Developing an Abundant Mindset

In this captivating episode of the Bliss Talk Podcast, host Deborah Tyson is joined by Michelle Murphy, the visionary founder of Kali Devi Energetics, to delve into the profound concept of developing an abundant mindset. As many navigate through times of fear and instability, Michelle offers a refreshing perspective on how embracing abundance can serve as a beacon of stability and inner peace.

Michelle passionately discusses the sacred relationship between individuals and their sense of value, emphasizing that abundance is not merely a financial state but a frequency of love, kindness, and compassion. By redefining abundance as an energy we embody, rather than a dollar figure, listeners are invited to transform their relationship with wealth and self-worth.

Throughout the episode, Michelle shares her journey from the corporate world to becoming a spiritual guide, highlighting the importance of soul alignment and self-love. She provides practical advice on how to shift focus from scarcity to abundance, encouraging listeners to recognize the wealth of time, love, and nature around them. The conversation also touches on the power of gratitude and forgiveness in renovating our relationship with money, offering listeners actionable steps to begin their journey towards an abundant mindset.

Listeners will gain insights into overcoming limiting beliefs and societal pressures that foster scarcity, learning to reconnect with their true nature and source energy. Michelle's wisdom and personal anecdotes serve as a reminder that abundance is our innate nature, and by embracing it, we can navigate life's challenges with grace and resilience.

Join us for an inspiring conversation that not only challenges conventional views on wealth but also empowers you to reclaim your power and live a life of abundance and fulfillment.

#AbundanceMindset #SoulAlignment #PersonalGrowth #SelfLove #Gratitude

Transcript

Deborah Tyson ~ Blisspot Founder and CEO (00:02.044)
So welcome everybody to the Bliss Talk Podcast and I'm absolutely delighted to be here today with Michelle Murphy. Michelle is based in Sydney, Australia where I am so it's quite nice because a lot of our experts are from all over the world to be together in the same place. Michelle is the founder of Kali Devi Energetics and she does wonderful and extremely important work

during these times, which I feel a lot of people are finding quite fearful, unsettling and unstable on abundance, because we really cannot control what's going on out there in the outside world. But one thing we have complete control over, or I will say to be kind to ourselves that we can develop over time because it's a practice, it's a skill like getting fit or being healthy in the food that we eat.

Developing an abundant mindset can give us that stability and that inner control that we need when everything else is so unstable. So I'm absolutely delighted to be here today with Michelle to talk about this very important topic. And as a business activator and sole mentor, Michelle supports...

spiritual entrepreneurs on their path of soul expression through their businesses. Michelle is passionate about the sacred relationship between a business and its owner, knowing that its alignment is paramount to the soul, growth, success, joy, financial abundance, and heart-centered service. So while Michelle is passionate about business, that sacred relationship, really...

applies to all of us. It's our sacred relationship as an individual between ourselves and how we're valued in the world and how we're valued for that in all sorts of ways, including money. So her work goes beyond just business and relates to us as individuals as well. So Michelle, now I'm absolutely delighted to be able to handle to hand over to you and just if you can give our audience a little bit of background about

Michelle ~ Kali Devi (02:14.414)
You

Deborah Tyson ~ Blisspot Founder and CEO (02:21.317)
what it is that you actually do and how you got into this work initially.

Michelle ~ Kali Devi (02:27.362)
Yes, well, firstly, thank you and hello to everybody who's going to hear this or see this at some time now in the future. And thank you, Deborah, for the opportunity to share my passion. And I am very passionate about really helping people through fear. I think fundamentally that's the core of why I do things. And how I fell into this was really me answering the call of my soul.

Basically, it really was about me hearing that whisper and saying yes. And it really did involve a 180 shift. was busy in the accounting world, having a bookkeeping business, and now I have landed in a completely different field using all of those skills where I'm more of a spiritual guide and mentor and

really fundamentally and it's a tough question to ask me, what do you do? Because really, I've thought about this over the years and in a nutshell, what I've really distilled it down to is really what you said in another way and that is bringing people home to love, to self love, to knowing themselves, to trusting themselves, to honoring themselves. And the ways I do that,

