say that I done trained enough for slots outsides and hybrid receivers Receivers that won't really run a lot of routes but will get the ball a lot. So like a turf in that play for the Cowboys, he run routes but they also find other ways to get him the ball. So what I would work on with him is a lot of just movement stuff, things you would do with the ball in your hand. You know what I'm saying Kick return stuff, punt return stuff and stuff like that. You always tether whatever athlete to the game and I feel like that's what made me special. I give everybody their own individual piece of training off the overall training. Because you're not going to. I'm not finna. My stride length is not like Greg's that was out there today, so I'm not going to get the eight yards and three steps that ain't me, Rob Markman.

Speaker 2 1:12:22

I tried throwing that back shoulder to you today and it was a fucking Rob Markman.

Speaker 3 1:12:25

You feel me that was. Oh, that's the plan, rob Markman, oh shit.

Speaker 2 1:12:28

We got the bomb going off Like comment subscribe. Rob Markman, man Hells bells Loretta.

Speaker 3 1:12:36

Cheers. This the fourth segment, and you got a new drink every time you got a problem. Man, let's talk for 25 minutes about your issue.

Speaker 2 1:12:45

All right, let's go.

Speaker 3 1:12:46

Go ahead. So I heard you ain't make it because of alcohol. Is that true?

Speaker 4 1:12:50

Yeah.

Speaker 3 1:12:54

But that was quick.

Speaker 1 1:12:55

You should tell them the story about the MX card on the Tampa Bay Storms and the David.

Speaker 4 1:13:01

Brooks call Damn man.

Speaker 3 1:13:04

I have nothing to hide. It ain't about hide Liquor though I'm with that with another substance, but not liquor, Nope.

Speaker 2 1:13:13

Meanwhile he's got the cans flying all over the place.

Speaker 1 1:13:17

You know what it ain't on camera?

Speaker 3 1:13:19

I'm like that with another substance, but that one don't slow you down like that. What?

Speaker 1 1:13:23

are you?

Speaker 3 1:13:23

asking.

Speaker 1 1:13:24

What the fuck, though. Why didn't you make it to pro ball?

Speaker 3 1:13:32

Well, I genuinely don't know the story. I just know you're an alcoholic, maybe I am man, maybe I fucking am.

Speaker 2 1:13:36

You my dog story. I just know you're an alcoholic, Maybe I am man, Maybe I fucking am.

Speaker 3 1:13:40

You're my dog, though, I'm just saying. I don't know the story so I'm going to let you tell your own story.

Speaker 2 1:13:44

I don't think I am Me and Ricky Williams man.

Speaker 4 1:13:47

I do know alcoholics.

Speaker 2 1:13:49

They can't function. Maybe I'm a you know what. I take that back. Maybe I'm a functional alcoholic For sure, and that's fine. That's fine. That's fine. I got a fucking house, I got kids, I got a mortgage. I got fucking.

Speaker 4 1:14:01

Bitcoin. I got a lot of shit.

Speaker 2 1:14:03

I got a lot of shit fucking ripping for me. I fuck with it. So don't really give a shit about alcoholism. Right, I like the taste.

Speaker 3 1:14:13

I don't know how you get there, because this shit nasty, but once it gets you there. Now it is true what they say you drank enough of this shit. No, I mean well.

Speaker 2 1:14:25

What irritates me is like Wade Boggs is celebrated. Who's the guy?

Speaker 4 1:14:34

what the fuck's his name? The wrestler Ric Flair Rick.

Speaker 2 1:14:38

Flair he's so he's pissing in his pants in South Tampa.

Speaker 1 1:14:42

Oh, he's also like 90.

Speaker 2 1:14:43

Currently. He's also pissing in his pants, hitting on like 17 year old girls and getting them fuck you, rick Flair, in case you're watching this honestly, man, fuck that guy okay, you can't do that Okay, all right, all right, you hit on my fucking daughter. You're at a we-yourself night-night, right? I'm not dealing with that.

Speaker 3 1:15:11

Boy say he got that paper man.

