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Sports & Suits: Where Athletics Meets Ambition
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From Football Dreams to Pizza Empire With Desmond Mamudi
What happens when your athletic dream crashes into reality? Desmond Mamudi's powerful story takes us from the football fields of Virginia Tech to the unexpected path of entrepreneurship in his family's pizza business.
Desmond pulls no punches describing the brutal side of college athletics few fans ever see. After transferring to Virginia Tech with dreams of playing at the highest level, catastrophic knee injuries derailed his career. The transformation from valued recruit to "liability" happened with breathtaking speed, revealing how quickly players can be discarded once injured. His subsequent transfer to the University of Rhode Island provided a more supportive environment, but further injuries ultimately ended his playing days.
The conversation shifts to one of the most dramatic changes in college sports history – NIL deals that have athletes earning millions before taking a single college snap. As someone who played just before this revolution, Desmond offers a unique perspective on how money is reshaping player motivations. "You could have paid me 10 bucks and I would have played," he reflects, contrasting his experience with today's environment where players hold out for better compensation.
Perhaps most compelling is Desmond's journey to find purpose after football. Returning to Tampa to work in his immigrant father's New York New York Pizza chain (now with nine locations), he's learning the business from the ground up while pursuing his MBA. The parallels between football and business emerge throughout – understanding people's strengths, putting them in positions to succeed, and building something greater than yourself.
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All right, folks, we're back with another episode of Sporting Stories. We got my man, desmond Mahmoodi. Cheers man, cheers man, absolutely. So I've known Des and his brother and his family for shit.
Speaker 2:Since eighth grade man. Was it eighth grade Seven years yeah?
Speaker 1:God, almighty time's flown Seven years. So, anyways, kind of just tell us who you are, tell us what you got going on, what's going on everybody, my name is Desmond Mahmoodi.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, what's going on? Everybody, my name is Desmond Mahmoodi. I'm a former athlete from Tampa. I played football at Virginia Tech for three years and then I transferred to University of Rhode Island for a year. I just moved back to Tampa about a year ago and I started helping with my family business. We own a couple restaurants here in Tampa, New York, New York. Pizza Shout out New York, New York. We got nine locations all across Tampa Bay. You know, started out with my dad, started out, excuse me, with pretty much nothing. Zero Came to this country. You know, that's what you just said yeah, as an immigrant.
Speaker 2:So he came from Macedonia when he was nine, so now, even when he talks, sometimes his grammar is off, so we mess with him about that. Are we allowed to curse on this?
Speaker 1:I have to fuck him really.
Speaker 2:So yeah, we fuck with him all the time. We fuck with him all the time because his grammar is so fucked. I love it.
Speaker 1:It's the funniest shit. It is awesome.
Speaker 2:It's pretty cool bro.
Speaker 1:It's pretty cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, they're a great family man. Yeah, I remember, so we would throw in my backyard. And who was it? Charlie was talking shit to him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I remember. Yeah, Charlie, so this guy shows up.
Speaker 1:I was about to beat the fuck out of him. He shows up in the white pizza van the white pizza van. Pizzas are still hot in the bag and you walked right up to him. He's like you. Say one more fucking word to my brother.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna beat your ass right here in front. Yeah, man, and this is your.
Speaker 1:You were in your fighting weight.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, I was probably like. This is when I was 285,. Man, this was solid. Yeah, I was solid.
Speaker 3:I was like 285, 6'2.
Speaker 2:Uh, then I found out that charlie dean was just talking a little shit, and then I felt like an asshole because I was like bro, I'm the same way, yeah I would talk shit.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, and I'm gonna get charlie on here too, yeah, yeah, he's a great talker and that was that's what I love about doing it in my backyard, yeah, and like the, the shit talking that goes on. You know, I'll go out and see some of these other workouts and everybody's like you know, hey, nice job, man, great job. It's like dude, what the fuck you're doing great yeah, no, man, talk shit. That's what. That's what we got to do.
Speaker 1:It's the sport we play but yeah, so his brother, you know, is playing quarterback. Um, if you want to kind of yeah, if you want to, you don't have to, yeah, I don't really like to talk about it too much he just went through some adversity.
Speaker 3:I mean, he went through some adversity, something that not an adversity.
Speaker 2:Something that not a lot of people that I know can really relate to, some shit that he definitely defined, the odds, needless to say, unbelievable. You know, obviously the circumstances is something I really want to talk about, but you know, to put it in short terms, the doctors told him that he would never walk again, like he wasn't going to walk, and look hey, yeah, hey.
Speaker 1:It was my freshman year, bro, I'll never forget college.
Speaker 2:I'll never forget all that shit went down my senior year and then you know, that's when I was committed to usf.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 2:And then I was there physically, mentally I was we were all pretty fucked up that night, man it was. It was a good time, bro. I was fired up. You know we were excited, uh, staying home to play football. And then, um, you know, I think my biggest thing because you remember, I went to Steinbrenner High School here in Luce and then I transferred to Carriwa Day School my senior year. The whole point of that was for opportunity. Honestly, I'll never forget what Steinbrenner did for me, that Team 11, I still talk to those guys to this day.
Speaker 2:My junior year team to this day.
Speaker 1:You guys went four, twelve and two. You guys went to the fourth round, final four, final four.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we went to the final four, we lost to a Popka, and then Popka ended up winning Ended up winning.
Speaker 1:Yep, Yep, that's right.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, we lost man and it was just more trying to seek other opportunity. I didn't have the right guidance in the beginning to understand what I was really good at. I think I was just one of those kids that was super big and athletic and kind of got put on the D-lawn.
Speaker 1:You had a couple of rushing touchdowns though. Oh no, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I played a little bit of running back, a little bit of running back.
Speaker 2:I had that sneaky athleticism that not a lot of people saw. And then, yeah, I went to CDS. And when I got to CDS I kind of saw that was my first introduction to the business side of football. Right, that was my first introduction, like you know, where motherfuckers would flaunt their money and you do what the fuck they say.
Speaker 3:Right and I didn't have that at Steinbrenner.
Speaker 2:Steinbrenner didn't have the daddy ball, none of that bullshit going around, so I mean there was favorites. Of course, the better kids obviously.
Speaker 1:For sure, like every, yeah, like round. So I mean there was favorites. Of course, the better kids obviously, for sure.
Speaker 2:I mean that's football, like like every, yeah, like everywhere else, that's football. But you know, cds was definitely a little bit different for me. It wasn't what I was really used to well, think, let's talk about it.
Speaker 1:What is? Is the grass always greener on the other side?
Speaker 2:oh, no, man, that that was my uh. I tell my brother all the time, right, uh, and you know my brother very well, um, but I tell him all the time, like, don't, don't go searching for something, that's, if you can fix where you're at, fix it Exactly.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Exactly. My dad always told me why not focus and build the thing that you got rather than go and start a new structure?
Speaker 1:It's stupid, you know, and I think that was Well a quick little back story on his brother. So the doctor said he's probably never walking again. Now he's as a quarterback at Blake High School going into senior year.
Speaker 2:So yeah, so my brother actually last year he started for Blake, he threw, I think 13 or 14 touchdowns and I think he threw. I don't know if he rushed for any touchdowns, but I know he threw for I think, 1,500 yards. Yeah, I mean starting on varsity. Yeah, I mean this is the first time this kid's played football since he was nine years old Right.
Speaker 1:It's one of the craziest comeback stories that I've ever personally been involved in.
Speaker 2:Oh, no, me man, I'm telling you. So that's what pushed me. So, like I said, I went to CDS. I was getting a little bit more recruitment. I was still committed to USF at the time as you knew.
Speaker 1:What's CDS? Carowind Day.
Speaker 2:School. Oh okay, so I got recruited by some bigger schools when I got there. So I got Virginia Tech, louisville and a pit all within the same, like two months, yep, and I kind of came down to like a decision. And I was talking to my brother and I was, like you know, I'm gonna go to USF, like I want to be by you, like I want to be here for you, and my brother goes I swear to god, he looks at me. He goes what are you a pussy? And I said what the fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 3:that's he's like. What's your dream?
Speaker 2:yeah, and I said to play at the highest level. He said, and is USF the highest level? And I said no, and he said, well, then, go fucking play at the highest level, right, you know? And this is when he had some certain things going on, so it was kind of his personality, like. I mean he was cursing like a motherfucker. Oh yeah, the words he would say was crazy it was my brother saying that to me committed to Virginia Tech, went there, and then I started facing some adversity on my own.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean yeah talk about it.
