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Live From Peggy: Couples Counselling with Kingswood

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This week we're recording straight from Peggy, Kingswood's legendary tour bus, where one innocent question?, quickly turns into a full blown couples counselling session.

We put the boys to the test to see if they can tell the difference between cracking open a Coke or a Young Henrys, hear some hilarious Peggy stories, find out who's the more sexual performer (the boys or the Ladies Love Country DJs), discuss the slightly concerning ability to know when your mate is wearing new underpants, and chat about the incredible journey that's seen them support rock legends like Aerosmith and AC/DC.

It's chaotic, hilarious, and exactly what you'd expect from a podcast recorded on a tour bus.

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SPEAKER_06

Hey ladies!

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We're Kings with Welcome back to another episode of Ladies Love Country.

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Ladies Love!

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Ladies Love Country!

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It's a pleasure to be here, ladies!

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This episode is brought to us by Simultaneous Cracking.

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Have you heard the people that can tell whether it's a soft drink or a beer? Yeah, that's a lie.

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That's not real.

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Sounded different. Close your eyes, everyone. There's another can right there. Wait, wait, stop. We can do it. There's a can right there if you happen to happen to kill a zero. Yeah, we'll kill a zero in pursuit of science. Are you ready?

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We'll kill a zero in pursuit of science. Okay, ready?

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Okay, you ready? No, it doesn't have to be killed. I'm just gonna put that down. Oh, we'll sort it out.

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Grace will consume it.

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Okay, you ready?

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Yeah.

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This is number one.

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Okay. It's good effervescence. Yeah, a great hang up.

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Soft drink was number one. The coke was number one. Agreed, agreed.

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You nailed it. What were you gonna say?

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I was gonna say the opposite.

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It had more bubbles. Too much way more pressure. Don't lose that. We'll say that, but we'll give it to someone on the someone with diabetes.

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Cheers.

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Of course you will.

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Cheers! Cheers!

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Cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers! From down from Nashville to Peggy.

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That's right.

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To Peggy! Peggy!

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To Peggy!

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Last time we saw you guys was uh section 38 in listen stadium.

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What specifically got it? So much fun. Who do we say that night, guys?

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Oh Timmy. Papa Tim. Papa Tim.

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Daddy.

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Daddy Tim. Very old. It's Tim really. It's very unsettling.

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Tim is the same age as Keith, and Keith looks fantastic and moves really well.

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Oh, what are you saying about Tim McGraw?

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I thought he moved like an old man. No, he doesn't.

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Oh, okay.

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Yeah, me too.

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I thought Tim looked a good ten older than him.

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He's probably the reason he can't move as much is he's so laden with muscle. Yeah.

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Yeah, he's he can't put his arms down properly because he's just too massive.

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He looks like a perfect figurine. He looks like a figurine of himself.

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Yeah, sexual.

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He does look like a G.I. Joe.

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He looks like a G.I.

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Joe. People say when you perform they they say something similar.

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That will look like G.I. Joe's. Yeah. I don't think I'm a sexual performer.

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Really?

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I think I like to perform with a warm hug. Al, you might be a bit of a sexy performer. I'm not a sexy performer. And then you're a little bit sexy on stage.

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No, no, we're a sexy performers.

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Not at all.

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Are you kidding me? Have you seen us DJ?

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I have seen you DJ. Wait, just then.

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Oh no, it wasn't DJing. No, well. It was like incognito. That was the incognito. It also was what we normally do for a DJ set.

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It's when your phone goes to like the the cancel the blue light mode.

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No. Oh, as in like you're you're on?

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It goes more yellow. It's like subdued.

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Oh well that's what your sound check's like.

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Is it?

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Isn't it?

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Our sound check was blistering. Our sound check was Grammy worthy. Yeah.

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No, it's more in terms of like the level of energy on sound check. Oh yeah, of course. Yeah.

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No, no. No, no, no, no, no. I do have a blister at the moment.

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What happened?

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Just riveting, and I got another one here, blood one. Look.

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Is that from guitars?

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No, it's from fixing the buttons.

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Oh. So tell us about Peggy, where we are today.

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She's a 1990 Mercedes OM303.

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Yeah.

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She has a 1978. No, she's that's her engine. Her engine's an OM303. It's a 1978. Her body is a 1990 Stuttgart-born Brazilian made tag axle.

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A sexual performer.

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She's she had she's she certainly she can perform. She can also underperform.

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Tell us about one time that she's underperformed.

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Oh, on the way from Armadale, Thunderbolt's Way, I can tell you all about this. To turnworth? It was or different time. Different time. This was on the this was the day after your birthday. She definitely went downhill. She went downhill and exploded in a fury of flames and oil. Yeah.

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Oh.

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And all the boys are asleep back here. And I it was this unbelievably steep descent when and it's this whole thing of like she doesn't have an exhaust brake, which is integral. So anyway, and so I had to use a combination of like the handbrake and the normal brakes and the gears. And gears.

