WHO REMEMBERS? The UK Nostalgia Podcast

Who Remembers........The Baby Boy Byfield Award for 2025? (with Joe Stephenson)

Andrew and Liam Season 1 Episode 41

Ever tried to sum up a football year with a single name? That’s the mischievous magic of the Darren “Baby Boy” Byfield Award, and we’ve got its creator, Major Joe Stevenson, walking us through the 2025 edition with all the wit and precision it deserves. We open the hood on how a joke-turned-tradition captures the sport’s cultural memory better than any official honour: it isn’t about form charts or medals, but about who felt absolutely of-the-moment—peaking in the headlines, the memes, the pub chat, then slipping back into the pack.

We trace the award’s roots from a throwaway tweet into a festive calendar marker, revisiting why names like Brian Deane, “Actually Good Chris Wood,” and Ben Brereton Díaz landed so hard. Then we dig into the 2025 group stage: big names beside cult curios, Women’s Super League stars alongside viral flashes, and those impossibly specific labels that make you grin—“Manchester City’s Frank Lampard” energy applied to a new crop. Expect sharp cases for and against contenders like Marcus Rashford “at Barça,” Scott McTominay, Dan Burn, Semenyo, Everton’s Jack Grealish, Mary Earps, Chloe Kelly, Hannah Hampton, and Sam Kerr, with a frank look at recency bias and the real criteria: who defined the year.

We also dive into the delicious chaos of the Gimmick Battle Royal, featuring still‑unemployed Henry Winter, the big‑haired United fan, and a Graham Potter face swap—because modern football memory lives online as much as on the pitch. Can a manager like Big Ange fit the Byfield mould after a year of whiplash highs and lows? Should non‑players ever win? We make the case, challenge lazy picks, and celebrate the award’s charitable backbone, where witty donations fuel real impact.

Vote, reminisce, and help bottle 2025 in one unforgettable name. If you enjoyed the episode, follow the show, share it with a friend, and leave a quick review—then tell us your Byfield winner and why.

SPEAKER_02:

Hello and welcome to the podcast Who Remembers? It's a festive end-of-year episode. We're joined by a legend, the man, the myth, Major Charles Joe Stevenson, and he's here to discuss the Baby Boy Byfield Award for 2025. So this is it. We've got the the scoop, the one everyone was after. We've got the major, Mr. Joe Stevenson. How should we address you? Is it is it Joe? Is it the Major? Is it Carlyle's finest? Which which do you go by these days these days?

SPEAKER_00:

Um you can be Twitter Funny Man, Joe Stevenson, Joe Stevenson, or simply the major, whatever you like.

SPEAKER_01:

We'll mix it up as it up as we go along, I think. Um genuinely thank you for coming in on this. I know you're obviously really, really busy at the moment because you've got is tomorrow, the big day. I think we're going to put this out straight after recording. So the big day is tomorrow, innit? The the major the major what am I about? The uh baby boy byfield 2003 award for the most You say it. You say it. I've ruined it.

SPEAKER_00:

I I don't usually say it out loud, I try and it's hard, yeah. It is the Darren Baby Boy Byfield is the most 2003 footballer ever award for 2025. That's it, that's it. Fantastic.

SPEAKER_02:

Let's start then. So we'll perhaps save the Major Charles stuff because we might do an episode on the Major Charles Ingram, whatever happened there. So we'll keep that in the back pocket for now. But in terms of the byfield, then I I take it that's okay shortening it to byfield. Does it have to be referred in full the full name every time?

SPEAKER_00:

You can edit the full name in afterwards.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, okay. We'll do that afterwards, yeah. So so I asked AI to define what it is because I'll be honest, I love it and I don't really know what it is. So co-pilot's description of it is uh it's it's not an official football honour, it's an internet-made tongue-in-cheek award created by a football fan. Yeah, straight away it's failed. Yeah. Um and then what we get to is it's essentially a humorous nostalgia-driven fan award celebrating footballers who feel extremely of their era. And that that that to me, so it's players who, if you looked back and said, Oh, what do you remember about that year, they would stand out as the player of the year. Is that but it doesn't have to be a player, but but that's kind of how I would judge it. I am I anywhere near on the definition though.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, you've you've got it right actually. A lot of people think it's the most 2003 footballer, which every year I say doesn't make sense because it would always be Darren Byfield, wouldn't it? Well, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01:

When did it start? When were you the first one that you did?

SPEAKER_00:

The first ever byfield. Um I believe it was 2019, and one one day I tweeted. This was back, this was before I was the major. Pre-major. Pre-major. Yeah, pre-major. I I tweeted I don't know why I tweeted this, but I tweeted who is the most 2003 footballer. For me, it can only be Darren, baby boy byfield. Yeah. And then a few people agreed, a few disagreed, you know, that's their choice.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Well, you know, you can't you but as we'll get on to, some of the choices that people make are very questionable, I think.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I think some people thought it should be JJ Kotcha, but Oh no, that's too you Byfield's perfect.

SPEAKER_01:

We were playing for Rotherham at that point, do you know?

