Episode 15: Quantum & Energy Medicine to Boost Your Fertility Success with Dr. Kela Smith

Episode Summary: 

In this conversation, Dr. Kela Smith shares her journey through infertility and how she discovered the importance of quantum and energy medicine, mindset, and holistic health in optimizing fertility. She discusses the role of diet and lifestyle changes, the impact of beliefs on fertility, and the principles of quantum medicine. Dr. Kela also shares success stories from her practice, food energetics, and how to address dietary restrictions. She concludes with insights on her upcoming books and encourages listeners to maintain hope in their fertility journey.

Key Takeaways:

• Your fertility journey involves more than just physical health.
• Mindset and beliefs play a crucial role in fertility.
• Dietary changes can significantly impact fertility outcomes.
• Quantum medicine offers a holistic approach to health.
• Energy medicine can help shift limiting beliefs.
• Success stories highlight the power of mindset and energy.
• Food is not just nutrition; it's also energy for the body.
• Addressing trauma can be key in fertility struggles.
• Vegan diets can be adapted for fertility with proper guidance.
• There is always hope and solutions for those struggling with infertility.

Dr. Kela Smith's Bio: 

Dr. Kela Smith, Ph.D., DNM, DHM, MNM, BCFN, BCHC, is a leading Holistic Integrative Fertility & Hormone Doctor dedicated to supporting women and couples facing fertility challenges. After overcoming her own fertility struggles using the Hormone P.U.Z.Z.L.E Method, it has been her mission to help others solve their infertility puzzles so they can get and stay pregnant, have a healthy, happy pregnancy, and have easy postpartum. She is an accomplished author and hosts ⁠The Hormone Puzzle Podcast⁠, ⁠Solving-Infertility Summit⁠, and ⁠Healthy Happy Pregnancy Summit⁠. Join her in solving the infertility puzzle at ⁠www.hormonepuzzlesociety.com⁠

Resources & Links Mentioned & How To Connect With Dr. Kela Smith's:

• Instagram: ⁠@kela_healthcoach⁠ and ⁠@hormonepuzzlemethod⁠
• Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/kelahealthcoach⁠
• LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelarobinsonsmith⁠
• FREE Gift: https://hormonepuzzlesociety.com/egg-health-guide/

Please Note: The contents of this podcast are intended for educational and informational purposes only. The information provided should not be construed as clinical advice, used as a substitute for professional healthcare guidance, or for discontinuing medical care or treatment. Always consult a qualified medical professional or healthcare provider for personalized medical advice, diagnoses, or treatment. 

Transcript

Lindsay Goodwin (00:00)
I absolutely love my guest today on Fertile Frequencies Radio. I have the amazing Dr. Kela Smith, and she's a leading holistic integrative fertility and hormone doctor after overcoming her own fertility struggles using the hormone puzzle method.

It has been her mission to help others solve their infertility puzzles so they can get and stay pregnant, have a healthy, happy pregnancy, and easy postpartum. She's also an accomplished author and host the Hormone Puzzle Podcast, Solving Infertility Summit, and Healthy Happy Pregnancy Summit.

Dr. Kela's expertise also extends to guiding and inspiring future fertility experts as the lead educator at the Hormone Puzzle Society Educational Institute. With a vast experience and dedication to holistic health, she's a renowned authority in her field. Join her in solving the infertility puzzle at hormonepuzzlesociety.com.

Lindsay Goodwin (01:09)
Are you feeling exhausted, burnt out or overwhelmed on your fertility journey? Do you feel like there is way more to your success than the tired worn out idea that your fertility is only about your physical body and hormones? Well, beautiful mama, you're in the right place. Welcome to Fertile Frequencies Radio, the radio show created for you to empower you on your fertility journey and finally give you a baby.

Join me, Lindsay Goodwin, natural reproductive medicine and energetic spiritual fertility expert, as we clear away the doubts, reframe the struggles into fertile wins and turn what-ifs into big celebrations. Together, we'll unlock the tools to manifest your healthy pregnancy and baby. Fertile Frequencies Radio, your infinite fertile possibilities begins now.

Speaker 1 (02:07)
Welcome back to Fertile Frequencies. I am so excited for my guest today. We have Dr. Kela on the show and she is absolutely wonderful. I recently was on her fertility summit and she can talk more about that as well as what she does. So today Dr. Kela is going to talk about optimizing fertility through quantum medicine as well as energy medicine.

and lots of other great, great, amazing conversation in store for you today. So welcome Dr. Kela.

Speaker 2 (02:39)
Thanks, Lindsay. I'm really excited to be here and honored to be on your show.

Speaker 1 (02:43)
Awesome.

