WHO REMEMBERS? The UK Nostalgia Podcast
A nostalgia trip for anyone in the UK who grew up on dial-up Internet, Findus Crispy Pancakes, and playground rumours that couldn’t be fact-checked online. We’re not historians — we don’t do dates, and we barely do facts — but science says reminiscing gives your brain a dopamine hit, so think of us as your weekly dose of hazy memories, childhood flashbacks, and confidently misremembered events.
Expect frequent arguments about who remembers things properly as we rummage through the UK’s collective memory box.
WHO REMEMBERS? The UK Nostalgia Podcast
Who Remembers........2025?
A year that felt like a shrug still gave us more to laugh about than we expected. We start with brutal honesty—2025 gets a solid six out of ten—then sift the moments that made it strangely memorable: norovirus advisories that told you not to visit hospitals because “everyone’s ill,” bumblebee declines that quietly threaten our breakfasts, and the delicate line between a sharp heckle and a derailed gig. Along the way we tussle with AI that suggests designs it refuses to make, unpack why “neutral” TV hosts feel suspiciously synthetic, and revisit a stand-up hour that swaps belly laughs for brand power.
Summer delivers the good stuff. Oasis sound better than nostalgia should allow, the Lionesses grind their way to a Euros title that rewards patience over polish, and Coldplay accidentally spark a viral not-a-couple kiss. We also sit with loss—those artists and icons who felt permanent until they weren’t—and admit that sometimes a playlist hits harder the morning after the headline. If the grand narratives dodged us, live shows and shared screens stepped in, reminding us why crowds matter.
Then we go gloriously local. A football owner’s pyrotechnic pressers and collapsing cake, a front page celebrating a city street for being “the best it’s been in five years,” and an annual quiz decided by a furious debate: can whales jump higher than mountain lions? Add a delayed roadshow, a wildly amplified breathing mic, and the Saviours bracket that crowned a winner we’ll argue about until next year, and you’ve got the flavour of a year built from tiny stakes and big laughs. Hit play for a warm, sceptical, and very human rewind of 2025. If it made you smirk, share it with a friend. And if you shouted “mountain lion,” leave us a review and tell us why you’re right.
Hello and welcome to Who Remembers, the UK nostalgia podcast. And in this week's chapter start, we are asking Who Remembers 2025?
SPEAKER_00:Here we are, the end of year review.
SPEAKER_01:We've made it again, another year.
SPEAKER_00:Another year in the uh said we won in the They tried to cancel us, but here we are. We did it.
SPEAKER_01:They've been trying to cancel us all year. It's uh actually this is the first year of this particular podcast, which we'll get on to later, but how are you, Liam, anyway? Have you had a good year? We always I think I asked you this privately quite often, man. I think I asked you this year, what what uh rating are you giving you your year?
SPEAKER_00:Er out of ten. Yeah, out of ten. I mean I'm I'm a bit of a pessimist anyway, in a sense that I think a lot of people think like when they're judging footballs you start at six. I th I think you start at five. So I think this year it's probably been a six and a half or seven. It's it's it's it's been decent, it's not trying to think what it is like.
SPEAKER_01:I think five out of ten, nothing's changed. Let's move on. Well, it's another year in the yeah, another year in the bag, you know. Let's just let's just carry on. I think that's what most people's years are like, to be fair. Not offer you get like a life-changing thing, good or bad, really, is it?
SPEAKER_00:So you're talking me into sort of more like a six, I think.
SPEAKER_01:A break by end of podcasts. Well, it's been a one, on it. It's been a one, it's been it's been a washout. So what we're gonna do today is go through the year that was 2025 from January. We're gonna go for every month, from January to December, and go through the things that well, I'm gonna say all the ones, I'm gonna say the things that caught our eye, but I think you've had this same problem. We've both done sort of independent research, and we have done a little bit of research.
SPEAKER_00:You use that word very loosely, don't we, Reese?
SPEAKER_01:Very loosely. Nothing genuinely, this has been a five out of ten year. Nothing's happened.
SPEAKER_00:I I'm down to five and a half, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's going down to five and a half already. Nothing's happened this year. If anyone can think of anything that we've missed in this, Lesla. Honestly, I don't think anything's happened this year.
SPEAKER_00:I actually if if anybody can think of anything that we've missed, as if we're gonna cover everything that everybody's got.