SPEAKER_00:

Or yeah, he didn't marry Jamelia, did he? JJ Kotcha. No, no, Jamelia Kotcha.

SPEAKER_01:

Um but they're obviously taking a life of its own, and now I do think it's genuinely a Christmas tradition, and I it's one of those sort of things I I vote every year, and then I look when the when the groups come out, I think, why've people picked him? Then but then I struggle to pick. Do you choose yourself? Do you have a vote?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I do I do have a vote. I I tried with the preliminary round and I got pretty much every prediction wrong.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_00:

You can't trust people. No, you can't do the right thing.

SPEAKER_01:

I've got to admit, I'm always a bit disappointed with the winner because I always feel that people go for the obvious one, which is which is what you want in a way. You've got to make it, you know, you've got it's gotta be it's gotta be something that everyone can relate to. But I think was it Chris Wood who won last year? Actually, good Chris Wood.

SPEAKER_00:

Actually good Chris Wood.

SPEAKER_01:

Actually, good Chris Wood last year. What's your favourite ever won, by the way? What's your favourite ever winner?

SPEAKER_00:

Um Patrick Paddy Bamford, that was a good one. I'm just looking at the list now. Yeah, baby boy byfield was the the zenith of it. So when when I did that, I went back all the way to 1992 and then forward to 2018. So 2019 was the first time people voted, and there's been six since then.

SPEAKER_02:

But there is there is actually a quiz, by the way, that does go back. It gives winners back to 92. I don't know who's assigned that.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it wasn't it wasn't me, it was somebody called Oliver. Right, the good man.

SPEAKER_02:

And what what I like there, obviously we we're Chef United fans, me and uh Andrew, but the the first winner was 1992 and it's a Chef United player. I assume it must be Brian Dean. It is Brian Dean. Is it right, okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Or is the first goal on Sky. Not the first goal on Sky. Was it the first goal on the Sky?

SPEAKER_01:

First ever Premier League goal. Yeah, first ever Premier League goal. That's right, against uh Forrest for Forrest. Yeah, yeah, edit that out, yeah. But yeah, I think Brian Dean is a perfect sort of winner for that award because nobody really remembers him post 1992. When you say Brian Dean, this is what this is what I think sums I think that actually sums up this award. When you think Brian Dean, you think that one year, that's all you think of. That one goal is all you're thinking of, yeah. So I think that's a perfect winner for it.

SPEAKER_02:

Are there any on the flip side though, yeah? Are there any that that you don't agree with, Joe, that you think I really because I I assume once you put it to the vote it becomes in in the the incompetent public's hands, then you don't have any say over it. Is there any that you're really disappointed with?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it's their choice, isn't it? Their choice, not my choice. Um I can't remember who who was the contender last year. I don't think Chris Wood should have won. I don't know who my pick was, but he had a good year.

SPEAKER_02:

I think the fact that he's dropped off this year though kind of makes last year.

SPEAKER_01:

Well is in it again this year. Yeah, but not not as good Chris Wood.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it's not as good Chris Wood now. Well I think the fact he's had a worst year, worse year than last year makes it a stronger win.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, it does actually, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

It kind of makes more sense. I were worried that he were gonna carry on being. Yeah, it's I would d I'm delighted that he's not that good anymore because I think if it is never one beat. No, and I think Ben Barrett and D has won it one year. That's a perfect one. Yeah, he's had that one mad, what, four months or whatever, where he was scoring all those goals for Chile, changed his name, and then no one yeah, he doesn't do anything anymore. I work with the Derby fan and he thinks he's a pile of shit. So that's that's what we were wanting it from as winners, really.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it's it's got to sort of be the peak of their career.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

It's Manchester City's Frank Lampard, which was the peak of his own.

SPEAKER_02:

I love I was saying to uh to Andrew actually, I I love the the kind of possessive ones, so the yeah I like how like Frank Lampard every year could be Coventry's Frank Lampard, Man City's Frank Lampard. I I like the the kind of owned person. I I really like those ones personally. They they tend to swerve my vote a little bit actually.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I mean that's that is the problem they do swerve a lot of people's votes.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, that's the thing, yeah. I know what you mean. It probably it's the easy choice, isn't it? It's the lazy choice, maybe.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, so I've had to replace Viral Dubai, John Joe Shelby with simply John Joe Shelby.

SPEAKER_01:

So is this the biggest one? I'm just looking at the list now. I've got the uh the this year's baby boy bivold in front of me. Goes up to I mean, have you done like a World Cup? Have you expanded to the is it all about the money?

SPEAKER_00:

The Saudis have got involved.

unknown:

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, we must thank Turkey on our shake, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, by rehad season. It's um so it's been it's been sixty sixty players most years. Which means you can have a round of 32, but I can also put two more in who I think should have got through. Yeah. And sort of fixed it a little bit.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, Martin what Matt um what did it who did I vote for this year? Did you get in it actually? Defron Chancere, I voted for this year. Yeah, he got a lot of money. Yeah, got a couple of nominations, I imagine, but you know, he it I don't know. There's a lot of better choices here. It just look I'm not gonna read out everyone because like as you said, there's like 60 or whatever it is, but who's your favourite looking at this year's or who's the big strong contenders?