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And you've got to try and like use the brakes, but if you overuse them, you'll you'll burn them out too hot. So then you've got to use the gears, which means it's revving really high, and that's the way.

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So you've got to like you're using the engine to slow the bus down. But because because the descent was so steep and so it was like three and a half kilometres of descent, and the bus was heavily laden, so there's a lot, there's about 17 and a half tons it's trying to stop. And at one point, and I'd made it all, and it was just like hairpin turns down this mountain, and everyone was asleep, and I was like so conscious of like I don't want to kill everyone because I had no brakes going around these hair pins, and I'd finally got to the last straight of Thunderbolts and I'm like, oh thank god. And as soon as I thought, thank God, it just went poof, and I just looked in the window, and I could see flames and black, all this black stuff coming out, and I and then everything on the dash went red, and I was like, This is fucked. And then everyone woke up and was like, Is this bad? I'm like, it's really bad. Put that, put the ham rake on, ran out the back, opened them, opened the thing, and there was a hole in the side of the engine. I'm not kidding you, like this big, and the piston was hanging out sideways, and Ferg was like, Can we fix this?

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And I'm like, Yeah, it's either the engine or if the brokes the brakes had died, that's worse because then you can't stop. So it's actually the best of the WD40. It definitely was not the best to explode an engine.

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We exploded.

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No, it's gonna be positive.

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It's the second engine we exploded.

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Yeah.

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So we've blown up two engines in our like circumnavigation of Australia, which I think we're probably on 150,000 kilometres at this point. Yeah. From in three years. It's pretty wild. Peggy, that's Peggy performing.

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What's where's the furthest you've been?

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I can name it.

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You've been to WA?

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WA hundred percent. Really?

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We've driven up through the middle, through Alice Springs, to Darwin, Catherine, across the Broom, down the west coast. Kind of X-Man.

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Played bingo up there. We've gone out to Arnhem Land a little bit with it. Yes.

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We've yeah, out to Catherine, then we've done around to Augusta and across the Nullawore. Oh yeah, it's been amazing.

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We've done heaps.

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It's been a little bit of a few.

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We've been up and down the East Coast heaps of times. We've taken it up as far as mission. No, Cairns. We've done Cairns in this a couple of times. Mission's a little bit less than Cairns, I'm pretty sure.

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We've been to Cairns on it.

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We've been to Cairns on it. We just did Cooktown, but we didn't take the bus.

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Yeah. But we did 110 shows in six months when the restrictions lifted after COVID. We took it all around Australia and just played town to town.

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And purposefully built this bus for that.

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What kind of cool, cool things did you build into the bus?

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All sorts of stuff. There's compartments under fridges. Oh did you say you were thirsty, Craig? Oh, okay. You know, this is gonna be out of out of shot. But geez, just a secret king's just another one over there. At a very, very healthy minus 0.4 degrees for very microwave as a toaster. For crisp crisp beverages.

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And there's the main fridge and freezer up there.

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Do you guys cook a lot?

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Six bunks. We reheat.

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Do you ever fall out of the beds if someone turns a cor turns a corner to the bottom? It's happened maybe once.

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Who's fallen out? Didn't Bob fall out once or maybe? No, she she We loved him. Bob's Bella on the Bass, which is our bigger.

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Oh, I love that!

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She thinks she claims she almost fell, but I feel like her limbs are long enough where she could like suspend. Bob's a girl. Bella on the big Bella on the base.

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Oh, Bella on the bass. Sorry, I used to be better on the bass. I was like, yep, sounds like she does better on the bass.

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Nah, Bella on the bass. Um Steffi's always low, so she's never fallen out. Steffi's got the ball.

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We're both low. We're both low. Shane is that hierarchy or like based off singing hierarchy. The three of us, the three of us do.

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So if you have a bad night, does it then you get kicked out of the bottom and move away?

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Yeah, you get hoisted.

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Relegated to the heights. Yeah.

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There's a pulley system.

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The penals.

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Yeah.

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No, it's fine. Actually, I think I have stuff there.

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The top's really fun. Tot loves the top.

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It's beyond the camera, but oh.

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Tot loves the top because you're also where you are on the fulcrum of the bus in this very last one. Fulcrum. The fulcrum, the leverage point. You are you are just speaking a different level. It's physics, man. Yeah. You're at the point of most leverage. So you're getting thrown up and down at the back here on the top bunk.

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If you're on the top in the middle though, and you pop the hatch, you can look at the stars. Oh. So I think I've got the best bunk on the bus because from my bunk you watch the movie at the front. So if everyone's watching a movie, I can get into bed and continue to watch the movie. Wow. That's a living. That's a living very low.

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And Benny, and Benny's similar, but he's also eyeline with the TV from his bunk. He's probably got the best.

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Yeah, yeah. He's got the best space for it.

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What bunk would you guys take?

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Yeah. Oh, I'm definitely a bottom bunk girl because I always I have really bad ADHD, so I'd just be forgetting stuff all the time.

