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CHASE MATTSON: Why Family Always Comes Before Fame EPISODE 10

• Viktorija Pashuta • Season 2 • Episode 10

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In this heartfelt and inspiring episode of The BASIC Show, international model and rising actor Chase Mattson joins host Viktorija Pashuta to share his journey from being scouted at Hollister to building a thriving career in fashion and entertainment — all while raising four kids and putting family first.

From the runway to the cockpit, Chase opens up about the truth of life as a male model, his transition into acting, the dream of becoming a pilot, and the importance of trust, boundaries, and balance in the spotlight. He reveals how he navigates uncomfortable casting moments, keeps his marriage strong, and protects his children’s privacy in the age of social media.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

  • How Chase was discovered at 17 and built his modeling career
  • The “bro split” workout routine that transformed his physique
  • His journey toward earning a pilot’s license and the challenges along the way
  • Acting vs. modeling — and the roles that excite him most
  • Why confidence is the secret weapon for creatives
  • Parenting lessons from raising three daughters and a baby boy
  • Setting boundaries in modeling to protect your image and integrity
  • Balancing public life, social media, and family privacy

Whether you’re in fashion, film, or pursuing your own creative dream, this episode is a masterclass in humility, resilience, and choosing what matters most.

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SPEAKER_00:

I will always and utmost be a father first. If anything else comes in contact or in the way of that, I won't do it.

SPEAKER_01:

If your wife was offered 100 million to do a full intimacy scene, would you be okay with that?

SPEAKER_00:

I just think it happens a lot more to men than people realize. Just guys are just more afraid to speak out. It's not supposed to be happening. I know a few fans who've gone through some things. I have a word in my head that I play over and over and over. Personal thing to me, and it'll get me to where I need to go. My wife and I were talking because she wants to get a Porsche or a Ferrari. I'm like, why

SPEAKER_02:

don't you

SPEAKER_00:

save it by a plane? It's cheaper. Until you see that they break that trust, then... What are you worrying about? They have to say they're a tough girl until they start smiling in the face. I'm like, I can't hear you. So they can say it over and over and over until it's funny. And they say I'm a tough girl and then they're fine. They run away.

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SPEAKER_02:

Welcome,

SPEAKER_01:

Chase, to The Basic Show.

SPEAKER_00:

Thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm happy to have you. Finally. I know. You're so busy, so famous, you know.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm not famous.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes, you are. Yes, you are.

SPEAKER_00:

Just a guy. Just a guy.

SPEAKER_01:

Just a guy. Very humble, though. So, speaking of that, humble and famous, ChatGPT told me that you were scouted at 17 in Hollister. Am I right?

SPEAKER_00:

ChatGPT?

SPEAKER_01:

Yes.

SPEAKER_00:

I asked

SPEAKER_01:

my friend, Chat, about Chase.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, I was 17. 17. And I had just gotten off my ship to Hollister and I was walking through the mall and I went to Starbucks and my old manager at the time came up to me and was like, hey, you ever been interested in modeling?

SPEAKER_02:

No,

SPEAKER_00:

not really. I didn't even know what that was, really. And then...

SPEAKER_01:

Signed you on the spot.

SPEAKER_00:

No, a year later, he gave me his card. And then a year later, I was cleaning out my wallet because I got a new wallet for my birthday. And then I was like, I'll give it a shot and see what happens. And then...

SPEAKER_01:

The

SPEAKER_00:

rest is kind of history, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And then the next day you were a soup star.

SPEAKER_00:

No, it took about, it took a minute.

SPEAKER_01:

So tell me about that journey. What was the most challenging part?

SPEAKER_00:

Getting in shape.

SPEAKER_01:

Getting, really?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

I think it's easy for guys. You just like don't eat for a week.

SPEAKER_00:

No, no, you know, you have to, but it was just, I had, I didn't know my way around a gym or anything really. So I had to really get in shape and get skinny.

SPEAKER_01:

I bet it was easy for you. No, still.

SPEAKER_00:

No, it took me like a year. Oh, really? Yeah. So I didn't really get into it fully for like another year. And then I didn't get paid for another year after that. So I did everything. It was like trade and just trying to get into shape. And I had like a round face. I didn't have like a jawline at all.

SPEAKER_01:

Wait, how do you get a jawline? There's a secret to get a jawline? Really?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. It's working out. Diet.

SPEAKER_01:

What's like the first three moves you used?

SPEAKER_00:

Moves? Yeah, in the gym.

SPEAKER_01:

Like first, like what is the first, the most essential three workout routines or exercises that any guy can do, you know, starting tomorrow and get in better shape?

SPEAKER_00:

Just follow the bro split. So it's...

SPEAKER_01:

What is it?

SPEAKER_00:

It's called the bro split.

SPEAKER_01:

Bro split?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. What is a bro split? Each day you just work out a different muscle group. So chest and then the next day you have legs and then next day you have back and shoulders.

SPEAKER_01:

Can I do the bro split?

SPEAKER_00:

You can,

SPEAKER_01:

yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

It's for anybody.

SPEAKER_01:

Should be like a gal split?

SPEAKER_00:

Girl, you'd get jacked. The gal split?

SPEAKER_01:

The gal split. I like that, yeah. I've never

SPEAKER_00:

heard about that. Okay. Anybody can do it.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, okay. So you became a model and that became your career. So if you never, let's say, had that meeting, what would you do if you didn't become a model?

SPEAKER_00:

My passion has always been flying airplanes.

SPEAKER_01:

Really?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Actually, I have my permit to fly right now. So I've always wanted to be an airline pilot.

SPEAKER_01:

Wow. What kind of... Do you need a specific license?

SPEAKER_00:

You need to log 1,500 hours to be even considered to fly for an airline. And that's very expensive. Very expensive. And it's a lot of time to learn how to fly a plane. I thought it was a lot easier than it was. And then the ground school is... is difficult because there's so many components that you have to learn. And I feel like we don't get pilots enough recognition that they deserve, especially flying us across country and across the world. It's crazy. It's actually mind-blowing because you have to learn about the curvature of the earth and everything when you're flying. Wild.

SPEAKER_01:

So how long does it take? It depends on how much time you put into the hours.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it depends on how many hours you put in. If you went every day, you can get your license in six months.

SPEAKER_01:

So you do have a license.

SPEAKER_00:

I have a permit.

SPEAKER_01:

Permit. So you need to just get...

SPEAKER_00:

My permit took me a year just because of

SPEAKER_01:

having

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four kids, being a model, actor, and just life is busy. So it took me a year to get mine. But I would go like once or twice a week.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, I could never think, I could never imagine you as a pilot.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, it's so fun. Anybody can do it.

SPEAKER_01:

Really?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Yeah. And so the day I actually got to like fly it myself with my instructor, loved it. I was like, this is crazy.

SPEAKER_01:

I'll be so scared. I think the takeoff and the landing.

SPEAKER_00:

No, the landing is what I'm scared. He's like, let's just fly

SPEAKER_01:

in the air. He's like, you want to land? I'm like, no,

SPEAKER_00:

you can take over. Let's

SPEAKER_01:

just keep flying.

