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Welcome to the official Sports & Suits playlist, your ultimate destination for conversations that bridge the world of athletics with the drive and discipline of the corporate arena. Each episode features candid interviews and thought-provoking discussions with top athletes, business leaders, and influencers who share how they harness the competitive spirit of sports to excel in their professional lives. Dive into real-life stories of resilience, leadership, and adaptability—traits that power championship teams on the field and high-performing organizations off it.
Tune in to discover the mindset shifts, training regimens, and success strategies used by champions in sports and business alike. Whether you’re an aspiring entrepreneur, a seasoned CEO, or simply a curious listener hungry for fresh perspectives, Sports & Suits delivers insights and inspiration that go beyond the scoreboard. Subscribe, hit play, and join us on this journey—where athletics truly meets ambition.
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Sean Goldrich Future Perfect: Balancing Football Ambition and Life
Ever wonder what college football coaches are really looking for when recruiting quarterbacks? In this revealing conversation with Sean Goldrich, quarterback coach at the University of Delaware, we dive deep into the transforming landscape of college football and uncover the secrets that separate successful players from those who flame out.
Goldrich shares the unforgettable story of how an unconventional first meeting with his own quarterback coach – who demanded he "put something on" his throws and later refused to train him unless he joined for bourbon – taught him valuable lessons about balance that shape his coaching philosophy today. It's a refreshing perspective in an era where many young athletes believe total abstinence and rigid focus are the only paths to success.
The digital revolution has fundamentally changed how players get noticed. "These guys aren't watching your Instagram stories or Snapchat," Goldrich explains, urging prospects to showcase their skills and training on Twitter where coaches actually look. He reveals his evaluation process, focusing not on carefully curated highlights but on what players don't want him to see – their response to adversity, sideline demeanor, and performance in crucial game situations.
We tackle the controversial effects of the transfer portal and NIL deals, with Goldrich offering candid insights about the downsides many players don't consider – from lost academic credits to the realities of stepping into new systems where they must re-compete and relearn. His compelling argument that coaches deserve NIL opportunities too reflects the changing dynamics between players and their mentors in this new era.
Whether you're a young quarterback looking to get recruited, a parent navigating the youth sports landscape, or simply a college football fan curious about the dramatic changes reshaping the game, this conversation provides an authentic, behind-the-scenes look at what really matters in developing successful players and programs. The balance Goldrich strikes between old-school values and embracing necessary evolution makes this a must-listen for anyone who cares about the future of college athletics.
all right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode. I feel like we've been doing a hundred of these already sporting suits. My dog here, mr goldrich, coach goldrich now, oh yeah, let's go hens blue hands so sean is the. Uh shit, we've known each other for eight years now.
Speaker 3:Eight years now, God, I'm like that. Fuck time with Cheers man Buzz by quick.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no doubt, Cheers, cheers yeah.
Speaker 1:So he did his combine training and pro day training down in Tampa Got introduced to him. You know was doing his combine training. We just became friends. Ever since we're going to get into that story, matter of fact, fuck it, let's do it right now. Tell these folks how exactly it went.
Speaker 3:I mean, the story's got to be one of one. You know I'm coming down to Florida. Obviously I'm feeling like I'm the man I'm excited about pro day training. I'm in Tampa man, all is good. I'm familiar with the area. Get to a place called the Performance Compound.
Speaker 1:I think they changed the name at this point. Right, it's now like the house or something. It was ASPI Then. Now Yo's doing his own thing. I actually just talked to Yo like two days ago.
Speaker 3:Man well that place was awesome.
Speaker 3:I'm getting there, I'm training around some big names, I'm feeling myself a little bit. And I walk in the first day and there's no quarterback coach, but they told me I had one. They're like man, we got a guy for you, don't worry, show up. I think it was the second workout second day.
Speaker 3:I get in there and the workout's over and all of a sudden, stephen at the time, who I didn't really know who he was, I didn't really know much of anything at this point, I'm just trying to blend in Comes up. He's like hey, what's up, man, stephen, nice to meet you. He has a football in his hand and he's like hey, turn down an opportunity to get better. So, um, he flips me the ball and we sit there. We're probably about 10 yards away and we're inside. So I'm thinking like, man, let's just take it easy. Maybe he just wants to. You know, pop a couple in the air, keep it moving. This is great. Oh man, this is beautiful. So I throw about four or five and I see him like, kind of sizing me up and I'm like is there, is there to be a problem here? This guy's like he's up-down man, head-to-tail just like what is this guy's problem?
Speaker 3:And I know I'm not throwing the ball hard, but I'm like, man, I just met you. Like you want to throw 99 off the mound, like we can do that, but let's step outside for that one, so we get about. You know, 10 yards away I throw a couple and then all of a sudden he looks at me and he's like hey man, how about you put a little on it? I'm like, okay, I'm like I guess we're turning this thing up a little bit. He fires one back at me to kind of set the tempo and I'm like hmm, yeah, I'm like, here we go.
Speaker 3:I'm like I guess we're doing this now. We're live, no idea who this guy is, but let's roll and yards, and I put a little bit more into it and he's just chirping me. He's like are you for real, man? Like you could throw the ball, like I could catch. I promise you I put something on it. I'm like all right, okay, I step back and throw another one. He's still sizing me up. I just see his disappointment and I think I'm like five minutes later, maybe, dude, now we're throwing heaters like in this place, just absolutely screaming the football, people are watching us and stuff too, and I'm like all right, man, now I'm kind of pissed off.
Speaker 3:I'm like man, I got a problem with this guy dude, I'm like I don't even know if I want to speak to this guy again, let alone like I didn't have the time to know you were my quarterback coach. And sure enough, he steps in, comes over, dabs me up and doesn't say anything but this he goes I'm steven garcia, I'm your quarterback coach, I'll see you in the morning. And I like, oh, that's perfect. So and Yo pulls me aside after. He's like oh so you met Steven. I'm like did I meet him?
Speaker 2:I got the right eye man, fucking guys, tripping man, my fucking hands are stinging over here.
Speaker 3:dude, my arm is dead. I'm like you just had 45 reps in here in five minutes.
Speaker 1:That story doesn't get old. And then you got to. Are you allowed to explain?
Speaker 3:that, yeah, yeah, I think we're at that point. We got over the hump with this one, I mean. So, just like anybody, you know, you're going through your pro day training and I'm feeling myself. I'm like man, I'm locking in for the next couple months. Man, all I'm doing I'm business, business oriented. I'm not drinking, I'm not partying, I'm waking up. No-transcript stuff is good. He's like, hey, man, what are you doing later? I'm like not, not much man, recovery, all that stuff just hanging around. He's like meet me at this spot. We're gonna go, just, you know, chop it up for a little bit. And I'm like not thinking much of it again. I'm like, okay, you know, just get a little a little business meeting man, come up with our attack maybe come up with a plan.
Speaker 3:maybe tell me what I'm doing wrong. All is good. So I go up there. Casually turns out it's a little whiskey bar and I'm like, oh no, these places all too well. I'm like, but damn, this is my pastime being like man. Like you know, we're having this talk over here and, without hesitation, you know, waiter comes over and you're like, hey, man, I'll do a bourbon on the rocks, whatever we got. And you look at me, he's like you doing anything. I'm like I'll do a water, and I see you just snap your head over. You're like you'll do a what? And I'm like, man, I'm going to stay focused. Man, I know we're training in the morning, I'm just going to sip on water tonight. You're like I'll tell you something real quick. I remember this word for word. You're like, if you're not drinking, I'm not training you.
Speaker 3:Literally Word for word and we go back and forth for a couple minutes. I'm like I don't know man, I don't in, I ordered a bourbon.
Speaker 3:We had a hell of a night we were talking about everything that matters in the football world, the training stuff. I think at that point it taught me a couple things. One you can never take playing quarterback too too serious in some regards. Now you have to carry your business the right way off the field, can't be getting arrested, can't do all that stuff too. Being too uptight is not good for the position either, like in my mind now that I'm a coach, now that I'm around it, exactly exactly. There's a difference to me in between being locked in and focused and having a little bit of an edge and then playing nervous to mess up Right, right, and, you know, afraid to fail, yep. So trying to find that line was a valuable moment for me, man. Afraid to fail. So trying to find that line was a valuable moment for me, man. Cause you know I'm thinking like, hey, this is what everyone's doing. They're not drinking, they're focused. All they do is live, breathe, sleep. Football. It's how you burn out.
Speaker 3:It's how you burn out. In hindsight, then I meet all these guys at the next level and they were crazier than I ever was.
Speaker 1:You rather got her to you don't, and I think that was kind of the message that you really kind of started instilling me and we worked our ass off. Don't get me wrong, and that's the thing. Like we busted our ass. Yeah, we, you know, we didn't, that was only like we didn't. We weren't drinking every damn night, we weren't drinking really that often at all, but I mean we fucking busted our ass. But I needed to break that. I need to break the ice and kind of see like who the hell? You and there's no other. There's no better way to find out who somebody is when you get them a couple cocktails and let them kind of skew a little bit.
Speaker 2:So this was all when you were a quarterback and you were coaching him Just fresh out of college. Oh, okay, gotcha.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so I played.
