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Sports & Suits: Where Athletics Meets Ambition
Welcome to the official Sports & Suits playlist, your ultimate destination for conversations that bridge the world of athletics with the drive and discipline of the corporate arena. Each episode features candid interviews and thought-provoking discussions with top athletes, business leaders, and influencers who share how they harness the competitive spirit of sports to excel in their professional lives. Dive into real-life stories of resilience, leadership, and adaptability—traits that power championship teams on the field and high-performing organizations off it.
Tune in to discover the mindset shifts, training regimens, and success strategies used by champions in sports and business alike. Whether you’re an aspiring entrepreneur, a seasoned CEO, or simply a curious listener hungry for fresh perspectives, Sports & Suits delivers insights and inspiration that go beyond the scoreboard. Subscribe, hit play, and join us on this journey—where athletics truly meets ambition.
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Beyond the Game: Finding Purpose After Professional Sports with Adam Morejon
What happens when the stadium lights go out and the cheering stops? For athletes transitioning to life after sports, the path forward isn't always clear. In this candid conversation with former hockey player Phil Gilchrist and entrepreneur Adam Morejon, we explore the powerful parallels between athletic mindsets and business success.
Phil shares his remarkable journey from University of Tampa hockey player to opening his own gym at just 21 years old, eventually becoming a consultant with the Tampa Bay Lightning. His story reveals how authentic playing experience allowed him to bridge the gap between performance science and practical application – something many trainers without competitive backgrounds simply couldn't offer.
The discussion dives deep into how the fundamentals of sports psychology transfer directly to business: the discipline of consistent practice, the resilience to bounce back from failure, and the power of team culture. As Adam puts it, "You're going to get your ass beat repeatedly. Can you get your ass back up and continue on? That's how you gain respect." This mindset becomes invaluable when building real estate businesses where rejection and competition are everyday realities.
Perhaps most illuminating is their exploration of the locker room mentality and how it creates bonds that extend far beyond sports. The camaraderie, honest communication, and shared struggles forge connections that become invaluable networking opportunities years later. Their current business success stems directly from relationships established through these athletic connections.
For entrepreneurs looking to build their own success, the episode offers practical advice on growing social media presence, maintaining consistency, and delivering authentic value. Adam's YouTube channel grew from zero to 58,000 followers in just one year through unwavering commitment to weekly content, proving that persistence matters more than perfection.
Subscribe now to hear more conversations with athletes, entrepreneurs, and thought leaders who are redefining success on their own terms. Your next breakthrough might just come from understanding how sports psychology can transform your approach to business and life.
All right, boys and girls, ladies and gentlemen, we are back with another episode of Sporting Suits. We got Adam Orojon, man Holy shit. Known this guy since I was probably in diapers. Yeah, man, I guess.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, I'm older than you, so I've known you since you were in diapers. Yeah, yeah, Well, that's what I meant.
Speaker 1:But holy shit, and he bought his buddy. Paul, not Paul.
Speaker 3:Phil Jesus Christ, should we redo that whole fucking thing? If you want to go for it, yeah, yeah, honestly, I'm going to just keep that. Holy shit. Hey, cheers, cheers.
Speaker 4:That's why I?
Speaker 1:fucked up, I forgot to cheers.
Speaker 4:I got my seatbelt on. I can't you cheers to start. Yeah, oh, you can't get your glass.
Speaker 3:You better get your glass now. His last name is there we go All right. Now we can start.
Speaker 1:There it is Welcome to another episode of Sporting Suits. We got a longtime family friend, Adam Morjan, aka Adam Morajon. We got his friend Phil Gilchrist. Welcome to the freaking show man. Glad we could make this happen. Yeah, man, Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 2:And real quick. Go through your Instagram handle Tampafloridaliving, and youtube is tampa, florida living yep, you can find them on there, uh.
Speaker 1:So yeah, man, we'll just, we're just gonna dive right in, man. I mean, like I said, I've been trying to get you on for a couple times. You're like, what are we going to talk about?
Speaker 2:this busy boys, so we're gonna free ball this thing man, I love it. I love it. Let's see, let's see where it takes us. Yeah commando no doubt.
Speaker 1:Uh, our fathers have been best friends for fucking.
Speaker 2:I think grandparents. It goes all the way back to three generations. So grandparents were friends. Our dads grew up together. Naturally, they just partied with us in tow, and the rest is history. The rest is history. Here we are now.
Speaker 3:Yeah that's it. Are you Cuban also? Yes, Cuban background. That's why.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I'll tell you what, the quick little story about his dad I remember. So him and my brother lived Together, together, at a beach house right next to the Don Cesar. They were cooking one night and, you know, they invited us all over. So we're over there and I see your dad flicking up like peppers in his mouth just eating them. I'm like the fuck is this guy doing? Yeah, I was like, hey man, what are you david, what are you? What are you eating? He's like, ah, you know, ghost peppers. I said, all right, I like. He's like you like spices. I love spices. So I you know, he's like I take one, I take one. I was like, oh it's, it's not that meanwhile this guy's popping them like skittles. I pop one. He's just looking at me, just waiting, and I'm chewing. I'm like, here it goes, and he's just dying laughing.
Speaker 2:It was like the scene from dumb and dumber, the guys were just looking at him.
Speaker 1:He's like, yeah, get, get yourself some milk, stick your head in the freezer.
Speaker 2:It was fucking painful, absolutely painful, but yeah, I mean that was it was even better back in the day when uh, you're not paying attention and the backstory is my dad's owned a restaurant over 50 years in tampa, La Tom Restaurant. And you know you'd be in the restaurant and they'd get that same pepper and they'd put it on your little belt buckle and then somebody would go to use the bathroom a half hour later and they'd touch that and then use the bathroom.
Speaker 1:Oh God, it was like the same thing.
Speaker 2:Hey, put in milk, put ketchup on it, it'll take it away, that's brutal.
Speaker 1:A lot of good old stories. Oh yeah, La Tom's seen some shit.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, Tampa's old mafia. Oh yeah, there's a lot of good stories here Cigar City Mafia type shit, oh yeah. Oh yeah, I saw a guy get his knees knocked out, holy fuck, and I was 10 years old at the old restaurant. Don't go back there. I'm not naming names, they're just part of Tampa, right? They're regular people, absolutely.
Speaker 1:You know the Capitanos? Yeah, yeah, we had Lex Frank's son, Lex. Okay, he was sitting right where you were. He actually runs the National Meat Day thing and all great people too.
Speaker 3:How do you spell the terms?
Speaker 2:L-A-T-A-M. This was for Latin America. Oh, okay, yeah, grandfather came from cuba. Uh, my dad was playing ball at the time and then my grandfather suddenly passed away, so my dad took over and, you know, just ran the show and it's still running now.
Speaker 3:It's just catering is it a liquor store?
Speaker 2:nope, uh, that was next to us, yeah, but I mean, old stories were like andre the giant used to come in crush beers place was elite man.
Speaker 3:It was nuts oh shit, you're in ebor city, bro. Yeah, so you're seventh ave.
Speaker 1:Yep, yeah, old school mafia, okay, yeah, definitely, definitely we've all been around, but yeah, without you know, will you explain, you know? Phil and how you guys met each other and kind of go from there.
Speaker 2:I don't want to you know phil, just sit there, absolutely. So I mean you first asked me he's like hey, man, I'm thinking of this idea. I want to talk about people that have background with sports. Right, grew up, whatever level it is Talk about, you were in sports and how you took that into the business world, right. So I said, man, you got to have Phil on, because I met Phil about two years ago roughly now and we'll get into his story, but essentially where he came from was a hockey player and then he's transitioned to this business world, like like trailblazer, right, right, and I think his story is amazing and I was like, man, you just got to get him on here because it might actually be better than my own story. So I mean, I don't know if you want him to jump right into yeah, jump right in dude yeah don't be afraid to interrupt man just imagine like it's a conversation, bro.
Speaker 4:Chop it up, thanks for having me guys, obviously, uh yeah. So for me, born and raised, new Jersey, came over to the University of Tampa to play hockey. You know kind of where UT was. At that point you kind of decided like all right, hockey's really over, but you know what, you can still go to school and you can still play.
Speaker 2:Basically. He came to Tampa and he's like not going back to Jersey no shot.
Speaker 4:I see some.
Speaker 2:UT girls. I see some UT girls. I'm staying. I see some UT girls. I see some UT girls, I'm staying.
Speaker 1:I was just telling him. Man, we had Tampa Terrence out here the other day and he said the exact same thing. From Massachusetts, came down here and he was like why the fuck would I go back? How can you not?
Speaker 4:Like you go on that campus like you see, like where you're going to be living, you know the girls, the pool, the first year of the team, and just continued playing. You know it was a great balance of school and and staying in the game, you know at the same time. So after graduating, you know, I studied human, human performance and sports science. So I was like, okay, like you know, like they give you all the education in school, but like, what do you do with? Do with it, right? So my thing was is obviously a hockey player, Like I wanted to bridge the gap between human performance and hockey, because we all know, you know, like back in our coaching days, there's coaches that have played the game and then there's coaches that haven't played the game. So there's just a difference between when you have a coach that's played it from the actual playing level compared to the training level. And what's your opinion on that? I'm interested to hear. It's anytime you that I played with a coach that's never actually played the game.
Speaker 1:There's always a gap, so I I would.
Speaker 4:I would say the exact same thing because it's it's more of like an analytical approach, but you can't ever tell anybody how to hit you can't, you can't never hit somebody.
Speaker 1:That's what i'm's what I'm saying and I get Twitter and Instagram beefs all the time with these quarterback trainers Like you never fucking played a snap of real ball.
Speaker 2:Like how are you talking about? Yeah, you might know mechanics, but your on-field IQ is not live. Yeah, it's not live, it's Biden-esque.
Speaker 4:Well, yeah.
Speaker 3:And you don't even know the mechanics.
Speaker 4:A bit sleepy, but it's those little details that they miss. You know, in hockey it's such an edge work game Skating, like you don't know how the edges work. If you don't skate Right, there's always that gap that just can't be made up by a coach, right? So like that's where I really started, you know, like, as far as bridging that gap between the science part and the playing, yeah, coming out of college, though, because I don't know this.
Speaker 2:Coming out of college, did you instantly jump into business world, or did you like?
Speaker 4:teeter-totter with it. It's so funny man.
Speaker 3:And did you go to college for business?
Speaker 2:No, no to play hockey. Oh yeah, yeah the performance. Let's just be honest.
Speaker 4:You're in college, right head out there, think you can take over the whole entire world, you can do anything. That's what it was. It was like, all right, I'm gonna start a gym. I'm 21 years old, like I don't know what's entailed into it, but I could fucking do it you know what I mean, right let's go, let's get it going. So, uh, we found the gym. It was going out of business. It was nine thousand dollars to buy it.
Speaker 4:That's cheap and, yes, my dad's like, hey, you want nine grand to go grad school, which that degree is going to do no more for you than what you already have, or you know, let's dive into business. So we just did it, we did it. We were in the right area, Ballast Point, it was kind of like a ghetto.
Speaker 3:South of Gandy. You guys know Ballast Point is right off of Bayshore. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's right off of Bayshore, bro. That's no cheap area either.
Speaker 4:It was right off Bayshore and where Interbay was the intersection, no shit. So again, you walked out of my gym and there's two crack houses right on the right-hand side. You're just like I don't know if this is a good place to buy.
Speaker 2:They don't work out that much.
Speaker 3:They don't need to right. They got a lot of steps, but they don't work out that much.
Speaker 2:They got a lot of steps, but they don't walk out that much. Yeah, there's a lot of things going on in there.
Speaker 4:So it was just yeah, it was like right place, right time, right mindset. And then, you know, I volunteered for the Lightning, for, you know, like a kid's camp, and the trainer was actually from the Chicago Bulls and he had a family emergency and I was just an on-ice coach at that time. And they're like Phil, you own a gym, like you know, can you run our like strength part for us? I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah, no problem.
Speaker 1:How old are you at this point? 21. That's fucking wild, yeah 21.
Speaker 3:Yeah what did your dad do?
Speaker 4:if you don't mind me asking, so my dad was an IT director in Piscataway, but it's actually Canadian Jersey boy.
Speaker 3:Really. Yeah, that accent is not Canadian whatsoever. I heard a little.
Speaker 1:Bro, I'm hearing Canadian, it's the hockey culture, you know. Yeah, see, like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's the culture.
Speaker 4:You know Come on.
Speaker 3:eh, let's go boys, let's go boys. Yeah, but yeah, that's how it all kind of started. So he had business acumen. I'm assuming that he taught you.
Speaker 4:Well, he was in education and it's funny we're sitting here on a podcast and I was just telling you he was actually one of the founders of podcasting. It was called audio blogging at that time. So he was very tech savvy. He was the best dad in the world, but we were completely different. As far he's a tech guy, I'm the sports guy. Yeah and yeah, just right place, right moment, right as the occasion Wound up being a consultant with the Tampa Bay Lightning, still to this day Now, my role is obviously, as I got back more into real estate, I sold the company. It's a lot more minor now.