Deborah Tyson ~ Blisspot Founder and CEO (03:27.279)
Hehehehe

Michelle ~ Kali Devi (03:51.11)
is through these external expressions of ourselves, our relationships. And one of those relationships which you did focus on was the business relationship, because I see that as a pathway to getting to know ourselves. And the other major one that I really work with is our relationship with money and abundance. And I'm going to say the word money because I think sometimes we cringe a bit in the spiritual world. But really, that's a sign of how we

do struggle with our relationship with money that we don't talk about it. And our relationship with money is a real inner reflection, a real outer reflection of our inner world. So it's a beautiful pathway to get to know ourselves. And so basically to put it in a nutshell, it's about bringing us home to love, to learning to love ourselves again, and really letting go the illusions that we aren't worthy, that we're not good enough, and that we are truly magnificent.

coming back to our true innate nature.

Deborah Tyson ~ Blisspot Founder and CEO (04:51.344)
goodness. just absolutely love that and I love the work you're doing because there is so many there are so many limiting beliefs around money or there's a stigma and people think it's a bad thing or they can do and the way you're you're making it beautiful and like it's abundance is related to part of our true nature. I just love the way that you're reframing that up for people Michelle.

It's beautiful, beautiful work. And what is the biggest problem that most people have when they come to you?

Michelle ~ Kali Devi (05:30.636)
Yeah, in general, it is that lack of direction and clarity. That's the kind of main thing that I see. And with that, purpose, you what am I meant to be doing? Who am I meant to be? They have this kind of moment in their life where they just flounder. And really that moment, I really call transition. They're just transitioning. And then along with that is a lot of financial stress. There is those

blocks and wounds and limitations that we have that really cause the symptoms of feast and famine, you know, not being able to consistently earn an income. Those things of, you know, getting a good income, it all looks like it's coming together and then big bills come and it disappears, like we can't hold on to it. Avoiding monetary goals. You know, sitting in the shame of struggle with finances.

These are all the kind of underlying things that are going on that people come to me for.

Deborah Tyson ~ Blisspot Founder and CEO (06:34.399)
beautiful. There's just so much in everything you say and I love the way you're referring to soul alignment. You know I was some explained to somebody what's the difference between the medical profession and the work that a lot of healers or holistic therapists do and

You know, without modern medicine, my mother recently had open-height surgery, she would have died. know, she just would have died. Modern medicine is a miracle. It extended her life by possibly 10 years. It's absolutely amazing. But I think what you're talking about, which is different, that truly has its place. It's about alignment, soul alignment, coming back to being aligned with our soul. So...

and bringing up all those other things that people do struggle with. It's the shame. It's that thing when everything seems to be starting to go really well and you just have a little bit more money and then there comes the big bill and you know the money's all gone. yes so much in that. So do you think in your opinion that it's actually even possible to have abundance in this?

modern world without being, you know, the head of a multi-million dollar corporation or, you know, a very successful banker or stockbroker or traditionally lawyer those income, those areas that traditionally have earned a lot of income in the past because people at the moment, as you said as well, are living in a lot of fear with the cost of living rising. That is just a true fact and electricity rising.

AI taking over so many people's jobs. That's a fact as well if you look at look at the figures So we're in a time of great upheaval and transition. So do you think it is even possible for people to really? Step into their true abundance

Michelle ~ Kali Devi (08:37.272)
Yes, well, I guess if I take it back one step and really explain what I think abundance is, that might help me answer that as well. And, you know, I touched on it being our innate nature, really abundance is our innate nature. And I see abundance as a frequency, as energy. And that frequency and the frequency of money is love, it's kindness, it's compassion, it's that level.

of frequency. And so when we look at abundance as a frequency and not a dollar figure, or not attaching our situation to money, money is just this energy of love. Abundance is this energy of love. So if you go from that space, and you understand, ultimately, from that soul perspective, that we are source energy.

that we as souls in a human body are source energy and abundance is source energy. So when we understand that we are source energy and the creator of abundance, it really does flip it into another space. gives you the empowerment. gives you the possibility. And so that's kind of taking a very holistic soul kind of view of the world.