Speaker 3:Probably could have set that up, but I played at University of New Hampshire and, you know, had a solid career and I came down here.
Speaker 3:You know my agent sent me down this way and my brother actually lives in the area, so it was an easy place for me to come get acclimated. I already kind of knew what was going on and seemed like the stars aligned. So when I came down it was really the next step and what everyone does, you know you go into your pro day training, you link up with a QB guy and about football and all that stuff too, um, so I was a little bit naive to what really goes on in that world. But then, obviously, when we linked up, I realized what it takes, because everyone's got a different training model and your training model was way more, um, you know, relative to what really happens in the game, which I still carry with me as a quarterback today. You know, and, um, a lot of people like to do this bag training stuff and you know working your feet over bags the whole time and doing stuff where you have, you know, stationary targets and you're not really moving your feet.
Speaker 3:It's not realistic, right and it's just like that doesn't happen in a, in a pocket. You know so how are you gonna say, let's train this and see it show up on a saturday, when what you're training doesn't happen on saturday? You know so I think we got a lot out of that man, absolutely After that day. We never looked back too.
Speaker 3:That's for damn sure we worked our ass off and I you know I ended up having some great opportunities because of it and you know he's been a great mentor for me since I kind of and I mean kind of talk about that.
Speaker 1:So you go through Pro Day, you go through all the other stuff. I mean talk about the opportunities that you had, and I mean there's opportunities that you had that I mean I fucking didn't have.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean I really got lucky, I got super fortunate. I think, you know, it kind of all stemmed from, you know, the certain things that I did after college really kind of, I think, helped boost me up. The first one was I went to a showcase down in Texas called the CGS College Gridiron Showcase and you know, it was an opportunity for me to go down there and kind of be around some of the better players in the country and, uh, you know, get a chance to practice with some of the best and have a bunch of scouts there, and I had every nfl team, a bunch of cfl teams show up and, um, you know, I thought I had a solid overall event, you know, for the couple days that I was there interviews and all that stuff and then, uh, when I finally got to the game, I think I probably played the best in the game that I thought like in terms of my performance for the weekend. Right, I think I stepped up and I think that opened up some opportunities for me.
Speaker 3:Um, you know, at that time, or kind of put myself a little bit more on the map, um, and then I ended up talking to the falcons after, and I ended up talking to the bears a little bit yep, and those that ended up being the two teams come draft day. That ended up giving me an opportunity to come in and work out for them and spend the weekend and learn football and all that stuff too. So I was super fortunate for that. You know, I think those opportunities really made me better, not only just as a player, but even as a coach. Now, right, I can now connect the dots a little bit more of what it takes to be great at the next level and what the how you bridge the gap between being an elite college football player and what these guys in the NFL need to know. No question about it. It was insane.
Speaker 2:And you were a rushing quarterback actually, weren't you? Because you scored 20 touchdowns in your four-year career in college and you threw for 47 touchdowns. So I mean, that's huge, bro, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, I think, a little bit of testament. You know the offense that we were running. Coach Cardy did a great job of balancing things out and I think it's some of the stuff we still do today, which is pretty awesome. I was fortunate to be on a great team with some great players, and what we did was a little bit more unique. At the time we were a true West Coast style run and gun and take our deep shots, trick plays and all that stuff. That kind of, I think, makes the game fun, um, around some great players kind of. I think my skill set ended up fitting the system the way coach cardi envisioned it at the time and, um, you know, we we played a lot of football, won a lot of games, um, and you even caught some balls. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, we threw in some trick plays.
Speaker 2:Now, what, oh, what, hold on what? Yeah, yeah, he's got receiving yardage. Yeah, you can watch the film now.
Speaker 3:We did a little pitch pass to the running back and I kind of dummy rolled out to the left.
Speaker 2:He turned around after he like stretched zone.
Speaker 3:Yeah, threw it back to me Cross field.
Speaker 2:I think we picked exactly how much 15 yards.
Speaker 3:Oh shit, I swear yeah Against Villanova in a big situation.
Speaker 2:And you know what? This guy also tackled three people.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that might be the best interception. I definitely wasn't playing safety.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But, man, it's such an incredible journey and that's why I wanted to get you on while you're down here. I mean, he's only down here for the week and I was like, dude, I'd love to get you down and just kind of tell your story. I mean, I feel like it's interesting. We haven't had a college coach a former college player, pro player, and now he's a coach, and I feel like it's an interesting story that you know. I'd like people to know, you know, because it's not all. We've had guys that are still playing that you know. Obviously luca was just here and there's guys that just graduated. Then, you know, go through all this adversity with knee injuries, shoulder injuries, and it's just it's. It's pretty cool to for these people to understand like it's not all rainbows and fairy tales, like there's a lot of fucked up shit, a lot, way more fucked up shit nowadays than probably ever before ever um, so you graduated when 2015.
Speaker 1:2015. So you were before NIL, way before, way before it was a thing.
Speaker 3:Transfer portal wasn't a thing, all that stuff.
Speaker 1:And now we've got guys that are getting paid a.
Speaker 2:So with your kind of record in high school, I mean you were 25 and 4. I mean you probably would have made some money in college, right?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean you like to think. I think the new day and age now what really opens up people's mind in football is the media accessibility that allows these kids to see what's going on out there, whether they're promoting like a fat contract or just seeing even facilities. Like you'd be so surprised at how much facilities impact the recruiting cycle for a kid. Like they want the best of the best, they want the jersey that looks cool, you know, they want to be training in the best gym, they want to be in a stadium packed with people. And I think what the difference is is, you know, when I was actually coming out like huddle recruit wasn't even a thing. Like I was sending out my dvd or dvds to people to get recruited.
Speaker 3:We are vhs, vhs yeah, good days and that's when they used to have to go meet people and drop them off like they weren't always sending these things through the mail, right, um, and then for about for us, like we used to burn cds and send them out to coaches and you never knew if they watched them or anything. You would just recruit yourself and then hope someone called and that was back when letters meant a little bit more and that's how you communicated and home visits and all that stuff meant something.
Speaker 3:When guys came into the school to recruit you, you know they were really doing a big evaluation on you because they didn't know as much about you, because your film was harder to access and full game film was hard to get to.
Speaker 1:I miss those days. I mean, do you miss those days, or is it, is it? I mean, obviously it's easier for you. Now you're on the other side of it, you're like, just send me your huddle, I know I don't need to be doing all the traveling, all the kissing, baby shaking hands type deal yeah, well, it's twofold.
Speaker 3:You know, I think, as a coach now you know what?
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, what people don't really realize is, like a lot of you know, I have questions all the time like, hey, you know, coach, what do you do in the off season? You know, people think, like college coaches, we just show up on saturdays, work through the season, then we take the rest of the year off, right, it's like all we do is work, man, like I mean, even the springtime sometimes you're working seven days a week on recruiting visits and all this stuff too. You're trying to get your team ready to roll and you got all this professional development stuff you want to do and you got to break down your season and all the different ways that you can make your program better. So people think that you have so much time in the day when you really don't right. So what huddle does for us is like it makes things accessible so that when you have time on the road, you're traveling, you're in an airport, you're on a bus, whatever it might be, flip it on flip on the you have wi-fi, you're good to go.
Speaker 3:They get these fancy ipads now. They're cellular, so you're watching film anywhere you go. I mean, we watch film every single time you're down here every time man, just flip it on real quick and it's. You know they can organize it quicker and they can find ways to get you, you know, get you the information that you need. And now, where you get access to full game film and like, as a quarterback coach, I want to see the nitty-gritty man we'll kind'd you do.
Speaker 1:We'll kind of go through that real quick. So I mean, I'm sure you get tens of thousands of people quarterbacks that are sending you their stuff. What do you watch the first 30 seconds. Then, if you like it, maybe you'll watch another 30 seconds, or you put it on the game, like kind of just talk about the recruiting aspect of you know, being a quarterback coach at a D1 school.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think everyone handles their process different. I've learned a lot from Coach Cardi and kind of put my own twist on the way I do it. I think from my process at least, and I can't speak for everyone, but I really do like to start by watching everything that they'll put out there On social media.
Speaker 3:On social media in general, and most of the time that includes their huddle as well twitter videos of them. Okay, throwing with the quarterback coach, like some of that stuff is more valuable for us than you'll really you know realize, because I want to see what a kid looks like biomechanically right you know, how does he throw?
Speaker 3:how does it come off his hand? What am I working with? What am I going to have to train when he gets to me? Gotcha, if I can't see him throw in person, then that's going to be a big resource for me.
Speaker 3:And if I can't get that information, then I'll make sure I dive into that. But I will watch the first 45 seconds of a film and that's usually where I either say no, sir, not a division, one player, or I got to watch everything about this kid and by the time you get to the last 10 players that you're really recruiting. I've watched these huddles 10 times. I know everything on there. I know all the throws, what they do, what good, what they do bad. But I don't know if that's always enough. And the way I break it down in my head is say, a kid has 300 attempts on the year, he has 300 attempts on a year and he has 50 plays on his highlight. Like that's, you can put a really good highlight film together with 50.
Speaker 3:Right, you know. But say the kid only had 115 attempts in the year and still has 50 clips on there. That's a that's impressive man like yeah, that's a different.