Speaker 2:But you had. I'm going to jump in there.
Speaker 3:You're skipping over something that I thought was interesting. Oh boy.
Speaker 2:No, no, no. You, oh boy. No, no, no. You helped correct me if I'm wrong too. Didn't you help build out those like child or not child, what are they called? Like the younger programs for kids, like, was it AdventHealth, ice and all that stuff? It was yeah, wasn't that part of all that I mean?
Speaker 4:yeah, I can go into a million things we did. But yeah, you're obviously always starting with the youth right Like, at the end of the day, when you're part of a professional organization, and I think the reason the Lightning are so successful is because they give so much back to the community, put as many hockey sticks in kids' hands as they possibly can, and that was what I was a part of right Like, growing the game, and that's what got me into the organization in that type of way and then, once you're in there, right, like in your consultant, and you start to get the players in the off seasons, the ones that are staying in, and then that's how the business really started to make a name for itself and really grow.
Speaker 1:What was the name of the gym?
Speaker 4:It was called ShoreFit, shorefit.
Speaker 1:Yep Sold it back about three years ago.
Speaker 4:So how did that, just for the sake of the podcast, transition from play ball to business Cause that's not the end of the line of business for you yeah, I mean uh we're doing real estate now, by the way, right yeah, I mean, I think it really just comes back to like you know, when you, when you're an athlete, right, like it's all about, like the culture you, you create competitiveness and it's all culture based yeah.
Speaker 4:So if you, you know, if you look back and you know you played at a high level too, like you've been part of teams that have been championship teams or winning teams or whatever it is like you go back to, what's the difference between those years? It's your culture in your locker room, right?
Speaker 1:That is really the identity of you know winning and it's kind of drained down to the high school level and even the youth at this point, with the transfer portal and all these guys like, oh man, this team's doing good, I'm going to go over there. This team in college, they're going to pay me a lot more money. I'm going to go to the fuck over there. And that's why, you see, like Nick Saban, you see these other coaches saying I'm out of this shit.
Speaker 4:Because you can't develop a culture. I mean, it's again like when you're an athlete, right Like you're. You know you have adversity. You're always constantly fighting. You got to have that. You know fail forward mentality. You know you got to keep when your teammates are down, you got to find a way to keep it. A short memory to you know to bounce back and continue on. And that's like what I built in the business, like that was the identity of everything.
Speaker 1:So now you and Adam are collaborating on real estate ventures or so yeah.
Speaker 4:So when I sold the company, I had to not compete, so I had to reinvent myself again right. 21 to 32, 33 years old, you're doing one thing and that's all you know.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 4:But at the end of the day, right Business is business. So after the, not compete and it can't. You know, really, uh, I protected myself with, uh, with the lightning, but outside of that, like I can't train no more, not in the.
Speaker 2:US, not in the United States, so you're still training with them.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so I found a way around that and I work in the Swiss League.
Speaker 4:There's always loopholes, yeah yeah, I go over to Europe now in the summertime and work in the Swiss League, which is, you know, the second best league in the world. Sick, why, why did you decide to sell the company? It's a young man's game. It's a young man's, you know like you trade time for money. You know you're starting to look at it like all right, does this take me to 50 years old? No, I didn't have. It's like a player's career At some point, like do you want to leave? You want to be forced out?
Speaker 3:or do you want to leave on your own terms?
Speaker 2:Now do you want to tell the audience how much you sold it for?
Speaker 1:He was skirting around and I was trying to piss it out. I'll tell you one thing Sean is not afraid to fish.
Speaker 3:Let's put it this way it was a lot of money, it was a good amount, but it wasn't enough. How many?
Speaker 4:figures Phil, it was enough.
Speaker 3:More than six, more than six. It was more than six, so that would be the number seven, right.
Speaker 4:It was closer, yeah so. But the thing was, is it's not enough to call it a day, that's right, you know. So we got to run it back and do it again.
Speaker 2:Right, so that's how you got to do it in real estate. Yeah, so it's funny. I'm sitting here and I'm-.
Speaker 3:Tell the real story how we met.
Speaker 2:I am what is the real story? So so I'm sitting here and I'm trying to grow my real estate team right. For anybody watching, I've been in real estate I don't know 12 ish years, let's call it in tampa. Uh, being born and raised here, it was always our contacts, like all my business was in my phone because we knew everybody. Right problem is covid, fake covid, whatever you want to call it. Hit 2020, let's call it the year the pandemic the pandemic and and.
Speaker 2:But I couldn't go out and meet my clients for coffee or beers anymore to connect. So I was like let me rethink this right. I'm sitting at home Like how do I do business? I don't want to cold call anybody and I took like a YouTube course how to do YouTube. It kind of got the basics going and then I just unleashed it and now we have one of the biggest real estate YouTube channels in Tampa. And then that went into social media and just kept going Right. But in doing that I was like holy shit, this is more than just one person can handle. I need to grow a team. So, out of necessity, started growing a team, had everything in place but needed more agents. So I put the word out there. It's like this guy, brian Marks, is our preferred lender. This guy, brian marks, is our preferred lender. Like hey, marks, what is you know? Do you know anybody?
Speaker 4:and so I think you actually went to school with marks right ut, so he was at his ut class and so they knew each other.
Speaker 2:And he's like, man, this guy, phil, just got his license. I think he's a guy that you would want to know, but he's super green, he just got his license. I was like, yeah, I don't have time for anybody green, I don't want to grow anybody green. And he's like just trust me on this one, like have a conversation with him. I was like fine, so I talked to him. This guy was like hey, blah, blah, blah, did all that stuff. Like I'll be the best guy you've ever had One of those speeches. And you're like, yeah, that's great. All right, man, have a great day. And he's like, no, seriously, we need to figure this out. All right, man, yeah, sounds great, I'll think about it, we'll touch base. And then, finally, that third call. He's like listen, here's where I'm at. I'll cut onions for an entire year. I'll scrub toilets, whatever you need to do. You know you can tell the restaurant background, right, I'm cutting onions.
Speaker 1:He's like I'll scrub toilets.
Speaker 2:It just toilets for whatever you need for a year, but after that I'm going to play a bigger role on your team and I'm just letting you know right now there's a time ticking on this, because if you don't want me, I'll go somewhere else and they're going to win.
Speaker 2:I told him it was going to be the worst real estate decision you ever made, and he goes here's the thing you could tell me once and I'll do it, I'll learn it and I'm going, I'm not going to be up your. And I was like fuck it, let's go. And I was like limited leads, like five a month, barely giving you anything. But I have to teach him how to read a contract.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Right Never did any of that at all Like three months later, I'm like he's like no, it's good. I mean I'm crushing it, like I think one or two deals out of every five leads he was closing, which normally it's one out of every 10. So I'm like he's crushing it, but maybe it's because he doesn't have that many leads. He has time and he's like oh no, I'm actually building a house in Ballast Point. I'm like what? He's like? Yeah, I've got an investor. I went and got the builder made a deal. We're about 900K into it with the money that he made from his sale, about 900K into it. We're going to sell it for 1.4. And I negotiated the deal. So I'm like you're one of real estate.
Speaker 2:he's he's smashing that he's killing. I was like, all right, so you got more time. He's like, yeah, I'm fucking bored. I'm like, okay, let's go. You have a real estate call. I mean you're gonna have things that you're learning in the business because you've never read a contract I got you on that. You call me, I'll answer it. Other than that, just go sell. So by the end of the year, I mean made 150k, sold this other. So by the end of the year, I mean made 150K, sold this other house. By the end of the year we went to, it was October, not even a full year, and I was like we're going to Miami for a conference like 5,000 agents, I'm going on stage to talk and just go with me. Let's use this as a strategy session Came out of that. I think I'm going to make you my manager he's like what?
Speaker 2:and I was like yeah, and I had guys on my team for 10 years making 300 000. I was like I think I'm gonna make you a manager. He's like what do you why? And I was like what do you think? He's like your job is going to be to double my business, okay. So I went back to the team. Hey guys, this is what I'm thinking everybody buys in. They're like we can see it. I'm like if they can see it, that's fucking cool. And you can see it. I was like let's roll. And here we are, year two. He's already sold like 13 14 million on the year.
Speaker 2:We're not supposed to be selling, not supposed to be selling. This year we're up to about 40 million on the year for our team just small team but crushing and uh, you know, the rest is history now we're looking at personal business, so it's a good message.
Speaker 4:We're out there. If you build a good business, it is transferable into other.
Speaker 1:No, absolutely I think you know if you, if you treat people you know worth a shit. Yeah, word spreads, but here's what's here, here's what's wild. The table's a lot smaller than people think, yeah here's.
Speaker 2:What's wild is that we keep having to adjust our, our systems and growth. And it all goes back to the reason this podcast is relationships. Right now we're taking the mentality of sports, which is competitive, aggressive, I'm going to get it done kind of mentality, and then mixing that in with business world relationships. And so all the people that he, we, were at the gym. We go to the gym three days a week, 6.30 in the morning, everything from high intensity to you name it. We work out with professional hockey players and then we go and do freaking goat yoga, whatever.
Speaker 3:I don't give a shit what it is.
Speaker 2:I'm not really doing goat yoga, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:That is a thing, though. Yeah, it is a thing.
Speaker 2:No, I pulled a hammy and I was like dude, we need to do something different. So we did yoga for two weeks to heal because we still had to.
Speaker 4:Can't break it 100, but what?
Speaker 2:I loved is we're all of a sudden working out with this three days a week in the morning. It was, uh a guy that was retired. He's 50. Yeah, played 400 nhl buddy.
Speaker 4:Yeah, metro, great guy man, we gotta get him in here oh he.
Speaker 2:He played for the bruins, he played for the lightning 400, nhl 400 nhl games.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and he was the underdog of the underdog story in nhl still missing a tooth hockey player. Hockey player yeah, I love it and he's like boys.
Speaker 2:I love that. I'm like in a locker room mentality now because we're all working out like pushing each other while we're working out, yeah.
Speaker 2:We're like, bitch, you keep going, you know. And now it's like, hey, we're lightning coaches is with one of the players, they want to play doubles against us, let's go. Next thing, you know, it's like we're building that relationship where now it's like the locker room group, we get our, you know, you burn off the steam from business all the time, right and. But you didn't. You're 50 and you didn't let go of that, right, or 40 and didn't let go that. We still have that while we're getting in shape. And those are relationships. Well then, next, we sold them a house, right. Then, next thing, you know, we're in the gym this week.
Speaker 2:One lady, jason Vargas, you remember him, yes, I do, yeah, so old friend, his aunt used to cut my dad's hair. Now, this is not, this is just business. I see her. I'm like, hey, how you doing Good. She's like I'm thinking of selling my house in Wellswood, my old neighborhood. I'm like, made that connection. Next thing, you know, 30 minutes later we're finishing up. Our workout guy comes all the way across the gym. He's like, hey, my son is graduating berkeley. The other one, jesuit um, he got a scholarship for hockey and he used to coach his son in his teens or young teens. So he's like he's like well, what are you gonna do with that house? Well, I think it's about time to downsize because I don't have kids in the house anymore. And next thing, you know we're talking and the guy owns a lead company out of Silicon Valley. So he's like talking to me about leads with our YouTube and I mean it's literally just relationships and you're out there and you treat people good and you just always thinking though real estate.
Speaker 4:You got to wear it. You got to wear it A hundred percent, there's no doubt, and so that's where it's like we can't stop selling because we're just us and it works, though it's like everything else.
Speaker 1:I mean, how many things have you done with the real estate and just kind of networking with y'all's business? Too many yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean even you. We walked in. He doesn't know me for shit, and I guarantee me for shit and I guarantee you I dropped real estate on them because I had to, but it's because you need to know who I am and I told you about my my channel before I could, because it's business yeah it's part of you. You wear it all the time.
Speaker 3:You're always going to be a football player well, I actually looked you up before you walked in, because I always like to know who it is. But I don't make it known that I know who you are, because I want to just get the first impression of what you think I would react as.
Speaker 2:Fair enough. He asked me what I wanted to drink. Yeah, I did, did I?
Speaker 1:have some pictures out there.
Speaker 3:Yo dog, I literally I went water, I went Sprite, all this stuff, or tequila.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that's how it works. He's also like yeah, I'm on Garcia's podcast, I'm drinking fucking water.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was my response. Whatever he's drinking, I know it's not water.
Speaker 3:That is what he said. That is what he said Because I'm worried.
Speaker 4:I'm like five minutes late. You're like dude, you don't know what podcast we're going. You'll be fine.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Steven's going to be late every time.
Speaker 1:Late every single time.
Speaker 2:I'm wearing a hat, if that tells you anything, because normally we'd be a little bit, you know, not so casual, I guess.