Speaker 2:I mean you can see, yeah, man, if you can see my knees. So I had an ACL reconstruction. So I was there for like two months, had an ACL reconstruction my first two like literally two weeks before the first game. I mean I was balling out though, I was really focused, I was locked in. I mean I looked the best I'd ever looked, I was running the best, everything Playbook was down and then, a week before our first game, the coach is telling me like hey, just be ready, because you're going to be in the rotation. Yeah, now I'm 18 years old and they're telling me I'm being in the rotation for the 70,000.
Speaker 3:Playing against grown.
Speaker 2:So I'm fired up, man. I called my dad and I'm like yo, I'm going to do it, I'm going to be the one to make it to the NFL.
Speaker 2:And he was like he started yeah, I'm here for you. He's like well, just remember your health. Your health has got to be number one, sure enough. Two days later I ended up blowing out my whole knee, whole fucking knee man, and I tore ACL, mcl meniscus bolt, fucking completely ripped out my knee. I mean that was bad. And then, if you could see on my scar, they had taken my patella tendon to replace my knee. Now, with that being said, I mean I know a lot of these Power 5 schools. A lot of people are like oh man, best resources, all this money, nil, great, yeah, that's not really the truth sometimes. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I agree I mean, I think that's definitely something that a lot of people don't. You get that once you set yourself apart, once you're that fucking guy.
Speaker 1:A hundred percent man. I don't know if you know this. I got a torn labrum in my right in my throwing arm. I tore it doing mat drills in the winter and you know, our first strength coach was at Florida. He played linebacker. We called him Black Iron. The guy was fucking massive, yeah. So he had the quarterbacks doing the lineman lifts. Yep, Just a bunch of weight on your back and shit Ripping you man.
Speaker 1:So I'm doing the power clean tore it. Yeah, so I get the MRI. They're like, oh yeah, it's not a big deal.
Speaker 2:You don't need surgery. Yeah, that's kind of what happened.
Speaker 1:They don't, they don't want to spend, not on a kid that's just fresh off the fricking. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:I was and this was like. So this was 2021, going into 2022, when the transfer portal started becoming a thing. Yep, oh man. And so now, as this all happens, I blew out my knee. The doctor fucked up my surgery Like I'm telling you I know myself and so after I tore my ACL, I ended up having some complications with it. I got really fat, which was on me Like I gained a lot of weight.
Speaker 1:But you know you can't move. Never being hurt before either no-transcript this fucking yeah, like who are you again? Like what are you doing?
Speaker 2:here. I'm sitting here like really motherfucker, like you recruited me for six months before this and then now you're telling me how great I am and then I get hurt and I'm nothing to you. And it was just that's when I got, that's when I knew what this shit was.
Speaker 1:That's the nature of the beast.
Speaker 2:That's when I knew what this shit was. And then that's. I toured again so I went through. I missed all the fall. Come winter workouts, bro, I'm busting my ass. I'm back for winter workouts, of course, and I'm working my ass off. You know Matt Drills and that shit Br.
Speaker 2:The day before the spring game, bam again God. And I was like oh, my fucking God, I knew, I knew what happened. Yeah, and I look at them and I'm like, bro, I'm telling y'all, like, I'm telling them, like with my voice cracking because I'm angry, because I'm telling them there's something wrong, they're telling me there's nothing wrong.
Speaker 2:I'm asked them can I get an MRI? They said yeah. They said I get an MRI. They're like, oh, it's partially torn. I said so what do we do from here? They're like rehab it back and you'll be okay to play. Exit. Meetings were the next week.
Speaker 1:I go to know that part yeah.
Speaker 2:Wow, they looked at me dead in my face and they said your scholarship is no longer here. We don't think that you can play at this level and you need to go to a lower category. They said that you can play at like a USF Mac level school American Conference and I looked at him in the face and I said that's bullshit yeah because I was like.
Speaker 2:I was like I've been hurt for two years. I was like and nobody's done shit to help me. I was like I've been doing it all by myself. And he was like well, we talked to the trainers and they're like you're missing PT, you're missing this. And I'm like man, I'm showing up when they're telling me and the door's locked, what do you want me to do? I'm not gonna sit there and just wait for them an hour.
Speaker 1:I got Right, you know and Because you also taking a full course and they also didn't know about Eddie.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, they didn't know, eddie was Like they didn't even get to know me at all, bro, like and sorry I forgot to add. So, mind you, going into that fall season, going into that spring, my coaching staff got fired. So my coach staff.
Speaker 2:Now I got a new coach staff coming in, and that's another they've seen me play for two weeks, yeah, you know, and they see me kind of limping and I'm missing some of the drills and some of this stuff. Man, I'm fucked up. Though I'm telling them like listen bro, I'm not a pussy bro, like I'm not the type of person I've broken my finger and put it back right, I can play. Yeah, you know, and it's like now you're telling me like I'm not, if I'm hurt, I'm hurt, I'm not gonna sit here and lie to you. And so it was just one also was like you know what? Fuck this place? Like fuck, they don't give a fuck, fuck them, I'll find somewhere else to play.
Speaker 2:I was in the mindset where I was like I'll go anywhere else and walk on just to play these motherfuckers. You know like, as soon as I get healthy, I'm going to play these fuckers and they're going to see what they lost, right, because that's just how staff came in. I mean, they were nasty bro, they were a nasty coach that they didn't give a fuck about us if you were not the guy, they didn't fucking care about you. And it was sad because, like I said, I had nobody. I was in virginia, right? My family's all in connecticut and florida, you know. So it's like I don't even got nobody to talk to about this, but my roommates shout out my roommates, man, my roommates were, they were my rock, bro, because I was in a bad place mentally. Mentally, I was in a really fucked up place, like you know.
Speaker 1:There was times where it was like crossing my mind, like the worst thing possible oh, dude, I'm telling you, when you go down that rabbit hole and you're in that that dark place, there's not, there's not. Many athletes that I've talked to, that I've you know personally that have not been in a place like that no man, because nobody you know.
Speaker 2:They talk about all this mental health shit, and that's bullshit, bro. Like they say, there's all these resources where?
Speaker 2:yeah, fucking where you have one therapist for fucking nine teams and they each have 150 varsity athletes. What are you talking about? Right? When is this guy gonna see us? Yeah, I remember I went to the therapist there. I swear to you, I remember going talk to the guy or girl, I can't remember who's the guy girl talk to her and uh, I mean, she, literally it didn't even look like she was listening. She was just agreeing to, to what I'm saying. I was like, bro, fuck this, I'd rather go roll up a little, you know what, and fucking sit on the patio and fucking that's it.
Speaker 3:I'll wear this like that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Let it cook, you know. And then that's when I talked to my parents. I'm like, listen, bro, I'm going to USF, like they'll take me. I know they'll take me, like I'm going, yeah. And this is when Jeff Scott had gotten fired from USF at the time. That's right. And this is when they brought in Golish. That's right, they brought in.
Speaker 1:Golish at the time Because Jeff Scott was recruiting you. Yeah, he recruited me with.
Speaker 2:Bowers which I got a lot of respect for them, a lot like a is lethal. That's definitely a regret I have is not going to that school and kind of giving them a chance. And then, cause I didn't know any better, you know I didn't know the transfer portal and all this shit now where I tell my brother, fucking go D2, throw for 2000 yards and go fucking hit the Alabama kid, cause that's what they're going to do. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:So look at the number one overall pick this past year.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, exactly, you know Cam Ward. I mean, he went to Incarnate Ward, which was in, so that's what I was about to get into was I transferred? So when I transferred, I went to URI. Yeah, man, that place revived my career. Really, Steven, when I tell you, bro, I don't, did you see me when I was at URI? I didn't know.
Speaker 2:So I got up to 320 at Virginia Tech, fat pig, like I was sloppy, big Right meeting, we kind of like. I kind of was like I'm done here, like I just feel like y'all don't really. You basically said you don't want me here. So it's like I don't really want to be here. So you know, whatever, shake their hand, hit the portal. I got contacted by USF, unc, charlotte, uconn and URI. But the thing was so I'm waiting on USF bad, bad, bad, bad, and I'm praying that they're calling me. They're all commenting on my Twitter, all the fans and everything.
Speaker 2:And then I get a text message, an image from Coach Patrick. Now he's the D-line coach there. Now he was at FAU. He recruited me at FAU in high school. Now he went to USF. Okay, and he sent me a picture of my pizza box, new York Pizza. And I remember, when he recruited me how he would tell me how much. He and I was like how the fuck does this guy even know? So I look at the shit and I'm like who the fuck is this? And I click on it. I'm like it's the D-line coach. I'm like coach, like I'm trying to come back. So then he's like why do you think I sent you that picture? So then we started talking chopping it up.