But when you bring that down into the situations that we're in, and I don't mean to belittle or make small of anyone's struggles at the moment, but because that is true, as you said, it is a reality, but it's our response to that reality. It's how we want to approach it and move through it. Yes, there'll be times where we don't have enough money in the bank or things are tight. Excuse me.

it's our way of approaching it. And it's how we can shift into a different vibration, understand our patterns, understand the wounds and the triggers that are going to help us navigate this in a much better way. So in answer to that question, yes, it's possible, I do believe it's possible for us to be in a state of abundance, even when we have $0 in the bank, because it's the frequency of love that we're talking about. And so

Michelle ~ Kali Devi (11:05.42)
We've really got to start to learn to not attach our self-worth and our value to the dollars in the bank, because that is causing us the grief that is causing us to sit in scarcity and fear. And if we can flip that around, change the vibration, do the healing work on our relationship and renovate that relationship with abundance, then we will be able to turn things around or at least navigate it in a way

that feels more peaceful. I mean, the rags to riches stories are there for a reason. There's a sort of truth in it, right? Not everyone goes from rags to riches, but what is it about the people who do? It's their mindset, as you talked about earlier. It's their ability to see the situation as not permanent. And I think that's the thing too.

Deborah Tyson ~ Blisspot Founder and CEO (11:37.234)
you

Michelle ~ Kali Devi (12:03.64)
that whatever we're going through now, this too shall pass. And from, because I'm always coming from a soul perspective, I know that this lifetime's a real blip, but this too shall pass. So this isn't permanent either. Your situation can change, but sometimes we get fixated on, I'm never gonna, it's never gonna be different.

Deborah Tyson ~ Blisspot Founder and CEO (12:24.616)
my gosh, I love that because that's so true and sometimes when challenges do happen to us we do our mind if it's not trained can run away with us and think it's going to catastrophize it catastrophize it it's even going to get worse or this will never end and when we're stuck in that

Yes, I guess that's not really helpful or supportive to us. In fact, my next question, which I think you may have already answered, but you might want to elaborate on, is where do clients get stuck on their journey?

Michelle ~ Kali Devi (12:59.33)
Yeah. So to elaborate on what you just started to say then is what happens is, I mean, scarcity is one of the biggest things that we have to really combat because our society and the way patriarch has this patriarchal society has been set up is to sit in to keep us in scarcity. Everything around us, even the marketing and everything is quick. This is the last one by now before it disappears.

It's all about scarcity and that hierarchy of we're not enough. You've got to do more, be more, get more qualifications. All of those things have more, buy more, earn more. That's how we attach that worth thing that I was talking about. So we sit in that and that is the current that we're in. And so it's very easy just to slip back into the current. So being aware that the current all around us really does foster scarcity.

is a really good place to start is to understand that, okay, I'm slipping into that current and it's easy to be that, to be in scarcity and that I'm not enough vibe. But the way out of that and that's what really happens is we lose connection with source. We lose connection with ourself and our true nature. We forget that we're one with everything. We forget all of that. And I know that sounds like these sort of spiritual

kind of sayings that I'm putting out there, but there is a truth to them. And I'll explain why it's important for us to come back to that is because once we lose connection, we cut ourselves off from source. It's like we forget and we start to slide, as you say, into that negativity and those lower energies of scarcity, fear.

unworthiness. So these are the big things where people get stuck is the scarcity, the worthiness, and their power. And so often, once you start that slide into scarcity, it's I'm not enough, there's never enough. And we project that onto our relationship with money. And then it's the worthiness. You know, when we've carrying patterns and wounds of worthiness, we forget about our needs, let alone our desires.

Michelle ~ Kali Devi (15:21.484)
And without them, we can't dream, we can't be ourselves, we can't fulfill our destinies. And then our power, we are so often giving our power away to money. You know, that thing where a bill comes in and we, you know, gasp and shrink and get into a bad mood when we open the credit card bill is giving our power away to money, giving our power away to the situation that, we're in an economic crisis. Is everyone in an economic crisis?

Does it have to be true for me? You know, like we can question this. We can see where we're giving our power away and leaking money energy without even knowing it, leaking it unconsciously. So this is what happens when people get stuck is they get stuck in this fear and scarcity or stuck in the unworthiness and give their power away. And the antidote is to come back and connect. And that's why I keep bringing people back to.

to their source, to them, so that they can come back out of that. I hope that answers it.

Deborah Tyson ~ Blisspot Founder and CEO (16:26.798)
beautiful. Again, so much in that. It's just absolutely beautiful work and it's practical things that anybody can do at any time. Like, you know, we all have the power to change our perspective or our mindset and see things in a different way. Which probably leads me into the next question.

