WHO REMEMBERS? The UK Nostalgia Podcast
A nostalgia trip for anyone in the UK who grew up on dial-up Internet, Findus Crispy Pancakes, and playground rumours that couldn’t be fact-checked online. We’re not historians — we don’t do dates, and we barely do facts — but science says reminiscing gives your brain a dopamine hit, so think of us as your weekly dose of hazy memories, childhood flashbacks, and confidently misremembered events.
Expect frequent arguments about who remembers things properly as we rummage through the UK’s collective memory box.
WHO REMEMBERS? The UK Nostalgia Podcast
Who Remembers........Christmas Through The Eyes of a Child?
The first spark wasn’t the tree or the lights—it was the Argos catalogue hitting the table and turning hopes into a plan. We tap into the warm rush of childhood Christmas in the UK, remembering the magic made from small rituals: stockings by the radiator, a bitten carrot on a tray, and parents pulling off midnight engineering to assemble bikes and bunk beds without a squeak. It’s a love letter to the belief we chose to hold, even when the seams showed.
We look at how culture framed the day: the TV Times circled in pen, a nation watching the same specials, and those giddy chart battles where Mr Blobby somehow edged out Take That and E17 wore the crown over Oasis and Mariah. There’s affectionate snark for modern schedules, gentle digs at panto, and stories of carol services that still make the season feel communal. And then the presents—Mr Frosty envy, Paul Daniels magic sets, Screwball Scramble, the Yamaha or Casio keyboard that promised instant talent, and the consoles that redrew the living room. The bike reveal. The power of “this is mine” at 6 a.m.
Christmas Day is joy and chaos: rules about opening small to big, stockings first, and a dinner plate debate that will never end—turkey versus beef, sprouts for honour, Yorkshire puddings for everyone, and absolutely, yes, gravy. We talk about the afternoon lull, the quiet reset, and why Boxing Day might secretly be better for actually enjoying what you got—leftovers, football, and the calm to play without interruption. Then comes the limbo week and the truth we eventually learn: the magic returns when you make it for someone else.
Press play for laughter, shared memories, and a reminder that the best part of Christmas isn’t the perfect logic; it’s the effort, the surprise, and the moment a child believes. If this brought back a memory, share it with a friend, subscribe for more nostalgia, and leave us a review to help others find the show.
Hello and welcome to the podcast Who Remembers? This is the UK Nostalgia-based podcast. It's a festive episode, and in this one we're asking who remembers Christmas through the eyes of a child?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, incredible title.
SPEAKER_00:We have the children in this, by the way. We're not we're not trying to see this through a a modern child's eyes, although I have got kids, so we could we may do a bit of that at the end, but we're we're we're going back, aren't we? We're putting it in the back.
SPEAKER_01:We're going back taking back. That's what it is. Yeah, yeah, through the eyes of a child. Uh have you ever read the future song Christmas were better than the uh better in the eighties? Er I probably sent them that many songs, but I don't remember it. Christmas was better. Imagine it. Christmas was better in the 80s. It was better in the 1980s, and I think that's sort of the era that we're probably gonna most touch on here.
SPEAKER_00:Christmas through the eyes of the child.
SPEAKER_01:Through the eyes of a child at the Christmas, child, Christmas time. Yeah, they have got a Christmas album out, actually. It's brilliant.
SPEAKER_00:If they want that, by the way, if they want that as like a different take on it, you can have it.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I'm gonna say to you now, um, they do the 12 days of Christmas. Can you predict how that goes?
SPEAKER_00:Uh yeah, more just sort of shouty like on the first day of Christmas! And they changed what the things are, or are they the same things?
SPEAKER_01:Five golden ring. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:A new keyboard and a tambourine.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, stuff like that. But they they do a really good uh wonderful Christmas time actually, on the McCartney one. They do it a cappella. Oh, they don't do that because that's what hands are lost. Um, how's he going on? Oh oh oh oh oh oh the wonderful Christmas time. Anyway, we're gonna take you back to that magical time when Christmas was the best time.
SPEAKER_00:Well, it was our magical time. This is the thing, isn't it? What we're sort of saying is I think there's a period of your life where the Christmas magic is at its peak. We're we're gonna try and go back to that in our own memories.
SPEAKER_01:It was the best time, best time to be a kid, undoubtedly, Christmas. It was by far the most exciting. What were the build-up life for you? When did it when did it get going for you?
SPEAKER_00:I mean, obviously, you didn't have any of this sort of stuff in the shops in October or January or November or whenever it is these days. So so I suppose December was the trigger, that's when schools started doing all the nativity stuff that like you got your advent calendar. We we were never one for putting a tree up early, so we never got the decorations up until the 12th, I think it is. Did you have cards on wall? Cards on your wall. Yeah, sometimes stuck on the back of doors, sometimes like a string with them on across the room.
SPEAKER_01:Um yeah, I I mate Brendan, we mentioned him before in here. I once went to his house in like April and he saw all his cards on just because he couldn't have to take them down, all his Christmas cards. Were you there for that? Ridiculous. Um I'm not sure it sounds I've I've either was there or I've I've certainly certainly heard of it. I've certainly heard of it. Um but I think like for me it all started, but um I don't know for you the same, you'd either get the Argos catalogue or your mum. Ah no, that's a good shout. Yeah, the Argos catalogue.
SPEAKER_00:You know what? That's that's probably that it's possible that came as like pre-advent can as well. I think you're right.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I think end of November your mum might have something what you want Father Christmas to get you or whatever.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, you were right on your list end of November. No, I think you're right. I think think Argos could be the trigger. Yeah, and I didn't know. But like did when August came around like so did when your mum took you to Argos or whatever to look at catalogue, did you think you were ordering it for did like did what was like August the thing you missed there is the whole point of the August catalogue is my mum never took me to Argos to look at the catalogue. I always brought it up. That's an excellent point, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So the August catalogue.
SPEAKER_00:And I think our business model would have failed if that was if you had to go in there to review the magazine.
SPEAKER_01:Well, like would that like so as a child, if you believed in Santa and your mum said, right, here's the August catalogue. Was that like from Lapland? Did we think? Did we think that had come straight from Santa's?
SPEAKER_00:See, I've got two kids now, 12 and 9. And I I'm sort of seeing the the cogs starting to whirr as to the things that don't make sense, the things that they're willing to let go. That climb though, just one more thing, hang on. Yeah, but that that was certainly I I remember it being a confusing time like that. Obviously, I well the kids shouldn't and can't listen to this because it's it's I take the box to say it's explicit. We can't normally sexually normally, but it can be explicit. So I take the box anyway. But yeah, it it's a tough time because there's certain things that we try and do. So Jody's very good at going through the presents and taking all the tags off. But obviously, that's not great for some people because some people want them to know that they got them that thing and spent a fair bit of money on something. This is we take all the tags off and it all comes from Santa.
SPEAKER_01:It's just so annoying.
SPEAKER_00:So, like, but then there's still this sort of thing of that like my mama, Jody's mama. Somebody might say, Oh, did they enjoy that thing that got them? And we sort of say, Oh yeah, thanks for getting Santa to give them that. Oh, it's not a clean break, is it? It doesn't work, right?
SPEAKER_01:I bought your kids some stuff, I think, when they were first born, and I'd like them to know that it were me who paid my hard-earned money buying that rather than some big fat break in Lapland who's just it is bad though for parents and stuff, innit? Really?
SPEAKER_00:I don't know if like if they would have said like little sort of toddler voices. What did Uncle Andrew get anything? I said no, he's drank his wages this year. This has all come from Sandra.
SPEAKER_01:Once again, he's drank his wages. But no, I I do think like I mean I understand like I don't know, I don't know where it I like Santa Claus and that that idea that he buys all the presents and stuff. I just think it's so wrong.
SPEAKER_00:I never got as well. I think it made perfect sense when toys were wooden and had rubber bands and stuff. As soon as you start bringing in like, and obviously we would have sort of I I wouldn't say the first generation, probably like would we be? Because like, even though I was sort of Atari and Commodore, and there was this sort of spectrum generation before, but I don't know if they're just the early part of our generation, I'm not sure. But we we were certainly the ones who had to sort of somehow justify how Santa and Lapline could get you this kind of computer game that was it were good at everything, weren't they?
SPEAKER_01:If you think about it, it were an amazing toy maker, he were a proper like computer expert. Might would this man have been running the world like single-handedly, wouldn't he just be coming out of Christmas?
SPEAKER_00:He can do anything. It's like sort of modern Elon Musk, isn't it? Like that Santa, just sort of making electric cars and space rockets and stuff.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it could do anything though, can't it? Like it gets like I don't know if you want a CD, he's got a lot of things.
SPEAKER_00:It could get your branded stuff, it could get your stuff for logos on, like it did never worried about sort of trademarks or copyright, did it?
SPEAKER_01:No, no, no, just make some. Yeah, that's a good point, though. But good if you're oh so hang on a minute. How is he getting away with using Levi's uh yeah?