Well, we are so excited that you're here as well. let's just go ahead and jump in. talking about, we are really are interested to know about your story and how you got into the work of fertility and pregnancy support and how it relates to all these wonderful, unique ⁓ energy, healing modalities like quantum medicine and how that relates to your story.

Speaker 2 (03:10)
Sure, well thank you for that. And my story started out of my own personal struggle with infertility, as I'm sure most people's do. My husband and I got pregnant and we thought it would be really easy to, or my husband and got married, we thought it would be easy to get pregnant and we quickly learned that it wasn't. And so we went to our conventional doctor and told her we were trying. She ran a bunch of tests, told us we were unexplained infertility and to keep trying. And so that's what we did.

It still didn't work. And so then she recommended we see a fertility clinic in town. And so we went there. They ran a bunch of tests, gave us the same diagnosis. But then by this point, I was 36 and they said, we really recommend that you do IVF. This is probably gonna be your only option. IUI, we kind of missed that boat. So they really wanted us to start with IVF. And so that's when I said,

wait a minute, you just told me there was nothing medically wrong with me. You want me to do this invasive medical procedure and that just didn't sit well with me. And so I left that office being determined to figure out why I had unexplained infertility and it really get an explanation. And so that's what I did. I dove into research. This was before Instagram or Facebook or any of the TikToks. And I literally went to my local library and I was like, okay, what causes infertility?

be my problem and I dug into that research and I figured it out and we can talk more about that and some things that I did. But once I figured it out, I implemented these strategies and I ended up getting pregnant not once but twice and I had my two babies. My last one was born when I was 40 years old and at 40 with a newborn and a two year old, I went back to school and I said I have to teach this and so I got certified and then I went on to get my PhD.

and I started my company and this was eight years ago and now I work with women and couples all over the world and help them figure out the root cause of why they're not getting pregnant. I help them heal that root and get pregnant. And so that's my story and I've written a bunch of books and I have a podcast and I just have a wonderful practice that helps a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (05:19)
Thank you so much for sharing that. you know, it's really interesting. I feel that so many people are just that's first thing that's thrown at them is let's do IVF, let's do fertility treatments. And we're really not looking at this, the energy side, the mindset, really thinking about how the body is actually listening to what the mind is telling it.

Well, I am, and I know the listeners are too, absolutely so excited to hear more about exactly what you did. And you had mentioned that you had started implementing some of this research that you had discovered in your own journey. And so do you want to tell us a little bit more about that?

Speaker 2 (05:59)
Sure.

So I determined, and this wasn't even told to me by my doctors, but just doing research and looking at my lifestyle and my body, I actually had hypothalamic amenorrhea. I was not having a period because I was a personal trainer at the time and I was very thin and I was over-exercising and under-eating and my cycle went missing. And my doctor never asked me about my cycle. She never said, are you ovulating? Are you having a period? Is it healthy? So that was the big piece.

working on, okay what do need to do to get my cycle back? And it was a lot of nourishing foods. I thought okay I was eating healthy, but I wasn't eating enough. I wasn't eating enough fat or protein, so I really started to implement that along with adding in fertility friendly foods. I started upping my greens and getting you know some choline through eggs and making sure I had enough folate, fatty acids through fish.

and just really optimizing my diet, not just for health, but for fertility. And so once I started doing that for a couple of months, my cycle actually came back. And so that was like step number one. Okay, I have a cycle. I was 36 and I started tracking my ovulation. And so once my cycle came back, then my ovulation kind of, I was able to see like, okay, this is actually happening how it should. I was tracking cervical mucus and BBT. So that was kind of the first place I really started.

I gained some weight, I think I said that. The other piece of it was, and we'll talk about this as it relates to energy medicine and quantum medicine, but I had the belief that my body was broken and that I couldn't get pregnant just based on what my doctor who I trusted was telling me. And I really had to work on that belief of, no, you can get pregnant, your body is.

That's what it was made to do as a woman. And once we heal and give it the things that it needs to work optimally, then it can and it will get pregnant. So I just really repeated, I had a mantra that I would say and just really repeated that to myself. And I feel that helped my mindset change, which helped my energetic body change. And then my physical body kind of followed suit. So that was really the main things, the belief in changing my diet.

Also my lifestyle, you know, I was working out a lot. was working a lot. And I remember my mom said to me, you just need to slow down. You need to slow down. You need to gain some weight and your body will heal. And I thought she was crazy. I was like, what? I'm not slowing down. can't, I'm in the prime of my career. But I did need to slow down. And so that's one of the things I also did is I just took a step back and I slowed down and I...

nurtured myself and nourished myself and those are really the main things I feel that helped me one, get my cycle back, but also that helped me get pregnant.