SPEAKER_00:

Especially when you're landing. Because I take off at Jongwon Airport. So if there's a commercial airline that comes in, you have to fly higher than it and land further because of the wake turbulence that comes through. It'll take that plane off. And I've

SPEAKER_01:

heard that's a difficult airport too.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it's very short. It's very short. Very short, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Wow. So, so far you obviously landed successfully. He

SPEAKER_00:

landed

SPEAKER_01:

it. He landed. Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

I can take off, but I haven't landed yet.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, I see. I see. So you were next to the instructor taking off.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, it's two wheels. It's like a, it's like when you learn how to drive a car. It's two wheels.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, I

SPEAKER_00:

see. Yeah. So like I have a, I have a yoke and then he has a yoke.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And it's different. Like steering isn't like a car. You steer with the pedals. What? With the pedals? So when you're taking off, you use your feet. Wow, I didn't know that. The yoke doesn't do anything.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, so just for the show. And the legs do all the work.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it goes up and down. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01:

Is it something that you put the plane on the autopilot once you're in the air?

SPEAKER_00:

You say what?

SPEAKER_01:

You have the plane in the autopilot once you're in the air?

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, there's no autopilot on the plane I'm flying now.

SPEAKER_01:

There's no what?

SPEAKER_00:

It's a single engine plane. So it's like,

SPEAKER_01:

no,

SPEAKER_00:

there's no autopilot. Is it called

SPEAKER_01:

manual? Manual automatic?

SPEAKER_00:

No, there's no autopilot out there.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay,

SPEAKER_00:

so yeah. Maybe in the commercial planes, for sure. Okay. If they're flying from California to New York or across the world, I'm sure they have

SPEAKER_01:

an

SPEAKER_00:

autopilot. But on those little planes I'm flying, it's all manual.

SPEAKER_01:

All manual. That's it. You live or you die.

SPEAKER_00:

I even have to like pre-start the engine and then crank it and roll it. Oh, God. Oh, God. No, I would

SPEAKER_01:

have a heart attack. I'm like, no, thanks.

SPEAKER_00:

It's cool. Like I have my window down. I'm just like clearing and the propellers are spinning right here. Open

SPEAKER_01:

up the huge map. Yeah. I'm like clear. And I'm going for the landing.

SPEAKER_00:

No, it's really cool. It's a

SPEAKER_01:

lot of fun. Well, so you say if you have a chance, you would actually pursue it?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, that would be my backup plan. Your backup plan,

SPEAKER_01:

okay.

SPEAKER_00:

If like acting doesn't...

SPEAKER_01:

Once your beauty fades, you know. It'll never happen, I'm joking. Beauty's not fading. Yeah, you're going to age like nice, what is it, expensive?

SPEAKER_00:

It would be cool to be like, just have it. You know how Tom Cruise has like 26 licenses across the board for everything you can fly? It'd be cool to like have... one and then like hey you guys want to fly to san francisco this weekend with the family and just take the plane and fly the

SPEAKER_01:

world comes into an end you're like hey guys

SPEAKER_00:

yeah i was talking about my wife and i were talking because she wants to get like a porsche or a ferrari i'm like why don't you say we could buy a plane it's cheaper

SPEAKER_01:

yeah no traffic

SPEAKER_00:

35 grand for a plane

SPEAKER_01:

yeah i mean nothing come on 25 yeah yeah Just, you know, from

SPEAKER_00:

one city to another. It's just expensive to park the plane at the airport. That's where it gets

SPEAKER_01:

expensive. I see. Well, one day once you get it, don't forget your friend. You need to fly to

SPEAKER_00:

Vegas. Long line of lists of people who want to hop in the plane and fly, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah. Well, so now you mentioned a little bit that you're doing acting, transitioning from models. You're not doing modeling anymore? You're doing more of an

SPEAKER_00:

actor? No, I'm always doing modeling. That's always there. Like, Brian wants to book me and always available. But the main... my course of action is acting

SPEAKER_01:

right

SPEAKER_00:

now. I've been in classes for three years. Oh, you

SPEAKER_01:

need to take classes? I thought you just have to be fabulous.

SPEAKER_00:

No, if you want to be great, you should take classes. I mean, there's people who don't have to take classes at all and who are amazing, but I'm one of the people who need classes because I don't really understand the craft. Well, I do now, but I get what needs to go into it, but before I didn't really.

SPEAKER_02:

And

SPEAKER_00:

it's all about just, honestly, I've seen all these podcasts, I've read all these books and everything. It comes down to just confidence. and

SPEAKER_01:

really

SPEAKER_00:

yeah it's honestly that's it

SPEAKER_01:

i thought it all comes to if i say on count three start crying

SPEAKER_00:

some people can it takes me like a couple minutes but i can really yeah it'll take me a couple minutes i have to like kind of

SPEAKER_01:

can we try

SPEAKER_00:

sit here and like think about something and kind of play a i have a word in my head that i play over and over and over

SPEAKER_02:

which is

SPEAKER_00:

i don't want to say it it's like a personal thing to me and it'll it'll get me to where i need to go it's just one word one word but just said in different types of ways. Oh,

SPEAKER_01:

interesting. Can you give us, is it a noun, an adjective? A name? A name. Okay, I see. It's a name. Is it something that you learned, the technique, or it's more of your personal way?

SPEAKER_00:

Everybody's different. I've just seen people just say you have to just go to a certain place if you need to go there. Some people go really dark. I've gone really dark before and I didn't like where I ended up. So then I tried to find the balance. And so I just picked a word that meant a lot to me. I'm like, what gets me like super emotional? And then I've kind of found the more this word was said, I was like, okay, this, this moves me a lot. So I just use that as a way to get me to. turn on the

SPEAKER_01:

yeah

SPEAKER_00:

the tears

SPEAKER_01:

that's kind of freaky you know i was i was i don't know i was always thinking actors a little bit psychopath here because i have to kind of emotionally go through that pain uh all over over again can you do they teach you how to separate your character from your

SPEAKER_00:

yeah you gotta think your character stocks i don't think Your thoughts. I can't think Chase's thoughts. I got to think my character's

SPEAKER_01:

thoughts. Oh, your character's

SPEAKER_00:

thoughts.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, because I think if you don't do it right, you might just

SPEAKER_00:

end up... Yeah, as soon as... If I have a scene or a script, I have the dialogue on there, and it's just full of notes. Every line, every word, everything is just broken down. I had to figure out who I am and who everybody else is in that scene and in the script. It's a lot of work. I didn't know how much went into it before, and I was like, oh, whatever. Acting is easy.

UNKNOWN:

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00:

And when you sit down and actually work with the scripts, it's just, it's crazy. It's a lot of work.

SPEAKER_01:

Did you, um, did you have to practice in a sense to, like, how did you learn that? Did you, did you have a mentor or classes, just two classes? Yeah. They teach you all

SPEAKER_00:

the things. Yeah. I went to a Playhouse West.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, off Lincolnshire for two years. And then now I'm at a Leslie Kahn studio and then they're, Playhouse West is all about Meisner technique. Okay. And then Leslie Kahn is all about thinking your character's thoughts.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

And like doing what's on the script.

SPEAKER_02:

I

SPEAKER_00:

see. So I like, I like, I love both schools. They both have different things to teach you and they're both really well.

SPEAKER_01:

So if somebody wants to get into acting, do you think it's more about the skill or the connections of both?

SPEAKER_00:

You have to have the passion to do it. The passion to do it. Yeah. If you don't have the passion and you're just in it to be like famous, it's not going to go far.