SPEAKER_01:I don't think any I right, surprises, give us something that we've missed. That we're gonna, oh, I can't believe we didn't mention that. I think it's gotta be something I don't know if there will be, because I I've looked long than hard on Wikipedia and nothing's happened this year.
SPEAKER_00:Right, well, let's see, let's get into it. Let's kick off with January, Liam. Come on, notes and my notes, and you've not seen my notes because I ain't seen your notes. Um yeah, so I mean I suppose this when we say it's a five out of ten years, this is probably probably a start that suggests it should be worse than that. But the the first note you've made from January is that the Noravirus sweeps through the UK.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it did. Can you remember it? Uh, did you get it?
SPEAKER_00:No, I don't think it did back in January now. I think I think oh yeah, maybe maybe actually, yeah, maybe, maybe.
SPEAKER_01:Well, obviously with all these things, don't come to hospital, everyone's sick, which is brilliant. I love that when hospitals do that. Don't come here because everyone's ill. Yeah, but no, that's what they're there for.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that's what they're being treated for, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:It'd be mad if everyone were like really hell. It's a great hospital place. No one's ever ill.
SPEAKER_00:As a family, we had an iller end of the year than the start of the year. We definitely kind of got more colds and coughs and things later.
SPEAKER_01:I had it. I had it. Um, it might be recency bias, though. I've always thought this was neurovirus, albeit when you when you're spewing. After a while, I always get this thought of my head after like when you've done it for about five, six hours and there's nothing more coming up, you think well, this this is clearly not a god. This is clearly proof because no god would put his his child through this. And I always think that. No offence to anyone religious out there, that's just what comes to my head.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, no offence to anyone last experience experiencing or worse things than that in the life.
SPEAKER_01:I don't think there is anything worse. I think if you had to do that, if you had to do that 24-7, spewing, I think you just well, what's what is the point of this now? I've put your head out to four out of ten already.
SPEAKER_00:Do you know what I think there's a bit though where he sort of I mean it's a Carl Pilkinson quote, but he kind of likes being ill because then you you kind of experience being better again, like almost you remember what you're saying.
SPEAKER_01:You sort of get that, but I don't think it's a lot of people.
SPEAKER_00:And I think we've like an aurovirus as well. You feel it's kind of like a detox, but it's like an imposed detox. You don't get any say in it.
SPEAKER_01:I think what I don't like about norovirus is it does take a bit of a while though to get everything back, you know, your electrices back and all that sort of stuff. A good week and a half after where you're thinking, I'm I'm still not with it here. I'm still you've you've emptied everything out. It's it's such a it's such a mad way of like getting rid of the crap. It's just like oh it's awful, awful.
SPEAKER_00:It's probably a good time to do it though, January, after the excess of December.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, I could do it now, I'll tell you what. I'll put some weight on mate, let me tell you. Oh yeah. But that's just but I'd literally just said I was looking fat, which is a ironic considering you know, quadruple art surgery because of his weight, but you know, I'm not gonna say that to him. I I did say that to him.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I mean, he's I I'm trying to say, is he in good shape or not? I hadn't seen enough of him recently. And occasionally he's in the picture of a non-champ manager, is he not? Is he not in good shape?
SPEAKER_01:He's not in he's not in good shape. He's not in I'm making it out like he's the biggest man in the world. He's not that bad, but no, but he basically got a second chance. As uh someone at our work who's sadly no longer with us, actually. Uh I don't know why I'm laughing at that, but he once said uh someone who had heart surgery got a second chance and they carried on drinking and smoking and died. And he were he was furious about that. And I and my dad's sort of gone on the same way. He doesn't smoke and he don't really drink, but he likes his food, he likes his food, my dad.
SPEAKER_00:And uh heroin addict as well, isn't he?
SPEAKER_01:He's also an heroin addict, and yeah, he's a junkie, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, no, he's he's not a uh he just is addicted to playing football manager on his phone. Um your next note, so I like this one and I don't remember it if I'm honest, which is rare for us and for me, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So a Chinese man refused to sell his house to make way for a new motorway. Uh, and he ended up stranded in the middle of the four-lane bypass. Uh his name was Huang Ping, and he was offered 180,000. I mean, you've put pounds, but I don't know if you've converted that from native currency.
SPEAKER_01:You can't convert that into the euro. You can convert that into the pound.