Speaker 3:It's a different deal efficiency per attempt is really something that's going to stand out to me. So when I'm diving into it, I'm like I want to see what it looks like all the time. If all they do is throw the ball, you better have a five minute highlight. I wouldn't fucking hope you better, you know. I mean like, and what are you doing against the best teams? Right, you might beat the teams across the town. They have 37 kids on the roster and their middle linebackers playing at 180 pounds. Not that impressive to me, right?
Speaker 3:but like are you showing up and playing against the four four star kids and playing in a big game and winning in overtime or driving down the field in a two minute? That's the guy I want to talk to, right.
Speaker 1:Right and I feel like that's, that's a, it's a lost art man. I tell these kids all the time you know, memphis included, it's like post everything on Twitter.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:These guys aren't watching your fucking Instagram stories. They're not looking at your stupid ass Snapchat of you and your forehead posted, posted on Twitter, of you working out that you're throwing a fucking Deontay Johnson You're throwing to George Pickens, you're throwing these NFL guys that you have access to. A lot of guys don't have that access. Post it, tag them. He's gotten better at it. But then some of these guys are just like nah, I don't like doing that. Okay, well, guess what You're not going to like doing. You're not going to like playing on Saturdays either.
Speaker 1:Yeah for sure, you're just not girls oh right, sure, right, yeah, but you're posting on that you care about the girls more than you care about playing college football. Yeah, that's all I need to know, right?
Speaker 2:that's all I need to know are you also looking for some kind of drama that they may be posting? Maybe they're, uh, not media trained yet and maybe they're talking shit. I mean, is that something that could influence the fact whether they're recruited or not?
Speaker 3:a hundred percent. You know, and I think that's the cool thing about being division one now and having some support is like you do have people that look into that a little bit more, like we have sports media people that kind of look into their background and see what they're posting and it could affect them you know it affected me. Yeah, that was actually. That was beautiful man. Well. So we we got a chance to work together. Last summer we worked at a quarterback academy up in Delaware, which was actually pretty awesome.
Speaker 1:Awesome, he put it on man.
Speaker 3:It was awesome. It was better than we would have thought for the first year through. We ended up having some NFL guys come back. Joe Flacco came back, rich Gannon came back. He was able to show up and kind of work the camp and we had, um you know, a great day. I mean, we had 75 top players in the area.
Speaker 1:We actually ended up having eight kids land division one from the camp?
Speaker 3:no shit, not not all scholarship, but even pwos yeah yeah, yeah, the 2026 class has like over 40 offers combined from the kids that showed up so we ended up having a full day, but either way.
Speaker 3:So we got to a point where we're going to promote. You know the guys that were showing up. You know we're throwing out all this stuff. Joe Flacco will be there, rich Gannon will be there. We're trying to put one together for Steven to say hey, you know Steven Garcia and his background. You know this. You know all Clemson, all this stuff. We were going to put out a graphic and made the graphic and our sports media team was finally just like. The people I was talking to were like hey, man, have you seen what he's been posting on his Twitter? Okay, I got you. Have you seen the things that he's been putting out there? Like you, sure you want to promote this, Like you?
Speaker 1:think that's a good look for us right now, like first time through, and I'm like I we talked about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's, it's, it's funny, I mean it's I don't I got canceled bro.
Speaker 1:No, I didn't. I still went to the camp, but I I texted sean, I was like, hey, man, what's up?
Speaker 3:with that graphic he's like ah, yeah, man.
Speaker 2:Uh, the graphics are no, go on it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was like oh man, I don't know how to break this we were advised not to yeah, yeah but you know I don't.
Speaker 1:I'm not working for anybody. If I was, I'd probably be a little bit more careful on what I'm posting.
Speaker 2:But From a position of Fuck you, that's right. We were talking about the.
Speaker 3:That's the motto.
Speaker 1:No, we were talking about the the Mark Wahlberg movie.
Speaker 3:The.
Speaker 1:Mark Wahlberg with John Goodman. Yeah, john Goodman, yeah, and he's like you know, you got to do everything from a position of fuck you yeah.
Speaker 3:Something to that.
Speaker 1:You get a 30-year roof over your head.
Speaker 2:fuck you $2 million in the bank collect interest. Fuck you. Anybody tells you boss tells you to work overtime. Fuck you yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean I'm sure you've seen that clip on every session.
Speaker 2:It's a great movie. It is. I forget what it's called.
Speaker 1:But that's a great clip. But yeah, I mean that was such a hell of a camp. I know I even fucked up the first drill. So Sean's over there. He's going 800 miles an hour. You can tell he's an amped up guy.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I can tell.
Speaker 1:If I was playing for him I'd run through a fucking brick wall for him. 100%, he gives a shit about it. You can tell he gives a fuck about this position, about football, about, you know, young men that want to, you know live life and, you know, be successful. So we're going to, we're going to start this camp and I fucked up and I uh stapled the schedule and I had, I didn't, I didn't know that was like organized, so I just kind of stayed with whatever. So I'm over there, you know, I'm putting these guys through these bag drills and stuff and all of a sudden I hear garcia, what the fuck man, you're supposed to be doing that, the next segment. I'm like what says you haven't?
Speaker 3:I was like god just started on the wrong page and I just see him flipping through like, yep, I'm on the wrong page but it was.
Speaker 1:It was great, man. We still got it. We still got a lot of work in and it was it awesome. I had Memphis up there and got a chance to meet with your guys that are playing for you and they have nothing but positive things and they love you, man, and it's an admirable thing for a player to love a coach. You don't see it very often, man. I sure should have loved Spurrier when I was playing for him.
Speaker 3:I think it's a different day and age, it's a whole different day and age. I think that's something definitely worth talking about. You know, they've changed college football in so many different ways and so many good ways NIL transfer portal. Transfer portal stuff too. But like I even you know, I want to put this out there I think that kids in general are just different, you know, I think you know the hard nose gritty football how many, how many?
Speaker 1:how many guys sat in that chair and said the exact same thing that he's saying right now desmond said it desmond lex. Luca just said it.
Speaker 3:I mean there's go ahead I mean, I just think it's changed, you know, and I think the problem becomes back from the social media thing again. I'm going to circle back on. What we talked about before is like these kids are looking at this stuff on social media and automatically connecting the dots, saying that should be me Right, I earned this Right. My parents are telling me that I'm that Right, my uncles tell me that I'm that, my friends are telling me that I'm that, so that's what I deserve. But forgetting the fact that those people that you're looking at put so many endless hours into their craft to get there even more challenging so than now, because there was no media, there was no resources, as much for some of these NFL guys that they're looking at, like they were doing it because they had to, because they loved it, they were obsessed with it. These kids are doing it now because they're looking at. Well, that's what Pat Mahomes does.
Speaker 1:That's what I should do, cloud. Or you know that's what I should do, cloud.
Speaker 3:or you know yeah, 100% agree and they're looking at it through a different lens and it's like man, like you haven't really earned that completely Right Now. I think I say this all the time in recruiting. I say this to my players, I say this to everyone. You know parents I talk to. The baseline for hard work is elevated now more than ever. No doubt, like you can't just show up and be a really good athlete, because now kids are training specific programs and stuff from 10 years old on. You know they're really. They're going these quarterback trainers right, whether it's baseball, swing coaches, pitching coaches, these guys are doing it at a higher level because they know that now everyone else that's working is putting it out there too.
Speaker 1:We're gonna, we're gonna come back to that, because I that's, that's a damn good, that's a damn good point. We'll be right back on another segment of Sports and Suits. You got my dog. Yeah, buddy, coach Goldie.
Speaker 2:Yes, sir.
Speaker 1:Coach Goldie. Like comment, subscribe, share notifications, Put it on alert. We'll see you back in a minute. Welcome back folks. Back to it. Back to it, man. Yeah, so we were kind of talking about the transfer portal NIL, kind of talking about the transfer portal nil, kind of that situation. You know what's your as a being on the other side of things that let's start off first with. As a player, what would you have? Would you like how it was before, or would you like?
Speaker 3:how it is now. Yeah, I'm glad we're kind of circling back on that. I know that connects to the whole media thing. I think the problem was is I probably would have been a victim as well, because I was in the social media stuff as it kind of came out. I adjusted to it. But like once these kids see greener pastures elsewhere and they see the kid that pops in the portal and ends up landing at a P4 school and ends up getting the fat NAL contract, it keeps it real for them. Now is it real, definitely?
Speaker 3:not we're talking about the 1% of the elite players that go in there that are obviously built for it.
Speaker 1:But then you got the Nico Amaliva or whatever his name is. He was making two men in Tennessee one in four million. Got a million and a half at UCLA paying California taxes.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the grass is not always greener on the other side Not always greener and I think to that point that was a great thing for college football. Now I have nothing against that kid. I have nothing against him as a person player, whatever. I thought he was a good player and honestly I thought he probably if you're going to start paying these guys that much money at quarterback at that level, he probably proved enough to deserve that at Tennessee. Now the thing is is what we worry about as coaches? Now that could obviously be argued. We could circle back on that too, and I'm sure a lot of people Hell.
Speaker 1:No, I didn't watch enough Tennessee games, but I can, just judging from what Tennessee Twitter has to say yeah.
Speaker 3:They do not agree. They do not agree.