SPEAKER_01:

I

SPEAKER_00:

see. If you're in it to find the craft and like, build on that then you'll go further there's been jobs where i've taken no money just because i know the script is really good and there's jobs that are throwing money at me but the script is not good i'm like i don't really

SPEAKER_01:

so which was the movie or the script you took that which was the movie or the script you took on like for a little money just because you were passionate about it what was it about

SPEAKER_00:

um my buddy actually wrote it's a horror film okay yeah it's called peripheral it'll be out next month in august um i mean i was a small part in it and I didn't get paid, but he's my friend and the script was really good. And I was like, I really want, I want to be a part of this as I know it's going to be really good. So he wrote me a part in it. And yeah, so it was pretty good. They showed it at a few like festivals and stuff. And my part that gets a big jump scare. So I've been told. I can't imagine you look

SPEAKER_01:

so cute and sweet. I can't imagine you being in a horror movie.

SPEAKER_00:

I would love to play the villain. I would rather be the villain in a movie than the hero.

SPEAKER_01:

Why?

SPEAKER_00:

Just because there's more that a villain can offer, I feel like.

SPEAKER_01:

Like a Joker?

SPEAKER_00:

Yes. Joker's my favorite villain ever. But nobody can top Heath. Nobody can top

SPEAKER_01:

Heath. You have to smile less. For the Joker, you have to be a little...

SPEAKER_00:

Well, he smiled a lot, but...

SPEAKER_01:

Like in a freaky smile.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah,

SPEAKER_01:

yeah. So if you had to cast right now for the Joker, give us the face.

SPEAKER_00:

Give you my Joker face? Yeah. Oh, man.

SPEAKER_01:

Yep, I'm gonna

SPEAKER_00:

push on this one. I would just have to... I don't know, it's more like it, but I gotta work at it.

SPEAKER_01:

Can I give us the girl's name? The Joker's girlfriend.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, Harley Quinn?

SPEAKER_01:

Harley Quinn?

SPEAKER_00:

She's like all over the place. She's all over the place,

SPEAKER_01:

yeah. So you've been, you know, in many campaigns, you work with many brands. I assume you attended a lot of castings. What's like the weirdest thing you've been asked to do at the casting?

SPEAKER_00:

I'm not gonna name

SPEAKER_01:

names, but.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, modeling for 12 years, you see a lot and you get asked a lot of things. And there was one time where I was asked to wear these, these um

SPEAKER_01:

borat monokini yeah

SPEAKER_00:

yeah like suspenders

SPEAKER_01:

really

SPEAKER_00:

like underwear suspenders

SPEAKER_01:

underwear suspenders

SPEAKER_00:

for men

SPEAKER_01:

do they exist

SPEAKER_00:

i've i actually saw someone wearing them at the

SPEAKER_01:

beach here in california

SPEAKER_00:

yeah i was shocked but i was i was i don't know what does

SPEAKER_01:

it look like what do you attach it to

SPEAKER_00:

your shoulders yeah

SPEAKER_01:

i know i know but the bottom just to do things

SPEAKER_00:

it just goes around up and around

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

I thought this was the underwear. They're like, it is.

SPEAKER_01:

But what's the point of this? So it doesn't fall? I don't know. It's

SPEAKER_00:

like too big to hold it in? I just said, I'm not doing that. So

SPEAKER_01:

you said you're not doing that. And what happened then?

SPEAKER_00:

They just didn't book me.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, man. That's sad. So I assume you

SPEAKER_00:

have to... I'm okay with that. That was perfectly fine. Did you

SPEAKER_01:

know that's going to happen?

SPEAKER_00:

No, I had no idea. I was going in to shoot for underwear. Not expecting that to be there.

UNKNOWN:

Okay.

SPEAKER_01:

So how did you handle that? Did you call your agent? Oh,

SPEAKER_00:

I just said, I don't feel comfortable doing that. I said, I don't feel comfortable shooting that. I'm going to have to excuse myself. And then they were all upset. I was like, I

SPEAKER_01:

just

SPEAKER_00:

give my agent a call and they're aware of the situation. I

SPEAKER_01:

like that. for something, I'm in an uncomfortable situation, I'm sorry, I've got to excuse myself. Yeah. And just extract myself

SPEAKER_00:

from the situation. I was like, yeah, I can't do this. Okay. So that's the most professional way I was kind of was like, I need to get out of here.

SPEAKER_01:

Right. But obviously you have to, obviously you have paid jobs and you need to be a Canva for the project, but at the same time, it's your personal integrity, right? It's

SPEAKER_00:

your

SPEAKER_01:

image as well.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. I also have four brothers at home who would never let me live it down. Oh, yeah. They'd probably frame it and put it in the

SPEAKER_01:

bathroom. Yeah. Not long in this family.

SPEAKER_00:

No, they would just make fun of me all the time. You're

SPEAKER_01:

like, no.

SPEAKER_00:

That'd probably be their contact photo if they called me. Yeah, for years to come.

SPEAKER_01:

So what else happened? What other weird asks you had? We want to hear. It's

SPEAKER_00:

Hollywood, baby. You get asked things all the time. You just got to know your morals and stick with it.

SPEAKER_01:

So how do you stay professional? Because obviously we've heard a lot about situations like this happening with female models, but nobody really talks about, you know, inappropriate behavior towards male models. And after I talked to female models, I didn't realize how bad it is. And the famous male model told me that it's happening to him way more than his female colleagues. What do you think about that? I

SPEAKER_00:

just think it happens a lot more to men than people realize. And just guys are just... more afraid to speak out because it's just it's not supposed to be happening i know a few fans who've who've gone through some things i'm not gonna name names or who did it but

SPEAKER_02:

yeah

SPEAKER_00:

it's definitely changed them and they quit the industry

SPEAKER_02:

oh wow

SPEAKER_00:

so yeah more more guys are speaking out which i'm glad um but i've been in a situation where a girl had told me that we were on a like a three or four day shoot and she had told me that the first day after we shot that somebody was being a little handsy with her. And then I was like, okay, if you're not going to go, I'm not going to show up either. And then they're kind of screwed. So we both didn't show up and then they're asking why. So we explained the situation. I was like, I don't feel comfortable being on set. If somebody is doing that to her, me as a dad and like with my morals, it's like, I don't feel comfortable with that at all. So that person was let go. And then we came back to the shoot and finished the job.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, speaking of you being a dad, What are the lessons, I guess, you learned from your daughters? I know you have four beautiful daughters. Three

SPEAKER_00:

daughters. And we just welcomed a son.

SPEAKER_01:

My

SPEAKER_00:

son's four months old.

SPEAKER_01:

Congratulations. I thought for some reason it was all four girls. We

SPEAKER_00:

got the one boy.

SPEAKER_01:

Shopping and partying. I mean, if it was four girls...

SPEAKER_00:

Four girls, I mean, whatever. We were saving everything from our third daughter, just in case. And now we had a boy, and his name's Cash. Everything pink is gone. Everything blue is in now.

SPEAKER_01:

That's so much fun. So what have you learned from your daughters?

SPEAKER_00:

Any lesson

SPEAKER_01:

you learned?

SPEAKER_00:

Patience.

SPEAKER_01:

Patience?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. I've grown a lot of patience, and then more... That's the word I'm looking for. More respect for women in general. Overall, honestly, just patience, respect, and just love.

SPEAKER_01:

So how do you see yourself as a dad to what kind of, I guess, qualities you want to instill in your daughters for them to be happy human beings when they grow up?