SPEAKER_02:

I was gonna say, do you want to go through the groups or do you want to just pick out highlights? Is that the is that the best way to do it? Well I'll tell you what, we'll do we'll do it then. It can be yeah. Yeah, if people do you want to go through them yourself, Major, or I can share the screen if you want me to put it on screen. I don't know if you've both got the the groups. I've I've got it in front of me here, but I've got them on my screen. Okay, no worries. So group A, we go Mary Herps, Elliot Anderson, Wrexham's Conor Code, and Barca's Marcus Rashford. I mean, I actually we probably shouldn't pick favourite, should we? Because because we certainly in terms of the major, we don't want to we don't want the public to try and keep him on side, I suppose.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh yeah, you've got to if if it's gonna you know I think corruption runs rife in all competitions. So I think I think we should lean into that, yeah. I think we should lean into that. My favourite in that one, I think, is because I think Elliot Anderson will go on to have a good career. I boss as Marcus Rasford for me, I think, in that group, just purely because he probably will only be there for a season.

SPEAKER_00:

It's very of the time, isn't it? Obviously, Mary's got the most nominations in the in the women's category because she's a woman that that some men have heard of.

SPEAKER_02:

What was the comment? If if you don't know women's players, don't mention one because Jill Scott will not be accepted.

SPEAKER_00:

A lot of the women's nominations. Somebody nominated a dinner lady, um, his niece who played for Halifax under 15s, and someone else was nominated mum. That's that's what we're dealing with.

SPEAKER_01:

It's hard to get to about ten women with the the standard of people who follow me on the uh I'm ashamed to say that I voted for uh Chloe Kelly because um just because of her run-ups more than anything else. I think I think I actually put Chloe Kelly and a ridiculous run-ups to penalties. So I tried to make it, but yeah, I went for Chloe Kelly and it is it's it's ridiculous in Route 1. Uh, group B, we've got Troy Parrot, which I'm not a big fan of because he's so recent. I know that's one of your bugbears, isn't it? The people who swim on TV last week. Yeah, I'm gonna vote for him. Uh John Philip Mateta, I'll be pronouncing a lot of these wrong, I would have thought. Burnley's Kyle Walker, and Strickley's Karen Carney. I think I'd go for Strickley's Karen Carney. That would be my choice, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and she won Strictly, so she could be on an unprecedented double.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Do you want to go group C, Liam?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. I wanna I wanna know which she'd be most proud of there, by the way, Karen Carney. It's hard to say, isn't it? But yeah, let's move on to see. So Scott McTominay, uh Evangelus Maranakus, uh Withenshaw's Papis Cise, uh, and Altringham's Charlie Kirk.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, Papi Csey won it in his um in his Newcastle days, 2012, he won it.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I didn't realise he was still playing if I'm gonna be completely honest. Yeah, um that is a tough one.

SPEAKER_00:

Open under 35s, over 35s. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

So I I would have liked, and I don't I don't know if you get any sort of intervention in terms of names. If it was called the Italian version of Scott McTominay, that would probably take my vote. Because I like how he's gone quite cool now.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, friend of the pub. I think Scott McTominay's the one of the favourites for me.

SPEAKER_01:

Really? I like Altringham's Charlie Kirk. I think to have that name in this particular year, that that's just that I think that's a strong outside of that.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, that's that's not the one I worried about. I don't want I obviously don't want him to win. He can go, but if he gets into the next round, he'll be up against somebody of high quality. Yeah, so it's gonna it's gonna be tough for him.

SPEAKER_01:

Group D, we've got um Oh, by the way, one of my favourite winners were uh Woke Weghurst, and I can't stop I I call him that now all the time, Woke Weghost. He's he's usually in everyone, but Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

I really like Weghurst as a player, by the way. Like without any irony. I I genuinely really liked him, so yeah, uh that was a good one for me, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh Group D, we've got big Nick, Waltermark, uh Florian Wirtz, Jemima Jemima Minge, and Andy Irvine. So I'm Irving, Irving, sorry.

SPEAKER_02:

Is Ming is is it Minge or Mingus? Does it only work if you pronounce it Minge? Is that is that the one?

SPEAKER_00:

I love to be pronouncing it minge, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah. I think you've got to pronounce it minge, and I think that's a clear winner in that group for me.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm a fan of Andy Irving because I hadn't heard of him, and he's a man who apparently plays for West Ham. Does he? And he's Scottish and they signed him from a team in Austria. And I don't think he actually exists.

SPEAKER_02:

I did not play a won it who didn't exist.

SPEAKER_01:

That would that would be amazing, yeah. That'd be absolutely yeah, brilliant, Matt, yeah. Yeah, that's interesting. That might have swung my vote on that one, actually. Andy Irvett is.