Speaker 1 (08:48)
Yeah, and that's absolutely incredible. I know it's not fun to go through what you went through of having infertility and really having to figure out the missing pieces here to be able to manifest your two babies into your physical experience. But it led to you, it led you to your purpose. And so you were working in the health and wellness industry already, which I'd be interested to know too, at that time,

were you doing nutrition? Were you working with other kinds of clients? Is that really where you would like it was physical fitness, nutrition, and then after your fertility journey, you start expanding out and getting more research and education further deeper into like the testing and really working with hormones.

Speaker 2 (09:30)
Yes, so I was a personal trainer for 10 years. had my own company. So I knew hell. I thought I knew health, but.

As a personal trainer, now it's better, but back then, like 13 to 15 years ago, it was really like, how skinny can you be? How much can you limit your calories? How much, like low fat, no fat, no carbs. And so that's what I thought was healthy. And so that's really what I was teaching. And I was working with weight loss and a lot of women. And so that was kind of my platform. Well, once I started struggling with infertility and I started researching and learning, that's not what you need for fertility,

then I kind of went down a rabbit hole and was like, okay, well, I've been doing this all wrong, you know? So I really switched and I changed my practice and that's when I went back to school. I decided I wanted to be a health coach. You that was the first certification that I got because that was kind of the low hanging fruit.

Back then, I was like, I should go back and get my PhD, but that wasn't feasible with a newborn and a two-year-old. And so I started as a health coach. And then two years into my practice, I really wanted to learn more about nutrition and the right pieces of nutrition versus what I had learned in personal training school. And so I went back and I got a certification as a nutritionist.

And then about two years after that, then my kids were a little bit older and I thought I really still want that PhD. Like it was in the back of my head. Like I really want to learn as much as I can about functional medicine and natural medicine. And I really have those credentials behind my name. So that's when I went back and got my PhD and master's in natural medicine and and

Now I teach more holistic nutrition, fertility nutrition, the pieces that I feel help more than what I was doing as a personal trainer.

Speaker 1 (11:17)
Yeah, yeah, that's absolutely amazing. So congrats on all that. It's incredible to be able to love what you do. It's not work when you really love what you're doing. You're creating, you're helping other people create the lives that they truly desire to have and are meant to have. So quick question for you, because I feel like this is a really important question and we're going to talk definitely more about the quantum medicine, energy medicine.

because that is super exciting and I know that I'm so excited for this conversation, but how do you handle talking with someone that maybe is struggling with infertility? Like they exercise a lot, they're feeling very...

you worried about their image and they just, want to do what they want to do and they're not going to, it's harder to get them to eat more protein or eat more fat, to really change, not exercise much. Cause I see that. And that's what I'm curious about is how you actually handle a situation like that.

Speaker 2 (12:21)
Yeah, well first that was me. I did not want to change at all and I was very resistant to doing that. I was resistant to gaining weight because my image, you you're wrapped up in your physical body and my image was I was the skinny personal trainer, you know, even though I had muscle, I had very low body fat. And so I will tell somebody first that they have to believe that they can change and that it's okay to change and step down and really

refocus your activity, your movement, your food towards this new goal of getting pregnant. And I know for me, I just wanted permission to do that. I wanted somebody to tell me it's okay if you don't work out 24-7 and you don't, you you eat a little bit of food. Your body needs food. So I really just try to hold my client's hand and let them know that one, I want you to have the belief that this can happen, and two, I want you to know that it's okay and that

really you're gonna feel even better when you start to implement these changes and 10 times out of 10 they come back to me and say, my gosh, I feel amazing. I didn't gain weight or if they needed to gain weight and they gained a little, they actually feel better and they like love their body even more. And so it's really a game changer when you have that person that's supporting you telling you like, it's okay, you can do this and this is how you do it. And then they get the results and they love the fact that they did it in the first place.

So, and then that's their new lifestyle. Once they start to adopt, you know, more ⁓ nourishing movement, more nourishing food, then they really start to say like, love how I feel, I love how I look even better than I did before. So it's really beautiful to watch and to help support somebody through that.

Speaker 1 (14:07)
It is because a fertility journey is not just about manifesting the baby into your life. It's about really finding your purpose and really being in alignment with your truth and what you came here for to accomplish ⁓ on a soul journey. absolutely, I think that, you know, it's it is beautiful, like you said, to really watch someone blossom and

to really be in that energy where they not only get the pregnancy, but also enjoy this new version of themselves and being a parent as well is really, really powerful. how would you explain quantum medicine and how this optimizes your fertility?