SPEAKER_00:

I'm kind of raising them the same way my parents kind of raised me is independent, but Don't shy away from being also codependent on a partner later in life. My wife and I, we were both very independent, but we're also codependent on each other to make our family grow. And I just want them to not be afraid. Siri went off. Hey Siri, join

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the conversation.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, Siri, goodbye. I instilled in them to just be independent women, like young girls, and not be afraid of wanting to try things or try new food or something like that and never be afraid to tell me something. I was like, if you come and talk to me about it first, even if it's something you did that was wrong, you'll have, it'll be less of a punishment if you just came to me directly and told me instead of me finding out or you're lying to me and then finding out later. So it's been a back and forth with that, especially with my oldest one right now because she's 11. She's a young woman soon to be 13 and two years. So the transition's coming and I can see it. She's definitely her own person. So it's just, there's no script. There's no rule book. You can read all the books you want as a parent, but there is every kid and every child is different. But we're just, as long as you instill love and compassion and support, it'll go a long way.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I love that. No, I agree. You have to establish the trust, right? Trust, 100%. um you know fear of punishment yeah you have to like you said correctly i mean i don't have kids but that's how i was raised you know in my family that my mom always used to say if you tell me the truth nothing's gonna happen to you so you always feel that you know security and safety that you can speak to your parents and you're not gonna get punished or put in a corner

SPEAKER_00:

yeah i always tell them i feel more hurt if you lie to me than if you tell me the truth even though the truth may hurt too i You would break my heart if you lied to me. Especially to my face. I don't like that. Why don't you just tell me the truth? And don't ever be afraid to come to me and talk to me about something. That's kind of what I tell them all the time.

SPEAKER_01:

Do you believe talking to kids as an adult? Young

SPEAKER_00:

adults, yes. I don't talk to them like they're babies. I treat them like they're young adults. My oldest, Hazel, is 11. Nora is 7, turning 8. So I talk to them like they're young adults and teenagers. Trying to navigate the way in the world, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, also, I must say like your situation is unique because you are very handsome, successful model, actor. I'm sure you get so much attention and now you're a father. How do you balance, you know, having a family, especially like pretty big family for an average folk, having a family and also be in the entertainment industry?

SPEAKER_00:

I will always and utmost be a father first.

SPEAKER_01:

If

SPEAKER_00:

anything else comes in contact or in the way of that, I won't do it. So I have to be a dad and a husband first before anything else. So once that's all... Like my day is family, wife, kids all day. And then when they go to bed at 8 o'clock, then I start working on my acting scripts or reading scenes or writing short films and stuff. I've written a couple short films that I'm going to be filming myself. But it's just... And they're in school all day. So if I have to do something in LA, I make sure it's during the day so I can get back and see them when I get out of school and I'm back in time for dinner as well.

SPEAKER_01:

Do you consider yourself a stay-at-home dad? I

SPEAKER_00:

guess yes and no.

SPEAKER_01:

So who spends more time with the kids?

SPEAKER_00:

We're both with the kids all the time. My wife and I, we're home all the time. Because we also do social media. So we work from home. But if I have to come up to LA for podcasts or casting or an audition or something, she'll stay home.

SPEAKER_02:

And

SPEAKER_00:

then I'll come up here or the girls will be at school and I'll be up here and she'll be at home. So I guess she's more of a stay-at-home mom. So how

SPEAKER_01:

did you divide the responsibilities? Is it more like you guys in agreement or did you have some kind of arguments? Oh, like I'm doing more than you know, than you.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, no, we both, we don't argue about that. We both bring 100%. It's always like, oh, 50-50. I'm like, then that's, you're doing half the work. We bring 100 and 100 together. Now we have 200%. We don't have 100%. We have 200%. So we'll talk about it. I'm like, hey, I have podcasts coming up.

SPEAKER_02:

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00:

So then like today, she took my two younger kids to grandma's house. And so they're over there swimming and stuff right now. So yeah, we do a pretty good job of balancing it all. And we have this giant calendar in our house with everything that we have to like break down for the week

SPEAKER_01:

because I cannot imagine I mean having one kid and being busy but then have now four kids

SPEAKER_00:

do

SPEAKER_01:

you guys planning on having more no

SPEAKER_00:

we are done my older two are busy they're in sports and extracurricular activities like during summer camp all week

SPEAKER_02:

and like

SPEAKER_00:

they're in all these different like activities and stuff so they're busy

SPEAKER_02:

and

SPEAKER_00:

They're at school from eight to three and then some other activities from nine to one. So they're always busy. But it is definitely a lot right now with us having two kids under two. It's a whirlwind, but we're making it work.

SPEAKER_01:

I would say you look really relaxed for having that many kids.

SPEAKER_00:

Patience.

SPEAKER_01:

Like what's the key? I mean, I guess it depends on the parents, but some parents I see, they say, I don't have time to do this, to do that. They look like shit. But then I look at you. You're so relaxed and calm. And I obviously follow you on social media. You're always doing something. How do you stay calm? I

SPEAKER_00:

just don't sweat the little things. Because we were all kids. I know what I did when I was a kid. And half the things that they do isn't even close to what I was doing. And like I said, just every kid I've had, I've just gotten more and more patient. I mean, there's days where I'm like, you guys need it. Go away from me. But that's really rare. It's really rare.

SPEAKER_01:

So do you think that your approach is different, let's say, after second, third kid, when you had your first kid, in terms of letting more things slide? Not

SPEAKER_00:

slide.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Like slide with them? Yeah,

SPEAKER_01:

like slide. Like, yeah, you can just go bump your head in a wall or... It's like you take it more easy.

SPEAKER_00:

If they fall or bump their head, I've still been the same with them. So my saying is if they fall and get hurt, I'll wait. I won't go help them up. I'll let them get up themselves. And then they can come to me and then I'll talk to them and have them tell me what is wrong. They'll tell me and I'm like, okay, who are you?

SPEAKER_01:

You asked them?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I'm like, who are you? And so I try to instill them for them, especially my girls. I want them to, they have to say they're a tough girl until they start smiling in the face. So I'm like, I can't hear you. So they can say it over and over and over until it's funny. And they say I'm a tough girl and then they're fine. They run away.

SPEAKER_01:

Can you ask me that?

SPEAKER_00:

How are you?

SPEAKER_01:

I'm a tough girl.

SPEAKER_00:

How are you?

SPEAKER_01:

I'm a tough girl.

SPEAKER_00:

What?

SPEAKER_01:

I'm a tough girl.

SPEAKER_00:

I can't hear you.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm a tough girl.

SPEAKER_00:

I can't hear you.

SPEAKER_01:

I am a tough girl.

SPEAKER_00:

See?

SPEAKER_01:

I feel badass

SPEAKER_00:

now. Yeah, exactly. See? That works. Oh, my God.

SPEAKER_01:

I already feel so much more confident.

SPEAKER_00:

Relaxed.

SPEAKER_01:

Amazing. So speaking of you, you're obviously so charming and charismatic. I'm sure you get so much attention from women on social media. Does your wife ever get jealous?

SPEAKER_00:

Never. Not once.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't believe.

SPEAKER_00:

She does not. You can bring her on here. She does not. She knows I will never, ever leave her.

SPEAKER_01:

It's probably because she has the trust in you.

SPEAKER_00:

Trust. Both of us. I love that woman. She's awesome.

SPEAKER_01:

So tell me, is it true, ChatGPT told me, that she's... My friend, my other friend, Chat, told me that she slid into your DMs during COVID. She did. So tell us. So do you think it's okay for the woman to make a first move? Of course. Really?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, of course. Anybody should make a move. If they're... Want a shot? It

SPEAKER_01:

wouldn't set you off that somebody is putting more intent?

SPEAKER_00:

I'm excited that you reached out to me and you want to pursue a relationship. Yeah, by all means. So

SPEAKER_01:

it wouldn't be a turn off?