SPEAKER_00:He declined thinking a better offer would follow, uh, but it did not. I do regret it a bit, he admitted. If I could turn back time, I would agree to the demolition. Um now it feels like a lost a big bet. He chanced on it, didn't he? He gambled.
SPEAKER_01:Yes. So I've seen this guy's house, he's in China, and it just proper I imagine you doing this because you're a very stubborn man. He was just obviously got to everyone going, look, we are gonna build this. Nope, I am not moving. Did no I'm no moving, you cannot move, mate. And I've seen his house now, and he's literally in the middle of like a motorway.
SPEAKER_00:Mad is it's just him on his own. M62 is a similar situation, but I think the difference there was that the the farmer just sort of said out of principle, I'm not moving. The difference here is that he was okay with it, he just assumed they were gonna offer him more money and they didn't.
SPEAKER_01:Do you know why we should do an episode on that to talk to farmers? Tony Martin, remember him?
SPEAKER_00:Tony Martin. Shot that's gonna be.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was like a like it were like outrage because he was just defending his property. He was massive, Tony Martin, for a little bit. Probably the number. Tony Martin. So that's January done. We've done all. Oh, sorry, sorry, go on, come on, come on, hit me.
SPEAKER_00:So I asked, I suppose this is again, we might be knocking the year down to a four out of ten here, but I asked AI to tell me the highlights of the year for a lighthearted podcast. And the two things it's come up for January are Bulgaria and Romania finally joined the Schengen area, uh, which is a great excuse to joke about border control queu disappearing.
SPEAKER_02:Brilliant.
SPEAKER_00:This this is what Bulgarians is not creating comedy podcasts uh up to date, anyway. And uh this is big news for for some people. So Lichenstein legalised same-sex marriage, and it says tiny country, big vibes.
SPEAKER_01:That's a bit of a weird thing to yeah, big big vibes. Um I did not know that that I mean I think it's part of the old Soviet lads, innit? So it's not a surprise that it's taking this long. Um bit that you know, as they always say, they would they would just follow the wheel.
SPEAKER_00:I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:It's one of them, let's be honest. And and I know people like to try and sound like, oh, you know, I you know, I'm I'm really I I don't like to disrespect other countries. No one really knows where Liechtenstein and Latvia and no one really knows the difference. No, they kind of know roughly where it's a bit different, but that's only because they're good at football. No one really knows, you know what I mean? Like West Serb, Serbia, Montenegro, it's all Yugoslavia, that in it. I'm pretty sure Liechtenstein is um I'm not even gonna look. I'm not even gonna look. That's how much I don't care. Is that what you're January done?
SPEAKER_00:That's January done. We move on to February, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:February. So Bumblebees, who's reported in February, have reported to have fallen to their lowest number on record, declining by almost a quarter in 2024, uh, compared to the 2010 to 2023 average. And I want to ask you as a science and nature man, and we'll get onto this more in detail, like your science and nature skills, but is that a sad thing that bumblebees may be dying out?
SPEAKER_00:So bees in general, yeah, we need them to pollinate crops and uh yeah. I don't I don't actually know what a bumblebee does. It's a good question, though. I should know I should know that. I think like honey bees.
SPEAKER_01:Obviously, no one like no one needs a wasp, do they? Everyone hates wasps.
SPEAKER_00:Ah, wasps do a lot of behind-the-scenes work though, don't they? Like I think I think you need wasps, but yeah, I don't I don't know why you'd have a big like a honey bee, fine. I don't know why you have like a big fluffy version of a bee. What what is that for? I've never really thought about that. Let me do some live research.
SPEAKER_01:No live research. Well, I'll tell you an anecdote about a wasp batch though, but it might have been a bee. It might have been a bee. When I was really young, there were a bee flying round my head and I'm like waffing it around and like you do. Well, mongoose, look, if you just stay really still, it won't, it'll just go away. And it uh sung me in the ear I had to go to the hospital. So, yeah, yeah. That were only last year.
SPEAKER_00:A bumblebee is a member of the genus Bombus, which includes over 250 species. Robust and hairy insects characterised by black and yellow orange stripes. So it's just kind of bees. So yeah, it is important that we we do need the bees. We do we condone bees and we condemn the reduction of bees.
