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Sports & Suits: Where Athletics Meets Ambition
Welcome to the official Sports & Suits playlist, your ultimate destination for conversations that bridge the world of athletics with the drive and discipline of the corporate arena. Each episode features candid interviews and thought-provoking discussions with top athletes, business leaders, and influencers who share how they harness the competitive spirit of sports to excel in their professional lives. Dive into real-life stories of resilience, leadership, and adaptability—traits that power championship teams on the field and high-performing organizations off it.
Tune in to discover the mindset shifts, training regimens, and success strategies used by champions in sports and business alike. Whether you’re an aspiring entrepreneur, a seasoned CEO, or simply a curious listener hungry for fresh perspectives, Sports & Suits delivers insights and inspiration that go beyond the scoreboard. Subscribe, hit play, and join us on this journey—where athletics truly meets ambition.
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From Field to Mentorship: Yo Murphy's Journey
The path from professional athlete to elite trainer is rarely straightforward, but Yo Murphy's journey offers a masterclass in leveraging playing experience to develop the next generation of sports stars. In this candid conversation, the former NFL wide receiver reveals how he transformed from a player on the legendary "Greatest Show on Turf" Rams offense to becoming one of the most respected performance coaches in professional sports.
Murphy takes us through his methodical approach to building his training business, starting with humble beginnings charging just $25 per session while focusing on education before working with elite athletes. His philosophy challenges the Instagram-friendly extreme workouts that dominate social media, instead advocating for sport-specific training that translates directly to on-field performance. "Athletes aren't doing CrossFit," he explains, emphasizing that weight room work should complement athletic movements rather than exist as a separate skill set.
The conversation shifts to the rapidly evolving landscape of college athletics, with Murphy providing valuable perspective on NIL deals and their impact on young athletes. His concerns about unregulated NIL agents who can take up to 20% of athletes' earnings highlight the need for financial literacy among college players. While supporting athletes' right to monetize their talents, Murphy advocates for better guidance to help them navigate this new frontier.
What truly sets Murphy apart is his network of relationships with NFL legends who contribute to his training programs. From Randy Moss to Jon Gruden, these connections provide his athletes with invaluable knowledge that goes beyond physical training. Through prospect camps and year-round programming at his Yo Murphy Performance facility, he creates an environment where the next generation can learn from those who reached the pinnacle of the sport. Check out his training methods on Instagram @YoMurph or visit his Tampa facility to see firsthand how a former pro transforms athletic potential into elite performance.
Yo Murphy.
Speaker 3:Big boy man.
Speaker 2:I'm so glad you made it out, dude. We've been through the shit for a long time, man, yeah, yeah, a long time. So yo, murphy, man, yeah, if you want to just go ahead and kind of introduce us that's kind of how we do this whole thing, man, just introduce you, then let you kind of tell your story. Yeah, all right, from A to B, man.
Speaker 3:Or that's a lot old man. So I got a lot behind me. You know, played, had a chance to play football, uh, nfl for four years, cfl, nfl, europe, all trying to get there. Um got done with that. Wanted to just be part of the game. You know, part of working with guys, um, support, um got into training shoot what's that? 18 years ago, um, and had the opportunity to work with some of the best players from all sports in the business. Oh yeah, high school collegiate, and you know it's really my calling. I enjoy going to work every day.
Speaker 2:And you're good at it.
Speaker 3:Appreciate it, damn good at it. You know, and I get blessed man, like you know, coming from having blessed man, like you know, coming from the coming from having an opportunity to play, to train. I don't confuse myself with who I who's the product, you know what I mean. Like you got to have good athletes, uh, to really get out there. You know what I'm saying no doubt trust the athlete gives me um, and then I just bust my ass for him. So how?
Speaker 2:how long since? Or when you got done playing, did you start training, or you just jump straight into it?
Speaker 3:yeah, I jumped straight into it. My uh it was funny it was it was kind of tough when I was finishing because I trained out at Saddlebrook, okay, um, and trained with a bunch of NFL guys. I started to finish, I started going to in the CFL, still trained with them. But what I would do my last three years in the CFL still trained with them. But what I would do my last three years in the CFL I basically was an intern for the guy that trained. So I would get done training, I train early. Then I would intern, you know, while these guys are giving me hell, you know, picking up cones and all that. But you know, it was so much part of that, just a part of that process. Like you know, when you, when you train athletes, obviously you know there's a little bit of a servant in you.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying Like you're trying to figure out how to, how to help, how to help serve, so um. So for those years this guy named Pat Etchberry that coached me. I was in there with him, you know, learning the business.
Speaker 2:So as soon as I retired, you know I was in it, you know was in it, you know. So, um shit, the day I stopped, you know I was, you were in, yeah, and then. So you went to saddlebrook. And then, when did you start?
Speaker 3:performance compound. You started performance compound about three years after that I went to a boxing gym and for three years I was just doing education and doing some one-on-one training with housewives or kids so it's more like personal training.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's it that's all I did, and I didn't. I never even trained athletes for probably the first two years it was just because I wanted to be able to get my education right, you know, before I started doing it at that level, you know. So I just trained whoever man I was. I mean, I was driving to train people for $25, you know, just just trying to get reps.
Speaker 2:Trust me, I get it, I get it, I get it yeah.
Speaker 3:It's just being in front of people.
Speaker 2:Right, you know, yeah, and then once they you know, they see the product, they're like oh shit, like this guy actually knows what he's talking about.
Speaker 3:Then it's like all right, well, we might bump this up and like what are you talking about?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, no, I I get it, yeah, I get it. So then all right. So then take us through like performance compound, because that really that's, that's what I, we, yeah, we connected, so yeah, just kind of talk about that, and then obviously, what you're, where you're at now yeah.
Speaker 3:So when we started performance compound, it was booger mcfarland and a guy named scott lee um know that had just talked to me about we're in this boxing gym and he's like, what do you want to do? And I was like man, I, I feel that I want to be involved in the youth. You know what I mean. Like I, you know you see a lot of stuff, but I don't. I thought at the time like what, what our goal would be to do is everything you do, is you do is when you train for adaptations, it's stress to the body, you know. And so it's like these kids don't need to squat 4 by 19 reps. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's do what they need.
Speaker 3:And I see that.