SPEAKER_00:

No, not at all.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. So what happened next?

SPEAKER_00:

So she reached out and it was April of 2020. So it was prime COVID. And she said, hey. And I was like looking at my DMs and I was like, who's this girl?

SPEAKER_01:

All she said, just hey?

SPEAKER_00:

Just hey.

SPEAKER_01:

wow

SPEAKER_00:

and i responded i was like hey what's up and then she sends me this essay of what's up okay i was like i was not expecting that i was just like oh nothing just hanging out but it was an essay what she was doing she's in texas at the time

SPEAKER_02:

okay

SPEAKER_00:

explain why she's in texas i was just like all right that sounds great when you're coming back to cali ha ha

SPEAKER_02:

ha

SPEAKER_00:

essay full breakdown okay i'm like okay she's interested so i need to okay a little bit more of a detailed text so i i dm'd her back like i'd say about an essay back and then we were talking for a couple days and i was like hey what's your phone number i'd rather text you than

SPEAKER_02:

yeah yeah

SPEAKER_00:

i respond way faster on texting than i do on social media and i don't want to be on social media any more than i have to be so then she sent me her number and i facetimed her immediately and then It went straight to voicemail. Did she

SPEAKER_01:

pick up? Yeah, I wouldn't pick up. I'd be like, hey, come on. I'm in my PJs right now.

SPEAKER_00:

She was like, did you mean to call me? And I said, yes. Can you answer? So I called her and then she answered. I was like, okay. And then she asked me why I did that. And I was like, I've been catfished a few times.

SPEAKER_01:

So I

SPEAKER_00:

was like, I had to make sure you were a real person before I invested my time.

SPEAKER_01:

Very interesting.

SPEAKER_00:

And then we talked for two weeks. I asked her out. I asked her to be my girlfriend in May of 2020, and then I asked her to marry me in December of 2020.

SPEAKER_01:

Wait, hold on. Let's break this down. You started talking in April,

SPEAKER_00:

in

SPEAKER_01:

May. We

SPEAKER_00:

started talking in April.

SPEAKER_01:

April.

SPEAKER_00:

And then we started dating in May. Dating

SPEAKER_01:

in May. At

SPEAKER_00:

the end of May, yeah. So a month later from when we were talking.

SPEAKER_01:

And then you proposed when?

SPEAKER_00:

In December of that year.

SPEAKER_01:

December. Yeah. So let me ask you this. A lot of women would be interested. When was the moment in her that made you think, I want to marry this woman?

SPEAKER_00:

The first day she met my older two daughters.

SPEAKER_01:

Which was how long after you started dating?

SPEAKER_00:

So we started dating in May, so it was two months after.

SPEAKER_01:

So you trusted her enough?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I never brought anybody around. Right, that's what I'm saying. It's a

SPEAKER_01:

big move, right? Yeah. I think for you.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. And I knew, I trusted her enough to bring her around. And then just how my girls took to her and how she took to the girls, I was like, oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01:

That was it.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. That's actually in my vows, too. That in my vows.

SPEAKER_01:

Again?

SPEAKER_00:

I put that in my vows. Wow, how

SPEAKER_01:

romantic. How romantic. So let's say if you didn't have your daughters, let's imagine this hypothetical situation. What would be the quality, I guess, in a woman that you... think it's important for you to consider marrying her?

SPEAKER_00:

Trust, love, and compassion for one another. If you don't have trust, you don't have, honestly, trust. If you don't have trust, you don't have anything. Everything else just goes out the window. So as long as you have trust, love, compassion, also communication, then you guys will

SPEAKER_01:

thrive. But so how do you test that? Because you don't really, once you start seeing somebody, you don't really know them. So how do you know that you can trust them?

SPEAKER_00:

Fate.

SPEAKER_01:

You believe in fate?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I believe in fate. To believe your wife is your fate. Fate and faith, you just, until you see that they break that trust, then what are you worrying about? You're just going to constantly worry about, are they doing this, are they doing that, are they doing this? You're so fixated on what they're doing instead of what you're doing and how you're feeling. So I don't fixate on that. Until the day you break that trust, then I'll worry about it. But I have nothing to worry about.

SPEAKER_01:

She's never broken your trust. Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

And I've never broken hers. We

SPEAKER_01:

need some reality check. Is there anything that may be slightly annoying, but you tolerate in your wife or in a relationship?

SPEAKER_00:

Oh. I

SPEAKER_01:

bet there should be something. I don't believe it's all... I mean, I'm so happy for you, but I want

SPEAKER_00:

to know the reality of it. Every relationship has their ups and downs, clearly. We have more ups and downs.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, that's great. Okay, that's good.

SPEAKER_00:

Something that bothers me? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Be careful, because I might not have dinner. I

SPEAKER_00:

can make my own dinner. Oh. Big boy. Okay, I see. I can cook dinner.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, so you cook dinner. Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

My meal prep. I'll enjoy my glass of food.

SPEAKER_01:

I see. I see.

SPEAKER_00:

No, we're not like that.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. But something, let's say, okay, so let me paraphrase it. Imagine you in this beautiful, loving relationship and there's certain things that your partner does you don't like. Is it something to address or walk away or compromise something of your habits or ways you see life just because you want to be with that person that much?

SPEAKER_00:

It's nothing. She... does it's ever had me like walk away. If we ever had an issue,

SPEAKER_02:

like

SPEAKER_00:

I'm very open and I will discuss if I have a problem about something. I think it goes both ways for her and I is something that we're both trying to work on is we do social media for a job. So it's finding that time throughout the day is when do we stop working? You know, even like when we're with the kids, it's, let's put the phone down and just enjoy our time with the kids. Sometimes at night we're scrolling, trying to find things to do, editing and stuff. And, you know, it's just, I try to tell them, we should create, can't find the word. I'm running out of the word. Find

SPEAKER_01:

the time. Find

SPEAKER_00:

the time. Treat

SPEAKER_01:

it.

SPEAKER_00:

Treat it as a job.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh,

SPEAKER_00:

I see. Like a nine to five job. Like even though we don't have a nine to five job, treat it as a nine to five. So like five o'clock rolls around or whatever. Oh, wait. So you're treating your

SPEAKER_01:

relationship as a...

SPEAKER_00:

No, no, no. Just social media.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, social media.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, I see. That's the thing that... Yeah. So it's never anything that she does specifically. We're both... We both do it. It's just trying to stay off our phones as much as we can. We never have phones out at dinner. Like my daughters, they don't have phones. They don't have iPads. Nothing. They can... Play on our phones and stuff at home for like a little bit next to us. Or like if they want to watch a couple TikToks with us, they can. But they don't have phones and iPads or anything like that. So it would just be her and I trying to find that time to disconnect from social media. And I actually started two weeks ago is no social media, no phones on Sundays.

SPEAKER_01:

What? I

SPEAKER_00:

love that. Zero. No technology. Well, not technology, but just no phones on Sundays.

UNKNOWN:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

So it's been going pretty good.