Speaker 1:But I love it, man, I love it. No, it is, it is, it is awesome. Yeah, we'll take a quick little break, we'll reload our refreshments and then kind of kick back and go from. I kind of want to hear more about the TC playing the football operation and then, you know, kind of getting into me because you were with Tom for a little bit doing the catering thing and then, you know, real estate, so cool, we'll be, uh, right back. Don't forget to like, comment, subscribe, smash all the fucking all the buttons.
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Speaker 1:So the nectar od man. Oh, this thing is nice. What is? What flavor is that?
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Speaker 1:No, no, I need to get that. That's right, nectar, you got to send me some shit now I'm running low, running low, but yeah, man. So Adam played high school football with my brother at Tampa Catholic. Yeah, just kind of tell some war stories about that, if you can.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, I mean I'll tell you this much. Came from a sports family. My dad doesn't look like it but he did like 99 triathlons. In fact he did like three Ironman. One of them was kind of cool, it was Lance Armstrong placed eighth in it. It was like 1988 St Croix Ironman, I think your uncle I've done triathlons with your uncle Augie With Augie. Yeah, we uh crushed it and we used to. I think we used to do the triathlon just to get drunk afterwards.
Speaker 2:So it's about that's about right yeah, but my dad played baseball, wrestled through college. Uh, you know story is he? He touched the pros a little bit in baseball, which again you wouldn't know that necessarily. Um, so growing up it was natural like, hey, you're a ball player, you're playing baseball. So as early as I can remember I was throwing baseball.
Speaker 3:That's all Cuban families, bro, sure, sure.
Speaker 2:But not football.
Speaker 3:You put on many.
Speaker 2:Cuban football players that I know of.
Speaker 3:Maybe a.
Speaker 2:Rodriguez somewhere out there.
Speaker 3:My dad put us in fucking soccer. He's from Cuba and so is my mom.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so baseball was the way to go. Played like 13, 14 years of baseball and never touched a football outside of street ball until I got to tampa, catholic right, right, freshman year, chasing down a uh, a ball and track coach goes yo, you got some speed, why don't you ever do track? And I was like I actually own the record, the four by 100 at st lawrence, which is no big deal, uh, but it was like a regional crap whatever with your brother. So your brother's already doing track and he's like yo, why don't you just do track? I was like, yeah, so we got into the 60, the 100, you know, speed guy, uh, did great there. Went to regionals, you know, touched on some, some states a little bit. And then football coach sees you there and he's like you got speed. You ever play football.
Speaker 2:It's like no, but the other way around now jump into football started as a running back because, uh, oh no, he went to, I went to receiver and I did all right at receiver and then the running back got hurt and he says jump in, jumped in. That's where I learned that I like to bang heads um, because I would laugh every time I get hit. And then he's like I need you on defense. So starting running back, starting cornerback, corner. Yep, and I played corner until about junior year. It was kind of a cool period. We had Herman Edwards son as our safety.
Speaker 2:We called him Charmin because he was a little soft on hitting uh, a little, a little soft on hitting she. Uh, he'd pull up a little bit but it was funny because he ran a 4-4-40 back then allegedly. And then his senior year, allegedly he transferred to Clearwater Central Catholic, which is our competing team, and they were like, hey, he was talking trash in the newspaper and they were like, hey, go on him, nothing. He had three catches, the whole game.
Speaker 1:What the hell was his first name? Sharman?
Speaker 2:Sharman Edwards nothing. He had three catches, three catches, the whole game.
Speaker 1:What the hell was his first name, charmin? Charmin Edwards. I can't remember his first name, but we had them.
Speaker 2:We had Sean King used to come to the games.
Speaker 1:Warwick Dunn's little brothers were running backs the Smothers brothers, yep.
Speaker 2:Were running backs for this. I mean, we had a really cool squad back then of people just coming. So yeah, football to me really brought it all together.
Speaker 1:That was the one sport that I would say who was head coach? Bob Henriquez, it was.
Speaker 2:Bob Henriquez, it wasn't all so I had a mix right. So JV. You know I started at JV.
Speaker 1:But was Bob Henriquez, all the way through your?
Speaker 2:senior year. No, no, because he left Right.
Speaker 1:Who was the senior year man?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was Henriquez, and then we had Finn. We had three. Oh, they brought in a guy from New York. Something Deal, John Deal, that's right. Yep, I don't know, he was horrible.
Speaker 1:He didn't last very long.
Speaker 2:No, one year and then we had a filler so we got changed around some coaches but ultimately, man, football was a great sport, team sport way better than baseball for me, way better than anything else that I had experienced. You get that locker room feel. Baseball has that, but very different, right.
Speaker 1:I mean I'd equate you know you're a hockey background guy. I would equate football to hockey guys, of course.
Speaker 4:That locker room, I mean guys shooting the shit, talking shit going after, after the games, and yeah, it's the most physical, demanding sports, everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let me go put it this way baseball, like the funny part was like I'm gonna light your shoe on fire and play pranks right. Football, it's like I was a freshman and the senior guys were like putting me in the mud and walking across me as a bridge so they didn't get their cleats wet and like.
Speaker 2:But like the story's there, it's like you have cheerleaders, you don't cheerleaders in baseball. You know it's. It's everything about football to me is my dad was pissed that I didn't go because I would have gone to college. All my friends played at clemson rob valiente all these guys went to clemson. They went to different sports. I was right there, level with them in baseball, but stopped after 12 years to play football. And I'll say, three concussions later I don't regret it at all. I might forget it, but I don't regret it.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So no, football was great. All those sports, though to this day I still take back, we talk about it all the time Never played hockey, he never played football, Well you go in the hockey locker room. You're talking shit you want a locker box. That's what you're doing. Put the helmet on, the gloves on you, just go at it in the locker room. Hell yeah I love it.
Speaker 1:It's awesome, but it's got something to say. I'll tell you what man that's. That's one thing that I miss more than and I've said it to deontay, I've said it to all these guys that I've had on the podcast so far that's one thing that I miss the most about football not playing is the locker room. Banter and the camaraderie that we had.
Speaker 2:The shit talking was on a whole different level in football, and I'm sure it's the same in hockey and I'm saying this not from a high, high level, right, because I didn't go to college play ball, uh. But no matter what you're digging in, you're getting your ass kicked a lot and you're digging in and you're how you know.
Speaker 2:Can you make it? Can you make it happen? Can you come out of nothing? Or can you get your ass kicked and still be okay? Yep, you know it doesn. Can you make it happen? Can you come out of nothing, or can you get your ass kicked and still be okay? It doesn't matter how it is, but there's some real good lessons in life that you learn from sports.
Speaker 1:I'm glad you just said that, because I couldn't agree more. Man, football, hockey is, I'm sure, the same way. You're going to get your ass beat repeatedly. Can you get your ass back up and continue on? That's how you gain respect. I mean, you get your ass with an fc fc kids. You know. You asked how long I've been training quarterbacks. I got done playing football in 2015, started training quarterbacks since then and I've seen kids over the last 10 years. I talk exactly how I talk, you know, in a locker room. You know I'm motherfucking these kids calling them. I don't, I don't care to cause retards, faggots all the time time. I don't care, that's just how I talk.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you know, for the most part the South Tampa parents are like you know, I really don't like you using that language. I was like, well, there's other guys out here that you know the train kids that'll wipe your ass and you know and make sure you're, you know you're good, I'm is going to say a hell of a lot worse shit than what I'm saying. So I think that's a very valid point. It's like if you're, you're going to get your ass with. Get your ass back up and move on.
Speaker 4:You fail forward. Short-term memory, it's like all those things.
Speaker 1:Same thing with business right, you have a bad month, all right.
Speaker 4:Like how do you do pack up shop and retire? Or you make those small adjustments and you break things down into those like small wins again but, as an athlete. Right like if you're losing a game, like what do you do? You got to break it down, like the next 20 minutes you're out there again. Let's concentrate on those 20 and let's chip away.
Speaker 1:But I see a lot of kids, especially in the last couple years. It's like oh, so woe is me. You know you guys are picking on me. You know it's not going my way. Uh, this and that I'm done playing. It's like stop being such a bitch like, honestly, man like let's, let's go, let's go. You're, if you're gonna have a boss that's gonna be pressing you, you're gonna have somebody else that's gonna be like you know, it's our generation.
Speaker 3:The parents in our generation are us so we're raising those kids to be little bitches we're not, but well you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:People are millennials and that's one of the biggest things that some of these parents will tell me. Like I don't care if my kid plays a down, if he starts, if he plays it down, if he does anything, I want him around this group of boys here, and I got girls that are training too. I want them to be around what you're saying and how you're interacting with these kids, because they need to hear that, not Not from me, they need to hear it from somebody else. Right, you know what's?
Speaker 2:funny is like those are all lessons in life and just as a parent give this example, absolutely, I was at your house. Kids, we're kids, man, we're like 15, 16. You were probably eight, nine, I don't know, whatever that is, and Ain't no flies on us? Yeah, ain't no, flies on us. He's like you guys want to do a bonfire night? That's great, no boundaries. Go ahead and do it. But where are you going to get that firewood?
Speaker 1:from. I don't know, is there firewood?
Speaker 2:around here Like you pick up sticks. He goes oh man, you got to split wood. Tell you what? Grab a beer? Oh, teenager Grabbing a bush light, real cold, 90 degrees outside. Let's go cut some wood. You're going to have fun tonight, but you got to earn it. Yeah Right, trees or you know, wood doesn't split itself, so okay. So next time you have fun. You're going to remember you want to have fun. You got to go work for it fences at his dad's house. My dad said, hey, my first house I bought in 2006 before the crash happened Pay top dollar. What's up? You paid top dollar. I paid top dollar for a house that needed to be renovated. And my dad said, hey, I'm going to help you with a quick down payment, but you got to pay everything else. It's cool, and you got to put the work in. By the way, we have to do 14 acres of fence at our ranch before we even touch a piece of drywall. I said well, dad, he goes. You're not getting the down payment for free.
Speaker 1:I got to have a fence done.
Speaker 2:You want a house, I need a fence. Dude, I had to do 14 acres of fence by hand. That's a lot of fence.
Speaker 1:And it's a lot of fence.
Speaker 2:And it wasn't just like a fence, it was like hey, we have horses, you got to run electric wire at the top too, you know. So the horses don't take the fence.
Speaker 3:You earned that down payment. Oh yeah, 100%, that's what I'm saying. It wasn't?
Speaker 2:given to us. So going to sports. My daughter is 10 years old. She's playing competitive soccer. Dad, you know I want to make this team. I want to do this. I want to kick better. Did you kick the ball 500 times yet? Right, no, but that's why I went to practice three days a week. I don't give a shit. At practice. They're teaching you how to play the game. They're not teaching you how to touch the ball, right it's time on ball.
Speaker 4:It's hard to get the kids to go even to practice a hundred percent.
Speaker 2:You know and every single sport. You can't shoot a corner top, perfect shot unless you do it five, six thousand times right. You're not gonna put it on a rope, on a slant, you know right on time, unless you do it 5 000 times what that?
Speaker 1:that video you shot, which one? He came to my house and he's like all right, I'm gonna stand over here with his expensive, oh my god bro I'm gonna stand right here, I'm gonna have caleb run a glance route, throw it right at the camera.
Speaker 3:I was like yeah, I told him throw it right out of the camera. Bro, I shit my pants. Yeah, because you lost the camera.
Speaker 1:I was like all right, yeah, I told, him throw it right at the camera, bro.
Speaker 2:I shit my pants. Yeah, because you about lost the camera. You about lost your camera. No, bro, because I didn't realize he was going to Pull up that video real quick.
Speaker 3:I didn't realize he was actually going to like he put it on a rope. You want to hear a funny-ass story? Thank God.
Speaker 2:Thank God, caleb beach place. Right, we're at the beach, and I remember this. We were drinking all day too. It wasn't like a oh, let me just warm up and do this. Yeah, somebody was out there maybe your uncle or somebody was out way out in the water and you were like he was like throw it, I'm like, bro, if you don't hit him.
Speaker 1:I don't even remember that, yeah, and it was just a cocky throw.
Speaker 2:To be fair, it wasn't like you know and you just tossed it.
Speaker 1:It's probably 40 yards but but I mean that's to your point he couldn't move, he's in the water.
Speaker 2:Just bam, I was like dude.
Speaker 1:That's to the point, though. It's not like I walked out of bed doing that. No, you did that throw a million times, but you got to see this thing. It's pretty elite.
Speaker 2:Right there.
Speaker 4:Let me just play it one more time because I never played football.
Speaker 3:Bro. When I saw this shit, I was standing right behind that throw, if Caleb didn't catch it.
Speaker 1:I would have been pegged in the face bro.
Speaker 2:Yep, that's awesome Bro. That shit made me shit my pants, Black eye camera but that's your point.
Speaker 1:It's like you can't just do what the coaches are asking you.
Speaker 2:You got to do in the offseason, you got to do it on your off time Because you got guys that are you know, and girls that are training non-stop, you know, and the same thing is business, though, and I was about to say that right it's, it's we've been talking about.