Speaker 2:Now, prior to that, though, I had talked to U that. So then USF was like listen, like we want to get you on an OV as well. Now my URI OV was like the first week of January and USF wanted to see me the second week. So I go to URI, I go on the OV. I mean, for what I was looking for? It was an hour and a half from all my family in Connecticut. It was three hours away from all my family in New Jersey. The only people I really didn't have in Jersey and Connecticut was my parents and my brothers. So I was like you know, it's not a bad gig. So I was like you know what I'm going to see, what USF is talking about.
Speaker 2:And then I started getting a little bit worried with USF, because they started like, oh, we want to see how big he is, how he moves this and that. So I'm like I don't want to go to a school where it's a maybe when I can go to a school that I'm the fucking man. So that's when I ultimately made the decision to go to URI. I went to URI and I met the fucking greatest people. I mean when I tell you the greatest people, shout out to some of my teammates there, bro. I remember Malachi Burby, wesley, neal. I didn't get to play with this man, but Carson Primrose was another one that he was fucking nice. I'm telling you we had some Like. I'm telling you, bro, there was dudes at URI that if you put you know a couple grade points to their GPA and a couple pounds on them, the motherfuckers play at Virginia Tech.
Speaker 1:Yeah no doubt.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying. They got two dudes that I played with there that went to the NFL. One on the Dolphins, what's his name was um lorenzo thompson place for the cleveland browns. I mean, this motherfucker was a fucking whole 66, 290, but like yoked, yeah, and uh, I remember going out there first day of practice. I get into a fight with him because he is like me, like we were, like man. He would fucking bash us. Bro, he didn't give a shit who you were, everything he did was 110, you know. So I go to uri.
Speaker 2:Coaching staff is phenomenal, great coaching staff. Shout out all my coaches that recruited me. Coach flan, again coach, uh, coach, coach. Fucks the head coach's name now coach flam, coach fleming, um coach. The real coach that changed my life was coach lazard. Uh, marcellus, marcellus lazard. I mean, you want to talk about mastermind? This guy, bro, like the way he explained things made me why I wanted to to volunteer to coach to the high school kids. Yep, because the way he made shit sound in football was like he was just talking to you yeah, and that shit, just like actually gave a shit so, yeah, bro, he made you give a shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so now I get to URI. I'm working now, everything's going smooth, so I go from. I get there. Get there in January at 315. At this time I lost like five pounds Still fat and I drop all the way down to 285. From January to May Come May, we go outside, I'm running, I go to cut Boom Again my left knee.
Speaker 3:I said what the fuck.
Speaker 2:I go to them and I'm like, listen, I'm going to be honest with you guys. I knew that this was fucked up, yeah, and I tried to get help at the last school and I was like they refused it. So what do you? They said, bro, what are you talking about? Like we got you. Yeah, they sent me to the number one fucking. I don't know if you know anything about Brown University.
Speaker 2:They're like the number one medical school you can go to, I think, in the northeast, if not in the whole country. I go there, bro. Dr Tabador man, he did my surgery. My surgery took 30 minutes my first surgery took two anda half hours.
Speaker 1:I was about to say probably a little bit longer, two and a half hours.
Speaker 2:This one took 30 minutes, steven. When I tell you, I woke up the next day and I was able to put weight on my leg the first time. I couldn't even put my toes down bro. This time I could put weight on my leg. I have a video of me walking the next day, like with crutches, but I could still put weight on my leg to move.
Speaker 2:But I couldn't move. Before. That's when I started it was like, oh, these guys, they fucked me up. This is what this was. They fucked me. And that's when everything kind of started. I got my knee surgery done and then the rehab Just going bro. But I was like I said, I was like 25, 30 pounds lighter, I was stronger than I was at 320, at 280. I was stronger, I was faster, I mean I was meaner, bro. I'm telling you, I had like a four pack going into fall camp and I was hurt. You know what I mean. And so now I missed all the fall, came back spring, I was eating them, bro. I mean I was fucking Just crushing people, I was fucking killing them bro.
Speaker 2:I mean, I was eating, bro, and everything went smooth. Going into winter I started training again. We're doing this fucking tug of war bullshit. The tug of war at the.
Speaker 1:Matt Drills. Competition Like with the tire thing, yeah, like the blue thing with the handles, yep yep, and I'm pulling, I'm pulling, and all I hear is Jesus fucking Christ bro.
Speaker 2:And now it's my right knee and I drop and I look at the chain and I'm like I'm done.
Speaker 3:Like my career is over.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I said it's over and he's like don't say that, don't say that" and I was like no man, this is bad. Woke up the next morning my shit felt fine. I thought everything was straight. I said, oh okay, I'm good, I started practicing, steven, I went full Bogo practice.
Speaker 2:I was going with my shit torn the next day Because I was like I refuse to believe that this is torn until somebody shows me a picture that it's torn Because they're like I'm done with that feeling shit. Prove it to me Like if I'm playing, I'm playing, I'm going, I get out there. Man, I could feel this bitch, but I already popped some Tylenol that bullshit Put a cortisone shot.
Speaker 2:Let's fucking rock man. I started rocking and rolling and then the day before the spring game now comes the day before the spring game and the guy, dr Tabador, is like let me feel your knee. So I'm like all right. And he grabs my joint line and I, I twitch, and I'm like oh fuck. And he's like oh no, and I'm like man what?
Speaker 2:what do you mean? Oh, no, he's like that's not good. And I'm like, bro, I'm fine. He's like, no, we need to get an MRI on this, like tomorrow. And I was like that's it, you know. So I'm like this is such bullshit. And I go to him the next day. And he's like listen, there's no easy way for me to say this to you, but your right ACL is torn, god. And I'm like what the fuck? I'm like is this some like? Is this a fucking movie? Oh, and he's like listen. And I'm like, bro, I don't even want to listen, no more. And I walked out and I was like I'm fucking. They called me, uh, from the doctor's office. I didn't even answer that shit and then the trainer called me. I went. I was like I'm playing, like I don't give a fuck if my leg falls off.
Speaker 3:I need to play I need to play?
Speaker 2:yeah, I was like I haven't played in a fucking game. I, I literally worked my ass off to get here and I didn't even get to do the most fun part. I'm doing all the hard shit. I'm doing fall camps, mat drill, spring ball. I'm not even playing where I should be. And then that's when it started to uh hit me. Like that's when my mental was at its lowest. I didn't want to talk to nobody, I didn't want to hear from nobody. Um, I remember, uh, my trainer called me. He's like you know, like we're gonna support you and whatever you want to do, and I was like I appreciate you, but I really don't give a fuck anymore.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, and then I went to my position coach, coach Lazard, and I just talked to him and I just started sobbing, bro, I mean like crying like a baby, like I can't believe this keeps happening. And he was like, just so you know, like we always got you here, like we always fucking got you here no-transcript.
Speaker 1:Oh, bro, that's why he called me a fucking liability, Right? You know, like I want to be hurt.
Speaker 2:Are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 2:bro Like you know me better than probably a lot of people Like I. Them right, like I wanted him and it's just like to tell me I was a liability and it just you could see the difference in where the money was and where it wasn't. You know, like the kids at uri weren't playing for a hundred thousand, they were playing because they, they want to move their, they want to get their mom out of the fucking trenches. Yep, they want to get their brothers in the right positions. They're there because they love football.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right, that's the kind of guy that I was. I wasn't the guy that wanted I didn't need $100,000 or $200,000 to play the game that I love. You could have paid me 10 bucks and I would have fucking played. Yeah, you know, and I think that's what's changed so much in this generation compared to mine and yours and those guys that and I know I'm part of, like I'm young in this generation, but it was still a little bit different for me because the NIL shit isn't what it is now, correct yeah, before you and we're going to take a quick break here in about 20 seconds but we had Deontay out here and he was saying that he got paid $1,600 a month.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I got $48 a weekend, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's fucking ridiculous.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's fucking ridiculous At an SEC school. Yeah, as a starting quarterback.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Get the fuck out of here, bro. Quarterback is $4 million no-transcript.
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Speaker 2:It's unreal. I mean unreal, I just, you know it's kind of funny to me because it's like a fucking joke to me yeah. You know it's what the fuck are you asking money for from alumni when you're making at least South Carolina right, south Carolina's fucking 80,000, you guys, stadium At least At least. Yeah, I mean they should be fucking paying you a stipend now.
Speaker 1:I mean you the guys like you, Tim Tebow. Now All this talk about reparations. I want my fucking reparations. Hell yeah, that's ridiculous, bro.
Speaker 2:Think about bro, you don't. This is why I try to tell my kids, bro, that I coach at Blake. I'm like listen, you motherfuckers got to understand something. This shit is a business, right? Well? You know, yeah, yeah, man my brother started talking about it and I was like just worry about football. Worry the fuck about football. The rest will take care of itself.