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What has that got to do with height?

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I'll just forget. Well, let me explain. If I left things up in the top bunk, which I would, I would forget them, and then I need to be able to see everything all the time.

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Well, you and I have really bad eyesight. We spoke about this. Yeah.

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Don't you and I have the same eyesight?

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No.

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Oh, no, I think I'm worse.

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I I steal your contact lenses all the time.

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They're exactly the same as I can't really see out of mine, to be honest.

SPEAKER_05

So you guys have spent a lot of time in the bus together.

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We spent so much time. Can I actually just came to mind? There's this beautiful moment the other day.

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Oh no.

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It's so funny. I think it's so beautiful. It's so weird, but we're in cairns, right? Yeah. And we're loading into the back of the car, and I'm reaching in to like put a guitar in the back of the Kia Carnival. It's probably like now not trying to make a joke or just being fully sincere. It's almost like something out of spinal tap just goes, Foos, you get some new underpants. Like, oh man, you got some new underpants. That's cool. What kind are they? And I was just like, there was a fresh band. It was just like how did you know they were fresh?

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Or the you know, in the elastic. Like you would like you You know the elastic gets a little bit like wrinkled.

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I reckon like 1% of couples that live together would say, Oh babe, you got some new underpants. It's not a thing that comes up. But he goes, Oh, cool, man, they're good there, they look good.

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There were good good colouring. No, there hasn't been there wasn't any colour wall.

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I was like, we spent too much time together.

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No discolourage, none of none of it your undies to be. None of the frills. No frills, no frills, undies, yeah. They were black, black with a lime uh insert. Lime, yeah, yeah. Like electric electric lime green. Yeah, there's lime, there's orange, there's girls.

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Partnership, here we come. What ran?

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And then it was it.

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Do you like the drop of sponsorship?

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Yeah, yeah. We've got to be careful, we've got to be careful. Young Henri's, young Henries, young Henries.

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They don't do undies though, so no, exactly.

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We can cross-promote.

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What are you guys drinking?

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I'm drinking a lager, and you guys are drinking the Newtown Pale.

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Yeah, but it's not just a lager, because you've actually got the Ringers Western lager.

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Do I?

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You the Ringers Western lager.

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I've got a Ringers Western lager on a Ringers Western coaster.

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Whoa! Settle down.

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That's pretty cool. That is cool.

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Am I gonna get that in shot?

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We also had a ringers western um tube that we used down a river.

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We floated down the Murray in Austria. We need one of them. Yeah, so we can get the TJ. A Maroon and White Ring.

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Is it really? Where did you guys play it?

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At the rodeo.

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Oh.

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I was on a very um, yeah, it was it was a humble beginning.

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Is that is that the day you guys came you guys told me this story at Tamworth? Was that the day you came? No, you went to a festival and you came back and said, we're starting a podcast. And you're an architect and you're No, that was CMT. Oh, it was CMC.

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Yeah, but that was before DJing. DJing's very new. DJing.

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DJing, first one was in December.

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You're on our bus.

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We do are we do the best in duos.

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Are you guys gonna be uh at uh Gimpy? TBC Savannah and the Rounds.

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TBC.

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Groundwater.

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If it's if it's happening. If they're announced the lineup, it's happening. It hasn't on the Sunday though, because it's a summer weekend at Strummy Bird.

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Oh yeah. Isn't Posty at Strummy Bird? Posty's at Strummy Moon.

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That's hot.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah. We've got we've got some dear friends in his band. Two members have been um pretty, pretty they're they're they're all over the Kingswood records in the history of our catalogue. Yeah.

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If you also want uh uh uh a one step away um link to Zach Top Alzheimer Man as well.

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I've got a couple of got made some hang out with him at the bar?

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We've been Steffi beat him at pool.

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They played pool with him, but I was that that was the last trip. That was at Skinny, but then I ended up becoming really good mates with his his front of house guy needs all these tools, like tech tools. And I'm a friend of mine and I have a business that does that stuff, and we were telling him about it, and he's like, Wow, this shit's incredible. Can you make some custom stuff? And we were like, Yeah, I just had a big meeting with him the other day. And weirdly enough, we're talking about all this nerdery, and we could hear I get this voice comes on the background, he goes, Hello, sir! And then he was like, Oh, and he's like, Are we gonna play pool tonight? It's skinny. And he's like, And it was Zach in the background. Like, it was Zach.

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So I didn't break, I didn't break his spirit when I smashed him at the pool, apparently.

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Oh, they destroyed it.

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It's good. Oh, he said, uh He said, uh, if y'all play music is half as good as you should pull, you're gonna be alright.

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He has a plaque at the um scoreboard.

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Yeah, it was good.

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I got very lucky, I just Oh it's his other favourite bar. It's next to the palace.

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Where's the palace? Yeah.

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You've never been to the palace? No. Oh, take you to the palace.

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Also, opposite the Opry.

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Yeah.

