Big Destiny Energy

Jonathan’s life is a scheduling disaster, and Tom’s determined to fix it. In a desperate search for meaning (or maybe just content), they ask AI for Life and Soul Path readings. And....they reveal the new title for the pod!

Tom's favorite YouTube clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ixHFyr8I0g

Transcript

Tom: [00:00:00] What's up? What's up? What, what, what? 

Jonathan: Oh, we have so much. We have so much. But first of all, this is no homo with Jonathan and Tom. I'm Jonathan. 

Tom: Is this still no homo with Jonathan and Tom? It's for the moment. So many levels. Moment. It's, I'm Tom, 

Jonathan: everything's in question. But for today, for right now, this is no homo and I'm Jonathan.

And that's 

Tom: Tom. I'm Tom and this is episode 21. We're legal now. We're drinking, uh, I'm, I'm seeing a message that network is struggling. 

Jonathan: True words have never been spoke. Um, yeah, I mean, I think we just go, right? 

Tom: Yeah. I, I think we just go hopefully. 

Jonathan: Okay. Yeah. Well, yeah, we'll just see. We'll find out because I am, uh, coming to you live from the road this week.

Um, and I, uh, a couple things happened here, but I'm gonna tell you, uh, I'm in a hotel room. I am at Camelback Resort. Do you know what this is? 

Tom: Nope. But woof. Okay. Also, this is the best you've ever looked. I know what the snake is, but I like it. 

Jonathan: Well, thank you. It's because, it's probably because I'm [00:01:00] in, uh, full, full dad mode right now because Camelback is an, it's a little, little hotel getaway, a little resort getaway in, uh, beautiful Pennsylvania that is also an indoor.

Water park. Um, so I, yeah, I'm in it. I'm in it. And I didn't even really put all this together until it was too late. But I did, let me show you. 'cause I'm not, I'm fully in it. I'm fully in, I. Can you see my water shoes? Wow. Woof. Can you see my water shoes? I went ahead and wore my water shoes through all of this just so I'd have 'em on for you.

Wow. I have a whistle. I have a whistle just in case kids get out, get outta line. Um, yeah, so we, uh, um, tomorrow is Veteran's Day and, uh, my wife planned a little, uh, with some friends, a little, a little getaway for the, for an overnight. And it wasn't until I, I, I'm just so forgetful and so fak in the brain that I.

Literally like forgot I was planning both of these things. We had a conversation yesterday, midday, like a little prep for the episode, and had that conversation, felt great about it. And then [00:02:00] like, a little bit later it like dawned on me, like in the, and it's, I'm just an idiot. Uh, like a little, a beautiful little angel like landed on my shoulder and went, Hey, how are you gonna record the episode?

And I went, oh gee, fuck. I hadn't even thought, like the two did not come together in my head until that moment. So. We're on the fly here. We're doing it from the, I'm in, I'm in the hotel room, like bathroom, like this is the sink light because my, my ring light wasn't even working. So, um, and it wasn't even like.

I mean, you know, this is just a thing that I, I'm kind of like in full, full dad mode. Like, Jen made these plans. I was like, yeah, like, sure, whatever. Like, I, you know, like, I mean, I'm here, I'm helping, I'm doing that. I'm a part of it, but I did not have anything to do with the plan making. Um, but it didn't take long for me to realize that.

Yeah. Like was it two weeks ago that you were just all over, you were fighting all waterparks? Yeah, just like aggressively fighting waterparks. Um, so I'm, I'm in it right now, man. I'm in the shit, I'm in the, the trenches. Um, maybe literally in the shit at some point this week. Um, 

Tom: I mean, yeah. How is it? Are you having fun?

Is there a lazy river? 

Jonathan: Yeah. Yes, there's a [00:03:00] lazy river with kind of a quick current, uh, the kids got a little caught off guard, um, by how quick the current Caleb literally goes. This isn't a lazy river. It's a crazy river. I was pretty proud of him for that one. Um, that's a good one. Yeah. Uh. They're having fun.

Um, you know, it's, it's one of those things, um, I'll go ahead and I'll put it right up there with like, um, okay. What I wanna say is I'll put up right up there with childbirth, not like the actual act of childbirth, like my experience with childbirth, which is like, the situation is bonkers and my only job is to keep my cool, like my job is to be there and support the bonker shit that's happening and my main job.

Don't freak out and don't show that I'm freaked out by what's happening. And I feel the exact same way here is like, we're gonna be real careful. We're gonna like, but, but there's, there's, there's no getting around some of this. It's all the same water. Whatever fucking athlete's foot is here is here.

We're gonna do our best and we're not gonna, we're not gonna have a bad time. We're gonna just like do it and we're gonna. Do our best to not worry about the other shit. And we're gonna deal [00:04:00] with that when it comes. But, you know, stay alive, keep everyone alive, and keep everyone as happy as possible. And so far, the kids are having fun and that's, that's what it's for, you know?

So That's 

Tom: great, man. 

Jonathan: Yeah. 

Tom: Yeah. I have, I have questions, but I don't. Um, I'm also like, I'm a little preoccupied because of what I'm seeing on Squad cast for which for our listeners is the recording software. We, we record this and I'm, uh, I'm, it's a, it's a little wonky, so if it looks like I'm not paying attention to the story, I am, I'm also like trying to suss out what's happening.

But, um, but this is crazy. Um, I, I wanna get into, if you're willing, if you're willing to humor me, 

Jonathan: of course, of course. I feel like I owe you for setting this up with by accident. I'm, of course, I'm willing to humor your. 

Tom: I wanna talk about your calendaring in your life, but I don't wanna, I don't want it to come across judgmental.

Like, I, I wanna think of this as like, um, like a, like I'm a, like a, a sociologist or mm-hmm. I'm studying a try. Mm-hmm. Sure. We can, 

we 

Tom: can do 

Jonathan: academically. Sure, yeah. We can look it up 

Tom: anthropological, because it's [00:05:00] not, it's so different for me. Yeah. So like, do you, let me just ask some questions. Do you have a cal, do you have a calendar?

Jonathan: Yeah. Multiple. 

Tom: Well, what, what do you mean multiple? 

Jonathan: Like, uh, they all come together. They con, they converge on our, we actually now have a skylight, shout out skylight. Um, one of the big, like wall, you know, like calendars. Digital. Oh yeah, digital. My sister has that. Interactive calendars. Yeah. Yes. Uh, and I requested, I was like, we're gonna get, I got it.

I was like, we're getting this because yeah, my calendars are so fucked up. My calendars are a mess. I have a work, I have an, I have an Outlook work calendar. I have, I cal for home stuff. I have, you know, our stuff is on one of is our home calendar, but that's like. Through my, uh, j Greg slash whatever, uh, uh, Gmail, as opposed to, there's like so many calendars that come together and I've gotten decent at the way they all come together and the way they all work, but.