Speaker 2:I'm sure you see it on social media.
Speaker 3:I don't want to name any certain gyms.
Speaker 2:But I see it, and these guys got 600 pounds on their back. It's like the fuck are we doing?
Speaker 3:yeah? Guy plays quarterback that's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 2:You're squatting that why are you putting all that weight on that?
Speaker 3:yeah, we all know who 100 and then you'll get and then, like you said, a quarterback. Okay, now I'm squatting, not even safety bar, it's I got. I'm in this, can compromise my shoulder if the weight's high. You know, there's just so many different things that you have to look into. So, yeah, exactly what you're saying and so that was our goal is just like you know, when I was in first grade, I did first grade math.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean so let's take these guys through that whole progression, make sure that their body is trained for specific movements. You know athletes and I'm not going to say all athletes, but we're not doing CrossFit. You know what I mean. So the weight room isn't necessarily training for exactly what we're doing. You know what I mean. It's not like, okay, I'm going to do all these pull-ups because I'm going to go perform that. You know what I mean. Pull-ups have to work in relation to what I do on the field, exactly exactly and so that was my mission.
Speaker 3:We wrote out a bunch of things and, and then we're, you know, we got together um, built performance compound and we wanted our goal. Our mission is always to have athletes as coaches.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean because you've been through it exactly. I'm saying it's, it's and that's. I'm glad you said it's. It's hard for guys and I see it on social media all the time. It's like these quarterback gurus come out of the woodwork. It's like did you ever play a snap of football? I don't know. Me personally, I'd be like I would not believe anybody or anything this guy says if he's never been through this shit.
Speaker 3:I mean, I think you bring up a good point and at that position you look at that and say, okay, if I'm sitting here and I'm a receiver, I'm a DB, I'm a D lineman, whatever, and I see, here's what we're going to do on the board this, that the third. I can maybe have not played it and said, okay, this is how you should execute on it, but as a quarterback, the thought of knowing what all 22 guys are doing and then processing that like that In the blink of an eye and then making a throw.
Speaker 3:It's hard for me to say, okay, you can tell me that, what this skill really needs.
Speaker 1:You know, what.
Speaker 2:I'm saying, if you haven't done, it, it's bananas and that's what.
Speaker 3:But I think the bad thing and the good thing about social media is well, the bad about it. Well, no shit. Bad and good is it's if you're a great marketer, you can get anything yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:you don't even have to be a great teacher, I see it all the time, yeah, all the time especially at at your position.
Speaker 3:Because oh yeah, man, I was talking to a kid who came here, college kid He'd gone out to I don't know where it is, orange County or whatever, with the group out there and he was there for two weeks. He said, and his dad, and I don't know the exact numbers, but it was five figures, you know what I'm saying and I'm just like For two weeks.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I go. What did you do? And he did a bunch of evals and all this stuff and I'm just like so I don't know. Like you know, I didn't play the quarterback position, so I don't know about it.
Speaker 2:But that's what it is and that's something that you know. I have parents that tell me all the time and all the time, and even guys that I run camps with in south carolina he's like dude, you need to get more on social media, you need to post more. I was like dude, I post enough shit on social media. I don't, I'm done, I can't, I can't, I don't need that many more kids. I just I'm good with what I got right now. But to your point, like to market and you see it all the time, these guys that are marketing themselves get, they'll have a hundred kids in a session.
Speaker 1:It's's like what.
Speaker 3:And people are paying them.
Speaker 2:I'd take my kid out of there.
Speaker 3:So damn fast. Like what can you really get in that Right? You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's, it's, it's baffling, but yeah, I mean. So. Then you got the, you got the compound, um, and how, how many years did?
Speaker 3:you end up doing that. So performance compound we. We were there for seven years and then we merged with a group um called aspie. Hey, that's right yeah, yeah yeah, um, so we merged with them. Um, I, I. I can't say what I want to say about it yeah, no, but but I know yeah but it was a you know. What I'll say is um, I've had some good and bad partners and you learn. That's exactly it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:It helped me so much for those next steps to get here, and you know what I'm saying. Obviously it's, it's paid off yeah, but yeah that whole that whole thing I remember talking about like what the fuck?
Speaker 3:is going on and I mean I and I I try not to tell everybody everything, but it was just like sometimes. But it's like you said. You know there's, there's a certain type of person that's played sports, coach sports. You've done that your whole life and you, you kind of know, like you have certain principles and ways you're going to go about stuff, and these guys were just um, they were, you know more like numbers, guys right like hitting the quota type deal they were science guys and then they came over, just like you said.
Speaker 3:Now the business really turned in very transactional. Yeah, you know, I mean you can't, you can't do that, feel that parents feel that it's what it was. It was the parents like they parents where we were at didn't mind paying anything, but they needed to see the value in it and and you know you cared about their kid.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying, and that's we didn't we really started losing that as a company. So, honest to God, man, I had my equipment out. I shot him a message, called the guy that I knew he had maybe two box trucks. He had maybe two box trucks. We started on a Saturday at 5 pm and we cleared the whole gym out it was like Sunday at like 3 in the morning and just left. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:That's insane.
Speaker 3:And you had a shit ton of high-end equipment, yeah everything and I tried to sell it to them, they said they didn't want it and they're like, can you just give us a couple months? I was like, yeah, I think so. But then you know, we had an opportunity, we had to go. So yeah gave my heads up and we just cleared it out and then is that where you are at now?
Speaker 3:yeah. So now now went to kind of performance compound, went back to ymp yo murphy performance, but it's, everything is based off of what we started with. We're over now.
Speaker 2:We're on sly right by late till high school, because that's how I see what you guys are. You guys don't go to Skyway anymore.
Speaker 3:No, no man Skyway. We might as well run on this right here I'm telling you, what man?