Michelle ~ Kali Devi (16:36.526)
Thanks.

Deborah Tyson ~ Blisspot Founder and CEO (16:49.47)
What is the one thing that you can do that would immediately or advice you can give to our audience that would immediately make them feel more financially abundant?

Michelle ~ Kali Devi (17:01.9)
Yeah. And I think I wish it wasn't just one thing because there's lots of little things you can do. In my course, I give you a tip for every single lesson. So there's lots of practical tips in my course. But the one thing I think that really shifts thing around, turns things around really is what you focus on. And this is a, you know, a saying that's out there all the time. Energy follows what you're focusing on energy follows, right? So

Deborah Tyson ~ Blisspot Founder and CEO (17:06.091)
Hehehehe

Michelle ~ Kali Devi (17:30.438)
My advice would be to start by focusing on and make an effort to see where abundance is all around you. So we may, we're so used to looking at what we don't have. So start looking at what you do have. And it could be that it's abundance of time. It could be an abundance of love. It could be, you know, an abundance of nature. Like it's start to focus on where abundance is showing up in your world.

so that your brain starts to look for that rather than just looking for what I don't have. So that's a really good place to start. And look, I can look outside my window now and we're very fortunate in Australia, in Sydney to be in one of the most amazing countries in the world. We're very lucky that it's it's affluent country. And whilst there is struggle here as well, there is a lot of abundance around us. So if I was to look out my window right now,

I would observe about 10 houses around my cul-de-sac, all well in excess of a million dollars. So right now I can focus and see millions of dollars around me. There's abundance in property around me. There are trees with an abundance of leaves right in front of me. So switch the focus. And that really isn't essentially what the practice of gratitude does.

it gets you to focus in at a different vibration at what is around you. So basically, I guess I'm explaining the practice of gratitude, but in a slightly more practical way. And so gratitude and forgiveness are the big powerhouses for renovating our relationship with money.

Deborah Tyson ~ Blisspot Founder and CEO (19:18.216)
That's beautiful and you just brought up forgiveness there which we didn't really talk about so much so would you just like to elaborate on

Michelle ~ Kali Devi (19:27.318)
Yeah, so when I'm working with people on their relationship with money, we look at their money stories. And a lot of forgiveness can come from us to ourselves, you know, how we can forgive ourselves for, you know, really disappointed in money for rejecting money and all of those things. in but in another sense, our money stories are forming who we are. And

and our relationship with money. So for example, if you've had a traumatic experience with money in the past, the forgiveness aspect of who was involved in that and how you responded to that is really powerful in dissolving, disintegrating the trigger and the belief that has come from that interaction of that money story.

Deborah Tyson ~ Blisspot Founder and CEO (20:18.001)
That's so interesting because we can be quite hard on ourselves without even knowing it. what you're saying is if we had a bad situation financially that's impacted us negatively, what would be an example of how we could reframe that up?

Michelle ~ Kali Devi (20:36.332)
Yeah, can I give you a money story example? Because that will be the easiest. I'll give you one of my stories. When I was in my 20s, I was going through divorce and we had just purchased a property that had water views. So it was one of those properties that it was a dump. It was a dump with water views. And it was one of those properties that was really, was good for auction. So we were putting out

Deborah Tyson ~ Blisspot Founder and CEO (20:38.203)
Yeah, love that. Love that. Love stories.

Michelle ~ Kali Devi (21:06.21)
house up for auction and with the day of the auction, I just wanted us to come out. It was the time of like 70 % interest rates and all of that. So I just wanted us to come out with enough to clear the debt and split everything. So that was my intention. The auction took off and it was one of those auctions where people were bidding and I'm going, my God, my God, this is so exciting. And I was just thrilled. And we got to an amount and we'd made a profit and I was just like ecstatic.

