Episode 18: Bicentenial and then some... (Unedited)

Join Steve and Mike as they explore a variety of topics from classic rock legends and hot dog debates to parades, military displays, and drone shows. This episode offers a humorous and nostalgic look at American traditions and personal stories.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:22

Hey, hey, we are here. This is the Brothers Hal. This is Steve speaking, and I'm here with my my brother. His name is Mike.

SPEAKER_02 0:29

This is Mike.

SPEAKER_00 0:30

And we're here. Oh, just a second. Wow. There's dust all over this place. And these cobwebs, it's dirty in here. It's been a while since we've done this, or I've been in this room.

SPEAKER_02 0:45

Oh, I get where you're going now.

SPEAKER_00 0:47

I'm doing a bit, man. I'm doing a bit. Stay with me here. Yeah, it's yeah. Boy, you you haven't changed much though. You look pretty much the same.

SPEAKER_02 0:56

Yeah. Well, I mean, I got I got better looking, hopefully.

SPEAKER_00 1:00

Well, that's that depends on who you're talking to.

SPEAKER_02 1:02

Well, the bar was low.

SPEAKER_00 1:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:08

So this is big. You're trying to say that we haven't done this in a while. Is that what you're trying to say? Uh yeah, it's been a it's it's been a minute. It has been a minute.

SPEAKER_00 1:17

Yeah, we've been we've been on a hiatus. Um planned or non-planned, it happened and and uh there were things going on and things to be done, and and uh we had to uh put it on the shelf for a little bit. And what was but what's been going on? Well, you've been moving.

SPEAKER_02 1:36

Yeah, I know that's kind of uh um for anybody that ever listened before and now happens to find their way back to us, they're probably like, Jesus Christ, Mike, how long does it take you to move? It's been it's been uh quite an event.

SPEAKER_00 1:51

I don't think everybody moves quite the same way you did. So this that's a lot of new territory there.

SPEAKER_02 1:57

Yeah, big uh big piece of so it's not I I finally got it in my head. It's a homestead. It's not it's I I didn't move to a house, it's a homestead.

SPEAKER_00 2:05

You left civilization and went out to the wilderness, and that's kind of what happens. And I am you have to bury water and diggle latrine and all that stuff.

SPEAKER_02 2:13

Yeah, burying the fruits of living on a homestead. Some of those fruits are spoiled and rotten. I gotta throw them out, but I'm burying them.

SPEAKER_00 2:19

Well, anyway, uh, this is our big summer extravaganza. Um, as I I alluded to on the Facebook page a few days ago, that uh we would be bringing you kind of a tied over episode until we can get the ball rolling full time again. And uh this would be it, and we're going to use this to take advantage of the timing. We're gonna talk about the nation's birthday, which is which is coming up in just a few days, and uh maybe the history thereof, and look back at the bicentennial.

SPEAKER_02 2:47

Well, I love that. Um, you say extravaganza, it means we've got the I feel like you set the bar really high there, and I gotta live up to it.

SPEAKER_00 2:54

Well, it's gonna be the best show we've ever done.

SPEAKER_02 2:56

Oh God.

SPEAKER_00 2:59

And it's going to be it's just a big bonanza in that we're probably gonna add like 10 or 15 minutes longer than we usually uh usually okay.

SPEAKER_02 3:06

Well, you're really calling it out there. I hope you have a great agenda here because uh I am ready to make off comments. I don't know how much prepared material I got to put into this, but let's do this.

SPEAKER_00 3:18

Well, you know, I found it kind of hard. I thought it would be so easy to find stuff on the bicentennial. No, it's it's it's not been easy. Every time I go in looking for something regarding the bicentennial, basically what I get back is stuff about um the bicentennial quarter and half piece and dollar.

SPEAKER_02 3:35

But like bicentennial, uh what you're talking about, like because we're at 250.

SPEAKER_00 3:40

Right.

SPEAKER_02 3:40

Right? So you're talking about the 200 was the bicentennial.

SPEAKER_00 3:44

Yeah, 1976.

SPEAKER_02 3:46

I remember a little bit about it, not a whole lot.

SPEAKER_00 3:49

So you would have been nine, I would have been 13. Um, right smack in the middle of is it a stretch to say it it is our favorite decade? I'm pretty sure it's mine. I would think it's yours too, right? You've talked very fondly about the 70s in the past, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:04

It's my favorite to reflect upon because I was so young, I don't have a whole lot of direct experiences, you know.

SPEAKER_00 4:11

Right, right.

SPEAKER_02 4:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:13

Well I yeah, yeah, because because when the decade started, you were very young. Okay. It's probably my most prolific as far as growing up.

SPEAKER_02 4:21

I mean, my favorite, my favorite, I look back now, my favorite music. It really, and I know a lot of people argue me or argue with me on that, but I mean, I love it. I I even I I even used to hate disco. I like it now.

SPEAKER_00 4:34

Yeah, I I think it is the pinnacle of music. There, there was probably better stuff in the 60s and maybe a little bit in the 80s, but there wasn't as much quality stuff as there was in the 70s.

SPEAKER_02 4:46

I I was listening to um something the other day. I was listening to um Sweet Emotion Aerosmith and just really listening to it, not just like, oh, it's on in the background. I was just listening to it and had it cranked up on a really nice sound system, and I'm like these guys were geniuses, they they kept rock alive in the 70s.

SPEAKER_00 5:12

They were, I think they were the uh the premier US rock band, right?

SPEAKER_02 5:18

I mean, I mean when everybody was doing the dance club music, and there is some disco I really like, and and they're playing it live with instruments and what have you. Cool. I like that, but there was a lot of just dance club crap I didn't like. But yeah, the the the good disco bands were cool. I didn't appreciate them then, but you know, as far as rock, I'm like, listen, listen to to um sweet emotion and just the production of that and how cool it was. And yes, that and what what was the other one? Uh their big one, um Walk This Way, right? And not the run DMC stuff. That was fun. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed it, it was fun, but the the real rock that they were doing in the 70s, it was awesome.

SPEAKER_00 5:59

And you're hitting Aerosmith everywhere but 76. You you've got them before 76, you've got Toys in the Attic, which came in 77. Uh Rocks was their album of 76, which gave me, gave us my favorite Aerosmith song, Last Child. Last Child is a is a rock masterpiece. I mean, that song.

SPEAKER_02 6:22

I'm not sure I know I probably heard it, but I don't know that one by name.

SPEAKER_00 6:26

Oh, you've heard it. You've definitely heard it. It also had Back in the Saddle on that album as well. Great, great album.

SPEAKER_02 6:30

Oh, back in the saddle, great.

SPEAKER_00 6:32

That was the one that primed everybody for Toys in the Attic. Rox kind of uh took them from that uh that sweet emotion phase when they were they were getting known to putting them bam on the map. What um which what one was walking the dog on?

SPEAKER_02 6:51

I feel like I just want a jeopardy jeopardy question by asking that or something.

SPEAKER_00 6:55

Is that right? Now that was a blues cover, right?

SPEAKER_02 6:59

Yeah, I I think it was, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:00

And it was probably on the on the was it would that have been on the first album? Oh, maybe, maybe. Or maybe get your wings. I I confused the uh the lineup on those two albums from time to time.

SPEAKER_02 7:11

But I think my point being by bringing them up though, is when I talk about 70s, I'm talking about, you know, really disco, everybody knows disco 70s. I didn't like it then, I like it now if it's good disco. But the 70s was really like, I mean, Aerosmith, fantastic, but you also had you had Led Zeppelin, you had some really great power rock bands, man, that were kicking ass.

SPEAKER_00 7:34

Well, I yeah, you were you were fired on firing on all cylinders pretty much in the 80s, where every genre had some really great stuff.

SPEAKER_01 7:43

Well, you're talking about 70s, though, not 80s.

SPEAKER_00 7:45

70s, excuse me, yes. Yeah, and uh so so that's why that's why I say that it probably had more to offer than the 60s or the 80s as far as true quality. There was there was just so much of it to immerse yourself in. And 76 may well have been the pinnacle of all that, because there was some incredible stuff that came out in that year. A lot of bands debuted that year. Some great albums came out that year. You had on the on the cusp of 77, you had maybe two of the two of the biggest of all time. You had the Eagles released Hotel California at the tail end of 76, and then just after the year turned, you had uh Fleetwood Mac deliver rumors in February.

SPEAKER_02 8:25

Oh my gosh, what a great album, man. Yeah, both of those are great albums. So you know it all peaked right when we had go back to the you know what we're talking about is the bicentennial, right? Right. That's kind of that's kind of I kind of like that. I'm not I was gonna say it's weird. It's not all that weird, it's just coincidental, but man, I I like I like how those two lined up. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 8:47

Yeah, they uh 76 music was um really incredible. They even well, even even KISS. KISS had two albums that year. They early early 76, they uh released Destroyer, and late 76 they released Rock and Roll All Night. Okay, so a rock and roll over, excuse me.

SPEAKER_02 9:07

Rock and roll over, yeah. It had rock and roll all night on it, I think, right? Uh no, that would that was an early one. But anyway, so I'm gonna go okay. Disco, like my opinion of disco at the time was the same as my opinion of Kiss at the time.

unknown 9:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:24

Was I didn't like him.

SPEAKER_00 9:27

I I did kind of like him, and I guess it was big because it was right in the wheelhouse of those two albums. And and for my money, that was their that that was their wheel, that was their their pinnacle right there. That was their best two albums.

SPEAKER_02 9:38

I and don't get me wrong, I I like Kiss now and I appreciate them. But I will still, when I listen to a Kiss song, the production quality is not there.

SPEAKER_00 9:48

Well, well, KISS is kind of um, I mean, not no, so the people who are serious about it will hate this. Uh, but Kiss is kind of a tongue-in-cheek like, it's one of those um It is. It's campy.

SPEAKER_02 9:59

It's it's jumping the shark of a rock band.

SPEAKER_00 10:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:03

And I do think that I do I watched Kistery again. I love that I love that they just double up on the on the campiness of it. But there is a thing called kistery, and it's um I think it's that had to be Gene Simmons all the way. Oh, Gene Simmons, and I think I think it was Paul Stanley. I think it was the two of them. The other two didn't participate in it, right?

SPEAKER_00 10:23

So um even just coming up with that name, Kist Kistery. I love that's Gene Simmons because he's he's always about marketing and promoting. He is a business son of a gun, man.

SPEAKER_02 10:34

But that was I think the I think the of them coming up and coming into being KISS was legit. It wasn't like a band formation notice, is where I'm going with that. I think they actually did, you know, work to be a band and then got into the marketing side of it and that type of thing. Right. It wasn't, it was if I'm unless I'm mistaken, it wasn't a record company saying, okay, let's get four guys and find the guys that fit the suit. You know, I don't think it was that no Johnny Bravo's there. Yeah, it was not Johnny Bravo. Yeah. All right. So this is a big topic, man. Uh our so what what is this called, the 250?

SPEAKER_00 11:13

You know, I I'm not sure. And I think I heard it once, and I don't know that I could pronounce it.

SPEAKER_02 11:18

Are you bicentennial and then some? Is it bicentennial plus fifty plus fifty? Or by hat bicen half centennial? I think it's the 50th anniversary of the bicentennial. It's okay. Well, it's I'm not I'm doing the math. I'm not I the you know, I'm a math guy, the equation doesn't work for me.

SPEAKER_00 11:42

There is there is an official name that uh yes, but I I could tell you what it is.

SPEAKER_02 11:47

You know what? Gene Simmons could come up with a name for this.

SPEAKER_00 11:49

Oh, in a heartbeat. It would probably already he is probably already trademarked two or three. It'd probably be kiss kisstenil. We've been sitting here. The kiss tennial. Anybody who has an has uh an arena football team called the LA Kiss, I mean, come on.

SPEAKER_02 12:07

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 12:11

But yeah, I was looking when I was looking at that stuff and reading over that list, I came across um Rock and Roll Over, which is the one that had calling Dr. Love on it.