This is like, 

Tom: so you use Google Calendar and there's, you, you turn the different calendars on and off depending on what you wanna see. 

Jonathan: Yeah, yeah, 

Tom: yeah, yeah, yeah. 

Jonathan: Basically, yeah. 

Tom: And it's on your phone as well. 

Jonathan: Yeah. 

Tom: Yeah. 

Jonathan: So we, I mean, we had, and Monday nights are [00:06:00] in, Monday nights are in as a six study pre, 

Tom: yeah.

Jonathan: Yeah. And then, and then the record and like, 

Tom: it's so, it's so fa but I, like I asked this, like knowing I am on the other side of this. Spectrum. I'm like, type A about calendars. 

Jonathan: Dude, I'm, I'm flying blind so much of the time. I'm trying, I'm always trying to find a new way to organize. I'm trying so hard. 

Tom: Yeah.

Jonathan: Yeah. And I'm, I ask for help and I'm, I try to, like, I, I'm, I'm trying to do everything I can, but then like, like this is, so, our stuff is in the calendar. This trip is not, and it was like, yeah, tomorrow's a holiday. Fuck it. We're doing a random thing overnight. And then it was like literally, 

Tom: well, see, I think we can pinpoint the problem here.

In my opinion, the person who booked the trip should have calendared it. 

Jonathan: Mm-hmm. 

Tom: And so you can't possibly be held at fault here for a, a major I. Can 

Jonathan: I, can I say, can I say and we'll see, um, how quickly Jen listens to this one as it comes back around. Uhhuh, I have gotten much better at exactly that, at putting things in the calendar.

'cause it was years she worked. For years. It took her years of work to get me to put things in the calendar. 

Tom: Yeah. [00:07:00] There, there. Okay, good. 

Jonathan: And I'm pretty good at that now. And, uh, I, I gotta say, I think maybe I negatively rubbed off on her. I think she's gotten a little bit, yeah, yeah. A little bit lax on putting things in the calendar.

Yeah. Like I, it's, it's a weird place for me and I, I really have to come in soft 'cause I don't wanna like over like overshoot my, you know, my ground on this one. Sure. But I do often have to be like, did you. Put that in the calendar. 

Tom: Yeah. 

Jonathan: So then it's not on me really. That I didn't know was 

Tom: the well in, in, in fairness, qua and I don't have a shared calendar.

We've talked about it, but um, I still am holding on to, I really like the Apple calendar. Um, I like the app, the Apple Calendar on my laptop. Yeah, 

Jonathan: that's actually what do more of, not the Google Cal, I, they all come together in certain different ways, but I like the Apple calendar. 

Tom: Yeah. I like the way, I like the way it functions better.

Yeah. I like how it talks to my phone. Um, I have a work calendar that's separate and it does not connect to my phone because I have a work phone. But, um, we don't have a shared calendar, so we're constantly, and it's usually me telling him stuff and then he doesn't necessarily put it in his calendar. He's gotten better at [00:08:00] it, but, um, that it is kind of a thing sometimes, but so for me, like I can't function.

One of the first things I do in the day, well, that's not true. You know, the whole Sure. Morning, morning rituals. After the morning rituals, when I sit down at the desk, whether it's at home or at work, the first thing I do is like study the calendar for the day. Yeah. And then on Mondays I also study the calendar for the week.

Um, and I study the calendar for the next day. At some point in the day, like mid-afternoon, I'll study the calendar for the next day. And then, um. Also on Mondays have started studying the calendar for the week ahead just to get a sense of like, is there someone's birthday coming up? I need to get a gift, or blah, blah, blah.

But that's the only way I can do it. 'cause my memory, my short-term memory, my long-term memory, all my memories are, 

Jonathan: well, a 

Tom: thing of the 

Jonathan: that, that, honestly, this is one of the reasons that I'm like excited for the future of ai. I don't know if it really, I, I, whatever, even if it's a bubble that bursts pretty soon and even if the economy gets fucked from it, I think that we're still gonna get some tech that comes out of this and I am looking forward to it because I fucking [00:09:00] need something to just look at my stuff.

And go like, okay, this is what now, this is what you got now. This is what you have short term, this is what you have long term. Like I, 'cause you're right, like I, I, and I'll go through, I don't know if it's my, I mean I know that it's my A DHD and also just like my, the, I did not learn how to, I not spend the time younger learning how to organize and learning how to do that.

And it just doesn't happen. So it'll be like, and it's been my whole life. My mom used to gimme shit for it. Like when I was in. Third grade she gave, she gave me a special notebook to write my homework down in. 'cause I would come home and be like, I don't know. Yeah. She's like, what do you, what do you have to do?

I'm like, I have no idea. Yeah. And so she was like, write it down. So I would write it down, but I didn't like go, in order of the pages. I just fucking opened to a page and write homework down. Oh my God. Yeah. Oh my God. Making, making me 

Tom: sick to my stomach. 

Jonathan: That's basically, I've, I've barely evolved past that.

That's like still the, that's still inner child, uh, Jonathan is doing still that exact same thing. So a lot of days I'm flying so fucking blind and frankly, at work I've been, I'm director of operations. I am in [00:10:00] charge of the order of operations of things. I'm in charge of workflow of all these different productions, all these different projects, and I am.

Begging, I'm always begging people to stick to the systems we put in place because otherwise I'm gonna, I I cannot keep up. Yeah. And nobody is interested in keeping up with the systems we put in place. And so like, I think that's been part of it too, is my, it's frankly my life has gotten more chaotic because my workday.

Is like, I go into work being like, I don't fucking know. Like I know that I was supposed to be, so let me get back in here and see if I can figure out how to put these things back together and see where we are and all this stuff. And like, yeah, this just hit that spot where it was like kind of an anomaly.

Like it's one thing, the the, the weekly and daily tasks and the way that the calendar works, and this was a. A curve ball that, um, frankly, I guess we can say it's Jen's fault. 

Tom: Okay. Well, there, we've done that. And, um, and, uh, yeah, work on your calendaring, bro. 

Jonathan: Yeah. Thanks man. You're welcome. You're welcome.

Thanks. I need that. I need, um, 

Tom: yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't, I didn't mean it to sound judgy. It's fine. 

Jonathan: It's okay. It is. [00:11:00] I'm horrible with my calendar. I mean, it's true. I would love, I would love better help and I just can't, like, I mean, nothing's helped yet. 

Tom: I mean, I love, I found a way 

Jonathan: around. 

Tom: I think it's personality based too.

'cause I mean, I took the planners like, uh, fish to water when I was in school and had my first planner. Like, I loved a planner. I love a good, good old planner. It took me a long time to move from writing it down to digital. But, um, I, I did and everything, like, it's all digital now. Um, except every day I have a handwritten to-do list.