Right? So everything in my body, all the feelings and emotions were joy and like relief and all of those things. And then within minutes that the people have to come back and sign the contract and everything. And the person who bidded came up and said, how can you live with yourself? You deliberately manipulated that auction. And I don't know what else he said. That's all I could remember. And instantly I felt bad.

because I was struggling with low self-esteem, one of the things that happens with low self-esteem is you tend to take on people's judgments, right? And so it was like less than more than situation. And so all of a sudden that beautiful joyous experience of getting this money for no reason, like in a quick, quick sort of way was destroyed by these feelings of confusion, shock.

like I was a bit shocked because it was a man coming up to me and standing over me and fear of being in trouble. I have this fear of being in trouble button, right? So it really triggered all of that. So now I have a money story. have a situation where I now form a belief that money coming to me easily and fun and quickly results in shock, confusion.

bad feelings, uncomfortable, getting in trouble, right? I would definitely go to trouble off that man, right? So now unconsciously, you want to protect yourself from that. So you unconsciously avoid situations where you can have basically magic money. So that is a story that I've carried through. So to unravel that is to analyze and really

Deborah Tyson ~ Blisspot Founder and CEO (23:02.96)
getting in trouble even.

Michelle ~ Kali Devi (23:28.992)
name your story, who's in it, what feelings came up and what is the resultant belief that's come out of it. Then the forgiveness comes in. What you then do is forgive that person for, you know, creating that drama. Forgive myself for taking on the belief that it was my fault and that somehow I did something that I didn't even know I did, which wasn't true, I didn't.

and forgiving myself and anybody else involved in that transaction. Now you may have to do it more than once, but that starts to dissolve that hard-held belief that I can't get money magically and easily without that drama and getting into trouble. You see how that works?

Deborah Tyson ~ Blisspot Founder and CEO (24:14.246)
I love that. Yeah. Yeah, no, I do. And so in that situation, you would have forgiven yourself and the gentleman, the other man. Yeah. Beautiful. So many insights there. And I'm sure we can all look back and start to unravel our money stories. That's amazing. Thank you so much, Michelle, for that very important tip. And it's just such a different way of looking at things. But yet it actually is common sense. Makes sense that

Michelle ~ Kali Devi (24:22.274)
Yeah. Yeah.

Michelle ~ Kali Devi (24:42.444)
Yeah, so you create with the emotion and with the already I would have had those triggers of getting into trouble. And all I did was concretize that even more. So when you start to unravel the money story reflection, you have to unravel the unworthiness and the getting into trouble thing and your self esteem thing at the same time. So that's why working on your business pathway or your money pathway changes all of your life.

Deborah Tyson ~ Blisspot Founder and CEO (24:52.389)
Mmm.

Deborah Tyson ~ Blisspot Founder and CEO (25:11.738)
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I love that. So we've talked about this a little bit already, but and I believe the answer is yes, but you probably want to expand upon it. Do you think there is such a thing as an abundant mindset?

Michelle ~ Kali Devi (25:28.864)
Yes, I don't know that it's just mindset. I think it's frequency. I'm really big on, you see, we have the four bodies, we have like the emotional body, the mental body, the energetic body, the physical body, and the spiritual soul body, right? So I think it's, and all of those together create your frequency. So we can, you know, hammer on

Deborah Tyson ~ Blisspot Founder and CEO (25:31.801)
Mm-hmm. Good.

Michelle ~ Kali Devi (25:58.286)
affirmation and get our mental stuff working, is what I've, which is how I'm interpreting mindset with the mind. But if emotionally, you're carrying that belief that I'm not going to get money magic, magic money, because it's going to get me into trouble. That is going to override any affirmation I do up here. So it's and it will distort my frequency, I could have the perfect mindset. But this will change the

overall frequency and it's the overall frequency that we're putting out into the world like a beacon and that's how we're attracting and being magnetic. So I believe we have to have all of it on board and they're all just as important. So we can't have you know all the emotions going beautifully and not have you know and have a mind that is is all over the place.

Deborah Tyson ~ Blisspot Founder and CEO (26:29.092)
you

Deborah Tyson ~ Blisspot Founder and CEO (26:42.276)
Yeah.

Deborah Tyson ~ Blisspot Founder and CEO (26:52.066)
I guess that is what you're talking about is true soul alignment, isn't it? Where everything is aligned because what we think impacts how we feel, but what we feel impacts how we think. then that both of those things manifest in our body and our soul is always trying to bring us back to center if we're not on track.

Michelle ~ Kali Devi (26:57.014)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Michelle ~ Kali Devi (27:12.75)
And then there could be soul contracts. We haven't talked about the fact that we may have made a valve poverty in a past lifetime. So we've got the whole thing to deal with.