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Also. Oh, I have been there. I went with Thor. It's got it with Thor? Oh, this guy. Magnum. No.

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Speaking of, do you guys have a dance with Thor? That would have been so weird. You went swing dancing with Thor?

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Yeah, it's a guy from Iceland whose name is actually Thor.

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No, it's not.

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He plays in the band Kaleo. You know Kaleo? Way down we go.

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Way down, we go.

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He plays the harmonica.

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He plays the harmonica solo on the street. He plays steel.

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Yeah, he's went to Berkeley for harmonica. He's unbelievable. Okay. He's like the most extremely talented musician I know. He's unbelievable.

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He plays the harmonica solo on the action, and I was like, oh, I'll like learn it, even if I like half-learn it, and like it'll be cool to bust out. Then I'd be sexy.

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I agree. Harmonica get a harmonica.

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And I tried to learn it, and I was like, this is too many years away, I'm afraid. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

I also tried. It's never too late to start. No, you're right.

SPEAKER_02

It's never too late to start, but it takes probably at least 11 years to get to like a rudimentary level, probably.

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Really?

SPEAKER_04

Piano men? Do you can you do that on the harmonica?

SPEAKER_03

Uh I'd say that'd be easier than this solo, but it is.

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Not easy for everyone.

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We're not fans of people um people who just adopt an instrument and pretend that they're a master at it. Yeah. I've played trumpet for six months. I've mastered it. Speaking of master.

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How's your hook up for Posty Zach? And he's actually recently become really good mates with Keith Urban.

SPEAKER_05

Keith Urban as well.

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We're hanging out with you. It was a fruitful trip in Nashville.

SPEAKER_05

Sounds like it. Yeah.

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Lot of uh amazing connections.

SPEAKER_05

Tell us about your your current moves in geographic location.

SPEAKER_02

I'm s I'm stationary.

SPEAKER_05

No, that's not. Are you moving somewhere in Duncan?

SPEAKER_02

I am. I will I moved. I've I've bought it. There's deer out the back.

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We stayed there. The girls um want to stay there when they go out. You're absolutely more than welcome.

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There's guest rooms there.

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Yeah.

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The whole idea of it is to be like a mecca between Australia and America. For anyone who's connected to the Australian music industry. And I'm building. Brianna was there, Chloe's there. I had Ethan Cowway's coming over. I'm building this huge studio in the basement, like a commercial grade studio, with so then the idea is you and writing rooms. So you can do writing and recording, you can stay there, and as it develops, it's and then you know, you guys or whoever, it's like a place that sort of centers the connection to country music in National Between.

SPEAKER_03

Ethan's gonna strike one because he brought um fake Lennon.

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He brought fake John Lennon. Fake John Lennon. We met him at the whole thing.

SPEAKER_04

Did he think he was fake or real?

SPEAKER_02

No, he's not. No, he knew he was fake John Lennon.

SPEAKER_04

Did Ethan know he was fake though?

SPEAKER_02

No, no, no. Ethan thought it was the real John Lennon. He was convinced. He's like, guys, John Lennon's still alive. He's uh he's in East Nashville.

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Everyone's around me.

SPEAKER_06

He did get that sponsor, didn't he?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I did. I did, yeah, Jack. That's so exciting though. You're gonna move to Nashville. You've moved.

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I've moved.

SPEAKER_04

You should make it like a content house.

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It's it can't make a well that's the thing when the studio's set up. It's it's like it's massive. You guys can host out of there, we'll do yeah, we'll make it.

SPEAKER_03

I'm joking. I'm joking.

SPEAKER_05

Content house. You guys are familiar with the 615 house, right?

SPEAKER_03

No.

SPEAKER_05

615 is the area code of Nashville. Yeah. Actually, they changed it to 629.

SPEAKER_02

No, that's no, that's the new that's new Nashville, old Nashville 615. Like my number is a 615.

SPEAKER_05

Alright, they got a phone number. What happens to the five?

SPEAKER_02

You got a 629?

SPEAKER_05

No, I got a 629, and I was like, and then she's like, you just pick a number, and I was like, where's the 615? Not anymore. And I was like, what?

SPEAKER_02

That's not that's not true. There's you can actually, you can actually, I'll take you to go and get a 615 if you want one.

SPEAKER_05

I want one. Damn it, I just text everyone. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

That's okay.

SPEAKER_02

You want a 615? Don't look at me like you're 60.

SPEAKER_03

I'm not I'm not nothing at all.

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The 615.

SPEAKER_03

There's a great Seinfeld episode where Elaine gets a new phone number and it's the it's the new suit and and no one wants to date her anymore. It's true! Yeah, it's two.

SPEAKER_04

No, wait, wait. The 615 house, it started in COVID where all these artists decided they wanted to live together because they were like, well, there's nothing else to do. So they lived together and they started filming content together. So like Cooper Allen, Ashley Cook, all these artists, and so they were like, you don't know who they're doing. Yeah, and so they all shared each other's followers, and so it brought them all because they started like singing with each other, they started doing content together. And so it's rather than using one audience, it's using five different audiences.