SPEAKER_02 12:19

Okay. Um again, good song, terrible production quality.

SPEAKER_00 12:23

Yeah, yeah. But you know what else I had on it too? It had a song that I really love, Hard Luck Woman.

SPEAKER_02 12:32

I I probably know it. I had the albums at one point. I never bought I bought them used. Um, but uh I had them at one point. I don't I'm not sure I know every song on them.

SPEAKER_00 12:43

You know, Hard Luck Woman, I've I I just assumed that um Kiss had written that. And I figured probably uh because it was more of a uh slower ballad type that Peter Chris had probably written it because he was the foremost um composer of um Beth.

SPEAKER_02 12:59

Beth?

SPEAKER_00 13:00

Did he write Beth? Yeah. Okay. And so I just assumed he did it, but apparently they did not do it, or maybe they did. Okay, it was written by Paul Stanley, but apparently it was written. Apparently it was written for Rod Stewart. Oh, okay. Not for themselves. Okay, I can actually hear Rod Stewart singing that song.

SPEAKER_02 13:22

So one of the best songs ever written and performed by KISS, that guy was not invited to be part of Kistery, the documentary.

SPEAKER_00 13:31

I I guess not. I never saw Kistery.

SPEAKER_02 13:34

It's worth watching it's actually very interesting. I think it's on Hulu.

SPEAKER_00 13:39

You know, a a number of bands had their debut album that year. And uh there were some good ones, like uh, well, I'm not gonna call the runaways good, but they were important for what they were. Uh Blondie, the Ramones, Boston, Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers.

SPEAKER_02 13:57

It's funny you say the Ramones, like so when all all like the uh people that would buy Kiss albums at my age in elementary school and listen to them, I'm not gonna name names, but uh that would listen to those. I I'm like I'm listening to Rocket to Russia while they're they're talking about that.

SPEAKER_00 14:16

Well, they debuted the they debuted that year, and uh of course Boston was probably the big one, and that's one of the highest-selling albums of all time. That day their debut album. I uh we've probably talked about this before, even before the podcast, at some time or another. I have never been able to get on board with Boston. So it's just never my cup of tea.

SPEAKER_02 14:34

There's a couple of things with Boston. So um I think we talked about this. You're right, I think we did, but uh I have a friend that loves Boston. We uh, you know, when they did a tour coming through all like the backwater crap of the you know stadiums and what have you, probably about six years ago or something like that. I went with him, we saw Boston. There's only the only the main guy still alive, I think. That's in the band. I forgot his name. Is that his name?

SPEAKER_00 15:01

I think so.

SPEAKER_02 15:02

I there's a couple things I liked about Boston. I like the guitar sound they had, and he marketed that. He he actually built some amps um and what have you to get that that kind of sound. That was kind of cool. You know, I think he's an I think he's an MIT graduate.

SPEAKER_00 15:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 15:19

I would argue an engineer.

SPEAKER_00 15:21

I would argue that guitar sound might have been part of the problem long term, too, because my my argument that I've had with other people who do love Boston, and I've had some heated arguments. I always said if you could just bought the 45 more than a feeling, you have the entire Boston catalog. You need not ever own anything else.

SPEAKER_02 15:38

It's a and that is a great song. It is a great song, no doubt about that.

SPEAKER_00 15:42

But everything else sounds like it or some part of it.

SPEAKER_02 15:44

Yeah, I'm with you on that. And the heated argument kind of makes me laugh. I mean, how did that go? Oh no, you didn't.

SPEAKER_00 15:52

People who love Boston really love Boston and they get offended when you when you take them down. Does it end in get out? I've only lost seven friends over it over the years. Oh, okay. Oh wow, but they weren't they weren't great friends. Well, because they liked Boston. Well, they didn't have much musical taste, so I couldn't.

SPEAKER_02 16:11

Exactly, right? How can they be friends? You can't be I thought we you like Boston? I thought we were friends. Who are you, man? You're dead to me. Get out.

SPEAKER_00 16:25

Get out. That's like that that Duke, North Carolina commercial. I don't know if I know that. The kid comes up and knocks on the door. He's wearing a he's wearing a Duke jersey, and uh his girlfriend who he just started going out with opens the door, and his whole family jersey.

SPEAKER_02 16:46

Yes, I do remember that. Yeah, that's funny. That is funny. All right, so all we've talked about all we've done so far is rehash our music episode.

SPEAKER_00 16:56

Well, no movement.

SPEAKER_02 16:57

But we concentrated 76, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:00

Yeah, and there's nothing wrong with that. It is a great year for music, and and that's really what I relate it to more than anything else, other than I guess movies and television, but media, sure. And then those those uh those bicentennial quarters, of which I have I probably have $200 in bicentennial quarters.

SPEAKER_02 17:17

I'm sure you do. And I bet they're worth like almost 25 and a half cents now.

SPEAKER_00 17:22

Almost. It's all about patience, Mike.

SPEAKER_02 17:25

Yeah, it is, yeah. Yeah. Somewhere you're you're great, great, great, great, great to the power of 32. Uh, you know, uh children are gonna just cash in on that.

SPEAKER_00 17:38

I'll tell you this though, I actually have one sitting right here, and I didn't dig it out for this episode, but I got this in change about five days ago, and they're disappearing because this is the first one I've gotten in change in several years.

SPEAKER_02 17:54

Okay. So I uh not that they will ever be worth anything. Well, so that's interesting. Okay, so not the bicentennial part, but the fact that you get change. Wait, what the hell are you buying where you get change? I don't get change on anything.

SPEAKER_00 18:08

Oh, whenever I go into a convenience store or something like that, I I use cash? Cash, yes.

SPEAKER_02 18:13

Oh, you slow up the whole line. Everybody's like, oh my god, a guy's putting in cash.

SPEAKER_00 18:17

I do. Mike, it's not just about reminiscing about 76 and the 70s decade. I live there. You do live there, and I have no desire to leave it. Do you get out your coin purse?

SPEAKER_02 18:33

Okay, wait a minute. How much is that again?

SPEAKER_00 18:35

Uh I think I have one of those little cylinders that has it's like a pest dispenser. Oh, you do the ch ch ch Yes. I got a belt that's got that on there. You know, they got that big steel tube and you press the button.

SPEAKER_02 18:51

Okay, how much there you go. Well, then you're not slowing up the line at least. It's the exact change. The only part slowing up the line is the cashier and all going, what do I do with this?

SPEAKER_00 19:04

I have not tried to spend a penny though lately. Is that even possible? Can you spend a penny? Will somebody take that? Well, if it's a real penny, it's worth more than a penny. Well, yeah, prior to anyone.

SPEAKER_02 19:15

Yeah. So um, you know, I ever I there's because I live in you know a homestead, and now like I do have to deal with cash every now and then. So I recent the reason I asked that is that recently I think I've had two transactions in the past two months where I actually walked out with some change. I'm like, what the hell do I do with this?

SPEAKER_00 19:36

I love change, man. I I don't ever want to lose lose that. I love it.

SPEAKER_02 19:40

You and uh who's that? What was that that show uh about the the uh pawn shop in Vegas?

SPEAKER_00 19:48

Hate that show, but I know what you're talking about, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:50

Yeah, so the old man in there that owns the pawn shop, not Rick and you know his son, but the old man just passed away. Oh, did he pass away? But he he he he was like you. He like hid pennies and stuff like that in in bulk and what have you. And they were they made they made fun of that on one episode. It was kind of funny. They were like, I know the old man's collecting the copper pennies, we can't find them. And they walk and you know, they walk by this old antique car, and uh and then the camera goes back to the antique car and the shocks are so low on it that you know it's something really heavy's in there.

SPEAKER_00 20:26

Yeah. Okay, I didn't see that episode, but it sounds incredibly scripted to me. It doesn't sound real at all. Oh, it was totally scripted, I mean, but it was funny. So you must be shopping, uh you say you're using shape, you so you shop at uh Mr. Drucker's store, basically, is what you do. Um way out in the middle of nowhere.

SPEAKER_02 20:48

It's not quite that bad. You know, it what I what I struggle with is um what I'm trying to learn now is like, so anytime I need to get something, right? Uh you uh you have to drive, you have to plan. So if I want a hardware thing or or you know, or I don't have a pipe clamp that's the right size to do some stupid project internally, um I have to drive, I have to drive 90 minutes and then spend half hour getting it and then 90 minutes back, you know? So I gotta plan for everything like that. Now, there is some closer places that are very boutique-ish that might have something, but do I drive, do I waste 45 minutes driving to that and thinking and they might not have it? Or do I go to the Home Depot that's 90 minutes away? You know what I mean? That's what I'm struggling with right now. So not quite a Drucker's. There's there's an ace that's like 50 minutes away, and they have a lot of stuff, but if they have what I want, I'm paying double for it. One.

SPEAKER_00 21:50

But you're paying for the you're paying for the helpful hardware man.

SPEAKER_02 21:53

You get it the helpful hardware man, he has a change thing on his belt, and he's not giving me any change from it because. Everything's very expensive. But the thing is, they probably don't have that little part I need. So that that's my struggle. So um trying to think like where have I gotten change lately? Um it's not quite Druckers, but there's been like, you know, it might have been like a no, because it wouldn't be coin changed in. I don't know where it was, but it's been twice. It's only been since I lived here in southern Colorado.

SPEAKER_00 22:26

What do you do when you go through a toll booth that wants a quarter?

SPEAKER_02 22:29

Um turn around because I have no business being in a place that only takes quarters.

SPEAKER_00 22:34

Well, they have those here in the Richmond area where they're not.

SPEAKER_02 22:37

Well, I'm sure there's a fast pass for a credit card or something.

SPEAKER_00 22:40

Yeah, but not everybody has that. In my work truck, I don't have one of those. And and uh I always get I'm always getting a receipt from them so it can be paid online because I'm I'm not there's not paying to go to the street.

SPEAKER_02 22:53

There is no major route that would not take a digital form of payment. Come on. There's no way.

SPEAKER_00 22:59

Well, I I mean we do have toll booths on uh inwards.

SPEAKER_02 23:02

No, I get it, but you hand them a you give a credit card for a quarter? I'm just saying, if if if if you're driving somewhere that requires quarters, then then that government has has basically made that throwaway, throughway, whatever you call it, um, a standstill because not many people that aren't driving that on a regular basis have any idea of change in their car to pay for that.

SPEAKER_00 23:27

That's amazing. We've lost everything.

SPEAKER_02 23:30

Amazing that I deduced that without ever doing it.

SPEAKER_00 23:34

It's just amazing that we've lost everything that was so so grand and so fantastic. Oh my gosh. Oh, the joy of change, just carrying change and hearing the jango lang a lang. Jango.

SPEAKER_02 23:52

Isn't there a song? Jango Lang a Lang in my pocket.

SPEAKER_00 23:56

Yeah, there is. I think that's a pocket going jango.

SPEAKER_02 24:01

Yeah, yeah. Isn't that like uh but that was about getting married by a shotgun, I thought, right?

SPEAKER_00 24:07

I could be. It's it's just some beans in your jeans, man, and you gotta have it.

SPEAKER_02 24:13

I I disagree. If I gotta carry change, I I literally, if Tina's with me, I'll take I'll I'll take it and say, can you put this in your purse? I don't want it in my pocket.

SPEAKER_00 24:22

Well, don't you find great joy in coming home when you do go to Drucker's and you come back with that change in your pocket, putting it in the big jar?

SPEAKER_02 24:29

So I don't have any joy in that because I'll forget it's in my pocket and it'll go through the laundry. I'll never see it again.

SPEAKER_00 24:36

Well, where does it go? Does Tina Tina pull it out and put it in her jar?

SPEAKER_02 24:40

She puts it in some jar that probably is still sitting there that's never been cashed in ever.

SPEAKER_00 24:46

And it's half change, half lent.

SPEAKER_02 24:48

And it's just sitting there. It's so attractive. I want to go through that.