That's how I get through my day, personal and work. I have a page in my notebook and I write down everything I need to do for the next day. Uh, and 

Jonathan: you know what, I'll do that, I'll do that. Like things off therapist. Megan got me into color blocking for a little while, like, 'cause I, I've tried everything.

I've tried a very specific calendar, very specific schedule for the day. I've tried color blocking and now, and now I like do a lot of like, kind of a, an a, a, an abridged color blocking with just sticky notes. I have sticky notes that, you know, represent different things except for I'll fucking just leave them wherever I leave them.

Like, I will write, I'll write it all down. I'll get it all blocked out and then, you know, leave that somewhere and have no idea. [00:12:00] Dangerous and it's like, I won't even think about it till later. I'll be like, oh shit. I did not look back at my sticky notes at all. Like the, it's, it's crazy. It 

Tom: sounds like, I think your, it sounds like you, your calendaring is good.

It sounds like you haven't developed the habit of constantly looking at the calendar. That's true. And I think's the key step that you need 

Jonathan: That's true. 

Tom: It's like just putting it there is not enough. You have to like constantly look at it. 

Jonathan: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know how to remember. Do that. I need to, I need to set alarms or something.

Yeah. That's another thing I fucking do. Like, like, I mean, I tell you what man, my brain is like determined to not let me be organized. I will, like, I'll set alarms, I'll set alarms to look at things. I'll set alarms with the notes. I'll, I will put my, my to-dos in alarms, but then like if I need an alarm for a time.

Then I'll just go back and use that same alarm. So then I quickly get used to not looking at the note in the alarm because it's like just for the time. And then an alarm goes off and I close it, and if I don't do the thing that moment it's gone. Yeah. So it's, I. 

Tom: Yikes. All right, well, let's, [00:13:00] let's, let's in a hotel 

Jonathan: room for this episode.

Tom: Hopefully this episode that's even recording. 'cause right now you're, god, you're a GeoP, pix, uh, oh God. Version of yourself. Okay. We have an update, uh, on our podcast name. Um, for those of you, thank you for your suggestions that, uh, people sent us. Uh, but the YouTube comments and people that wrote out, uh, wrote to us and we, we appreciate them.

We, um, we loved a lot of them. We, we are leaning towards, uh, do you want to. Here I for get the a drum roll. 

Jonathan: Oh yeah.

Tom: And the new title is. 

Jonathan: Bro, homo 

Tom: woof. I love it. Homo with 

Jonathan: Jonathan and Tom. I think it's pretty good, bro. 

Tom: Homo, I think it's good. Yeah, I think, I think it's really good. I'm, I'm actually quite excited about it. Yeah. And, um, please stick with us on our rebrand, everybody. We will, um, announce as we roll it out.

Um, but it'll be happening soon. Um, so that's first point of business. Second, I have a little correction [00:14:00] corner. Uh, 'cause I don't want to single-handedly take down Carnival cruises, uh, the, the New York. Magazine article that I mentioned about cruises last week is called They Missed the Cruise Ship. That was only the beginning.

It's from December of 2024. And the cruise line in question was the Norwegian cruise line. It's a great article you'll never want to get on a cruise again. Um, I was recommended to watch the Poop Cruise documentary on Netflix, which I just watched. And also that will make you never want to get on a cruise again.

Cesspools of humanity. 

Yeah, 

Jonathan: I was thinking like this place, an indoor waterpark resort is kind of like a landlocked cruise ship, but at least we can't get lost. Off the cruise ship. Yeah. Like at least we can like, walk out to our car and leave here. The rest of it though, is pretty much a landlocked cruise ship.

Yeah. Um, that's like, um, it made me think of triangle of sadness, like when they get into the, the, you know, like when things start going crazy? Yes. And then it's just like, just, just flooding. Yes, toilets and like just for minutes, just the longest. 

Tom: Well, okay, I'm just gonna go ahead and spoil the documentary.

They lost power and so it [00:15:00] meant the toilets couldn't flush. Oh, God. And so they told them all to pee in their showers, and then they gave them little red bags to poop in and they would collect the bags. Well, the showers weren't draining. Oh, okay. So, and then the tugboat came to finally. Tugboat them back to America.

And that caused the ship to list because the little, and so all of the, all of the showers now, all of the sewage was leaking all over the ship. 

Jonathan: Oh, wow. 

Tom: This is why I don't understand why any sane human would ever choose. To put themselves. There's so many wonderful places and in God's green earth to visit, um, you don't need to go on a cruise.

Jonathan: You don't need to go on a cruise. And like, if you need the, if you need the all inclusive, that exists too. Like you can get Yeah, yeah. Totally. Your fruity drinks and you can get your, your water Zumba classes. You can get those somewhere land. You can get it all. You can get it on land. Um, that's gross.

That's funny. 

Tom: Yeah. Uh, the other thing we watched this weekend, which I want to rave about is, uh, Frankenstein Guillermo. Yeah. Del Toros. Yeah. Uh, Oscar Contender. Um, so good, beautiful movie. Uh, kind of can't stop [00:16:00] thinking about it. Images, wow. That are sticking with me. Moments that are sticking with me. Can't wait to watch it again.

A little bummed. I watched it on the small screen, but that's kind of how it's being released is on Netflix. I'm sure it's in theaters in New York if you look for it right now 'cause it's trying to be an Oscar contender. Jacob o Lorde will be nominated for supporting actor, uh, declaring it now. He's, it's an amazing performance.

Um, yeah, it's really good. So highly recommend Frankenstein. 

Jonathan: Sometimes I feel like, uh, Guillermo like, uh, takes a thing that exists already and like does like, just wants to make it his own, but it, it doesn't always, it doesn't always hit for me. Sometimes it hits really well. Sometimes I really like his take on things.

Yeah, pan Labrinth, just Pan Lab is awesome. Um, what's the, uh, 

Tom: his 

Jonathan: Harry 

Tom: Potter is the best of the Harry Potters. Hands down 

Jonathan: the, um. I like his Pinocchio a lot. Caleb likes his Pinocchio a lot. Yeah. Actually was like brought up a lot of, like early on, earlier than I expected to talk to my son about war and uh, bombs and like all of the issues they got that.

Yeah, I was like, sure, Pinocchio, whatever. But then we're like, oh yeah. So let's talk [00:17:00] about fascism in World War ii. All right. Um. 

Tom: Yeah, that's a 

Jonathan: good one. But it was, you know, it was, uh, I, I enjoyed that one. I can't even think of the, one of the, the, um, that's like the undead and maybe not vampires, but like Red something or Crimson something.

The Crimson PI don't know. It doesn't Oh yeah. Whatever. 

Tom: Yeah, 

Jonathan: it, whatever. Yeah. But I, uh, oh, and I did not, like, I couldn't get on board with, uh, fish people. I just couldn't get on board. I 

Tom: didn't like that one either. Shape of water. 

Jonathan: Shape of water. Yeah. Yeah. 