SPEAKER_00:This says authentic. So how on earth have his elves made this? I mean, we once tried to write sitcom about his elves and stuff, like uh you got so deep into this I had to walk away. Another world, yeah, that I was trying to write. I was trying to create like a language for the elves and like a backstory and stuff, but I quite like the idea that he was kind of running a sweatshop as well. That like yeah, they'd not really figured out that actually this is pretty poor, this this life that we have here, trying to copy all these sort of fantastical designs.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, it was a really good idea from you, but it genuinely became Lord of Rings. There were like so many backstories and like sort of I had different races of elves, yeah. I had different sort of different dimensions and things like that, and like I don't know, it was just bizarre.
SPEAKER_00:Like how many it just completely ran away from me. Yeah, and then I was trying to tie it all back together with some logic. So I was thinking, yeah, but how could this work? And you kind of said, Yeah, but it don't need to, that's the point. Like, and I was saying, Yeah, but how if somebody wanted to really rip it apart, how could we explain how that happens? And I think uh you just lost interest, didn't you?
SPEAKER_01:I lost interest, yeah. I lost interest in that. But before all the toys and stuff, though, obviously when we were younger, I don't think this were a massive thing when we were younger, but I knew I know you wanted to touch on Christmas movies and stuff. When the TV Times and Radio Times listings came out. I don't know if you've seen it this year, BBC, and it's not just like Christmas was better in the 80s from us, but it's appalling the TV this year, and it was last year. Obviously, we did an episode for Living with Mailley podcast where we talked about the we we compared 1993, I think it was, up against last year's TV schedule, and that was shocking as well.
SPEAKER_00:The format's changed, hasn't it? It it doesn't work anymore where they they hold back the sort of big hits for the terrestrial TV that particularly when you're younger, you might not have been to cinema and seen them. So it was kind of like you were getting a wave of new things, yeah. And that that just feels like it's gone. I mean, you you're gonna get probably uh Julia Donaldson animation. I mean, you don't even really get the sitcom specials. I think Mrs. Brown's boys. Mrs. Brown's boy, I think they're doing a one-run or a prerun or something. I mean and and I know like it gets sick for not being very good, but it's genuinely not very good, is it? Like it's not very good. Like I don't mean that in like uh casting a rye eye over, yeah, but come on, who's Mrs. Brown's boys? For I just mean I sometimes watch it, I I keep trying and giving it a go, and it it's alright, it's just not very good.
SPEAKER_01:No, no, and obviously, like the big thing, obviously, uh around Christmas or the the number one Netflix thing will be Ricky Gervais, won't it, with his uh what is it, Mortality? Is that his last one? I think I can't remember what this one's called.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, he's he's coming out on the 30th, is it, this year?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so that's almost like the coming uh Christmas uh tradition where he'll release something uh he says things you can't say right at the end of the year, doesn't it?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, he's brave, like and he'll say stuff that you can't say. And and you can't say it all year, but somehow on that on that day he says it, and it's alright, even though he can't say it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, and uh he can't say it, and then people will say, It's amazing that he can say that because you can't say that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and he'll say, I love this because he's saying the things you can't say.
SPEAKER_01:You just can't say it, and it's like, Oh, I I like as well when they say it's upsetting all the right people, and then no one's really upset of other people might say it's a bitch.
SPEAKER_00:It's like highest viewing figures ever, and like, but yeah, it's it's definitely upsetting everyone except that one person's it's upsetting everyone except me.
SPEAKER_01:This this is why I'm imagining like thinking you're educating your favourite comedian being Ricky Gervais, who's the most popular comedian in the world. Ridiculous, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Um I think you're right though, because I can't tell you, and this was one of the good things about Christmas is like sort of saying to family and friends, are you watching this? You'd all be watching the same thing at the same time. You've got to watch the Royal Family Christmas special, or you're gonna watch the I don't know, I can't think of sort of great. Well the office, obviously, if we're talking education, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:The office had a great Christmas special, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Uh sorry, I'm just need to cough. I'm just gonna pause my microphone. Two weeks I've had this cough. Two weeks.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, two weeks, man and boy. Uh at least you've like politely uh stepped away from the microphone. Obviously, this will become a couple of days before Christmas. I'm I'm sort of getting a bit of a cold. That's that's one of your traditions, actually, Christmas, isn't it? Getting a cold of some sort. So um you've been everybody saying there's loads of it this time of year, isn't there? Yeah, I don't actually, because I don't think we've got we're recording this the week before, as usual. Uh yeah, I don't think we've got the episode out as we normally do on a Tuesday for the day.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, I've despite being actually on holiday. But I was gonna tell you it's a good reason. I've just a couple of things at work, and I've had to I've been quite busy even though I'm on I'm on holiday today.
SPEAKER_01:I've had to do some but I'm not gonna bring it up for that. I'm bringing it up because it's a good reason because it's something else I wanted to come on to. The reason you couldn't get it out later earlier on, though, is because you've actually been Carol singing today, aren't you? Um yeah, I mean I'm not actually being well that's what you told me, unless that was just an excuse. Can't get it out of my carol singing. I'd be to watch my daughter Carol singing. I thought you were doing a bit of ding-dong merling on heart. I bet you couldn't shut your mouth when you were there. I bet you were fallowing the lyrics out.
SPEAKER_00:No, I was singing along a little bit on my own. In the festive spirit, I like to go and stand right at the back up some steps on my own. What's your favourite carol? Um I like uh I mean they didn't do any of these, they did the more sort of jolly hits, but I like the sort of more um go on is it the carol of the bells?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, Silent Bambi.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, that's a good one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um the other one that I like is the Tilly actually uh did a solo in this last year. Um carrying on the family tradition of uh belting out the hits. Um I can't think what it is. Um terrible remembering it was last year. Last year. Who remembers last year?
SPEAKER_01:Um, don't matter. It might come to me later. Forget about it. Um have you been to any pantomimes this year? Because that's another thing, obviously, from Christmas.
SPEAKER_00:No, Jody went with the kids and her dad and her auntie. Um, and we kind of sort of said, Well, that's a car full. Instead of two cars, they can go. Um and then they went on a tram anyway, so I could have gone. I don't mind this line. Who worries?
SPEAKER_01:Obviously, it's like pantomimes, I think it's looked down upon, like in other compared to other areas of the arts and stuff, because it's like there's a stigma, isn't it? It's like a less serious or professional work. But I saw a poster of Aladdin about 20 years ago that someone's, I think it was Alec who sent me this. Who um yeah, he uh it was a uh a panto about Aladdin that had Les Dennis, Chris Accabuse, and the White Power Ranger, and he was billed as the White Power Ranger. That was like the thing.
SPEAKER_00:I think you'd have to though, wouldn't you? The White Power Ranger. But what else? Do you know his name? No, but if you can't. Chris Acabusi is not a character. No, but he's he's well known. If it just said uh I don't know, Mike Thompson, you would you wouldn't know who that was, would you?
SPEAKER_01:I suppose not, but the white power he's not playing the we maybe he did play the white Power Ranger.
SPEAKER_00:Um Power Rangers.
SPEAKER_01:If you if I give you I'm sort of putting you on the spot here, because there's one that's immediately come to my mind. If I what what person do you associate most with Panto? Um Christopher Biggins, I would say. Yeah, yeah, that's all I was thinking of. Christopher Biggins, big one. Frank Bruno, I think, did him for a while. Sue Pallard? Yeah, I don't know. She might have never been in one.
SPEAKER_00:John Virgo, did John Virgo do Panto?
SPEAKER_01:Oh yeah, he did one. We already did fucking didn't he do Babes in the Wood or whatever it were called with Chris with Chris I could say with Jim Jim Davidson.
SPEAKER_00:Uh yeah, that might be what I'm thinking of. Yeah, did Jim Davidson did like it? Dick Turpin. There was some brilliant one. It was like a slightly blue one, weren't it? That Jim Davidson did, I think.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We should cover that one day. Crank is there another one actually.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I mean, yeah, you could there's there's like the the Sheffield one used to be Bobby Nutt. I don't know if you when you were at school, did you ever used to go and watch Pantomime with Bobby Nutt in it?
SPEAKER_01:I don't remember ever watching a pantomime, but I believe I will have. I'd I've never a big fan of pantomimes. I don't really they just they just they're just shit, aren't they?
SPEAKER_00:I know what you mean. We we went through a phase of taking the kids to Alton Towers um at Christmas. They did like uh Santa's sleepover, you get a day in the park, you go and see Santa, there's only a bit of it open. I would recommend it for younger kids, although it's very expensive. Once they get past a certain age, yeah, there's not that much there for them. But what about Christmas lights? Did you ever do that as a kid? Like that was. Sorry, just what I was gonna say though about what they did that I liked was so on the first night, they put a pantomime on, but it was like a lot of they'd obviously spent some money on it. It was like a lot of sort of cabarets, you know, from cruise ships and because it wasn't their season. So they actually got really talented singers and people on, and and like and there was a bar as well.
SPEAKER_01:So that that's that's yeah, that's that yeah, that that is always good to be fair. Yeah, Christmas lights, did you ever get involved? I don't think I ever actually went to watch the Christmas lights being switched on.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it's I've been to watch them in Drumfield a few times. We still have that sort of little town feel where they go and do the lights. The kids like that every year.