SPEAKER_00 24:52

See, that's the kind of thing that would draw my attention right away if I were at your house and ask you if I could go through that and see if there were any weaknesses.

SPEAKER_02 24:59

We're way off base here. The change, come on. This is I'm editing this out. The change thing is just dumb.

SPEAKER_00 25:09

I can't believe you would deprive people of this, but you go right ahead and do what you think you have to.

SPEAKER_02 25:13

Yeah, that's well, it's a collaborative effort. If you want to get on and say no, I vote, you get it. We'll have to get it third. We had we need to get somebody else to have a tiebreaker vote.

SPEAKER_03 25:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 25:25

Where are we?

SPEAKER_00 25:27

We are talking about 1976.

SPEAKER_02 25:30

Yeah, I think we taught we started talking about the bicentennial, the said bicentennial and a half, and music in 76. And my God, we didn't not get far.

SPEAKER_00 25:44

No, we didn't.

SPEAKER_02 25:45

Yeah. So what are we doing?

SPEAKER_00 25:46

We're doing what we're doing. What are we doing? What are we doing? So we'll talk, we can we're gonna talk more more um bicentennial and and uh we could talk other other uh 4th of July stuff as well. What anything you'd like to delve into with that?

SPEAKER_02 26:01

I I have something, but it has nothing. I'll save it for later. It's really too I'd be thrusting it into the conversation, doesn't make any sense at this point. Um so what uh pop culture-wise, so is there some sort of um any kind of observations you have? I think we talked about the the bicentennial, but what about the bicentennial and a half? I that's what I'm gonna call it moving forward.

SPEAKER_00 26:28

Well, I I have not seen as many things regarding the 250th anniversary uh in pop culture and in media that I seem to remember seeing in the bicentennial. In the bicentennial year when we were it was it was everywhere all the time.

SPEAKER_02 26:44

It was pretty huge.

SPEAKER_00 26:45

Yeah, it was it was a very big deal.

SPEAKER_02 26:47

And I get maybe it's because it's a hundredth anniversary instead of a 50th kind of deal, but um it has we my take is we better celebrate every little thing we can. I mean, who knows what we now have the longest um what do you call it? The longest um democracy ever, right? As a country. Is that right? I I think so. So you know, uh, we'd better celebrate everything we can. Who knows how long it's gonna last?

SPEAKER_00 27:19

Yeah, and it's um we don't want to get on that path.

SPEAKER_02 27:21

I'm not getting political, but I mean just as a whole. That's that's what my point is, you know? Right, right. And it's not even that we'll change internally. I mean, oh, you know, if China gets really upset, they might, you know, come and take us. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 27:36

They're very patient.

SPEAKER_02 27:38

Yeah, they're just yeah, they are very patient.

SPEAKER_00 27:41

They sit back and they laugh a lot, I know.

SPEAKER_02 27:42

Yeah, but and they have pockets full of change.

SPEAKER_00 27:49

I get that reference. Yeah, okay, cool. Wow. Um things about 1976, though.

SPEAKER_02 28:06

God damn it, it's part of 1976.

SPEAKER_00 28:09

I lost everything.

SPEAKER_02 28:10

Okay, so it sounds like uh 1976, lost everything. I'm trying to I'm trying to see where you're going here.

SPEAKER_00 28:20

Yeah, well, I can't see where I'm going anymore now either, because I lost it.

SPEAKER_02 28:24

Okay. Well, anyway, so something happened in 1976 where we celebrated everything because you said it was like probably a bigger bigger event than being 250 years, right? What is going on? Does what is going on? Do we know any pop culture stuff that's happening that's scheduled for this weekend?

SPEAKER_00 28:45

Well, I I you'll you'll get your usual um PBS coverage of fireworks and things like that, which bore me to tears, frankly. I'm not a big firework guy anyway. Uh, and they get the most droll acts for that thing. People that have either either already been hasbins for 20 years or or never will be, and it's just boring.

SPEAKER_02 29:05

Can you give me an example?

SPEAKER_00 29:07

No, because they're so dull that I don't even remember any of them.

SPEAKER_02 29:11

I I I need a droll example.

SPEAKER_00 29:16

I can't give you one, but but they give you things like the army band and things like that. I mean, I was sorry, that's that's nice, but that's it's really kind of they're so borish.

SPEAKER_02 29:25

Or what's another word? Uh I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 29:28

You get you get celebrities like, gosh, you don't even get get them as good as Bob Hope anymore, of course. He's long gone, but you don't even get anybody like that. If it's good as Bob Hope.

SPEAKER_02 29:38

We don't okay. There goes half our audience. There we go. No, half our audience is like, I have no idea what you're talking about. They have no idea who Bob Hope is? Well, I'm just saying we lost any possible younger audience. This was just starting to come in.

SPEAKER_00 29:55

When they start to come in and they they started, they put that that toe in the door and now they've drawn it back.

SPEAKER_02 29:59

Yeah, now they're gone. Never mind. Go ahead and shut the door.

SPEAKER_00 30:03

I want them. Um you do have downtown, you've got, which has kind of been big in the media here this last week, you've got the um the um the America State Fair thing on the mall, which is it's controversial, of course, because those that don't want it to exist hate it, and those that do want it to exist love it.

SPEAKER_02 30:25

I don't know what you I don't know what you mean. What what is that?

SPEAKER_00 30:28

It is what's set up down on the mall where they've got all 50 states represented except for the ones that didn't want to be a part of it.

SPEAKER_02 30:34

Oh, because it's a okay. We don't want to talk about the political problem.

SPEAKER_00 30:37

It's a mess. Yeah, that's fine. Um it's a mess. I don't understand not wanting to be an American because of who's in office. Oh, what let's not go there.

SPEAKER_02 30:46

Um, it's just so so it just sounds maybe because there's a lot of political divide, do you think it's not as big a celebration?

SPEAKER_00 30:54

That's part of it. That's part of it.

SPEAKER_02 30:56

But but I I'm gonna I'm gonna argue with that a little bit though. There is there's political divide every single year, administration, every decade. I I think always.

SPEAKER_00 31:07

That's why you have two or more parties. But it is it is. I mean, can you imagine 76?

SPEAKER_02 31:14

I mean, that was a disaster of a political time, but we there is a lot of celebration stuff going on.

SPEAKER_00 31:24

Yeah, I I think maybe the bicentennial saved some of that.

unknown 31:27

Got us.

SPEAKER_00 31:28

It could be an A.

SPEAKER_02 31:29

Coming out of the tail end, probably of Vietnam and everything. And Watergate. Maybe we wanted to celebrate, you know, something we wanted something to celebrate.

SPEAKER_00 31:37

We came into that year with uh Gerald Ford as president, and that was coming off Watergate. Um best president we ever had. Gerald Ford? I'm just kidding. Okay. He was he was a stair. Okay, yeah, he was he was a placeholder. Yeah, but he was he was a he was not a bad president, he was a good man. Yeah, good man. Um do you remember his his uh his vice president?

SPEAKER_02 32:01

Spiro Agnew?

SPEAKER_00 32:02

No, that was Nixon's vice president. Okay, Nixon's first vice president before Ford.

SPEAKER_02 32:09

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 32:10

Nelson Rockefeller. Nothing.

SPEAKER_02 32:15

What does that mean for me though?

SPEAKER_00 32:16

No, that was just asking just a bit of trivia. I wanted to know if you knew. Oh, okay, okay, wow.

SPEAKER_02 32:20

I feel okay, thanks for I feel edified.

SPEAKER_00 32:27

So, and then of course, by the by the tail end of you had the election, that was an election year, and and Carter won in November of 76. So that was the end of the year.

SPEAKER_02 32:35

The only thing I remember back back then was Carter's inauguration inaugurate inaugural ceremony. Um, there you go. Uh, I think Eagles played at it, and they said as a new kid in town, that was the song they played at it.

SPEAKER_00 32:54

I remember that, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:56

That's the only thing I because I was pretty young, but I remember that. That the Eagles are.

SPEAKER_00 33:05

How do they do that? We conservative well, I shouldn't kid Rock, but I shouldn't Kid Rock. Yeah, Kid Rock and Ted Newzig. Yay.

SPEAKER_02 33:17

I'm not gonna say we, I'm not gonna say they, okay. But you know what? You get somebody that like damn right, we're gonna do our own honey and eat our own meat, and the other guy was born in a trailer park and looking for pussy. Man. All right, so you you had a flow here. Did you lose it all? Well, no, we got off music, is what happened. Oh, okay, okay. So I but we have some other stuff that hopefully we can talk about.

SPEAKER_00 33:57

Well, there are other things, but we're gonna come back to music. Okay. Because there's lots of it to to cover yet.

SPEAKER_02 34:04

Um I can see your background there in the in the computer. Were there penguins? Do we have to talk about penguins? Where do you see that? I don't know. I thought you scrolled up there. I saw a penguin, I thought.

SPEAKER_00 34:14

I didn't see any penguins.

SPEAKER_02 34:16

Okay, well, so penguins have absolutely nothing to do.

SPEAKER_00 34:19

You you got the you got the other side of media too. It's not just audio, it's video as well. So you've got television and you've got movies. Um, top movie of 76. Any ideas? Uh we actually touched on the cuckoo's nuts. Yes, absolutely. What was it we were talking about that? Did I really got that right? Yeah. Wow. I remember we were talking about that in one of the earlier episodes, and we were like, yeah, but it got beat out by one flu over the cuckoo's nest, and we couldn't really argue with it. What was the movie?

SPEAKER_02 34:50

I don't remember that one.

SPEAKER_00 34:51

I don't remember it either.

SPEAKER_02 34:53

I and I I do remember talking about that.

SPEAKER_00 34:56

Was it Jaws?

SPEAKER_02 34:56

It might have been.

SPEAKER_00 34:57

No, I don't think Jaws was 70, 75, I think.

SPEAKER_02 35:00

It seems like it was earlier in 76. Uh, but you can't argue with one flu over the cuckoo's nest.

SPEAKER_00 35:06

No, you can't. Incredible movie. Incredible movie. And that's where we've that was one of the earliest uh moments of being introduced to Dan Danny DeVito. So that's valuable.

SPEAKER_02 35:16

Can I can I say something? So I won't say who. People in my house. So uh we did a Don Quixote theme on on one wall. And it's a big, big picture, like kind of like uh I don't know, somebody drew it and it's kind of cool. Big windmill in the back, guy on a horse in the front, and what have you. And somebody asked, Well, okay, why the windmill? I'm like, really? Have you have you ever read the book? Yeah. And and then uh then the other person goes, Well, yeah, windmills. Well, and they talked about all these actors and stuff. I'm like, okay, you know you're talking about the musical. Has anybody ever actually read the book in this house besides me? Like, not that I wanted to read the book, but anybody that's probably listening to this because there are a lot of the people I did go to high school with, they all know we had to read the book.

SPEAKER_00 36:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:17

But um it was very interesting that we've lost some of that classic literature. And the reason I say that because we were talking about, you know, uh, what was it, Keasey wrote um wrote um One Flavor of Cuckoo's Ness?

SPEAKER_03 36:29

Right.

SPEAKER_02 36:30

And I did, I read that book. I it was just it just floored me. I couldn't believe it. The number one number one TV show of the year in 76. Cared to hear us on that one? No, I'll guess. Um, give me a second here. Number one TV show 76? Was it was it happy days? It sure was. Good guess. Oh my god, I bat a thousand, man. I really guys, I really have nothing in front of me. I had no idea.

SPEAKER_00 36:59

That was back during years were years where ABC just rocked. They they had they had they pummeled everybody for uh for most of the mid-70s, early 70s as well.

SPEAKER_02 37:10

Well, that that it's kind of crazy. I remember Happy Day so prolific and I was only nine. Wow. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:17

It's funny it that it came up uh when I was looking it up earlier because uh last night I was desperate for anything. I was having a hard time falling asleep. I usually do on Sunday nights, and uh I was looking for something to watch and I couldn't find anything with all those choices. There's nothing I want to see, and I finally settled on happiness. All right, at least it's one of the first two seasons when it was still credible. So I watched it and uh I saw three episodes before I fell asleep, and they were all good ones from the actual 50s stuff like you would expect, not the garbage that came later.