SPEAKER_01:Bring back the bumblebees. Another big story was um someone shouted garlic bread at a Peter K gig, um, and his son, her and her son was dragged out by security, leaving them, and I'm quotated quotation marks here, covered in bruisers. And I think this can you remember this? She was just shouting it all gig by the sound of it, and Peter K were going, I've had an oof now. I've had uh that's a terrible Peter K impression. I've had have an oof, have I had an oof for that? What was that?
SPEAKER_00:A noof, um an oof, Golly. You've said that you've said that a lot snar, love. All right, oh yeah, I don't know. We're not ending this year on good impressions. I can only do all right, Peter K.
SPEAKER_01:No, but yeah, would you I mean I'd be at gigs and stuff where people say him?
SPEAKER_00:I think I think we discussed, I think it was actually the end of the previous year, it wasn't 2025, but yeah, I can see there's a there's a difference between a a heckle that kind of is a bit of engagement with a comedian and someone who's just ruining it for everyone else. Yeah. The best bit about that is covered in bruises. Covered in bruises. Why why would they be covered in bruises? Do you think they were just after some sort of claim there?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do, I do, I do, I do think that. I think they were just after some claim. As a heck, the only heckle I've ever seen well, not a heckle. I'm trying to think here. Do you know when someone tries to derail a gig? That's different, as you said, to a heckle. Obviously, we I don't know if you mentioned it on this podcast before. We've been to a comedy gig with a guy called Simon Jenkins. And um he he was talking throughout the gig because the comedian were a bit shit, and he were mumbling, and he were like, And he goes, What you gotta say, mate? What you got to say? comedian said, and he went, he goes, What are you talking about? He goes, Zombies, and it threw him and he said what? He goes, Zombiz.
SPEAKER_00:He saved my bacon again. We might have mentioned it. I was talking. I think actually that was like an early night out for me and Jody that I'm not sure, but I I think I was sat talking to Jody and he sort of said, Yeah, all right, guys. Um, yeah, I'm trying to do a gig up here. What you're talking about is so important. And I thought, oh no. He was looking at me, but because Jenkins was sat in front of us, yeah, just jumped straight in. Zombies.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, brilliant. Just he didn't know what to do, did he?
SPEAKER_01:It genuinely did ruin his gig. I felt a little bit sorry for him because he could not get back on board.
SPEAKER_00:He weren't good before that though, was he? Really?
SPEAKER_01:He was he were poor, he were really poor. I went to see James Acaster this year, and um he I can't remember what he said, he said something about yeah, and I'm with his child, and something goes pedo like that in background. And all the way through the gig, everything he said that could be resorted to that uh that related to him being a pedo, people were shouting that. But he he handled it well, he did he he went along with it and he got by it fine. He said like he had to the material that he had planned all changed because he was thinking about what you were gonna say, and because I can't say that anymore because you're gonna all gonna shout pedo. So can work, can work, and it's probably that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, can be can work.
SPEAKER_00:The only AI generated things. I mean, again, bearing in mind I told it to talk about light heart things for a podcast. I mean, fair enough. Uh we don't watch this, but uh some of our American friends do. So Philadelphia Eagles won the Super Bowl.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Uh they beat the Chiefs 40 22. Perfect for sports banter, dynasty deny jokes and half-time show takes. I I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:Is it the half-time show? Oh, it was the half-time show.
SPEAKER_00:I was gonna say Robbie Williams, but didn't he do something in Saudi Arabia?
SPEAKER_01:He's nowhere near big enough in America to do a half-time show. No, I know I know it's just doing it. I know we've got a lot of Robbie Williams fans. I know Berlin Blade Major will be, you know, what you talk about. He's if we're all going to be honest, guys, he's not big enough to do the Super Bowl. He might come again.
SPEAKER_00:He might come again. Yeah, no, I don't I don't know what that was. And the only other thing it's decided from February, uh, according to one recap, you could riff on how January felt like a warm-up, and February went full ESPN in terms of sports headlines.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know what that means really. It was Kendrick Lamar. It was Kendrick Lamar.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, still means nothing to me. I I just can't get into it. I'd love to. I might try again. Uh Super Bowl. NFL.
SPEAKER_01:Right, uh Liam, tell us about March, mate.
SPEAKER_00:March. Um Yeah, I mean this it's an interesting one. We've we've got to be careful what we say on this one because we have been people have pointed out that our podcast ended quite quickly after this, but we did reveal in March that uh Dave Jones was essentially an AI generated character that he didn't actually say.