Tom: I really did not like that movie. 

Jonathan: Yeah. 

Tom: Um, yeah. So, yeah, I hear, I hear you about this one, but he, he, he makes up for it here.

I think it's really good. 

Jonathan: Right. Cool. I mean, yeah, like he takes big swings and so when it works, it works for sure. So, cool. That's, 

Tom: speaking of big swings, have you been following the news about Matt? Khalil 

Jonathan: is, 

Tom: do you know what I'm talking about? 

Jonathan: Wait. Yeah. Who got who? Whose marriage ended over irreconcilable differences.

Tom: Yes. 

Jonathan: Yeah, I meant to put that in the outlet. I'm glad that you did it. I'm glad you brought it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, man. I mean, what a, that you know what, you know what turns out there is such a thing as too big. All right, we finally got there. We can, two 

Tom: Coke cans she said, [00:18:00] and I'm very upset. He does not have an Instagram account, so I'm very upset about that.

Um, but he was just offered 300,000 for, uh, to do a porn, so fingers crossed, but I don't, I don't if he'll do 

Jonathan: that, should just, what? He shouldn't sell it to a porn. He should start in OnlyFans and make that every week for the rest of his life. For sure. 

Tom: For 

Jonathan: sure. Wow. Yeah, I mean that's, that's, that's crazy.

That's crazy. 

Tom: Yeah. It's a crazy story. Yeah. Well, did you guys watch anything this week or any, any, 

Jonathan: no, it was, it's such a, that's why I, my, my culture section is, is nothing here. We finished the diplomat, which was exciting. Actually. Jen slept through it, so she's gotta go back and watch it. Um, but I love, should we, spoiler 

Tom: alert right here and talk about it?

Jonathan: Sure. Okay. So spoiler alert for the next two minutes. Whatever. Skip ahead. Yeah, we don't even do whatever. Skip ahead. 

Tom: We don't, we don't have to spoil it. It's fine. The diplomat, I thought the ending was good. I thought it was. 

I 

Jonathan: loved it. I loved the ending. I love the ending. 

Tom: Typical, typical diplomat. 

Jonathan: Yeah.

Tom: Pull the rug out, up from under you. Where the fuck are they gonna go next? Yeah. It all felt like it ended too soon for me. 

Jonathan: Sure. It was only like eight episodes or something, right? Like it was short. The season [00:19:00] was short, but it was, 

Tom: yeah. 

Jonathan: They, they picked that, that train started moving and it went fast. And then, yeah, it was, I really enjoyed the, really enjoyed the ending.

Tom: Yeah, we knocked that out this week. We knocked out boots, which I loved, then I hated then I loved again for a moment and then kind of hated it at the end. But 

Jonathan: really, 

Tom: um, yeah, that's my review on Boots. There's a lot of good things about it. The performances are great. Um, but eh. Um, I 

Jonathan: was in for like, so many roles in that show and, uh, I got, I auditioned for multiple roles in that show and I, I usually make a habit.

I'm too vain to watch things I don't get cast in, so I, I was, yeah. But I, I started it and like, liked it a little bit, not enough to keep going in the moment. And 

Tom: it's just a little confusing, I think. It just doesn't know what it wants to be. Yeah. It's very, it's a confusing, the way they use music and, um, there's this whole subplot with the mom that makes no sense.

And, uh, I, I did, I constantly didn't know what it was wanting me to feel. Yeah. Um. But, uh, we did also just finish. Uh, nobody wants this, uh, which, uh. Bawled my eyes out at the end of it was so good. Really? Yeah. I love that show. Um, yeah, 

Jonathan: that's that Jen just finished that one. She did it without me. I [00:20:00] was out for a night the other night and she finished it without me.

So I gotta go back and watch the last, uh, episode or so of that one. 

Tom: You had a bro night without me. 

Jonathan: Mm. What was I doing? It can't have been that fun. No, I don't, I don't remember where I was. Good. I just know she'd watch it without me. And it was, it might have been us for, no, I don't know. I was gonna say us recording last week, but it wasn't that, I don't know.

Tom: It wasn't that. 

Jonathan: I don't know 

Tom: what it was. Well, we have good news from last week, uh, when won the election and Democrats had a, uh, had a, we ran the table last Tuesday night, Democrats on an amazing night. I, um, I mean, I'm a emotional mess when it comes to politics in general, but, um, I, I. Cried multiple times.

We watched Quan was kind enough to let me watch the election returns. 

Jonathan: Yeah. 

Tom: Um, for a couple hours Tuesday night. And it's not even a big election. There's not that much to be waiting for. But man, I just was really moved by, um. First of all, uh, like young men swinging for spam Berger and um, uh, uh, Cheryl in New [00:21:00] Jersey.

Mm-hmm. Um, and, uh, all this talk about young men and we've lost young men. And, um, that didn't prove true to be in those elections that gave me hope. Um, the two statewide, uh. I don't remember their offices, but two statewide positions were won by Democrats in Georgia, uh, which is the first time in a long time.

Mm-hmm. That's happened in Georgia. So that gave me hope. Um, and then obviously, um, Zoran Momani won in, uh, for mayor of New York, which is really great news. And 

Jonathan: yeah, 

Tom: I don't know, it just felt like we had all this momentum. Uh, 

Jonathan: yeah. And midterms usually swing away from the, the, uh, incumbent, but still, 

Tom: yeah, 

Jonathan: there was a, it was like, clearly people, the, the dissatisfaction is spreading and people are aware that this, this sucks.

Um, so, and like this, yeah, the, there's so much, I mean, being in New York, but also like everyone fucking cares about the mayor of New York all of a sudden. Like it, 

Tom: yeah, 

Jonathan: it became such a big deal and became such a comment on the whole thing. So like, no matter what, no matter what. Powers the mayor of New York does or doesn't have.

It's, I think it's great for, yeah, just branding, but it's great for, you know, the [00:22:00] narrative right now, um, that people are, you know, whoever was worried about it up in arms and gotta have all sorts of, you know, whatever problems, whatever part of, um, I don't know, it feels very, um. Mob mentality, propaganda.

The, the problems with Zoran seem, uh, like not a thing you should worry about with the mayor. I, I, I, I don't think that he is, I don't know. I mean, we'll see what he can do and what he can get done, but I think he's a, he's a good guy who smiles and he doesn't have any sexual assault claims against him yet.

So like, good for him to, let's start with a clean slate and not take the old, uh, predator, you know? 

Tom: Yeah, for sure. I, I was very happy. It was good news. Yeah. Um, it's, uh, I've been a little bit upset the last. Since last night, the news that Democrats were caving on the shutdown 

Jonathan: Yeah. 

Tom: Um, is upsetting, especially after last week.