SPEAKER_02 37:52

So Fonzi was wearing a gray, a gray just fabric jacket.

SPEAKER_00 37:57

No, this was second season. He was wearing the leather jacket by then, he wasn't the gray one was the first season.

SPEAKER_02 38:03

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 38:03

But it still had them in the original house, and that's how I gauge a good episode from a bad one.

SPEAKER_02 38:11

And brother Chuck and Chuck was still involved, even though you're I thought that's I enjoyed all I enjoyed all of it and until they did the were any anytime the Brady bunch, the happy days, whatever, they're gonna travel, you know, you're gonna, it's gone to shit.

SPEAKER_00 38:27

You didn't like the Brady bunch of Hawaii episodes or can you episodes?

SPEAKER_02 38:32

No, no, really? Hey, I'm gonna put beans in a flashlight for this Indian kid. It was that this Indian kid's lost in the biggest tourist attraction in the world. Wow, these beans are very acidic for some reason.

SPEAKER_00 38:48

Why do they taste funny? Why did you put vinegar in it? I keep getting my my spoon caught on that spring in the bottom. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:01

No, well, you just have to move that big lever side of it and it'll come out. All right. So what it what was are we gonna talk about some memories here from 4th of July? Fourth of you have some? I mean, I have some.

SPEAKER_00 39:21

I remember uh probably the only memories I really have, or I remember very early on with the sparklers and that fireworks. Sparklers are my only memory that we got from the JCs when we were still very little, before when our parents were still together, living out in Warrington. And on the concrete walkway leading up to the two steps that went up to the front door, that's where we were sitting around in lawn chairs. And I remember doing the snakes, and I was fascinated by the snakes.

SPEAKER_02 39:51

Oh god, the snakes were so weird. What the hell was that? And who came up with that?

SPEAKER_03 40:00

Hey, you know what?

SPEAKER_02 40:00

We're gonna put this com we're gonna put this compound together, and if you light it, it looks like a snake came out of a fire. Like, that is my worst fucking nightmare ever.

SPEAKER_00 40:09

And then the the black smoke that comes off of it, you'll breathe that in and it'll affect you later in life, but we won't worry about that right now.

SPEAKER_02 40:15

Yeah, right. So let's just have fun. The snakes were the snakes were so weird, and those were considered one of those, like, okay, the little kids can play with the snake thing, and the little kids can play with the sparkler thing, and then you might get a cone that spouts out sparks.

SPEAKER_00 40:32

Yeah. I remember the cones also on that concrete walkway. Wasn't much to it.

SPEAKER_02 40:38

What they they were they were the lamest fireworks ever. Now I would love those fireworks because you can't get fireworks anymore. But you can't get them? Well, we're not not we're so dry out here. This nobody wants you to even have anything that creates a spark in any way, shape, or form.

SPEAKER_03 40:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:57

In fact, I I didn't tell you. So literally, right now I'm looking across from my at my front door, and there's a huge wildfire creating this huge plume that's heading this way.

SPEAKER_00 41:08

Really?

SPEAKER_02 41:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:10

Why don't you backlight it now while you got a chance?

SPEAKER_02 41:14

How do I backlight that?

SPEAKER_00 41:16

You just start another fire headed in that direction so it burned, you know, clashing with each other.

SPEAKER_02 41:21

Do I have a talk with the fire when I light it? Hey, you can only go that direction. I want you to go out this way, but he's gonna go there.

SPEAKER_00 41:28

I don't understand the science behind it, but there is a way to do it. I mean, I've heard this before.

SPEAKER_02 41:33

It's not it's not me asking it and having a little coaching session beforehand.

SPEAKER_00 41:39

Well, you you you you start it by lighting a candle and you talk to it while it's small and in control.

SPEAKER_02 41:44

Yeah, right. And then once it realizes, fuck you. I'll do whatever I want.

SPEAKER_00 41:52

You know, like a teenager. Well, you're getting older now, kind of brash, are you? You're the big boy now.

SPEAKER_02 42:03

Yeah, I I got a teenage fire heading my way now, and then it's gonna become an old man. I go, you know what? If you're there to burn, you burn. I I feel like we're losing the bicentennial vibe. I'm feeling it though, man. I've got the spirit.

SPEAKER_00 42:21

I like it. I think you got the spirit, yes, you do. You got the spirit. How about you? That's right. A G G R E S S I V E say B aggressive. I B.

SPEAKER_02 42:35

I remember going to those uh football games when I was younger, and you were playing, you were quarterback in high school, and I was younger, and I'd go to the go to the the games and watch the cheerleaders, you know, and I wasn't creepy yet. So I was just watching like they're doing the songs and what have you, and they would do that spirit one, and then they would just like in between all their little cheers, I go, way to go, TJ, way to go. You know, and I'm like just like well, I'm thinking there's this guy on the team named TJ. And I'm like, oh my god, this guy must be incredible. Which one is he? Because they cheer about him all the time. That's literally what I thought.

SPEAKER_00 43:19

They had quite a catalog, too, didn't they? They had so many cheers to choose from.

SPEAKER_02 43:23

Yeah, whoever came up with that one, they they they probably made a million dollars.

SPEAKER_00 43:27

I remember later in life when ESPN was pretty young and they didn't have the rights to all the big sports yet, and they would show just about anything, and they would show cheerleader competitions and things like that. And I would see these cheerleader competitions and think, my God, our cheerleaders suck.

SPEAKER_02 43:44

Oh god, yes. Right? Yes. Oh, it truly is a sport. I didn't know. Yeah. So um was that on the Ocho ESPN? The Ocho? The Ocho. ESPN 8. Oh, yeah. In that dodgeball, the movie? ESPN EOCO showed all the dodgeball competitions.

SPEAKER_00 44:11

Yeah. Oh, do you remember ESPN in the early days? It was pretty much unwatchable.

SPEAKER_02 44:17

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_00 44:18

Yeah, it was all just uh nine ball and bowling, and you might get dirt biking from time to time or a fishing show, but you didn't know dirt biking would be cool. Fishing I could deal with.

SPEAKER_02 44:30

Bowling, no.

SPEAKER_00 44:31

Yeah, there was a lot, there was a lot of pool. Nine ball tournaments, eight ball tournaments, Atlantic City.

SPEAKER_02 44:36

Uh oh my God, that's terrible.

SPEAKER_00 44:39

They just didn't have they didn't have rights to anything yet. The closest they got to real sports was I think when they landed the contract for the USFL, the first USFL, and they had football.

SPEAKER_02 44:50

And was that McMahon's? Um, that was the XFL that came out. Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 44:57

The first USFL was the one when Donald Trump owned the Generals, and we had a team called the Federals. And then George Allen went over there and coached, and they they stole a they stole a few NFLs, but how come that never works? Kind of working right now, finally. It's it's well, maybe well, you don't have a team in Denver, for one thing. Um it helps if you have a team in your market, but uh it's it's better than it's ever been as far as spring football goes. And it's it's gaining ground, and they are getting people showing up to games.

SPEAKER_02 45:33

Well, okay.

SPEAKER_00 45:35

Is it I I think it's probably the NFL is helping it a little bit too.

SPEAKER_02 45:39

Really? Why?

SPEAKER_00 45:40

Yeah, because that's where they experiment with all their rule changes and the things they try.

SPEAKER_02 45:44

And that's interesting.

SPEAKER_00 45:46

It's kind of developing into sort of like a farm system.

SPEAKER_02 45:49

Because like the XFL the XFL came up with that camera thing, right? On all the wires overhead and what have you that gives you. Yeah. I remember that. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 45:58

We have the kickoff that we have in the NFL now largely because of this US USFL.

SPEAKER_02 46:03

Which, okay, I that's not a good example because I hate that.

SPEAKER_00 46:08

Well, they're trying to keep people from getting hurt, but yeah, I've gotten used to it.

SPEAKER_02 46:12

Uh, I prefer the old way, but I I don't I don't even think about I get it from get I I don't want people to get hurt, but I mean you're taking a lot out of it with that one.

SPEAKER_00 46:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 46:22

Anyway, how does that relate to bicentennial?

SPEAKER_00 46:25

Uh it doesn't. It doesn't. You might want to save that for Patreon. I don't know. And and that stuff about the coin changing stuff and the coin, you need to save that for Patreon too.

SPEAKER_02 46:37

Yeah, so I just kind of I got this monster edit session I gotta deal with here.

SPEAKER_00 46:42

You just just keep it, just don't erase it, as I guess is one of the terms.

SPEAKER_02 46:45

We're gonna be down to like five minutes of content for this one.

SPEAKER_00 46:47

No, we're gonna we're gonna be great. Let's get back to the music.

SPEAKER_02 46:51

Well, is it a music episode or is it a bicentennial or bicentennial and a half?

SPEAKER_00 46:57

It's about what was popular in the bicent during the bicentennial and how much we loved it.

SPEAKER_02 47:02

But not popular now for the bicentennial and a half.

SPEAKER_00 47:06

There's nothing going on for the bicentennial and half. Well, you've got the World Cup. Uh I mean, not World Cup, yeah, World Cup soccer. World Cup, yeah. Yeah. Uh I don't really care. I mean, I'm glad the U.S. is doing well. Um, I think the why don't we care?

SPEAKER_02 47:23

Why don't we care over here? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 47:25

Americans, it's just in our DNA not to like soccer, at least for at least our generations. But I mean, I played soccer when I was little. And this is what I was having this conversation with somebody the other day. Tell me why we have the best athletes in the world, and the most popular sport for kids to play since the 70s has largely been soccer. And yet, when it comes to men's soccer, we can't beat anybody. It works for the women. The women dominate. It's not a big market.

SPEAKER_01 47:57

I think that's what it is.

SPEAKER_00 47:58

I keep I kind of expected in the 90s for soccer to be at least, at least it would suddenly be a the big five. It would be hockey, basketball, football, baseball, and soccer. And it still hasn't gotten there yet.

SPEAKER_02 48:11

It hasn't. I I there's not enough marketing behind it, I think. Don't you think?

SPEAKER_00 48:17

But it makes me think, you remember when we're going to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_02 48:18

And it's controlled outside of our country. We don't we we as a just I don't even think we think about it, but we don't like that.

SPEAKER_00 48:26

Well, yeah, but the way the U.S. is, you could just say, well, we're in control now. At least, at least currently you can do that.

SPEAKER_02 48:32

But nobody nobody would care. Nobody would care to do that. Yeah, currently you could do that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:39

Well, it we'll get it in a package deal with Greenland.

SPEAKER_02 48:42

Yeah, I'm not gonna let's just stop right now. Oh, and by the way, we're taking over soccer.

SPEAKER_00 48:52

It's now, it's it is now Trump soccer, Trump football, trump rule football.

SPEAKER_02 48:59

I can just see him with his hands, and we completed the Iran, you know, deal. Beautiful deal, beautiful deal. We got everything we wanted, and we're taking over soccer.

SPEAKER_00 49:11

Uh we lost the Kennedy Center and we're getting we're getting soccer. Yeah. FIFA, don't know what it is, don't care. That's that's like the United Nation. Who needs that?

SPEAKER_02 49:27

Yeah, don't need it. Just want it. We it's a great sport. It was done right, and the only people that can do it right, we'll do it right. You know, it's okay.

SPEAKER_00 49:38

We're gonna make soccer great again.

SPEAKER_02 49:45

MSA. It's gonna be a hat coming in your way. Oh man. The Mazga. All right, let's leave that one for uh Patreon.

SPEAKER_00 50:05

Well, what do you are? Have you watched any of the soccer? The U.S. matches?

SPEAKER_02 50:08

Well, just one U.S. match. So I watched.