Speaker 2 1:15:13

I don't care, I don't care, got that paper man. Yeah, well, I got an AR-15 and a couple of Rob Markman, I think there's a fine balance between drugs and drinking and being able to operate it on a daily basis.

Speaker 1 1:15:27

You do it well. I do it well because I wake up with an IV.

Speaker 3 1:15:31

Rob Markman, I definitely do that shit well, but I ain't on that.

Speaker 2 1:15:34

Rob Markman. Well, I'm functional. I show up to these guys' workouts 100% of the time You're throwing the ball right.

Speaker 3 1:15:41

Yeah, throwing the fuck out.

Speaker 2 1:15:41

And I haven't missed a fucking shot.

Speaker 3 1:15:43

Right, so not an alcohol Throwing the air out that bitch. It's actually amazing. It's a rip, it's the same thing.

Speaker 2 1:15:49

It's amazing how we do what we do sometimes, but it's just like yeah, yeah, actually, as a matter of fact, do you mind speaking up on that?

Speaker 4 1:15:57

On what? How do?

Speaker 3 1:15:59

you do and how do you do what you do? I don't do nothing.

Speaker 2 1:16:02

No, no, it's not normalcy.

Speaker 3 1:16:04

I don't what you mean. I don't do nothing, Steve. I don't do nothing you don't smoke weed before workouts I ain't made enough money to confirm or deny that yet.

Speaker 2 1:16:16

I love it. I haven't made enough money to confirm or deny that yet.

Speaker 3 1:16:19

I love it. I smoked weed before workouts.

Speaker 2 1:16:21

I don't know who you did that shit with God.

Speaker 3 1:16:25

I love this fucking man I don't know who you did that with my boy. God damn, You're never going to get me to admit no shit like that.

Speaker 1 1:16:32

Isn't there like a four pack of TC drinks?

Speaker 3 1:16:35

Yeah, that ain't me.

Speaker 2 1:16:36

I ain't drinking no weed, that defeat the purpose no right yeah, that ain't it but that being said, man, let's let's all you know kind of get back to reality, man, like how the fuck did you become Ralph God? How did you become that? I think I think people would love to hear that story. I'm actually interested in hearing the story.

Speaker 3 1:17:00

How did that happen? I think the fans made me that shit. I didn't make my. This is because I'm still regular as fuck man, rob Markman but you did.

Speaker 2 1:17:09

I'm not going to put words in your mouth. How did you do what you did?

Speaker 3 1:17:13

I kept going. I don't know, bro, it's really hard to explain because I didn't try to do this. So if it was something I tried to do, I can give you the layout on it. You know how you just find a cheat code. You be like, oh shit, find an easier way to cut a watermelon or easier way to cut an orange. You be like, I just tried some shit one day and it worked. You know what I'm saying. And then they took it and ran with it and now it's patented and now it's this Same thing.

Speaker 3 1:17:36

The goal was just getting to the league and then this shit worked. More came out of it than just me being a regular player, and sometimes my players, my league guys, make me realize, re-rate me, I realize sometimes, but re-make me realize how important I am to the game. I don's like I don't hear it from the NFL. You know what I'm saying. I hear it from them and they're in the.

Speaker 3 1:18:01

NFL and I came to the conclusion that I'm never going to hear it from them. You know what I'm saying Per se, but they're like nah man.

Speaker 1 1:18:08

What if the UFL hit you up?

Speaker 3 1:18:11

I done did all that. I just had a workout with Arlington Renegades and I was talking to DC Defenders last past offseason and went to the Renegades mini camp, torched that shit. That shit be a numbers game. It's all politics. They got who they want. They got guys who done been in camp already. It's nothing I could be mad at, so I don't have to Something I want to get out there. The situation that I'm in is unique, but a lot of guys don't get the blessing, the opportunity to be in the situation like I'm in. So guys end up, like I say, necessarily hating on the next man for getting the opportunity before them and that's not good to do. And I understand how this guy is in the way of you getting paid, but it's not his fault.

Speaker 2 1:18:59

Rob Markman. But is that kind of a construct of you? Got one person in front of you, you're trying to buck them and you're trying to do everything that you can to get above them. Is that part of the deal?