Speaker 1:It'll come right, but you know talking about the NIL and so I was not privy to that. You know, I graduated in 2011. Yeah, you were kind of at the very, very beginning of it, yeah, and now you see these guys that are getting paid fucking blows my millions of dollars.
Speaker 2:Dude, it blows my mind. I mean, they're not, they're not even good they're not worth what the fuck?
Speaker 2:they're not fucking good, you know because I'm a very straight up person. Yeah, like, if you're a good football player, I'll tell you like, hey, you're a decent football player, but in my opinion, if you suck I mean you probably suck yeah, you know what I'm saying. And it's like I was just telling steven the same thing like bro, when I was playing, you could have paid me a fucking bag of chips and a sandwich just to eat before halftime and I would have fucking played my heart out. Yep, you know. And it's like now these kids are holding out because they're not getting a contract. Did you hear about the kid from Tennessee? Yeah, what the fuck.
Speaker 3:What was it the?
Speaker 1:Nico kid, so he was getting paid $4 million, $4 million $4 million Wasn't enough $4 million at the. University of Tennessee in Knoxville, which college town? $4 million goes a long fucking way Tennessee. So he said he wanted what did he say? He wanted 6 or 8. I think he was getting 2 and he asked for 4.
Speaker 2:That's right, it was 2, he was asking for 4 and they were like fuck you no, and so he didn't come to he didn't show up to practice for like what week? Like wednesday to friday he didn't go to practice so hypo was like you know what?
Speaker 1:fuck? You see, you kicked him up. Don't don't worry about you, don't even worry about showing up. You're not. You're not part of tennessee anymore.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so then he's shopping around ucla, I think they're offering him they gave him like a million dollars but they said, uh, it's kind of funny because, like in tennessee, there's not a lot of a lot of taxes. Right in ucla la in california, I, you're getting fucking a million is $800,000.
Speaker 3:You're getting hit over the head.
Speaker 2:So he went from a $2 million paycheck to an $800,000 paycheck because he wanted more and I'm looking here and I'm like why? The fuck are you even giving him $800,000? Fuck him.
Speaker 2:Now you should tell him bro well, this is kind of it's kind of funny. I don't want to put too much of my friend's business out there, but I got a couple friends that go to Virginia Tech. I got some friends in the NFL as well, but I talk a lot more to my guys at Virginia Tech and I was like so one of my guys, he's a starting linebacker, like that. I mean fucking nice, this kid is Isaiah Simmons, like stereo, like fucking to the T, he's getting paid six figures, right. This other kid who, kind of me and him, had very similar situations. He got hurt when I went same time as me we I had knee surgery, he had shoulder surgery. He tore his labrum, then he fucking tore it again, and then he tore it again and then they put a bone to hold his labrum and his shoulder in place what is going on in there?
Speaker 2:and then he broke his fucking leg right, so now they're paying. Now this kid plays linebacker, too right. He plays on all special teams. This kid gets 1600 a month, while the kid that stays with him in the same room, lives in the same house, gets six figures, and I'm not talking about it's over two hundred thousand dollars yeah and it's like and not just that, you're in fucking college, your rooming is paid for, your food is paid for, your everything is fucking paid for.
Speaker 2:So three hundred thousand dollars. You're in fucking college, your rooming is paid for, your food is paid for, everything is fucking paid for. So $300,000, you're putting in this bank. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Hopefully. I mean, you should probably have a car by then. There's guys that are blowing through that shit. Oh yeah, bro.
Speaker 2:Those fucking chains and all this fucking stupid shit. I tell my brother, if my boy that gets six figures, you know what he wears on his necklace? It's this. I swear to you. He has a fucking and it was a gift from his mother. He is the most humble person. He drives a Tesla. He bought a Tesla because it saves money. He's very frs. He's doing it the right way, but not these fucking kids that you go to Florida. They give you fucking $2 million and you spend $500,000 on fucking chains and renting cars.
Speaker 1:It's baffling. You remember Lex Capitano?
Speaker 2:Yeah, the wide receiver.
Speaker 1:We had him on the podcast yesterday.
Speaker 2:We go Furman right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and he was talking about basically the same thing you were saying, and I feel like that's kind of y'all's generation. You guys were on the beginning side of NIL. It's like they just don't make players like that. I mean, there's very seldom, it's seldom.
Speaker 2:They got dogs.
Speaker 1:There's guys that are going to play because they love the sport. Then there's guys that want to just chase the bag.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, that's unfortunately what it's come to Like. I was even telling my brother, like you know, like URI, like I said, I got a lot of love and respect for URI, but my brother wanted to go there bad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was saying that, yeah.
Speaker 2:Really bad. And you know the coach had like hit him up. I'm not going to say the coach's name because they would throw him under the bus bus but he hit him up like, hey, I'm gonna be at your school at like 7 am throw him under the bus, bro, don't you? Sorry, coach flan, but yeah, so yeah, he fucking, he texts my brother, gets my brother's fucking jumping in the air and in the house. But I wake up. I'm like god, like what the fuck you got going on yeah he's like bro.
Speaker 2:He's like bro. You hit me up like I think he's gonna offer me. Like, finally, like bro, I swear to you, I'm gonna commit. Like I just want to play. And I was like bro. Like that shit is real, that's raw. Like that's somebody that wants to fucking play. You don't give a fuck what you give him. Just a scholarship is good for him. You know just to pay for his books and his housing and he'll fucking do the rest, man, and the coach calls and brings him in and he goes up to. I just wanted to let you know in person that we're not bringing another quarterback for 2026.
Speaker 1:We have five already.
Speaker 2:A simple phone call would have been.
Speaker 1:No, he was already ignoring my brother.
Speaker 2:You should have just kept fucking ignoring him yeah. You know why are you going there telling the kid. Now the kid.
Speaker 1:He's excited about showing up and then.
Speaker 2:He gets there. Bro, my brother listen, we live like 45 minutes from Blake.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:It takes Eddie like an hour and a half to get there from school, with the traffic in the morning.
Speaker 2:Bro Eddie woke up at 6.30, got the text at 7, and left Like right. Then he got to school at like 8.15, bro, just for this coach to say that shit to him. And it's like coaches, do you even know what you're doing to a kid when you say that shit Like he? I promise you, steven. And I was even telling him because I had to get in his head because he was like this is bullshit, like I don't even know if I want to do this, and I was like shut the fuck up, yeah get off.
Speaker 1:You've worked. Yeah, you've worked, you've already fucking done this shit, bro.
Speaker 2:Like you being the fucking person that they underestimate, it should be known for you. It was the same for me, dude. I was a white defensive lineman and I was 6'2, 280 right, you said it yourself, I should have been a guard. Everybody knew it. Everybody knew that that you, that white boys playing D-line ain't really a thing. You know what I'm saying. And it was like me kind of being the minority in that part of the game. I was like fuck that, bro, why not?
Speaker 1:I can fucking do it. Use it as a chip, I can fucking do it.
Speaker 2:And I took it. Not just you, it wasn't just you, it was fucking everybody around me. My own parents were like, like you should play your line, it's safer. You'll, you'll be, you'll be this, you'll be that. Fuck that.
Speaker 3:But I know what I want to do I mean one of the best uh de's right now is aiden hutchinson's.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah I mean, but and that was something that another one of my coaches shout out cory rush. He was at, he was a ga at the time at virginia tech. Now he's a coach at washington. So he's fucking, he's moving. But he told me himself he's like most white demen if you play D-line as a white boy, you got to be yoked the fuck up. Oh yeah, you know what I'm saying, because they ain't going to take no big slob. You know, like I started that Mason Graham kid, like I think he's good, but I don't think he was that far off from me.
Speaker 2:if you want to be honest, you know what I mean he was 6'4" things. But yeah, back to the whole URI thing. So yeah, that really fucked up my brother's head and I was like, bro, why are you letting that fuck with you? Like I told him, I'm like, what are you going to gain? I'm like go D2, all right, d2, you go to a good D2 school.
Speaker 1:Like you WS Somewhere that wants you, they want you to play, they expect you to play. Yeah as opposed to yeah you here's. Here's a little sympathy offer, or yeah, just pwo, go be a pwi uri and fucking.
Speaker 2:Why? Yeah, why you want to play football. We're not there to fucking put on a jersey bro, that's not how we are right, we want to play.
Speaker 2:And I told him I'm like bro, I'm like you, go to a decent d2 school. Right, because he has a caliber. He, my brother, could play at fcsd2 school easily, easily, I think he can even go to a american conference, these conference usa schools, and he could be a decent player. Um, now, as far as like virginia tech, south carolina, he's not ready for that. In my opinion. I think that takes a little bit more maturity and understanding of the game.