SPEAKER_00 50:11

The first one?

SPEAKER_02 50:12

Yeah. It's tough for me to watch. I I it's a lot like baseball for me, and I know you like baseball, but it's just too slow moving for me. Well, I'm not slow moving like athletic wise, but game-wise.

SPEAKER_00 50:24

That's always been my problem as well. I watched the first one from I I was gonna just check in on it before going to bed. It started at nine, I think, and I was I was getting ready to go to bed, and I checked, I went to check in on it, and I ended up watching the rest of the game. It had only been it had only been on for 10 minutes. I watched the rest of the game, and it was kind of riveting, but largely because we dominated. And when the U.S. dominates in something, I don't care if it's tiddlywinks or are making pot holders with looms. If if it's team-based and it's the U.S. has a team, I care whether we win or lose.

SPEAKER_02 50:59

Well, that's interesting. I I agree with you on that. Um, the the one thing in you I gotta I gotta invest time to understand it. Like the clock drives me absolutely bananas that it counts upwards. So there's no like definitive time when it ends, right? And then so the actual official time is always kept on the field, so you never know when the game's gonna end. Right. You have no idea. And then it can even say like that. I think I I think a match might be everybody's gonna correct this 80 minutes, maybe. Um, and then it'll say like 80 plus it might be 90 minutes, 90 plus six. Okay, yeah, it's now 97 minutes and 45 seconds. What the hell is going on? And I looked this up, it's like, well, they added on the field, they added you know, six minutes because of this and this and this, but they actually just stop it whenever they want. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:57

Whatever that's why I've noticed that before, too. That some somebody will score and then suddenly the game's over. Well, it's kind of a coincidence that you're gonna do.

SPEAKER_02 52:09

It seems it seems to me that they add that they do have have that plus, whatever, and that that is kind of an official, so but they'll wait to see if there's a significant place to stop after that, and then they stop it. So it's weird to me.

SPEAKER_00 52:28

Yeah, I I don't get a lot of it. And then there's they they call the field the pitch. I'm I don't do that, it's a field to me.

SPEAKER_02 52:34

That seems like Harry Potter to me. I'm out.

SPEAKER_00 52:38

I I I'd actually find Quidditch to be a little more intriguing.

SPEAKER_02 52:42

I'd be like, I would much rather watch Quidditch all day long.

SPEAKER_00 52:50

Well, someday that'll probably be a sport, so we'll see. Well, some shape or form.

SPEAKER_02 52:55

We'll have some magical and muggles. I don't know. We'll see.

SPEAKER_00 52:59

They'll find a way around that, around the magic part. They'll they'll substitute something else for it.

SPEAKER_02 53:03

Yeah, I'm sure we could get some flying brooms. We could figure that out.

SPEAKER_00 53:07

You could you could uh have them hoisted by a crane or something. Swing them around.

SPEAKER_01 53:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 53:17

That's that's absolutely that'd be a bloodbath. I'd love that. Are you saying you wouldn't watch that? I'd totally watch that. It really comes down who cares who's on the broom. I the crane operators get together. Some guys start swinging their player around, another guy's swinging another one, they crash head on, nothing but a blood splatter everywhere. Yeah, it's just the players mean nothing at that point.

SPEAKER_00 53:51

Not at all. Not at all. Well, here, tell me tell me some other great albums from 76. Oh, we're still back on music. We I thought we were talking about the the centennial coming up. Well, you know what? Do you know what the number one album of 1976 was? Um you've you're you're two out of two so far.

SPEAKER_02 54:11

I know. Why why didn't you let me just go right into the sunset? This this is probably one you should get. And uh there should be music here, I'm thinking. Um I mean, besides the ones we already mentioned, like like rumors.

SPEAKER_00 54:28

Um well rumors was 77.

SPEAKER_02 54:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 54:34

So rock and roll? Rock and roll in general, or by who?

SPEAKER_02 54:40

Yeah. Was it rock and roll?

SPEAKER_00 54:42

Oh yeah, it was.

SPEAKER_02 54:44

So was it a Zeppelin? I don't know. That'd probably be like Zeppelin 4 or something, probably not. No, yeah. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 54:55

Frampton comes alive.

SPEAKER_02 54:57

Oh, so that's what all uh you could have said it was a live album.

SPEAKER_00 55:02

I thought about giving you a hint. I thought, no, this is come on. 76, Frampton Comes Alive, he's got to get this.

SPEAKER_02 55:07

That was the freaking best album, one of the best albums ever.

SPEAKER_00 55:11

Incredibly.

SPEAKER_02 55:13

How he is not more on a pedestal these days, I don't understand.

SPEAKER_00 55:18

Well, you know, it's it's kind of crazy. You remember how he was he was the biggest rock star on the planet at the time of that album. And then he went through a period by the time when you guys had your band together and you were on the verge of actually opening for him at Zack's one day.

SPEAKER_02 55:34

It was gonna happen. It's so funny you say that. Paul just sent me a video today of us at Zach's.

SPEAKER_00 55:43

Is that right?

SPEAKER_02 55:44

A video? Yeah, I didn't know I didn't know it existed. I don't think he did either. He just found it.

SPEAKER_00 55:49

Oh, wow. I found it helped through a friend that took a phone there.

SPEAKER_02 55:53

Well, I have no idea. Literally, while we were talking, he sent it.

SPEAKER_00 55:56

Wow, that's pretty awesome. Then it's like he he came back though. I mean, he was at the time of that, a little bit later, he was doing uh county fairs. And now he's back as a headliner again. He's a headliner? Yeah, no, he'd not doing stadiums or arenas, but yeah, smaller, smaller venues.

SPEAKER_02 56:17

He was fantastic, man. His songs were fantastic.

SPEAKER_00 56:20

Well, did you did you like? I mean, his earlier work with Humble Pie was great too. Did you ever listen to any Humble Pie?

SPEAKER_02 56:26

I never realized. I I think I did I knew that at one point that he was part of that, but I'd forgotten until now.

SPEAKER_00 56:33

Yeah, really good stuff. Really good stuff. So I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you a couple of give you a couple of choices, okay?

SPEAKER_02 56:40

Of what?

SPEAKER_00 56:42

Places that you could have, if you had your choice, which one would you have gone to on July 4th, 1976, to celebrate?

SPEAKER_02 56:50

Okay, I was nine. Do I have to keep that in mind?

SPEAKER_00 56:53

No, it's no. You don't have to be nine. I mean, if if you were, let's just say you were a because I just want ice cream. If you were a grown adult and you wanted to go somewhere to celebrate the 4th of July, and is it's the 4th of July 1976. 1976. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 57:10

Okay. It's going to be based upon chicks.

SPEAKER_00 57:13

There were two big concerts, two big concerts going on in Tennessee on the 4th of July. You could have gone to the Nashville State Fairgrounds to see Peter Frampton with Gary Wright opening up for him. Oh or you could have stayed within state and gone to Memphis to see ZZ Top, Leonard Skinnard, and Blue Oyster Colt. Where are you going?

SPEAKER_02 57:40

I'm going, I'm going to go see Gary Wright and Peter Frampton.

SPEAKER_00 57:43

There you go. I'm with you. Of course, I was never, you know, this. I was never a ZZ Top guy or a Leonard Skinner guy.

SPEAKER_02 57:50

I I I I aga I'm still not a Leonard Skinner guy. Uh Z Top, I appreciate much more now.

SPEAKER_00 57:57

I yeah, I know you do. I I mean, I'm okay. I owned Guayo. That's the only Leonard uh ZZ Top album I own. Well, and it's got to be a good one.

SPEAKER_02 58:05

Their old stuff was was amazing, but I know they had to go make money. So, you know, when they went eliminated her out, they had to do it, right? And they made a shitload of money.

SPEAKER_00 58:13

Yeah. I I was just that was just never me. To me, that the to me, the headliner of that show should have been Blue Oyster Cult, just to hear um to see Will Farrell hit hit uh Bell. Well, just just to hear Don't Fear the Reaper Live, which I I happen to think one of the greatest songs ever, but that's for another show. I think we've even talked about that before. Okay, here's another one. You could have gone to see you could have gone to Winston.

SPEAKER_02 58:42

This is this is a good this is a good show. I like this show.

SPEAKER_00 58:45

You could have gone to Winston, North Carolina to see Aerosmith, and the undercard being Bob Seeger and Jeff Beck. Or you could have gone to CBGB's in New York to see the talking heads that day.

SPEAKER_02 59:01

Okay. So here's my uh this is a great quandary. So here's my take on this. Um so it was uh who was the headliner in the first one?

SPEAKER_00 59:15

Aerosmith.

SPEAKER_02 59:16

Aerosmith. So they had just released uh you already know I you already know I love Aerosmith. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 59:22

There's no toys in the attic yet. This is everything.

SPEAKER_02 59:24

I did not like Bob Seeger at the time. Now I have a much better appreciation for him.

SPEAKER_00 59:31

Well, and this this was a banner year for him. This is the year that night moves came out, the album.

SPEAKER_02 59:35

I know, but it but I was never a guy, I was never that guy. Totally change nail. He was he was a brilliant, brilliant um songwriter and singer. Um Jeff Beck, I probably I think I knew about him. Well, not in 76, not when I was nine. I didn't know about him until the 80s. I mean, just a frick, freaking, he's the musician's musician. Yeah right. Not not like you go to hear, like, oh, I this is my favorite song. You just go to see talent on a guitar.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:07

Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:08

That that that so now where I'm at, I would have gone to that. And and I there's another reason why I'd go to that. Now where I'm at, being as old as I am, I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever want to have to go to the bathroom in CBGB's. So I'm not doing that.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:33

Did you did you see the movie about CBGBs?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:36

I did.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:36

Yeah, with Alan Rickman?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:38

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:42

Okay, here's another. Here's another. You're gonna like this one. Okay, you could have gone to Tulsa, Oklahoma to see the king, Elvis Presley.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:56

Okay, I I got that reference. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:59

And uh that was uh just less than a year before he passed.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:03

76. 76. So he he's a little bloated and just out of the diamond outfit, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:10

Yeah, or you could have gone to the Stone Pony in New Jersey to see Springsteen and Southside Johnny.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:21

Oh, that's yeah, that's easy. Springsteen all day long.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:25

What about Southside Johnny? You don't like Southside Johnny?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:29

I I don't know, I don't know much about Asbury Jukes, but uh, I get that they were together. That makes total sense. I so here's my Springsteen spiel. Is probably, in my opinion, I'm gonna separate what he is now, politics and all that crap. Probably the best singer songwriter ever lived, in my opinion. I mean, uh greetings Marsbury Park is poetry, and it's put to it's and it's and it's put to an incredible music. And he actually continued that through like another three albums. He oh, he did it maybe before he got pop.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:08

I think everything he did from greetings all the way through his solo album Brilliant Disguise, and that includes Nebraska and um and uh Born in the Fourth of July, all that, and all that earlier stuff, Born to Run. It even the pop stuff was really good. I I don't like anything he did after Brilliant Disguise.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:32

But no, but like are you talking about like I I consider like a born in the Fourth of July album pop. And that was good.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:38

That that was still really good. Were you with me the day that we stood it I stood in line at the at Bradley Shop Center to buy that album?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:45

I could be. I don't I don't remember it.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:47

That I was living at uh Tall Tree at the time, but I thought I think I thought you were with me, and that line came out of Kent Mill around the around the the corner there where the where the uh theater was I used to work at. Yeah, all the way up the arm and around the around to the 7-Eleven. Wow. I was I was towards the front of that line, but uh yeah, I stood in line to buy that. The only two times I ever stood in line to buy an album. I know you were with me the first time. That was to buy some girls at Harmony Hut at Springfield Mall.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:15

Oh, yeah, I remember that. We both bought the same album, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I remember that. And I'm I so still so sad I got rid of that.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:22

Um well, I've I've probably got a couple of copies of that if you want one. I could probably one once once it I can dig it out, I'll send you a copy.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:31

Well, and and for those listening, I'm sure most people know that they would the day you bought it, you got all the pictures, and later on they were blacked out for the people that sued them, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:03:42

Yes, and that's that kind of pisses me off too, because that one that has all the pictures still there, I've got like two or three copies of that, and it's not worth what you would think. It's still not worth much, it's worth about $35.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:55

People were thinking it's worth a lot of money, it's not.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:57

Yeah, it's worth about $35. The ones with the uh the under construction uh blot out um worth about $25. So it's just like a $10 difference.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:07

That pisses me off.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:08

Yeah, me too. Okay, I think I've got one more of these. These are fun. I wish I had more of them. Okay, so you can choose between going to the Rockford Speedway in Love's Park, Illinois to see Foghat, Ted Nugent, and Rick Derringer. Or you can fly overseas to England to a place called the Roundhouse to watch the Ramones.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:47

Okay, so can we take like the flying overseas out of it? Because that'd be cool just to fly overseas, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:56

But you would have to, that's where they were.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:59

I got you. Um, I I would rather I I mean I'd want to see the Ramones no matter where they were.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:05

Yeah, yeah. That that never got old. Seeing the Ramones are just awesome. And that that's kind of historic, too. That was that was July 4th, 76. The Ramones playing.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:17

Can I peel that back a little bit unless they were at CBGB's?