Speaker 3 1:19:13

I mean all that shit is. I feel like that's the football part aspect of what we go through Like knowing that you can be better than somebody, but they're in front of you.

Speaker 2 1:19:22

You know what I'm saying it's the same thing as a quarterback, it's a quarterback role. How?

Speaker 3 1:19:25

you carry that load every day. You know what.

Speaker 3 1:19:27

I'm saying it's just like how you carry, that is what make you who you are no-transcript. Do you still give this guy the plays, do you still help him, do you still train with him after practice, and all that kind of yo? I feel like from there your blessing come from the higher up. You know it's nothing a coach can do. The higher up, you know it's nothing a coach can do. It's nothing. Something going to happen. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 1:20:02

Whether it's that guy get hurt, that guy graduate, you next man up, somebody else get hurt, you move into that spot, or something like that. If you move with good intentions, though, and you just never be a hater and you just that's the cards. They dealt, that I'm dealt, and it's not your fault that you're in front of me. Coach made the decision. Who on the board? He watched this. You in the same practice I'm in. You know I'm torching shit. Everybody know I'm torching shit, and it's just like those guys come to you on the team and be like I don't know why you ain't playing bro, me neither, but I don't got to hate y'all because y'all playing.

Speaker 2 1:20:34

You feel what I'm saying there? A lot of hating, Is there a lot of Lil Yachty.

Speaker 3 1:20:38

Fuck yeah, don't nobody want to call me the best right now because they a man. You don't really want to, but it's like who is. You know what I'm saying? You just go check it. It's just like who is. And I don't even got to be the person to't say nothing. I never come off like that.

Speaker 2 1:20:57

I'm the most homeless person in the world, rob Markman. What's his name? Goldfeet, rob Markman, he nice.

Speaker 3 1:21:01

I fuck with him. I trained with him when I was playing him Framp Camp Footwork, King Foot Doctors. I respect all them niggas. I love all them niggas because I done worked out with them, I done got gems from them, I done watched them coming up and everything like that.

Football Relationships and On-Field Chemistry

Speaker 2 1:21:17

Dude, that's serious, and they never.

Speaker 3 1:21:19

The guys that I named never hated on me, so I ain't never got nothing bad to say about them. You know what I'm saying. Like it's never been that type of vibe. Everybody else, though, fuck them Because they had to. You think you got to throw salt on my name to boost yours, nigga. You fucking your name up Because I got so many good reviews out there and people who genuinely fuck with me. You feel what I'm saying to be like wait why you don't like them though that shit don't make no sense.

Speaker 2 1:21:45

Rob Markman Jr, why do you think that?

Speaker 3 1:21:46

is hey, you want to be where I'm at when I didn't choose to be where I'm at. I worked to get where I'm at a year. Rob Markman, do you think that there's any reason that?

Speaker 2 1:22:00

people think that because they can't do exactly how you move.

Speaker 3 1:22:03

Yeah, it ain't.

Speaker 4 1:22:04

Rob.

Speaker 2 1:22:04

Markman Shit. We through today, we through for the last two years. You move at a different speed and a different tempo. This shit.

Speaker 3 1:22:13

Unique man. It took me a long time to develop this uniqueness. You know what I'm saying. So when people would be like, oh, you gotta be born with this gift, nah, this gift was developed. I wasn't born with this shit. So you can develop anything, but a lot of people do not. Rob Markman.

Speaker 2 1:22:27

Is that dope? That's it. I'm glad you said that. I'm glad you said that.

Speaker 3 1:22:31

Rob Markman, I feel like you can develop it could be there Really.

Speaker 2 1:22:35

Yeah, yeah, turn the lights off enough, I could develop your foot speed.

Speaker 3 1:22:40

You worked at it hard enough. I do it to people what?

Speaker 2 1:22:43

you mean I already have the foot speed?