Speaker 1:Truly and that's you talk about business, man.
Speaker 2:It is, it's a fucking and you know my brother, he's not ready for that side of football Because, like I said, they fucking broke straight to my face, called me a liability and I'm a lot mentally stronger than my brother. You know, like, to me that was like he gave me the finger and I gave it back Right and my brother would get the finger and kind of shut down and be like why am I a liability and getting his head and shit like that and it's like you're not ready side of the game, brother so is d1 scouting d2 and d3 absolutely oh yeah, are you kidding me?
Speaker 2:so that's actually so. That's why they said that. He said so. He had told my brother that day that I have five quarterbacks, and I'm only looking at quarterbacks in the portal that's so.
Speaker 1:That's the thing is that this whole transfer portal has fucked these high school kids up hard, I mean really hard.
Speaker 2:I mean think about it. It's like you want a kid that is 18 coming out of high school. That really like. I remember me coming out of high school bitch.
Speaker 2:I didn't know the field and boundary right, you know what I'm saying and meanwhile you got a kid that's d2, that's all-american d2, that knows zone coverages and run schemes and blocking schemes and all this shit, and it's like hell yeah, I'm gonna take him, for he's only gonna take up two years of my of my roster and he's gonna play for me immediately rather than having a kid that's coming in for four years or five years that I got to honor their scholarship. So that's what they're all doing now, especially these smaller schools like.
Speaker 2:URI, dude, they got me and Deion. You remember Deion Silas?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, greg Gaines, and Greg Gaines. Holy shit, we were just throwing with him.
Speaker 2:Dude. So Deion, me and Greg. Deion was the most dominant D tackles in my class in Tampa. Greg was the most dominant wide receiver in 2022, by far in Tampa, in my opinion. Yeah, right Now this guy got two Iowa State guys and a Virginia Tech football player. Why? Because we had nowhere else to go. We just wanted to play bro Right, right, like even Greg, like I don't I know I was close with Greg at URI. Bro Greg is a fucking specimen. I mean, this kid is all of six four 200 pounds and that's, we were talking shit.
Speaker 1:The other day I was like he used to play quarterback, he used to train with me and I was like dude, where the fuck did you get your height from?
Speaker 2:Because it ain't, it's not your dad, yeah, no, fuck, no from somewhere.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I mean this kid, you know.
Speaker 2:So it's like. But that's what these schools do, bro they wait, they wait, they wait, they look and they see who don't got a home Right and they go here and they give you the bare minimum Right.
Speaker 1:I was getting fucking Because they know they can get you cheap.
Speaker 2:I was getting $6,000, $7,000 a semester life. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So, and it's not virginia tech, where you have a fucking, only an athlete's dining hall where they're cooking fillets and fucking lobster, you go to the dining hall there it's fucking frozen chicken nuggets and fries.
Speaker 2:I'm an athlete. I'm not eating that shit. You know what I'm saying. I'm not eating that bullshit. So it's like I was like, damn, like this, this, that was a reality check, you know. Like like these, these power five schools. The only difference is they're fucking spoiled. Yeah, you know they got, because I'm telling you, there was this one motherfucker. His name was Wesley Neal Jr Steven, if you ever get the chance I'm not bullshitting you look this motherfucker up. He played at URI. He was a nose guard. He was six foot 300 pounds. He ran a four, seven, jesus, he ran a four, six, eight, four, seven" that range.
Speaker 1:That's scooting.
Speaker 2:His split time was a 1'3" 1'3" 10-yard dash, so it was a 15-yard buildup to a 10-yard dash.
Speaker 2:He ran a 1'3". Our receivers were running 1'1", 9'9", 9'8", all D-line were running. I ran a 1'09", a 1'1", 1'2". This kid ran a 1'03" at 300 pounds. That's moving. Three at 300 pounds. That's right mentioned 500 pounds. I mean, I'm telling you you can, I promise you, I said it to him too. I said line him up against any starter at virginia tech. He will fucking run. Fuck him up. Yeah, he will run fucking through, because that's what I was doing. I was on scout team and they're getting mad at me for going too hard. Fuck you and your starters. I should be out there, right, you know? And it's like you're putting me on scout team just just thinking I'm just going to get run over. That's not the case here, pal.
Speaker 1:That's not going to happen. That's not going to fucking work for me. That's not the case here, pal, I'm not your fucking rag doll, bro.
Speaker 2:I'm not your fucking practice dummy, like I wasn't trying to make a statement. Yeah, you know, and it's just like I said, just, and even guys like you and your generation the underappreciating value. It went from zero to fucking hundred In the blink of an eye, in fucking two years. Yeah, I mean, now we got kids. I mean even the fucking kid that just signed to the Bengals, shamar Stewart the D-lineman. He got a $40 million contract and he didn't like the way that it was structured so he sat out of practice. Are you fucking kidding me? Just pay me enough to pay my bills and I'll be there. You know what I'm saying? It's just like the love for the game is kind of the respect and love for the game is kind of going before we know it.
Speaker 3:A hundred percent, but you got to think about it, man. There's a reason why. Look what Virginia Tech did to you. There's no loyalty to the player. Why should players be loyal to the fucking?
Speaker 2:school. That's another. It's the truth.
Speaker 1:It's a, and I was telling Lexus and you know I tell this to everybody that listens it's. It is a double-edged sword. You know, on one end it's like you got this much time in your life to make money in this sport why not try to?
Speaker 3:make as much as you can. Well, yeah, it's like I met that for single moms that kind of situation.
Speaker 2:I understand that, but when you got a kid like this fucker from Texas Tech I don't know if you heard about that receiver he requested $700,000, three vehicles for his family hotel expenses all paid for.
Speaker 1:Yes, out of high school he was no he was at Texas.
Speaker 2:Yeah, out of high school he went to Texas. Tech and then he went somewhere else and he went back to Texas Tech and now he's transferring again because he just got kicked out of Texas Tech, because he was asking all this money cars for his family, all hotels and travel fees paid for for games up to 10 tickets- Bitch are you fucking kidding me.
Speaker 3:I mean that might be cheaper than giving him a million dollars though.
Speaker 1:10 people to pay for travel and tickets every weekend and food and board and everything and all that shit, bro.
Speaker 2:And he's getting 700 000 and he's getting. He wanted private driver for fucking all of his transportation. Fuck you. I would have said to him did he get it? Huh, they gave it to him in the beginning and then they took it away because it's like it's bullshit.
Speaker 1:Yeah he sat out of practice because they didn't give him everything he wanted you saw university of texas, clay travis just said it they have a 40 $40 million roster.
Speaker 2:University of Texas. Oh yeah, oh yeah, that's fucking ridiculous.
Speaker 1:How do you sustain that?
Speaker 2:That's fucking ridiculous, Like how do you, unless? Texas is making that much money, but then you expect a team like fucking Kent State or Bowling Green to compete, To compete right.
Speaker 1:It's bullshit yeah.
Speaker 3:It's bullshit that pays it.
Speaker 2:It is, but it also does depend on the university, because, like, for instance, notre Dame, because when you make it to like the playoffs and you go to those Final Four games, your school gets paid. Yeah, but it's not the school, it's the conference. So if you're an independent school, like Notre Dame like Notre Dame got $9 million- yeah. Right Ohio State had to split it or no? Ohio State and Texas and Alabama.
Speaker 1:Whoever it is. Yeah, they got to split that across all teams.
Speaker 2:Notre Dame's getting $5 million, while Texas and Alabama have to split $5 million and $2.5 million and $2.5 million. So, Notre Dame just spent $5 million on just players.
Speaker 3:I wonder how much the school makes just from attendance at a home game.
Speaker 2:Oh, bro, they fucking.
Speaker 1:Well, now they can sell booze now too, yeah, I mean, I remember Virginia Tech, bro.
Speaker 2:every fucking game was sold out, bro. That was the craziest shit I've ever been a part of, though that's one thing that I was like, thank God.
Speaker 1:What was it? The Inter-San man, Holy shit.
Speaker 2:That is still. I mean, everybody likes to go to one. I'm going up. This year we should go. If you want to come, let's go.
Speaker 3:I'm going to tell you right now how much schools make per home game? All right, $10.88 million per home game, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:For what conference? Or is that just?
Speaker 3:That's the average across all colleges.
Speaker 2:Go look at fucking Big Ten, sec and and how many home games do they have?
Speaker 3:Six, six or seven, six, seven, so you're talking about $70 million.
Speaker 2:Well, with the playoffs, now too, bigger schools get the home games too, so you could even say like 10.