And I think it's a mistake. Um, but I do feel like, um, I do like it, like it, um, uh, referencing a joke that no one is gonna get. Um, there is an Oprah [00:23:00] Winfrey video on YouTube that I am going to link to in the comments for this episode. Great. And it is the funniest video, and I watch it a couple times a week.

It's like 90 seconds of your time, go to the comments on your whatever platform you're watching or listening to this on. I'll put the link there. I promise I'll remember. Uh, it makes me very happy. Um, so, uh, yeah, so basically they're, um, forcing Republicans. Part of the deal that we're agreeing to is the Republicans are going, we're agreeing that we're gonna move forward with the.

Budget and that we'll vote on the healthcare subsidies in January. And um, the problem with that is that there's no guarantee we'll get that vote. And even if we get the vote in the Senate and a hundred people vote for it, um, they're, they're never gonna take it up in the house. It's like, it's dead on arrival.

This vote is not gonna happen. But what's amazing about it, what's kind of genius about it is, um, the, we've drawn so much attention to the fact. That these healthcare subsidies are going up majorly in a big way, and that it's the Republican's [00:24:00] fault. And so now they either have to own it, they either have to, um, vote on it, and then we get to lower the subsidies, or we get to use that Yeah.

Uh, for the next year leading up to the midterms next year. So, um, yeah, trying to make the most of it, but I do, uh, I was really feeling good about how we were doing, and then Democrats were lame once again, so, 

Jonathan: yeah. 

Tom: Uh, here we're, 

Jonathan: well, yeah, I mean, it's also kind of, I, I don't know. Um. I, I am not nearly, uh, you know, as per usual, not nearly as locked in, but like, it, it, I don't know.

It's also a sign that some of these establishment democrats are maybe have run their time. Like it's, it's, it, there's a lot of stagnation and that doesn't seem to be like what the people want, and they're like, so 

Tom: yeah, 

Jonathan: we gotta get them out too. 

Tom: Yep, for sure. Uh, if you're old, it's time to call it. Call it a day.

Jonathan: There's a part of me that was like, I couldn't get the, it was like a stoned shower thought I was having the other night that like, I know we're very divided by party right now, but like, really to scale, it's kind of like, and it's more ageism than partisan. Like I, I think [00:25:00] if you really come, like there's a lot of it that's like, there's a young new thing happening and like there's a young conservative and an alt-right that is like, but that's a malleable, I think that's a, that's a group that can still be.

Taught and changed and brought to a different spot. But it's like still a, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a, the young half, the young population is like dissatisfied. It's like, this isn't, this isn't right. And so this, this sucks. And so like a, a bug, a big part of the group has been grabbed and like. Taught this one thing that, that this nationalism is a way to do it and this, that, you know, this kind of like, uh, uh, masculinity and, uh, the toxicity of it and, uh, whatever, but that's still a group that can be, can be reached, I think.

And there's like, and, and then you have like Democrats, but old ass Democrats who are fucking so ingrained in the establishment that they're just, they're just going along to get along anyway, and it's not fixing or helping anything at all. So part of me is like, we just gotta like. Get the old ones out. I don't mean to be an anxious, 

Tom: but 

Jonathan: a little 

Tom: bit No, I'm, I'm anxious about this.

They, they should be out. [00:26:00] Um, okay, so this week for our big discussion, I, uh, challenged you to something, challenge is the wrong word, um, but. I came across in Doom scrolling one day, uh, this article that was like, forget, don't spend money on the fancy astrologists and the life path coach. Here are 10 prompts you can feed into chat GBT and they will come back to you with the same answers.

And I was like, this kind of shit's right out my alley. I love this shit. So I was like, okay, I'm, I'm gonna start to put them in. And so I sent you, uh, four, four, uh, uh, life prompts. So we're gonna share our, um. Our, our information. So the first one that we're gonna talk about is, uh, the life blueprint decoder.

Mm-hmm. Uh, and so, um, we're gonna, we're gonna our life path decoder for each of us. So we're gonna share our results. So I'll go first. Uh, 

Jonathan: do you have the, do you have the prompt in front of you? 'cause I didn't, I didn't copy the prompt on the right thing. Read 

Tom: the prompt or, uh, yeah. The prompt is, uh, I want you to act.

As a life path decoder, I'll provide my date of [00:27:00] birth, which I did. I'm an Aquarius use psychology, numerology logic, and life pattern mapping to reveal my deepest trait traits. Oh, I didn't shut my phone off. Oh, wow. Come on. And podcaster. Oh, uh, to reveal my deepest traits, hidden strengths, weaknesses, and destiny blueprint.

Um. Okay, so this is what came back. I am the architect of expression. 

Jonathan: Ooh. 

Tom: Okay. So, and we haven't shared this with each other. Uhhuh. So you're, uh, this is about you reacting. Yeah. And see if this sounds, if this sounds right to you. 

Jonathan: Okay. 

Tom: You were born to translate emotion into form to make ideas, humor, or insight.

Tangible and accessible. 

Jonathan: Dude, 

Tom: what? That's, I know, I know. Uh, it's something I'm the Life Path three blueprint, whatever that means. The three path is about finding your voice, not just literally though often that too, but in the sense of authentic self-expression and art, storytelling, leadership or influence.

Um, people with this path are magnetic check, [00:28:00] charming, check, verbally, quick check, emotionally resonant check, uh, but often carry an early life tension between wanting to be seen and fearing judgment. Whoa. I know, bro. Wow. It's like, wow. This, this chat, GBT cup. Cut deep. Yeah. Um, you likely grew up both expressive and introspective uhhuh.

Oh, wow. An observer who noticed everything but sometimes hid behind wit or competence. Um, the, the Aquarius part of me wants to analyze, improve, revolution, revolutionize the three part, whatever that the three part path wants me to, wants to feel, connect, and play Uhhuh. Um, and, uh, social alchemy. These are my strengths.

I can read a room intuitively and shift its energy, I think. Mm-hmm. That's true. Mm-hmm. Uh, resilient optimism. Even though I get setbacks, a deep inner optimism keeps emerging. Um, vision coupled with originality. I usually have different ideas of how to solve things. Uh, connect your energy. You attract diverse people, you bridge worlds, blah, blah, blah.

[00:29:00] Um, yeah. Yeah. Uh, some of my shadow patterns, uh, the mask of performance, I sometimes might hide my vulnerability behind humor, uh, or irony, which is true. Um, overthinking the audience. What is the audience gonna think about this? How much have I said that to you? Uh, emotional disconnection. When life feels too messy.

You detach, uhhuh, um, scattered focus with so many ideas. You challenge. Uh, yeah, I, I. Struggle to stay in one lane long enough. 

Jonathan: Mm-hmm. 

Tom: Alright, so that's my life blueprint. Yeah. What did you think? Was it 

Jonathan: accurate? Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty accurate, man. I thought so. So much of that is like, I mean, that was like director Tom through and through and then also just like.