Speaker 1:But I think they're kind of scoring on that deal, yeah.
Speaker 3:For those viewers out there that are Tennessee people. I think when you compare some of the NIL contracts that are going out to quarterbacks, what's relative?
Speaker 1:right, and that's what you kind of got to look at.
Speaker 3:You know you got the guy from Michigan that's getting that much money and stuff too.
Speaker 1:Never played a college snap. Never played a college snap. To me ridiculous.
Speaker 3:You know I think you got to prove your value and then obviously you should get what you're worth, and I think that that's kind of coming back to the full throttle, you know the full purpose of this conversation the whole college football yeah the grass ain't always greener.
Speaker 1:You ask for four. Guess what you're going to get?
Speaker 3:less than half of that that's it, and what we deal with consistently is like you always worry about the kids having the power right, like, at the end of the day, coaches used to have the authority. Man, we're calling the shots. You got to trust us. We're building this thing around you. We're building scheme, we're building a program, a culture that you got to believe in. Now kids are way easier. It's way easier for these kids to flip a switch and be like you know what. I'm not buying into that, because they feel like they're entitled to something.
Speaker 1:So how do you build a culture around that?
Speaker 3:You know well, I think it's harder at some places than others, right, you know, if you're a full transfer portal team and all you're doing is taking in portal guys, how are you going to expect these guys that are on your roster for six months or a year, you know, or whatever two years even, to really buy into what we're doing now? You'll hit and you'll get some guys that are just great people and great players and great athletes, but are you going to do that consistently?
Speaker 3:no, you're not going to get it consistently if this kid transferred three times and then comes to you.
Speaker 1:You think he's that loyal to you but I'll tell you this much, and I you know I think it's a double-edged sword, like anything else in life. I think John Calipari at University of Kentucky. He was very upfront about it. He said I'm recruiting you for one year. You're going to go to the NBA after the first year. And he was like this is a one-and-done program. They didn't win the national championship but they had nothing but McDonald's All-Americans that played one year went to the NBA.
Speaker 1:That pissed a lot of Kentucky fans off. I'm a Kentucky basketball fan, my mom's side of the family all from Kentucky, and it pissed a lot of people off because they care about winning. They don't give a shit that so-and-so is going to, or who's the unibrow guy. He's coming to Kentucky for one year and then leaving. So I mean it's a double-edged sword. It is, but for one year and then leaving, right? So I mean it's a double-edged sword. It is. But yeah, I mean it's. How do you build a culture? You can't, you just can't. You've got different faces coming in every other year.
Speaker 2:Well, at this point it's kind of done with culture, right? I mean, that's not going to happen from here on out unless the NIL gets regulated by some form or fashion. And the and the transfer portal though.
Speaker 1:But I mean, you guys are building a culture, you and Coach Cardi.
Speaker 3:So I think the part of that that's very unique is some schools obviously are just going straight portal right and I think that when we're recruiting now, you see all these high school coaches getting mad like we're not taking people and that's always just because our job's on the line, you know like if we don't take people and win.
Speaker 3:Now someone else is going to fill my seat next year, right, so that's a decision that you got to make. You know like, hey, we don't want to mess up in recruiting all the time, um, but in terms of taking guys out of the portal, if you just live there, it's really hard to build a culture because these kids are still adjusting right like a second year in a system you're going to be better than the first year, You're third year better than the second, and so on and so forth.
Speaker 3:But where you really have to try to do a good job at least in our opinion and everyone thinks different is you've got to still take high school players that you can develop for hopefully four years, and those guys are part of your culture, that take the transfers under the wing and show them how it's done. For the time being, Now, the biggest issue that we face is you get a kid that's great as a freshman or sophomore at our level. He's gone. He's gone Because these restrictions for these agents to reach out to players are not there. They can call a kid in the middle of the season and it's happened, it does happen.
Speaker 3:And say hey man, you're worth this much money. In the portal when it opens, pop in, I got you, you'll be my guy, I'll take care of you. These places are saying you're worth this much money that we can't do anything about that?
Speaker 3:that's the thing that college football has to fix. Yeah, because what's going to happen is the group of five schools like us, now the fcs schools, even the d2s, are just going to be feeder schools to the next level, and it's exactly where it's heading. The best players go up and the players that don't play at the next level they send to us. The guys that don't play as a freshman, as a sophomore, but those guys aren't ready to play. The guys we send up are ready to play?
Speaker 3:They have game field, Maybe three. They might be a special teams guy and a side of the ball.
Speaker 1:And they've been through a college workout, they've been through a college schedule, so they know High school kids, it's a whole, it's a whole damn different deal. Whole different, whole different deal and it it sucks and it's I feel like it sucks for the high school kids. I think covid fucked up a lot of shit, especially for the high school kids. I think the portal, yeah, fucked up a lot of things. And you know the nil to your point is they're seeing all these guys flashing around all the stuff. It's like that guy's one percent% of a 1% Right. It's not like it came from luck. I mean, he got busted his ass, right. So I don't know, man, I don't know. I feel like I say the same thing every single time we talk about NIL and Portal.
Speaker 2:It's just from a coach's perspective. Your opinion is not going to change, you know.
Speaker 1:It's never going to change until they, until they fix it. It's got to be, it's got to be reined in a little bit and talking about that.
Speaker 2:Um, when you're recruiting quarterbacks, what exactly specifically are you looking for? I know we were talking about this on air, but can you share with the audience?
Speaker 3:yeah, yeah. So, um, you know everything is going to go based off what you're looking for for your system, um, and not to say you should always balance out your room, but you should have a good idea of what you're looking for, right? If you're trying to build a receiver room, you shouldn't take nothing but outside guys, you know you got to have some dynamic inside guys that can move and run, jet sweeps and whatnot, and the same thing at quarterback.
Speaker 3:You know it's like what do you guys do at the highest level, that you know your play caller, when the chips are down, is going to call. Is he going to have to be a great drop back passer? Is he going to have to be a great dropback passer? Is he going to have to be a great runner? Right, are we going to do a lot of things in the 12 personnel big package where you got to get downhill? Is he going to have to be a triple threat that kind of does a little bit of everything, or is he going to have to be a game manager at some level, like, will he be able to grade at the line of scrimmage and those type of things?
Speaker 3:So you always really look for those things in our system. I think the things that have been the most productive since I played for coach cardi and now I've seen it kind of uh project as a coach the dynamic players are the best ones out there the guys that can pick up 10 yards on an inside zone when they pull it off of an end. The guys that can scramble outside the pocket, extend it for four plus seconds and then find someone downfield to create an explosive play. And that's what we're trying to find the guys that can do it really well in the pocket, but when things break down they're still super dynamic yeah you know, and mobile, um, and it's really hard at our level to find the guy that's really big and still really mobile.
Speaker 3:We're not getting those guys. So at some point we got to give on that, we got to give on the size, we got to give on the speed, the weight or something along the lines that's going to to make him come to us. But in terms of what we're looking for, in my opinion, I always think it should come down to game film, right? Highlights are highlights. For a reason, these kids are pulling out what they want you to see. I want to see what you don't want me to see. I want to see what's going on when things are stressful for you. What do you do after you threw a pick? What do you do in the two minute situation, right? What are you doing on the sideline? Like, if I'm going to a game to watch a kid, how do you carry yourself on the sideline?
Speaker 1:I'm so glad you're saying this, sean. I think if you're a high school fucking quarterback anywhere in the country, if you don't watch this episode, you're a dipshit. We got we got a freaking guy that went through playing college football, is now coaching college football, giving you the fucking recipe. Right, yeah, thing is man. I just kids are so distracted by every fucking thing else. Yeah, and if you want to do it, you can't dip your toe in For sure. You better dunk yourself in there and submerge yourself down there, because it is a full-time operation, because there's other guys that you know may have more talent than you, that you know they can get away with putting one foot in. Right, those guys don't last very long. You have got to buy the fucking. I just want to go on a little ramble there, but I'm so glad you're saying this shit, man, and I'm telling you high school quarterbacks, watch this fucking episode.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's, this is real stuff and we see it every day. And to kind of finish up your question, you know, I think one of the things that's most important, I think, in everything in life right, is the confidence piece. Like, I want to see how a kid carries himself and you can see that through your interactions, right, whether you go to their house, see how they handle things with their family, how they are with their coaches, you know how they are with their teammates, those type of things. Because confidence, I think, is just the biggest thing that's going to be allow you to create some consistency and know what you're going to get out of a kid right?
Speaker 2:Is it kind of like Moneyball, where if they got an ugly girlfriend no confidence?
Speaker 1:so we can't you know what movie I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, no, no he's got no confidence.
Speaker 2:He's got an ugly girlfriend, is it? Does that even factor in?
Speaker 1:or or if you she walks in, she looks like a bit of a troll and you're like are you the dude that's a bad deal.
Speaker 3:I don't know. I haven't been there yet, so maybe we'll do another podcast.
Speaker 1:We'll figure that one out, holy shit. But no, I think you're right, I think confidence is, it's infectious. You know, I feel like you know especially, position is 90% mental for the most part, like if you have no confidence, you're fucked, you're absolutely fucked, you're not going to. You don't have the confidence to throw a 10-yard out versus you know, cover one. You can't get that ball outside to where only receiver catches it. You don't feel like you can make that throw Go over there.