Deborah Tyson ~ Blisspot Founder and CEO (27:20.612)
Mmm, yeah, but interesting. think it's a wonderful journey, the inner journey. You know, it's very, very rewarding, very challenging in lots of ways and it takes some courage to look at yourself. We'll do anything rather than look at ourself, eat, drink, know, shop. But when we take that, when we commit to that journey, I can speak from.

Michelle ~ Kali Devi (27:33.548)
Yes? Yes? Yes?

Rest.

Deborah Tyson ~ Blisspot Founder and CEO (27:47.886)
personal experience and many other people I've spoken to, it really does give you those deep, rich rewards of that beautiful, meaningful, fulfilled, aligned life. So very passionate about the work that you do, Michelle, it's wonderful. And so why do you think that people really need to do this now? And what is the cost of not changing to themselves, their loved ones and to their future? Like just say, for example, for yourself, if you hadn't have done that work, had that awareness.

Michelle ~ Kali Devi (28:00.078)
this.

Deborah Tyson ~ Blisspot Founder and CEO (28:18.452)
forgiven that gentleman, forgiven yourself, you know, your life could look quite different now.

Michelle ~ Kali Devi (28:25.87)
Yeah, I mean, it would mean that I would stick to this hard work and effort model and take a long time to get, you know, the numbers up and all of the rest of it. But when we come back to really knowing ourselves at the truest level of love, it needs to know ourselves as abundant. It is to know ourselves as abundant. So when we are not doing that, we are really rejecting ourselves in some way and we are

putting ourselves on hold, we are limiting ourselves because we're avoiding our true nature, which is abundance. And to do that is hard actually to keep ourselves small. And so the cost of that is staying small, living in fear, the anxiety, the distrust, and that will impact your relationships in all ways, in your career, in physical health and all of those things. So ultimately,

It is it's soul destroying. and in those little microwaves, it's going to infect your infect your everyday life to the point where there could be depression, anxiety and physical manifestations like chronic chronic fatigue and all of those sorts of things and just continually attracting the drama of of scarcity and things like that. So there is an impact not only on yourself,

those around you because we have the ability to radiate out of frequency that actually lifts other people up. So if we're not doing that, then we are also impacting those around us. So yeah, it's important.

Deborah Tyson ~ Blisspot Founder and CEO (30:08.43)
Gosh, I love that. And I love the way which I've not really heard. I've heard it, but the way you say it, think because it ties in with the rest of the work that you're doing, magic money. It's so beautiful because it puts a real, I think even those words paired together, makes it light and accessible and like available. I don't know. I just love the energy that gives off when you say those words.

Michelle ~ Kali Devi (30:35.49)
I think I've only just been saying it today, I must have needed it to say it for you.

Deborah Tyson ~ Blisspot Founder and CEO (30:39.523)
I love it. It's beautiful. And what have you learned along your journey? You've spoken about that a little bit already, but I think, yeah, what is it that you...

Michelle ~ Kali Devi (30:53.646)
kind of I can distill it into one thing and I say this a lot that self love is the answer. It's just that simple for all the reasons I've been saying today. So if there's if there's anything that I've learned, it's that really the inner work is the work. I mean, that's that's how you're going to get there and it is all about loving yourself, reclaiming all of that shadow self that you've denied. And I feel like

Deborah Tyson ~ Blisspot Founder and CEO (31:02.402)
you

Michelle ~ Kali Devi (31:23.158)
been going through a series of initiations, if you like. And the first one was answering the call that that sort of, you know, open the door for the soul to come in and get doing some work. And then I think the next thing I really learned that was so important was permission. The initiation of permission is where at some point you have to love yourself enough to give yourself permission to take that next step to

have that dream to ask for those needs to be met to have that boundary, whatever it is that you're working on, you have to give yourself permission. That was the next real hurdle for me in moving this dial of low self-esteem. And the third big one is self-acceptance, where at some point that self-love meter gets high enough for you to accept yourself enough, know, what's in all that you can

start to make choices that are more loving for yourself. And so they're the things that I have really, you know, begun to really embody. It's always a lifelong thing, but they're the key things that made a difference for me and that I can see has made the changes within me.