Speaker 2:One thing is repetition, that's and I have clients I'm sorry, not clients. I have, uh, new agents that they're like, hey, how do we do this, how do we train this? And they just it starts with a fear. I don't want to do it. I have a fear. I can't call somebody out of the blue. I don't know how to call these people. I was like have you tried yet? Have you done it 500 times? Right, if you do it 500 times, you're gonna fail forward. You're gonna learn what, not to say how to say it better. You're gonna learn all these different reps. So by the 500th time, you're gonna pick up the phone like it's candy. You'll be calling two people at once, whoever answers. I'm getting it, by the way, this is so-and-so and it's just going to go so smoothly because you've had the reps. Don't be scared to pick up the phone, otherwise you're going to fail in business.
Speaker 2:The same way you're going to fail in sports.
Speaker 3:Well, I kind of want to add to that also is that you're going to get over the fear of rejection, because that is the main blocker for a lot of people that are cold calling and doing shit like that is the fear of rejection.
Speaker 3:Listen, as soon as those people hang up on you, they're not going to give a fuck who you are. They're not going to think about you again, so there's no reason why you should think about them. Otherwise, the fear of rejection is the biggest hurdle to climb, in my opinion but like I agree, man, what's the worst thing?
Speaker 2:somebody says fuck off, fuck off yeah let me, let me and then click go move on to the next one as a quarterback. Third down, fourth down, the game ends. If you don't make that throw, do you like I don't want to throw this, or you're like bitch, give me the ball.
Speaker 1:Give me the pill. There you go. Give me the pill my daughter.
Speaker 2:Same thing we're doing. Soccer kicks, end of the game. Penalty kicks right Five players. Who wants to kick it?
Speaker 3:I'm like you, better raise your fucking hand, understand that you don't really want to play soccer. Yep, and I don't care. She ain't getting dinner tonight.
Speaker 2:I flat out told her. I was like I love you, baby, because you know you got their girls too a little bit different. But I said it's still sports, right. And I said understand this, I love you. I know you want to play hard. If you don't raise your hand, you don't really want to play soccer. And I'm saying that because this situation is going to happen as you get older and it's going to continue as you play and it gets harder. And it's better to fail right now, at 10 years old, than to fail at high school when it really matters, or college when it really matters, like give yourself a couple examples. You know that's to go by.
Speaker 4:Yeah, sure time. And you know as a coach like that's what I'm who's getting in front of the line, who's going first?
Speaker 2:but even if you miss it, you, you've got to have that experience of that age Exactly. It's all repetition.
Speaker 1:So when you were starting your gym, were you cold calling people, or how did that whole thing work?
Speaker 4:So it's actually like kind of a unique, like funny, like outcome. But like to be honest with you, it was all building the network in college. So, like you know, when I first kept my lights on in my gym for that first year, it was everybody I met from college. Now I was working nowhere at my pay grade at that point, but that's what put the people in the gym and kept the lights on, kept the bills paid, set the foundation to then build on and was it like a word of mouth type deal to word of mouth?
Speaker 1:yeah, like you know.
Speaker 4:Yeah, just going around, just being me, like you know, just knowing a bunch of people you know like again being involved in everything I could possibly be involved in getting up in the morning, showing up, like right, these kids don't want to show up and it's crazy. You're already 50% ahead of it if you go to practice Just show up, just show up. And then how you practice is how you play, so it's like the same thing. Then, when you actually show up, are you efficient? Are you time managing yourself well?
Speaker 1:Are you delegating, right, like you know, all the things that you had to do as a player in college? It's such a big difference, man, like I remember, like you know, I'm going to, I'm going to work out, I'm going to show up. I showed up late today.
Speaker 3:I feel like I've earned the you got a little bit, I got better, yeah you showed up though.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, you got the veteran uh pass there, but you know like when I wasn't.
Speaker 1:You know I'm, I'm showing up 15 minutes early. If you're not 15 minutes early, you're late.
Speaker 3:I don't remember you ever showing up 15 minutes early.
Speaker 2:I was going to say that's good coaching.
Speaker 3:I'm trying to hold you accountable 100%. Come on millennial.
Speaker 2:But it goes back to our workouts. Man, our workouts are three days a week. He lives in Ballast Point, I live in Carolwood. He workouts that are three days a week. He lives in ballast point, I live in carrollwood. He's like yo, let's go to camp for 90 days. So camp south tampa. Yeah, we go to camp and we're, you know, busting our ass 50 and we're not going for like little classes, we're going to the hardest classes doing as hard as we can, as hard as we possibly can.
Speaker 4:He's pushing me the whole time. Yeah, but because you could just show up and just do it, or like what's your intention? It's all about intention at the end of the day, but it's also.
Speaker 2:It's also a business meeting yeah and it's also networking wrapped into it, because every time we go we see the same doctor that he used to train. You know, his clients are like publics the public's family. He's got a lot of clients that we bump into in those arenas. So why are we training at camp? It's not because camp's like the best gym out there, it's a there.
Speaker 2:It's because the people in south tampa that are part of clients and relationships are also working out there and we bump into them when we're doing what we need to do so they see you guys kind of doing some curls or kind of walking around and hands on the knees and kind of like right but 7 am class.
Speaker 2:I have to wake up with intention. I gotta wait for 5 30. Yeah, get ready, get my stuff going to drive 40 minutes with intention. I gotta wait for 5 30. Yeah, get ready, get my stuff going to drive 40 minutes just to go work out.
Speaker 4:I don't have to go there, but the intention is it's purposeful, right, well, and at the same time, like aren't those like the people you want to be around, right? Like you know what I mean. Like if you're thinking about, like you know, your coach, at some point you're picking, like your players, like you know, like that's where I want to be around, those are the people I relate to the best. I I'm not going to relate with everybody, yeah, but the people that are in there getting their ass in their ass and they're pushing themselves every damn day, and they don't have to be there.
Speaker 4:Those are the people I want to be surrounding myself around.
Speaker 2:And then we committed in 90 days, right, Next 90 days is like hey, one of my old trainers opened up a gym in South Tampa. He goes. I got aJ Moser from the Lightning, I got his FA.
Speaker 4:I've got a group of guys Another Germany football quarterback.
Speaker 1:Do those guys just hammer it in the weight room? Those Lightning guys?
Speaker 4:You know what? Hockey's very different now. It's very specific.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of periodization. It depends what time of the year you're in.
Speaker 4:It depends how old you are.
Speaker 1:That's everything, though I think the weightlifting to where, when we were all playing, it's as much as you can, completely changed, completely changed Because, honestly, if you're lifting incorrectly again every oh you'll get fucked up.
Speaker 4:You'll get fucked up and okay, if you're 22 years old guy in the league, you're trying to minimize injury. At that point you're trying to rehab. The program is completely different but the problem was is back when we were doing. We were doing static stretching before we even like, went on like now you're supposed to do dynamic, right, all the science was all different, you know, back when we played.
Speaker 1:So and everyone was training the same. I mean, look at like joe montana, he was smoking cigs and drinking fucking whiskey. Yeah.
Speaker 3:That was his stretch.
Speaker 1:That's my guy right there.
Speaker 4:Well, it's so sophisticated. Now, even think about it. Like you have a guy that's a first-line guy maybe, playing 22, 23 minutes a game. You got your fourth-line guy, he's playing maybe seven. Well, that playing seven minutes still has to play at that same level that that guy does at 22. So what is he doing after the game? He's got to go ride that bike, because if you're playing 14, 15 more minutes than that other guy every single game in an 82 game season, who's going to be in the most elite shape? So, like now, it's gone very specific. It kind of goes back to the same thing with our team. You know there's people on our team that need specific guidance, need specific help, and it's everything is customized and tailored to them so as it should, as it should, I feel like it should right when you say our team.
Speaker 2:You're talking about the lightning real estate, real estate, so what's funny with it is and that's why people kind of like even you you kind of raised an eyebrow when I first said that at the beginning of the podcast was a year, a year and a half, in a veteran team and I'm like, hey, I want you to be my manager and the way I saw it was not from a realtor perspective.
Speaker 2:old school real estate is that I'm looking at this from. I'm building a business right, even my marketing, my YouTube and Instagram, all that shit. I'm like I'm building, like we have a videographer editor full time, we have salaried positions. Because I told him I go, I'm building a media team that sells real estate yeah, not real estate and then I'm gonna half-ass no, I'm, I'm running that. What I need is somebody that can hold my team accountable, that can make sure they get the reps, that can build relationships, because we got to go out and get more business, to double our business right, we don't cold call people by way. Everything we do is inbound or it's relationships and that's where we grow, and we're growing at 30% a year roughly, and this year, now that he's been on, it's actually gone way more than that. So the idea is like man, you're the perfect person. It's not about do you know how to sign a contract, which he picked up pretty damn quickly, but it's in real estate.
Speaker 2:They don't teach people that there's a lot of realtors. We talked about it. There's 1% of realtors that are actually making money. Everybody else is out there holding a license 1% are doing 90% of the work.
Speaker 1:That's it, and so it's like, is that that's an accurate stat.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's an accurate stat.
Speaker 1:Well, I know that after COVID, everyone, all of Masha's friends, they all got their real estate license and they were all trying to sell real estate.
Speaker 3:Yeah, are they still doing?
Speaker 1:it Probably not, probably, not, probably. Ripping OnlyFans.
Speaker 2:I wish I could. It's a new way out. Oh shit, I wish I could. I got a bunion on my foot, those feet pics. But ultimately, man, it is about everything that you just said, Sports. But but ultimately, man, it is about everything that you just said, Sports. It just translates so easily the locker room banter that keeps us fresh.
Speaker 4:Man, you can even go into like time blocking Okay.
Speaker 4:When you're an entrepreneur and you're in business, right, like you don't necessarily have someone telling you what to do, right? So you got to wake up, like you know, before your day ends, you got to write your schedule out and time block yourself. Same thing as when we were playing like wake up, you eat, you got to do your, your pre-lift, you know you're stretching, routine, routine, right. You got to go to practice and after practice you got to go back, you got to eat. Then, after you eat, you got to get up, you got to practice again.
Speaker 4:You follow this itinerary as an athlete right so, as an entrepreneur, you have to do the same thing for yourself, because you don't really have that person there for you. So, like, when I get up, it's like get up, take a walk right, go get my workout in. I have, you know, my prospecting hours that I have to do. I have my client retention, I have my deals. Everything is time blocked.
Speaker 3:You're talking about self-accountability because you don't have a boss. You have to be your own boss.
Speaker 4:You have to tell yourself when to wake up right right and it's the same thing with the athletes, like if you want to go and you want to play at that highest level, you have to be self-motivating so disciplined on, yeah, what you're doing, and the workout part.
Speaker 2:I'm not to go back to workout again, but it's told me he's like dude, I've never not worked out For a little bit there. He's like I'm getting out of shape and he's talking about endurance and everything else. Like I can't function at a high level in real estate if I'm just sitting here at a computer. He's like we got to make something happen.
Speaker 4:It's so weird because when you're behind a computer and you're working like the Cypher, this difference yeah it's hard to decipher the difference.
Speaker 3:We're using that at a higher level than you think. Yeah.
Speaker 2:We got a lot of that stuff running for us too. But you can't not humanize a real estate deal.
Speaker 1:It can only do so much for you. I would imagine that it can only do so much for you.
Speaker 2:You still got to dig in and be that it's. You know you're talking to a fucking robot, yeah, yeah and it can only do so much, and there's a lot of glitches.
Speaker 4:There is a lot. There's a lot of glitches.
Speaker 2:But this guy goes into a deal negotiating the hell out of it, the socks off.
Speaker 4:I go for that throat every time which goes back to like sport mentality you, you talk to like a teacher on our team.
Speaker 2:Different mentality, um, I could imagine which is nothing wrong with a teacher, but it's a different mentality than a sports teacher, we're going to do one more right, yeah, we'll do one more.
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Speaker 1:Absolutely, Cheers man. Welcome back to a third segment. Here we're going to go through a little memory lane, yeah, a little memory lane.
Speaker 3:Hey, y'all got to move them a little bit closer though.
Speaker 1:How about now? How are we looking there better? Yep, yeah, we're going to go through a little quick little memory lane. Adam, like we've talked about, was best friends with my older brother for a long time and he came to a couple of South Carolina games and you can see him smirking from here.
Speaker 2:We were refilling drinks and I was like you know, man, we had some good times back then. He's like, well, let's talk about that. So here we go, let it ride. So business, right. So business right. Before real estate, I worked for my dad in the restaurant business that we had talked about already, but at the time you were playing the Gamecocks, I worked at Bank of America. I left the restaurant and I was like, let me try this corporate shit, went to Bank of America, worked my way up. I was like an assistant manager at a branch or something, and we're talking I was in my early mid-20s. I think you were probably.