SPEAKER_02:

Let's go group B Hannahampton, don't know uh Mikel You don't know Hannah Hampton? No. Regan Linney and Van der Ven, uh or Mickey. You don't know Hannah hang on, hang on, whoa. You don't know Hannah Hampton. No, I don't c I can't. Again, it's a bit like previous episodes. I can't pretend to know things I don't know, unfortunately. It's the goalkeeper.

SPEAKER_01:

The Oh the one who replaced Earps. No, one of the most famous I think she finished third on sports personality of the year this year. Is it is it the one that the drama was around?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, she's the the one who the book was written about.

SPEAKER_01:

Right, yeah, very yeah. So oh that'd be a good one.

SPEAKER_02:

So yeah, so I actually that makes quite a strong contender that I didn't know her name, but I know the story. That that kind of works, I think.

SPEAKER_01:

Very sexist of you, if uh if I must say.

SPEAKER_02:

Well no, um, it works for both sexes.

SPEAKER_01:

All the all the genders. Yeah, fair enough. Um yeah, I think I I like yeah, I like Hannah Hampton in that one. Group F, Danny Wellbeck, which I think is a great shout because he has had this renaissance. I might have preferred it if it were Brighton's Danny Wellbeck, but still works. Stafford City Salford City is Fabio Berini, Kevin, and Psych Stout. So Sky Stout, sorry. Sky Stout, of course, Sky Stout, yeah. That runs I wouldn't ask you who that was. That's the girl who unfortunately went viral um for yeah with for her appearance, I b I believe.

SPEAKER_00:

She had women's acne. She had women's acne, that's correct, yeah. He gave her mental health and the competition to try and reclaim mental health for herself. I'd like her to win.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I'd like well I in that group though, I I have to go Kevin. Just purely because it's such a I mean, obviously no, he's a he's a full and player, but uh I when I'm not listening to radio or something like that, I'll say blah blah blah Sanderberger and he passes it to Harry Wilson and he is Kevin. He's Kevin. I was like, yeah, I mean I know these Brazilians have these sort of names, like Kevin's obviously makes me think of home alone, so for that points.

SPEAKER_02:

This is the group that I didn't like when I looked at it because this I'm not sure to me this captures the spirit of the baby boy byfield. These are just half decent players this year, so we've got Semenio, uh Ebertieza, uh Brian and Bueno, and Sam Kerr. It's gotta be Semenyo, I think, in that one.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, he's got a lot a lot of nominations, Semeno. I don't watch Bournemouth football, so I don't think he's he obviously plays for Arsenal now. Yeah. Played in the cup final. And Bueno is a bit fat, isn't he?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, he's a bit fat, but he's actually fat.

SPEAKER_00:

I don't think he actually is fat.

SPEAKER_01:

No, but he's been like he's been he's he's been fat for a while though. I don't know if that's a 2025 thing, to be fair. Going up to group eight, we've got Chloe Kelly, Kenny McLean, er, Criminals of Jamie Varde, and Jordan Henderson. I should have made this a bit bigger. I like I think Chloe Kelly's too obvious. Hmm. Jordan Henderson's a weird.

SPEAKER_02:

Henderson, yeah, I'm going Henderson.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, he's he's like he's had a bit of a comeback, hasn't he? He's like uh i i everyone still sort of dislikes him, but they've as they've had this sort of well he's like do you know what though? He's doing alright at Brentford, he's like one of those, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02:

There's almost like a bracket that should follow it that says tail between his legs after Middle Eastern escapade. Mmm. Yeah, but he's he's he's back. He's back and he's not.

SPEAKER_00:

I like Jamie. Well obviously I like Jamie Vardy as uh Italian man now. Jamie McName scored for Scotland, didn't he? That's why he's in there.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes, that I'll be thinking about why he came into it there, Kevin. That's that's a pretty strong group, though. Quite like that.

SPEAKER_00:

I like Jordan Henderson returning from Saudi Arabia.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, coming back into a bit of a you know, if we if England win the World Cup next year, and then this is 2025, he'll have some part to play, and that'll be a right, a proper turnaround from his, you know, selling out for all the money and all that sort of stuff.

SPEAKER_02:

So Yeah, we got group I we have Everton's Jack Grealish, one of my favourite footballers, um Igor Tiago, uh Ben Gannon Woke, and Alicia Russo.

SPEAKER_01:

I presume Russo's in there just because people can't think of many other women. Yeah, she's a woman and that's that's fine. Yeah, it's a woman and that and that's fine. In that one, I like Tiago in that one because I like Ben Gannon Woke as well, though.

SPEAKER_00:

It's quite a tough group, that one. I think I think Everton and Jack Greenlee should win it.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because people obviously vote for the most famous people sometimes, aren't they?

SPEAKER_00:

I didn't know who Tiago was, but he's sort of scoring goals in the first half of the season, isn't he?

SPEAKER_01:

Like I'm I'm liking your um complete disregard for the Premier League players in this for the most part, which I'm very very on board with.

SPEAKER_00:

It's mainly the National League and the EBAC Northern League Division 1.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, for people who don't know, you're a Carl Alfan, obviously yourself. I am, yeah. Yeah. It's going well though. It's not going bad. I know you were treading coming into the National League, but for your six.