SPEAKER_01:

It's good, yeah. So it's like you're creating your little traditions, like family traditions that helps to keep the family strong.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, because all of our social media online is family content. So we're always making videos, editing, posting all the time. So sometimes we've got to just shut it down

SPEAKER_02:

and

SPEAKER_00:

enjoy the moment that we're in. So I've been doing that a lot lately. I used to post on Snapchat every single day to the point where I was not really... involved in what was actually happening so i stopped like cold turkey stopped posting on snapchat and then actually felt a lot better so like

SPEAKER_01:

living

SPEAKER_00:

i feel more creative on instagram and tiktok now because i'm not having to post everything all day every day

SPEAKER_01:

yeah

SPEAKER_00:

so it's actually kind of nice

SPEAKER_01:

it's like social media detox in a sense

SPEAKER_00:

it really is yeah it really is and i've noticed i'm scrolling on tiktok or social media in general a lot my eyes get really red

SPEAKER_01:

and

SPEAKER_00:

i'm like Because it's dopamine. Exactly. The

SPEAKER_01:

algorithm works just to keep you on it 24-7. I'll get

SPEAKER_00:

the, hey, you still awake? Why are you watching? Oh, bedtime.

SPEAKER_01:

Exactly. You have to have the little notifications. Time is up.

SPEAKER_00:

I love

SPEAKER_01:

that. So speaking of your family routine, so being so busy and having the kids, and I know many families struggle to keep up the romance. Do you guys have certain... Not rituals, but moments that you plan or do just for you two, not involving kids or having kids and being in the family 24-7?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, before our fourth baby was born, we went out together. It was like, we made sure that we had time to go out at least once a week, just her and I. Yeah, just her and I without the kids and stuff.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

But... we're very much romantically in love for sure. And we both love doing things with our children. We take trips with them all the time. If I take a trip, yeah, it's fun for the first day or two. And then we're both kind of like, dang, we wish the girls were here. We can go

SPEAKER_02:

show

SPEAKER_00:

the girls. Yeah. So it's, it's hard to explain.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Explain to us because, you know, a lot of families feel like, oh, the spark is gone. We'll be so busy. Yeah. Is it something, obviously, I know you have deep feelings and love.

SPEAKER_00:

If the spark is gone, then it was never really there.

SPEAKER_01:

Say again?

SPEAKER_00:

If the spark is gone, it was never really there.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, I see.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. So you can't just say the spark is gone. You have to still make time for each other. So we still make time for each other.

SPEAKER_02:

But

SPEAKER_00:

right now with our new baby, it is a little difficult. But because he's feeding every two hours and he's up all night and stuff, so... before he was born it was like when all the kids went to sleep then we would her and i would watch a movie or a show together and hang out and but right now it's it's a lot right now

SPEAKER_01:

it's a lot

SPEAKER_00:

yeah baby but

SPEAKER_01:

so how do you think you're handling it

SPEAKER_00:

i mean fine

SPEAKER_01:

just like that fine

SPEAKER_00:

fine yeah i mean it's just it's life it's everyone goes through ups and downs so you have to ride the lows to get back up to the highs

SPEAKER_01:

i think very important question is who is doing the chores

SPEAKER_00:

Me. You? Mm-hmm. She's mommy.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, so you are?

SPEAKER_00:

She's breastfeeding, helping take care of the kids. First thing I wake up is I make myself coffee, and I start cleaning the house. Uh-huh. I mean, sometimes I go to bed, I'm like, poor kids, the house is a tornado. So you're cooking, you're cleaning,

SPEAKER_01:

taking care of the kids. Mm-hmm. Where can we find more people like you? Asking for a friend. I

SPEAKER_00:

would say any one of my brothers, but they're all married now.

UNKNOWN:

What?

SPEAKER_01:

So is it something that instilled within your family and your culture? Yeah. Where are you from originally? California. Oh, California. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

That was something my parents kind of instilled into us. So

SPEAKER_01:

what do you think about like masculine, feminine role? Do you believe, what do you think are the responsibilities of the man in the family? And what are the responsibilities of a woman in a family?

SPEAKER_00:

I think that's neither here nor there. Things need to get done for the family. As long as they're done for the family, I don't care who did it.

UNKNOWN:

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00:

They're done.

SPEAKER_01:

So let's say, would you be okay if let's say you would be doing 100% of it?

SPEAKER_00:

Like cleaning the house and everything? Oh, I do all the time. I think like 95% of the time I clean the house.

SPEAKER_01:

I see. Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

And I have no problem with that at all.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

I think I'm more of like OCD freak where I put away all the girls' toys and all my baby's toys and help clean up. But my older two daughters help me clean up and stuff too. They have chores they got to do and stuff. But especially with my wife, taking care of our baby and breastfeeding and stuff. It's taxing, it's a lot on her. The least I can do is clean the house. It's not a

SPEAKER_01:

problem. Yeah, I feel like, I guess you're right. I just feel like nowadays the standards are so low.

SPEAKER_00:

Like I said, 100 and 100 together. 100 and 100, yeah. If I have to clean the house while she's taking care of the baby, push the baby out. That's the least I can do. It's not a problem.

SPEAKER_01:

I

SPEAKER_00:

had just torn my ACL and I was cleaning the house on my wheelchair.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, that's right. How did that happen? I

SPEAKER_00:

was playing football. I just landed wrong. Which is crazy because I played for my whole life and never had a problem. I think my foot got caught in a hole and I was landing.

SPEAKER_01:

Your foot got in a hole?

SPEAKER_00:

It was a really not great field we were playing on. So it was like a gopher hole or something.

SPEAKER_01:

What is it called? The brace?

SPEAKER_00:

I had a full metal brace on my leg. For... a while

SPEAKER_01:

so you're vacuuming with the brace and everything

SPEAKER_00:

yeah yeah i was just i just want i just wanted to do something and get out of the from sitting on the couch and just do something constructive yeah be useful because i just felt like a sack of potatoes just sitting there she's taking care of all four of the kids breastfeeding making lunches and i just feel useless so i just hopped in the wheelchair and just started vacuuming and she took a video i know That's

SPEAKER_01:

fun.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. The comments are a little crazy, but we don't really listen to them.

SPEAKER_01:

So how do you address the negative comments? Have you ever been digitally bullied?

SPEAKER_00:

Everyone has an opinion, and you can either choose to comment and feed into it or not. Do you

SPEAKER_01:

look through the comments?

SPEAKER_00:

We look at them.

SPEAKER_01:

You look at them,

SPEAKER_00:

right? Yeah. It's just funny, people's opinion on things that they are uneducated about, especially women. within our family. People like to think they know us and they really don't. Like with the wheelchair thing, people thought that she was making me do that. I willingly did that. Nobody makes me do anything. So it's kind of- They try to

SPEAKER_01:

find something negative.

SPEAKER_00:

They try to find something negative. So people like to see you rise just to see you fall. And she actually kind of taught me that, my wife, she told me not to feed into comments because it just-

SPEAKER_01:

Exactly, because you're more feeding into, you're giving them that negative energy and feeding into

SPEAKER_00:

that. Yeah. I scroll, I look through them. They're funny. Some of them are funny. I'm just like, oh my God, what are you guys talking about?

SPEAKER_01:

But how do you feel? It's one thing to put yourself on social media and be open about it, but there's been sort of like the social dilemma putting your kids in social media, right? Do you think, because they don't have a say right now, they cannot say, oh, when I'm going to be 16 or 18, my pictures of me being three, four or five years old, my whole life is pretty much documented and out there online, right? How do you address that in terms of keeping you on privacy?

SPEAKER_00:

There's a lot we don't post. We take a lot of videos, but we don't post everything that they do. But yeah, I have had conversations with both my daughters about it. And I said, if you ever feel uncomfortable, you don't want to film or anything, you can always tell me and it's totally fine. So I've had my older daughter say she didn't want to be on camera today when we were doing something. I was like, no problem. And then I'll post stuff and they're like, people, where's your, where's your older two daughters or where's your daughter?