SPEAKER_01:Um I I did a little bit of done no research for this, as you can probably tell, but because we just wanted to be pure vibes, but I did do a little bit of research into this. Sheffield had its fair share of celebrities uh switching on the lights. 1996 at Meadow Hall. We had Mr. Frank Bruno, the aforementioned Frank Bruno. I don't think I went to see it, but yeah, I won't I don't mind about Frank Bruno. See if any of these would like to take your 2001 Dale Winton.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, if I was in the area.
SPEAKER_01:2007 Marlon from Emmerdale.
SPEAKER_00:Not quite Sujan. No. 2013 H from Steps Um I prefer it if you call him by his proper name, actually.
SPEAKER_01:Well, 2014 was uh another boy by my member, Simon Webb.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, don't get me wrong, I like Blue in the Day, but 2014, what were they installed at the first one?
SPEAKER_01:It gets worse because the last well, 2000 these people now I've never heard of, but that's just me being old. 2016 was the last one that I've proper remember. Like the sorry, the Meadow or Sheffield? Sheffield, Meadow, Crystal Peaks, all all all the different ones. Uh this one in town, this one, and it with David Platt from Coronation Street.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I was uh what's my David Platt anecdote? I once saw him.
SPEAKER_01:You shout Platty at him, I said.
SPEAKER_00:I said uh Platt Platty Boy and he latted up to me like part annoyed, part confused.
SPEAKER_01:And I completely got it. He must have got it before. I'm sorry if they would have got up to him, but he's only played one character in his entire career. Platty boy though. I don't I don't know, I don't know whether that that was new to him or what. I don't know. It threw it at face. Look, I'm an actor, I am not Ian Beale. You can't get offended by that if you've only ever played Ian Beal.
SPEAKER_00:I know to be fair, I didn't take up his time and ask for a picture or I just sort of acknowledged that I knew who he was. If anything, it should have been. If you saw Ian Beal, would you shout Beal the squeal?
SPEAKER_01:I think you'd have to, wouldn't you? It'd be hard not to, wouldn't it? It's what I'll be soap characters, because you see him that often, they do become typecast more than anyone. That might be an episode we have to do, actually. Typecast uh self-packed as well.
SPEAKER_00:I think it's just in that moment, because like there when you said that I saw him, I might say squeal-o to him, but that yeah again, it might not make sense to him. No afterwards he'll kick himself.
SPEAKER_01:Well, obviously, last week we talked well the week before we talked about Grant, Grant Mitchell. Um, and yeah, obviously you would see him and you'd and you'd probably say Grant too. I think you would think of him as Grant Mitchell before Ross Kemp, and I think it's what's he called. It's called Phil Mitchell's known as Phil Mitchell before Stephen McFadden, for instance. Yeah, definitely, yeah. Who's play who plays Steve MacDonald? I I'm sure it is just Steve MacDonald.
SPEAKER_00:That's a great one. I don't yeah. I would believe it is Steve MacDonald, but I d I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:No idea. Jack Duckworth, he could be Jack Duckworth. All these people. Anyway, sorry.
SPEAKER_00:What is it?
SPEAKER_01:Another thing that were uh really big, um and it's not anymore because I I personally think Lad Baby ruined this, but Christmas number ones were huge. Remember all the the hype about sort of what's gonna be number one? There were all these battles, weren't they? And then X Factor sort of ruined it by getting to number one every week. Apart from that, everything's a bit like films, innit?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that it's another tradition that just been ruined. And that was probably bigger before our time. But certainly we we enjoyed uh the tail end of it. And I think it was it. You were waiting to watch Christmas Top of the Pop to see who the Christmas number one was.
SPEAKER_01:It were a massive thing. It was like a bit like the world title fight, like in boxing. It was like if you got the Christmas number one, that was like sort of the best thing you could possibly do in the charts.
SPEAKER_00:Well, the the best moment as well was, and this out it sounds so obvious, but you're waiting to find out what the Christmas number two is, because then you knew what the number one was gonna be. And if it was what you wanted, you'd be like, yes, like punching the air. Like, I knew it, I knew it. It's gonna be uh take that, not take that, he's 17.
SPEAKER_01:Well, that's funny enough, there's the three great races I thought in the 90s 93, 94, 95, 93. We had take that's babe against Mr. Blobbe, and everyone thought take that'll piss it. But Edmonds and Blobbe, I don't think Edmonds had anything to do with it. I'm sure he'll claim credit, but uh yeah, Mr. Blobby beat uh Babe, I'd take that in 1993. 1994, isn't it? Babe's a weak song to go up against it, can't it? It's Mark Owen as well, isn't it? You're gonna take take on Edmonds. You've got to Mark Owen cannot take on Edmonds alone.
SPEAKER_00:No big or go home.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you've got to have Williams or Barlow going up against Edmonds. Um this is a brilliant top three, 1994. Number three, whatever by Oasis. Number two, All I Want for Christmas is you by the late great Mariah Carey. And number one, Stay Another Day by E17.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, great title race, that one, wasn't it? Um I mean, whatever's the best song, it's just not a Christmas song.
SPEAKER_01:No, it's mad that All I Want for Christmas didn't get to number one, but then again, last Christmas never got to number one until recently. Because now it's all shitting it at the charts.
SPEAKER_00:Do you think All I Want for Christmas? I don't know if I've read this, or I don't know if if I'm remembering something or pure speculation. Is that the highest earning Christmas song? Seems to be on all the time now.
SPEAKER_01:It's definitely Mariah Carey's highest earning song, that is a fact, and she's had a lot of hits, obviously. Mariah, the late great Mariah. And she obviously, yeah, this this this I believe I'm right in saying this is uh I'm saying this on a whim. I think I've read this that All Over Christmas has sold more records or more, you know, more units than all of her other singles put together.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah, I I would absolutely believe that, yeah. Like you say, she's by the way, that's not downplaying a career, she's had some hates. I just think this blows everything away.
SPEAKER_01:Uh, and then 1995, uh, Wonder Wall by Mike Flowers, um Wonder Wall by Oasis were flying around then. You had Three as a Bird by the Beatles, Made in Heaven by Queen, so a lot of comeback singles. But shout out to Mr. Glacier and Andes. It was uh his man, MJ, Michael Jackson with Earth Song. You're fan of Earth Song.
SPEAKER_00:I don't love it. He's he's done better stuff. It's not bad. It's not bad. I think out of that selection, probably would accept that's that's the best.
SPEAKER_01:What about beans? I don't know where we're singing. Um yeah, so the music thing was really good, but I think as a like a as a as a younger child, I'll be doing this from the eyes of a child. It was exciting, the Christian.
SPEAKER_00:Just wherever he was singing, by the way, it was not what about beans? I I don't know what it was, but it wasn't.
SPEAKER_01:What about oh sun beans were it? Sunbeams. No, I wouldn't have thought so, no.
SPEAKER_00:What about dogs? Say it like that anyway, dogs. Tell her when she was little on a very slight tangent there, you think it was uh um driving home for Christmas, driving like a dog. She used to sing as well. I don't know whether that that bit she genuinely believed, but then I don't know if she added this bit on when she realized I found it funny, but she does it without trying to be funny, even when she's just singing along. She'll say, Uh, I take a driver, take a look at the driver next to me. He's just a dog.
SPEAKER_01:He's just a dog. You like uh booblays. Uh I can't listen to um rocking around the Christmas tree without thinking of your booblay version that we did on Maidley, which was rocking around the old Christmas tree.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, look at the old edition of like yeah, it's it's quite hard to do, but if you get in a zone, you can do it. Rocking around. Oh, it's rocking that Christmas tree is rocking around.
SPEAKER_01:Like it's just sort of like jingle bells, jingle jangle bells. Like, do you know what I mean? They'll just put something else.
SPEAKER_00:Jingle all that way to town, jingle him down, jingle all the way the way now. Yeah, it's a skill.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I mean, but but I I think the obviously Christmas begins like two weeks you start getting excited, you split up from school about three or four days before. Christmas Eve is one of what as a kid is one of the most I think it's one of the most horrible nights ever.
SPEAKER_00:I don't know what age you'd be. I don't know if you'd be sort of eight, seven, maybe. When you still you fully believe, you're fully involved in the magic, but you kind of know enough now to know what's coming. You know you're gonna get a big pile of presents, and it's so overwhelming, isn't it? Like I just remember it's sort of being about six o'clock. We used to go round to my grandma's the the grown-ups would be enjoying it because it we get taxis back, they'd have a couple of drinks, there'd be sort of music on, and it it was like the old Christmas tree. Had the Christmas party hop hip hop, but yeah, do you need a drink?
SPEAKER_01:I I don't know about you because I could this this honestly, I get bad insomnia now, especially if I'm like doing something the day before. I'm really the saviours day. Uh I I I think, yeah, even on the well, I think that's where it started, the saviours day, because I was that excited. I remember like squeezing my eyes shut. Like I couldn't. I'm thinking, why I can't I can't I just can't now. I just think obviously well, obviously now I'm an adult, so I won't be like man if I were that excited about Christmas now. Um couldn't sleep night before. Um I'd just like you'd read a book or something, but then all you wanted, you were trying so hard to get to sleep because you wanted the day to come back. You couldn't wait for like the day after.