Speaker 2 (14:48)
Yeah, so quantum medicine is really the idea that we're not just physical beings, but we are mental, emotional, and spiritual. And so instead of looking at just the physical form, which is what most people do in Western medicine, conventional medicine, they're looking at the body and the systems and the parts as different individual parts. Well, quantum medicine looks at the mindset.

the energetic body, your thoughts, feelings, and emotions can affect the way that your physical body manifests itself and manifests its symptoms. And they really believe that it's a top-down approach. Quantum medicine, one of the main philosophies is that it's top-down. So it really starts with your bliss body, which is that higher, all-knowing, the spirit, whether you believe in God or whatever higher being you believe in, that's where it starts.

And then that goes into your supramental, which is your intuition body, that all knowing, the you knowing, not the higher power knowing, but you actually internally knowing what to do for your body, mind and spirit. Then it goes to the mental, thoughts, feelings and emotions. How do you feel about something? What is the belief system that you have? What are the stories that you've created? All of this ties into how your energetic body responds.

This is the meridian channel. This is what acupuncturists work on, that energetic being that flows through all of us. And then that goes into your physical body. So everything's controlled from the top down versus conventional medicine says the physical body is really what needs to be healed and what we're looking at. So it's just a different philosophy of medicine and a different approach.

and one that I found is very powerful and and it's actually been used for thousands of years around the world by many different medicines. If you look at Ayurvedic medicine or you know traditional Chinese medicine, they're all using this kind of quantum physics if you will, and it's really powerful.

Speaker 1 (16:52)
That's amazing. Well, I definitely, you preaching the choir here. That is so much about what the show is about and also about my philosophy. And, you know, as an acupuncturist who's been doing this a long time, specializing in reproductive medicine and fertility, I have found that there's so many people that, they are just doing one part of it. So acupuncture is a very energetic.

a spiritual medicine But you know, so many people will get acupuncture for years and years and years and are not getting pregnant because you have to focus on the energy first, you have to focus on the belief system, you have to focus on the subconscious mind. Because if you're running those programs that you know, limiting beliefs, you can do acupuncture, you can do supplements, you can do diets, you can do all kinds of different

treatments, you can do IVF. mean, why is there so much unexplained infertility then?

You have to focus on the mind first with everything in your life. And so that's incredible. So thank you so much for explaining that and sharing that information with us. as far as there might be people that might question quantum medicine, energy medicine.

And how would you explain this to people that might have doubt? how would you, you know, there are people that are on the verge of things. and we see that a lot because we're mavericks really in what we're doing and it's very unique. there's gonna be people that are gonna come to you that they're curious, but they might be on the fence about it. So how would you explain that to them and how this could be beneficial for their journey?

Speaker 2 (18:33)
Yeah, sure. I think skepticism is, you know, it's a natural human emotion and I think it's good to be a skeptic, but you can't argue with the science. And the science is already catching up to this. If you look at fields like epigenetics, neuroscience, even quantum biology.

They all say that we're energetic beings and you can't argue that you do have energy inside you. I don't care how of an unbeliever you are, we do have energy and it's what keeps us alive. So really looking at that and looking at those fields of study, think just give it a chance and give it, know, start to utilize it in your own life and see the results that you get. Even just changing one belief at a time. You know, if you believe that

my body's broken and then I'll never heal. Just switch that around like I'm not broken and I can heal and see the magic that comes into your life. I promise you will not be a skeptic for long once you start to adopt this philosophy. So I can't say enough good things about quantum medicine. I just think it's a beautiful practice and one that everybody should try.

Speaker 1 (19:44)
I love it. Well, thank you for that. And just to add to that, do you have a favorite story that you like to talk about of maybe a client of yours that really is maybe someone that was skeptical and they chose to trust?

and move into this unknown territory and have these amazing results.

Speaker 2 (20:06)
yeah, I have so many stories. I mean, I work on this with every client that I work with. But one story in particular that I love is I was working with a lady or a couple. They were trying to get pregnant for about three years. And when she came in, she was, you know, completely broken. Her words just had been told by conventional medicine that she could not get pregnant. And they had done a couple of rounds of IVF and it had failed. And she just was at the end of the road, kind of rope and just

was really frustrated and just didn't know where to turn. So we started working together and I told her to do something which I find is so cool. But I said, I want you to go and get a picture of what you think your future child will look like. And it can look like you and your husband. It can be, you know, look like an uncle or an aunt or just get a picture so you have something physical that you can look at and you can put that in your mind's eye.

So that's what she did. She got a picture off the internet and put it over her bed. And every night she looked at this picture of this little girl. The little girl had dark hair. Her and her husband both were ⁓ Spanish descent and they had dark hair and dark eyes. And so...

They had this little picture of this little girl and she looked at it every day and said her mantra that we created together for her to say. And in about four months, she got pregnant, which was amazing because she'd been trying for like three years and done failed cycles. And so she finally was pregnant and she gave birth. And I promise you that little girl looked exactly like that picture. It was so crazy. And they were just, obviously they were thrilled.