SPEAKER_02

Collaboration, fantastic.

SPEAKER_05

So they call it a content house.

SPEAKER_02

Love it.

SPEAKER_05

That's pretty much what you just pitched.

SPEAKER_02

Well, yeah, but my I want to center mine around making great albums that like.

SPEAKER_05

That is content, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, of course, of course, but I sort of see as content for me, just the terminology is immediate. Whereas this is like career defining.

SPEAKER_04

Okay. But plenty of content to career defining for ladies of country, too. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02

No, you guys are so honestly, honestly, you're so like once it's set up, you're so welcome, and it's like in the best spot. It's amazing. Like you'll see it and be like, what the hell is this place? It's magical.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, I'm so excited. What's your best piece of dating advice?

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Jesus. My name is.

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I like it.

SPEAKER_02

Um why do we skip so much from career definition to like romantic entanglement?

SPEAKER_03

I uh the only thing that comes to mind is to show your true self and your quirkiness and your weirdness and all that. Don't try and show like this perfect image in your head and then break the walls down later. Just be really honest and upfront.

SPEAKER_02

A hundred percent. I was very much in line with what I was gonna say is you're gonna die one day, so just don't pretend on who you are. Oh, okay. What do you mean I'm gonna die? Like, like, like it's so easy, like there's an inclination to present.

SPEAKER_05

Actually, when I was driving the bus, you never know. Where did you hear this?

SPEAKER_03

I didn't say that. Where's this coming from?

SPEAKER_05

Have you ever had to use the emergency run-up?

SPEAKER_03

No. No, but I want to sometimes.

SPEAKER_02

You have that thought where you see it and you go, just once. What that would have been fantastic on Thunderbolt's wave. Where the f where the fuck was the run-up on that descent? There was no run-up. There was just explosive explosive. Maybe if you used a run-up. There was no run-up. Don't come at me, Grace, with the run-up.

SPEAKER_04

Wait, I have a question. How did you guys actually know each other?

SPEAKER_02

We went to school together. We met we met in we met in primary school. We were nine years old.

SPEAKER_03

We were in a band called Sweet Garlic. Sweet Garlic. We played at the school fair, we played Don't Wanna Miss a Thing by Aerosmith and Lynard Skinned's Sweet Home Alabama. Southern Rock from the start.

SPEAKER_05

Isn't that wild that you used to play Aerosmith and then you ended up supporting Aerosmith?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Full circle?

SPEAKER_05

Walk us through your your your career defining journey.

SPEAKER_03

We'll take turns. Oh god, yeah. Sweet Sweet Garlic?

SPEAKER_02

Uh uh Another Conundrum.

SPEAKER_03

No, no, no, it's just a band.

SPEAKER_02

Another band for Ferg, and then I was on the. But you weren't a part of that.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, just used to. I'll jump to the next one. Uh The Prince. Was another band? No, no, that was a venue that Rollover Wednesday nights, what was that called?

SPEAKER_02

That was uh Ding Dong Lounge. Oh, the Palace Rollover Wednesdays and but the first one was Ding Dong Lounge. Yeah. Ding Dong. Upstairs at Market Lane in Melbourne. Uh uh uh This is way before you guys were probably born, to be honest. Um probably if we triple J uh we won Triple J Uff and played Splendor we developed we we we toured for for we've got to skip things we toured for four years and developed a like a a very um uh uh uh loyal audience and then we that took uh the that took a lot of labels took note and then we won Splendor on Earth then we opened Splendor that yeah Belangeal Fields were we signed by then I can't remember I don't know we got signed to Universal this is still when you were like did you still classify yourself as like a rock band we were 12 uh we were we were we were right yeah we were probably like we were they considered us a hard rock actor but we weren't like Ohio was for southern rock still for us we're like more blues okay um and then and then we went to Nashville for the first time 2011 recorded Microsoft Wars recorded micro wars and started all this like love affair with that city and and all of the characters in it and that sort of influenced all sorts of stuff that then we went second album again Nashville third album Nashville open for AC DC then open for AC DC open for Aerosmith the coolest thing about AC DC and Aerosmith that time Aerosmith was easy Aerosmith were in the green room and Steven Tyler walks in kicked like literally kicked the door in and walked in with this leopard print uh like kimono and he goes you guys want to see photos of me from last night we're like yeah and then he clapped his hands and this beautiful blonde woman walks in with an iPad and she's like this is Steven on the thrust this is Steven on the piano this is Steven lunging this is Steven singing lead to to Janie's got a gun and he and he and then he was just looking at it like this going isn't she great and we were like whoa what's going on and he looks at Ferrag he's like why'd you cut your hair asshole look at and he's like we were like whoa and he's like alright cool I love your song I'm leaving and it was like we're like whoa and then John Stevens walked in John Stevens was singing with a band called the Dead Daisies and was like members from um Motley crew and Guns N'Roses and and all this we were just like what the hell's going on at the time we were touring as well we were on the uh it was their way into the Groove and the Moo series so we got booked on Groove and the Moo and then we did uh Falls and we did the big day out and we did done three splendors the last big day out ever which was really cool. Wow that's very cool and and we got nominated for area hard rock that no not hard rock just rock that year and then and then we and then we started to turn down all these other avenues of like our alternative at contemporary adult music and country music and bluegrass music.