SPEAKER_00:It's the most pissed up. Yeah, it's it's the most exhilarated. I I think you can be. Obviously, you get like pre-holiday, you as a kid, you were really excited. Pre-birthday, you're excited. Yeah, I mean, there's a there's other things, sort of certain school trips you're really looking forward to. But yeah, this is that times 100, isn't it?
SPEAKER_01:This this is like this is the biggest you'll ever this just seriously, this is the biggest excitement you will ever experience in life, genuinely, because there's nothing, there's no worries, you've got nothing. So, like if you're going away and you're really looking forward to it, you've still got a bit, oh, I better check that before I go, or you know, I've got to do that. Uh there's still a few worries in there. Nothing here, you've got no responsibilities whatsoever. All you're doing is waiting for the big guy to come down the chimney.
SPEAKER_00:Do you remember as well, like genuinely sort of listening to see if you could hear his L's or seeing if thinking like that?
SPEAKER_01:I used to think I could hear him. I like that with Togan. You like doing the little I'm doing the earshot now, you like he used to do it. Ring. I used to do that, like listening for the like the ding ding-ding. That's not I don't know about that word. Did he ring bells? Santa. Um sleigh bells, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:There's bells on the side.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah, of course he did. Sleigh bells, oh you're riding right and round and round. Um but yeah, are you do you used to leave mince pies out?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, it was always a mince pie. It was either a brandy or a sherry. Um and a carrot. Although what what we do now is I never liked even as a kid that just leaving a carrot for Rudolph. So we leave like a bag of carrots so they can all have some. And what'd you do with them in reality? I put them back in the fridge, I take one, bite like a big chunk out of it, and leave that down on the tray. That's what we used to do. Crumble up some mince pie crumbs, put the mince pie in the bin, and I drink the brandy or sherry. My dad ate them used to eat the mince pies full. Like, so there'd be no crumbs or anything. I mean, I've actually started to suggest trying to sort of make it their idea that Santa might like cookies for a change, because I quite like cookies. So really if you ain't like, I'll tell you what he would love. A whisker.
SPEAKER_01:It absolutely bloody love a joke. Do you know what?
SPEAKER_00:Can I fosters in a kebab?
SPEAKER_01:I'll tell you what, he'd bloody love that. Amazing that if kebab's that mum, mum, we've got to get kebab out. Why's kab's he liked kebabs?
SPEAKER_00:Another tangent. I used to work with a guy who every two weeks used to get a full kebab from a kebab shop with all the sauces on, so chili sauce, garlic mayo, and whatever the other one was. The other one. He'd got two of those, one for him and one for his greyhound. And they've obviously used to eat them all.
SPEAKER_01:Did you see Mike Porcupine today talking about?
SPEAKER_00:Do you know what I think that's shocking that a greyhound used to eat a full kebab? You don't seem phased by that. No, no, no.
SPEAKER_01:I'm gonna tell you something here what Mike Parry was saying, he's not the same, it's not the same thing. Mike Porky Parry today was furious on the Jeremy Vine show because they were talking about how some people cook full Sunday roads. Yeah, Christmas dinners for their uh for the dog. And he was saying they should he was saying it's confusing for him, it's like bad for the mental health, and that they should be basically these people should have the dogs taken off them if they cook them for full. He says they don't know what day it is, he's furious about yeah if you if you're cooking them their individual meal, what does it say?
SPEAKER_00:Something like it's unacceptable or something, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:It says something like they need taken off them. Uh it's it's it's unacceptable.
SPEAKER_00:But then what's funny is she at the end says, Have you got a dog mic? And he goes, No, right, let's talk to the dog owner then. It's like he's giving his full working examples from his journal.
SPEAKER_01:I love the idea though, he's not he's not worried that the dog might be too full or the dog might be sick if cook it a full, you know, a full Christmas dinner. He's worried that they'll get confused because they don't know what day it is. Dog it, what what's got what what's going on here? Really panicky, don't for me. For me, you've got some pigs in blankets and shit like that. They'd love all that.
SPEAKER_00:Safi has uh our dog has a Christmas dinner. Um I mean I'd say it's not got all of it on. I think it doesn't have any stuff in because that's got onion in it. I don't have any stuff in it. To be honest, me and Safi probably have the same Christmas dinner. You look at front floor as well, like from it with share a bowl, so yeah.
SPEAKER_01:It's share a bowl from floor. Uh do you leave stockings out by the way, as well?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. And to be fair, I mean that that's something that I I mean there's that famous sort of I think it's a picture of Stephen Gerard sat in a caravan in his shorts, and he looks slightly confused. And it's title something like Dad's on Christmas Day, watching the kids open the presents, having no idea what's in there.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Um, we're a little bit like that. Jody buys loads of little bits and pieces for stockings and yeah, a nice tradition. Because I used to love that, like the little gadgets and things that I got in my store. Well, that's better acting though.
SPEAKER_01:If you're thinking Santa's brought her, you because you don't know, obviously.
SPEAKER_00:I'm clueless, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so you're going, oh, oh, that's amazing.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, there's some things I'm saying, oh that's that's good. I'd like to have a go at night, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, whereas like Jodie knows what's coming, so she's gotta she's a good actress. You've got to be a good actor, I think.
SPEAKER_00:No, I can tell she's I I can really see through it. No Danny Dyer. Uh no.
SPEAKER_01:No, no. Um, but then if you finally do get to sleep, and I think I used to have about two or three hours sleep, i it the big day comes, the big day. Do you think that's true though?
SPEAKER_00:Because I I'm sort of again thinking of my kids. Like, I remember thinking, God, I've only had one or two hours' sleep. But actually, that you know, even when they have a late night, they're asleep say around midnight, and they wake up at half six or seven, maybe. It's not like they've had an hour's sleep. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know if I don't know if I remember this. Did you wait yourself? Did your mum wake you up or were you all waking your mum up saying, Come on, he's been I think as a kid I was up very, very early.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And then as a dog starts to fade, I used to have to be sort of really woken up and I used to think, Well, it's fine, I can open them in a bit, it don't make any difference. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But I remember like when I believed uh in Santa, I I don't yeah, my mum, because my mom said they were like my mum and dad'd say, You can't go downstairs before we go in um before we get up. Like 'cause I obviously as a kid, you you're you you sort of you might sneak downstairs, might you? Do you know what I mean? Before sort of if you're up at 4am at the same time.
SPEAKER_00:To be honest, I'll I'll bad for stuff like that. Like I remember one year. Can't wear it. I was just remembering going downstairs saying I got a headache or something, and I and it was in full flow, like because there used to be like paper chains put up by Father Christmas and stuff, and they were making them, and like they were sort of wrapping paper on the tables and stuff, and I thought, I I can see what's going on here. I can see through that. Yeah, you're not fooling me, you're not fooling anyone. I told you that I think one of my sort of early sort of pessimistic ways of ruining some of these things for myself is I was only young and I knocked my tooth out, but I didn't tell my mum I just put it under my pillow. And then I was messing about in the garage or the shed with a tennis racket and I whacked my face and the tooth came out. So I put it under my pillow and then in the morning I said to my mum and the tooth was still there. This is where I sort of like quite cleverly played it. I thought I said my tooth came out last night, mum, and I put it under my pillow and it's gone, but there's no there's no money there. I thought I normally got a 50p. And she went, Oh I don't know, I don't know about that. So I went and brushed my teeth, and then she went, Oh, have you checked again? So I went to have a look, 50p was there. But the way that I knew that that she'd had some involvement in this, because it could have been I just missed the 50p, the tooth was gone. So the Colombo moment, just one more thing. It is possible I missed the 50p, I'll accept that. But the tooth was there about two minutes ago, and it's not now. So you do the maths. So yeah, I kind of ruined some of the magic for myself from a young man.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I think you've got to be honest with yourself, though, aren't you? You can't, you know what I mean? You can't just live in a world of delusion forever. I'd like to know like the latest, actually. Let us know the latest. No one will admit to this. The latest.
SPEAKER_00:What do you mean? What do you mean? We're ruining the magic.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, imagine that.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I'm I'm at the coal facing this now because what I will say is I I do believe in Santa, but as a concept more than a man. So what the fucking hell are you talking about? What is this? So Santa is the the the work, the time, the effort that goes into making all this real for kids. That's what again, much more jody than me. But having said that, I've had Christmas Eve where I've been in a small room with my dad trying to put up a cabin bed and banging my head every 30 seconds and trying to get it done in as quick as I can, so we can tie some ribbon round it and run it to one of them in a different room and stuff. And I I think Christmas is or Santa is or both combined. What the you know, the sort of time and effort you put in that makes it worth your while in a sense that you get to see the the joy in the kids. That's that's what I think to me it is. So I do think it's real, and and again, it's bits like that. That like I said, all right, you could say it's lazy. I choose to say it's Christmas magic. That when Jody's ordered all the stuff and I don't know what it is, that is magic to me. Yeah, you could say, Well, yeah, but you just didn't do anything, did you? It's a cynical take, but yeah, you could say that. You where where did that do you ever ask to like go? What the hell is that?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, how much does that cost?
SPEAKER_00:Like oh my god, what is that doing?