SPEAKER_02:

They

SPEAKER_00:

didn't want to be on the camera today and I have to just play all their dress school or something, you know? So it's like, sometimes they don't want to do it and that's totally fine. They don't have to. But then there'll be days where they don't want to do it, and then they're the ones recording us. Now they're professional. Yeah, they're like, can we record? I'm like, yeah, sure, take it. Do it. By all means. Must be nice to

SPEAKER_01:

have mini minions, you know?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, literally. Literally, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Mini minions doing everything for

SPEAKER_00:

you. I have my Ray-Ban glasses, the recording ones, so I'll put them on them sometimes, and I'll get their point of view. Oh,

SPEAKER_01:

that's cool. So they're actually recording.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, those are the ones I wore when I came in here.

SPEAKER_01:

Secret spy.

SPEAKER_00:

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01:

So having your family and the daughters and you're being a successful model, tell me what are your aspirations and goals in acting? What is your immediate short-term goal at the moment? Where are you trying to get with it? I know you wanted to be in the horror movie, I mean, play a villain. But are you looking to ideally play maybe in a big Marvel movie? Comic blockbuster.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, that would be great. That'd be great. But I don't think I would want to. I don't. I would love to do that. But I don't think I'd want to do that starting out

SPEAKER_02:

because

SPEAKER_00:

I don't know what would line up after that or if I would be taken seriously as an actor after

SPEAKER_01:

like

SPEAKER_00:

a superhero movie.

SPEAKER_01:

Stereotype, right?

SPEAKER_00:

Stereotypical superhero role. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

I would take it. You could be a good Superman.

SPEAKER_00:

Superman? No, that's Henry Cavill right there. Henry Cavill is my Superman. Henry Cavill, for sure. I would want to establish myself more of an actor before I take a role like that, but if they did come to me, I would by all means take it because... I'll take

SPEAKER_01:

it. I'll play Superman.

SPEAKER_00:

I guess. That's DC. Superman's DC.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, sorry, DC. Excuse me.

SPEAKER_00:

No, no worries. I'm going to get trolled online if I don't correct it. Please

SPEAKER_01:

do. I'm not into that whole DC

SPEAKER_00:

Marvel. He doesn't know what he's talking about. Yeah, so it'd be cool. I like I like Timothee Chalamet's whole acting career, how he's doing all these other projects and stuff. He's kind of staying away from superhero roles, so I do like his whole career. But I also do like Tom Holland's career, too, where he has taken Spider-Man roles, but he has also done Cherry and other roles, too, where it shows his range as an actor, which is really cool. It's hard to navigate. This industry is hard to navigate, especially right now. It's kind of on the down low right now. So it's just, where's this industry going and how can I go with it? So it's difficult.

SPEAKER_01:

So what do you think about technology and AI at the moment? Do you think it is a threat for actors?

SPEAKER_00:

No, I don't think so, no. People are all fearful of it and everything. And I just, it's like, I've seen stuff. I'm like, wow, that looks really good. But you can tell a lot, especially with an actor, if you're looking at their eyes, there's truth. And AI hasn't, they can't get eyes down. Like all right here tells the story and they just, they can't get it down. Like the images and everything look great, but I don't think it'll ever happen. Maybe like it'll be its own entity, but actors will, and this whole industry will still very much be alive, especially SAG fought for that to be out. unless you sign away your rights, which don't sign away your rights. Because I've seen, I've gotten contracts where it's AI is in the contract and I circle it and I say, please take this out. So you just got to read your contracts, people, read your contracts.

SPEAKER_01:

That was actually my question. Would you ever, next question, would you ever sell your AI avatar? No, never.

SPEAKER_00:

Because I'm just, why would they hire me? They can just digitally insert me.

SPEAKER_01:

What if you can

SPEAKER_00:

make more money? Unless it's like a video game.

SPEAKER_01:

Video

SPEAKER_00:

game's totally fine. Yeah, or

SPEAKER_01:

commercials maybe?

SPEAKER_00:

Video game. Still video game. Not a commercial, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

What video game would that be?

SPEAKER_00:

Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto, Madden, I don't know. Madden's all professional athletes and stuff. But yeah, just

SPEAKER_02:

any

SPEAKER_00:

video game would be cool to be in. Just to say I'm in a video game. I play myself in a video game. Kind of cool.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I can see you maybe in some...

SPEAKER_00:

A lot of big actors are doing video games and stuff now. So it's pretty cool to see their likeness in a video game. In a video game, that'd be cool. But for a movie or commercial or TV show, no.

SPEAKER_01:

No, yeah, you just want to be...

SPEAKER_00:

I want to be in it myself.

SPEAKER_01:

Authentic Chase, 100%. Yeah, I see. Do you think, or maybe pre-experience, in acting world, do they take you seriously? Coming from the modeling world? Do they think you can project the depth?

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, I haven't been on a big enough set for anyone to, I mean, everyone knows you got to start from somewhere. So I haven't, I don't know what people, how people take me or perceive me, but I've done a couple projects where I'm like, okay, those are pretty good. And I can see growth from when I started to now. So they're taking me seriously or not. I don't know. I can't help that, but just get better with my craft.

SPEAKER_01:

Are you comfortable doing castings for acting?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I used to not be. I used to be so embarrassed.

SPEAKER_02:

I was so

SPEAKER_00:

shy. But I'm not shy in person. I'm very personable. I'm very extroverted. I can talk to anybody on the street. I'll go and have a full-on conversation with somebody. But once that camera is in front of me, I just something, I don't know, it's weird. Or if I had to act a certain way, it was like weird. Until I went to acting class, and then I did improv class, and improv is really what...

SPEAKER_01:

The funny one, the stand-up?

SPEAKER_00:

Not improv comedy, just improv, where you're just acting out things, and you have to yes, and, and build a character. I

SPEAKER_01:

see.

SPEAKER_00:

And you can't say no, really, in improv, so you have to do it. And it really gets you out of your shell, and that really got me out of my shell. And then I had to do a show in front of...

SPEAKER_02:

people

SPEAKER_00:

so my family came out and saw me oh wow yeah so I was like okay this is my heart was beating so what did you

SPEAKER_01:

do to calm yourself down

SPEAKER_00:

anytime I go on stage like especially in class or if I'm about to do a scene I just sit there and count to 10 slowly yeah take 10 deep breaths count to 10 just okay let's go I don't know it works for me it calms me down

SPEAKER_01:

yeah Unless

SPEAKER_00:

I'm in a scene where I have to be hyperventilating, then I'll have... Have you

SPEAKER_01:

experienced that before?

SPEAKER_00:

I've had a scene where I have to come in and I'm like mad. So I'm like, I'll go take a lap outside and run and come in like all mad.

SPEAKER_01:

If I were director, slap in the face.

SPEAKER_00:

I've actually had somebody slap me in the face.

SPEAKER_01:

Really? Unexpectedly?

SPEAKER_00:

I don't like it. being slapped in the face i mean who likes being slapped in the face but i had i had one of my colleagues and co-star as i did i'm not i'm not i'm not getting there and he just slapped me in the face

SPEAKER_01:

oh you ask her

SPEAKER_00:

no him him yeah he was like what i was like well not full not hard but just just enough to piss me off

SPEAKER_01:

yeah

SPEAKER_00:

he was like what bam and i was

SPEAKER_01:

like i take that

SPEAKER_00:

back okay it got me there But I was like, I don't want to be slapped again. I was like, no more. I was like, not doing that again. Good thing he's my friend, so I didn't really

SPEAKER_01:

care. But imagine your reflex, you punch him back.