Speaker 2:You have things you don't want to say about ASPI. I have plenty of shit. Fuck Skyway, fuck Hills. You have things you don't want to say about asbi? I have plenty of shit. Fuck skyway, fuck hillsborough, county parks and rec fuck you guys, absolutely. They call the cops on me. Shut up, swear to god. Three times in a row. They've called the cops the last three times I've been there. So you know. You know athlete innovations, you know cliff yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:So he brought me on the last two years to like work with his quarterbacks and throw to his guys. So every time he's been out there, I go out there. They don't say a word. They don't say because he's like. You know, I hired him, he's part of the deal, no issues. This past, this past off season, I went to go throw with him. He was in indianapolis for the combine, so I get out there. Nope, mr garcia, nope, you're not coming on here. You're not coming on. Like, what are you talking about? I've been coming here for the last three weeks, twice a week, and you've never said a damn peep. Yeah, now, cliff's not here. Now, you got a problem. Cliff's not here, you're not here. I'm like uh, yes, I am here, actually I'm staying right here. Call the cops. And sure as shit, they call the cops, come on. Oh yeah. So they said they. They were like yeah, you got to go to the field. That's uh, by the tennis courts over there, the grass field with all the dog shit on it what, oh yeah oh yeah.
Speaker 2:So I'm over there and I'm just like fuming and the cops come over there like garcia, like yeah, you're, we know your dad, like what are you? What are you doing, man? I was like this motherfucker here thinks I'm selling fentanyl, like on the field of at skyway, and it's just it turned into a complete shit show. So I have nothing positive to say about skyway or for the most part trespass, if they let you on, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2:They're all pissed off because I never paid rent there. They were like, yeah, you got to pay rent, to rent the field. I was like you've never seen anybody ever pay me money, you have no idea. Well, we know that you make money, so that's anyways. That's a whole different story.
Speaker 3:So well, I mean I'm not on there for different reasons, but you know, we we had, you know, speaking of the rent, you know that's what they hit me with and I'm like, I'm fine with as long as everybody else is doing it. I mean I'm fine, let's let's, you know, let's just get everything out in the open. And you know, you know, when we first were going there there there's there was never anybody there. So they're you know, they'd have someone pop up and all of a sudden you'll rent right, I mean, but there's nobody at the front.
Speaker 3:So I was like I can't even remember the people's names now, but I was like, look if, if everybody's doing, I'm good you know, what I'm saying like, but don't just come out here, because you know, and I have a big group at this time and that's kind of my, my thought process too.
Speaker 2:I'm like I don't mind paying rent, but I know I've seen this guy out here. Yeah, he ain't paying rent, because I've asked him. This guy, he ain't paying rent. These guys aren't paying rent. Why? Why do I have to pay rent? Yeah, I obviously knew you were paying rent. I think cooper was paying rent. I was like I'm I'll pay rent, but I everybody needs to do it and that's, yeah, clearly never happened. So I don't uh have nothing positive to say about any of those guys, but obviously I mean so you're working by Sly, by Lato. The gym looks fucking sick. Yeah, you gotta come through.
Speaker 2:I know, I know it's hard to it's hard to leave my quadrant man no, I, I was talking.
Speaker 3:Who was I talking to? About you? Oh uh, steve, um Fantinelli, he's my lawyer oh Fantinelli, yeah, yeah, shit they.
Speaker 2:Oh Fantelli, yeah, yeah, yeah, shit, they know you know, steve Fantelli.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, this is where Ev trains.
Speaker 2:He trains with him.
Speaker 1:I thought he trained with you.
Speaker 2:For the quarterback stuff, For quarterback yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:My brother's right now at Del Frisco's with Steve.
Speaker 2:Oh, really, yeah, that's how I met Steve was through that.
Speaker 1:Oh okay, oh, okay, yeah, yeah he raced and now, and he just took his agent's exam but apparently he doesn't find out for six months because it takes that long to actually grade the test. Yeah, which is wild. Well, there's so many guys out there.
Speaker 2:That are trying to do it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so many, I think you know. Well, he's a lawyer. Well, I know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I asked him. I. I was like so what do you think Both guys should be a lawyer? Yeah, I was like what do you think he goes? He's like I know for a fact, I passed it.
Speaker 2:I was like damn, Steve.
Speaker 3:Now he's on the waiting, but now he's waiting for the grade so it's kind of yeah, they have tens of thousands of people that probably take that.
Speaker 2:Well, that's kind of what I. That was a pretty good transition. It's like, how do you get most of the guys like, how do you get Devante's with I?
Speaker 3:mean you got some of the names that you have come through there is fucking impressive. Like, how do you, how do these guys hear about you? How do you get in contact with them? You know what we do is um, so we, we have war room meetings, you know. So we start early July, um, so what we do first in May we have a thing called Prospect Camp Okay, and we'll invite, we'll look up the top 100 guys or we'll talk to agents that have some guys that they would think, and this year we had 49 guys that came in the month of May trained, show them what we do education, nutrition and it's not really training as much as we do work. We get on the field, we get in the weight room, but it's about just the education of what we can do, what you do.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean and this prospect that that's for guys trying to make the league.
Speaker 3:So it's for guys that are draft eligible. Well, we had freshman guys Because of Smitty. I got Ryan Williams this year, Pretty big name, yeah. So we had some guys. But you know we say draft eligible, but I'm not gonna turn down a sophomore like that you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, you can't come.
Speaker 3:Yeah, um, sorry, man yeah, yeah, we'll see you next year, oh, but. But so we'll bring all those guys in, we'll go and we and we do it the three weeks of May. So guys will get in Sunday night train, leave out Saturday. Then what we'll do is we'll collect all their information, then start obviously recruiting the guys that we have in. Then you know, guys that didn't come top 100, we just start sending out our brochure, sending out one pages of their position and really going hard on them, online text, all that stuff until You're like DM them type deal?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, but do you message these guys? You send them because I know a lot of these guys, especially we talked about with the NIL and I want to get your opinion on that here in a second. But I know, when I was up in South Carolina two weeks ago, we asked like Lenoris, dylanylan, stewart, who's the, the defensive end, that's a fucking psychopath uh, a few of these, a few of the other big name guys, and I'm sitting there talking with um, the guy that's like the media guy, and he's like have you talked to their agent? Yet? I'm like what, what the fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 2:He's like yeah, usually agents kind of control if they, you know, if certain guys need on their podcast. I'm like no, I didn't talk to their agent. I just texted lenore's and just asked if you want to come on and told him to grab, like dylan and a couple other guys. Yeah, and he said yes, he's like yeah, but I was like dude. So that's why I'm asking like, do you have to like go through the agent to kind of ask guys?