SPEAKER_02:

That's the highlights of the uh how uh how many did you buy?

SPEAKER_00:

I refused.

unknown:

Oh, come on.

SPEAKER_01:

I liked it when I can't even remember what was it the FA trophy and you didn't even know the rules of like where the where you know how this worked, this trophy, because obviously um yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I meant to ask if there's regionalisation in the tournament and I accidentally said segregation.

SPEAKER_01:

Group J, we've got Daniel Puff Puff Turner, and I'm I'm struggling with that one, I have to admit. Um Sky Sports Halo, that's a good one. Not as good as Chris Wood, obviously last year's winner. An Irish Cape Verde player. Um I like Sky Sports Halo.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm leaning towards Irish Cape Verde players straight away. I really like that. Yeah, but for sure, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Daniel Daniel Puff Puff Turner is a a groundhopper.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, I know you mean, I know you mean. Yeah, sorry.

SPEAKER_00:

Last year he's a he's a good sport, but he spends his life on 3G pitches watching children's football and taking them off.

SPEAKER_01:

I like Sky Sports Halo because it lasted for a week.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it's a bit of a group of death that. Yeah, that is a tough one. One where two non footballers will get through.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I like the non footballers.

SPEAKER_02:

Group K, so I'm gonna start by the way, probably my winner for the tournament Sunderland's Granite Shaka. This is good, that's a tough yeah. I call KOD, uh, Mark Gaye and Ashley Young's son. Oh, actually, Ashley Young's son's a good shout, but I'm I'm scratch jacket for me.

SPEAKER_01:

Didn't Ashley Young's son come out last year?

SPEAKER_00:

I didn't pick up, so it was it was right at the start of the year.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, that's right, January. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because everyone was fuming with Darren Ferguson. Yeah, they'd bring him on right at the end or like for the last. No, they didn't, and everyone were going, how dare they not get on this? That would have been one of the wokest things that's could have happened, I think, if you'd have brought him on just to play against his dad, to be completely honest. Um Group L.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I agree with Granny Jacker, he's a good contender.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I think he probably should be not far away, really, but obviously the public will speak.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, we'll see how they do up in Sunderland, whether they engage with him.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, so we can get him to win. Uh Group L is Anj Poskic. I can't never say it, but everyone knows I mean. Big Anj, basically. Uh Dagenham's Andy Carroll, which I didn't actually know about. Um a TK, whether he's called from Liverpool. TK. And and Baller League's Masked Pro, which I do know a little bit like this from my Sins, but um I I don't really want to get involved in the I don't want the Baller League personally to get involved in the byfield.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it's sort of master's football for for walker people, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, it's it's you know, it's not aimed at me, but it doesn't mean I don't I can still hate it.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, was there some sort of story around Dagenham's Andy Carroll where it actually costs him money to play football now or something? That he's he's so out of the way.

SPEAKER_00:

Well that was last season when he was Border's Andy Carroll. Right, or something. Yeah, that was Border's Andy Carroll.

SPEAKER_02:

Right. Yeah, I'm behind the times of that one.

SPEAKER_01:

Apologies. I think Big Andrews are really good one in this, although he's obviously a really famous manager. He's won the European Europa League, but being also been sacked twice in one year. Well, since May, however it was.

SPEAKER_00:

Can a manager win it? That's the question. A manager's never won it before. Never no manager's ever won it. No.

SPEAKER_02:

That doesn't surprise me. It's hard because you have to sort of guess what's coming next, don't you? It's whether he goes on to do anything or or did he peak. Have we seen peak big ange in which case he's a strong contender? Does he go on to do more?

SPEAKER_01:

I know they're retrospective sort of awards, but I thought Big Sam England manager might have won them. Big Sam with a full pint of wine, I think, would have been a show.

SPEAKER_00:

Big Sam.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Group M we go Isak, uh Dan Bollard, uh Max Bauman, is it? Dauman? I can't read that one. Alfie Whiteman.

SPEAKER_00:

He's a child apparently who plays for Arsenal. Really? I don't know him.

SPEAKER_02:

No, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00:

No, I didn't know him either, but apparently they've got a child who plays.

SPEAKER_02:

Maybe for that reason.

SPEAKER_00:

Alfie Whiteman. He was um Tottenham's goalkeeper, well, fourth choice goalkeeper. And he he watches films and reviews them on the internet and he's retired from football to pursue a career in photography.

SPEAKER_01:

I didn't know that. I think I've got Dan I think I might go Dan Ballard. I don't know if you had talked about where Michael Grey suggested that Dan Ballard should be called up for England even though he's got like 32 caps for Northern Ireland. But yeah, so I'd like to call him uh England's Dan Ballard as well, if if we could have changed that, but yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

I think it yeah, if we can have Essach's record breaking transfer fee. Because that does feel like very sort of it's just not working. Do you see uh Simon Jordan had to backtrack because he was seen to be sort of gloating in his failure because he forced to move. Gloating his injury.