Speaker 3 1:22:45

Okay, so you good, you see me catch the ball. Okay, bitch, See, I'm thinking you talking about quite a bad shit. That's unique. But you take anybody dog and you put them in that environment and that's what they're supposedly quote unquote trying to do. And they can do. It can happen, it's possible. So when they come to me and be like I don't know how to run routes like this, I'm like, okay, let's look at your body, friend, you will end up running routes like this, but I can make you the best in this. You know what I'm saying? Like a lot of people want, want to come out and be fucking Reggie Bush, Bitch.

Speaker 2 1:23:17

It ain't going to happen.

Speaker 3 1:23:17

You feel me, it ain't going to fucking happen no. Reggie. Bush got a dead leg out of this world. I can't teach you how to dead leg. You know what I'm saying, and the more you work on that, it's going to become real efficient and you can start breaking people out. But you got to work on it, though.

Speaker 2 1:23:30

I wish you could pull up, go ahead.

Speaker 1 1:23:32

Why don't you try to become a wide receivers coach in the NFL? Then for a franchise.

Speaker 3 1:23:37

I'm glad you asked this on camera. I never want to be a coach until I'm old and gray and I can't run around no more. But you're coaching right now. The reason being coaching is so much more than just training football players. When you're a coach, I know some coaches that coach for the Bucs, that coach for this team and all that kind of shit they don't see their families, they don't have free time. They got a shitload of money, a shitload of classic cars in the garage that they don't get to drive.

Speaker 2 1:24:04

The wife get to spend what they want and all that kind of shit. Rob Markman, they actually don't they don't.

Speaker 3 1:24:11

They don't get to see their people, right Rob?

Speaker 2 1:24:13

Markman, they don't get to see their people and I think we have better cards than what they have For real.

Speaker 3 1:24:19

That shit is really like a whole thing when you're a coach. It's just like in high school. You learn in high school. This coach that's really committed to you, bro, for this $1,600 stipend for the whole year and that's if that, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 1:24:34

If that, if that.

Speaker 3 1:24:35

That stipend for the whole year, whole 10, 12 games, whether you make it to the playoff or not.

Speaker 1 1:24:39

I mean there it is right there Between $100,000 and $500,000. That's not enough for my time For a wide receivers coach. Ain't enough for my time In the NFL Ain't enough for my time, bro. Damn.

Speaker 3 1:24:53

It'd be one of them. Situations where it's just like you don't get it. You know what a real coach putting the time, majority of the time, a real quote, unquote coach going to put in he's not going to get paid for it. That's not payment time. So if I really cared about all eight and nine of my athletes, including the fucking walk-ons, and I'm there, I'm making sure that that time that we spend after practice, that's free time, that's time with my kids, my wife, everything.

Speaker 1 1:25:15

Rob Markman Jr. What you're saying is he's working off salaries.

Speaker 3 1:25:17

Yes, Rob Markman Jr. He's putting in the time, because now, right after this he going to a coaches meeting, right after this he going to a position meeting. Right after this he got to go to X's and O's. Right after this he got to do this. Right after this he got to go through the 15 than training.

Speaker 1 1:25:35

I'm always going to be a trainer. But don't you think and this is just speculation if you start off as a wide receivers coach, you could then become an offensive coordinator, an?

Speaker 3 1:25:46

assistant. I don't want to coach at all, you at all. I don't want to coach. I know what goes into coaching no, we're doing. When I start coaching. I can no longer tie my cleats up and run a route with any athlete no more. I I can no longer tie my cleats up and run a route with any athlete. No more. I'm the coach now.

Speaker 1 1:25:59

There's some people that would want to do it. That's just I just asked, just because that's them.

Speaker 3 1:26:09

Majority of the receiver coaches now in college and the league is the ones that play receiver are ex-NFL receivers. You know what I'm saying? Ex-top college receiver, or if you got a receiver job or something like that you know, the head coach. You know the offense coordinator that's your dog or some shit you done graduated, you got a degree. Now you the receiver coach here, but majority of them they got some change now they getting their name in and they doing exactly what you saying going up in the ranks.

Speaker 3 1:26:29

That's what they doing to become an offense coordinator? To become that. I was a receiver coach here for five, six years to do that, rob Markman. But they want to do it. Yeah, because they done. Played eight, nine years in the league. Fuck it, I go coach. Now they got that up under their belt and shit like that. You know what I'm saying. So it's like I don't want to coach because I know what go into that. You know what I'm saying. And it ain't just about my family, my kids and shit like that.