Speaker 3:Yeah so, they're making $100 million. Yeah, $100 million.
Speaker 1:So, $40 million really isn't that big of a deal.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I guess that's I don't know, man, it is much money before the NIL.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, yeah. Well, that's why guys like him and Team Tebow. They got fucked, bro. It's bullshit. You're giving this guy $46 a week. Not only that, but they're making money on merchandise as well.
Speaker 3:Your jersey $46 a weekend, and then they're making money on the NCAA games that EA Sports is putting out. Bro, they got plenty of money. I wouldn't feel sorry for these universities.
Speaker 2:No, I feel sorry more for the players, because their mentality is now their entitlement.
Speaker 1:That's a great fucking phrase.
Speaker 2:They believe that they need that money because it's what they're worth.
Speaker 1:And they deserve it. I mean, yes, I think guys should be getting paid A hundred percent, but it should be some sort of. To what degree? Some sort of like pay for play kind of structure.
Speaker 3:It's like okay so my contract in.
Speaker 1:Montreal it was base salary, then you have incentives. So my contract in Montreal it was base salary, then you have incentives. You throw for 300 yards, you get an extra bonus. You throw for three touchdowns bonus.
Speaker 3:You get bonuses, basically yeah, incentive-based, and then put a salary cap on the team.
Speaker 1:On the team, just like every other professional sport. Or the position, or the position yeah, it's ridiculous Dude.
Speaker 2:they paid the Bryce Underwood kid from Michigan $10 million.
Speaker 1:Out of high school.
Speaker 2:Fucking out of high school. You haven't taken a snap in college.
Speaker 1:He threw a trick play touchdown in the spring game and everybody's like, oh, that's such a great take, what the fuck.
Speaker 2:I would have fucking made that throw. My brother would have made that.
Speaker 3:We looked this up yesterday NIL, money is not guaranteed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that is, that is I.
Speaker 1:I think it's different, though I think guys that are, and this is a Fantetti question. I think it depends on the language of the contract. If I'm an agent, I'm saying, yeah, this amount is guaranteed regardless.
Speaker 2:Kids in high school have agents now bro, I know, Everybody has a fucking agent now. Now you have somebody to read through all that bullshit and pick exactly out what you want, and it's like it's not guaranteed, but they're going to get it. It's not guaranteed, but they're going to get it. Yeah, Steve is actually doing some of those.
Speaker 3:Out of high school. Like NIL, deals the lawyer Fantetti. He's already representing a couple. I think I might have heard of him. Is he from here? Yeah, yeah, I've heard of him, steve Fantetti, yeah.
Speaker 2:But it's like, yeah, I mean, that's the kind of shit that is just like that's what this game is turning to. I'm losing a little bit of love for it because it's like, bro, you in our time was about ball, but I think it's not just us, it's fans.
Speaker 1:People that are actually cutting the checks, alumni that are cutting the checks.
Speaker 2:It's bullshit. At the same time it's like why am I going to donate to a school that's making he just said it $100 million in home games?
Speaker 1:But they're asking you for a donation back and then you have a kid that says, yeah, I'm not playing the second half, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:I just don't feel like it.
Speaker 3:But then they're also charging $30,000 a semester for each student. That goes to that motherfucking college.
Speaker 1:That's high school, that's a certain high school, that's a high school in the area, all right.
Speaker 3:so college I mean closer to $50,000 per semester, right, they told me that a four-year scholarship is worth six figures.
Speaker 1:Oh easily.
Speaker 2:So at our level, the bigger Power 5 level, they said that a four-year scholarship is worth a six-figure deal. Now, at the same time, like you said, when is enough enough, right? You're paying Bryce Underwood $10 million. Now what are you going to do when a kid is better?
Speaker 1:He's a freshman that plays like Bryce.
Speaker 2:Underwood.
Speaker 1:Well, my argument is it's like if I'm the starting quarterback at University of Michigan I played last year yeah, you're paying me, just say $2 million. You're going to pay this kid out of high school fucking five times as much. Yeah fuck you, he hasn't taken a snap, yet that's bullshit. That's going to be a huge contention in that QB room.
Speaker 2:No, 100%, and it's like I said. You have a lot of these kids that like, for instance, me, me and my money. Money was never a worry for me. Like my father, he, we were very poor growing up, we weren't. My parents were very poor growing up and they struggled. And then we saw, like you know, our first couple years like until I was like 10 years old, 11 years old, you know.
Speaker 2:You know, when I turned 15, 16, my father's business started taking off and it was like you know, and and that's where the biggest misconception is, Cause it wasn't about the money. You know, like it never mattered to me about that, Even if I was broke, it didn't matter to me about the money.
Speaker 2:Just want to play, you know, I just wanted to fucking play you know, and these kids nowadays, like you, don't, have a lot of kids that just want to play. They, bro, I get it. You got to get paid too. You're putting your body on the line. Your mental health is on the line. You have to sacrifice your life Because if you really want to be a good football player in college, fuck the parties, fuck the bitches. I don't care what nobody tells you.
Speaker 3:Definitely fuck the bitches If you want to be a good football player it's going to be hard for you to do all that.
Speaker 1:You have to make sacrifices. You know, I tell Memphis and I tell Eddie the same thing the guys that I think are going to be able to get an opportunity to play college football. It's like you have a guy that is coaching you and has been coaching you for a long damn time. You guys have all Googled me. You know exactly what the fuck happened with my whole situation. I couldn't turn it off the switch. I was full speed football, full speed off the field, listen, but at the same time did it affect your play.
Speaker 2:couldn't turn it off the switch. I was full speed football, full speed off the field, like that's just I mean Listen, but at the same time did it affect your play.
Speaker 1:I don't think, I don't.
Speaker 2:It didn't.
Speaker 1:That's. You know, it's a, it's a Like the same thing with. Johnny Manziel bro how are you going to tell Johnny Manziel Like I feel like I could have played better. Yeah, but that's who the fuck knows?
Speaker 2:Well, at the same time, where were the people to fucking guide you? Where were the people to tell you, hey, Steven.
Speaker 1:Don't get me wrong, they tried. I'm extremely hard-headed.
Speaker 2:I think you know that I mean QB won though, yeah, but it's like you can't, I just want to throw a figure out here real quick all right all the uh four-year schools in 2020 made 926 billion dollars billion
Speaker 1:billion with a b well shit, I guess I'm 10 million.
Speaker 2:Fucking, throw me a million, I'll come fucking be a ga somewhere oh, my lord I fucking watched the jockstraps for 500 000 that's that's, that's, but that's insane, like. But then now how you gonna tell a kid how you paying this kid sixteen hundred a month, right, that's fucking thirteen thousand a year if that yeah, that's chump change you know what and you're making with a b almost a trillion dollars almost a trillion, and that's a year that's per year, per year, you know.
Speaker 2:So it's like now, when? How do you tell these kids like no right, you know they said you're putting out these statistics.
Speaker 1:It's the same thing, you know, like with you know how easy, how easy that was for him. Just look that. Yeah, we just look.
Speaker 2:I mean, shit, it's not that fucking hard, you know, and this is, it's something the same thing that I see, like in business with my dad, like with the, with the restaurants and everything. It's like, you know, like it's hard to please a lot of people. You can't, you know, because at the same time, you have somebody that's really doing their job, that's making the same pay, and then you have somebody that isn't doing the same exact job, that's that's not doing the same amount of weight and getting the same pay, and it's like, why, what's different about that? Well, this person is better at this and this person is better at that, but they don't see it like that. 100, you know, and it's like. It's like a coach can be, like, you know, you should be here just because you want to be here. You shouldn't be here because you want to get paid. But then a player is like, well, I'm putting my body, my all this. I want to get paid. It's, it's fair, it's what's fair, you know.
Speaker 1:So I got a family too.
Speaker 2:I got yeah bro, it's like, bro, you know, I mean I saw it definitely. I saw it at virginia tech and at uri, but I think you saw it as well, as is a lot of these kids that do go, you know, and it's like even some of my boys.
Speaker 1:All the eggs are in the basket.
Speaker 2:You either go to the league or you go back to the block. You know, that's what my boy was saying to me and it's like a lot of my friends, bro, that you know they came from that background. They have made such a difference in their life, you know.
Speaker 2:And like, I think, like you know, dion, yeah, yeah, I mean you know he lost his brother at a really young age, at eight years, I think eight years old, and you know it was on his. They had a crazy fact like it was eight shots, eight years old on the eighth day of the month. So now he has a tattoo on his bicep with an eight ball about his brother Melvo. Yeah yeah, and I mean. This kid moved from Memphis to Lutes, Florida, with his aunt and nephew.