SPEAKER_01:

It was the other one who had gloating out. Uh Rob Edwards, wasn't it? The other one who had gloating out because he's obviously doing absolutely shy moves. And he was just, well, that's him right. Well that doesn't sound like that at all, does it? Uh anyway, uh Grim.

SPEAKER_00:

Simon Jordan could have been a contender back in the day. So it's 2005.

SPEAKER_01:

I think when he first came on with Jim White, that would have been a real strong shout that, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah. Simon Jordan buying Palace would have been a a very byfield moment for me. Or actually walking away with nothing as a sort of principle. He's he sort of he holds that as a as a beacon of sort of his integrity that he didn't take any money as he left.

SPEAKER_01:

They took it to the money.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. It's uh yeah, did Richard Keyes ever win out? Keesy was a was a good shout, but Charlie Adam won it instead.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, that's I bet he'd be genuinely gutted about that. I'd love to have seen Keyes involved in that, because obviously um go on, Dimitri Mitchell. Yeah. Yeah, he he got massively got involved in one year, didn't I?

SPEAKER_00:

He did he was in he got through this quarterfinals and then he then he took over. He wanted to win. People thought it was controversial, but I think there's nothing more baby boy byfield than getting involved to try and win it, yeah, sums it up.

SPEAKER_01:

And I think at first he were a bit I think he actually tweeted something along the lines of uh is this a piss take or is it real?

SPEAKER_00:

I don't I still don't think he understands it.

SPEAKER_02:

I don't think he understood anything, but I I think it's a bit like sort of what I said on the Christmas episode that I'd tell the kids about. So I don't know if if you believe in it, it's real. That if you believe in the magic, it's there, but you have to believe in it.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Group N, Michelle Agimang, Agimang, Marco Bizzot, Estravo, and John Joe Shelve.

SPEAKER_00:

Well I'm pronouncing uh um Ann, sorry, yeah. I didn't know who Marco Bigot Bigot was. Bigot might be a bigot.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, Big yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Apparently Unay Emory just said his name a lot in a press conference. That's like in it.

SPEAKER_01:

That's in it. John Joe Shelby obviously famously came out and started saying England was shit because um he wouldn't let his and then did he go to Saudi Arabia or did he go to U.S. Dubai? Dubai, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he he basically had a go at Storm's Britain and then and then left to Dubai and it were absolutely nothing to do with the fact he couldn't get a club in England.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, he plays in the Dubai second division.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I mean, you know, um he once scored it actually at Bramble Lane, that that goal of yeah, I don't know if you remember it, um, where it was one of the first VAR controversies, the first VAR season where all our players had stopped and he carried on running through and tapped it in, and then obviously, because everyone thought we were offside, and then VAR brought it back. Terrible anecdote. Liam.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, let's go, Group O, final group. Um and actually at this point, just because it's next to the bit I'm reading out, you can donate to the uh addiction family support if if you choose to do that. I think there's a lot of the only thing I'd say is like you you sort of create this world where there's quite a lot of pressure in donating because I think there's some genuinely really funny comments in the people who've donated. It's quite hard to donate without thinking of something quite wrong.

SPEAKER_00:

And some dreadful ones. Basically, people people donate so that so that I'll tweet the donations, people donate under under silly names and and things like that.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I've I've read a few today, but someone referred to you as uh Twitter Funny Man, I think, straight away, which I thought yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah. Are you a favourite? There's been some good ones.

SPEAKER_02:

You've got Pauline Fowler you weren't happy with though, were you? That that didn't go down well.

SPEAKER_00:

Which one?

SPEAKER_02:

Pauline Fowler, I think.

SPEAKER_00:

No, well I I hate Pauline Fowler. I do an episode on Pauline Fowler, which is good. Do you know what?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, we could pencil that indefinitely.

SPEAKER_00:

The most vile woman ever to exist. Well, I mean, could you hate women? No, women who've killed people. Lucy Lady people like that.

SPEAKER_01:

But honestly, Pauline Pauline Fowler, is she that bad?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, vile. A bit of a snake in the grass, weren't she? Like a bit of a backstab.

SPEAKER_00:

She died Christmas Day 2006. And every Christmas day I celebrate that. I watched that on 50 weeks. Seeing her die alone in the square. It's one of the best things that's ever happened. And she was horrible.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't remember it being that bad. I'm I'm absolutely taking your word for it.

SPEAKER_02:

We'll have to pencil in an episode on that, and you will see the thing. Yeah, last group, and and again, don't you don't have to be hilarious to donate. Uh you're more likely to get a retweet. So yeah, do do what you can do. Grupo, Dan Byrne, uh, Victor Jocharez, uh, Lamin Yamal, and Tierno Barry. I don't know Tierno Barry.

SPEAKER_00:

He played he plays for Everton and I believe he's not scored.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, I do know what you mean. I do know what you mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do know what you mean.

SPEAKER_00:

I don't know why Yamal's been nominated, because he's he's obviously too good.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, and I don't think he's peaked yet, so I think he's he's got further to go. Yocharez. Yeah, I kinda get it.