SPEAKER_01:One one Christmas I went downstairs and it was getting older, and my dad had tonsillitis, and it's a bad thing to say for me, and I didn't mean it how I always remember it. I said, Oh, it's not actually as much here as I thought, and I didn't mean it in that way. Like, I don't know what I meant by it.
SPEAKER_00:I'm gonna show this year, Santa.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and my dad goes ungrateful bastard. I under his member that I'm really young, ungrateful bastard. Uh, but yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Ah, he's let himself down, hasn't it, big man? There's not much here today, is it? Rubbish, this isn't it?
SPEAKER_01:Um I can only remember one snow day recent years as well, which I th uh about 20 years ago. I want to say it snowed on Christmas Day.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. We were in Drumfield. I remember walking across to my aunties on Christmas Day. We'd had dinner, but we'd sort of gone to see him in the evening, I think. And it was definitely snowing. There was definitely a covering. Yeah, that's probably probably thinking around about the same time, yeah. No, in fact, no, no, I I'm thinking even earlier than that. So 20 years ago.
SPEAKER_01:Do you have any do you have any rules when you're opening presents, by the way? Because I was I was thinking about this earlier. Like my mum would just make me open the little presents first and then you know get to the big ones after.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I mean, generally it was stocking before the bigger presents, but yeah. I mean, I th I mean I'm sure this is lots of kids, and and and actually no, actually, that sounds I don't like the way that sounds. I'm sure there are lots of kids who don't get loads of presents, and and that's that's not great. I'm sure but I'm sure there's also lots of kids. Bad kids, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Uh well yeah, or or Well that's what people say though, isn't it? If you're not a good girl, even at school, people would say, if you're not good, Santa won't come. Those poor bastards who didn't have any money at all.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, well, yeah, my dad's lost his job and my mum's not being well. Well, have you been good though?
SPEAKER_01:Have you like yeah, but you would do thinking, well, it's obviously up to me, it's probably obviously my fault uh bastard. What a fucking terrible time of the year.
SPEAKER_00:But the girls certainly get that much stuff that we kind of the only rule is we try and slow them down a little bit because they just blitzed through it and they've got no idea what they've opened, they've not even paid attention to what they've got. I mean, there's still a couple of bits in the living room, genuinely, as I'm looking around recording this from last Christmas that that have never made it up to the rooms or or they've never played with some sort of wrap them up again. Yeah, yeah, could could do that. I keep saying I'm gonna put them in the bin, and then I keep thinking, well, I can't really do that, but no.
SPEAKER_01:Talking about that, by the way. What present I've I I've written written a few of these downs that come to my head. I'm not like I said, I've done no research on this, I wanted to be more uh proper remembering. But stressing the 80s, maybe early 90s, I think this presents that we all probably had on Christmas Day, and the ones that have come to mind for me is Mr. Froster. Remember Mr. Frost?
SPEAKER_00:Always wanted a Mr. Frosty and never got one. Do you know what? That's one of my sort of that's one of my regrets in life that. Biggest regret is not getting a Mr. Fr Frost there. I always wanted it. Every year I said I wanted it, made it really clear. I just think my mum weren't having it, just didn't want one. Why?
SPEAKER_01:Overrated.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I think she probably could see it for what it was, which is messing about for not much reward, but still that's what I wanted. I never got one.
SPEAKER_01:Absolutely. Uh another thing's that Paul Daniels magic set.
SPEAKER_00:I remember you're talking. Although I'm yeah, possibly got that for a birthday rather than no, no, no, actually. Possibly Christmas, yeah. What a brilliant thing that was, yeah. I couldn't do any tricks on that, obviously, with my description.
SPEAKER_01:It's magic. Uh Hungry Hippos. That was another one that I don't know if that might have been a birthday or more of a Christmas.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I've certainly had it. I don't remember that one being a big hitter, to be honest, but I liked it. And the other one I got was Screwball Scramble. Yeah, we got that. Yeah, that was a good one.
SPEAKER_01:Everyone had the same presence. This is the thing, isn't it? Back in the 80s.
SPEAKER_00:I got some good Lego as a kid. I remember getting um Carno. Did you ever have Makano? Yeah, I liked a bit of Macano, yeah. Yeah, I was shit on that one. A big hitter as a youngster was uh Playmobile uh crane. So it's like a massive crane, you could extend it out, you got all workers with it and stuff. Um I wonder if that's that's what led to my current career, maybe. Dunno. Um but but the big hitter for me was the and and this was at an age, what would I have been then? About ten. I was still at Gleedless then. Might have been nine or ten. But I got uh an Apollo bike, and it was the best thing I'd ever seen.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I'd got up that early, my mum didn't know I were up, and she came downstairs and I'd already opened my bike, and she said something just came out of the darkness and sort of sprung at her, and I just jumped on her and hugged her and said, Thanks for my bike. So I kinda knew by then she'd done the business, not yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I'll tell you what's something that everyone used to get, maybe a little bit older than like ten, maybe about ten actually, I don't know. Yamaha keyboard. Everyone had a Yamaha keyboard, didn't they, at one point?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Or or a Casio, but yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Or a Casio. It could have been a Casio, actually. Could have been a Casio.
SPEAKER_00:I associate Yamaha's as the slightly bigger hitters, like the the Casio's were the quite little crappy ones that everyone used to have.
SPEAKER_01:I might have had a Casio actually rather than a Yamaha. Maybe I've upgraded it to a Yamaha. But like most I imagine most people did this where they opened it and thought, this is going to be amazing. I'm going to be I'll definitely learn how to play this. And they couldn't play immediately, so they just gave up.
SPEAKER_00:I've done it again, twice as an adult. Twice I bought a Yamaha Yamaha keyboard to learn to play piano. There's one in the dining room now, actually. The the elf prank was that he was playing it with his headphones on yesterday. Um he's used it more than me.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. My Nan once brought me an electric guitar. Um and I'm pretty sure I still got it. Yeah, yeah, I've still got it somewhere. I don't think it's got any strings on it, and I tried to sell it because it were knackered, and they said nice to it's too knackered, so that were a waste of money from my nan. But I didn't at least I did learn how to play, but yeah, keyboards. Yeah, I always like it.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, obviously, like we're talking about big hitters, but I think the things for me with uh the things that like were only ever going to be good for a moment, but but they were they would you weren't expecting them. I used to like you know, like little magic trick. They weren't magic tricks, like puzzles where you had to separate like steel bits of steel and stuff, or like uh a magic trick. I think like I got a couple of little magic tricks. Um things like where you get a wow, look at this. You can plug both ends of it into a potato, and you've got yourself a clock, and it was like, oh wow, does that work?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, my mum always like I remember one year like being a bit disappointed. I mean, she spent a lot of, I can't remember what the big presents were, but the big presents that she bought me, whatever. I didn't really spend much time on that, and apparently I was just spending time rolling some dice that she'd bought just rolling my dice on the floor and that.
SPEAKER_00:Crazy world of a dyspraxic man.
SPEAKER_01:I know, yeah, just rolling my dice. Um and she was always mad as well that she says that I used to um I used to play, unlike your daughters, actually, I used to play with the present as soon as I'd opened it. I'd go, Oh my god, this is amazing and play with it. And she's like, I know you bought more. She's like, and I'd like it take me ages to open them.
SPEAKER_00:No, I think that's a good thing. I think enjoy enjoy the items as you do at the moment.
SPEAKER_01:All the other things that you get all the time, this is still to this day, is selection boxes, which is the laziest gift you can give a person, child or adult, I think. Yeah, agreed. Um I just think it's maybe as well not bother. You may as well not bother. Honestly, just don't bother. Just just put do you know what I mean? Just put I don't know. Just say, look, I'm not gonna give you a gift. I sound a bit like Larry David here, but you know what I mean? It's just like there's no point. I I prefer you not to give it away.
SPEAKER_00:What you'd rather have nothing.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Because it's just a token gesture, isn't it?
SPEAKER_00:It's the it's just I I think though these days, like once you get into January. Yeah, I know, it's pathetic. But but I do think once you get into sort of January, that first week back at work, on some of those cold dark nights, you can reach for a selection box and think I'm gonna treat myself to a curly whirly.
SPEAKER_01:Well, one thing that I do still like now, if anyone just, you know, give generous like uh quality streets. Everyone got a massive quality street sub, didn't they, back in the day? I think they were massive in the day.
SPEAKER_00:My eyes were the size of a wheelie bin, and it's really quick.
SPEAKER_01:These like quality streets you used to get. And they'd last for Christmas, wouldn't they? And they were like really I love the rappers of the quality street and roses, to be fair. I probably preferred roses as a chocolate, but I think quality street They've all changed now, they've gone rubbish, they've all gone woke. Um, gone woke, quality street.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, both of them they've sort of changed all the packaging from the traditional ones. Um quality streets, they're just coloured rappers, they're not the right traditional ones. Um God's sake. Like heroes are something that's crept in more recently as well. That's something you you can get.
SPEAKER_01:And celebrations and heroes are the more modern celebrations and heroes, yeah, but it's not traditional Quality Street are traditional.
SPEAKER_00:Roses, yeah. I I don't know. I think roses as well. I think they've changed. I think they've Quality Street and Roses. I don't know, it's hard to separate them now. I would definitely have probably said roses as a kid, but I I don't know, no, I'm not really bothered.