Speaker 2:I I mean his aunt and uncle and he fucking tore it up. He did I mean, as a freshman he tore it up. You know, that's all he had. Bro Deion was 5'5", 160 pounds.
Speaker 1:That's all he had. You couldn't be able to touch him in this frickin' studio, though. Dude, no, hell no.
Speaker 2:He was shifty as shit. I mean that kid. He's one of those kids that, even though he came from the tough background, brother, it wasn't for the money, bro, I swear to God he loved ball. He wanted to play football, bro, and he was paying. He was helping his mom with bills. Like me, I didn't have to send money back to Tampa. You know, my parents were okay, me it was, I'd get money and I'd get to enjoy it.
Speaker 2:Right, he really needed the money because he needed his help yeah, his mom is working her ass off his sister's work she's working her ass off. He's got nieces and nephews. He's got to help out. He's got to be the man you know, and it's like that kid does deserve a six-figure fucking deal. Agreed, you know? Not fucking uh uh. Joe schmoe from california, who comes from beverly hills. You're paying him fucking five million.
Speaker 1:Fuck you, that's how I would look at it yeah, I you know, and that's how I would look. I feel like a lot of people would look at it like that, yeah bro.
Speaker 2:I think that's the best way to look at it.
Speaker 1:in my opinion, it's really the only way, right, if we're being honest, yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, if you're going to base it off of what the kid is coming from and what he's making, then do that. Yeah, you shouldn't be paying a kid fucking six figures when he's coming from the south side of Memphis you know, that he's got bullet holes in his car and he's got fucking. He's got a. He can't go back home on break because he don't want to get caught up in the bullshit, in the bullshit yeah, I mean, that's a real deal.
Speaker 2:You know, and Iowa State did him crazy he was the best back on that depth chart in my opinion, after Brees Hall.
Speaker 3:I hate to interrupt guys. I hate to interrupt guys. So we got time for one more 10-minute segment. Yeah, and then we'll be right back. So like, comment, subscribe, follow and hit those notifications. We'll be right back with Sports Institute.
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Speaker 1:I want to take a quick little break here to introduce one of our newest sponsors. We got New York, new York pizza. All right, they're based out of Tampa. Great family, the Mammuda family, own it. I've known them for probably 10, 15 years at this point, but anyways, great, family oriented pizza. They have nine locations. There's South Tampa and Soho area, there's Carawood, west, chase, Bradenton. I mean they got nine locations. They're expanding to a couple more.
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Speaker 2:And then you're here now hey, you got to find a way right. I think that was my. I just like you know, I just moved back from uh, from rhode island, about uh, about a year ago now, so may 13th. I came back last year, um, so it's been a little bit over a year now, a couple days over a year it's uh. It's been a little different right going from you, from you know we're, you know football right In college. You don't really have people on your head 24-7 and you're not staying with your parents and you know you're kind of just focused on football and school and you're having fun.
Speaker 3:I mean, I'm not going to sit here and act like it's fucking Nazi you know you got to fucking.
Speaker 2:I mean, I was drinking, I was having fun, I was going out with girls, going to parties and that kind of shit. I wasn't sitting in my room on a Friday right right it definitely was a little different. I came back home because I just went through a big identity crisis after I couldn't play no more and I called my dad and I was like listen, I don't want to do this school shit, I do not like school.
Speaker 2:And it wasn't that I didn't like school, it was the degree, because when I went from Virginia Tech, I was getting my property management degree and my business degree as well and then when I went to transfer to URI, they didn't accept my business credits and they didn't have property management as a degree, so they just threw me in some fucking psychology shit and I was like I'm over here fucking psychology come on, man, I don't want to be a fucking psychiatrist. What do I look like? You know, like I already. I don't want it. I don't, I'm not the biggest fan of it right, so I was like you know what?
Speaker 2:like I told my dad, I was like, listen, I can stay at uri for the next three years because after all the new shit, I could have stayed for three years and got my degree and all that the whole yeah but I was like in three years I'll be 26. What am I gonna do after this? Anyways, right I said I'm gonna fucking get a job, maybe become a psychiatrist and do what like I don't.
Speaker 2:I don't want to be yeah, you know, the goal isn't to be average, right, the goal isn't always to be better. And you know, I was going through like a huge identity crisis when I first came back to tampa, like who do I want to be, like what do I want to be, you know, and I talked to my dad and he was like listen, like come work with me, and like, you know you were really, because I was working with him since I was 12.
Speaker 2:So, this shit was like back of my hand, like I knew what I was looking for. Now it's good, but a lot more of it now is business. So it's like you can't really be too friendly with people because now when you go to correct that guy he's going to look at you like bro, what? And it's like you got to be the boss. So when I first came back, that was the hardest part for me was kind of transitioning and understanding what I'm trying to accomplish.
Speaker 2:So my dad started me I mean, I'm still making $15 an hour, so I make $15 an hour. And he told me himself. He said, you know, it's not, I can pay you, I could pay you enough to live on your own and do your own thing and this. And he's like but what are you going to learn? How are you going to wake up up the next five years from this and really understand to make a business Right, what it takes to be a businessman? Yeah, he's like you have to start at zero and I fucking pay bills, bro. I live with my parents and they fucking charge me rent, they make me pay my car bill. It's like I'm living on my own and I'm like this is bullshit, because it's the same fucking room I left four years ago, but now it costs me $800 a month and it's like I have to go to work because I got to make money.
Speaker 1:I got to pay the bills. I'll tell you what man Eddie says the same thing. He's like hey man, my parents aren't paying for training. No bro.
Speaker 2:My parents made money. They make good. My dad, he worked his ass off.
Speaker 1:He made great money, and that's I love it.
Speaker 2:You know, it's like we are privileged, we're not spoiled.
Speaker 1:He came from, like you said he came from Macedonia, came from nothing.
Speaker 2:He came from a mud house on a farm and it was him and his siblings that they had kids to work to help with the farm, you know. So it was just like coming back to business. And you know, I was talking to my parents and I was like you know what? This is, what I want to do with my life, like I want to be my dad times 10. Right, so everything he did wrong I'm going to fix it, because my dad's old school my dad, fucking my daddy was doing payroll on a book.
Speaker 2:Up until three years ago, my dad was doing it all by hand. Every ingredient is by hand. Our sauce, our cheese, our dough everything is by hand, you know. And like now you look at the workforce and these guys can't even tie their shoes, right, you know, and it's like you got guys coming in crying about they need money, they need money, and then they don't show up the next day for work, you know, and it's like, come on, bro, that's the side that I get kind of annoyed with, cause it's like staff, our whole staff. I know a good, I know probably 90% of the staff. There's 150 employees. I know at least 90% of them, you know. So it's like we have a great staff. We got a good group of guys and girls with us and it's just like even my dad. He had a lot of good support in the beginning to help them grow to what he is now, and it's like these are going to be my guys.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:Right, I have one friend that I've been friends with since kindergarten. I'm like this is going to be my guy.
Speaker 1:He works his ass off.
Speaker 2:Right-hand man type yeah he fucking busts his ass in the field. He's there every day, fucking, works his heart out, doesn't complain. I mean, he's just there and I fuck with that. And it's just that transition. I said I needed to find something that I was more passionate about, because after football there's life, right, you know what I'm saying. Like you said it yourself, there's only a certain age you can play this game till you, not everybody's fucking Tom Brady 100, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:You know, once you hit those 25, 26, get to late 20s, your body's gonna start feeling that, oh yeah, and when you're 30, life has to continue, you know. So that's kind of what changed my whole mindset with that and I kind of dove into the family business and now I'm in it and I mean I fucking love it.
Speaker 3:I love it I got a quick question what's the growth strategy for new york new york pizza, because you said nine locations throughout the bay area. Are you guys looking to expand outside of that?
Speaker 2:yeah. So right now we're we're uh, we're reconstructioning. Right now we got some reconstruction going on because my dad, like I said, did a very old school. My dad was good with handshakes, my dad was good with if you, if you're a man, you stand by your word, and nowadays that doesn't work. You know what I'm saying. Now you can't shake somebody's hand and trust that they're going to do what they're told, right and and so now it's lower. We're trying to find the right people. You know, like my dad has a lot of partners and this kind of stuff. He's got, you know, four or five partners at each location and now we're trying to put everybody in a team to where we can now, instead of one person managing one shop, it's one person in managing five, and it's one person managing another five and one person managing another five. That's when nine locations turns to 20 yep, and then that's when those big franchises come calling.
Speaker 2:You know, and now it's a 50 million dollar company, so all nine locations are privately owned by yeah, so my dad owns every, every, every location is all is every new york, new york piece that you see is my father, um, but there's partners at each one, they're operating partners. So they're there, um, and then my dad just takes like the royalty percentage, but it's half and half kind of sounds like a franchise almost it's kind of like that structure.