Speaker 2:I don don't know what are you 1920 playing over there, yeah, roughly around there, yeah, yeah, so I was probably mid-20s and, um, your brother just moved back, so your brother played football harvard, right, uh, was like man I'm gonna go to, I think, delaware. It was to get his financial advisor license and all that guy. He's like I can build business faster and I'm gonna come on back to tampa, so I had bought that 2006 house. I was talking about.
Speaker 1:Is that timing?
Speaker 2:timing workout about right yeah, 2006 2008 when you're playing. So he's like all right, I'm gonna move in with you. All right, yeah, move in with me, help me finish renovating, and then you have a place to go. So I mean, it was like a frat house, basically, right I remember visiting, yeah, yeah so we had the house in wells, where we had the house, uh, at the beach, because that was one of his clients jaybel circuit.
Speaker 2:It was her house. So kind of long story short. He's like hey, my brother's playing for the gamecocks. Now he's starting. He's balling out like we gotta go see him. I was like dude, hell yeah, this is like a, this is like a frat house like we have no responsibilities.
Speaker 2:But Bank of America and I think he was with Merrill Lynch got out at 5 o'clock Monday through Friday. So what did our day look like, man Friday? We tried to get out by 4, if we can get out early, but we'd already had our bags packed. I had a car Toyota we loaded up. He'd meet me at home, we'd load it up, we'd start driving. Tampa to savannah is about six hours, so if we leave by five or six, we're there by 11 to 12 midnight and there was an awesome english pub right in savannah that we'd go balls hard to like 2 am they close early, which we're used to closing at three in tampa.
Speaker 4:So we were like a little bit let down probably a good thing, though that hour was was a lot man.
Speaker 3:Shout out the restaurant, though.
Speaker 2:Probably. I don't even remember it was a British bar dude. This is years ago.
Speaker 1:Good luck. If it's open Long, long time, good luck if it's still open.
Speaker 2:but it was a great spot that we'd always go to because it was a bar, not a restaurant. We'd go crazy and then we'd go just a little bit outside the city and sleep on our car on the side of the road.
Speaker 4:Holy shit.
Speaker 2:But it was great weather because we're talking fall ball Right, and I mean sunroof down. Was it an SUV? No, it was a car Toyota.
Speaker 4:Like a Corolla.
Speaker 2:It was when the Scions no homo, no homo. When the Scion came out, I got a steal on it.
Speaker 4:No, ditty, no, ditty.
Speaker 2:I traded in for a Grand Cherokee later.
Speaker 4:Not that that's any better.
Speaker 2:But can we go with this story, man, we're not worried about the car here, but we were on the side of the road half the time, or we were at a hotel, and then it was only like an hour and a half, I think, to Columbia. So wake up. We were there by wake up about seven. Five hours sleep, four or five hours sleep. Make it there by seven, eight, because tailgating starts. You can't drink in the stadium. You can now, you can now. Yeah, all right. Well, you couldn't back then.
Speaker 2:No, you could not so it was like tailgating Where's the family ahead of time, which is fantastic. So we were like, hey, where you at? We're checking in the hotel. Funny thing is, is that you ever watch Varsity Blues? Nope, you ever watch Varsity Blues.
Speaker 4:I'm a big TV guy, I got stuff for this. I haven't either.
Speaker 2:Maybe that goes back with the size. Maybe that's what you do with the size, so Varsity Blues was essentially a podunk podunk, uh poe dunk, like southern football quarterback school, whatever that it was. Just like everybody knew everybody. Columbia was exactly that right. Yeah, this guy playing ball was like the superstar of superstars as far as columbia goes. And when we go there we had to actually sign in to like the hotel book, check in as a, an alias, so your brother would always sign in as Peter Pan.
Speaker 3:But the funny.
Speaker 2:Thing is, he would do Peter Pan because we're Spanish, so it was always like I'm Peter Pan and here we go. So one day we're getting ready to go to your game and we would go as many games. I mean, I was there when we beat Bama. I was there we beat Tebow. I was there when we beat Bama, I was there when we beat Tebow. Like those are big games, bro. Yeah, and it was electric dude. When you come out, was it Metallica Sandman?
Speaker 1:No, it was Sandstorm, sandstorm. There you go, I'm sorry. It doesn't get better than that.
Speaker 2:Everybody just and it just goes. But we were there checking in Some guy delivering a pizza, random guy delivering a pizza. He's like are you Steven? And to Gary, no, man, and we're just kind of playing it cool. He's like no, no, no, no, you're definitely related, you're Garcia. He's like yeah, that's my brother. He's like holy shit, holy shit, holy shit. And I was like what, what's going on here? Right guy calls his boss, his manager. He's like hey, I'm delivering pizza. I've got Gary's brother here, where you guys going. He's like we're gonna go to five point. You know five points, yeah, to meet. He's like holy shit, can I drive them? The manager was like yeah, man, drop your load.
Speaker 3:So he like dropped it and then which one are you? What load are you talking?
Speaker 2:about. Well, the pizza, the pizza. God damn man, you're taking us in another direction. Drop your load because you're so excited. Because you're so excited, what the fuck? Yeah, drop your load with the Scion guy.
Speaker 3:Might as well drive a Subaru bro.
Speaker 2:That's a whole other level.
Speaker 2:They identify as a Subaru so so basically he's like dude, let's go. So he drops the pizza. He completely his boss is like yeah, yeah, take him. I mean I was like what is all this like? I was literally like what is all this? That same night after the game we come back because you were like hey, meet us at five point. We go to the bar. What's the bar? Village idiot. Probably you're like, we're're like we're shutting it down, we're shutting it down. I was like all right, we got to go back, we got to change. We smell like dog shit from the game and we've been drinking and we just got to refresh. So we went back to the hotel. At that time I say 50-something or not even a player, just a fan. We're sitting there. She's having wine with her friend. She's like oh my God, to your brother, again we have Gamecocks on. She's like you're a Garcia.
Speaker 3:He's like yeah, Bro, does your brother look like you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, they all look somewhat the same.
Speaker 1:There's not many us-looking people in Columbia, south Carolina, at that time.
Speaker 2:And so he's like do you think he would sign my brawl?
Speaker 3:No way Bro. What's going on in Columbia dog, and I'm just like what is this?
Speaker 2:But that's why I'm like did you ever watch that movie? Because it's just like another world. It was. We go to that bar Five Point, which, by the way, I got to ask this sure that locals didn't like football players in five points, is that right, uh?
Speaker 1:village idiot did. I don't know they did. I don't know if any other, but I remember it was weird.
Speaker 2:Like I was. Like I thought it was like hell, yeah, we're the football team, but like locals were like kind of 50, 50 on it, like some people, yeah, I'd say 50, 50, yeah, yeah, that's right it's just the capital of the state, so you know you have clemson police officers, okay, I got arrested by a clemson police officer.
Speaker 1:What year are we talking about here? This had to be 2009,. 2008, 2009 probably.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh, so you weren't even old enough to drink.
Speaker 2:Allegedly, I don't know. Let me ask you something. In college, yeah.
Speaker 3:How about in high school?
Speaker 2:In high school For the red guy who doesn't go to these bars, right. So we go to the bar and he's behind the bar, then he's behind the DJ booth with a big old horn yelling shit out and it's all closed down just for anybody that we want to let in, or the team. I say we like, I'm part of it because I felt like we were I mean you were.
Speaker 1:I felt like we were. You were.
Speaker 2:And next thing, you know, end of the bar. It's like hair of the moose. Remember that Vaguely. I think it was hair of the moose, it was all the bar mats.
Speaker 1:Oh no, Harry Buffalo.
Speaker 2:Harry Buffalo. It was close. It was a rough night. All the bar mats that basically get the bar mat and dump them all in the the pitcher and they're like line up shots, let's go are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 3:and? Everybody's just like yo and they're stepping on that shit. No, no, no, no. On top of the bar, on top of the bar but, it's like a mix of whatever and probably a little sweat.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all sorts of that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's why I tell us to this day that's where I developed, other than my grandmother on my mom's side Fucking roach blood. That's where roach blood comes from. I haven't gotten sick since then.
Speaker 2:I must have a little bit of everything.
Speaker 1:That's pretty disgusting man, it was absolutely rotten. It's called the hairy buffalo. You take the bar mats and you dump it into that and pour shots in it.
Speaker 2:So I'm going to take it. I'm going to take a step back even further, though. Till this day, sec games were my absolute favorite. We played Georgia. I say we again, like I was a fan right. So we played Georgia. They're all chanting the whole time, but the reason we left Savannah so early to get to the game was because foxy would throw the best, yeah, the best pre-game. You know, food spread and uh, I think at one point it wasn't like a helicopter probably no.
Speaker 1:Foxy was the name of a very affluent charleston family.
Speaker 3:Yeah, foxworth was his name oh, okay, yeah, but call him foxy.
Speaker 2:But the setup there man was fantastic dude, like if you've never been Charleston family. Yeah, foxworth was his name. Oh, okay, yeah, call him Foxy. The setup there man was fantastic dude. Like if you've never been to SEC games.
Speaker 4:It's like sundresses you got to think about it, ut guy, like we had no football.
Speaker 2:No doubt Makes me jealous.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. Yeah.
Speaker 2:We didn't have that. But, coming from Florida, right, we're not south, we're like a melting pot, right, right, when you go south, south Columbia, I mean, their dorm was a cotton gin, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah, so it was an old cotton gin, yep.
Speaker 1:And there's Olympia.
Speaker 2:Mills Shout out hey, there's the old, like caboose train, whatever, as you're tailgating right. And then you got this family that's generational, yeah, coming in here throwing this like any kind of southern food. You want mac and like three different kind of mac and cheese, like everything just laid out there for you and you're like what did I roll into? And then you got all the girls you could think of, but like sundresses. And then you got the guys that are doing their southern thing, whatever that looks like. I didn't pay attention.
Speaker 1:With the bow ties and shit, but my point is, though it was an atmosphere.
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely it was set up.
Speaker 3:It was just like so since you were there, I got to ask every time this guy walked into the room at the bar or at any kind of party like that up in Columbiaumbia. How was it were? They were all the bitches all over this guy he never wants to talk about it.
Speaker 2:He never wants to talk about it because, man, I'm married. I'm married to russia yeah, but we're talking about the stab of it. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not, so so here's what I'll say.
Speaker 3:Like would they literally just walk up and just be like hey, stevens, boom.
Speaker 2:Here's what I'm saying all this, i'm'm giving you way back in the bleachers. Secondary vision of what went on. Yeah, if that helps. This is byproduct of just being around and a friend, an extension of what that happens Quarterback in a podunk. Not that Columbia is podunk, but it's a smaller city, absolutely, with that Southern vibe and that atmosphere. Man, I don't know that there's a better atmosphere than that.
Speaker 3:I don't think it was fantastic and for me really tiptoed around my question, didn't you Sure did yeah.
Speaker 4:He was helping them out. He had a lot of left real quick.
Speaker 2:He had a lot of 50 plus year old women wanting to sign brawls.
Speaker 3:What a what a time. What about the 20-year-old ones? I don't know.
Speaker 2:It was a blur man. I wasn't signing brawls for them. No, it's controversial.
Speaker 1:It's provocative. It's what the people want Allegedly yeah, but yeah. I mean they didn't have. You know we were talking about the Bucs earlier. I mean Columbia. There is no professional team.
Speaker 3:In South Carolina.
Speaker 1:Gamecocks. That is their professional team.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but you have the Panthers right down the street.
Speaker 1:In Charlotte. That's an hour and a half away.
Speaker 3:Well, he was driving seven and a half hours.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that was for a reason. Yeah, yeah, because when you were, there they live and die, though right, it was definitely. That's the difference right. They have a logo it just means more Right, right it was definitely a Clemson, like it was Columbia or Clemson, no doubt, because when we were there it was like, well, what is it? And a little bit I mean Georgia, that Georgia game that we went to. They brought the crowd. Yeah, it was like whoo.
Speaker 1:But I mean all those SEC teams. They you know before the expansion and you know where they Texas and Missouri and A&M. But before then it was like we have a set schedule, we know we're going to play Florida, we know we're going to play Georgia. Now you don't know who the hell you're playing anymore. It's completely changed. But yeah, those are some interesting times.
Speaker 2:That was a good angle.
Speaker 3:But one of those, and he was reliving it the entire time you were talking.
Speaker 1:I was like yo, this motherfucker, I'm just like please don't talk too much, please, man, my wife watches this shit.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean listen, she knew who you were.
Speaker 1:She Googled me before our first date.
Speaker 2:That's what makes you to the guy she married.
Speaker 1:A hundred percent, yeah what. I was wondering if you were going to tell the story when my brother got drawn on and ran home Drawn on yeah. Sharpied, he got sharpied. Yeah, now he passed out and he wasn't too happy. He was not happy. He passed out on our couch in our dorm room and I think he sprinted home, yeah, sprinted to the hotel, or all that it was my son's second or third birthday, Said, fuck it, I'm out of here, and sent me some scathing texts about like that's such fucking bullshit.