SPEAKER_01:Annuals, you just got loads of annuals.
SPEAKER_00:Uh that was the only thing that we could open on the night before.
SPEAKER_01:Oh really?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, which again I suppose don't make sense with Santa because I know some people who do this. We we used to have some presents under a tree, but then the bulk of them would arrive Christmas Eve, because that's what Santa was bringing. But I know people who they put the all the all the presents build up in the festive period under the tree, and then they they vanish on Christmas Eve so that Santa can bring them on Christmas Eve night. That makes absolutely no sense, does it?
SPEAKER_01:Think about that, yeah. Yeah, I'm just gonna take these.
SPEAKER_00:Imagine Santa, like he's he's got all this massive, like millions of tons of presents on his bike. Santa, can you come and take these ones and bring them back tonight? Is he having a laugh?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, are you having a laugh? Do you know how many houses I've got? I've got two tonight.
SPEAKER_00:You've got a million already. I don't need to take them.
SPEAKER_01:That's ridiculous. I've never I've never even never questioned that. Why would you?
SPEAKER_00:I've definitely heard I can't actually think you told me, but I remember at the time thinking, that is mad. Like I know everyone has their own sort of logic they apply to it.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But I do think like if you kind of want kids to keep believing it, that that is mad that all the same present is Spanish.
SPEAKER_01:I was talking to someone that now and her daughter is I can't remember what age she she was, and she was saying that um she her daughter got to that stage where someone had said, Well, Phoebe at school says that there's uh there is no Santa Claus. Do you have you have got have you got that yet?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. Um if she's told me today that um someone's told her that there's no Santa Claus. Simone says that and you would say Walt Maybe Simone don't get any presidents then. Well, my argument has always been with him that it's real if you believe it's real, and if you stop believing it, then it isn't, and then other things can still happen that make it good, but very good. It's it's only real if you uh if you believe in it. And the other thing that I've said to him is as you get older, if if you have sort of kids around you again, whether they're your own or nephews or nieces, or then then the sort of magic comes back a little bit, and you get more out of it as a grown-up because I when do you feel like I went through a period where it was just a pain in the arse Christmas Day. It was just like we'd been out the night before, quite often, tickets for Leadmill or or wherever it'd been, like some something.
SPEAKER_01:I used to really enjoy Christmas Eve, but you were yeah, Christmas Day were a write-off. To be fair, I used to go to pump Christmas Day, every Christmas Day.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, well we we used to go out fairly early Christmas Eve, full night out, we'd have tickets for somewhere, and then like we used to have the adversary in Castleton actually, didn't we? Yeah, like yeah, we did a few sort of minibus things as well, like that were nice. But when we were in Sheffield and it were kind of like rather than going back to anyone's house and sort of drinking more, you'd sort of think, well, we've all kind of got to go home, she's got to be ready for Christmas. And you just wake up feeling rubbish, and I I kind of just kind of just wanted it to get to dinner time so I could have my dinner. Yeah, I don't know, like it definitely it it loses its glory if if you let it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I mean what just going back to Santa a little bit. Um what what age would you say to your kid this has got out of hand now, he doesn't exist. Like when when would you have to break the news? Um or would you just leave it?
SPEAKER_00:It gets a bit much so, don't it?
SPEAKER_01:It's like the sort of 15, 16, and they're still saying It'd be a good storyline where you trust your parents, that yeah, but you said it were true, Daddy. So, you know, I'm telling you now. I don't know why I'd be calling you daddy at 16, but um Santa, don't I?
SPEAKER_00:It's like uh inventional lying. It's like Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:You said it were true.
SPEAKER_00:In his words, as real because it's because everyone says it's real.
SPEAKER_01:Would you have to sit down with your kid and say, You fucking are you for real? It'd be a great prank from a kid, actually, to keep you know, like to string you along, they don't believe in it. But to say, Oh, but Santa being again, you're like you're 15 years old. Oh no, no, he's he's here, you told me you were.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, but like yeah, what age do you say? Look, if you ever thought about the laws of physics, what how how how would you think this is possible?
SPEAKER_01:I think how bad your science classes would be going if you believed in it like 1516. What so where does he come from? Right? Yeah, he's got no like he's in like he's he's not he's not got a rocket launcher or anything, has it? He's just like on his flying reindeers.
SPEAKER_00:Well, it's like time travel and stuff, like you start getting into the concept of how how fast is he moving to do this, and then if he's actually moving faster than light, is he getting there before he left, and then is he actually going back in time?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. It's it's it's it's a difficult one, isn't it? It's a difficult one.
SPEAKER_00:I think uh Arthur Christmas has got a good take on it. So that they do um you won't have seen it. Never seen it. They've got their elves, they live in the North Pole, but they've sort of embraced technology, so they've they have got like rocket ships and they've got cloaking technology that make them invisible, and and hundreds of elves come down and all do little towns and cities at the same time, and yeah. I I mean don't get me wrong, you still gotta go with it a little bit.
SPEAKER_01:Oh yeah, of course, yeah. What would you say your most memorable Christmas ever was? Is it the bite one?
SPEAKER_00:I think so, but I think no actually no, I I would say no because it that's the best present. But not the most memorable Christmas. I think Christmas is there was a couple in a row where we stayed at my grandma's one in we lived at Glealess in Sheffield, but we stayed at my grandma's in Drumfield, and there was one where we stayed at my grandparents down in Corby. And they were different because like it was Christmas that wasn't at home and we got really good presents and just seeing different families. So probably those two stand out in my memory. The the two where we didn't actually stay at home for Christmas Eve. There's one for me which um my dad by uh well I think I might have told you this before.
SPEAKER_01:Bought some games, uh I had a C64, and I opened these games, and there were four games, and they were they were pretty crap games. Well, not crap games, games that I didn't want, Nick Faldo's golf being one of them. Um I can't imagine you playing Nick Faldo's golf. No, I can't remember anything about and there was some F1 game and remember Zool. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Zool were in it. And I'm thinking, I do know you. I mean I were old enough to not be a dick, and I was like thinking, this is this is shit. Like, why is how is this my main present? These four games I've not asked for. And then my dad said, Oh, looking corner, what's he saying corner? And he said, Uh for Amiga's only. So I twigged immediately. My dad goes, hang on, I've got another one here. Brought out the amiga. Brilliantly, well brilliantly played. Yeah, no, it's good. I like that. Yeah, I were really underwhelmed, like but I was still underwhelmed after. I mean, long term it were a great presentation.
SPEAKER_00:The problem is though, if you didn't like the games, it kind of doesn't matter what console it is.
SPEAKER_01:Exactly that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, I played them, they were an F1 game, I think it was just called Grand Prix, and that were really good that to be honest, as a game. But yeah, so I was thinking, oh, this is amazing, I've got an Amiga. Because there were no like sort of hints that we're getting one. But then, as you say, when I get in the games, I was thinking, mmm, yeah, could have been better.
SPEAKER_00:Actually, as well, yeah, computer related. So the year we got uh a Super Nintendo, that that was a good one. Uh that came with a Mario bundle, and also a little bit older, but one I loved my favourite gaming hero was when I got the PS1. So got it with Wipeout and Oh, everyone had Wipeout, yeah. Oh, one of maybe an early Tekken. But then I remember I think it was the following year, and I didn't get the game, but I remember going round to uh my cousin's and he'd got Tomb Raider. Yeah. And just being blown up, like playing that and thinking this is the best thing. And and I remember like thinking, I've I've got to get this the first opportunity. I don't know if like I got up early and got a bus the next morning, or if if maybe I had to wait a day or something, maybe the shops were shut the next day. But I just remember playing Tomb Raider and thinking I've I've got to go get this as soon as I can get it. It's the best thing I've ever seen.
SPEAKER_01:Well, we used to go to my nan's at night. This was the thing about the Amiga one, and they were a game I I've mentioned on here before, I think, called football champ uh arcade game. You know, then you can shoot the ball through the goalie goes through the net. Go super shard. Um, I used to play that all all the day, uh, all the time at arcades. And I went to my name, I used to get my presents from my mum and all that stuff in the day, and then we'd go to my nan's at night, and I'd have some more presents there. And then that were one of the games, football champ, like for the amiga, who's gonna get out and see 64. And it was like, oh my, I can't, and then to be fair though, my nan's present were that good. Uh I just wanted to go home. I didn't want to be at my nan's. Do you know what I mean? I just wanted to go home.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I I remember that, yeah. Just thinking, I just want to go and play my games, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Which really harsh that did you so you did you when you weren't at your nan's, did you just go and visit relatives and stuff?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, we used to have to sort of do the whole cycling round different, not not literally cycling, like visiting different people. My my auntie and my grandma and granddad live quite close by. We'd we generally have been down to sort of see my Corby family earlier than that. But yeah, definitely it was a it was a time for a lot more than today. Like, and I know like Jody's dad sometimes says, like, oh, we used to go around visiting all the time. How come you don't come around all the time? The world's changed that people were pal. World's like pal a lot of time. People used to go out, it's like that thing people would say, Oh, we used to go out walking every Sunday. Well, yeah, but it were either that or watching Songs of Praise, Songs of Praise, yeah, like or whatever was on earlier than that. I don't know, nothing. Just watching country file. Whereas now the problem is now the the kids have got unlimited access to um unbelievable things, and and so grown-ups as well, to be fair.