SPEAKER_00 1:05:21

Oh, unless they were at C BGBs. Okay, yeah. I wouldn't put you through that. Okay. You might catch something going in there.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:28

I just I just need to use the restroom every now and then, and I don't want to go there.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:36

In real life, um I wish some of the bathrooms that I've been in could have been C BGBs. At least I could have said I went to C BGBs. Because I've got some really bad bathrooms.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:48

Oh yes. Oh yes. I'm with you.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:51

Over the years.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:52

At least it was worth it, kind of.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:55

Yeah. You got to see the Ramones or Blondie or Talking Heads or the Dead Boys.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:00

C BGBs, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:01

Television, somebody in the early stages. Um that Ramones show is prehistoric in that there was people from two different bands in the audience that day to see the Ramones. Can you name those two bands?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:17

I bet you one of them was a clash.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:19

One of them was the clash, yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:21

And the other had to be um sex pistols.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:24

Yes, yes, it was. And the next day the Ramones met both met those two bands.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:32

Interesting. So they were up and coming bands at the time.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:36

Well, those those guys, uh the clash and the sex pistols, from everything I've been able to gather from the stuff I've read over the years, they uh they pretty much formed out of their love for the Ramones. The Ramones were like they were the granddaddy.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:50

Well, I always thought of the clash a little bit more uh you know, would fall in line a little bit more than the sex pistols would.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:02

Yeah. I would have if I ever if I'm around when they do invent a Wayback Machine, that's that's one of the things I would do is I'd go back and see all three of these bands in their earliest stages. I think that would be incredible.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:14

That'd be very cool. I totally agree.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:17

Other great stuff came out, 76. Uh, a new world record by ELO.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:24

ELO, they were, you know, Jeff Flynn, right? Jeff Flynn. He was he was pretty freaking ahead of his time. He did he did some good, he did some good shit.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:37

Great producer as well, well respected by like all the guys from Travel and Wheelberries, McCartney and Harrison both had great respect for him.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:45

I I remember Saturday mor Saturday morning TV when I was really young. I don't know what it was, but there was something that they were on, and they were they were playing their big hit at the time, and they all had like different color cellos and violins that are all electric. Yeah, it was pretty cool.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:07

That um I went to see Yello in support of that record that year at the old Capitol Center. It was it was a fantastic show.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:18

I went there with Dun. I think even today people like them. Even my daughter, my daughter loves them.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:25

Yeah, they really are. Yeah. Um groundbreaking albums, uh uh Jailbreak, Thin Lizzie came out that year.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:36

Oh my god. So Thin Lizzie, that that's a weird story. That one. Have you have you watched anything on that? Yes. I haven't seen any documents. The black Irishman? Yeah. Yeah. It's so you would never guess it. Anybody that's listening to this right now, and I just said that, if you're surprised, it's a black Irish guy is the lead singer for Thin Lizzie and put all that together. I mean, it's you would never guess that. One of my favorite songs is uh The Boys Are Back in Town. That's a freaking fantastic song.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:07

Yes. Well, oh, the the title cut is pretty darn good, too. I remember that was one of the first albums I think I ever received from Columbia House or RCA Music Service. I don't know which one. Oh, okay. But it came in the mail. Um, Wing, Speed of Sound.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:23

So the Beatles were represented there, as well as freaking great album. That had bands that didn't have Bandal Run.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:30

I had um Silly Love Songs and Let Them In. Okay, yeah, those I love those songs. They were a little pop ish, but I love them. Great pop songs, silly love songs at the time, one of the biggest selling singles ever.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:44

That was good stuff.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:45

I heard Let It Let Them In on um on Sirius XM the other day, and I was I was really I was jamming out to it. Loved it. I I will never turn it off. Oh no, you can't. Um David Bowie's Station to Station and the introduction to his his thin white Duke era Duke era.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:01

My wife's gonna give me a hard time on this one. Never been a Bowie fan.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:04

Really? I I I yeah, I loved every phase of his career. Incredible. I thought he was incredible.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:11

Um, I I'll give him props. I've just never been a fan.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:15

Uh Stevie Wonder Songs and the Key of Life, a great uh jazz soul fusion album.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:20

Yeah, that guy's a moron. I hate that guy.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:22

You don't like Stevie Wonder?

SPEAKER_02 1:10:23

I'm kidding. I'm totally kidding.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:26

I'm not really a fan of all of his work. I have great respect for him, but uh the Songs and the Key of Life is the only Stevie Wonder album I have ever owned, and I'm glad I have it. It's it's a great piece of work.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:40

There's there's a couple of songs of his I really like.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:43

Uh, Warren Zevon's second album, which was self-titled. I don't know why he waited until the second album to do that. But as time would go on, it would become more like uh almost like a greatest hits album, kind of a Zevon. You love Warren Zevon. It had Mohammed's Radio, Hasten Down the Wind, Poor Poor Pitiful Me. Just about half of the songs Z Von ever wrote or recorded, Linda Ronstadt covered. And there's two of them right there with Hasten Down the Wind and uh Poor Poor Pitiful Me.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:13

Covered like in collaboration with him or something.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:16

No, covered just covered his stuff.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:19

They were all part of that SoCal thing down there.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:22

Oh, yeah, oh yeah, like the Eagles and everything. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:24

Yeah. Eagles and Jackson Brown. Yep, yeah. Poco, Jackson Brown, J.D. Southern. They were all tight. Um Bob Singer's night moves, we talked about that. Al Stewart's Year of the Cat, 1976.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:37

I told you about my flop with that singing at a karaoke. Yeah, it didn't go well at all.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:44

What's he doing up here? Is that a song?

SPEAKER_00 1:11:48

Well, we talked about the Eagles a little bit earlier, too. Eagles also put out two albums like KISS did in 76. Uh, the second one being right there at the tail end, Hotel California. But at the very beginning of the year, they released the Eagles' greatest hits, their first compilation album, 71 to 75.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:07

It was like the denim blue looking album thing with the thing in the middle. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:11

Yeah. Highest selling album of all time. It's the first and only album so far to go what they call Quad Diamond, which happened earlier this year. 40 million records sold.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:24

Oh, wow. Okay. That album perplexed me a little bit because is that the one that had Witchy Woman on it? Yeah.

unknown 1:12:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:34

That song like freaked me out a little bit when I was little. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:39

But people fell in love with that album. And if you might remember from the early days of when we were listening to Casey Caseon's American Top 40, um, I remember being in the LT LTD one morning listening to that on the way after dad picked us up. And he was talking, one of these songs was on there, and they were talking about how the Eagles were actually a crossover band. They were they were actually a country band. Oh, yeah, absolutely. It became a rock band. And so they appealed to both sides of the aisle and they sold a hell of a lot of records.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:08

So it was um Glenn Fry and uh who's the main guy? Uh Don Henley. Don Henley. I think Don Henley was Linda Ronsatt's drummer, and Glenn Fry was her manager, and they went and started the Eagles.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:21

Yeah. You know who else was in uh Linda Ronsstatt's band later who went out on his own? You remember Andrew Gold?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:28

No.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:28

You don't? The song Thank You, which um became a big one.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:34

You didn't have to do it like you do.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:36

Not that thank you.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:37

Not that's CZ top.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:40

You remember that song that was the theme song for the Golden Girls?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:45

Oh no, I don't.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:47

You don't?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:48

That's sad because that came off.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:50

That was that was not the same version, but that was Andrew Gold's big hit. And the other one was the one about the um Thank You for Being a Friend or something? Thank you for being a friend, yeah. That one.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:01

And the other one was the one about the uh the kid who got pissed off because his parents had a had a baby sister and forgot him. Oh gosh, I can't remember how it goes or what it was called. Man, great song, too. I mean, it's kind of sad, but really good song. Anyway, doesn't matter. We'll go we'll talk about that someday. Someday Manfred Mann's Earth Band, Roaring Silence, which did the cover of um the Springsteen song. Great, incredible version.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:31

Blinded by the light.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:32

Blinded by the light. Incredible. That was a good one.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:34

I go back and forth. I go back and forth. They did a really good job with it. And that's how I knew it. That's how I knew at first. That is what made me find Bruce Springsteen's Greetings from Zasbury Park, was listening to the original version of that. And then I fell in love with that album, Greetings from Asbury Park. And that made me realize how much of a genius Bruce Springsteen really was.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:01

He is.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:27

Nobody else could have done it. That's my point with that.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:32

You know, you I you said poetry, and it reminded me of something I wanted to say earlier. We talked about Phil Linet and um Ten Lizzie. Somewhere in my pile of stuff, I have poetry book by, and it's really beat up, and it's old by Phil Linet, and it's his poetry, and it's signed, but I have no way of authenticating that signature. I don't know if it's real or not.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:54

I think what I saw I saw a little documentary on him, and I think he just flailed, right, to do anything he possibly could to have some sort of career in music, being in front of people, whatever the hell it was. So that makes sense to me. He and and I think he he, I mean, it's kind of weird to say like um he made it because of you know, Then Lizzie is the pinnacle, because they weren't that prolific, right? But he there was a lot of struggle behind that for him to get there.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:31

Yeah. Um Jackson Brown, the Pretender, fantastic album.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:36

Jackson Brown can do no wrong, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:39

Uh me either. Boss Skags Silk Degrees, Steely Gags.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:43

Boss Skags, give me a song by Boss Skags. Lowdown? Uh is it Lowdown? Okay. Leto, miss. Yeah, Leto is the one I was thinking of, yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:54

Uh Steely Dance, a Royal Scam. That came out in 76? Yeah. Uh Queen's A Day at the Races. Genesis, a trick of the Tale, the only non-Peter Gabriel Genesis album that I like. It was the first um album after Gabriel's departure. Give me one.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:18

Give me one famous Genesis Peter Gabriel song.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:22

I can't. I I I don't know the name, I don't know the names. It's more of an album rock concept concept.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:27

That's my point. That that was my point, is I want to like give props to the Peter Gabriel days of Genesis, but I can't point to a song.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:36

Well, then listen to listen to the The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway. It's a double live album. So uh you'll be a fan.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:42

It's not Peter Gabriel, I don't think, but my favorite Genesis song ever is Illegal Alien.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:49

Yeah, you see, I none of that stuff does it for me.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:51

Uhlegal Alien rocks. I love that song.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:55

Um Bob Dylan Desire came out that year. God, how old was he then? I don't know, but he, in my opinion, is the greatest singer-songwriter of all time.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:06

You know, I I'll give you that, I'll give you that that's not an uneducated opinion.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:16

I I've over the years, I've always liked Dylan, and over the last 20 years or so, I've I've listened to his stuff much deeper, especially the deeper cuts that weren't songs you're that we're the average listener is really familiar with. And that's where you really start to understand that son of a bitch can write.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:34