SPEAKER_01:You have to explain who he is because no one will know who he is by that name as we as we yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so well even even when I do, like within 30 seconds you won't know who he is. But so the guy who uh does most Sundays uh I'd say on Sky Sports, uh is the sort of main studio he does a lot of Monday night football as well, most of those is is impossible to define by his features. Um he's just a kind of a good presenter, a good all-round keeps the show moving, keeps everyone talking, doesn't offer too much in the way of an opinion. And yeah, we we put it out there that potentially if you were gonna create the kind of perfect AI presenter, you would end up quite close to that. And yeah, we uh we I've got to sort of speak coming tracks here. We of our own uh decisions decided to end our podcast not too long after that one and read.
SPEAKER_01:Well it was literally the it was literally the last episode that we did other than the final show. Can't say much about that, obviously. Things have been said, things have been, you know. Uh I think, you know, someone messaged him. I do know they sent me a screenshot of um that they messaged Dave Jones and said, these two guys are on to you. This is genuine, by the way.
SPEAKER_00:Did he put back a laughing face, which is exactly what you're doing?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he put back a laughing face. And then all I'm saying is that the final episode came, you know, not so long after.
SPEAKER_00:So yeah, but we we re-badged it, you fools, so we're still going.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Uh yeah, next up, well, it's the same news actually, living with Melee Edit's final episode. Albe Senior. So this is a guy that we've spotted uh host as for in Chap St. Leonard's. Uh he played the old barrel in Sheffield, which Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:If you like, if if you like Ricky Face, you'll love Albi Senior. That's all I'm gonna say. Albe Senior is a guy who predominantly just plays Benadome, don't they? I think um and then Seaside Towns in the UK.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it's like it's I mean, I'd I've never seen him, so I don't want to be careful I describe him. He he clearly has an audience, I'm I'm sure a bit of what he does.
SPEAKER_01:I watched some of his footage last night, and it's it's like Chubby Brown, it's nowhere near as funny as Chubby Brown. It's more there's they were a joke in it, I can't I can't repeat it, I genuinely can't repeat it because I do think this podcast did get shut down. And there were no punchline, this was a little bit like Ricketch, it was just like an insult towards a particular race, and I just thought, and they're all the audience, the audience are loving it, they love all that sort of stuff. But I was thinking there's no joke. Whatever you think about Shimmy Brown, there's jokes there. This guy, I'm not seeing any jokes so far. He did a terrible joke actually where he said he went to George the the George and the Dragon pub, he knocked on the door, uh the woman answered and said, What are you doing? What are you doing knocking on this door? And he said, He's Georgian.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. So that's what we always do. I mean he's he's been touring for a long time, he has a fan base, he has a following. I'm I'm not I'm not knocking him. I it might it may well be very good. So yeah. It was a bit like when we bottled uh sort of Burning Manning episode that, weren't it? But but genuinely I can't really I've never seen a single joke by him. I just I just like he's kind of that throwback comedian, like he wears a Union Jack shirt, I think.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Yeah, I I like I say, he he he's of a certain of a certain era, um and and he panders to a certain audience, shall we say? He's uh you can't compare him to Bernard Manning. Bernard Manning was good at his what he did. Not sure this guy. He must be pretty good.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that's what I mean though. This is it's it's kinda we're saying it's not for us, but there's an audience for it, so good luck to the man. I don't I don't want to stop uh a man earning his wage, earning his keep.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Anyway, William, any more on March?
SPEAKER_00:Uh the only things I've got AI, I mean it's quite spouse-heavy this. So Formula One season drama kicks off. Um great for chatting about team rivalries, new regulations, and drive to survive style chaos.
SPEAKER_01:Don't know anything about F1, I have to admit.
SPEAKER_00:And silent space science breakthroughs. So March, I like how like AI is almost distancing itself from its own research. It's but March was a Apparantly big for space nerds.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I'll tell you what, we'll move on to April. My first thing in April is about space. Katy Perry went to space. Remember that?
SPEAKER_00:What was all that? Yeah, did did they go to space? Did they go to space?
SPEAKER_01:She went to space.