Speaker 3:well, so we, we don't. But we've had guys that have told us you know that we have to go see this guy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's crazy, it is crazy.
Speaker 3:I'm telling you, you know, and the big thing is, you know, just to hop around a little bit, but on the NIL side, people are so hard on the players, right, but you have so many of these NIL agents that a player can love where he is. And I know, for a matter of fact, a guy told me that his NIL agent was trying to push him to transfer somewhere because they're going to pay him three hundred thousand dollars more. Well, the NIL agent just trying to get his percentage.
Speaker 3:Right, you know what I'm saying, and so it's like a lot of these guys wouldn't even know these opportunities if a guy wasn't out shopping. You know what I'm saying, and so it's it's like a lot of these guys wouldn't even know of these opportunities if a guy wasn't out shopping them. You know, and and he's making plenty of money, I think. I think it's somewhere around. It was around 500 000 and you know as well as I do, if you're 20 years old in college, you don't need 500 000 that goes a long way man and and and.
Speaker 3:So my thought is you get that man, you put 50, put $50,000 in your account, you figure out how to make more with $450,000. But these guys are like, okay, let's get our percent Now. Oregon, what do you think of this guy? You know Cal, so the NIL space, coming as a former collegiate athlete, and you also like I'm glad they're getting paid. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:It's just like as they should. But the whole thing is just, it's wild west. There's no rhyme or reason. I mean, there's guys, there's coaches that I have, you know, that I'm friends with, and they're like, yeah, we can't give these kids film from their practice because they'll send it to their agent and their agent will shop them around. I believe it. I believe it. That's crazy Practice, just practice tape. And it's like, yeah. So I mean I've had guys out here that you know played college football and you know professional football, and I'll ask them and they're like you know it's a double-edged sword and I think it's the same thing. It's like guys should be paid, but at some point they've got to regulate it. They have to.
Speaker 3:How they do it. I don't know what they're going to do and you don't want I mean fuck. We live in America, so it's like you don't want to give them, take away their opportunity to capitalize on their biggest asset. Right, you know what I mean. Like you know, you got a hedge fund guy. We're not stopping him from making $30 million.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying. And a guy at 18 that can run like Ryan Williams Jump. You know, jeremy Smith, all these guys like Jeremiah Smith, like you want to make sure they get what they can get. Right, it's just shit. Like you just said, okay, this NIL agent is shopping my guy around at practice. Like how do you, if I'm a coach, that doesn't work, how do you buy into that? No, like, as a coach, you know, or even another teammate, you know, I know I'm the center on the team, so I'm not nobody's trying to get me, but you know you're trying to take. You know, our top guy, right right.
Speaker 2:It's bananas to me, man, it truly is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but then colleges were also shopping around players or cutting them and just saying, hey, listen, you didn't make the cut this year. And then those players get screwed before NIL, before the transfer portal, and they were so quick to cut ties. Now that the players, empowered to be able to make money, choose wherever they want to go, I think it's a good thing. I don't think it's a bad thing. I know, you know, he's kind of in the middle of the road. You're making it sound almost a little bit like man. It's not a good thing. Right in order for well, what isn't a good thing?
Speaker 3:the fact that players can't get a portal. No, but I'm saying like, so, let this. So there's so many things in it, right, so I can't go in there blind. It's like. It's like if I if I love steak and I hate cauliflower and you bring me steak and cauliflower, it's a good meal. I just don't like all of it, right. So NIL is a hell of a meal. I'm a player, so I'm like don't take the money from him. But you have NIL agents that don't like. We were talking about Steve a minute ago, right? He had to take a four-hour test to be an agent, whatever that is. He studied for eight months. Us three right here can be an NIL agent as soon as we walk out of that office. Yeah, really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's. No, you don't.
Speaker 3:All you do is I can put on my Instagram right now I'm an NIL agent For real. Yes, Well.
Speaker 1:I know what profession I'm choosing now.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. It's the Wild West man.
Speaker 3:There's no regulations at all. So I'm not hating on it. But imagine right now you have a son. He's balling, he's 18 years old, he's going to go up to Florida, he's going to go to South Carolina, he's going to make $3 million you can get with the NIL agent.
Speaker 1:They can charge whatever they want. They can't, but it has to be approved by the player and the player only right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, 100%. But they consider it marketing. So in marketing all these marketing agents, you see it's basically a 20% deal to the marketing agent. When they get you a deal, nil agents can charge all the way up to 20%. Now you're right. It say it's my son, we just got hit by the hurricane, we got all these things going on. This NIL agent comes and says, hey, I can get you a million dollars. Oh bet, I need that. My family needs that. By the way, I'm taking $200,000 from it. All right, cool, I still get $800,000, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but then taxes.
Speaker 3:And they're not thinking of that. You know what?
Speaker 1:I'm. They're just if they don't have the means, it's just. I think people are taking advantage. They walk around with like literally 50%, 60%, taken after the 20% initially from the NIL agent and taxes, which is on average, on a price like that, around 38%.
Speaker 3:I mean they're not walking, they're not where you are, yeah, they're walking away with close to just barely like 52% and I'm with you that they should be making the money 100%. It's like what Garcia was saying it has to be regulated. And I'm saying regulated just to protect the player, don't take the money away, don't protect the college?
Speaker 1:Yeah, because those motherfuckers have been making money for years.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm saying and that's why I don't even I don't even disagree with the transfer portal. I think it needs to have better set times when you can transfer and then just they need to tell players you have this option, like, like you can transfer twice, so you know how the NFL has a PA.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Does college football have a PA? No, shit, no. But I mean, they're getting paid now, shouldn't?
Speaker 3:they Well they.
Speaker 1:Isn't this a good idea?
Speaker 3:Without a doubt. But if you're the people that are paying them, do you want them to have a PA, right, so they're never going to the kids? Not kids, these young men have an issue with seeing things like that. Right, yeah, the oldest one might be in college, unless you're BYU 23,. We'll say, right At 23,. These guys aren't coming up with that. And then you have the other group, that's 18, coming in. So they're thinking about how I can take care of myself right now. Ncaa doesn't. Well, they're about to get booted out too, but they don't want them to even think of that. You know what I'm saying? Like, because once you get a union, you get strength. Oh yeah, and they don't want them to think of that, you know.