Again, I'll give you that that's not an uneducated opinion. Um here's my okay, I'm gonna dive into that deeper. Hold on.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:48

So I he had some things that I like, some things I like a lot. And I get that everybody would say exactly what you said. But not ever it's not like everything that comes out of his frickin' mouth is a golden nugget. No, you're right.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:10

A lot of it's not likable. Uh there's some of it that's uh if I want to hear about but you really gotta listen to the lyrics, I think.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:20

But yeah, yeah, if you want to spew about the current political climate and what have you, and you you and you say it in a way that is very eloquent and the words you're using and and and uh the I don't know, the the uh timing of what you use with whatever poetry is iamic pentameter or whatever the hell it is, cool. That doesn't mean I agree with you or like it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:46

Um, I save these last two for last. Well, that makes sense because uh they're they're the ones that are really big for me and important to me. Um, one of them is also incredibly important to one of your best friends, somebody who I I like and respect as well. I have a best friend. Well, you had you have several best friends, but this this is somebody that that's one of your very best friends.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:12

I do yeah, I just cheered up a little bit inside. My heart grew two sizes that day, this day. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:20

Uh The Stones, Black and Blue, came out in 76.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:24

Best, one of the best albums. It's my it's one of my island albums, yes, for sure.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:29

It is it is, in my opinion, the greatest Rolling Stones album and one of my top five albums ever, period.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:35

And I know what frame you're talking about now, sure. Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:38

And uh that album, it is the one album that from the 70s to now has continually been in my playlist as far as playing an entire album. I do it regularly.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:52

I want it, I literally want to turn it on right now.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:55

It's it's incredible. The whole thing is incredible. I don't understand why it doesn't get the full credit it deserves. It is, I think it's a masterpiece.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:02

Well, I think Hey Nigreta probably stopped it from getting super popular now.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:07

Maybe the other one, okay, and this this one is uh this one a lot of people will disagree with me on, but this one is my also my favorite album of this band, and it doesn't get the credit I think it deserves. And that's Led Zeppelin's Presence. I adore that album. Give me, I I don't know the album that well. What's Achilles Last Stand, Hots On for Nowhere, Nobody's Fault But Mine.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:30

And it's funny you say the names. I I can't, I don't know any names of any of Led Zeppelin songs. They're all so esoteric, the names versus what the songs are.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:41

Incredible album, every every cut. And they're all they're all very long, like Achilles Last Stand is like 11 minutes.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:47

There, there's no Led Zeppelin album or song. It's not great. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:54

I would tend to agree with that, but for me, that was their best.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:56

They were you think about it, they're basically a trio in Robert Plant singing. That trio of the musicians, oh my god, yeah, how good they were.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:08

Yeah. They uh those two rec those two have been in my top five probably for as long as I can remember, and they both came from 76. So it can't be a bad year.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:18

I did not realize that black and blue was 76. That that literally, I so you know, that was I think we talked about this on music episode. It was the first rock media I ever had, which was an eight-track tape.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:33

Yeah, I loved I loved uh Rolling Stones stuff from that era because they had to be different.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:39

They came with the they came in the pink plastic uh it was pink, it was pink with a black label. It was awesome.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:45

And the cover over it was side load instead of instead of pool-on load.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:49

I don't remember the cover, I just remember the pink, the pink egg track. Yeah, yeah. And of course, I bought the album later. It was awesome. And I did, I I did introduce it to our friend, and he's like, oh my god, the best album ever.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:02

Just incredible. That's pretty much it. It for music that year. That's all I have for that. Well, that was a lot. It was a lot, and I dig it. Hey, you know, I've got uh I've got one more concert from that that day, uh, 4th of July 1976, that I think I I don't think correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think I mentioned it. You could have gone that day to uh the the brand new Tampa Stadium in Tampa, Florida to see the Eagles headlining backed up by Fleetwood Mack, Loggins and Messina, and Dan Fogelberg.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:40

I would deal with the first two.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:43

Yeah, that isn't that crazy too that at that time, one year later, if that show had taken place, Fleetwood Mac would have been the would have been the uh the high billing, I think.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:54

I mean, Dan Fogelberg, I think I could deal with uh Logins of Messina, I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:59

Really? I I would like Loggins of Messina better than Dan Fogelberg. Um you don't like your mama don't dance? No, I like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:07

What did Messina ever do without Loggins?

SPEAKER_00 1:24:09

Nothing. Well, he was in Poco, the band Poco.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:14

I have no idea what that is.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:16

But uh yeah, all right.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:18

So okay, we're gonna we should do our skit now. Hey, um, I'll I'll be Kenny Loggins. Hey, I just got a uh an offer to do uh this movie uh thing, and I'm I wrote a bunch of songs for it. So uh cool, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:35

Is all right am I what are we gonna do? Tell me all about it.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:38

Yeah, uh that that's actually really what I wanted to talk to you about. It's not a we thing, it's a me thing. Kenny, what what did what do you mean? Well, I mean like I think I think there's a chance that you know what we were really good together, and I I would never replace yeah, yeah, yeah. You're great. You are doing great. I I'm holding you back. I really think you should Kenny. I was in Poco for Pete's sake. That yeah, that's a good point. And what I think you should do is go talk to them.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:11

I don't know. They finally had a million seller with Heart of the Night, so I don't know. Yeah, and you know what? They're gonna get more millions with you. Oh man, I'd I I I can't believe this. Come on, Kenny, you remember like the house. I was wondering.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:32

I really thought you would wish me luck on this. I I I don't know. I got like this thing. I I just feel like I gotta go into the danger zone.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:41

Yeah, for you, Kenny, Dick. You're gonna go make millions of those movies, movie tunes, huh? What do you have, like four in a row that hit the that were all hit number one?

SPEAKER_02 1:25:56

Yeah, probably the first one was um alright. Don't need to worry about me. When that um that was uh stripes or no, um that was Gaddishack.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:08

I used to for a long time I used to get it confused with I thought that um Holiday Road from uh uh the national. He wrote that. I I thought he did write that. Well, that was Lindsay Buckingham. Oh, that was Lindsey Buckingham, you're right. I'll say this. He is he is so great, he is so fantastic. It took two really great guitarists to replace them when they kicked him out. Neil Finn and Mike Campbell.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:35

Yeah, completely agree. But it and it didn't replace his songwriting and and management capability. I mean, and I say management that he didn't want to be, but he's the only one that everybody was just off doing drugs and their own thing. He's like, oh my god, guys, we have an album to put out.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:53

Yeah, yeah, he kept them together for a while anyway. Um, and he had such a cool perm. Yeah, that that that never really did it for me, but you know, okay. It did it for what's her name? I don't know. The look, the look, his look never did it for me. I never wanted to look like him, but I sure as hell wanted to be, I mean, in my fantasies, be a rock star like him. He was incredible.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:20

He was incredible. Yeah, I don't know if I ever want to be a rock star. If I was ever gonna be famous, it would be rock, it would be a rock star, it wouldn't be acting. I'm looking at now, like when I watch movies and stuff, like that's gotta be hard to like, okay, okay, now turn and uh say this to her and then look like you're on this boat going really fast, you know, or something like that. You don't see the you don't see the final product for like a year, you know? Yeah, yeah. Where rock and roll, you're on a stage, it's immediate gratification.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:53

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:54

Yeah, because you're getting you walk off, you walk off the set on a movie, like. Did we rock that scene or what? I don't know. I guess we'll know in a year. And we walk off the stage. We rocked that, right? You're damn right we did.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:09

Every time you've you've hit that that right hit it just right, and you go, okay, that's it. That's that's the one, that's the take we're gonna use. Or you you're on that stage and you're walking off the stage. It's gotta be like overdosing on dopamine hits constantly. But you mean in rock and roll? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:27

Yeah. Oh yeah. I mean, and that's that's the high they chase all the time. That's why they all end up doing drugs, probably, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:28:33

Could be, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:35

Yeah. Ah, we suck tonight. That's okay. I got a bunch of coke.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:40

We'll get there one way or another.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:42

Yeah, right? We'll feel good in a couple hours.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:46

And we've got all these, um, we get all all the all these girls from the front row that want to come back and see us too. So, yeah, we're gonna find our way.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:53

Let's not go there.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:54

Let's not go there. Check IDs. All right. Well, I don't know what I don't know what you're thinking, but I feel like we pummeled, we pummeled uh our extravaganza.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:08

I don't think we pummeled. I think we pummeled music as one part of the extravagant promise extravaganza.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:16

Well, what else? We can talk about others. You want to talk about what? We talked about fireworks a little bit. We can talk about hot dogs and apple pie. We could talk about bunting and banners. Um what was the okay we talked about? We're talking about uncle Sam.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:29

What's the best hot dog you ever had?

SPEAKER_00 1:29:31

Honestly, the best hot dog I ever had was from a vendor on the streets of Atlantic City.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:36

I I totally get that. So um I I I the best Atlantic City, best hot dog?

SPEAKER_00 1:29:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:44

Vend vendor on the side of the street. I think any good hot dog comes from the vendor on the side of the street that have been boiling in that water for hours. Yeah. Uh and it my family doesn't get it.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:58

I've had um I've had pretty good ones in the same situation from vendors with their carts in DC as well, but I don't know what it is, what it was about the ones with the ones in Atlantic City. They seemed like they were a cut above.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:10

So my family will not eat a boiled hot dog. That's crazy. Like that's the only way to cook them. Even like I literally will have a hot dog or two a week. And I'll cook them myself and I boil the water and I put them in there.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:26

And they they they they want to grill them.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:30

They're good off the grill as well, and they're they're good from the vendors at the ballpark. But that that um those vendor cart hot dogs, they're boiled are are incredible.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:41

Well, and they have like, and so I've I've chased the onion thing, and I can't get it. It's like the the finely diced, watery onions that you put on it. Uh I I've tried to make that and recreate it. I can't get it, but I get close, but it's not quite there. So I I I I chase that. Um but what really uh drives me nuts is they not only will grill the hot dogs and put ketchup on it. And I can't do that.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:11

I know ketchup. Uh we have this argument here in my house all the time. I said, you you people are crazy. Um, mustard was meant for hot dogs, and ketchup is meant for hamburgers. And these things should not cross. This is that's like putting pineapple in a pizza. It shouldn't happen.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:29

Yeah, and and you can so hey, here's a great hot dog with mustard. You put ketchup on it, it's some exotic thing. I don't even know what the fuck it is anymore. You could you can call that whatever you want, but it ain't hot going.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:45

Do you like kraut on a hot dog?

SPEAKER_02 1:31:47

I do. I'll buy it. If there's if there's good kraut, I'll I'll try to find it. I'll buy some and keep that around. And Tina will eat that too. My family will do the kraut and a hot dog.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:58

When I had the sports collectibles shop in Ocaquan for a short time, there was a there was a lady around the corner on the main drag in Ocaquan, and it it was and it was literally looked like a look like going to a county fair place where you walk up to the counter and get it. It's just just a little lean to shack just about you walk up to the counter, put your order in. Kraut dogs, I'd get it one just about every day. Incredible.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:25

Man, now I want to listen to uh what was I gonna listen to? Black and blue, and I'm gonna make some hot dogs. Sounds very nice.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:34

You know, talking about it's the right time of year, this reminded me. That's something that's associated with the 4th of July. Isn't this the weekend that Nathan's has their hot dog eating contest with that weirdo who eats all those hot dogs every breaks his own record?

SPEAKER_02 1:32:48

Japanese, the Japanese guy?