SPEAKER_02:Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Football's on all the time. You you it's I don't know, yeah, it's just it's a different world, really.
SPEAKER_01:Uh, even my worst ever Christmas when I had Covid and I'm literally on my own. Because so, watch all the scent and greases, just put YouTube on and they're all there. Yeah, I mean, you've got stuff to do, you've got more than enough stuff. Modern world. My uncle used to, when we were getting my hands, used to dress as Father Christmas. Um I think they'd take it in turns, actually, to dress as Father Christmas and say, ho, ho, ho, here's the presents. And some of my cousins who were younger than me were absolutely amazed. Well, thought it was him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Genuinely, like the eyes were like they're only like four or five.
SPEAKER_00:That's the other thing that stuns me actually with the kids is that like we go to see Santa in a supermarket, and he's like a sort of small fat guy without much facial air and clearly a fake beard. And then the next day you say, Oh, Santa's doing like a drive round on his sleigh round the the roads, and he's like a tall, skinny guy with like a real beard and stuff. And yeah, and like hold on a minute. That's not the same Santa we saw yesterday. It's just this acceptance, and it's quite clever, really, as a as a character. As long as he's got the big suit on and uh the bushy beard and stuff, it's kind of that's a good point.
SPEAKER_01:I never thought about that. When you go and visit Santa in um like stores and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_00:Well, what I always used to say is, and I think I've I think I've probably pinched it from home alone, actually. But he says, uh he goes to see a Santa and it he he asks him for a wish or something. I think he wants his family back. But he says, uh, listen, I know you're not the real Santa. And he and he sort of stops as if he's gonna go, Well, hold on a minute, I do not he says, but I also know you work for him and you can get a message back to him. And the Santa's kind of goes, Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah. So that's kind of always been my stance with the kids. Like, look, I don't know if this is the real one or not, it can't be everywhere all at once. But that you know, certainly if it's not the real one, then he's working for the real one, and you can still talk to him and he'll he'll get your message.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's there's there's a number of them that could have worked in your script that you were writing, actually.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, well, if you remember what I was what I was trying to think is not only do we need to have lots of them, but there has to be like multilingual ones for different countries.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you had a German.
SPEAKER_00:I had like an Italian one who drove a drove Lamborghini in the rest of the year.
SPEAKER_01:They were really stereotypical as well.
SPEAKER_00:I think they were, yeah, yeah. I had uh all different like nationals that were that were hugely stereotypical, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:German delivering presents apologizing for the war every time, like it didn't. I must have had lots of my country.
SPEAKER_00:I don't think I had that as a no, you didn't have that one to be fair.
SPEAKER_01:Um I used to think like you mentioned dinner earlier, by the way. Like we're talking about like wanting to get on from Nans. I always thought dinner got in the way as a kid. I would not interest I love it now, but I like not interested at all.
SPEAKER_00:I would just have always liked the crackers and the party hats, and like even as a kid, like I still like that even before I loved the food.
SPEAKER_01:We used to go to my hands, and it were great. You used to be able to pick, but I used to pick less food out, one of those things when you pick your own sort of big things in the middle, and then you spoon your own as you play. I'd pick less so I could finish earlier, but then my dad's say you're not leaving until everyone else has finished. And I'm like, Yeah, but you've got about fucking hundred puddings. Let's go through all day.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, we're we're we're sort of straying into toughty territory here, aren't we? But but let's let's go through items on a Christmas dinner. To be fair, we always trade into territory, don't we?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we always do. It's very yeah. Well, they don't do they don't think pod enough anyway, so we can't.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, they're they're in our territory these days. Yeah. So let me reel off some things and you tell me if you think they should be on a Christmas dinner. Some some are obviously going to be there. Like turkey.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Uh although I could have do you know what realistically though, just on that first one, if someone said, Oh, I couldn't get any turkey, I'm really sorry. I'm just saying it's fine, just get some chicken, beef, whatever.
SPEAKER_00:Co COVID year, we did a beef rib joint because it obviously just does. No one else from it. It's not a deal breaker. Probably better, to be honest.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's not a deal breaker.
SPEAKER_00:But turkey, another meat. So if you've if you've got turkey, I'm offering you another meat, a beef or a ham. Would you go two meats?
SPEAKER_01:I don't like mixing meats, to be honest.
SPEAKER_00:So we I always I always do a ham and then we'll have turkey and ham. So I would go another meat. Not a not a mixer. Uh mashed roast potatoes, or no, probably just those two. Do you go both or one?
SPEAKER_01:Um I'm probably both, to be honest. I'm both more roast. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Carrots? You having carrots?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, gotta be a carrot, gotta be a carrot in there.
SPEAKER_00:Are you having parsnips?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_00:I'm having all these unless I say I'm not, by the way. Um are you having stuffing? Yeah, yeah. I'm not bothered about stuffing. Don't like onion, don't trust it. Even when they say it's not got onion in, I don't trust it. Go on. Uh red cabbage.
SPEAKER_01:Not no, that's not a deal breaker. Not a deal breaker.
SPEAKER_00:I can I can leave red cabbage, not too fussed. But it's one sign, but pigs in blankets? Not a fan, do not like them. See, I I'm not fussed and I'm not on any other roast dinner. I think it's a new thing as well. Yeah, I don't mind them though. I I think they seem traditional enough. I I I I would be a little bit disappointed if there weren't any pigs in blankets.
SPEAKER_01:Oh no, I I I'd be looking at it thinking that that is an example of the woke society that we now live in that we have to have these on as plates in case we offend.
SPEAKER_00:Well, you don't have to have one, it's just the option, is what I'm saying. Do you want the options?
SPEAKER_01:Just did they didn't exist. No one existed in the 90s.
SPEAKER_00:Um York's pudding.
SPEAKER_01:Uh oh, yeah, that that is like number one, probably that, to be completely honest.
SPEAKER_00:Is that an older thing or does everyone do that now?
SPEAKER_01:Well, it's gonna be. Scotta be, surely.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it won't be the same without, would it? But I don't know. I don't I don't know if that's something not everybody goes for. And then what about like bread sauce and cranberry sauce? Like I'm going gravies, obviously. Gravy is it can't be fucking dry. I've seen I've seen people eat it dry. I've seen that done. What? Yeah, I can't again I can't I can't remember. You can't have dry Christmas dinner. I've seen someone eat a dry Christmas dinner.
SPEAKER_01:No way, Pedro.
SPEAKER_00:Um bread sauce or cranberry sauce.
SPEAKER_01:Cranberry sauce is more I'm not bothered about either, but it would be cranberry sauce.
SPEAKER_00:And this this is this is a must for me. And I like them all year, but but sprouts, I've got to have a couple of sprouts.
SPEAKER_01:I will have them on my plate. This is true, this as well. Yeah, it's always obvious.
SPEAKER_00:Always puts them on a plate, never eats them.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly that. And I might have one or a or a or a bite or what I'd really don't like.
SPEAKER_00:And then last ones, if you're going if you're saying pigs in blankets are non-traditional, you might not like this, but I do the day before I cook it and I warm it up on the day. I do a cauliflower cheese accompaniment. Not interested. No.
SPEAKER_01:Take your cauliflower cheese, take it back to the kitchen. I do not want any more food. Not even the option of it, you're not bothered. Not interested. Do not I mean I'd eat it.
SPEAKER_00:Have I missed anything there? Is there anything you've got to do?
SPEAKER_01:If you said you can have the rest, but you have to eat this, I'll eat it. But if you're just offering it, mate, I'll I'll just turn away and pretend I've not seen it. Is there anything there that I've missed? Um what do you have for out? What what sort of what what an afters, like a sopper of sort of thing?
SPEAKER_00:I I don't, I'd rather sort of fill myself on the main. Do you mean a pudding or do you mean sort of layer? The pudding, yeah. The pudding.
SPEAKER_01:To be honest, I don't think there's a definite one for me. Obviously, Christmas pudding's one of the things that people like.
SPEAKER_00:I don't like Christmas pudding. I don't like mince pies. I'd probably sooner go uh Christmas log.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can eat that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. But uh but I wouldn't I'd rather overeat my mane than uh save any room for dessert. Yeah, fair play, fair play.
SPEAKER_01:Anything else going on on Christmas Day? Uh or do you want to move around to boxing there?
SPEAKER_00:Uh nothing I say. I think the there's always that massive lull, isn't there, like later on in the day. This is what I'm gonna say then, it just sort of burns out a bit. And it's like and and that's the bit where if you've agreed to go and do anything, like, oh yeah, we'll come round and see you after dinner, you're kicking yourself and thinking, oh god.
SPEAKER_01:Well you my nan changed us from dinner to night when they became basically too many uh like kids in the family and stuff to to sort of feed everyone. So we'll come around at night instead. I just thought I can't be lost. Nothing no no offense to my nan. Do you know what I mean? But I I just I was like, I just want to stay here and play my games and stuff like that. Which is why I'm gonna say something controversial here. I think Boxing Day is better than Christmas Day as a kid, because I think there's less to do, and I think is that's the day where you can concentrate fully on your presence.