Speaker 1:Next guy up, next guy up, next guy up, and that's another thing. Man, talking with these kids it's like and you, you've seen it, you've seen how I operate with these guys. You make a shitty ball, go get it.
Speaker 1:You throw a shitty ball, go get it take your take your sweet ass time, own it, because you ain't getting. You ain't getting another rep. Take your sweet time, you. You want to walk back? Walk back, that's fine. If I'm not, if I'm that kid, I throw a shitty ball, I'm sprinting, go and get. Let me get another shot, let me get another shot. I want, I want to redo that one. Yeah, but some of these kids, man, they didn't. I don't know if it's entitlement or if it's just they're. They want to be too cool.
Speaker 1:I I really don't know bro I just I just don't know and it's, it pisses me off to no end and I, you know, I'm not afraid to let it ride. You know what I feel like these parents kind of consider me like an older brother, kind of father figure sometimes for these guys, because a lot of these kids, you know, they don't hear that shit at home yeah and you.
Speaker 1:You've heard sean talk for a minute. He lets it ride. Yeah, he's not gonna. He's not gonna hold your hand through this entire process. It's like when you get here, we are fucking working, we are getting after it. So I don't know, I'm just kind of spitballing things and just trying to piggyback off what your message is.
Speaker 3:You bring up an unbelievable point and I think we see that even with our players now too. Like, obviously we're loading up the room now with Division I talent. These guys are on full scholarship, making money, all that stuff too. You shouldn't have to beg them to be what you want them to be, like to be obsessed with it, especially a quarterback. Now I can't speak for every position. Some guys might be able to turn it on a corner because they're just long and athletic and freaky and all that stuff too. But a quarterback there's so much more mentally that goes into it. Like you have to be obsessed with it if you want to get the most out of it. Right, can you show up and throw a couple touchdowns and be pretty good on saturdays.
Speaker 3:If you're just a good athlete, sure are you gonna be consistently the best player on the field if you're not owning what's going on in the classroom side of it, 100 no shot, you know, and we see that over and, over and over and I think what it comes down to and this is my take on it is these kids have so many other things that are pulling them that are exciting in life. Distractions, yeah right, whether it's you're on a campus, oh, shiny bell oh, shiny this, oh, oh new girls here, oh look at that exactly, man. I mean, oh, did you?
Speaker 3:see Patrick Mahomes new wife or wife's new tits, like who gives a fuck so much to cares, and to them that's just as exciting as playing football, which is a damn shame because when it's over, you realize it doesn't get
Speaker 3:better than this you know like everyone gets a chance to go party in college. No one cares about those stories. 15 years from now, no one's going to be like, hey, man, what'd you do at your frat party, bro? They're going to be like, hey, what'd you do when you played against Wake Forest? I saw you play in that game. Well, hey, man, I saw you beat Alabama. How many people still talk?
Speaker 1:to you about that shit. That was 15 fucking years ago. They still love it and they still talk. It's like god damn man enough no, it's never you're making me feel old as fucking balls now, yeah you know. But that's to your point, man. That's what people care about if you are not completely submerged in playing this position.
Speaker 1:The team feels that yeah, the team the coaches feel that the fans feel that you know I you know, with all my off-the-field shit I got voted team captain three years in a row. Not by coaches from the fucking teammates.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because I was the first person in the weight room, first person in the film room, last person to leave, yeah, but I was also the first person at Village Idiot, first person at Rocco's, last person to leave those places too. You know, because you know and I tell Sean this story all the time Like I didn't want to drink with Coach Spurrier, I had to fucking drink, I had to flush that shit out, His little comments, I had to flush it out. But I mean it's I'm so glad that you were hitting these points, man, and that's why I wanted to get you on here, so these kids can have a chance to kind of hear your perspective from being a player to now being on the coaches and staff. And you know, I kind of want to talk about, you know, not as much Delaware anymore, but your kind of journey from NFL camps to now.
Speaker 3:Yeah yeah. So the whole thing kind of ended. I got out of the camp. So I'm still kind of staying fresh and ready to roll and you know, I knew I wanted to keep playing because I had a little bit of a sour taste in my mouth. I think that's one of the things that drives me as a coach now, too, is you always feel like you left something?
Speaker 2:out there.
Speaker 3:And the next best thing is being able to pass that information on to someone that's got a full career ahead of them and be able to make them just a little bit sharper for what comes next. Now, don't get me wrong a lot of people looking after me and help me, but I just felt like I could have played at the next level with the right situation, and that's the thing that everyone as a competitor is always going to want back. So I ended up getting to coaching and it took me a little bit to get there. Man, I was doing some strength conditioning stuff back home. I ended up coaching actually high school ball for a year and then missed it so much that I played arena ball for two seasons.
Speaker 1:I went out west and I went to Colorado and went to Arizona for a second when you told me that I was like dude, what the fuck.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Honestly, man, I mean that football is just completely different. There's a lot you don't get out of it, but there are some great relationships I did get out of it.
Speaker 1:Yes, the relationships are that's football in general.
Speaker 3:It's everything yeah thing, because you just that was another way for me to see how important football is to most people that are in it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I still got guys that I played arena football with years ago. Now they're playing overseas and whatnot. Yeah, you know they just can't let it go. And I think the way I got into coaching was, you know, I had some opportunities. I could have gotten a real estate, I could help my family out, you know, I could have got back into strength and conditioning stuff. But, like a piece of me always wanted to kind of finish what I started and be involved in the next best thing and that competitive environment.
Speaker 3:Because coaching what people don't realize is it is a grind. They're going to wear your ass out, man. I mean you're working seven days a week. You know a ridiculous amount of hours every day. It's nonstop. I mean we go, go, go, go, go, go go. We talk all the time. I mean, trust me, I I hear you it's a, it's an operation. Now you gotta be ready for it. But there are some really rewarding things to being a coach.
Speaker 3:You know, you still get that a little bit of that adrenaline from game day and you still get to see kids succeed, you get to spend time with their families and there's some really good things that come of it. Um, that people don't realize that you get out of coaching. You know the relationship side of it. Who people are going to say they're going to hide behind now. And coming back to the transfer portal thing, I think one of the big words that's going on around in college football now is everything's transactional, saying, hey, man, like there's no relationship between me. You know I'm paying you now so you better show up and play yep. But I'm going to call bullshit on that to a certain extent, because I was just set up. You you know, I got a chance to go watch some NFL teams practice and be around those guys, and those guys are making millions of dollars.
Speaker 3:And the coaches are still interacting with them, loving them up, putting their arm around them, joking with them, having a good time. You can be transactional in terms of the business side of it.
Speaker 1:But that's also grown men that are. Maybe, right, you know, not 18-year-old old kids that are like you said, oh so and so got this much. I actually deserve this much, and you know so, and so is doing this. You know, I feel like maybe 18 year olds are a hell of a lot more impressionable, as you know, compared to a yeah, a guy that's been through the system that's now like dude, this is my job, like it's a good argument for sure, and I'm I.
Speaker 3:I will support that because I haven't been around enough locker rooms to know this is what everyone's like. But I do know that obviously we're taking care of athletes now too. You know to a degree that you know we're allowed to. And these kids still knock on my door and talk to me about what's going on in their life, man, and they still want that relationship piece to tell me what's going on with their girlfriend, what's going on and you make, you make yourself accessible.
Speaker 1:And that's why I think, and I tell you this you know not to glaze you, as the kids say, but I feel like this is just. This is the freaking tip of the iceberg. Man You're going to. You got a long way to go. You're going to take this son of a bitch far.
Speaker 2:Talking about a long way to go and tip of the iceberg. Ultimately, is your goal to coach in the NFL.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, you know, I think it's always the most, and where would you want to land?
Speaker 3:specifically, if you want to say you know, that's a really good question. I think the answer for me to that is I want to land with good people, you know, because I think what I've learned about the NFL, what I've learned about college football, is if you're with the right staff, it changes everything. If you're with the wrong staff, you'll want out fast. So you know, I'm just hoping I get with the right people that are going to take me with them and be able to mold me and be able to believe in me and, um, you know, all that kind of stuff. I think that's it right. I, you know, I'm at a good spot where I actually am in a locker room with a bunch of coaches that I appreciate and I think that that changes it. There's some tough head coaches that you don't that might run you out of this profession if you get with the wrong people. So I'm not. I mean, you can put me in Tampa. I'm not going to fight off a nice little. You know, tampa Warm weather, come on come on Right.
Speaker 2:I mean, you don't want to be in Cleveland. You're not saying that, I'm just saying that.
Speaker 1:I don't. I don't know anybody that wants to be in Cleveland even joe kim noah said it best.
Speaker 3:Uh, you know anybody that's ever vacationed in cleveland. Usually they're passing through like hey, that's cleveland, we gotta keep it moving though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, um, but is it to be head coach or is it to be an offensive coordinator or to be a quarterback's coach in the nfo?