It was just a beautiful picture and it goes to show and prove what we've been talking about that you can manifest things. It's not woo woo. It's calling in the energy that you want in your life. then, and we can't even get into the talk of spirit babies that could have been her spirit baby up there waiting for her to invite it in. so it was just a beautiful story and I have thousands of those stories and it's just, really, really cool.

Speaker 1 (22:04)
Yeah, well, that's absolutely amazing. Thank you for sharing that and that for your client they they worked with you and you were able to really help them and and that's absolutely incredible. And yes, it is manifestation. I tell people all the time. It's not as hard as you think. There's all these different techniques and it's just not it's it's learning how to switch on. I know something is happening for me.

and not having the doubt. And that can be hard when you've struggled with things like ⁓ fertility obstacles. ⁓ You have to work back. It's like peeling an onion. You know, you have to peel back the layers. So it's not always just that easy, but it really is. It's not this big, like you said, this big woo woo thing. And science is really proving that what we think about is actually manifesting.

Do something small manifest a cup of coffee that day or manifest a parking spot or, you know, manifest someone reaching out to you that hasn't called you in a while or whatever it is. But don't be attached. Don't think about it all day long obsessing over it. It's just really

allowing it to flow and come in. And that is, you mentioned spare babies, that is something as a spare baby medium that really they will, the babies will actually share with me when I'm delivering messages to my clients is that it's really letting go of the outcome, knowing that I'm coming, believing, knowing, believing, say believing, but knowing is very much more stronger.

Yes, the visualization, it's interesting how we have intuitive connections to things and we don't even realize it. Like what you had mentioned with your client that she had this visualization. She just picked out that picture and the baby looks like her and her husband. I've seen that with kids that come that have been adopted or also through egg donation or sperm donation that they will actually look like the one, the person that did not actually contribute.

You know that egg or sperm so it's interesting. I believe that when a soul is meant to be with you They're meant to be with you and they're gonna have those characteristics That the body is just a shell, know, it's really not the it's really not who you are It's just a body. So well, that's incredible I'm sure that you have thousands of stories because you help so many people and I absolutely love that

I know that you did a study on this and I'm super excited to hear about that, the study on fertility and quantum medicine.

Speaker 2 (24:36)
So I did a study for my dissertation research paper. ⁓

where it was called optimizing fertility through quantum medicine. And I got 12 people to do this study with me. And all of these people had been working on getting pregnant. Some of them had been struggling for four years, some were at two years, three years. They all had a common theme of they had infertility. And there was different cases. I had one lady that had PCOS, one lady had endo. One of the main themes that I didn't realize when I

first, you know, kind of gathered the people that I wanted to work with in the study because all I said was, you been struggling to get pregnant? I'm doing a study if you want to apply and then I had people apply. So, but one of the main themes of all 12 people, they all had trauma in their lives in the past, some even back to childhood trauma.

And so whenever we started working together, I worked with them through quantum medicine. So obviously we did the physical piece with nutrition and lifestyle, but then we also did the mindset, the mental and emotional pieces and really worked on their mindset shifts, really diving into their energy piece. I had them all carry a crystal. And so they tapped into the energy of the crystal.

We used herbs and so I had them drink herbal teas every day. So we tapped into that energy of the herbs and the medicinal qualities of the herbs. We did visualization and meditation every day. So really trying to hit every piece, mind, body and spirit to optimize their fertility. And so out of that study, it was a 12 week long study with 12 people. We had six people get pregnant.

And they all struggled with infertility, which was so cool and so crazy. And we were really happy with those results, a 60, 50 % success rate out of the 12 people. And now they have healthy babies. And you know, it was just really amazing. Everybody left the study healthier and you know, mind, body and spirit, then they came in and then, you know, we had the six people with the babies. So it was a really cool, cool study and we loved putting it on.

Speaker 1 (26:47)
That's incredible. mean, 50%. It's really amazing.

Speaker 2 (26:51)
I

Yeah, and I know we talked about this offline, but it's really hard to get people to do a study because they just don't have time. And so I'm like, what if that had been, you know, 50 people, 100 people, thousand people, it just could have been so much bigger. But 12 people, we were happy with the six that did get pregnant.

Speaker 1 (27:10)
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Well, and how much of that do you think was really and just how you feel about it? How much of that do you really think was more about the energy versus the physical?

Speaker 2 (27:22)
Yeah, I think they all play a role. don't think one is more important than the other, but without the energy, you're not going to affect the physical body. So I take that back. we had just done the physical, I think we wouldn't have had the results that we had. I think it all works together, but you can't have the energy and not work on the physical and vice versa. So. Right.