SPEAKER_00 1:32:50

He's not Japanese though. Is he he has a Japanese name, but he's not Japanese.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:54

Oh, well, I mean, but he has blonde hair, he's like a skinny looking guy.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:59

Kobiaski or yeah, it's like Kobeyashi.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:02

I think is his name.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:04

Yeah, but he's the other guy. The American, there's the American guy, too. The American guy keeps marking.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:08

Okay, well, Kobayashi, if if we're not talking about like that that that movie with uh uh usual suspects yeah, the usual suspects. It's it's the hot dog eating guy.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:25

Yeah, we don't we don't want the Kobayashi from it. From usual suspects, he's a mean son of a bitch.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:31

Yeah, he's and he he pretends he limps around and is part of the gang. Yeah, he's a scary dude.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:38

What what was that name they called him? I thought it was Kobayashi.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:42

No, no, no, no, the name that they they called him when he was in his pers in his persona as the as the I it was something unassuming, Frank, or or like a Gemp. It was something like that.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:54

No Gimpy or the Gimp. They didn't refer to him as the GIMP, but he had a name. I can't remember the name. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:02

I don't know. Great movie, though. And I there is nothing better than when he looks at the bulletin board after he leaves and see all sees all those names that he drops that cup in slow motion floor. Drops the cup to sit baiting by Kobayashi and Jay.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:20

The the uh what was the the quartet, the uh barbershop quartet in Muscovia was yeah, and when it's going and then like and then uh he was like orca fat, you know, it's a picture of a whale.

unknown 1:34:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:36

He was a that was a great year. What didn't that and N uh 7 come out in the same year? That was a great year for him.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:44

It's the same, it's you know, I I thought he was one of fantastic actor. It sucks that he did what he did and he's canceled. It's a su I I I would watch a movie because he was in it.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:56

Oh, yeah, yeah. Incredible.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:58

Negotiator, negotiator is one of my favorite movies.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:01

Uh American Beauty.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:03

I didn't love that movie, but yeah, so so yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:07

Yeah, he was a great I and I didn't like that K-Pax. That movie I hated. I thought it sucked. That movie was weird.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:13

I didn't care about that one. So he ate bananas or something like that.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:17

Yeah. Is any bananas weird?

SPEAKER_02 1:35:20

Well that's my point is the only thing I've never gonna eat bananas.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:26

Stupid ass movie.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:29

This is a good movie. Wait, what the fuck is he doing? Okay, I'm out. What else is on?

SPEAKER_00 1:35:40

Yeah, he lost everything too. That's a shame.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:43

Yeah. Well, I mean, it's not a shame because he's a dick.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:46

Well, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:47

Yeah. It's a shame that I I lost an actor that I really appreciated.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:53

Yeah, everybody did because I think I he was everybody thought pretty much the same thing of him.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:58

And what was the show on Netflix? That that was his last hurrah. Kind of it was huge, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:36:03

House of Cards.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:04

House of Cards. I mean, that was like the first Benjable kind of thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:09

He was very pro-benjeble. He wanted everything to be released right away.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:12

He he had whole speeches around it. Yeah. What a shame.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:17

Terrible.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:18

Um, so we start we got off on a tangent on hot dogs because I was trying to do something more than just music for the bicentennial. So hot dogs, big one, right? Yeah, everybody's eating hot dogs. Um, I I had a couple of things I did want to talk about, so I'm not done with the episode. Okay. Um, parades.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:37

Yeah, parades are big on big on the footage.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:39

Okay, so do you have any early memories of parades?

SPEAKER_00 1:36:42

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:42

Okay, none?

SPEAKER_00 1:36:44

No, and most well, it's probably something that I've conflated with others. There's that word again.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:52

You can conflagrate, you conflated.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:54

Yeah. Um, because I remember I have a lot of parade memories, but I think it was a mixture of or an amalgam, whatever you want to call it. Yeah. The Fourth of July and Christmas parades and things like that, not just not just necessarily the fourth. I know that Warrington used to have that big parade that went down Main Street and down Waterloo Street, and it was a big deal. And I was even in it one year and when I was you probably were too. I was in it the one year that I was at uh in uh kindergarten because they had a float. Did you have a floating?

SPEAKER_02 1:37:25

I was a fetus.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:26

No, but you also went, we discussed this recently too. You also went to the same kindergarten I did, dot Suddith, right? Yeah, yeah. And did did they have a uh uh float in that parade that year when you were there?

SPEAKER_02 1:37:40

I have no freaking idea, dude. That that was the turbulent times.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:44

Yes, it was, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:46

I was getting picked up in construction trucks with machines on the back from at the end of school by whoever.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:56

Really? Yeah, I don't think we've ever talked about that.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:00

I remember well, I mean it wasn't a bad thing, but um, yeah, but it's just odd that I've never there'd be a line of the parents to pick up, and there'd be like this big Ditch Witch case machine on a trailer and a white and a white uh utility truck. I'm like, oh yeah, that's me.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:16

And it was Roger Means or Ricky Gill picking you up?

SPEAKER_02 1:38:18

Right, yeah, it's like Ricky Gill. Yeah, wow. Tom Beckmeyer, maybe? I don't that's crazy. God, if it was Tom Beckmeyer, I'd run the other way, but yeah, everybody should. Yeah, God knows what's going on there. Um, but um and get away with that today. Well, where did we so where do we how did we get off on that tangent? We were talking about parades. So parades, um, so I'm going to a parade this weekend. It'll be up in uh the small town of Gramby, Colorado, and we go there every weekend. And we use we go in it a lot. We'll we'll enter it.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:55

Um is that the one that's the golf cards?

SPEAKER_02 1:38:59

It's not just golf cards, it's no, it's a real parade. Okay. It's a small town parade, and this is where I was gonna go. We said at the beginning, like I got something I'll bring up later. Um, so it's a small town parade. So one thing is we have one listener that listens once on a blue moon. He came out to visit us up at Gramby.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:21

And uh Blue Moon. Um Lately, that's how often we do a show, anyway.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:27

Yeah, right. Uh so this is just a couple of years ago, and he came up to visit us in Gramby, and he has this huge, huge van, right? And it's like it's one of those Mercedes, whatever you call them vans, four sprinters, four-wheel drive, beautiful van, but he has American flag decal, like you know, like a wrap all over it. Uh-huh. And he comes up and he's like, Hey, I've always wanted to go to a local parade, you know, it'd be kind of fun. You know, I'd never really been to a small town parade. I go, You're it's your lucky day, man. You're not only going, you're in it. So we we put his van in and we pulled a boat and had all these bubbles going and music, and it was cool. It was it was a very cool experience. But I I go to that parade every year, and it reminds me of um the parade in this movie that confounds me. And that's what I was gonna bring up at the beginning. And the movie that confounds me is the movie Born on the Fourth of July.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:36

Do you know it? I have not seen it. Yes, you have. No, I have Tom movie.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:41

Tom Cruise movie? No, the Tom Cruise movie.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:44

It's it's a strange movie, and I'm not I and I think we talked about this before. I mean, you can say whatever you want about Tom Cruise, great actor, and I'll watch most stuff that he's in because he's in it. That's a weird movie to me, and I can't decide if I like it or dislike it or not have you. But there's a the but there's a at the beginning, there's a big Fourth of July parade in a small town, and that's exactly what this parade's like. I think the movie's about a real person. About a real person.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:11

It is, yeah, I'm pretty sure it is. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:13

And I can't remember the person's name, and I'm sorry, I yeah, I don't mean to cause any defamation of character or anything like that. I just don't know his name, but uh big, big uh protester against Vietnam War, I think.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:27

Yeah. Well, served there first and then became then protest.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:32

Yeah, yeah. And that's what his character is in that movie.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:35

I I Mike, I can't say it's an uncomfortable movie. Yeah. I'm gonna have to watch it someday. I I haven't I've never seen it.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:43

And and you would want to say, like, it's uncomfortable, yeah, because it makes you think. And so because of that's prolific great movie, it's uncomfortable. And it's not that great of a movie, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:55

I can't remember the last time I actually attended a parade.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:03

You need to come up, you need to come up to Gramby next year.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:06

Yeah, that would be fun, kind of, I think. I I I know I would appreciate a parade a hell of a lot more than I would appreciate fireworks. I'm just they just don't do it for me.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:16

So last year at the parade, so they try to coordinate all the small towns in the mountains because they all have the parades the same day, I think. In the Air Force somehow, I don't know who does it. They came over. And uh what's that latest fighter we have? The F-8, the F is it the 18?

SPEAKER_00 1:42:38

Is that the stealth fighter?

SPEAKER_02 1:42:40

It's not the stealth, no, it's it's the the the joint strike fighter. I think it's the F-18, I could be wrong, but it came, I mean, it it felt like it was right on top of me. It came like right on top of me, and then turned and did this freaking crazy thing off with the rest of its group. Like, I almost felt like I could see the pilot, it was so low, and I'm like, was in awe. And that was this last year, and this is this is Mike that you know is cynical about everything, and I was like, Holy shit, war machine. Thank god these guys are on our side because that was freaking intimidating as hell.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:26

Yeah, I was I was uh watching uh the Nats in Baltimore yesterday, and the uh the hit umpire behind the plate, he he had to keep stopping the game and calling time out because the blue angels were doing an air show over Baltimore Harbor, and they kept swooping in over the stadium, and it kept it was just the sound was just enormous. You could even tell watching it on television, they couldn't hear balls and strikes, or they had so several times they had to stop play for that. I've never seen that before.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:00

That's interesting. It was super cool. I I I I literally walked away with like an appreciation for spending a lot of money on military hardware so nobody will ever fuck with us. Peace through strength. Yeah, so um that's my parade thing. We talked about hot dogs. Um, the fireworks, I'm kind of I'm kind of done with the fireworks. I was done with them early on, and and especially like you know, where I live, especially where I live being out here in a in basically what is a desert, you know. Like if you think about it, Colorado is basically a desert. Yeah, and and and on the city. It's funny because I think of it as mountains, and it it's like they call it a rain shadow desert because the mountains trap all of the moisture, yeah. So anything after that east doesn't get any moisture, right? Because it all fell in the mountains, so um, it's just so dry, just a spark. You're gonna get wildfires all day long and it's gonna be uncontrollable. So uh, but anyway, fireworks just don't do it for me anyway. If there's something really cool and they have that multiple thing that does something that's kind of cool, well, I'm I'm ready to move on from it. Yeah, I don't need that.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:19

I I I have not enjoyed fireworks since I was probably pre-teen, actually. I've just it's never been my thing. Now, here we live really close to um where the Frednats play, the minor league uh single a team to the Washington Nationals. Uh, and every Friday night that they're that they play at home, they have a firework display. And you can you can actually see and hear it from our backyard. And it's it's very impressive. They do a great job. It's just not for me, you know. Have you seen a drone show? I have not seen a drone show, other than the ones that were everybody was asking about earlier when nobody knew where they were coming from earlier this year. What? Oh, you didn't know about that all over the east coast, especially up in the New Jersey area. Drones were showing up everywhere and and people were freaking out because they didn't know where they were from, and they never did we nobody ever got a um a definitive answer really on where they were from or why.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:15

That I I thought that was like many years ago, like no two or three years ago.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:19

No, it might have been the it might have been the tail end of last year, first part of this year. Wasn't that long ago.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:25

Uh so no drone shows are the way to go. They can do anything with them. And different colors, they can form any shape they want. It's pretty interesting. They do it here in uh they do it for Christmas here in Denver. A big drone show every night.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:41

You know what's even cooler than that? If you go back to 1976, you could go to a theater and see laser shows while they played while they played Pink Floyd in the back. Isn't that cool, man? Whoa! And Dave's not here, man. Past the doobie. Yeah. All right, are we done? I think that might do it. Okay. All right, so we're taking us out now.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:14

You should take us out.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:15

I I I think uh I think we achieved what we wanted to achieve here today. We we're we've we've put the torch into the ground and we've claimed that we are still here. Do not uh do not think that we have gone anywhere or that we no longer exist. We're around, and that was our extravaganza to let you know the tideover episode, and we've got a lot more coming soon. So watch the Facebook page. We're doing more and more with it. We'll keep you up up to uh up to stuff on what's going on.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:43

All right, yeah, and don't discount us. We'll see you soon. Thanks.