SPEAKER_00:

I think he's he's not quite I think he might be a bit of an outsider, Yocharez. Yeah. Is he good or is he shit? Yeah, we don't know, do we?

SPEAKER_02:

We don't we're not sure. Uh and down Dan Byrne. Yeah, I can see that.

SPEAKER_01:

So Well Dan Byrne had that fantastic week, didn't he? Where they Yeah, Dan Byrne had that fantastic week where Newcastle won the League Cup, then he got called up for England, and then he like won a header or something like that, and everyone's said, What a week this man's having. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I saw Dan Byrne once at uh at a Sam Fender concert and went back to back with him to see if I was taller than him. And I wasn't. You wasn't? Oh no way. I was very close. He didn't know I was going back to back with him, but there is a picture of me back to back with Dan Byrne.

SPEAKER_02:

And just for reference, you are seven foot four, are you?

SPEAKER_00:

Seven foot four, yeah. I'm over six foot five.

SPEAKER_02:

And uh Red Brick University educated, obviously.

SPEAKER_00:

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01:

So yeah, that's the groups. Okay, take us through as well. The first ever um Cybermark Peter K impersonated Baby Boy Byfield Memorial Gimmick Battle Royal.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, so basically there's people don't nominate sort of gimmick people, don't they? But it's slightly too many. They often do better than they should. So this year I've just put them all in one group. Well not all of them.

SPEAKER_02:

The first choice on that is absolutely fantastic, by the way.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Well, so it's it's still unemployed Henry Winter. We've there last year as unemployed Henry Winter. Yeah, still. One of my favourites, though, yeah. And you just sort of everyone everyone knows Henry Winter, he's uh English Tim Vickery is and he talks about English football rather than Brazilians and all that sort of thing, and he he just he tweets like tweets there about a thousand words long.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I've seen a lot of him. He's absolutely lost it.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I've seen a lot of him recently.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, he does a bit of a stuff on Talk Sport.

SPEAKER_02:

He did the he did the Rashford interview as well, where he sort of put it out there he wanted to leave. That that's one of the few things he's done of note recently, I think.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, so he's although he's he is employed by Talksport.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, but I'm I'm guessing it's Perge play. I I don't think he has a a weekly contract. He's not Brian Glenden, is he?

SPEAKER_01:

He's not there if he's not gonna be, you know, Barry.

SPEAKER_02:

I can't believe you've forgotten Barry Glenden's name.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh what's oh it's Brian in it? No, Barry. No, what is it, Barry? What did I call him?

SPEAKER_02:

Brian.

SPEAKER_01:

Twice. Alright. Anyway, Barry Glen Denning, yeah. So you've got still an unemployed Henry Winter, a woke football sticker, big haired Man United fan, and Graham Potter face swap. This that do you know what? That is fucking hell.

SPEAKER_00:

It's a bit of a droop of death, isn't it? Yeah. And it it pays tribute to Simon Mark, who was a Peter K impersonator who died this year. Yeah. Yeah. He was a great man. A lot of people donated in his name last year. Oh, really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

What's the other one called? Lee Lard? Lee Lard is a little bit. Lee Lard, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

So Simon Mark obviously copied Peter Kay pretty pretty well, actually.

SPEAKER_02:

Simon Mark, who did the kind of full set as Peter K, was that am I right thinking that he just did the.

SPEAKER_00:

No, that was something else, that was a third one. That was Peter K just Peter K, which was a man who did it at his his mum's his mum's birthday party. Right, okay. There's a 40-minute video on YouTube of him doing Peter K.

SPEAKER_02:

So Simon Mark did his own material as Peter K then?

SPEAKER_00:

No, so Peter Simon Mark did Peter K material. He was a full-on tribute actor, he was going around the world, cruise ships. Right, okay. Lelard, there's a Lelard video on YouTube and he he sort of started with Peter K material. And then he came out came out and said that Bradford was full of Muslims.

SPEAKER_01:

What? He's just out of nowhere. Sure, it transits if it's like a Jim Davidson sort of like tribute in terms of the city.

SPEAKER_02:

I think that's one of Peter K's sort of hidden sets, isn't it? That Bradford Muslim sketch. You've seen them all, seen them all around here.

SPEAKER_01:

Who remembers them?

SPEAKER_02:

But that's a fantastic one.

SPEAKER_01:

Do they go through then to the knockout stage of the battle?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, one of them will go through.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh wow. Well I'll tell you what then, that that could actually be the dark horse, couldn't it?

SPEAKER_00:

I'd like to see Henry Winter do well. Just for his own sanity.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm wanting to acknowledge this as well. I'd love I'd love him to because I think you get a thousand.

SPEAKER_02:

The big haired Man United fan though seems very kind of Because that that can only be current once.

SPEAKER_01:

So so that's I don't know, Man United never wins. I could go on for years. No, but I think he's at his moment now.

SPEAKER_02:

I don't think it matters now when he cuts his hair. Well unless he's got a big thing.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, he's had his moment when they won about they won like three games in a row and that was his that was his peak.