Speaker 3 1:26:52

That is a lot of time bro, and that shit is coach, like a winning coach, like the most winningest coach. You was talking about Mike Tomlin and shit like that. That shit take time To be that good at something. You got to put that amount of time in. Think about that. So that's time away from everything else. You got going on and you at this football program.

Speaker 3 1:27:10

You feel me, I ain't looking at it like that. Training once this hour over, fuck y'all boys for the rest of the day, like I said, two hours, I did two hours this morning. I ain't heard from them since and I don't have to. I ain't got to see an X, an O, a football or none of that shit. I'm going on about my day, how I feel, like it. You know what I'm saying and that's why I like the freedom of what I'm doing now instead of that, because now and then too, the craziest thing about it is I feel like I got more pull in the league than I would as a coach, because my name in rooms and I don't even work for y'all. You know what I'm saying. So it's like shit. I'm in a pretty good position.

Speaker 1 1:27:45

I'm going to clarify here first on sports and suits James is not going to coach in the NFL because he appreciates his time.

Speaker 3 1:27:54

Yeah, I don't want to be no coach, there we go.

Speaker 1 1:27:55

I don't want to be no coach. And actually, you also Clarified another thing Coaching in the league Is way more than A 40 hour a week job, man fuck, yeah, man, that's your life, that's like 120 hours.

Speaker 2 1:28:07

You're guarding. You're guarding that fucking. That's your life, that's another one you end up knowing.

Speaker 3 1:28:11

You end up knowing More about the guys at work Than your own family, guys at work than the people in your neighborhood.

Speaker 1 1:28:17

Yeah.

Speaker 3 1:28:18

Than the people you stay next to. Your wife and kids know everybody in the neighborhood and you don't.

Speaker 1 1:28:22

We barely see you. That's probably exactly why you didn't coach either.

Speaker 3 1:28:27

Nah he didn't coach, he would have gave everybody alcohol and shit. No, I didn't coach because I didn't give a shit, dude.

Speaker 2 1:28:33

There's nobody on this fucking planet that can throw the ball better than me.

Speaker 3 1:28:36

Yeah man.

Speaker 1 1:28:37

To my opinion.

Speaker 4 1:28:38

Rob.

Speaker 1 1:28:38

Markman. Well, tom Brady, I would say Rob Markman, swinging that bitch. Rob Markman, Pink Manning, I would say Rob Markman.

Speaker 4 1:28:43

You saying it because you've seen Rob Markman. I've seen Super.

Speaker 3 1:28:46

Bowls. Rob Markman, you've seen them do it. You've seen them do it in person on Sundays. That's a form of doubt in the person that's telling you right now and it's because you didn't see me do it. It's because you didn't see me do it don't mean I'm not eligible. So I understand what receivers go through in the league when they go to talking about I could be a number one. I just ain't getting the targets. I 100% believe you can, because I've seen what you did with two catches today. Imagine if I gave you eight.

Speaker 1 1:29:23

You don't know I got a question.

Speaker 2 1:29:25

How much of that monetary system goes. Yeah, you go from two catches to eight.

Speaker 3 1:29:32

Yeah, it's a whole fucking system, it's a whole thing and football is so much more than X's and O's. When you get to that level, dog, like understanding that shit is really like they say, business, but it's just.

Speaker 4 1:29:44

It's, however, the cookie crumbles.

Speaker 3 1:29:45

They want it to crumble is what I'm saying. They crumble the cookie how they want to.

Speaker 4 1:29:49

every year, the light going to be on this person.

Speaker 3 1:29:52

They going to let this person do this, this person going to be in the media a lot this year. This is what's going to go on. They control everything and once you, it's nothing to cry about. It's like once you realize that, you just move accordingly.

Speaker 1 1:30:04

Yeah, I got a question that actually is for both of y'all. All right. Quarterback wide receiver. As a wide receiver, what does a quarterback do that pisses you off? As a quarterback, what does a wide receiver do that pisses you off? And is that communicated in the locker room and is it fixed prior to a game?