Deborah Tyson ~ Blisspot Founder and CEO (32:38.497)
I love that and I feel that what you say the concepts are really simple but they're not necessarily that easy to do. It takes focus and commitment and I will say because I've actually done it myself and it's incredibly beautiful. Michelle has put together an absolutely beautiful offering on abundance in her work because she's touched on so many beautiful

valuable concepts today that you can implement straight away and start to feel that positive difference. But there is a lot to it and it's a discipline, discipline might sound like a hard word but sometimes I know on my own journey I get the support when I need it. So for that reason Michelle's got a beautiful course on Bliss Spot. She also does has her own private practice where she takes people for one-on-one sessions so that's another option if you want to.

work with Michelle at a deeper level but I know or what I've learned off in the hard way is that when I'm struggling we keep as humans think we'll just try to work our way out of it or it'll change and you know a few weeks later we're still struggling whereas we just when we go and get the support usually the first thing we think to ourselves is why didn't we do it sooner why didn't we just reach out and get that support because

We're all connected. We're all here to help each other and support each other on the journey when it's needed. So I could highly recommend Michelle's offering. As I said, I've listened to it myself. She's got a beautiful online course about aligning yourself to your abundance frequency, which she's so beautifully spoken about today. And also a beautiful meditation to help you get up in the morning so you're already

setting yourself up for that abundant mindset and a beautiful meditation in the evening that helps you sleep, rest, refresh and renew whilst building that abundant mindset because I know that life skills are something that we do need to focus on and build and learn just as we would learn to become fit. We'd learn specific exercises to help us on that journey.

Deborah Tyson ~ Blisspot Founder and CEO (34:58.813)
So I'd like to finish with Michelle, why do you do this beautiful, incredible life enhancing work that you do?

Michelle ~ Kali Devi (35:08.558)
I like this question. It's going to allow me to be more vulnerable. And really honestly, selfishly. Ultimately, I'm like Kyron the wounded healer, who had a wound and sets out to heal himself, and along the way becomes a great healer. And really, that's the reason I started I was lost, I was in that transition. And I wanted to find myself I can remember so clearly standing on my back.

back deck looking up at the clouds in the sky going angels please help me and looking outside of myself instead of inside took me a while. And so selfishly it is a journey of self love for myself but it's become this wanting to share everything that I've learned along the way and I have the gift now of seeing so clearly where

the wounds are and these life themes that people are dealing with and that carly energy to excavate and go into the underworld really resonates with me. I just love it. And so there's a passion in it. I love it. But there is something that I've always had on my about page. And I had it there at a time when I was being challenged. It was one of those moments where I didn't feel good enough. And my friend said,

stop whinging and I got angry and I wrote him an email back and I said this phrase and I said, I'm doing this because I'm fighting through the fear. Like I'm fighting through the fear and I'm gonna climb this mountain one self loving step at a time because for my clients, for they are worth it and so am I. And so that's why I do it, because we're worth it.

Deborah Tyson ~ Blisspot Founder and CEO (37:01.533)
Yeah, that's beautiful and I love the way you've drawn that line in the sand and stood on that and you go, we are worth it, I'm worth it, you're worth it. It's beautiful, it's amazing. Life enhancing energy to lift us up and to connect us to not only ourselves but as we know it has a flow on effect and it will help us in all areas of our life.

Michelle ~ Kali Devi (37:11.757)
Meh.

Deborah Tyson ~ Blisspot Founder and CEO (37:28.592)
including connecting to others, which is often a big thing that people struggle with as well. know, so not connecting to our loved ones or the people we love the most. So, but it all starts with the journey to the self. Well, Michelle, I cannot thank you enough for imparting your beautiful wisdom today. I know you truly walk your talk. You helped so many people. You have developed the beautiful life enhancing course that

Michelle ~ Kali Devi (37:34.008)
Yes.

Deborah Tyson ~ Blisspot Founder and CEO (37:55.57)
You can listen to a little bit every day. If you choose the financial wellbeing path on Blissbot, you'll be served a little bit of Michelle's content every day to help you on your journey to really step into that aligned self and your frequency, really working with that frequency. And like Michelle, I've been on the journey myself and it does take support and know how, different changing up your perspective, looking at different things.

in different ways and I've certainly learnt a lot from Michelle today just going deeper into her work. So thank you so much Michelle and we're very grateful to have you as part of the BlissBot community and to be sharing the absolutely incredible work that you do.

Michelle ~ Kali Devi (38:43.384)
And thank you. Thank you for the opportunity to say myself.

Deborah Tyson ~ Blisspot Founder and CEO (38:44.157)
You're most welcome. Thank you.