Speaker 1 (27:44)
Right, But for someone that is doing everything right, in quotes, that they're taking all the right supplements, they're doing the testing, they are getting acupuncture, they're working with a natural doctor, they're working with a fertility doctor, reproductive endocrinologist possibly, and they're doing meditations.

I find it interesting, why are they still not getting pregnant? I encourage my clients always to definitely focus on as much as they can, healthy diet, taking the right supplements, not all supplements are created equal, working with someone that truly is a professional versus that might not have the right training. I know that there's a lot of people online now and I'm always educating, making sure that people

do their research and who they're working with. that mindset work, I just feel like it's the biggest component to this. And yes, I definitely agree. I think the physical body is really important too. So I was just curious how you felt about that.

Speaker 2 (28:47)
If somebody is listening to this and they're doing all the things and mindset piece isn't a part of the equation, then they're definitely missing a huge piece. And that could be the one piece of why they're not getting pregnant. So I definitely agree with that. But I wouldn't say come in and you you're eating McDonald's every day and you're not sleeping and you're not moving. And then you're just going to think you're going to get pregnant and just you're like, I've got the mindset piece down.

that's not gonna work either. So you have to have both. But I do think mindset is very, very important and you have to have that.

Speaker 1 (29:19)
Definitely. I think that when we're in the right mindset, we make better choice too. And when your central nervous system is calm, you sleep better. I absolutely, it's definitely an integrative practice here with fertility for sure. Do you want to talk more about the energetics of food? I know that

Speaker 2 (29:23)
Yes.

Yes.

Speaker 1 (29:45)
before offline, we were talking about that. And that is something that I'm gonna talk soon on this show. And I would love it if you could share your take on that.

Speaker 2 (29:56)
Sure, well food is medicine and food is energy. That's literally what a calorie is, it's energy.

And so the food that you eat is going to give the body the energy that it needs to do all the functions that it needs to do. And how do you get the most energetic food? You eat real whole foods, foods that haven't been processed, foods that haven't been stripped of their nutrients. And by this, mean eating things like the colors of the rainbow, lots of leafy greens and lots of vegetables. If you can eat some of that raw, you you're doing some salads and things,

good you're not going to kill the nutrients by heating but I also know in Chinese medicine we don't want to eat a strictly cold diet because we want the uterus to be warm so I think you need to do a little bit of a combination of both. I also believe that animal protein is something that our body needs you know eating foods from the earth not just vegetables but also fish and meats and things that either had a mom or were living in the ground.

That's how the diet should be, and that's what's gonna give you the most energy in your body to be able to perform at peak performance. And so that's a little bit about the food and the energy. Also having food and plants, ⁓ the plants are getting the energy from the sun, and so then that's gonna go into your body and give you energy. So again, I think it's really important to have that balanced whole food nutrition, but focus heavily on plants.

a little bit of meat, some fish, some nuts and seeds, and that's really a beautiful fertility diet.

Speaker 1 (31:36)
thank you so much for all that Dr. Kayla. I couldn't agree with you more and with the Eastern philosophy, it can be challenging sometimes to work with someone that's vegan.

Speaker 2 (31:47)
Yes.

Speaker 1 (31:49)
I was vegan for many years and I prefer mostly a vegetarian diet, but I do eat some eggs and some fish every once in a while now. But how do you work with someone that's trying to conceive? What exactly do you talk with them about or someone that's absolutely resistant to animal protein? Because I feel that, you know, I don't, I've had people come to me that have felt like they worked with someone in the past that was

of militant about it and it made them feel really bad. So I definitely try not to do that even though we know that animal protein is very helpful for trying to conceive.

Speaker 2 (32:28)
Sure, well the first thing is a couple of things. I think this is a really good point of why it's helpful to work with somebody because they can work with your dietary restrictions and help you learn how to eat a vegan diet if that's what you choose to do for fertility. So I think that's the first place. Really meeting somebody where they are is the second place. If you're not open to eating animal protein, I would never force that on somebody. But that's also where we need to say, okay, we know that

protein, especially animal protein, is good for fertility and if you're not open to eating that then let's find other ways where we can get the protein that you need and make sure that you're not protein deficient because that is going to affect things like your hormone production, your immune system, your gut health. So we need to be really creative in creating a diet for you for your fertility journey. So maybe that means we're eating more beans, we're eating more, you know, plant-based proteins, we're still eating

lots of good quality vegetables, the quality of our food is where we need it, we're eating mostly organics, but we're really working within those diet constraints. So that's the first thing. And then the second thing I would say too is I would really find out why are you vegan in the first place? Because a lot of times when I have that conversation, people will tell me, because I think it's healthy, know plant-based is promoted as a really healthy diet.