Speaker 3 1:30:24

Both. It's always talked about. Only thing that pisses me off is when they don't understand me. All I want you to do is understand me. I don't care what you do with nobody else. Hey, when I look at you, yeah, we got a nine ball. Okay, know who the fuck you're throwing to you? Know what I'm saying Complete my passes, make me look good. Nah, if you threw everything at my face and I dropped everything, you would be mad as fuck at me. I'm fucking up your completion percentage, your ratio, your first down shit. I'm fucking your shit up if I'm just dropping the ball and you hitting me dead in my hands.

Speaker 2 1:30:54

You know what I'm saying. Have we had an incompletion?

Speaker 3 1:30:56

Nah, not in a while, and I don't know, not in a while, for real.

Speaker 1 1:31:01

So is it the quarterback's job to read what the receiver is doing. Correct To know him.

Speaker 3 1:31:06

Like you got to know him. It goes beyond and it's not easy.

Speaker 1 1:31:09

Yeah, Because it's all on the quarterback, it's not really on the receiver, because the receiver either knows the play or knows the route. But if the quarterback overthrows him or underthrows him, the quarterback gets the entirety of all the blame. It's a respect.

Speaker 3 1:31:22

I mean outside of the locker room. Yeah, that's again when we talking about fucking fans. We have people we don't give a damn about. As long as we know what's going on in the locker room and know why we didn't communicate. So you ever seen a football game sometime and the quarterback looked like the receiver did something?

Speaker 4 1:31:38

and it looked like he was wrong and the quarterback.

Speaker 3 1:31:41

Come back to this bitch and be like that's him telling everybody like I'll fuck that up. I'll deal with that in film.

Speaker 3 1:31:48

I'll tell coach and shit like you, good, fuck that up. Same thing receiver. Come back, that's me, that's me, that's me Quarterback, walking him back with open arms. You good, come on, let's play whatever. You gotta have that respect factor on both, because I'm finna beat double coverage. I'm finna beat two people. I'm finna roll into a zone. I'm finna get hit by Ray Lewis. I might get hit by Ed Reed, might get ping ponged off Terrell Suggs all this shit might happen.

Speaker 3 1:32:14

You're going, it's five people rushing this man, six, three and they all run four, fours and four, fives and he back there. He got to throw through a lane and the grass is slippery and all that. He going through shit back here too. So I'm going through shit while I'm running this route, he going through shit while he doing this. And if the ball come out to the right, a little bit cool. If it's wobbly, a little bit cool. I still got to do my best to get there. You feel what I'm saying? At the end of the day, it's that respect factor. Like we both know we got shit going on but we bailing each other out on certain shit. You feel what I'm saying? It'd be like crazy for me when receivers be like man. That ball was a little bit to the outside. Motherfucker, it's five, your motherfucker didn't pay.

Speaker 3 1:32:52

They'll catch this motherfucker man, put it where I can put it at. You know what I'm saying. And then two, that's the prima donna shit, the quote-unquote prima donna shit. Receivers get looked at for because it's like, yeah, when you do go back and tell somebody who got five, six people and somebody off a blitz pickup coming at him to throw the ball, perfectly to you, that's a lot to ask for, it's in the area, try to catch it. You know what I'm saying. At some point in time, and the same thing goes both ways, like hey, I'm running full speed at my 4-4 across the field. The ball can't be back here. That's too much momentum, that's a lot of momentum to turn. I'm not going to catch that. You get what I'm saying. That ball is low. I can't dive like that. You got to know. You know what I'm saying where to throw. And that's where the respect factor come in on both of us. You know what I'm saying receiver and quarterback. You agree with that Steven?

Speaker 2 1:33:43

100%. Yeah, it's not even close, it's not even an argument.

Speaker 1 1:33:47

Yeah, so you guys have to be the best of friends when you're a quarterback and the receiver Absolutely.