Speaker 1:There needs to be an NCAA PA across all sports, not just football.
Speaker 3:I feel the NCAA.
Speaker 1:And you should head it yo. Now we're talking.
Speaker 3:Now this is fun going in the right direction there we go.
Speaker 1:And then as the CEO of the PA, exactly First and foremost. A very charitable salary of $20 million Due upon signing this call, paid for by the colleges.
Speaker 3:Because I would do one day and be done. But you look at the NCAA, I don't feel they're going to even be around? Oh my bad, I don't feel they're going to be around.
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Speaker 1:Yeah, so yo brought up a hot take here. He said no, ncaa is going to exist in one year. Is that what you said? Next year?
Speaker 3:You said next year. I didn't put 12 months on it, but I'm just thinking business-wise. You know, I was reading an article about a hedge fund company buying a small football team, buying a small football team, a small football college team, and basically treating it as a business that they're going to build, build, build and sell. Then you look at the SEC and you look at the money they're bringing in and all these schools that they're yanking from. I mean you get an A&M, a Texas to come along with.
Speaker 2:And Alabama. Well, yeah, alabama doesn't have the funds of Of those two guys.
Speaker 3:Oh really that oil money. Texas Tech is spending more money than Alabama.
Speaker 2:You see Kansas yesterday Guy donated $300 million.
Speaker 1:So you're talking about the collectives, you're talking about the collectives, right.
Speaker 2:It's like why do you need the? Ncaa to keep cherry-picking the money. So imagine this so cut electives right. It's like, why do you need the NCAA to keep, yeah, cherry picking the money? So imagine this so cut out the middleman.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so really the only thing that the NCAA and and and I don't. I don't know if this is for sure, because I don't know if this is allegedly everybody, yeah, everybody watching. Garcia's stuff now, so do not sue me. This is allegedly. Make sure you don't edit out my legacy.
Speaker 1:Seek legal advice, counsel. Yeah, this is all just speculation.
Speaker 3:So the last three real big lawsuits that they've had, they've lost, and they're talking about what they're going to do to Michigan, right? Well, what are they saying? Well, they said they're going to announce it tomorrow, exactly what's going to do to Michigan, right? Well, what are they saying? Well, they said they're going to announce it tomorrow, exactly what's going to happen to Michigan. But what can they really do? Because what they used to do is take scholarships away. All right, cool Collective's paying them a million dollars anyway. You don't need a scholarship, so collectives are paying for the students to come to their school right.
Speaker 1:Yes, so, they're basically boosters right, that's essentially what they are.
Speaker 3:Well, the collective is an organization that's raising money, so let me tell you where I think it's going to go.
Speaker 1:I think maybe the collectives might establish their own union. Tell all the other collectives, hey, let's get rid of the NCAA. They're not doing dick right now for us. I mean maybe they got to deal with ESPN, but I mean, maybe they got to deal with ESPN. But I mean the SEC has their own network, don't they?
Speaker 3:Yeah, they don't need broadcast rights.
Speaker 2:All of them do, yeah, all of them do so.
Speaker 1:the NCAA is the middleman. Fuck you, ncaa. I remember going to college and y'all taking my money real easy. Now they're making video games. Remember when they were making video games without the name on the jersey because they said you know what players? Fuck you guys, y'all ain't getting paid that's really what it is. Then nil came around and they're like oh, wait a second now, because they got sued by the players.
Speaker 2:Which is such bullshit and then the players got paid to 2016. Oh, so you didn't?
Speaker 3:get paid for that damn. I was gonna ask you that sucks, but they lost that loss, they lost that and they had to pay and ea sports had to pay too, because ea sports were was damn.
Speaker 1:You didn't get no money from that don't, don't roll.
Speaker 2:I got some from ea sports. I got some from that, the video game from the ea sports.
Speaker 1:One right. What was your?
Speaker 2:last year 11.
Speaker 1:Oh man, you're five years displaced, so you got nothing from jersey sales, nothing from jersey sales Nothing from rev share.
Speaker 2:That was a new thing, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, you're saying you did, but neither did you.
Speaker 3:Oh man, I'm so out of it. One of my guys, brandon G, you know G, yeah, how's a two-time great cup champion so out of it. Where are the rings at? Where are the rings at?
Speaker 1:I mean, that's the championship for the cfl dog I mean that's that's legit, right there we have brian tims on and well, at least on a different podcast, he brought his ring. Bro, those rings are no joke, they're big yeah, yeah, it was good, it was cool I mean it was so long ago though.
Speaker 3:But yeah, you, yeah, you look at that though. Think about what you just said the NCAA does and nobody needs that. So really, they can't even the NCAA can't even stop these guys from playing in the regular season. What they can do is stop them from the championship. So, hey, if your team gets there you know Michigan they could be like oh, you guys are, you know, I think you get banned from the championship the playoffs, not the championship. You can't, they can't really do anything. You know what I'm saying. Like, teams can move without them.
Speaker 1:The NCAA establishes rank, though, don't they?
Speaker 3:What do you mean?
Speaker 1:Rank of the college teams.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, but that's just okay, that's it right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so then you would need a new organization establishing rank of the college team.
Speaker 2:So is the College Football Playoff Committee. Is that sanctioned through the NCAA?
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I'm so out of it with but you think about it, the guys that are on that committee most of them are ADs, commissioners of conferences so it's like it's not even like okay, we have this one person that's from the NCAA. It's like you have this collective that's from colleges. So why, if you guys are making rules and you guys are trying to do something that the SEC doesn't truly believe in, why do we need you? What do you think a good solution is then? I truly believe it is to get rid of the NCAA.
Speaker 1:And then who's the governing body now? Who sets the rules? Govern yourself.
Speaker 3:Govern your conference, but everybody has to agree upon a certain set of rules because you know how in college football it's one foot down right.
Speaker 1:You don't need two feet. I mean, that's NCAA governing body rules, so you get rid of the NCAA. Now who's governing? I'm just wondering.
Speaker 2:What rules?
Speaker 1:or do all schools just say we agree with these set of rules, we're going to follow those rules. Nobody breaks the rules.
Speaker 2:I almost wonder if the NFL would get involved and say we want to make this a minor league deal.