And that's when we would just have a conversation and I would say, well, actually the studies show that eating animal protein can actually be more beneficial than not, but back to meeting the client where they are, I'm never gonna force it on them, but I'm gonna educate them as to why they might want to eat meat. And then if they choose still not to, then we would work on getting more creative and adding plant-based proteins.

So I think it can work either way, but if you're not eating animals, we do have to be really mindful and track, okay, are we getting enough protein? Are we getting enough fat? You can't just eat vegetables. I want you to eat a lot of vegetables, but you have to have all the macros in order to have a healthy diet, but also a fertility-focused one.

Speaker 1 (34:37)
Yeah, absolutely. And we find too, I know that I find that people that eat all plant based, it's not always the case. There are ways to do it correctly. Absolutely. It does require a lot of education and dedication just to make sure that you are doing it correctly. But a cold womb and you had mentioned that and we have to have not a hot womb, you know.

have it too hot in there. But we have to have a warm womb to really build and nurture life. so I was especially with my IVF clients over the years, I've mentioned that if you were an embryo, would you prefer Antarctica or would you prefer Hawaii? You'd probably say, well, I'd want to be on the beach, you know. ⁓

is they're gonna want a warm womb space and definitely ways in Chinese medicine that we see is a lot of blood clots, cramping, ⁓ that those are definitely signs of a cold womb and also wearing socks since I'm talking about the cold womb. Making sure that you're wearing socks and not walking around on a cold floor.

Well, definitely, I appreciate all of that. And I know sometimes it can be challenging with plant-based diets. And I'm the same. I try to meet my clients where they are. I never want people to ever feel bad or guilty about things or shameful, ⁓ because that's not good for your fertility journey either. That's probably one of the main areas that people really struggle with that are experiencing fertility obstacles

And you would mention this earlier in your study about the trauma and so much of that's coming way before the fertility journey too. And a lot of it, most of it's in childhood most likely. So absolutely couldn't agree with you more on that. I know that you have a couple of books coming out, which is super exciting. there is actually, you have seven books that you've, ⁓ written already. So there's lots of,

Wonderful information out there that you can pick up from dr. Kayla. Do you want to tell us a little bit about your books coming up?

Speaker 2 (36:47)
So my first one is a cookbook and it's coming out. This is my second cookbook. I haven't done one though in about eight years. So this will be really fun and it's optimizing AMH and egg health. And so this will be a full meal plan around foods that you can eat to focus on optimizing your AMH and your egg health. AMH for those listening who don't know, it's anti-malarion hormone and this can show us your egg reserve. And so if you're somebody who's had that test and it's under one,

It is low and we need to work on fixing it. That's one thing that conventional medicine does not tell you is that you can improve that. So if you have had that test and it is low, it can be improved through the right diet and lifestyle. So that's what that book will teach you how to do. Some really delicious recipes in there, easy to prepare and with lots of nutritious foods for fertility and egg health and AMH.

So that's the first book coming out this quarter. And then I actually have a little mini book that is the freebie for this talk, this podcast. We'll give that at the end and they can get a copy of like, it's just a little snippet from the book with a couple of recipes in there so they can see what it's all about. So that's the first book. And then the second book is coming out depending on the editor, third quarter, we're thinking second or third quarter.

And that book is called Solving Your Infertility Puzzle, Your Guide to Optimized Fertility. And so I go through my story, the pieces of the hormone puzzle that I talk about for foundational fertility, and then I go through all my lab testing that I recommend, what the functional labs are that I do, what do they show, what are the parameters on reading them, what protocols would I use with them, and so it's a really...

deep dive into some things that you might have not thought about that could be affecting your fertility and how to identify those and what to do to heal. And so that book is going to be really amazing and I can't wait to share it with the world. So yeah, look for those books. They'll be on Amazon and on our websites and we'll talk about the website at the end.

Speaker 1 (38:51)
Yeah, that's absolutely incredible. Well, congratulations on that and all the other content that you have out, even if it was seven or I think you said seven or eight years ago, that your last book and it's just to yeah, it's wonderful that you have all that out there for people. And going back to the AMH, I love that you brought that up. You know, I've seen that over the years. I try to educate on that as well that.

people are told that they can't change that, which is incredibly not true. In fact, I had someone recently that's over 40 and she had an AMH that was under 0.5. And through working together, through doing a lot of mindset work as well as acupuncture, herbs, and then she also did a ovarian rejuvenation procedure. the PRP as well.

Her AMH went up to over one in about less than six months. I think it was about five months. So the doctors were just kind of like, and she's like, you told me I couldn't fix this. Absolutely, you can fix it. we have to empower people and educate people to know that they're not stuck. There's a lot of solutions here. It's just really finding the tools.