SPEAKER_00:That's a big shout. Um I can't I can't go with you, but I but I kinda know what you mean. I I kinda I understand it's an easy day in terms of you you sleep well Christmas day and night, yeah. You can wake up and play with what you want to play with, you know what you've got, you can play games or whatever it is. You still get a nice dinner, because you generally get a sort of secondary version of a Christmas dinner.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all the leftovers in it, really.
SPEAKER_00:And it's a bit of a chill day, isn't it? It's just a bit of a lull like that.
SPEAKER_01:I think there's more stuff going on as well. It's boxing day football, if you want to, you don't have to. You don't have to go to boxing day football, but it's a nice thing.
SPEAKER_00:Also, you sort of you miss a lot of what's going on on Christmas Day, whereas like there'll be a boxing day filled like a diehard or something, would be honest. Yeah, yeah. Like you could really sit and enjoy that. Yeah, and I I kind of see where you're going, but you can't I I think those two days in the year, but anyone who thinks like Easter Day comes close, and obviously I suppose we're we're taking a very sort of Christian view on this. That there are people listening who have other festivals and other things going on. I I've never experienced any other of those things, so I can only kind of relate it to our channel.
SPEAKER_01:I'll celebrate them. If any any any if we can get a day off work, I'll celebrate them.
SPEAKER_00:Celebrate all the festivals, yeah. Celebrate all of them, yeah. Um, but but what I mean though is like I think you're right, Boxing Day is very close behind Christmas Day, but to me it is still behind it.
SPEAKER_01:I think it's I I don't know. I mean, what about Boxing Day in 1963 when all those remember the mad football results get shared every every single year?
SPEAKER_00:But they went on like 4-3 and 5-4 and stuff.
SPEAKER_01:So it was like every year someone thinks he's the first person to like share it, they'll go, You're not gonna believe these results. Has anyone ever seen these before? It's a bit like Dead Man Shoes, that scene, do you know you're right here? You're right here, yeah. They get shared every fucking day, and like people are like, I'll tell you what, this is one of the best films. So I shared it once actually, that Dead Man's Shoes, that that one scene, and said, Has anyone ever seen this before? As a joke, I've got loads of oh, you want to watch it, mate? It's a great film. Because obviously on this podcast, I talk about I've not seen any films, but I have seen that, and I have seen that scene about 250,000 times, and I've seen the 1963 fucking boxing day results about two million times as well. You get the boxing day sales as well, by the way, if that's what you're interested in, if as an adult.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, again, the modern world's killed it all, hasn't it? Because you're getting your sales from sort of November now, so it's yeah, Black Friday, Cyber Monday.
SPEAKER_01:You say this. I went to Mike Ashley Sports Direct for some presents on Sunday, and I can't believe the prices in those places because I got some jeans for£60, the same jeans about four months ago, and I'm looking just because I thought these are pretty expensive. So I thought, oh, look at them what I got.£110, same jeans four months later. Oh lots, they've gone up. They've gone up. So I'm thinking maybe Mike Ashley. Well, is that because that's just Stormers Britain, though, is it? It could be Stormers Britain, or it could be Mike Ashlig doing the old boxing day sales like a true Englishman. Oh, you think he's put them up, just put them down again on boxing? It might put them back down to what they actually were, because I think that's what a lot of them do.
SPEAKER_00:Remember like DFS used to have to do that? Like everything was on sale, but then it like they put it up for one day a year or something. Yeah, so they're like and now they have to say, like, in small print, this has to have been on offer. This has to have been on full price for at least 30 days this year or something like that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think Mike Ashley's putting his jeans up, so you think it's fucking up, but people are gonna buy them. It's a good idea because people are gonna buy them because you don't want to wait until after Christmas. I am, because I've told my dad.
SPEAKER_00:Well, if you're having a look now and you get you get a bit of cash for Christmas, as you're getting older and you're not getting presents, and you think I love them jeans, but they were 180 quid. But I tell you what, they're 60 quid now.
SPEAKER_01:Amazon today tried to order a jumper for my dad, 11 pounds 70 delivery fee.
SPEAKER_00:And that's your dad's main present from you, isn't it? As the main breadwinner of the house. That's that's your Christmas treat for your dad who's looked after you for all these years. What is it? 11 pounds 70 is the value.
SPEAKER_01:70. I'm not paying that for a fucking Adidas jumper.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, you're not even paying that. I thought you'd tell me how cheap it was.
SPEAKER_01:No, I said to him, you'll have to wait.
SPEAKER_00:No, I've said to see if Mike Ashley brings it down. Yeah, no.
SPEAKER_01:I'll have to yeah. Oh wait, I went to Sports Direct to get something for him. I'm not paying those prices, we'll wait till Boxing Day. Mike Ashley needs to get to get going. Um, but yeah, so after Boxing Day is when the slow sort of demise comes back to, you know.
SPEAKER_00:I I think the period I don't like New Year's. Post Christmas depression. There was a period where I quite like New Year from the age of about I don't know, let's say 17 to 25, where you'd book a club night, there'd be enough of us to make it decent. We might meet up with other people from work or whatever. But I I think ever since then, I think I've I just I've got no time for New Year's Eve, New Year's Day. And I think that that lull between Christmas and New Year's again, it's slightly different when you've got kids, and what and what me and Jody have tried to do more recently is we try and I'd get her for a present like a few nights away somewhere, or or she'd book a meal somewhere and a night somewhere. We try and do something in that period between Christmas and New Year because it can be incredibly dull, can't it? And and I think the worst thing is you're sort of thinking, uh, we've just got to wait for New Year now. And then New Year comes around, and it it's the most disappointing. It's horrible. It's the least wonderful time of the year.
SPEAKER_01:I always remember one year, my mum on New Year's Day, we were driving back from we'd had a New Year's Eve party at my auntie's, and we were driving back, and my mum turned round Apple and just said, Well, that's it, now done, now Christmas. It was fucking like like someone to punch you in in the stomach. You've been waiting all that time for Christmas, so excited. You're like, Oh shit.
SPEAKER_00:I remember I sort of sometimes say this to the kids as well, but I don't mean it in the sort of Noah.
SPEAKER_01:She didn't mean any armbikes, you weren't doing it to black kids.
SPEAKER_00:I think I've got it from my dad who sort of meant it as like a kind of clever anecdotal, like, ah, have you thought about this? Yeah, but actually like it's a gut punch because I I think I do it to the kids now. That he used to say to me, You'll never be further away from Christmas Day than you are now. And I think, oh my god, yeah, you're right.
SPEAKER_01:It's an horrible thing to say. Oh, so it is depressing.
SPEAKER_00:You know that day that you love, you know, your favourite day of the year? You won't you will never be further away from it than you are right now. All right.
SPEAKER_01:Well, funnily enough, I'm gonna quote uh a Stephen King quote that I like, which sort of sums up that what you've just said, is Stephen King once said, It's funny how when you're a kid a day can last forever, now all these years just seem like a blink. And I think that's true as a kid, as a as a as an adult, you're like, Oh, Christmas again, is it? That's come round quick. As a kid, it seems like fucking miles away, doesn't it?
SPEAKER_00:When you when it's over I remember not that long ago saying to Ethe, my my youngest something about Christmas, and she said, How long is it? And I said, Well, it's it must have not quite been in December because I said to him, like, it's 27 or 28 days. She went, Oh my god, that's so far away. Yeah, it's four weeks. Like, what do you mean? She went, Oh no, like and I would think you God, I've got a lot to do at work, got things to sort out. God, Christmas can be here before I know it. People to see, things to do.
SPEAKER_01:Liam to edit, podcast to edit, which I haven't done actually, so get that one out. Um, well, when they listen to this, it won't matter. Liam, thank you for that. That has been a very homely uh it's been a long grown-out affair, that hasn't it?
SPEAKER_00:I'd I'd be very surprised. We say it a lot, but I would be very surprised if people are still here right now. So this could just be for me and you, this bit.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I've enjoyed it a lot. Yeah, it's not slagging ever all the listeners off. But yeah, if you've stuck with it this far, this is uh going out a couple of days before Christmas. So we will be back actually. I think you're gonna try and get the roadshow.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I've said I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna get the roadshow out for Christmas Day, so that's gonna go live. I suppose like what we've said is you know, TV's no good anymore, things have changed, there's no Christmas number one. What you can count on is the show that we recorded in September.
SPEAKER_01:We can we can see the numbers if you listen to this on Christmas Day. We see you, we know that you'll listen to this on Christmas Day.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and if you are three listeners in Poland or our uh nine listeners in New Zealand, I I don't know, whatever whatever the numbers are. But if you are those people, we we salute you. Yeah, we salute you.
SPEAKER_01:Thank you, Liam. Have a fantastic Christmas, and we will see you uh after Christmas.
SPEAKER_00:Well, you'll see me next weekend, won't you? But that'll be before this is released.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that don't that that you're running the magic lights, aren't they?
SPEAKER_00:I'll I'll see you certainly in spirit at least on the Saviours Day. Yeah, on the Saviours Day. Thank you. Merry Christmas.
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