Speaker 1:I mean it is right now. I mean, players are getting paid a hell of a lot more than minor league baseball guys are man yeah, you know when
Speaker 2:you send me that video I I don't know if you sent it to my comment or something of the kid throwing and I was like, oh shit, what, who the hell's that?
Speaker 3:and you were like the nil is crazy man, literally flew, yeah, flew his team down, his whole, all the receiver last year. That's a bad way to spend money not when you're making so much.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, no actually there's a better way to spend money it's buy assets.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Bitcoin.
Speaker 1:Shout out. Jesse Goldridge Well without it and tell that to all the young kids. Getting NIL money, buy real property.
Speaker 3:Well, but you think about it though, too. You are one of your biggest assets, are your teammates, right? So if a part of that is going towards it and you're saying in your mind, so if I make a million dollars and I'm like, ok, I'm going to spend fifteen thousand dollars on taking all my guys to ban, or so? Jalen Milrow brought four receivers, two running backs and one alignment. Jc Latham bought all the alignment down here, paid for everything For them to do. That that was probably 0.3% of what they made, right? You know what I mean. Now, jc went first round, jalen went third round. You know what I mean. Like it can still be part of it. I agree that don't get anything that depreciates, right? You know what I mean, but I feel that don't get anything that depreciates, right, you know what I mean, but I feel that. But training, is.
Speaker 3:You know how it is as a quarterback.
Speaker 2:It's an investment. It's an investment in yourself.
Speaker 1:That's what I would say when did you say you flew him down to?
Speaker 3:Tampa. They came here, yeah, here To what To train with us. Oh, okay, I got you.
Speaker 1:I, sean, I don't think you understand, he trains like I thought you said he just flew them out to a vacation, or some shit.
Speaker 3:Oh no, no, they came down here and he just took care of their Airbnb and the flights To train, to train.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's a different story. I retract my last statement For whatever reason. What I heard was he flew them out to a vacation. Oh, no, no, no.
Speaker 3:But you're right, I agree. But that's what I feel all those collectives should be doing is like, ok, here's your money, you know you can, you have the opportunity to transfer, but if you transfer, you pay it back. Right, you know what I mean. Now here's what we want. We want you Now we're giving you three million dollars. You have to go to these classes for the first semester on financial literacy. You have to understand taxes. You have all these things. You want to help your, your, your youngest sister.
Speaker 2:We're going to give her some money, but we're going to put a trust set a trust up for you know what I'm saying, is that what a lot of guys are doing I would say a lot, but there are guys doing it.
Speaker 3:So there's a guy here, um, who works with usf, played basketball. They're very, very um, um, I don't say. Well, he does great in business. All right name is Jason Matthews and he has worked with their guys that are getting NIL money and he's done a financial literacy course just on his own with them. Gotcha, okay, but they need it. I wasn't. I might have been 30 years old where I really figured out oh, maybe I should do this to help me with taxes.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean me with taxes, right. You know what I mean, a hundred percent, right. Instead of just exactly. You know what I'm saying Exactly? There's so many ways to wiggle around the system.
Speaker 1:Do you think that a lot of college athletes that are getting NIL deals may not realize that that might be the only money they ever get? Yep. When you're and Steve would talk on this too You're talking about the one kid that made a five-figure deal, right? Five figures is only in the tens of thousands, right? That might be the only money he ever gets. Should he not invest that correctly?
Speaker 2:Oh, no, I agree with that. Yeah, what kind of question is that? No, I think, just spend it on bullshit. No, bro, what I'm saying is college athletes are listening to this.
Speaker 1:I mean we got to at least get provide some sound advice for me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's what we're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no 100. I I agree, realize that that that money.
Speaker 1:Train might end quicker than you think oh, it always especially if you're subpar. I know a lot of you are.
Speaker 2:I'm just fucking around, but yeah, it's 100 man, man, and that's why that's part of that double-edged sword. And what I was talking about with other guys is you only have this much time in your life to make money playing this sport. Make as much as you can. I mean, if someone's going to pay you that much money fucking take it Definitely.
Speaker 1:don't miss out on an EA deal.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, it's fucked up and the coach has been doing this forever. As far as the transfer portal, you know a coach is going to. If I'm coaching at Middle Tennessee, that's not where I want to end up. You know what.
Speaker 1:I'm saying Doesn't Tennessee have a good college?
Speaker 2:Middle Tennessee, middle Tennessee State.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, yeah, I thought you meant the middle of the state?
Speaker 2:Oh no no Guy's out of his fucking mind.
Speaker 3:There's something in that water. What's in that white ball over there, man?
Speaker 1:This is a water shelter.
Speaker 3:Someone's found something over there. I like it though.
Speaker 2:But I mean, yeah, like to your point, though that's where these coaches don't want to end up at. No offense to Middle Tennessee.
Speaker 3:State. Yeah, I should say that they don't want to.
Speaker 2:That's not like somebody's dream job.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know no, and that's the thing is. And then they're. You know, you have a coach say in front of the camera and stand there at the last press conference I am not going anywhere, I'm committed. Next thing you read, he's gone.
Speaker 3:They're gone, yeah, you know, and it's nothing that you can blame. Like everybody wants to get to the top of the mountain, it's just now that these guys are having this opportunity to say oh, the thing I hate is when guys aren't playing and they leave. Like you know, fight for your job, but if you have a better opportunity and you may never get to the NFL and get the money that you want, man, go get it. You know what.
Speaker 1:I'm saying what do you think about the players that are receiving a lot in NIL? They want to secure the fact that they are still healthy for the next season, that are not playing in bowl games because they don't want to get injured.
Speaker 3:So I feel that that's going to start being a part of the contracts to have these guys play in bowl games. It has to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it has to yeah it has to, but it pisses off these. Oh no, I'm with you, these guys a lot. Paying them that much bread, yeah, but was the bowl game actually matter?
Speaker 3:well, I think it depends, so that's what I would say what are you talking about, man?
Speaker 2:you know how much money gets gambled on these damn games. Well, that's not what I mean. I mean for the player, for the player themselves for the players. They're saying, hey, I'm not gonna go play a bowl game.
Speaker 1:That doesn't matter, maybe if it's CFB Maybe.
Speaker 2:That's the point.
Speaker 1:They're not making any more money. It doesn't matter though.