Speaker 3 1:33:58

A lot of people that you probably done seen throughout the years, who hated their quarterback and receiver outside of practice, but on field they night and day. They best friends Together. That ball is intact, Everything is going.

Speaker 1 1:34:09

They read everything, rob Markman, you know what's. One example of that is Travis Kelsey and Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 3 1:34:14

They not cool like that outside the ball.

Speaker 4 1:34:15

Rob Markman, no I know Not outside.

Speaker 1 1:34:16

But I'm saying in game Pat's, like when I see him shake, I already know that he's going to go right. And Pat just throws it boom, right there on his right.

Speaker 3 1:34:27

Yeah, yeah, that's just chemistry. Knowing your guys, knowing who around you you know what I'm saying. Knowing who you could depend on.

Speaker 1 1:34:40

You know everybody drop a ball, everybody run the wrong route, get jammed up, slip and fall, it all happens, but more often times than none I can depend on you. That's all I got to ask who would you say is the best quarterback-receiver duo ever, Ever, ever?

Speaker 3 1:34:48

I don't know.

Speaker 1 1:34:48

I can't say ever Montana.

Speaker 3 1:34:49

Rice. That's hard, that's raw too, that's a good one. They up there, aitman Irving, oh they in there you going. Eight men Irving, oh they in there. Oh you going straight. Old school.

Speaker 1 1:34:59

Yeah, fuck, yeah, I mean, what do you got now?

Speaker 3 1:35:01

You got Joe Burrow. Oh, come on, bro, what you mean? He just went triple crown. Who threw the ball?

Speaker 2 1:35:08

You're putting Joe Burrow in that stat.

Speaker 3 1:35:09

I'm not in the stat. I'm saying you, saying who you got now I'm naming people.

Speaker 1 1:35:12

I'm saying overall ever, ever, come on man.

Speaker 3 1:35:18

And then we can't never go new with people who going old because they're going to be like, because these new people Warren Moon, doug Flutie no, no, I'm saying quarterback receiver who the fuck was Warren Moon throwing to?

Speaker 1 1:35:29

yeah, who the fuck was he throwing to?

Speaker 3 1:35:31

he was throwing to Doug Doug was a quarterback for Buffalo.

Speaker 1 1:35:34

Man, yeah, what the fuck what are you Rob?

Speaker 3 1:35:35

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Speaker 1 1:35:40

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Speaker 2 1:35:56

Rob Markman. 2pepper Randy Moss Fuck with me now. Yeah, I would. Okay, he was throwing that bitch.

Speaker 4 1:36:04

He was throwing that ass.

Speaker 2 1:36:05

They let it fucking rip, yeah, yeah, yeah, he was throwing that ass that bitch though hey, randy, yeah, lebron Dude, yeah, yeah, that's a pretty good one, you know what Rob Markman I think I would say TO McNabb was nice, rob Markman.

Speaker 1 1:36:18

What about? I know it's not a receiver. Brady Hernandez, brady Gronk, rob.

Speaker 3 1:36:23

Markman, that is a receiver Shit. They did. They play receiver cuz. Rob Markman, you're receiving yards. You don't get tight end yards. Them bitches receiving yards.

Speaker 4 1:36:32

Rob.

Speaker 3 1:36:32

Markman, okay all right all right. Rob Markman I think Tom came out and said something like Aaron Hernandez was cold as fuck.

Speaker 4 1:36:39

That was something. You feel what I'm saying. He killed people.

Speaker 2 1:36:45

That boy killed people. That's all right. I can't wait to kill people too.

Speaker 1 1:36:49

I mean, he did, bro. This guy killed so many people. He killed himself.

Speaker 2 1:36:53

I'm ready to kill a lot of people. I'm already black. Oh, I'm black as shit at this point. Dude, it's over.

Speaker 3 1:37:04

I'm not in this one, it's over for my daughter's girlfriend.

Speaker 4 1:37:10

Rick Flair.

Speaker 2 1:37:11

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Speaker 3 1:37:13

Rick Flair. Oh, steve, looking for you.

Speaker 1 1:37:17

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Speaker 3 1:37:25

We wrapped it, we good, that was it.

Speaker 1 1:37:28

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