SPEAKER_00:

No, some people would, but no, I wouldn't do that. Especially since I asked him, I knew it was happening. But if it was out of nowhere, I'd be like, what

SPEAKER_01:

the heck?

SPEAKER_00:

I have a problem.

SPEAKER_01:

So let me ask you this. If you do get a role of your dream, but you need to do... like a very romantic scene. Would you be okay with that? Would your wife would be okay?

SPEAKER_00:

We have discussed that. Actually, yeah, we have, because roles will come up, like I'm on hold for a role right now that involves intimacy and stuff. And we always discuss, like I always let her know, hey, this involves intimacy. Like, are you okay with that? If not, then I'm not going to take the project. Because at the end of the day, like I said, family, husband, dad first. And I don't want that to supersede intimacy my life and my morals within my household. So we sit down and discuss, and then we've came down to it, where she's like, just let me know, but this is where I stand,

SPEAKER_02:

and

SPEAKER_00:

I want to know where you stand. And we both were kind of on the same page.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. But would she be okay? Let's say if there's the kiss in the scene. Because it's hard to get a movie where you don't have to do any of those things. So would she be okay if... Because she trusts you? Or you would have to reject any role that comes with a little bit of romanticization?

SPEAKER_00:

No, I've done roles that I've had to kiss girls and it's like simulated sex, but nothing, it doesn't go further than that because I have, like I said, I have a floor and I won't go lower than that. Unless she says I'm getting... I'm up for, it's like a big feature film that's going in the movies and I'm getting paid a lot of money for it and maybe up for an Oscar. Then she said, it's a separate discussion about what I have, but.

SPEAKER_01:

But still, you know.

SPEAKER_00:

But she's okay with it.

SPEAKER_01:

Imagine you prove your love in saying there's a hundred million dollar, but I choose you, honey. She

SPEAKER_00:

would rather take the$100 million. She was like, go for it. Go

SPEAKER_01:

get the money. Why are you even talking to me now? I like it. It's very business oriented. But I guess it all comes with trust, right? You guys both trust each other so much. She understands what's best for the family.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, she knows the industry. She knows that it's a job. But it's only funny when I had to have this conversation with my daughter.

SPEAKER_02:

my

SPEAKER_00:

11 year old she understands my 7 year old is asking questions now

SPEAKER_02:

because

SPEAKER_00:

I've shown her like some videos of me and then it like cut to me kissing a girl and she was like but isn't that cheating daddy

SPEAKER_02:

I'm

SPEAKER_00:

like um no because Kellyanne knows about it wife's name is Kellyanne and we've talked about it and it's for the film and it's a job and but she's like I don't understand I'm like That's okay. We'll get there. We'll get there. So she still asks questions and stuff, which is great. I want her to ask questions and question me. But I have to try to explain to her that it's not real. So I actually filmed a little short film and I let them help me film it so they can understand. And so now they kind of get it that it's not real. So when we're watching movies now, it's like, that's not real. And I'm like, well, okay, I don't want you to just fully cut out movies because you think it's fake the whole time. To

SPEAKER_01:

understand that there's a difference between

SPEAKER_00:

reality and pretending. But do I like having to do intimacy scenes? No, particularly not really. If I could avoid them, I would, but... No, I'm just joking. But I get my character cast and so does my wife. And we both understand that that's the roles that I would be getting until I can fully establish myself and I can start saying no to projects.

SPEAKER_01:

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_00:

Kind of got to work with what I have.

SPEAKER_01:

So let me ask you this. If your wife was offered a hundred million or whatever big amount to do a full intimacy scene, would you be okay with that for the family? Eh. yeah

SPEAKER_00:

i would

SPEAKER_01:

you would

SPEAKER_00:

because she would be the same with me

SPEAKER_01:

the same with you okay

SPEAKER_00:

but i watch it no just like she doesn't watch mine

SPEAKER_01:

okay oh you don't watch that part then let's

SPEAKER_00:

i wouldn't watch her thing i wouldn't want to

SPEAKER_01:

really no

SPEAKER_00:

not really i don't want to watch that

SPEAKER_01:

so you're just gonna fast forward real quick

SPEAKER_00:

uh probably

SPEAKER_01:

because you're gonna watch the film right

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I'd watch the film, but I get it. I'm like, okay, you guys hooked up. All right, fast forward. And she does the same thing with my intimacy scene. She skips him, which is fair. She doesn't want to watch it, but she understands.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, fair enough, fair enough. Well, I'm really glad that you are at this level that you both guys have so much understanding for each other, but I also... do what's the best for the family, right? You're not kind of like square-minded.

SPEAKER_00:

It's always what's best for the family. And is this going to help us as a family or is this going to destroy us as a family? So everything I do, everything I choose to do, especially in this industry, I won't let it destroy my family because that's me before anything else. Dad, husband, before anything else.

SPEAKER_01:

It always comes first. Always first. So how do you see your daughters like 20 years from now?

SPEAKER_00:

Graduated college, probably one of them might be getting married 20 years. So yeah, 30, his will be 31 in 20 years. So married husband, maybe she has a kid on the way, very successful for what she wants to do. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Can you imagine yourself as a grandfather?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Like if she, if she, whoa, it's crazy. And I was told this the other day was that if she had a, has a kid when I had her, I can be a grandpa at 40.

SPEAKER_01:

Wow. Oh my God. This is insane.

SPEAKER_00:

I was like, dang,

SPEAKER_01:

this is being

SPEAKER_00:

40.

SPEAKER_01:

This is insane.

SPEAKER_00:

Crazy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

How old were you when you had your first kid?

SPEAKER_00:

I was 19. Well, I, I turned 20 and then two weeks later she was born.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

So she's 20. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

If you had a chance in 10 years. If you had a chance to change it, would you focus on your career? And let's say if you had a chance to become extremely successful and famous and then have your family, would you go back and change it? So then now you can have a family and...

SPEAKER_00:

No.

SPEAKER_01:

No?

SPEAKER_00:

I am already extremely successful. Being a dad and being a husband. Everything else is just secondary. Everyone thrives and wants what we have. So why would I change anything?

SPEAKER_01:

Great answer.

SPEAKER_00:

Money is just a thing. It'll come and go. But family and time, it won't. It's there.

SPEAKER_01:

So for guys who your age are watching this right now and they don't know if they want to have a family or they're still debating and focusing on their career, is there any advice you can give to them? I

SPEAKER_00:

mean, I do tell people if you don't feel ready, then wait i didn't have that option mine was just this is what's happening so if you do get into that situation you just gotta step up because you have a little person who's looking to you for help and guidance in this world and if you're not there who knows what's going to steer them in the right or wrong direction so i just i stepped up and i wanted to be there as a as a father and a as a man figure for all of my kids and make sure that they're steered into the right direction or as best as I can steer them until they are old enough to make their own decisions. But I hope that when they're old enough, they still want to come to me for advice and guidance. So everyone's life is different. Some people love what they do and that's all great. So when that time comes for that person, they just have to under, they have to realize that this is what they really want. And if it is, then they need to step up.

SPEAKER_01:

I love that. Well, I think on this positive note, I would like to wrap up our conversation. It was a pleasure talking to you. It was a pleasure. Thank you for sharing. Of course. Anytime. Thank you for sharing and thank you for being on The Basic Show. Thank you, Chase. Thank you for having me. I appreciate you. Thank you. Bye. Bye.

SPEAKER_02:

Bye.

UNKNOWN:

Bye.