SPEAKER_00:Was it the kind of edge of the atmosphere?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but I've seen a I've seen saw a picture actually when she first went in. It was someone jumping off a diving board, like it was in a normal pool saying, This guy has jumped, has gone higher than Katie Perry. But yeah, she got hammered for it because she basically went to space for about two minutes. Like she basically went out of the atmosphere for about two minutes.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A bit like that.
SPEAKER_01:And then when she came back. I think it was technically spaced. Right. But she was no only alarm strong. I don't think she got near the moon or anything like that. That would have put down her achievement, and they were only for about a minute as well. She just went up there for a minute. And then when she came off, she started kissing the ground, you know, like as if, oh my god, I'm back home. She were there for about four minutes. Like someone said Taylor Swift's got songs longer than she's been in space. Yeah. Apparently, apparently genuine. I'm looking at it. Don't know how true this is. I just went into AI. She was in space for ten minutes.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I mean, it's ten minutes longer than me.
SPEAKER_01:Well, yeah, but at the same time, it's like going to America for ten minutes from our point of view. You wouldn't bother doing it, would you?
SPEAKER_00:No, but I mean loads of people have been to America, aren't they? How many people could say they've been to space? And what are you not impressed, though, would you? Like if somebody said I've I've I've walked on the moon or I spent six months in the space station, I've been to space how long for? About well, about nine minutes.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you? Some people had a conspiracy, actually, which we should probably try and solve. Is that the person the Katy Perry who went to space isn't the same person who came back down to Earth?
SPEAKER_00:They switched her in that ten minutes.
SPEAKER_01:They switched her because I found when she landed, she came back with a really shit song. So yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I've seen a clip of her where it looks like her eyes blink sideways or something. Do you think that's connected?
SPEAKER_01:Maybe. I I saw someone say it takes longer to get to a weatherspoon's toilet.
SPEAKER_00:It's kissing ground when you get back to your seat.
SPEAKER_01:Oh god, it's fucking ridiculous. I know this and we're not breaking any ground with a weather spoon. I went in a weather spoons. I I unfortunately don't do the um the major charles thing. I went to an away game and I can't remember where it were. It might have been Oxford this year, shuffle United away again. I can't remember it were. And we went in a Weatherspoons. It's it is mad how long those it never fails to make me think what what is happening here? Does it have to be that high?
SPEAKER_00:I yeah, I don't know how they do it. It sort of almost always seems to be part of another building. I don't I don't know. Yeah. But my favourite Weatherspoons, I think the Major's done it, not sure. Uh has closed down, which was the Hain line in St Ives, which is a very snobbish version of the Weatherspoons, but yeah, of course. What's he called?
SPEAKER_01:When he called Tim Martin, what's his name who does all the weatherspoons?
SPEAKER_00:Er Tim Tim something, definitely.
SPEAKER_01:Not Weatherspoon weird. Why is he got why does he not call Weatherspoon?
SPEAKER_00:Um I don't know. I can't answer that question, I'm afraid.
SPEAKER_01:I'm having a look. It is Tim Martin. Have I got this mixed up? Have I got the the man who I've got former? I've just maybe accused the guy who owns all the weatherspoons of shooting someone. Um I don't think it is Tim Martin who shot I don't know who he is. Yeah, somebody Martin. Someone Martin, yeah, Martin Farmer. I'm gonna put Martin Farmer shoot Tony Martin. Tony Martin. Right, so you get that, you get Tim Martin, Tony Martin, and obviously it's Bob Martin who played it was played by Mr. Michael Barrymore. Anyway, more news in April. I sent you because we decided obviously we'd ended Liver with Mailer by this point, and we were gonna do who remembers. And I I must have genuinely sent you about 500,000 various different covers for things like this.
SPEAKER_00:I mean I am bad. I am bad. I think in the modern world, we're all on the spectrum in some way. You're kind of listing of things, and and you can you're your energy just doesn't dip. You can send me images for like eight hours straight of a cover that looks very slightly different each time.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And after a bit, I just had to say to you, I'm not I cannot look at any more of these things, they're they're all the same. And you said, Yeah, we'll just get a few more hours tonight.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I I paid genuinely paid money for this art thing. Um, and it were like AI, but it were like a more advanced sort of thing that you just get on Copilot to sort of put a different thing. And then we finally decided on something, and I'm not happy with it at all. So I might have to go back. I'm not happy with our cover. So I might have to go back and redo it. Let us know if I like the cover.