The, the, the newest chapter or the most, you know, recent big chapter, um, of your life. I think that's like really spot on most of that. 

Tom: Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. I agree. Alright, let's hear yours. 

Jonathan: Okay. Uh, the Life Blueprint decoder, let's see. Um, my, I guess I don't, I'm, I'm a nine was my number. I'm a, uh, the nine life [00:30:00] path, a hu humanitarian visionary, wired for empathy, depth and understanding.

You see patterns in people in society and intuitively sense what's broken and how to mend it at your best. You channeled that insight into creativity, emotional, or humanitarian outlets, writing, mentoring, leadership, and design that makes people feel seen. You carry an internal tension between wanting peace and feeling responsible for everyone else's happiness.

You often play the emotional anchor in other storms. Your challenge is learning that compassion doesn't mean self-sacrifice. There's some truth in there for me that I think I, I don't know, like, um. I'll keep going here unless you do wanna jump in. Yeah. Okay. 

Tom: No, no. 

Jonathan: That 

Tom: all sounds, uh, yeah, that resonates.

Yep. 

Jonathan: Um, there's, uh, the master builder underneath the 20. There's a 22 hidden, uh, and it's huge. The 22 hidden. Your date is huge. It adds practical, genius, visionary discipline, and the potential to leave a tangible legacy, a system, a body of work, a foundation. You're not meant to just dream about helping people.

You're meant to build the bridge that helps them cross. [00:31:00] Um, that's, but that's heavy energy. 22 is often battle with self-doubt or cycles of perfectionism. You might oscillate between feeling I can change the world and I can't even get started. The key is trusting the process over perfection. Dang, dang.

Yeah, that one's pretty much on the, on the nose. Um. Emotional landscape psychologically, you likely learned how to read the room. Your emotional intelligence is razor sharp. You pick up on subtleties. Others miss yet because you process deeply. You sometimes overanalyze emotion, turning empathy inward until it becomes pressure.

Your growth arc is to move from absorber to alchemist, transform emotion into art, insight or structure, and not just carry it. I think that's pretty Okay. 

Tom: Yeah. 

Jonathan: Pretty, uh, um, accurate on the nose. Yeah. A shadow and weakness, uh, patterns, emotional exhaustion from trying to fix everyone. 

Tom: Yeah. 

Jonathan: Over identifying with your roles as helper or rescuer.

Uh, perfection paralysis, uh, sense of high destiny and fear not meeting it. Um, nostalgia. Sense of high 

Tom: destiny. Check 

Jonathan: [00:32:00] nostalgia, letting go. Issues often, uh, need to release the past repeatedly. Closure is your soul's workout that's. A pretty good one. 

Tom: Wow. 

Jonathan: Um, hidden strengths, charismatic empathy, uh, creative translation.

Uh, v vision with follow through. I don't know. I guess I need a better calendar for that, but we can get some follow through. Uh, and moral gravity. You carry integrity as a frequency and people feel your sincerity even when you don't speak. Um, yeah. 

Tom: Yeah. 

Jonathan: Uh. And then the destiny, my destiny blueprint. Your life's arc is about transformation through compassion.

You're here to close cycles, personal, familial, and collective, and help others do the same. This might express as creating something that heals writing, teaching, mentoring, leading with purpose. Or building a platform or project that restores humanity or artistry to systems that have lost it, like starting a podcast or two.

Um mm-hmm. Turning personal pain into collective medicine. You know, the bridge between emotion and structure, heart and action, dream and reality. [00:33:00] Um, the highest purpose, if just, if I just, this is what Chey PT says. If I distilled your life into one sentence, you are here to build something enduring that heals others, and in doing so, prove that empathy and structure can coexist.

Tom: Yeah. 

Jonathan: Yeah. Um, 

Tom: yeah, man, 

Jonathan: that's a, there's a lot there for sure. There's a lot that rings. Yeah, that ringer, that hits, hits kind of deep there. 

Tom: Yep. I had, did yours give you your key power years? I had, um, age 33 to 34 was a major awakening, which if you remember, my life at that time was very much a major something.

Mm-hmm. Uh, 45 to 48, which I am in the. Early middle of, um, purpose consolidation. So I'm consolidating my purpose. And 54 plus is teaching mastery phase. I'm gonna be like, Ooh, I didn't get that Master daddy at 54 years old. So get ready. Ready. I like 

Jonathan: that. 

Tom: All right, now I'm gonna jump into my soul purpose.

Now, this is my sole purpose, uh, and that the prompt was like to reveal my [00:34:00] core life mission, the lessons I'm meant to experience and the contribution I'm here to make in the world. So this is what I asked chat, GBT. Um. My, my soul has a mission of communication, creation, and emotional illumination. Uh, I came into this lifetime to use words, ideas, and creative energy to help others see life through new eyes.

I like that. Um, I'm going to jump around here so I'm not just reading for this whole podcast, um, uh, core Life Mission to awaken and inspire others through authentic self-expression, using your voice, ideas and creativity to bring clarity, connection, and light into the world, not dissimilar to yours. Um, yeah, 

Jonathan: but that's, I mean, that's director Tom through and through.

That's, 

Tom: yeah. Yeah. I need to commit to creating, creating is a big thing to me. It said, uh, I need to stick to creating, um, I have to create every day, which I don't do. Um, and you're here to contribute through communication that heals or uplifts. Um, so there you go. 

Jonathan: Okay. 

Tom: Yeah. 

Jonathan: Maybe this is, this is all, [00:35:00] this is all setting us up.

Setting us up for bro homo to really. Be the balm that the world has needed. We're gonna be, 

Tom: we're gonna heal souls with hamma.

Jonathan: Um, did you, do you have more? 

Tom: Uh, 

Jonathan: no, that's it. Yeah. Okay. That's your sole purpose. Um, okay. Um, mine is to, to heal through creation and leadership. Um. Meant to act as a bridge between the emotional truth and real world impact. Yeah. Purpose is not to simply to understand people, but to translate that understanding into something that endures systems, art, writing, community.

I'm, I'm clearly supposed to leave something lasting here we like. Um, totally, totally. You're that a lot. Um, uh, I feel most alive. It says you likely feel most alive when you're helping others grow, heal, or reconnect. You're channeling your big emotion into creative or practical form and building something that could outlast you.

Those things are all true. That's when I'm inflow is. Is when I'm doing one of those things, um, my key soul lessons release and renewal here to learn the art of letting go of roles, [00:36:00] relationships, and even identities you've outgrown. That's a fucking good one. Um, every major leap in your life will come only after you've surrendered something that once to find you.

The lesson here is closure is creation. What you release makes space for what's next. Yeah. Um, 

Tom: what do you need to release, bro? I can help you release. 

Jonathan: Maybe that's what it is. Maybe it's that the, the whatever, whatever final wall is still standing there. I was supposed to just finally let go. I was finally supposed to let it down and 

Tom: I wish I could have altered your prompt to be like you.