Speaker 1:I can't believe you would do that. And I was like dude, you're not going to show up to your nephew's birthday.
Speaker 2:It was pretty normal growing up. If you fall asleep in this group again locker room, it was pretty normal growing up. If you fall asleep in this group again locker room you're getting a dig on your face at some point, maybe a marker and maybe real.
Speaker 1:It depends, it's called a.
Speaker 2:Roman helmet. That's like that look.
Speaker 4:A Roman helmet.
Speaker 3:You're getting that thing out there. But I mean when I was going to high school. Don't pass out with your shoes on.
Speaker 1:That's what it was.
Speaker 3:It's a fair game was going to high school is don't pass out with your shoes on. That's what it was fair game. But if you take your, shoes off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're, you are out of it. Shoes were okay, shoes were on, so we explained that to him where his shoes on they were, and he did not like it he ran home.
Speaker 4:Yes, right then.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's the rule I'm assuming he was your older brother, right?
Speaker 1:yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, not my oldest brother. My oldest brother would have taken his shoes off probably.
Speaker 2:Brian, he was more controlled, he was.
Speaker 1:Sometimes, yeah. Sometimes. But man, those like that brings you back. Man Like I'm so glad that you guys came on here and getting to kind of relive some of those stories. Man Like God, yeah, that was some crazy shit, yeah. But I just don't think that happens in college anymore it's got the amount of?
Speaker 1:I don't think so no the amount of access to phones and social media. I mean, I just don't think I mean phil, touch on this with with hockey guys. I mean we talked earlier hockey guys, they similar type operation, yeah yeah, I mean it's again.
Speaker 4:It's different, though, between college and professional. Well, you know right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're right there's like a different gap, but yeah, like how? Yeah, college. Again, it's different, though, between college and professional.
Speaker 4:Well, obviously, yeah right, there's like a different gap. But yeah, college it still goes on behind the scenes. I don't know if we'll talk about it or not, but I agree with you, like with phones, how they come down now on a disciplinary level, how careful you have to be.
Speaker 4:What you say you have to be what you do. We talk about the media. You say the wrong thing, you know, or you say the right thing and it turns to the wrong thing. It just happened, yeah, so it's just like nowadays. You just feel like you. Yeah, you can't really be your authentic self anymore, because there's always going to be someone trying to take that from you. A hundred percent.
Speaker 3:You can't live free. You know in that way, 100% you can't live free. You know. That's the difference. In that way, I mean you can, if you adapt a mindset of I don't give a fuck what anybody thinks.
Speaker 1:And you just, but I don't think you can.
Speaker 3:If you're playing college football, you're, you know, obviously these guys are going to pay a lot of money. I'm not talking about that, I just mean in general At the pro level At the pro level.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, pro level at the pro level, you, you can't, you can't, because that's actually going back now, like into like the depth of like when they're drafting you. I mean they look at you at everything, at every angle possible. Is this guy going to be a leader?
Speaker 1:it's going to be trouble off the field, like you have to be conscious of what they're doing that in college now too, because college guys are getting paid more, because it's the college and they are in the n Than their sign-on bonus.
Speaker 3:It's the feeder now.
Speaker 4:So like yeah. No, you have to watch what you do, so they're living in a media prison, basically Correct.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and you've seen so many talented guys, you know, just not think that way and it winds up translating on the field.
Speaker 2:I don't mean to switch gears, but you know what's even wilder? It's soccer. I didn't know, I didn't grow up playing soccer. But there's a kid it's an older brother of one of the girls on my daughter's soccer team. If you don't make it to professional soccer by like 15 or 16, you're not going to, you're playing US ball. He got picked up at 15 years old turning 16, to go to Greece with a sign-on contract and I'm like he's got to leave his family from here, tampa, go to Greece now to play for a Greece team to hopefully make it, but like sign-on bonus and like go Now you're living in Greece.
Speaker 3:Is that nuts? Well, what happens in soccer in Europe? Those kids are placed in there. At like 12 years old they go to an academy. They leave their families Way younger than 12 years old yeah, some of them way younger than 12 years old In.
Speaker 4:Europe. The agents are signing them at that age.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Is that hockey as well?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:They're signing them at like 12, 13 years old.
Speaker 3:Because they want to develop them.
Speaker 4:Let's be an agent for a moment right, 13 years old, because they wanted to develop them. Let's be an agent for a moment right, like how do you make your money right, getting guys big deals. So if I sign all the guys at a young age that have potential, to make it, there's a percentage that will. The more darts I throw at the dartboard, the more opportunity I have to get these guys contracts. So yeah, no, they went in the pool that deep, so again these kids don't know, they don't know, they don't know.
Speaker 3:And, to your point though, a 70-year-old just got signed to Barcelona about six months ago. His name's Jamil and, bro, this guy is fucking crushing it, but he was in academy. They call it academy. We're really at school right.
Speaker 4:Right right, right right.
Speaker 3:Where they hyper-focus on soccer and they develop these players.
Speaker 4:It's IMG. Img is the same way, yeah. So like yeah, these guys have to be prepared so much earlier. Now, soccer is the most popular sport in the world.
Speaker 3:For a reason, for a fucking reason, because these kids idolize soccer players. Man. Ronaldo's making $226 million a year in Al Nassar.
Speaker 1:No, he's not. Yes, he is. I'm going to read you exactly. My buddy just sent me this today.
Speaker 3:Okay, breaking news here on Sports and Suits with Stephen Garcia.
Speaker 1:No, it's not breaking news. The Buffalo back.
Speaker 2:It's well known how much he made.
Speaker 3:Oh, wait a second. What are we listening to? Sorry, that wasn't the article. We just bombed Iran and we're listening to this.
Speaker 2:It was actually Trump just dropped.
Speaker 1:Ronaldo signed with Al Nassir Nassar $244.23 million per year. That's right. 15% ownership of Al Nassir. So, more $110K per goal, $55k per assist, $11 million per year on title, $5.5 million on golden boot, 16 full-time employees, $5.5 million in private jet credits, $82.4 million in guaranteed sponsorships $8.9 million in Asian Champ League. Yeah, it's a two-year contract.
Speaker 2:And he's like 39 years old Two years and he's like 39 years old. Two years and he's like 39 years old At the end of his career.
Speaker 3:At the end of his career.
Speaker 1:It's amazing how much money is in sports. It truly is so. Like you know and we've had guys here that you know play college football and went through the NIL situation and even prior to the NIL, I was prior to the NIL- which one Desmond or Lex.
Speaker 1:All of them, lex, all those guys, and it's like it's such a double-edged sword. You want to tell, and I tell these kids, it's like you have this much time in your life to make as much money as you can playing this sport because eventually you're going to have to go get a suit on Right, why not? Who the hell am I? Who the hell is a fan? Who the hell is a coach? To tell a kid you can't make this decision, don't take it, you're out of your fucking mind.
Speaker 1:You're going to offer me $4 million to leave my university to go to a different university. You're going Bye-bye.
Speaker 4:So, I got a question for you You're one injury away, also too, from missing out on that, exactly so some people always look at it like, oh, you got to go education first. Like but yeah, but if you're playing college sport and you have one injury, it's all out the window from there it's gone.
Speaker 3:So why have college sports? Why have college nfl or not college nfl? College football? Why not just create a minor league football league?
Speaker 1:who knows, I don't have the answer for that.
Speaker 3:I mean mean well, I mean, it's a question that I think people need to ask.
Speaker 4:Well, yeah, I mean it's not a bad idea and I know deals are going for $8 million a year.
Speaker 3:Like what the fuck Is there a?
Speaker 1:minor league for the hockey. Yeah, there is, there's levels, there's two levels right.
Speaker 4:Like you got the East Coast Hockey League, the American Hockey League. Do 30 grand Well they're getting money. They're getting paid money.
Speaker 3:It's Canadian football.
Speaker 4:But then also at the same time. You know, that was interesting. You got to think about it though, when you're about to make that jump from the minors to the pros, I mean like they're making that money but they still have to pay for their own coaches. In the summer, they still have to eat at the highest level.
Speaker 1:There's really no money in it.
Speaker 4:You in it, you're chasing a dream, nhl, nhl, yeah, right, and then like but now, with the european leagues we were talking about, it is actually a great outlet now for athletes, where you can go to switzerland and you can make 500 to a million dollars a year and you can live in switzerland.
Speaker 4:They're going to take care of your, your living, they're going to get a cell phone they're going to give you a car, but then your kids are going to get, you know, really good education. So there are other routes now that like that can you play both?
Speaker 4:leagues. So you're going to look at if you go to the swiss league. There's really two reasons you're going there. You're going there to and this will probably be for most sports you haven't developed yet enough, right? So you need that pro experience to build that foundation to then move on to the next thing. Or, if you can't stay in the league anymore, right, am I going to go fight in the American Hockey League for $100,000? Or do I go over in Europe and be the import player over there and make $500,000 to a million, because you got to think about it like an NHL guy here is going to be a top player in that league, right, you might as well get paid. You know what I mean and live in Switzerland. Come on, germany. Germany leagues play just as well. You can make more money in Europe than trying to put your weight on the minors. You know my question.
Speaker 3:Going to baseball baseball is so successful in its minor league system and kids don't have to go to fucking college.
Speaker 2:There's like nine levels Baseball is more than you think, have to go to fucking college. There's like nine levels. And yeah, there's like nine levels. The best is when you talk to someone.
Speaker 3:They're like yeah, I play for the yankees, and they're like playing rookie ball no, it's like you know, they're playing for the tampa yankees dude, they know that there's like nine level minor leagues of baseball is well, I'm saying the nfl needs to come up with some kind of construct to eliminate the entire ncaa and facilitate an entire learning academy, kind of like soccer in Europe does. Well, isn't that the?
Speaker 4:CFL, though now the CFL.
Speaker 3:Come on, bro, nobody wants to freeze their ass off in Canada.
Speaker 4:But if you're a player that comes out of college and you don't have a deal and you want to continue to play like if you don't make, a Well, now it's the USFL.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's the USFL Okay.
Speaker 4:Because like right, but that was kind of at one point wasn't that like kind of your option to some extent?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I was in the CFL for two years and How'd you do? It was a fucking.
Speaker 2:Who am I talking?
Speaker 1:to.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I was like what the hell is this?
Speaker 1:Yeah, but like wasn't to get back From the CFL, wasn't the?
Speaker 3:goal to maybe come back here and play? Oh, absolutely. But I was sitting behind the Tom Brady of the fucking CFL. Right, right, right. I wasn't playing a fucking snap, right, right. Who was the Tom Brady?
Speaker 1:of the CFL Fuck Anthony Calvillo. Straight off the boat from fucking Mexico.
Speaker 4:Really Did he make?
Speaker 1:He was making $2 million a year in Canada, I think, getting taxed Canadian taxes, which I'm sure you know are not.
Speaker 4:Well, yeah, I mean there's a lot of argument like that in hockey. Right now they're really coming after us, since we've been in so many championships. Now, if you go to Tampa, the contracts are worth more.
Speaker 2:You think we should top these off and go for a quick round four yeah, yes, Absolutely.
Speaker 1:We're going to take a quick little break. We'll do a quick little round four after we top these some bitches off like comment, subscribe, smash all the shit.
Speaker 3:The notification button man, it's not that hard, you've done it's who gives a shit.
Speaker 1:Don't worry about the nectar, fucking coupon code garcia five, but check out tampa, florida living and buy some real estate, and also new york new york pizza New York.
Speaker 3:New York pizza.
Speaker 1:Yep. Thank you, Sean. We'll be right back Speaking of giving shit we're back.
Speaker 1:Hey, we are back A couple of drinks in. Yeah, just a little bit, just a wee bit, but anyways, me and Adam were talking in the break room and Sean, you might want to hear this thing, go ahead. And Sean, you might want to hear this thing, go ahead and like, if we, if you're not opposed to saying it, like, yeah, what? How do you, how do you grow a social media following? How do you kind of attract existing, how do you retain existing clients? How do you exist or how do you, you know, get new people to sort of sign on type deal?
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So that was loose, Very loose yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm a general loose kind of guy.
Speaker 2:I think if you're asking just so I can answer it right, and if we're talking to the people that are watching, it's kind of like hey, you're a sports guy, you're a regular dude.
Speaker 2:You don't have a background in social media marketing. You don't have a background in digital marketing. You don't have camera work or any of this other shit that a lot of people come from that are, like you said, actually younger generation that grew up with coding in college, right, I didn't have any of that. So how do you do it? Is that what you're asking? That's exactly what I'm asking. All right, fair enough.
Speaker 3:So how do you grow an Instagram page from zero to fifty eight thousand in one year?
Speaker 2:That's, that's fair. So we get what you're saying.
Speaker 1:It's like you know you wouldn't have some sort of In a YouTube page from zero to 26,000 in one year, but you wouldn't have some sort of direction to what you're saying and I want this to be you know Informational On camera, just so.