SPEAKER_00:Well, you didn't. Well, hang on.
SPEAKER_01:We we were to a very small select uh cult like group.
SPEAKER_02:Well, it was a new group, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it was all the podcasters actually, other podcasters, and they all came up with different different ones that this is where I fucked up because they all had different ideas of like what looked better. So I just put them all together and that just looks like a massive mess. Although I did put into AI, um, is this a good cover? And AI said, Yeah, brilliant. So who am I to argue with that?
SPEAKER_00:And this is when I but I've had multiple arguments with AI during the year, but this this will I've not actually got it as one of my notes, but this was my first argument with AI because I asked it to create an image to send what I thought it should look like, and it said, Do you want me to do this? And I said, Yes, please. And it said, I can't do that, that would break this regulation. I said, No, but you suggested it. I I didn't suggest it, you suggested it. So do the thing that you suggested, please. And it said, I can't do that. I said, No, I'm not asking you to do anything you haven't said you can do. Can you do the thing that you said you can do, please? And it just started apologising and saying, I think we've got cross wires here.
SPEAKER_01:Graeme Linhern on Christmas Day tweeted that I think it was Christmas Day, he'd been arguing with the AI all day, and everyone went, Oh, what a loser, most divorced thing ever. And I was thinking, I know a man who he'd get on with.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, a man called Liam.
SPEAKER_01:Um, yeah, he also said uh recently, Glen Graeme Linharn, I think it were about Graham. I love when Graeme Linhern will just pick out another random celebrity that who he thinks we've wronged him. And like, I don't know, it could be Lime or whoever. I think it was Graham Norton, this one. And he said, I know that you're waiting for me to die, but I'm staying alive to spite you. And I thought that's a bit fucked. That's on Christmas Eve. Oh no, that's a bit dark, that mate.
SPEAKER_00:I'm not starting spats with sort of medium level celebrities on Twitter.
SPEAKER_01:No, not got to that yet. No. We did try and start one with Ricky Gervais, who was actually one of one of here. Uh Ricky Gervaise tweeted in April, if I hurt your feelings, you need new feelings, not new facts. Now, you watch the new Ricky Gervais, this is breaking news. You've watched it today, aren't you, Mortal army?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I mean I I'm sort of part of the problem, aren't I? Because I I've watched it within a few hours of it being out. Uh I I love Ricky Gervais. I think some of his early stuff is is some of the best content I I've ever listened to. Uh XFM, Ricky Gervais show, uh The Office, Extras, Life's Too Show, all brilliant. I'm not really into stand-up and I'm not really into the kind of direction it's gone. It's fine, it's fine, it passes an hour. There's not many laughs in it. I mean it he doesn't need my seal of approval. It'll make him more of a millionaire than ever before. It'll make tons of money, people will love it. It's just not if you actually sort of boil it down, there's not that many laughs in it, really.
SPEAKER_01:No, I mean I've not seen it, so I can't comment on it. I imagine. I mean, I saw someone do a bingo card, which I sent you.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, most of that guy's TikTok.
SPEAKER_01:I think you've got about 11 out of 15 on this bingo card. Like hit it mentioned Hitler um talking almost about trans people, talking about uh Jane, he tells uh an anecdote from his childhood, I think.
SPEAKER_00:He does he steals a rich, he steals a call pilkerton joke uh directly again, which is there's a bit where it it kind of looked like he might do one, and I thought, oh, he's gonna do it, and he didn't, he swerved away from it. And I thought, I wonder if that's deliberate to say, look, I can go round these jokes without pinching them. But then, yeah, around about a halfway mark, he directly takes a call pilgriton joke. I saw he won't care what what anyone thinks, really, because he'll uh just get richer and more successful.
SPEAKER_01:But I don't know, I don't know if he does, because he obviously searches his own name, and I'd love to know that. So also one on his Reddit uh page is fantastic. It's basically just people having a go at Ricky Gervais via quotes that Ricky Gervais said when he would go off. Do you know what I mean? Like, oh he's having a go and stuff like that all the time.
SPEAKER_00:I mean he's he's clearly a funny bloke. I think I just think if you put him up against sort of like elite level I know Stuart Lee's a very different thing and he's probably not got tons of laughs per minute.