SPEAKER_04

What was the catalyst for that change?

SPEAKER_03

I well I reckon it happened in COVID when everything sort of stopped all momentum for everyone just stopped and well the catalyst comes much earlier from like inf stuff that we loved and we were influenced by. Yeah but that's not a catalyst.

SPEAKER_02

Of course it is how is it not a catalyst? You hear something you think I want to make that I can I can say that the catalyst for for this is hearing my mother sing when I was in the womb you have no conscious memory of that she was a great singer was a little muffled yeah but she showed like Ferg he Ferg showed me stuff like Dixie Chicks, Cold Chisel, Extreme, like all this stuff and I had like a very very classically driven musical education from a very young age and then that went into like jazz and blues and like through that I got into weird parts of country like like particularly this guitar player named Danny Gatton who who kind of like defined country guitar playing from like the 80s onwards and took you guys know like Chet Atkins and Jerry Reed they developed these styles of playing that he then fused with blues and contemporary and jazz and that kind of really drew me because I was kind of in that world already like and then you'd hear I'd steer this way and find these little things in country where that were kind of you'd find Danny Gatton and then you find this other guitar player named Brent Mason then you go who's Brent Mason he's like played on Alan Jackson and Vince Gill and like like Reber and fucking and um all the and I ended up getting to meet a bunch of these people who played on these records too like steel players like Bruce Bouton he played on all the Garth Brooks stuff all the Shania Twain stuff Mark Hill and Brooks and Dunn and like literally talking to these people and I kind of went in through the musician side because I was so obsessed with like the craft of tech of the technical side before I got into writing and Ferg was more in like the songs and and and the experience and the the journey and the idea of artistry.

SPEAKER_04

So there were these two worlds kind of collided and can I just say we were actually talking today and you can tell from your music that you care so much about the instruments in and like the music behind the songs.

SPEAKER_05

That's a great compliment we were literally saying like we're not musically trained so we're just gonna butcher what we're gonna say but we can tell that you're both very musically technically talented.

SPEAKER_02

That's very kind of no that's just what we're it's yeah it's we hold a pretty high bar and and keep each other on our toes and I have a I have the the the whip of of Russian women literally Russian women who educated me in piano that was so bound on like technique and intention and execution of like what you're doing. Like my my let my greatest lesson in all of this stuff was anytime I sat at the piano they were like what are you doing? And I was like I'm you know I'm playing Chopin Ich whatever number this and they're like yeah but what are you doing? Like why are you playing it? And I was like well because you've told me to play it.

SPEAKER_06

And they're like no that's not the right answer.

SPEAKER_02

Like what are you doing? Like when you sit at the piano what are you doing? When you pick up a guitar what are you doing? What's your intention? Are you trying to create something magical or you're just fucking going through the motions and it was like a really important lesson to have as a kid of like you don't just sit at the piano and push the buttons. These people didn't make this stuff for you to just like rote learn and like execute without thought it was like this is these are this the stories of like their spirit and their heart the their existence at the time and it was just like imagine having that lesson drilled into you as a kid of being like okay and kind of not they knew that I couldn't conceive it as an adolescent but they knew they were planting the right thing and that's what I've tried to impart into all when we have our discussion about music it's like when f like Ferg's accustomed to my my my vocal production style but other people aren't and when I get in and it can be like quite severe sometimes and it's just like can you talk us through like what you mean by your vocal production style like if like if I'm tracking something I'm with Ferg I I I can be really strict but we've done it for so long that he's he's ingested and adapted like all he his technicianship is so far higher now because we've traveled this way together to be like if you're intending a line you get you you're literally putting your entire constitution into it. You're not just singing a line to so it's in tune and this and that the other and like trying to drill that into like versions it's like me looking at myself when the when like this teacher was like what are you doing? Like when you step up to the microphone what are you doing? Like what do you want to achieve when you open your mouth do you want to just sing your song and say the words or do you want to move like an entire do you want to move a humanity with what you're doing.

SPEAKER_03

And sometimes you can't just like intend to find the right energy and then find it. Sometimes you need to like dig and find it and put constraints on yourself or push or something like that. And then you might come in the next day and the first time you sing it you'd be like oh there it is and that's how we've created the greatest album ever made.

SPEAKER_05

That was a great segue how did you come up with the name Midnight Maverick It was a tour name that we had and we just we sort of it sort of summarizes our kind of stuck.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah we did a Midnight Maveric tour. Okay. You know a Maverick is someone who takes risks and goes against the grain and um and that's kind of how we You looked you found an anecdote about Mavericks where it was a guy Tot came up with it. No maybe she did she Yeah I found I came up with it.