Speaker 3:you know all three, all three really. You know, and I think as a coach you got to be able to adapt and you got to be able to run with the punches and you know if you're going to drop a picture perfect world. Everyone wants to be a head coach, their own franchise, and go win a super bowl or go win a national championship. But I mean to be honest, there's really good coaches that never even elevate from the division three level. Right, you know, there's really good coaches division two, division one that don't get opportunities because of the situation. There's so much that goes into it. You know, if you have a really good receiver, you're a really good receiver coach, but you don't got a good quarterback, that's not going to make your receivers look good. You know, if you have a really good offense but your defense lets up 70 points a game, how are you going to be the offensive coordinator of the year? Because you guys won four games, you know.
Speaker 1:Dude, it's the ultimate team sport. Ultimate team sport. Yeah, it takes. You know what? I don't know? God only knows how many coaches are on staff now. 20 coaching, 20 coaches, you got 11 guys on the field and all that. Yeah, I mean it takes everybody being on the same page, being fluid when shit goes down. You know they have a plan, they have another plan after that. Right, it takes.
Speaker 3:It takes a freaking army, it does it does and a lot's got to go well to elevate. You know, and what I'm realizing as I'm getting deeper in this profession is you don't necessarily have to be the best coach, but you've got to have people that really like you and those people will call you and give you opportunities. And I think that there's a different, there's a fine line. You know, I think the college level there's either really good X and O people there, either really good X and O people. There's really good recruiters that are not good at X and O's and obviously the vice versa. You can be a really good X and O guy without being a good recruiter. And then you got the people that are both really good X and O guys and really good recruiters, and those people are a premium now, because that's what it takes.
Speaker 1:The Kirby Smarts, the Dabo Sweeney's, Dan Lanning's, I mean these, and I don't want to throw any shade because I love this guy to death and we've gotten bombed together. Coach Muschamp, man, you want to talk about somebody that would run coaches out of the freaking office. Whatever, I don't care if he sees it or not. Shit, he knows it.
Speaker 1:He's not a head coach anymore for a reason, because he ran it like it was a military. It's like you're not leaving the office until I leave the office. I need this done on this time, right at this, you know, on this date and it's. I would not ever want to fucking do that. If I'm a coach and I'm an assistant coach, I'm the quarterback coach, I'm a GM, whatever. I'm not. I don't want to. I don't, I don't want to do that. Yeah, you know you press your thumb down too much. I'm going to figure out a way to sneak the fuck out of there, yeah, so there's different kind of coaching personalities and I just don't see that that personality works well in the college ranks, especially, would you say, bill Belichick.
Speaker 2:Well, I know Bill Belichick wasn't in the college ranks.
Speaker 1:He is now and he's also marrying some 24-year-old, so his priorities have shifted.
Speaker 2:Mildly, but he kind of treated coaching militarily right, absolutely.
Speaker 1:That was a long, that was many moons ago. Yeah, and that was professional, professional athletes take it a little bit differently.
Speaker 2:But I mean you can kind of call college players now professionals. They are getting paid to play, so they're no longer amateurs here, True Right?
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I mean definitely is that side of? It. You know, in some ways you know a little bit different. You know some of these SEC and ACC kids you know you're talking about. What's the difference? Now these kids are on one-year. You know million, $100,000 contracts.
Speaker 1:I mean Quinn Ewers took a pay cut to enter the NFL draft Right, his NIL, you know valuation was like six to eight million Insane. And now he got drafted what? Fifth or sixth round, seventh, whatever it may be, he could almost win anywhere.
Speaker 3:you know Like it's. It is insane. So there is that part of it that is starting to shift. I hope they find a way to bottleneck it a little bit.
Speaker 1:They have to dude.
Speaker 3:It's ruining. It's ruining it in my opinion. Yeah, I, I think that you know. You hope that the transfer portal people start to look in the numbers of kids that go in that actually don't find homes or they downgrade, you know, and we actually stuck in purgatory.
Speaker 1:It's, it's a bad, it's a bad fucking place?
Speaker 3:where's those stats? But how many people need to bring that to light? So these kids aren't just immediately jumping ship and saying, oh, there's greener pastures out there. A lot of times these kids are stepping back yeah, and they're going somewhere and they got to re-compete, they got to relearn a system. They're not thinking about that, and even more so. You know, this is something I I got to bring up for the viewers and for the, especially the young players out there. These kids aren't realizing that you're ruining your degree. You're ruining like you're getting. These kids are playing for three years at a university and getting so close to graduating at that university and then transferring and losing all those credits, all those credits, yep, and then they're stuck with no degree, no NFL opportunity.
Speaker 1:Desmond said that. Desmond said that the other day he was at Virginia Tech, transferred to Rhode Island.
Speaker 2:They didn't take any of his credits.
Speaker 1:They didn't have his major, so they took nothing, so he has no college degree.
Speaker 1:It's insane nothing, so he has no college degree. It's insane. You need that, yes, I mean. What's the point? I mean, the point of going to college if you're a college football player is to make it to the nfl, right, but why not get your degree? Yeah, they can't take that away from you, yeah, so we're going to take a quick little break and then we're going to come back, finish this thing up and then we're. We're going on the boat, folks. So don't forget like, comment, subscribe and hit that notification button. We're on all the social media deals. Follow at sean goldrich, uh, coach goldrich, coach, oh god, big time now. Yeah, follow the blue hens. We'll be back, but anyways, we're back talking about playing the game. Welcome back. Sports and suits, coach goldie, as they call them up there in uh, in delaware yes, sir, blue country playing playing golf up there.
Speaker 1:They kept calling. Yes, sir, Blue man country Playing golf up there. They kept calling me.
Speaker 2:Goldie. I'm like who the fuck is Goldie? You play golf. Yeah, how is golf in Delaware? Honestly not terrible man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, there's a couple spots right next to campus. What's your handicap? Probably like 12, 13.
Speaker 1:Shit, oh, okay.
Speaker 2:So you're not bad.
Speaker 3:It's way better than that. No, what's your lowest score then, man? I think all time like a 76.
Speaker 2:Bro, you're better than a 10 or a 12. Yeah, get out of here.
Speaker 3:I mean we're talking, that's a one-off there.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no. Second best score Late in the season you know, yeah, he's locked in.
Speaker 3:I've hit a couple 70s. You know like high 70s, but usually I'm in that 85 range.
Speaker 1:Did you bring in those golf balls?
Speaker 3:No, I didn't Damn it, I know.
Speaker 1:What about?
Speaker 3:who's your favorite?
Speaker 2:golfer. That is currently active, not Tiger Woods.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, it's tough.
Speaker 2:Scotty Scheffler.
Speaker 3:I mean, is everyone's favorite. But the only reason I'm going to stand on the table for this is my dad grew up with his dad. No shit, yeah. So my dad has just been the biggest fan of him.
Speaker 2:No shit. So then have you met Scotty.
Speaker 3:No, I have not. No, I'm not that close for sure, but my dad was on like was you know? Talking about him before he became big time.
Speaker 2:Was like hey man you know, I've got a family friend that's a big time golfer and all that stuff too.
Speaker 1:And as he started taking off, my dad was like that's, that is sick yeah, so he's.
Speaker 3:Uh, he's done well for himself. Yeah, he's done.
Speaker 2:Just won the pga championship ran away and then ran away from him and before that, the byron nelson the week before. Yeah, he's impressive, yeah, but yeah, so we're back, we're back at it, we're back at it.
Speaker 1:so, yeah, we were kind of going about. You know, obviously we're back, we're back at it, we're back at it. So, yeah, we were kind of going about. You know, obviously we're going to take the boat out after this. But you know, kind of transition like what is your? Obviously you want to coach in the NFL, what else, what else do you want to accomplish kind of in life? You know, just kind of go through like this is more of the life segment type deal. You know just kind of go through like this is more of the life segment type deal.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, it's a good question. You know, I think there's something like weirdly addicting about coaching football that I don't understand fully yet, and what I mean by that is, like I always wonder why these guys get fired after these multimillion-dollar contracts when they don't clearly need the money, and they still chase another job, right, these guys don't ever get away from football, I mean, and they'll coach until their 70s. You know, you're seeing a couple guys step away. Obviously, you got the big names and stuff too, but even saban was on the back end of it, you know, and I think there's something about being a competitor in this business, right, that you just can't let go of, right, if you got fired, it's because you weren't good enough, and the same reason I was talking to you guys about you know me having something left on the table for the nfl experience I think that same thing lives in football yeah I'm curious to see where that takes me in this.
Speaker 3:You know how obsessed and how far I want to go down the rabbit hole. You know I've been fortunate to have a pretty easy career to this point, but it's not realistic. In coaching, you know, you're gonna have to take steps back before you move forward, a hundred percent. You know I'm excited to see what that brings. You know, and I think for me, you know, the biggest thing is I always want to be able to, you know, elevate my experiences in life.
Speaker 3:I want to be able to do different things, like and I think whether whatever I do which I, you know, right now it's I'm all in on football is there's something about being able to travel to new stadiums, be able to recruit different players, be able to go all parts of the country, you know, be able to have a different season. All those kinds of different tasks and the things that you work for as a young coach are still ahead of me, like offensive coordinator and being able to, you know, be a head coach and whatever it might be. So I'm excited to see what that part of it brings. But the most important thing for me right now is to make sure that I am allowing the kids that I bring in to have exposure and the capabilities to be able to make it to the next level. Right, you put so much into this sport If you don't really want to get what's out of it next. I don't know all the time if it makes complete sense.