Speaker 3:I can rewatch this thing and kind of relearn, because again-. And by him saying re-watching means me watching it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but no, honestly like realistically because, I'm I'm new to this kind of shit. Like you know, we got the tailgate talks thing and you know that's that's going well. But, like I told you, my biggest thing is and what the advertisers want they just want eyeballs on screen. They want to hear, like you know. They want to know, like, hey, they want views who is nectar getting in front of, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 2:So that's kind of what. So here's what I would say man is in this world we had talked about it before in this world, right now, current day you're silly If you're not online, if you're not doing podcasts like this, if you're not on YouTube or Instagram or wherever the, the different areas are that are getting the, the views. You're silly with marketing, because old school marketing absolutely still works. That's the, the, the bloodline, the roach blood of it. All right is you got to understand how to build relationships, how to talk to people and how to put the reps in correct. If you can't, it doesn't matter who calls you, because you don't know what to do with it. But let's say that you've put in those reps and you've done all those things. How do you now get the word out? And that's social media I think it.
Speaker 4:No, it is. I mean me personally. I watch probably social media more than I do tv I think, I think that's, I think that's a lot of people, though what's actually interesting? Right you sit in bed you sit on the couch and you're that's right, like, yeah, like that's what I do.
Speaker 2:I don't even really like you.
Speaker 4:Probably don't have your pants on when you're doing it, probably not, I'm not relaxing, then you know what I mean Exactly Because you're relaxed scrolling, yeah, sometimes swiping left, sometimes I'm doing it and I don't even know it. So what's interesting?
Speaker 2:is analytics on my YouTube channel for real estate. Right now, 62% of all views are coming from TV on YouTube. What does that mean? That means that you can't put out shitty content anymore, because if you ever put shitty content and then you blow it up to a 60 inch, it looks like shit, looks like shittier shit right, so think about that. If it looks like shit, smells like shit it's shit, it's probably shit.
Speaker 2:And if your audio sounds like shit, right, like if I take this away and I'm like, hey guys, if I'm taking the audio away, that's going to be hard to watch for 30 minutes. Yeah, because they're watching on TV. They don't want to watch anymore for 30 seconds, at least not on YouTube.
Speaker 4:Long form, right. So you got long form, short form. So it's the quality, is what you're talking?
Speaker 2:about Video, audio. I was just talking to you about there, about your audience and your audience. You have to understand what they want to watch. You got to deliver it in a very raw way too, like it's amazing that you can give this podcast like this and just deliver it from the heart Real situations, real experience. People you know, they appreciate that in this world that everything's AI nowadays yeah, you know. So, going into YouTube, for example, it's long form content, it's it's a blend of entertainment and education. So you got to ride that fine line. You got to be able to educate somebody on whatever topic it is, while also being you Entertainment, like that.
Speaker 1:That's that's kind of what we're saying. It's just the entertainment factor. Yeah, kind of what I was and what we were talking about. It's just the entertainment factor. Do people want to sit here and watch what the fuck we're talking about?
Speaker 4:Yeah. But it's also value too right Resource being a resource giving value, but I also think this is valuable information. Right right, it's real talk.
Speaker 1:We're not sitting here just drinking, talking about fucking bullshit, right. We're not I mean there's obviously you know pieces of bullshit, let me grab one of those. You want one? Yeah, please. So then I got to ask this question.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so quality one. That's what you're going to see on.
Speaker 2:TV Part of the puzzle.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So you solve the quality issue you quality issue, you solve the audio issue? Yep, well then does that mean that every single episode that a podcast films needs to be scripted. So let's talk. Can we talk youtube for a moment?
Speaker 3:yeah, it's easier to focus in a one, and I want youtube. I just want to talk about let's talk just youtube because wait, hold on.
Speaker 4:So, like, youtube has going to have a different like playbook, yeah, instagram, yeah, right. That's why I'm saying let's focus on one. Yeah, let's focus on YouTube, because I'd be jumping around if not yeah, yeah, just.
Speaker 2:YouTube. I'm going to pretend I'm coaching you right now okay, please do. All right, I'm Spurrier, I need my notepad.
Speaker 1:No no no, don.
Speaker 2:So all right. Youtube, all right. We've already gotten the audio. We talked about the video. Let's say you have it zoomed in for a 60-inch and you're looking pretty. Today, the first thing that matters is understanding what the algorithm wants, not what your audience wants. Your audience is one part of the algorithm. How does YouTube even work? Put it this way what timestamp, how long of a video would you put on YouTube if you could choose what is like a perfect spot?
Speaker 3:An hour and 15 minutes.
Speaker 2:Why did you choose that?
Speaker 3:Because that's three segments after editing, are you?
Speaker 2:thinking podcast, podcast, long form Okay. But if you're thinking video, well that is a video. If you did a video podcast, if you're doing a podcast, you're just listening to it, because YouTube actually has two secondary versions, so you can upload it as a podcast which has no video, or you can upload it as a video.
Speaker 3:We upload both one audio only, because it used to be google, uh, and then google said hey, no longer. Now it's going to be a podcast audio only on youtube, as well as youtube, which allows you to click a playlist that is called podcast, yep, and then, once you check that, you can upload your videos on there and it is described as a podcast to answer your question.
Speaker 1:I think it would be a lot less than an hour and 15 minutes so if you're scrolling through, through videos, I think the attention span of people is the attention span. Masha's dad says it's a. The attention span is a. I forgot what he called the Russian a small fish. Yeah, I forgot what he. It was so damn funny. No it was something in Russian, but yeah, the attention span of humanity is very, very small.
Speaker 2:Right, and most people we talked about fears way earlier. It's like fear to do something right. They're like I don't know. I'm just going to get this point across and be done. Yeah, I'm not going to like lay it out for them. So eight minutes, Eight minutes is a very important number on YouTube. The reason is is because YouTube makes money on running ads, Right? Zen New York pizza.
Speaker 1:Right N ads right zin new york pizza right, nectar, nectar oh shit.
Speaker 4:Hey, edit that. No zin versus nicotine, but the berry is good all right.
Speaker 2:So so they make money on ads. If it's under eight minutes they can only put two ads. If they're over three minutes, it tells you that. It says if you're over eight minutes it can place a mid-roll ad. So they're like yeah, we could put three ads, not two. If you go more than that, they could put four or five ads, right. So let me ask you this we're gonna play a scenario here if your video is five minutes long and, by the way, there's a weird number there that if you deliver all the goods, you're gonna have about a 30% to 40% retention watch time so if you're doing a five minute video in length, you're going to have somebody watch maybe two, two and a half minutes, right? If I put a 10 minute video right, I'm going to have a four minute five minute watch time rough number. So whose video? If they're apples to apples, are they gonna push more to an audience? Mine, because my entire watch time is the length of your video.
Speaker 2:So it tells you push a longer video on long form content, if you can, understanding that it can't be fluff. You have to fill it with good content. So it has to be planned it has to be executed. But if I'm competing with you sports, if I'm competing with you, I've got to be better than you, right?
Speaker 4:and I've got to deliver. And it's the preparation too, because at all times, like we talk on the phone, oh I'm writing another script, like the guy's just writing script after script after script script, but I'm doing research before the scripts.
Speaker 2:Right, well, right, and I'm delivering it.
Speaker 1:You can't write the script without the research, so would you say it'd be beneficial for me to have a script coming in, having another guest coming in.
Speaker 2:I think, as you grow, understanding your audience who likes this, by the way is comment guys, let them know what you want to hear, let them know what you want to see and let them know what's important to you, because he's doing this and spending the time for you guys. So it makes sense to understand that, and once you understand that, you can give them more of it.
Speaker 3:So, Adam, let me ask you a question. Um, so we've been releasing around one hour episodes. Would it make more sense to release and I know we film in 25 minute segments but we could film in 15 minute segments and maybe release those segments for one podcast episode over a period of five days? So let's say three segments, 15 minutes each, and we'll release the first one Monday, the next one Wednesday, the next one Friday. Would that make more sense? And calling that episode part one, part two, part?
Speaker 1:three. But isn't that what Raul Gata was saying when he was saying that you got to feed the algorithm?
Speaker 3:Yeah, but he was talking about Instagram. We're talking about YouTube and he is successful on YouTube.
Speaker 2:So I'm a big believer that you're going to enter, and Raul Gata hasn't tagged us in anything or accepted any collapse. Well, he accepted one. I'm a big believer that you're going to enter into a certain audience and you're going to play by the rules of the algorithm right of YouTube. So, like I go by keywords because I don't know if you know this, but YouTube, you mentioned Google earlier. Google owns YouTube. Youtube is the second largest search engine, YouTube is. Look it up, holy shit.
Speaker 3:No, I believe you. I believe you, it is the second largest search engine.
Speaker 2:It's not Instagram where you're scrolling and random people are putting shit up Right, it's a search engine People. That's why they have a keyword so that people type it in. Yeah, so like when I'm like putting my real estate and I'm talking Keywords. Oh okay, all right, this is SEO stuff. Like not to get nerdy and, by the way, I don't have a background in this I leaned into it and I learned it and I put the reps in to understand it Put the reps in.
Speaker 2:But it's like living in Tampa Florida, moving to Tampa Florida, Tampa Florida neighborhoods. Those are people that want to buy houses and want to understand the area, to move here, understand where to live. So my thought is like I'm gonna lean in, I'm gonna put more reps into this, I'm gonna put more content into this one keyword real quick.
Speaker 3:So we know you're talking about when you say keywords into the description, or are you talking about?
Speaker 2:no, so just x out of the tag x out of that, but everything actually yeah but, but. But it's more so of like I just want to learn. Yeah, it's more so of like, if you just type that into YouTube from like a user perspective, people are typing in when do you find the keywords that are trending then In your brain, oh I'm sorry, no, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:I thought you meant what people are typing. So there's two extensions TubeBuddy, and then vidIQ is the other popular one. I use TubeBuddy that allows you to show you how many searches per month. What's your competition? Like SEO, the way it works is that there's going to be 10,000 people.
Speaker 4:This one.
Speaker 2:If there's 10,000 people typing in how to transition from sports to business, by the way, if there's which, by the way?
Speaker 1:there's a ton of them, right. There's not many people that fucking go on to play in the NHL or Switzerland or NFL or Canadian. There's not many people that do that, yeah. So they're all searching like how, the hell, what am I supposed to do now? Right.
Speaker 2:But let me ask you something. What would you type in if you're searching, like if you're, if you're really thinking like, holy shit, this might be the end of my career. What do I do now? What's?
Speaker 1:something you would type in, based on how you talk. I would type in say you know college quarterback, what should I do next? What's my next thing? Something, something along those lines.
Speaker 2:Life after sports or like road to the nfl, like yeah, whatever it may be, or like you know life after the nfl.
Speaker 1:Like what, what should I do next? And I've, I'm telling you. I've talked to several old teammates of mine from south carolina. They were like dude, I don't know what the hell I'm supposed to do so.
Speaker 4:It's a crazy subject, by the way. We can always tap on that later, but that's like. That is something that I really tap to with the nhl guys, and that's where the agents aren't helping in that aspect.
Speaker 3:The lawyers aren't helping the agents. They're not. Are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 2:no, I don't know, I'm no. Their money's already made.
Speaker 4:Yeah, their money's gone and they're done and yeah, there is nothing and you got to remember when you're doing bye-bye yeah nfl nhl right nfl is not for long like or whatever exactly right like nhl like NHL same thing, Like it's the same.
Speaker 4:You have a guy that's played for 15 years and a guy that's maybe played 15 games. A guy that played 15 games he's not good, you know, he's gave his whole life to playing and now he didn't go to college, he doesn't have anything to fall back on and they're at a turning point where they don't know where to go, you know. And then now the leagues are starting to kind of like look into that. Now I would say it got more attention in the last few years because there's been a lot of horror stories of guys, just you know, going from the top and winding up at the bottom, Injury or complete crashing down and just not again.
Speaker 4:Don't have that itinerary anymore, since they're so used to, given this is what you're going to do every day.
Speaker 2:Now, all of a sudden, that that's gone you gotta think their entire life was high school, college, sports right, it starts from youth and it's like, and it's like what do I do now?
Speaker 4:we weren't?
Speaker 2:taught about life after this?
Speaker 4:well, that's where the coaching percent.
Speaker 1:That's where the coaching comes back and I think you just answered it. I think I. I think you just answered your question. What's life after sports? What is life after sports? That is the audience.
Speaker 2:So what's funny is if you're on TubeBuddy, okay, and you're trying to market yourself to a business after that, you would type in like life after sports, let's go with that. And then what happens is that may not be the best keyword, but then you scroll over. There's a line that says tags. It'll tell you and is what is the most often keyword for that subject? And it might say, like you know, if I were to put in like what's it like living in Tampa? That was my search the tag might be living in Tampa. That's the keyword they get searched. It's actually 13,000 times a month.
Speaker 2:So, I know my shit, but basically it's that.
Speaker 3:Are you putting it into the description, or are you putting it under the tags Titles too?