SPEAKER_02:

The Graham Potter face swap is fantastic. I think he's moved on to Tommy Robinson now, the face swap manager.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I think he's done a lot of Tommy Robinson ones as well. Very similar for Mr. Graham Potter and Tommy Robinson. Uh famous like. But yeah, so that is this year's baby boy byfield group stage, and it's been I I'm conscious of that time, so it's been fantastic to have you on here, and I really, really do appreciate it. And we'll be retweeting and we'll be sharing it. And do you want to say anything yourself? Um to to do any last-minute promotions or anything?

SPEAKER_00:

I just want to say that I'm I'm glad Pauline Fowler's dead. And if you'd like to if you'd like to donate, it is justgiving.com forward slash baby boy by field.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, and by the way, like it I know it is sort of all a bit tongue in cheek, but but it does raise a lot of money for charities. Is it it is a really sort of positive thing that you've done, and and yeah, I whether you get it, whether you don't, whether you sort of take it very seriously or you sort of see the irony in it, it it's become an incredible tradition.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, most people a lot of people get it, some people don't. I don't fully get it. I take it far too seriously.

SPEAKER_01:

Where does it take you?

SPEAKER_00:

Sorry?

SPEAKER_01:

How long does it take you to put it together?

SPEAKER_00:

I don't understand how spreadsheets work, so it was hours, days, weeks trying to count people and making graphics with Microsoft Paint and learning how to do all these things.

SPEAKER_02:

I wonder if one year we'll we'll get Twitter Twitter funny man's unpaid contribution to the baby boy by field.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I should get the money really.

SPEAKER_02:

That's a good point actually, that's so you should get nominated one year. It can't become self-aware though, can it? Do you remember when you told me something about the end of biker growth, they become self-aware or something? It can't. If it gets to that, I'm out.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

You can't be C man. Thank you so so so so much for that.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, we we would love to have you back for uh for a full episode at some point of your choice. Pauling Fowler. You can you can steer that, yeah, it can be Pauling Fowler, it can be the Major Charles I don't know if you want to say scandal, because that implies something was done wrong, which I I suspect you don't believe. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, there's lots of do a third Mike Parry episode. Oh yeah. Oh yes.

SPEAKER_02:

There's always room for a Mike Parry episode.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, you could just do him from this year for some of the shit that he comes out of on Jeremy Vine Show, to be honest. He's injured his own.

SPEAKER_00:

That was how I discovered the podcast in the first place. I was looking for Mike Parry's podcast, and you'd done one about him.

SPEAKER_02:

I think you're you're like me as well, aren't you? I think you go back to the two mics sort of every now and again just to dip back into that. I I absolutely love some of their old content.

SPEAKER_00:

It was the greatest double act that's ever lived.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, if it was football related, Mike Graham himself could have been nominated, but he has unfortunately has nothing to do with football after his his uh yeah his year of controversy.

SPEAKER_00:

He's had a big year.

SPEAKER_01:

He has had a big year indeed. Right, thank you very much, Joe. Um and thank you, Liam. And yeah, get voting.

SPEAKER_02:

Uh we'll share all the links, obviously, and everything, and give uh the major a follow, but he'll only follow you by we'll certainly add 1% at least to your voting numbers, so yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I will say please please do not follow me on Twitter. I don't want any more followers.

SPEAKER_02:

And you absolutely don't follow him on Twitter on unfunny responses to anything, do you? That is something I think.

SPEAKER_00:

I detest most people.

SPEAKER_02:

So Yeah. Don't follow him and vote. Don't follow him and vote. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Thank you very much, Joe.

SPEAKER_01:

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00:

Thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_01:

Cheers, guys, that's good. Thank you very much. We've only got like a minute left because we don't pay too cheap. Yeah, we're gonna. So I just really like very cheers so much for that, Joe. I really, really do appreciate it. If you want to come on and talk about Pauline Fowler, we will have to open the floor up to you and you can uh tell us all the the misdeeds that she's done.

SPEAKER_00:

I enjoyed that.

SPEAKER_02:

You could do yeah, you could just do an hour monologue on Pauline Fowler and where she went wrong if you wanted. That'd be uh unique episode. But no, no, genuinely we we we really do appreciate that and uh yeah, thank you very much. And and and we're not just saying it, you're welcome on any any time you want. Just give us a shout and you can come on and do you could almost test us and try that out if you want to throw something ridiculous at us to say, right, let's let's see if the we're as good as the word.

SPEAKER_00:

I am a super fan of the podcast. Thank you very much.

SPEAKER_02:

I think most people are just don't think they listen. That's the problem. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Right, we're gonna go to like ten seconds left. So thank you guys, thank you very much. All the best. Thank you for listening to Who Remembers. If you want to get in touch with it, you can find us at WhorremembersPulAmble.com. If you want to write link to it, you can find us on Twitter at Who RemembersPullet. Or if you're a woken up, you can find us on BlueSkin at WhoRemembersPods. Once again, thank you for listening, and we will see you next time for more remembering.