Speaker 3:Right right, you can go be an All-American, All-Conference player, and I agree that that is a great accomplishment too. But those guys usually are never done. They want a little bit more out of the game. So I'm hoping I can bridge the gap between our players wanting more out of it.
Speaker 1:And I feel like you do a damn good job. I mean kind of you don't have to if you don't want to. It's you know that I feel like that's an interesting story. I mean you, is he's coaching now with you, or well?
Speaker 3:actually I am glad he brought this up. So we, um, you know, this is really uh, an awesome, an awesome segue. This just happened yesterday, uh, for the kid. But, uh, one of our players, you know, was really I'm not gonna drop his name for yeah, yeah, to'm going to keep him off the mainstream here. But he stepped away from football. He was a great kid, great player and immediately wanted to stay around the game. He moved in. We got him a desk in my office.
Speaker 3:No shit he was sitting there grinding with me. We went through this whole quarterback evaluation thing this offseason and he was there every step of the way, you know, reaching out to kids diving into film, finding out things about them that we needed to know to make the evaluation. So he did an unbelievable job and what he wanted to do was get in the NFL office type stuff, the player personality evaluation manager type thing. So we started reaching out to some people and, um, you know, got a couple of interviews along the way and then last week he called me and said hey, man, you know, um, I got an opportunity with the chiefs. Uh, the chiefs are going to interview me and see if I can go get it.
Speaker 3:so we prepped them for holy shit did the best we could to get them ready. Um, you know, told them what kind of questions they might ask and how you can kind of handle yourself. And he called me yesterday and said the chiefs offered him an internship, uh, for the training camp that's fucking awesome.
Speaker 3:so, um, you know, I think that is one of the things I'm most proud of is like the kid decided to step away for all the right reasons, you know. It really kind of backed himself into a corner and his reasons were I don't want to do this to my teammates anymore and be kind of half in, half out, right, um, but the minute it was over for him as a player, he wanted to be back in the office and around us, around me, around the the guys, and know, I think there's a testament to that Some guys want to run away from their program, some guys want to be around it as much as possible, and if you are building a good culture, that's a pretty awesome thing.
Speaker 3:So to see him come back, work with us for a short period of time really just this spring and then immediately to go get an opportunity in the NFL, I couldn't be more happy for the kid. I know he's going to kill it. I mean I hope they see the same value in him that I've seen, because he's an awesome kid.
Speaker 1:That is. That is a hell of a story. Holy shit, Unbelievable Good for him man. Cause I know he was. He was good to Memphis when he went up there and I mean that's, that's an awesome, that's a hell of a story.
Speaker 3:Good for him man. Holy shit, unreal.
Speaker 1:But it's amazing how that kind of you know we were just talking with a current player now, but it's like what is your thought? Do you think everything happens for a reason? Are you kind of what's your thought process on that?
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's a good question too. You know, I think you do control your own narrative in some ways. I do think things. You know, people are always going to get challenged in football and I think that they can kind of create different paths for themselves. You know, I do think that at a certain point there's going to be things that are going to be presented in your career that are going to be very beneficial for you one way or another, and at the time these kids might not realize that, man, I got hurt, like you know, you blow your knee out. Man, that seems like the worst thing ever, but there's going to be a piece of that journey that's going to make you more grateful for football. Yeah, so I do think there's always that side of it, right, you know, I think competition, which I do want to touch on too is some kids are going to look at competition as such an unfortunate thing.
Speaker 3:Man, I got this kid playing in front of me and he's doing so. Well, I'm never going to get my opportunity and you know, all these things are building around me that are going to take opportunities out of my path and I just think that that is such a narrow-minded way to think. No doubt you know, like you. It's football. There's going to be great players everywhere. There's going to be guys that want it just as bad as you. There's going to be guys that are more gifted than you. Are you taking those opportunities to find a way to do something a little bit different than everybody else, or you're just gonna lay back and say you know?
Speaker 1:what you complain?
Speaker 3:yeah, this situation was not meant for me and these coaches had it out for me and all that stuff too. I'm gonna hit the portal. Yeah, I'm gonna hit the portal. You know it's not not a perfect fit, like coaches don't really have it out for kids unless you're a complete asshole.
Speaker 2:You know we want, we want the best players on the field too.
Speaker 3:Man Like, we're here to win and if we don't, we're not making these decisions because it's personal. It's you. We got to answer to some people too Right. Show up and do your work. You're the best player. Everyone will know it. If there's doubt, yeah, we're going to go with the guy. That's proven it already.
Speaker 1:A hundred percent, and that's time. It's like competition is going to do one of two things you're either going to rise to the occasion or you're going to pitch a complaint and you know, go down, go down.
Speaker 1:A very unfortunate rabbit hole yeah yeah, and you know you just got to find those guys. You got to. But I think what's what's unique about you and I don't know many, you know college coaches, but I know you on a very personal level kids want to come to you. They want to talk to you. They want, they want to talk to you about you know, off the field. You know they got girlfriend problems. They got you know great, whatever the case may be, they come to you and you're you make yourself accessible to where I don't. I don't feel like that is, especially after talking with guys that just graduated, just got done playing. I don't feel like their position coaches, their head coaches, their training staff, their you know athletic director, whatever it may be, I don't feel like that's the case in a lot of programs.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, I think it's definitely not. And I come back to like where we started off with the podcast. I think that the game has changed so much now to where kids do want to be able to have that connection, where they can actually talk to you and listen. You know you can listen to them and you can make sure you put your arm around them when it's needed and be able to pick them up.
Speaker 3:And I think one of the biggest things about coaching you know, actually this is kind of my philosophy on it all is motivation is what we do. We're supposed to bring things out of you when you don't want to bring it out of yourself, right. And if I can't motivate you, I can't make you the best player. Right, and if you don't have a relationship with me and trust me and actually value what I'm saying, you're not going to listen to me if I'm saying the best things possible for you. So at some point I got to be able to yell at you on the field, man, and tell you you're wrong. I also have to walk off the field with you and tell you why.
Speaker 1:Right, there's a why, there's a why you know. Right, there's a why right, there's a why you know. And I'm not ripping your ass just because I want. I don't want to rip your ass, but this is good.
Speaker 3:I need to. Yeah, you know, and I have to be able to be honest with you. When you walk in my office and say, coach, why am I not playing man? And I got to say, hey, man, here's the stats, here's the clips that I've seen that have separated you from everyone else in a negative way. Change this, and then we'll have this discussion again. Yeah, and I well, I gotta have that trust factor, because if I'm sitting there just bullshitting these kids, they're gonna look right through me.
Speaker 3:100 and then when they want to come have that conversation again, they're gonna avoid it right, and they're just gonna transfer and settle their problems elsewhere. At least I can tell you, man, you're gonna hear what you might not want to hear, but it's the truth and it's the best.
Speaker 1:It's the best thing for him.
Speaker 3:100 and I don't know. There's a lot of manipulation in this thing. Now too there is, you know, and some guys do it the right way. I can't speak for everybody, um, but I think that that's gotten me to the point where I think we've been able to keep a really good room together and have a lot of guys play at a high level and, um, you know, I think at this point, you know, it's always something you got to build on and when you talk about manipulation, what do you?
Speaker 1:what do you mean?
Speaker 3:well, you know, I think you're saying one thing but don't really mean it right. You know, and you definitely hear that through the profession and obviously not to call anyone out. But you know, when you're talking to recruits and stuff and you're in the portal and you're trying to find out information about kids like hey man, what's the first thing you would want to ask them what happened right? What's your story? Why are you here? Why are we on a call right now? What got you to say I gotta get out of this university because everyone you know, these kids transfer three or four times. Like there's no way three, three universities were that bad right you know, starting to become a?
Speaker 3:u problem. It's starting to become a u problem, man, like you got to look in the mirror now. If you had three head coaching changes, good god yeah like that's tough. Okay, it's a bad break, man. No, you left one place just because you weren't playing. The second place you left because some other off-the-field issues. And the third place you left because you thought the coaches had it out for you, okay, well, we're going to end this conversation here I mean one guy that sticks in my head, and you know I don't like kicking anybody.
Speaker 1:You know when they're down.
Speaker 3:But like TJ Finley, Was it Western Kentucky or something.
Speaker 1:Was it LSU, then Auburn and then I think he's been to like five different colleges. I don't know the ins and outs of it, but it's like dude. At what point? I mean, if I'm an NFL team, it's like dude. What the fuck's going on here? You could have all the talent in the world. Why are you at five or six different universities in a five-year period?
Speaker 3:Yeah, how does that match up, you know?
Speaker 1:and we'll look into all that stuff.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the numbers, the math ain't math and math does not math in those cases and you usually get to the bottom of a really quick um, you know, but these, these kids you know, back to your, you know your kind of question. The manipulation side of it is, you know, some kids that I think there is I want to go on record in saying this there's some guys that do use the portal the right way. I'm not saying that you should be in there shopping around constantly, but if you have a really unfortunate circumstance and you want to transfer one time, okay, right, if you have really good reason for it. Now, if a kid calls me and this is where the manipulation side comes in they're like hey, man, well, the coach told me that I was going to be his guy, I was going to have a chance to compete as the two.