Your soul lesson is to let your best friend. 

Jonathan: Fuck. That's the problem. I mean, the, the, you know, side note, as much as I'm in, I'm like totally here for ai. Like once, once, uh, uh, open AI need to start making money, like it's gonna be clearly biased. It's gonna be paying for, for answers. It's gonna be pay for play.

Uh, yeah. But until then. We can believe all of this as pure fact, as just like the truth. Pure fact. 

Tom: Okay, let's jump into relationship destiny map. Okay, so the prompt to [00:37:00] code the partners I'm most compatible with the lessons I'm meant to learn and love and the qualities of the person who helped me become my best self.

Um, and I got, uh. I want a partner who's a, a best friend and a co-conspirator, which I think I got. Mm-hmm. Uh, someone who stimulates your mind, laughs with you and respects your need to create and move freely. Uh, freedom versus closeness is a big thing for me. You crave connection but can feel smothered easily.

Yes, very much so. Uh, and aquan. I definitely feel free to be myself and have space. Um. Uh, what else? Depth over novelty. You love new ideas and experiences, but move on quickly when the excitement fades, uh, I need someone who can stay curious with me, uh, and keep the inner worlds alive. Um, and, uh, yeah, the, the person who balances me is a witty conversationalist.

Check. Mm-hmm. Uh, balanced diplomat and the visionary Friend. Lover, which I think is a really good description of, uh, Quan, uh, the steady nurturer, the intuitive [00:38:00] dreamer, uh, is the kind of person I need. Uh, so yeah, I was really excited to read that 'cause it feels very true to who he is. Yeah. Yeah. 

Jonathan: Yeah. That about you.

That pretty good. Um, my most compatible partners, uh, um, mirror my creativity and expressive side and together inspire and laugh deeply. Um, that's true. We talk all the time. Yeah, all the time. Jen is like, she always says her, her whole thing is like, she doesn't feel like a creative, but she feels like, uh, the, the editor for a creator or the, the head writer, you know, like, and she always, she doesn't even want to be.

Creative, but she does wanna be a teammate for it. And she's really good at that. I think she's more creative than she gives herself credit for, but she is really good at being a, a a I. We joke about her being my head writer all the time, like it's sure. She's just who I bounce everything off of. And, um, and also, let's see.

Um, I work Beth with a six offers loyalty, domestic warmth, and emotional steadiness. Um, 

Tom: yep. 

Jonathan: Uh, balances outward compassion with introspective calm to help me think clearly. I think that's [00:39:00] true. Uh, another old soul who gets your empathy and global vision, though you must avoid mutual martyrdom. That's an interesting one.

I didn't, um. The trick isn't this, what The trick isn't only matching numbers, it's balancing energy. You thrive with someone who has emotional maturity and grounded pragmatism. That is, uh, I would say that's, that's Jen. I should avoid emotional escapists or chaos seekers who drain your compassion reserve.

That's fucking true. Yeah. I, I, chaos seekers, I. The theater world has plenty of those and I am sure I was, I mean, I'm not even sure. I was definitely one of them for a while and I just remember like seeing clearly at some point being like, that's fucking exhausting. Yeah. This like the need to seek out or create chaos is fucking exhausting.

Tom: Yeah. Yeah. 

Jonathan: Um. And then the other thing I need to avoid is those who compete with your inner light instead of co-creating with it. Um 

Tom: hmm. 

Jonathan: Yeah. Um, yeah. 

Tom: Yeah. You you did a good job. I will tell you though, sometimes Quana and I will, like, when we're hanging with you guys, like we'll go to the side and we'll be like, oh, they're martyring again.

Like, we should [00:40:00] wrap this up. So just so you guys know. 

Jonathan: I'm, I'm just kidding, but I'm gonna remember that. 

Tom: Alright, last, last prompt. Act as my shadow mirror where, where our shadow work, uh, uncover my hidden fears, toxic hac, self-sabotaging patterns. Oh, one of my, my life path told me, uh, podcaster would be a good, um.

Jonathan: Really 

Tom: career. Yeah. I didn't mean to skip over that. Yeah. Um, so that's very exciting. Uh, uh, hidden fears, fear of being truly seen. You crave recognition yet Dread exposure. I think that's very true. Uh, fear of losing autonomy. Uh, I resist confinement. Uh, fear of mediocrity. You sense big potential and secretly fear wasting it.

I think that's very true. Uh, that one keeps me up at night, I think sometimes. 

Jonathan: Mm-hmm. 

Tom: Do you ever have like a dark night of the soul where you just can't sleep and your mind goes to like big. Yeah. Questions now? 

Jonathan: Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. More frequently. I have nights that are, that, that are not that. [00:41:00] 

Tom: Yeah. Yeah.

Jonathan: Um, yeah, there's plenty of that. Um, that's a whole, yeah. Yeah. Yes. That's a, um, uh, and as you 

Tom: get older it's like, uh, what am I doing with my life nights? 

Jonathan: Yeah. Yeah. And then that's like, for, for me, it's like I, I've committed to a lot of the small stuff, like, like intentionally, like with kids and a family, and like, I wanna look here and I want to create, you know, very, like small and right here.

And then sometimes I'm like, well, I just checked out on the, anything bigger or like more, you know, like, and more creative or more whatever, like expansive or anything like that. It like, and then I, of course I'm like, I, I want to be here with my kids. And like, it's always a cycle of that going through. All the time.

I don't, you know, I mean, kind of stepping away from performing was like, all right, well now I'm gonna, I'm gonna look more close to home. Yeah. And 

Tom: that 

Jonathan: cycles through being like. You know, recognizing what I feel and trying to not make sure it doesn't turn into like resentment or something, but like that Yeah.

You know, that idea of like the Yeah. That, that whole, that those dark nights come through for sure. 

Tom: Yeah, totally. Uh, you know, this makes me think of when I turned 20, uh, I [00:42:00] was working, um, at Equinox, uh, and someone I worked with said, uh, told me your twenties are about, um, yourself. So it's all about focusing on you, being selfish, having fun, um, figuring out who you are.

Thirties is about your career and your focus shifts to your career and figuring out, you know, what that's gonna be. Forties is about, um, someone else and focusing on letting someone else really into your life and being a partner. And then your fifties is about turning your energy outwards to community.

Um, he didn't include kids in any of this, uh, which. Worked out for me. I don't know where they fit in, I can't tell you. But, um, uh, fifties is when you look outwards to the world and how you're giving back and how you're showing up for the world. And, um, this just all made me think about that. 

Jonathan: Yeah, 

Tom: yeah, 

Jonathan: yeah.

I like that. Um, a couple of my, my, I thought that this one, like really the shadow landscape for me, like really hit, uh, hit on some, some truths. Um, the first, the first was, uh, fear of unworthiness. [00:43:00] Uh, a deep sense that love must be earned. That's a thing I can't tell you, like. Therapist, Megan. I would say twice a month, once every couple of weeks.