SPEAKER_02

No you know you know no you didn't come up with it but you found a definition about there was a a guy named something Maverick and he was like a lawyer we named it after Tom Cruise which is hilarious because we do we because we we do have it we have one of our merch t-shirts is it says Kingswood in the Top Gun font and it's got like these we'll give you guys one it's they're really cool. No and he was some guy named Maverick and he had he he was a lawyer or something but he he ended up having a plot of land with all these cows and he wouldn't brand them and so because they're unbranded cows and they they would just like roam or whatever and no one knew who they were they were like oh they're Mavericks they're like unconventional.

SPEAKER_05

He's unconventional because he doesn't tag I mean he doesn't random and I don't know yeah you guys don't have any branding on you do you uh of ourselves.

SPEAKER_02

Are you talking about Dylan Buckley? Is that what you're talking about he keeps he keeps sending me updates on his random it's not getting better Dyl.

SPEAKER_05

It's just not getting better. It's been months no it has been months it's not it's been months it's not gonna no I don't think it will ever no who is your cowgirl crush this week of the week this week?

SPEAKER_02

It happens weekly week there was a period there it was happening daily we've moved on from Tim Roller you can have a moment to do it no no no I've got it there's an my girlfriend's gonna be like how are you so quick to reference this did you guys watch the last season of Yellowstone where Bella had did pretends to be Tyler's well she's like a cowgirl but she actually does ride and does compete do you know this she dated a bull rider as well and she can and she she like she does a bit of like I think did she barrel race maybe I'm not sure she both did growing up I'm sure yeah yeah so her in that episode oh my god great choice just remind me and you guys might remember who was Yellow Dress on the satellite stage Emily Ann Roberts unbelievable amazing performance so cool unbelievable yeah I actually I don't think I really commented on the post and I said no you were actually talking about Jordan Davis and I yeah are you a Jordan Davis fan? Yeah did you guys I like when Marcus came out with Jordan I love Marcus I like it.

SPEAKER_03

Ooh um I'll throw in a second very quick Caitlin Butts interesting very quick very quick Caitlyn butts I mean you have to I mean I feel like it's obvious but we Langers is gonna is gonna be up the top for a long time.

SPEAKER_05

Um Ella Langley's yeah Langers okay are you guys on the same basis are you?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah we were like four feet from her and she rose she rose like a phoenix I don't know at the moment do you want to go?

SPEAKER_05

I'd say Tyler Rodriguez Tyler I think you would say that too Tyler Rodriguez we spent too much time together as well yeah yeah it's good okay who is more likely to crowd surf God do we both answer?

SPEAKER_03

I'd say maybe I was crowd surfed I'd say Ferg probably now was a bit of a punk punk rock I think it I think it's you were um I used to mosh and crowd surf a lot and then I stopped could we see it tonight? I think I think because I wanted to watch and listen to bands rather than just be like well you don't really know what's going on you're just like going through like a crazy live thing which is amazing. Yeah but I think when you when you turn like 17 you're like I just want to watch the band now.

SPEAKER_04

In in early Kingswood days I used to play guitar solos whilst crowds can we bring that back tonight a consistent theme I would love to see that do it again tonight.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah tonight I'm not trusting enough of people with my body and he also used to dive he used to dive into drum kits as well you can I trust you can get some strong people around you but but when you when you broach when you cross over to like beyond 30 if someone drops you it's I'm not I'm just not taking that risk. When I was like I was like 23 if someone dropped me over what you dive into drum kits. Just to drive dive into drum kits with guitars is absolute stupidity the answer is ferg. Yeah who's the most likely to cry over a country song uh you don't you don't share how much you cry I mean uh I I cry a private cry I I'm quite a lot we both talked about how we both cried over for I just cr I just cried at the Opry I just literally cried at the Opry yeah with Keith doing a Don Williams song called I Can't Get to You From Here it was unbelievable. Yeah I cried at the Mongam we're both I I I can I can do between that's very yeah what song did you cry to though?

SPEAKER_04

Which song was it?

SPEAKER_02

Was it the piano?

SPEAKER_03

Whiskey glasses was it at the piano cover me up it's not even his song that's a Jason Isabel song yeah yeah yeah yeah beautiful song unbelievably good song what was the last song you cried to uh lie I saw Bonnie Raitt do I Can't Make You Love Me Bluesfest I can shed tear to like instrumental music okay really yeah absolutely okay who's the biggest diva no I was gonna say who what was your last cook song oh I cried just it's it's a hard oh it's not it's definitely not it's definitely it's about you guys it's definitely not hard well I don't know it's a tri it's a tricky one there's nothing tricky about it no there is what's tricky about it uh because you if you're if you're in a bad mood it's the answer's you depends on your mood but but if I'm in a bad mood I'm I'm just I'm just strict I don't I don't demand I'm just strict whereas you no I think you demand where's your demanding you guys like a married couple um I feel like I'm a couple have you got new underwear did you get new underwear who is more likely to crash the bus Ben out of the two of you it's a hard thing I mean I'd I just have to go off history and say ow.