Speaker 3:They were going to pay me this amount of money and this is how the whole spring was going to go and the fall was going to go and this is what they promised me. And all of a sudden I got to the middle of the summer and none of that was promised to me. What they promised didn't show up. Then, okay, probably because you weren't good enough, because they wouldn't just do that.
Speaker 3:Also depth right hey, man, I want you here not as my starter, but I want you as my depth guy. And they'll frame it like hey, you're going to compete with the starter, it's up to you, and never really have that opportunity. So there are some guys doing that to protect their investment, you know, and I I would see the the other side of that too, um, but you know, obviously there's there's more extreme cases than that too absolutely it's.
Speaker 1:It's like anything else. It's all a double-edged sword, at least in my point of view. You know there's, there's goods, they're bad, you know. But your job as a coach, as a organization, is to find out what the hell, what was the cause of all?
Speaker 3:that right, so got to yeah especially a quarterback. You know like and we we have that discussion all the time too is like if you're bringing a qb into your program, especially from a highly touted school, like a maybe a four or five-star kid that didn't work out at that level, and he comes in and all of a sudden he's not the guy.
Speaker 3:What's that going to do to your locker room Right? What's that going to do to your fan base when all of a sudden, quarterback play isn't really good and they're like, well, put the kid in that had the four stars. You, we put the kid in that had the four stars, he's the one. And those kind of things become an issue. So I think QB is maybe a little bit more delicate in some cases.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm glad you mentioned the star ranking. Is that part of the analytics for recruiting a kid is star rankings? Because I want to know who the fuck are the guys that are giving these kids stars.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh man I mean, that's a whole otherher animal. When we were playing, it was what was it? Rivals and 247, 247. Yeah, 247 was before or after me that we just had rivals. It was one. It was a one-stop shop. Yeah, rivals gives you the ranking how many stars you have, and that is it. Now you have guys. I see on twitter all the time you know four-star ranked quarterback from QB Hit List. Who the fuck is this guy? How did yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm not trying to, you know, put words in your mouth or anything else, but like do the star rankings mean a damn thing to you?
Speaker 3:They don't to us, we could care less. Now it does to some people. Some people just go star hunting, you know. Just because what the stars do is, it creates a ranking for your recruiting class, right, yeah, you know, and recruiting class sometimes have bonuses behind them. I'm not sure every school does, but like in their mind, they brought in the best recruiting class, so that looks good publicity wise. Right now I'm not sure if that always is the case, but that's something that just doesn't match up.
Speaker 3:You'll have you'll have schools that are the top 50 recruiting classes that won't win a bunch of games, right? So what does that really?
Speaker 2:mean, you know, is it a?
Speaker 3:fit for your program and how you really want to. Uh, you know, bring guys in and um, but it's all subjective, right? Whoever's evaluating these guys is going to be like you're gonna have an old line guy, or maybe it's an outside linebacker that's going to evaluate quarterbacks and that's say, this kid's worth three or four stars and you know, do you have a qb guy that just does it specifically? Do you have a guy that played the position at a high level? Where's his biases?
Speaker 1:because he's got to have something, you know yeah you, hey, give me a, give me a couple thousand bucks, I'll bump your stars up. Yeah, maybe that's. Maybe that's what I should do do a little little sides, little side fraud operation allegedly yeah allegedly yeah, just get a good enough title man, you'll get some money it's crazy, the whole, the whole landscape of college football has changed drastically.
Speaker 1:You know, I'm sure you've seen in the last, you know, 10 years since you know you got done playing, it's 15, or yeah, 15 years since I've got done playing. It's just 15 years since I got done playing. It's baffling how different it is now.
Speaker 3:It's changing, you know, and I do think there's some good that comes out of it. I do think that there's a lot of things that they have to work through. You know, one thing we know for sure is college football isn't going anywhere. You know. You saw that through COVID. I mean they were finding a way to play football games. I think that's a beautiful thing about this sport. People needed this For their own sanity they had to have sports.
Speaker 1:That's all people talk about. I get graphics that post all the time. Oh yeah, we're 100 days away from college football.
Speaker 3:That's all they're thinking about man. We're already thinking about the bets they're going to place Like man, good guy, that's right. Shout out Hard Rock, shout out hard rock. Yeah, and I, you know, I think there's a lot of good things that are happening, you know. I think, um, you know, it will all level out. I think we are in a phase of college football that we need to really go through the mud of it to figure out.
Speaker 1:do you see a light at the end of the tunnel as far as putting kind of like you said mentioned earlier the bottleneck, or is there going to be a bottleneck situation where the nil and the transfer portal kind of they figure out how to cap it, I guess, so to speak? Well, you know, I can't say this for certain.
Speaker 3:I think this is my own personal opinion based on the limited, you know, information I've gathered, but it just seems like everything's headed right towards NFL model. You know where guys are going to be on contract. There's going to be waiver wires. There's going to be different ways you waiver wires. There's going to be different ways. You're going to have buyout clauses, all this kind of stuff too. And you know, and why would they not? It's worked, the nfl's works for a long time, a long time. And, um, you know, I don't know if that makes sense everywhere, because schools have different regulations and conference have different regulations and who's going to be able to still pay the most? You know, obviously there's going to be different bank accounts in group of five and p4 I mean significant.
Speaker 1:I mean you. You saw University of Texas $40 million football roster.
Speaker 3:That's insane the fuck. How's that? How, yeah, and I mean that's got to be NIL and RevShare, because the new deal is $20 million yeah. They're probably. What is NIL cap? You know, like, if you have it and it's separate from RevShare, how do you, how do you, how do you police that?
Speaker 1:how do you monitor it?
Speaker 3:I don't know we don't deal with it, so I'm serving. People are throwing it out there because they all want to win. Yeah, um, it's going to be interesting. There's going to be some corrections along the way. I think, too. They're going to have to.
Speaker 1:They have to, yeah they have to be, they have to, and then I'm going to.
Speaker 3:I'm going to go on record here saying we need to start pitching for coaches nil deals, I mean, are why the hell not? Why not? Why not? Like? We are the most influential people in these kids' life besides their families? We deal with them every day. How do we get NIL deals for coaches to be able to say you know what man? You guys are also a big reason why this kid is good. There's a reason he showed up to your school.
Speaker 1:There's a reason that he's there, and that's the first time I've ever heard that Not from you, not from anyone, like no one's ever said anything like that, and that makes perfect fucking sense.
Speaker 3:I was about to tweet about it the other day. But I was like let me do some, you know, some, fact checking. We do get paid, but think about it. So, in the grand scheme of it, compared to some of these other players, no, I get it. Players are making more than us.
Speaker 2:And we're definitely getting paid. And then players are like why should I listen to you? I make more money than you, Right?
Speaker 1:There's plenty of stories like that.
Speaker 3:And NIL money on top. They're getting the rev share deal from the games and then they're getting paid on the side too yeah. I'm not saying coaches should be jets and all that stuff too, but I mean or maybe you are saying that maybe yeah, I mean, let's see if this thing gets some traction, you know we're gonna.
Speaker 1:We're gonna do our damnness to make sure that gets some traction. But I mean, that's, that's a damn good point, man, and and you're 100 right you guys are with these kids, especially the kids from out of state. You're with them more than their family members, by 90% 90% yeah.
Speaker 3:And then the other side of it, too, is like the market that, like, right now, twitter is everything. We're X. Now it's still hard to adjust to that whole nightmare, but it's everything right. It's our number one lifeline for recruiting For young guys out there that are listening to this and trying to figure out the college football world and how you get to a Division I school. If you don't have an x and you don't not have putting things out there, as we discussed before, you're not getting recruited.
Speaker 3:It's the first thing that we go to, right, we got to see all those things and but what you? That is also going to be your market for things that are going on in the nil space, who you're training with, who you're around, all that stuff too. But you look on the coaches side of it. You know, like we'll have right now I'm over 35 000 followers and all of them are usually one demographic. You know, like for the most part it's coaches and players, so there's probably some companies that can be like hey, man, like I'm trying to sell products to the people that you're tweeting about, and you have 35 000 people that are in my demographic. Why would you not hit the coach up and say hey, man, here you go. Why don't you talk about this a little bit? Show us your quarterbacks.
Speaker 3:Hook them up, man.
Speaker 1:We play on TV. That's a damn good point. That's a very valid point. It's a fair point. It's my solid pitch for the day. Man, I love that, and I love that he said I want this on record. I love that. That's the only thing he said today that I want this motherfucker to be on record. Yeah, I love it. I absolutely love it. Man, I'll tell you what this I'm so glad that you came down here and convinced you to to come down here for some recruiting, recruiting, of course, recruiting and, uh, dude, it's. It's always a blast whenever you come down. We gotta do the, we gotta go through the, the back house and finally go viral. I had to delete that video, by the way. No way, yeah, I just I didn't get as much traction as I thought I was going to be. People getting soft, oh, people, yeah, people getting soft. I was getting DMs like what are you promoting?
Speaker 3:It's like what's the matter with you? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:People are softer than baby shit man. Yeah, it's brutal, is, but, dude, this was freaking, absolutely awesome. Appreciate you man.
Speaker 3:Absolutely awesome man, let's show thank you, man, this is great yeah, yes, sir sean shout out to febre frameworks.
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