We have to talk about that. We have to talk about like the sense that I work hard, but that the root of that working hard might be stuck in working hard so that I can earn the worth so that I can be worthy of love. Um, and you know, like is it a fear-based work ethic or is it a, you know, a thriving based work ethic?

Um. Uh, and that's a thing that I have to look into a lot and question. I'm wondering interesting. 

Tom: Like 

Jonathan: work hard 

Tom: at, like, just anything in life. 

Jonathan: Anything. Yeah. Like all of like, I mean, like I, I think that I pride myself on being a pretty hard worker, not very organized, but a hard worker. And, uh, like I would put work above my, any of my talents I would say.

Like I have some, some whatever, any number of, like, I have some God-given talents, but I work. Hard to get Anything that I get. I'm very proud of like working to get everything that I've gotten. But [00:44:00] that definitely, um, some of it comes from a feeling of, uh, like childhood stuff, of feeling like I had to work to get approval, I had to work to get love even, you know, like the mm-hmm.

Just getting that kind of mindset and that mindset sticking around so that now like, like at home, like with, whether it's domestic stuff or whatever, like partner stuff, whatever it is, like working. It's not even like, you know, sometimes it's from a, a positive place, a healthy place of like working so that we can all thrive.

But it definitely, like, there are some roots in like, working so that I can be, or so that I can be worthy of the life that I have and the, the love that I get. Um, you know, like a little bit, uh, there's like a deep like kind of not being totally sure that it's there to stay or that it's there for like, just for me, you know, because.

Someone loves me and not because of the things that I can do to earn that. Um, you know, that's a thing that I have been working on for a while, so they've nailed that one. Um, the savior martyr loop, the compassion can slip into control. Disguise, just [00:45:00] help trying to fix people or situations to reduce your own anxiety about chaos, which I think is pretty true.

Um. Uh, perfection paralysis. Um, that is certainly true. Like sense B two E, big destiny energy. Um, I like that. Uh, big, big destiny energy, but fear failing to meet it. Um. Emotional over attachment, read subtle energy, so well that you merge with others'. Moods, boundaries, blur, intuition becomes anxiety, and you lose track of what's actually yours.

Um, and that's pretty true. Interesting. Yeah. That's one that like, especially like as a parent modeling and not mirroring is a big thing that is talked about, you know, and that you try to like learn. And I'm fucking so bad at that because I, it's like, for, for years, what I have done is mirrored a room, mirrored the energy, mirrored who I'm talking to, mirroring what's going on.

Like I, for whatever. Wherever that came from. That is like the, the thing that I do. And so now when it's like. Truly chaotic energy because it's a smooth brain who has never been in these situations before. It's like the absolutely the wrong thing to do is [00:46:00] mirror that energy. I'm supposed to be modeling, but it's like so foreign to me to fully model in the, that's it, Mike.

My instinct is to, to latch on in chameleon to whatever, you know, is whatever's happening around me. Um, so that's certainly been a, a, a way, a area in which I've tried to put a lot of work. Yeah. Um. The, the, let's see. Uh, oh, I need, I, one of the steps I can take is to transform emotion into creation instead of letting it sit, uh, choose a medium to choose a medium, write music.

Mm-hmm. Design, uh, and pour it into it instead of just people pleasing, uh, which I think is a, uh, an interesting way to look at that. Um, finish small projects, celebrate completion, um, replace Perfect with complete. I like that. That's the thing that I can Absolutely. That's a good one. Do. Yeah. Yeah. 

Tom: Yeah. And look at your calendar.

Alright. You know what it's time for. I do. That was fun. Yeah, that was fun. I liked that we did that. All right, good. Yeah, me too. Uh, who, who would you fight? Who, which fight? Pow. Pow. 

Jonathan: [00:47:00] Whoa. 

Tom: Yeah, that was like a, that was like the alternate melody, the desk camp, the, I don't know. That's just what came out. It was, yeah.

I like what I was feeling. 

Jonathan: I 

Tom: like it. Uh, you, you go first. You go first. 

Jonathan: Okay. Uh, and I buried this, uh, because, um, I, I want to fight the guy that was sitting on the edge of the fucking Whirlpool. I won Whirlpool, the wave pool, and I watched him pick a scab off his knee. I watched at the, at the fucking waterpark here today and an hour before we sat down together, I watched a guy.

Pick a scab off his knee and flick it into the wave pool as we were getting out, and I almost threw up on him, and I wanna fight that guy. That's that that, fuck you, dude, that you are. You're the fucking problem here. You are. The absolute fucking problem dude. I don't wanna fight you. It was so fucking gross.

So gross. 

Tom: See my earlier. 

Jonathan: I know, I know. Yeah, I know. I mean, the truth is there's also like so much chlorine in that whole space that like the actual germs are not the problem, but it's fucking gross. It's gross. Gross. 

Tom: Yeah. Yeah. I wanna fight that guy. It's disgusting. 

Jonathan: I don't wanna, I, [00:48:00] 

Tom: um, I'm, I'm gonna, I I'm gonna change mine.

I wanna fight. Uh, this is not gonna be a popular one. I know, but I, I just, I wanna fight it 'cause I don't like it. Um, I don't like the rash of. Thanksgiving sandwiches you see come across all the menus in all the stores at this time of year. I don't like that you can walk into any old little thing and get a Thanksgiving wrap or this Thanksgiving croissant bullshit.

I, I did you, can I ask you a question? 

Jonathan: Did, did, did your sandwich, did your favorite sandwich get replaced with a Thanksgiving sandwich, or could you just. Not get the Thanksgiving sandwich. 

Tom: I just don't agree. I don't approve of it. I think the, the magic of the Thanksgiving sandwich, if you're into it, is that you can make it once a year for the couple days after Thanksgiving, and I don't think you should have it handed to you, uh, November 1st at Starbucks, and I don't approve.

I wanna fight it. So that's that. 

Jonathan: All right, cool. Thanks. 

Tom: Alright. [00:49:00] Read us out. 

Jonathan: No, you need to do it 'cause I closed the outline. I don't have it in front of me anymore. 

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Jonathan: Nice. You nailed that, man. Nice 

Tom: work. I did. I did. I thank you. I'm glad it was 

Jonathan: you. 

Tom: It's my life path. All right. I love you, bro. Oh wait, can we see the bathing suit? 

Jonathan: Oh, no, I'm not. I changed into shorts.

I changed in the shorts, but I'll show you the the shoes one more time if you wanna see it. 

Tom: How do I get, we just wanna see your thighs. Yeah. Okay. Woof. Woo hot. Okay, now I know what the, uh, you know, I picked the little picture on YouTube, so now I know what that is. Alright, bye. Love you. 

Jonathan: Love you, bye.