SPEAKER_02

I know I did drive the bus into a into a pagolo I was just hit he's hit just why we have this beautiful window.

SPEAKER_03

He's just hit some more things than I have fantastic nice you know that remember we've both backed it into something I'll drove over a sign delivery you've hit a few more things than me I think but but my sign my sign driving was was considered and then thought about and then just I just committed to it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah that was not a great idea but hey it didn't slice the under underside of the bus up did it I thought it would have give us your best your your nicknames that you have for each other a lucky aluckna a lucky something like that lucky lucky lucky just lucky for me lucky Garsi uh guzwa fairagus oh I like gozwa like a baby Vegaso something like that I like that yeah yeah who's most likely to get drunk at a bar and shout a round of shots for everyone does it all the time do it all the time who's most likely to survive longer in if we drop you in like the Outback oh we're we're both pretty resourceful actually we're both pretty good yeah we're both pretty outdoors if you put us together we'd fucking we would we'd have so much covered we'd we'd we'd build a commune if we'd be fucked no our powers combined we'd we'd fuck you'd be like whoa there's a uh two tiered terrace what kind of powers do you have oh um collecting water yeah uh shelter buildings for lizards plumbing knowing which lizards to eat and not to eat electricity um swooning other humans with songs yeah yeah yeah we'd draw we'd maybe even start a cult or something out there oh okay if we put you on a reality TV show which one would it be the block um you'd be on my kitchen rules or um oh yeah sure or or uh master chef is it all that microwave or yeah but only I'm a I'm the I'm a yeah I'm sorry you really jump at the answer calling myself a great cook but yeah that that would be fun I'd like to that's you you're passionate about that too yeah yeah I could do I can I'm I prefer building stuff but okay you can build what about you guys what would you be on oh big brother big oh you I could see that 100% maybe you and I could block together but we also are architects so surely like we could do pretty well big brother would be way more fun it's not a terrible idea you guys gonna go on the block together yeah yeah it's not we can do that and then you're like a splinter and you're like nah why if you question us about physics you guys have to learn all about physics and tensile things architects are good at maths you do not need to know maths that's not my problem okay you use a you use a CAD or something and a slide rule yeah the cat the cat not a cat the cat's the canvas called the easel that you can old school that's a drawing board but no that's I've never used one in my life that's so weird that you brought up easel because a woman took one from this from that a woman at the front at the front of the front of Pafford drive she took an easel and walked past me with it. It's like oh I was like she's like yeah they're clearing out the house we've got I got an easel and I was like cool easel easel's good easels are good I've never used one I don't need our life well guys thank you so much oh that's it I thought we went you don't you don't know more who who oh I have another one who's most likely to forget the words to a song Ferguson no we both do it every now and then but I'd say probably me more often but you know what we do do well I don't know if Ferg does this I do this yeah we both I do this all the time I do this all the time and one of the great superpowers of Kingswood is they all get it real quick so I'll flip the verses I do this a lot and when I so I'll fuck it up and I'll go to second verse harmonise you gotta match it and then and then they know that I'm gonna go for the first verse and they all go they always get it the only one the one that gets you is Big City you always start it like in the middle of something like I reckon once you literally started the song and went waiting waiting so along that was actually one of the first ever country songs we we put together. I w I wrote a song we took it into the label and they're like what the fuck is this country song? You guys are a rock and roll band and we're like okay we'll make it like the Beatles then it was like back in the day.

SPEAKER_04

When country wasn't cool again guys.

SPEAKER_03

It's never not cool.

SPEAKER_04

Alright so tell tell people where they can find you we're on this bus right now we're outside the uh the archive beer hall uh we're we're at uh Kingswood band on the socials Kingswood music Kingswood just look at Kingswood but make sure it's make sure it doesn't have to do with the holding yeah is um this is the first time everyone's anyone's asking to do that or yeah we're not very good on Twitch media we're not good at we're you can email me at uh what's my my MSN messenger address send the one in the PO box 1177 Windsor we do have a PO box it is 1177 Windsor in the show notes yeah um Kings would Kings and I just looked you up but listen to our new album called Midnight Mavericks there we go there we have it guys buy vinyl buy cassette we've got cassettes do people still have cassette I don't know if they've got them but they certainly buy our cassettes maybe as ornamental pieces perhaps perhaps well guys we can't wait to come back on Peggy another time we can't wait to have you it's been amazing it's been amazing thanks so much for coming to Ladies Love Country thanks so much for you that's a wrap on this week's episode of Ladies Love Country if you laughed learned something or just love a bit of chaos give us a follow leave us a review you'll find us on Instagram and TikTok at Ladies Love Country with extra gossip and behind the scenes cowboy grade nonsense until next time and you play this loud