And people like you, Dr. Kela, are really helping people to know that there is hope. And so that's absolutely incredible. So do you want to tell us more about the free gift that you had mentioned for optimizing egg quality?

Speaker 2 (40:24)
Yeah, so it's the egg health guide that I was just speaking of earlier. It's a little snippet of the cookbook that's coming out, but I talk about different strategies for optimizing your AMH, improving it, causing it to go up, as well as strengthening the quality of your eggs. And then there's some recipes in that guide that go through different nutrients that are specifically for optimizing eggs and AMH. And even though this is written about eggs and AMH, the same rules apply for sperm. So your partner and your

They can eat these recipes too and it will help their sperm health as well. So yeah, so I'm sure you'll put this in the show notes, but for those listening, you get this at hormonepuzzlesociety.com slash egg dash health dash guide and that'll give you a free copy.

Speaker 1 (41:11)
Well, thanks so much for sharing that and you do have a summit

Speaker 2 (41:15)
Yeah, so our summit actually just passed, but they can still access it and it's at solving-infertility.com.

Speaker 1 (41:23)
That's amazing. just real quick, just tell us a little bit about what the summit is about.

Speaker 2 (41:29)
Yeah, so we had 97 speakers talking about everything to do with fertility optimization from mind, body, spirit. We had some speakers speaking on unexplained infertility. Every diagnosis we had speakers speaking on how to overcome that diagnosis and heal things like PCOS, endometriosis, advanced maternal age, ⁓ know, premature ovarian failure.

So we had the gamut of doctors and dieticians, nutritionists, mindset coaches, acupuncturists. mean, everybody you can think of, we brought together to teach you how to proactively heal your body so that you can get pregnant at any age. And it was a great event. So like I said, it did pass for free, but you can still access it for a small fee to have access to all of those recordings for life. So that's at solving-infertility.com.

Speaker 1 (42:24)
Well, that's absolutely incredible. I know I really enjoyed being on the summit, speaking about spiritual fertility and spirit babies. That's definitely an area of focus for me. So thank you so much. It was absolutely incredible to be a part of that. And I'm so glad that you talked about it so that people can access that through your website. And then just real quick, tell us how people can find you.

Speaker 2 (42:48)
Yeah, so my website is the best place and that's at hormonepuzzlesociety.com and on there we have free gifts and guidebooks around fertility optimization, balancing hormones, there's even a guide for pregnancy if you're already pregnant. So check those out. And then I'm also on social. My favorite place to hang out is Instagram and so I'm at Kayla underscore health coach, Kayla's K-E-L-A. And then I'm also on hormone puzzle method.

I have a podcast, the Hormone Puzzle Podcast, where every bird podcasts are heard. And I'm also, we didn't even talk about this, but really quick, I just got on TikTok and I have a certification program for people who want to be fertility coaches. I founded that in 2019 and it will give you everything that you need to launch yourself as a fertility coach. And I'm talking a lot about it on TikTok and that is at Dr. Kela Smith. So yeah, those are all the places.

Speaker 1 (43:45)
absolutely amazing. Well thank you so much. I'm sure there would be a lot of people here that want to connect with you. You're just an absolute wealth of knowledge as well as wisdom and it's just amazing what you're doing and thank you so much for all the work that you do and helping all the people that you do. And just real quick any last thoughts here for the listeners before we go?

Speaker 2 (44:06)
Sure, so I just want to tell all the listeners, well first, Lindsay, thank you so much for having me. It was my pleasure to talk to you. You're always so fun. So I really appreciate you. Everything that you do for the world, so thank you. And for the listeners, I just want to say if you're listening to this and you're struggling with infertility, please do not give up. You're not broken. not, you know, you do have the chance to get pregnant and it starts with your belief in yourself and in your body's ability to heal.

So just want you to know you have hope. I want you to take that to your core. Do not give up until you reach the end of that path to parenthood and you have your baby in your arms. It might look different than you originally thought, but there is hope and you will have your baby, so do not give up. So that's all. So thank you again for having me.

Speaker 1 (44:55)
Well thank you so much, that was very empowering. I have chills all over my body. That was beautiful. And you speak so much from the heart. I know that your story has so much to do with why you do what you do. And thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (45:08)
Thank you.

Lindsay Goodwin (45:09)
And that's a wrap on this episode of Fertile Frequencies. Remember, your fertility is so much more than just your physical body. It's your energy, mindset, and the whole you. If you're ready to turn those what-ifs into ⁓ my OMG it's happening, make sure to hit subscribe and leave us a review, because your vibe deserves to be heard. Until next time, beautiful, keep your frequency high.

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