Speaker 2:It's just with franchises and this is something that I learned in business. Because of these fucking motherfuckers, um, so the fucking, they fucking you know a because of these fucking motherfuckers. So the fucking, they fucking you know a lot of these fucking guys. What they do is they take an operator or a franchisee. They just throw them in a fucking shop, they train them for a week and they say you're on your fucking own and they just collect. If they make $200,000, they get their 5% regardless. If they a million, their 5% is coming regardless. So they would just throw anybody in there and just fucking whatever and let it rock.
Speaker 2:And my dad is not like that. We're very particular. We're not going to just take a person that if you can make a pizza, that's great, but can you answer the phone? Because we have a lot of great pizza makers but a lot of them don't know English that well. So it's like, well, what are you going to do if your cashier doesn't show up, you know? So it's just kind of like understand that.
Speaker 2:And now, actually, so I decided to go back to school, um, because I just wanted to take this business to the next level. So I actually am going back to school to get my uh, my mba, yeah, mba and uh, business management nice. So that's the whole goal. I want to really understand restructuring. We've been talking to a consultant and stuff to help us restructure, because it's just, once it gets to a certain growth and once it gets to a certain volume, there's no control. Right, there's no control. My dad is one person, I'm one person. I can't be at five locations, you know. So I can be at one location and help with that one and then move on to the next one, and move on to the next one, but that takes time you can only be, you can only be one place at one time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it takes time and structure, but but I mean honestly, like I said, bro, it's I think that we have the best pizza in Tampa and it's not something that I take very lightly, like when people tell me it's not because I take it very personally. This is something that like it's just like wearing a brand we're in South. Carolina.
Speaker 1:We're in.
Speaker 2:Virginia Tech. It's the same thing to me. I mean, everything it's kind of crazy, but everything that I see in life is business, it's business, it's the truth. You know, I'm not going to and we kind of see it even with college these guys getting paid. You know, I'm going to pay a pizza maker that fucking can make 10 pizzas in five minutes. I'm going to pay him $25 an hour, yeah, you know, rather than a guy that can make one pizza or lie and be like it's not stressful, it's fucking stressful.
Speaker 2:You know, and I've been dabbling in real estate and the stocks and stuff like that. So you know I'm doing well for myself and understanding that part. Um, but you know, I think there's, there's, there's a certain time limit that I'm on, you know, like by 26 I want to have my mba and everything done. Yeah, you know. So now, by the time I'm, but now I'm in it. So now I'm learning real life problems and then I'm learning the business side, because in school they're not going to teach you how to handle a fucked up employee. They're going to teach you how to handle the numbers and the business aspect of it and what the regulations are Not the life the life lessons in that do right.
Speaker 2:You know it's like you're not gonna look at that shit and uh, it's definitely been a transition. It's definitely a little different because you know, in football you can tell somebody, shut the fuck up and get the fuck out, and oh, oh, hsa isn't gonna come knocking on your door, you fucking violating rules. You know what I'm saying. So it's just one of those things where it's definitely understanding that and and knowing how to deal with different personalities, which is cool, but you know it's it's been good. It's been good. It's been good. Steven, I really do. I'm happy that I'm home. I think that mentally, I'm in the best place that I've been in a long time.
Speaker 2:I think physically, I think that's a physically as well, you know, it's just, you know, doing different things to take care of my body and and you know, I don't really lift heavy weights anymore and I don't do no crazy intensity stuff. I train, um, I do some training in some Muay Thai stuff that I do now that really helps me with flexibility and stuff like that and just self defense, understanding that kind of stuff, and I think that's another thing that everybody should be doing bro you know cause?
Speaker 1:it's a crazy world we're living in now. These fucking gun laws.
Speaker 2:Man, these fuckers. You know they'll fucking, it's fucked up, but you know you should know how to throw a fucking punch, because if a guy touches you and I'm not there, the fuck are you gonna do? You gotta be able to break his jaw, you know, because I'm not there to do it. So right so yeah, but you know it's been good. It's been good, it's been good. You know I can't really complain. Everything it's not being handed to me stuff would be an earn you have to win that one.
Speaker 2:You know, I don't fucking want to hand it to me, because if I hand it to me, then next year, then I don't think you give a shit as much Next year.
Speaker 1:you're gone, bro.
Speaker 2:I see it with these guys at a certain pizza place in Tampa I don't want to name no names because we're talking to them a little bit but it started with a single owner. That guy met a guy who turned into a franchise. They've had like 30 locations across Tampa and then they ended up fucking all going in the shitter. I mean a lot of their places aren't doing that good because they don't. They didn't keep the quality.
Speaker 3:They didn't care.
Speaker 2:You know they wanted to be jumped from nine locations to 30 locations. Well, hold on, buddy. You got to structure that shit, because if you don't know how to get to Lewis in Sarasota and Michael in Tampa, what are you going to?
Speaker 1:good bro, I can't it's like learning a playbook 100.
Speaker 2:That's how I look at everything bro it's football to me yeah, you gotta understand what is this guy good at put him there? What's this guy good at put him there? You know. You gotta know when to send the blitz and when not to 100, 100.
Speaker 1:But yeah, man, well dude, this was freaking awesome man, I really do appreciate you having no man absolutely, absolutely. I was like who, who can I think of? That went through some shit. Yep loves football, was at the level and is now transitioning into the business side of things, and I was like dude and somebody that can actually fucking talk.
Speaker 2:Yeah, bro, I mean, that's what I'm good at, right? Yeah, that's what I'm good at. I like talking and opening up to people and kind of even seeing what people might think, because I do well with people that give me their opinions.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, being corrected isn't something that I really get offended by, right. It's something that I kind of look at as growth, right. You know, and there's times where, like my dad will say something to me and I'll look at him and be like kind of annoyed about it, you know, but then 10 minutes later I'll be like fuck, that was a good point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I'll kind of fuck it.
Speaker 2:I'll do what he said. Anyways, shit, you know him telling me, you know, like you're strong, you got this bro. Like that's kind of what kept me pushing because, honestly, after two I was tired. I was tired, bro, because I'd never been hurt before, you know.
Speaker 1:And then just most, but everything happens for a reason. Man dude, I'm super pumped for you. I'm really excited about your ventures with new york, new york, and kind of seeing how you and eddie kind of take it from nine to that's what we're trying to do, bro.
Speaker 2:That's what we're trying to do, bro, me and my brother and and all our teammates within the business that we have. Um, that's what we're trying to do, bro. We want everybody to eat. You know, we're not greedy, we're not trying to sit back and hold our nuts while everybody's working their ass off. You know, we're the type that will fucking roll up our sleeves and work right next to you.
Speaker 1:oh, should I see it?
Speaker 2:I see it every day on Instagram, yeah we'll work right next to your ass and that's what it's going to be. That's never going to go away as long as I'm alive, and I'm going to instill that in my kids, just like my dad did for us, and Eddie's going to do the same, and just little by little, we're going to grow.
Speaker 1:Yep, absolutely Well, folks like comment share, subscribe? Hit that notification button.
Speaker 2:Hey, there we go Grab a slice too.
Speaker 1:Yep, grab a slice. They got nine locations all throughout Tampa area. Where else in Tampa?
Speaker 2:So our main one is in Ybor City and then we have Hyde Park Riverview. We have one down here on North Down, mabry and Carrowwood. We got one in West Chase, one kind of like going Pasco County, wesley Chapel that area, and then we got the one in the airport, one in Temple Terrace and we're looking to open one in Valrico and Branson.
Speaker 2:Let's go oh yeah, and we got. Actually, we just opened up a new one about six months ago right there on Riverview on 301. It's inside of a gas station, so we're trying to try out a new little concept with the gas station like an express.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah so it's pretty cool bro.
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Speaker 1:I want to take a quick little break here to introduce one of our newest sponsors. We got New York, new York Pizza. All right, they're based out of Tampa. Great family, the Mammuda family own it. I've known them for probably 10, 15 years at this point. But anyways, great family oriented pizza. They have nine locations. There's South Tampa and Soho area, there's Carawood, westchase, bradenton. I mean they got nine locations. They're expanding to a couple more. They just started doing a sourdough pizza crust. Obviously everybody's kind of health conscious now. Sourdough is good for the gut, it's healthier for you. Healthier option. I've had it. It's absolutely delicious. So again, next time you go into New York New York Pizza, ask for Desmond or Eddie, or I think my son's actually going to start working there. So take, take a, take a little peek, check them out again. New York, new York pizza. They got nine locations, check them out.