Speaker 2:It's like I paid and I got a buddy who's a big booster for University of Miami and when Cam Ward set out the second half he was like I'm never fucking paying another dollar.
Speaker 1:And let me ask you Cam Ward was drafted what round, what drafted?
Speaker 2:what round, what pick I?
Speaker 3:understand that.
Speaker 2:That doesn't make any If he got injured, but if he got injured.
Speaker 3:No offense, but it sucks for your boys.
Speaker 1:But if Cam Ward gets injured in that bowl game, when do you think he gets?
Speaker 2:drafted. It's a double-A short man.
Speaker 1:The whole thing is there's no fame and glory in the NCAA. There is in the NFL, though, and there's money. You're just an NFL guy in the NCAA. There is in the NFL, though, and there's money, you're just an NFL guy.
Speaker 3:Okay, johnny Manziel.
Speaker 1:Johnny Manziel Biggest bust, I would think, recently. I still know his name. He's still, he ain't making money, though he ain't making.
Speaker 3:NFL money, he's making money. Yeah, he's not making what he made in the NFL, but I man that cat Guarantees making money.
Speaker 1:Johnny Manziel is still a legend.
Speaker 2:Well, you know his parents are rich right.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, he made a lot of money before that. His parents are rich, he ain't rich.
Speaker 1:And actually talking about the NFL, this is something I want to get into. I mean, we only got 10 minutes left, so I mean we got to ask a former NFL player some NFL questions right, absolutely First of all, which was the favorite team that you played in?
Speaker 3:hopefully it's the bucks, uh-oh, you ain't gonna like it. No, don't say minnesota man, no, okay, here's what I would say, though I would say the chiefs, no, the rams. But here's why I say that because the rams the offense was. I mean, it was incredible. The bucks, I would say as a unit like. So I still hang out, you know, with derrick Brooks, boogerman, farland Corey, ivey Guys. You know that I'm known for 25 years, are still my good friends, right, but the Rams the offense was, were you on the Kurt Warner?
Speaker 1:offense yeah, Greatest show on turf. Greatest show on turf yeah.
Speaker 3:Torrey Holt, Isaac Brews, Marshall Falls.
Speaker 2:You're one of I wanted to say this earlier You're one of how many guys with a Super Bowl and a Grey Cup, the only?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:No, brian Timms has a Grey Cup and a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3:Oh shit no but.
Speaker 1:He had it with the Patriots.
Speaker 3:No no but it's NFL Europe too, so I won.
Speaker 2:That's right. I won the championship.
Speaker 3:Nfl Europe NFL Europe too, all three of those, all three leagues, yeah, but the thing about the thing that I would say about the teams was Mike Martz this is God's honest truth would walk in a meeting. We'd come back in after you know our victory, monday, or whatever. He'd come in a meeting and he would sit, have the TV on. He'd be like look Isaac, look at this, you're going to motion, tight motion here. You're going to bend him out, run that big seven. It's going to be a touchdown. Torrey, if he doesn't throw a touchdown to you because they play four, you're gonna split the safeties and it's gonna be a touchdown. And I'm telling you, sure as shit he'd do about 10 plays and three of them worked exactly the way he was gonna say it is it the the? The way that that offense was was. I mean, it was so fun to be a part of it, but you have marshall falcon on the team, right yeah?
Speaker 1:I mean, when you have a running danger and a receiving danger. I mean offense becomes a little bit easy when you have a running danger and a receiving danger. I mean offense becomes a little bit easy when you're playing against a decent or moderate defense, right yeah?
Speaker 3:No, for sure. I mean it's about I think it's about two right. Most teams have really talented players, but how can you put your talent in a position?
Speaker 2:to win, Like you're saying scheme, yeah.
Speaker 3:Martz would have plays where Marshall Falk would be covered by a nose guard. You know what I mean. That drastic as shit, not really.
Speaker 3:I'm exaggerating, but that's what it would be. We played. I'll never forget. We played Miami. We were both 6-0.
Speaker 3:And all the papers were saying the Rams have to run the ball because Miami plays this crazy cover two. I mean, they're a really good two-man and he's like they're going to have to run the ball. They're going to have to run the ball. March walks in. You're not running shit, you're throwing the ball. You know? First, eight plays of the game we throw the ball. Eight plays of the game we throw the ball. Eight plays. Three of the plays three times. We ran the exact same play, just different formations. You know what I mean. So it was like this ain't grid kid or flag, and this man has run the same play and the formations and motions are so crazy. So like the power that that offense had, one because of the guys in it. And then Kurt Warner, who was ridiculous, but the schemes were crazy. You know what I'm saying. Like he would manipulate guys, he would get, you know he didn't Get guys open, yeah, yeah you know what I'm saying, like you don't even.
Speaker 3:I mean, I have a lot of confidence in myself. I know I wasn't a top you know 30 receiver in the NFL, but I would be out there, shit. In the Super Bowl I caught a play. It was called opt out. It was nine, nine, four, zero. Hop to Oz, right, and it was for Oz Akeem.
Speaker 3:This is a funny story too. So Oz had been cramping up the whole game so he'd come off, go back on. I was going in and out for him. We call this play, it's third, and let's say third and six. We're down by seven to the Patriots. We're moving down the field. Marks calls a play, but Oz is screaming for me to come in. So he runs off, you know, in a different spot, and I run back in there and I'm running in'm not near Mark's, so I get in, run to play, catch it, you know, run out of bounds, whatever. And so a couple series later the guys are like oh shit was so fun. I was like what he said. March didn't know Oz was out. So he saw you running in and he called to play for Oz and he was freaking out.
Speaker 1:He's's like no, why is?
Speaker 3:you in there. And then when I caught it, they said he didn't say a word, he just kept walking.
Speaker 2:They were going nuts.
Speaker 3:They're like it's supposed to be Oz. What are you doing, oz?
Speaker 2:That is funny as shit.
Speaker 1:I'm pretty sure y'all had like the most offensive yardages that year like ever recorded in the NFL before.
Speaker 3:I think it was, uh, peyton manning, right, I can't remember. I just remember saying they we made something. It was the greatest show on turf. For a reason, because I mean running passing.
Speaker 1:I mean y'all had, like I don't know. I want to say like a combined, like fuck, 7 000, 8 000 yards of offense shit now.