Speaker 2:I'm putting it into the keyword explorer that's in TubeBuddy. No, no, when you're uploading a video are you putting it into the title? Are you putting it?
Speaker 3:into the description and also the tags.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when you're on YouTube, man, and you're doing this when you're uploading the video.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that is my question. Understood. Yeah, that is my question.
Speaker 2:Understood. When you're on YouTube, like to even get it before you upload the video. You're going to like SEO and put tags on your entire channel to tell the audience what your channel is even about, Right? So it's like my channel is about living in Tampa, moving to Tampa, Tampa.
Speaker 3:So you're putting it in the channel description.
Speaker 2:I have a channel description to tell the algorithm what it's about, and then when I put it into the title, first the title tells you what the video is about. That includes the keyword in the title, okay. Then in the description I'm going to repeat the keyword at least three times, organically, at most, at minimum, at minimum.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because you don't want to keyword stuff either. Right, if it's 10 reasons to live in Tampa, you don't want to keyword stuff either.
Speaker 2:I'm not, but I'm organically put in there. If you're thinking about moving to or living in, tampa, florida, and you don't know the top 10 things about moving here, you got to watch this video because we're going to talk about the top 10 neighborhoods how to choose the right area to live and if you're even thinking about living here, don't you want to know what it's like living here in 2025?
Speaker 1:I've heard him say living here five times a times.
Speaker 2:Right, but it all makes sense of like, and I'm just dropping this like stuffing a little bit more for you.
Speaker 4:But if I had two paragraphs to throw that in, it's going to come off more natural, but right but here's one thing you you said one really really thing that I think the audience would take away, like yeah, everything was related to tampa, right?
Speaker 4:because we do real, we do real estate right like you know we actually like get a lot of referrals from, like other agencies out there. That's doing youtube, like, hey, like, they do a florida video. Okay, like, because they're trying to promote maybe their, their city, but they're just doing florida in general. Well, you know, if you're up in the panhandle and you get a lead from that, someone wants to move to tampa. Like, that's not the crowd that you're going for. So you have always been very specific on the target of. You know what we're putting out there relating it to Tampa Right, it's a niche, right, like you go back to the niche again. So you know, because otherwise with your channel, if you're not targeting the right audience, right, like, you're not necessarily-.
Speaker 1:Kind of spinning your wheels.
Speaker 2:Right, right, not necessarily kind of spinning their wheels right, right, exactly. So I think the niche and the targeting down is but the, I would say, the feedback we get. Because, again, understanding audience, the feedback we get always is like, dude you, you shoot it pretty straight and like, granted, a lot of my stuff is scripted because I don't want to miss a detail.
Speaker 2:But allegedly scripted no, it's scripted I don't have a problem saying it, but understand there's hours that go into that script because I don't want to miss a detail. There are parts that are not scripted and when I say scripted I don't mean like what people's responses are, I'm saying the information that I'm delivering. You have a skeleton, so I do this every single week.
Speaker 3:I put out a brand new video You're presenting.
Speaker 1:You've got a skeleton.
Speaker 2:I'm absolutely presenting, that's what it is presenting and I'm going to be out there and so like if I'm, where do you live right now? Lutz, lutz, lutz. So if I'm talking about Lutz, right, it's a hey. If you're thinking about moving to Lutz first off, it's pronounced Lutz, not Lutz Right, but check this out, lutz has one of the top school zones with Steinval for two years was because of this.
Speaker 2:However, it wasn't my vibe. And the reason it wasn't my vibe is because my kids went to St Lawrence. They were in town, my wife worked for Advent Health at the time and we had to drive down Delmabry. If you've ever driven down Delmabry at 730 in the morning, good luck.
Speaker 4:Good night so.
Speaker 2:I'm not sugarcoating it.
Speaker 2:I'm telling them exactly how it is. But I got to tell you if you can find your 20-minute bubble, that's the key. If you can find that you like the two acres or the one acre or the piece that you found in Lutz or the Cheval neighborhood golf course, whatever, and you can find your Publix and everything else in 20 minutes, then that drive to downtown once every two weeks doesn't really matter to you. So that's your spot. But if it's not, you're going to hate it. You're going to wish you would have reached out to us earlier and found a better spot that matched your lifestyle.
Speaker 2:So I did my research in delivering that message and I was honest about it of why I live there, my experience and why I actually moved out. However, it might be your reason to live there, but it might not be. So what I'm saying is deliver that real message. You're talking about how you went through sports, how it didn't necessarily work out in the pros and your experience through it, but how people you know there should be more resources to transition to the next game. Yeah, how your experience through it. You would never change a thing.
Speaker 2:I hate to say it, but you probably would maybe one or two things but, yeah, but, but but, like, your experience was fucking amazing, absolutely right and it was life-changing and you're here today because of that and no doubt and and sharing that raw version.
Speaker 2:There's more people that are in your shoes than are not a hundred fucking percent, and that's the real message, man, yeah, um. So all that youtube talk yeah, there's, there's ways to go about it, but ultimately it's. Is there any other tips and tricks that you can share? Because I mean, bro, wait, am I schooling him right now? Yeah, you are. Yeah, you want john's in class. Is this what we're doing right now?
Speaker 3:all right, so I mean what well you're not just schooling me, you're schooling the audience yeah, well, consistency, right.
Speaker 4:So what we talked about, this guy has never missed a freaking video. Yeah, I and maybe he did one and it ate him up what do you mean by missed the video, so in four it's consistency.
Speaker 2:So in four years I've only missed three videos, and last week was the third what do you mean by missed? And not. Not, I'm consistent. One video per week is what I put out on YouTube.
Speaker 2:So one time I had the flu and it was like flu of death, right, and I was like if I put this video out, I can't, because I was like I'm putting this video, I had it shot and I was like I look like hell, I'm like you know, like I'm like stuffy, I'm like nobody's going to want to watch this. I was like this is like legit, Like I should just not put this out.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I decided like let's not put it out. So that was one. Two was an actual like I'm going to Ireland, I have it there, but I don't have one. When I get back I'm going to be rushing. And again I was like I've earned this. I've been like two and a half years with like only one video at that level. I was like I'm just going to skip this week. And I told my audience hey guys, you know good luck, I'm not going to be on this week, let you know. And they were like oh, have a great trip. It was great. I bought a vacation you know, and then this last one.
Speaker 2:I was hiring a new editor and she just did a shit job. And again, I'm not going to deliver a shit product, so that was the only one I was a little bitter about.
Speaker 1:Well, that goes on to what? And I'm going to bring this back because it pisses me off about my boy, Deontay. He doesn't want to put bad tape out. Don't put bad tape out. If you're going to put something out, don't put it out. Don't put bad shit out.
Speaker 2:But, I think what you're kind of saying is the fact that you didn't put it out hurt you? No, it actually didn't hurt at all. That's what I'm saying. No, it didn't. No, I don't think it did.
Speaker 4:But if you look at the success of the channel, the success of the channel was because I was consistent.
Speaker 2:I did my homework every single time. But I mean to the point where we're talking right now, is the consistency I delivered every single week, every single week, like there's. You gotta understand. I'm married, I have kids, I have a business running, I have people that quit on me Like it's real life.
Speaker 1:Stuff happens.
Speaker 2:By the way, I did nine vacations a year, which sounds like, oh, that must be nice, but I earned it. And I was situated like I was shooting videos in an RV one time, but I took the time out. Everybody's like, oh, you're in the Grand Canyon. I was taking calls from the ranger station because it was the only place that I could do a deal because I didn't have service anywhere else. So like I earned those times. But, that being said, I never missed a week. And why do I have number one channel for four years in a row? It's because nobody else can compete. Right? Do I have number one channel for four years?
Speaker 2:in a row, it's because nobody else can compete, right, you know, because of consistency. When you have that mindset and you're just like I'm not gonna be beat by the way I never had a background in video like we're looking at five cameras here, lighting up, lighting, download, you know for brave framework studios yeah for brave frameworks, man, that's right. So like I didn't have that, you know what I started with man a gopro.
Speaker 2:This is actually a true story you could look it up if you wanted to. But I started with a gopro 8 right that I had because it was like a leftover from like I was going on honeymoon, right, and I was like I want to shoot video underwater never did, but I had that left over and I was like I think I could shoot this with a gopro. Did it with a gopro in a room smaller than this with like just a green screen that I got for like 50 bucks on amazon and uh in a little garage now there you go yeah, you got it and a lav mic that was like 20 bucks.
Speaker 2:It was shit right, that video was the pros and cons of living in tampa. Florida had 70 000 views my first video ever and it was, if you look at, it's like yellow shit. I had a philippines editor. It was like zoink and bonk and, like you know, anime showing. Yeah, but that's like yellow shit. I had a philippines editor.
Speaker 4:It was like zoink and bonk and, like you know, anime showing yeah, but that's like the authentic part, though, of it, though you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Like that's like they saw like they saw your yes, they saw your kind of put your shit out there and right hey, and I got better with time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what I mean. Fast forward to now, though. Here's what's interesting right, right, and this is actually the honest truth of social media is the reach you can get. I recently interviewed the mayor, jane Castor, on the direction of our city, with all the people moving here that we're guilty of selling homes to, but it's going to happen anyway. It is.
Speaker 2:It is traffic. The infrastructure is not there for traffic. The expansion what are we going to handle with all these people? What are we doing as a development? Are we thinking about the neighborhoods? How are people going to get around? Are we really getting out? And she's like what's about the crime? You were the, you were the uh former tampa tpd forward.
Speaker 2:Chief of police. What are we going to do about that? And she answered them because she was on a live panel broadcast. And then who called me? Bob butthorn? No shit, the ex-mayor. He's like, hey, let's have breakfast. I had breakfast with good old bob and he's like, hey, man, uh, I'd love to tell my story of how I got here, because I built the riverwalk with bill gates and and vinik yeah um, I was a big part of all this and he flat out told me, like you know why we don't put benches in Water Street.
Speaker 2:Homeless like to sleep on benches, just being honest, I would have never thought that.
Speaker 4:but it makes sense. Actually, that makes sense. It absolutely makes sense. He's like you know what I?
Speaker 2:want to do to Ybor? I want to bring an Italian market to Ybor. I want to bring an Italian market to Ybor. I want to make Ybor where it's at again. It's got so much heritage I want to bring it back.
Speaker 3:Don't they got the Cuban club, don't they got the Italian club down there.
Speaker 2:They got a lot down there. It was the heart of, you know, the heartbeat of Tampa, for a long time.
Speaker 3:It's got so much potential. It was the Cuban culture down there that grew.
Speaker 2:Ybor. I remember a time where I couldn't to a club at least a good club without a college shirt. True story. Remember the shoe licker Huh Used to be in What'd you say Jersey, you guys ever deal with the shoe licker down there, what the?
Speaker 4:fuck's a shoe licker. Oh, so like back when we were in college and we would go to Ybor, the guy would pay you 20 bucks to lick your shoe what?
Speaker 3:Yeah pay you, we would have paid him too by the way. No no no, so he pays you to lick your shoe.
Speaker 4:Look it up on YouTube Ebor shoe licker. He's there, man. I wasn't much of an Ebor guy, that's the stuff that was down there back then.
Speaker 2:Ebor had good times. Man, it really did Good and bad, but either way, the reach is that you got multiple mayors reaching out.
Speaker 2:I. The reach is that you got multiple mayors reaching out. I mean that's huge. You get developers. I had a developer reach out with $75 million worth of real estate. He's like you guys only understand the clientele coming in that's buying this high-end real estate. We need you. My point is that if I was shaking hands and kissing babies old school, I wouldn't be able to meet these people and I wouldn't be able to put that message out and your message is a fantastic message. A lot of times, especially on this one, we touched on a lot of different things, but sports athletes that are going through it, that are like what's the next steps? That are kids that are maybe watching. I don't know, maybe parents are like you got to watch Steven. He's badass.
Speaker 1:He's like like he's gonna talk roach blood and and and you know, whatever the hell it's gonna be shooting guns, but guess what he knows how to throw a ball like.
Speaker 2:That's fine, that's real life, and so getting the reach is important I agree, 100 man that's I mean I hope.
Speaker 1:I hope you guys learned as much as I did. I know sean is dialed in.
Speaker 2:Fuck you he's got a lot of questions and the only thing I tell him is have you eaten your, your New York, new York pizza? And your and your nectar, and you popped your nectar nicotine and the answer is absolutely.
Speaker 3:Yes, I have visited New York, new York pizza and also popped in a nectar. You guys didn't see it off on camera, but you know I did. Absolutely because they are two stellar companies and they are fantastic, because they are two stellar companies and they are fantastic, they are.
Speaker 1:They are Well, shipman.
Speaker 2:I appreciate you guys coming out here, Love having the drinks brother. Fuck yeah, man, Absolutely Cheers brothers.
Speaker 1:Absolutely Well, that'll do it, man. Appreciate Adam, appreciate Phil, appreciate you, sean. We got from Gray Frameworks.