Speaker 2:They don't even have a damn team yeah, it's crazy oh, no, no, no we were just talking about because oh, are you talking?
Speaker 3:about st louis.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, because the rams won in 2021, even though it was in la yeah, that's what I'm saying, yeah it's not even there I remember my buddy um, who was it?
Speaker 2:I think it was dylan thompson. At the time he was playing for st louis, our practice squad guy. Yeah, so they move out to LA and he's like, oh man, I'm freaking so pumped up, I get to live in LA and all this other shit. And then he's like, oh, forgot about California taxes, ah yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, missouri also had it right. Missouri also has state taxes.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but not like California. Not like California, no, no, no, california's, california is really dangerous.
Speaker 1:Is that why you decided to come to Florida, even though?
Speaker 3:I know you played for the yeah, that's the only. I had never even been to Florida until the Bucs signed me yeah, and then I'm never leaving.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know it was. It's a hard place to leave. Man Well. Arizona doesn't have state taxes either.
Speaker 3:Yeah, arizona though it's hot, it's a desert. Yeah, desert. Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 1:It's it's just there's cactus and dirt everywhere I've been there plenty of times, man, I love it. Yeah, yeah I. I tell my wife all the time, if I ever gotta move, it's either miami or phoenix or I stay here in tanahoula.
Speaker 3:It'd be tough, my that's why I mean it'd be tough too too, much shit going on, yeah, that's I mean miami's
Speaker 1:on the coast, bro, and you have the cross breeze from the Caribbean Strait. It's not that bad.
Speaker 2:Go to St Pete man. Wave your pride flag, the hell.
Speaker 1:How'd you know? I had one of those.
Speaker 3:I haven't known you for long, but I don't see you with a pride flag.
Speaker 1:No, I'm not, Not even close, I mean, unless I borrow one from Steven.
Speaker 3:Good one? I definitely don't see that.
Speaker 2:But shit, man, yeah. So I mean, so talk us through, like you know, the rest of your NFL, kind of career and kind of bouncing around. And then you know, obviously, what you're doing now is with the Yo Murphy performance and just to kind of close this out here. I know you got to run.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, I think I was fortunate enough to play with some really good football players and that helped me in training. We were just naming Oz Torrey Holt, isaac Bruce, marshall Falk, kurt Warner, warwick, dunn Allstott Allstott who else? Keyshawn Keyshawn Johnson.
Speaker 1:Tony Dungy, tony Dungy.
Speaker 3:Warren Sapp. Warren Sapp Booger McFarlane.
Speaker 2:Redell you still talk about Redell.
Speaker 3:Yeah, redell, I like that.
Speaker 1:Kenan McArdle.
Speaker 3:No, kenan came when I left, but then I went, you know, when I was in Smith.
Speaker 1:Shay, you played with Chris Carter. Yeah, that's an OG right there.
Speaker 2:And Randy Moss. I don't know if you heard that. Well, I heard Randy Moss. Yeah, he's like Chris Carter.
Speaker 1:No, but this is the reason why A lot of people give grief to Chris Carter because of Randy Moss and people skip over. I mean it was 80 and 81, bro. They were both great receivers. Yeah yeah, randy Moss, did I mean one-handed catches? But you got to give some credit to Chris Carter, bro. Oh yeah, chris.
Speaker 2:Thousand-yard season. Does Randy still come during the offseason?
Speaker 3:and train with you guys. He hasn't for a couple years. We, you know. So I don't know if you know, but we've been doing some stuff with Gruden too. He won't go outside, but he loves getting in the boards, you know, yeah, and yeah, and then. So that's what I'm trying to do this year is really develop it. Talk to Chris, you know, because he's down south and just try to get those you know whether it's coaches or older players to have more of a presence when we do those things in May in the classroom, like the draft prep stuff, yeah, and then have guys like yourself come on the field to work with guys you know what I mean Like the CIs, like Riddell.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. I love being in the heat. Yeah, I can't do the board shit.
Speaker 3:Well, see, and that's the thing is, he's just the opposite. You know what I mean? He's right there over there by Avila all day long, not even far right down the street from here. Sit there and open up all of his boxes from all the schools. Oh yeah, all the schools and stuff. Yeah, that was cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, I'm telling you, man, anytime, and I told you this off the camera. But anytime, man, you want me to come out there with those guys, I'll throw and I'll coach them up.
Speaker 3:Whatever you need to do, we'll also come back on for another episode, man, because we didn't ask you enough questions. Yeah, this was a short one. Yeah, no, I'm good, I, I, I enjoyed it, it's fun, it's fun and this probably is the shortest one we've done it absolutely is, is it?
Speaker 1:yeah, like how long you guys stay in here. Usually an hour and a half to two.
Speaker 2:Yeah, at least well mean, usually we're drinking too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can imagine this shit starts flying around. I can imagine you too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, the guests too.
Speaker 1:Yeah and the guests.
Speaker 2:He had people have to, they signed waivers. Yeah, yeah, we had a little accident.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you about now. We need them to sign if they're drinking.
Speaker 2:And that's the kind of fun of games you have on sports and suits.
Speaker 3:We won't say who it was.
Speaker 1:We won't say who it was. It could be anybody, who knows.
Speaker 2:We'll say it on camera. No, we'll not. But, yo man appreciate you doing it. We're going to be in touch, man, and don't forget Yo Murphy Performance. Check it out. Is that the Instagram handle, or what's the Instagram handle?
Speaker 3:Yeah, just Yo Murph.
Speaker 2:Yo, murph yeah Yo.
Speaker 3:Murph Performance what you said.
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Speaker 1:That would have been nice to know before. Yeah, I know that we can edit that shit, but all right.
Speaker 2:Don't forget, like, comment, subscribe. We'll see you next time, cheers. We got Nectar Nootropics All right. It's got cognoscent in it. It's got caffeine 50 milligrams of caffeine. I'm going to go coffee guy never have, never will be, but these damn things, 50 milligrams of caffeine, jumpstart your day, zap your brain a little bit. They got jalapeno, lime, black cherry, spearmint, sweet mango and fresh mint, and let me just tell you, the mint will light your ass on fire. It's a whole different kind of kind of buzz, so to speak.
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