SPEAKER_01:Maybe it's changed, but we put him up against a Billy Connolly or a Frank Skinner or uh I don't know, just sort of some of the even people like a specs, like a uh Bill Burr and stuff like that, and you know what I mean.
SPEAKER_00:But even people who probably people wouldn't see as uh massive, like I mean to me Victoria Wood laughs per minute is far, far high.
SPEAKER_01:Well, does this all taste? I think I just think the thing with Gervais, uh I saw a review where someone said at the end he can be better than this, he just chooses not to be. And that's exactly it, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, but to be honest, like I I'm not even sure it's stand-up. It's like it's like an hour with Ricky Gervais where he's just gonna tell you some stuff about his life. I mean, it does a bit about his conversation with some lawyers uh at the Golden Globes, uh which just basically ends up with him getting his own way and proving everybody he's better again. It's it's easy money though, isn't it? Yeah, and I couldn't say, don't watch it. It's appalling, it's offensive, it's disgusting. It's not it's fine, it's a fine way to spend an hour. It's alright. I mean, it's obviously not for kids, but it it's it's fine for grown-ups.
SPEAKER_01:It's just is is he better than Jim Davidson? Because it's funny actually, in his first ever stand-up, he does say one false movement on Jim Davidson, and now he sort of is like Jim Davidson. Um Jim Davidson in April, I'm just moving on. Um I had not read this article, I've just seen it, and I wrote it down. Great headline. Yeah, Jim David the headline was he on GB News. Uh Jim Davidson asks, why can't everyone be like Ian Wright? That's it. I didn't need to read it. That's that's good enough for me.
SPEAKER_00:It's enough, isn't it? That's yeah, it's good enough. And to be fair, you can't disagree, can you? I think if we were all a little bit more like Ian Wright, the we'll probably would be.
SPEAKER_01:I think if everyone was Ian Wright, though.
SPEAKER_00:No, you don't want everyone to be Ian Wright, just a bit more like Ian Wright.
SPEAKER_01:A bit more like Ian Wright. That's Jim Davidson's wish of the year. Everyone should be a little bit more like Wright. What have you got for April, Liam?
SPEAKER_00:Uh a quiet month of global diplomacy. It's really misunderstood to brief this, hasn't it? Uh yeah, which was which is a funny way to joke about how nothing happened or did it.
SPEAKER_01:Cheers for that.
SPEAKER_00:Uh and then so the other the only other thing it's come up with, I'll ask it for a couple of things for each month. Springtime, odd news stories. April always brings weird animal escapades, Guinness World Records, and Easter related chaos. It hasn't told me any of those things for discussion, it hasn't linked to any of those things. It's just April always brings I mean, I'd love to know about weird animal escapades.
SPEAKER_01:It's brilliant though. It's like you said, can you give me anything funny? Yes.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, loads of funny stuff I could tell you about in April.
SPEAKER_01:Imagine that. Have you got any like just talking to someone? Have you got any good jokes? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I've got tons, mate.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we've got tons of tons of good jokes.
SPEAKER_00:Anyway, see you later.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, see you later, yeah. See you in a bit, mate. Yeah, right, Liam, May. I think start sorting up by the way. If you get a bit, if you're thinking, oh fucking hell, this is a bit we it gets better the year as it goes on, probably because we can remember it more, so we've remembered more things, but yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so in May, uh Crystal Palace with the FA Cup, which did which did feel a big moment at the time, I think.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I think so. Uh one of those things, and I get this with football, I don't know if you're the same. I always want the underdog to win. But when they win, I I fucking hate 'em. Like I immediately get jealous. So when Leicester won the league, uh everyone wanted Leicester to win the league that year, and I'm getting come on when they won it. I would like cheering. And then when I saw the celebrations and all the fans, I thought, oh fuck off. Do you know what I mean? I would like just sort of like why can't it be why can't it be my team? And I don't I've never understood this sort of I'm really happy for him. I can't think that in football.
SPEAKER_00:I think Simon Jordan summed it up perfectly when Newcastle won the League Cup, and Jim White was desperately trying to get everyone on board with how great a thing it is. And Simon Jones sort of said, Look, it's great for Newcastle fans, but I'm not a Newcastle fan. No, good luck to him. Yeah, let them enjoy the moment, but I'm not going to enjoy it with him. It's it's not my team.
SPEAKER_01:I get so jealous. So when Ipswich got promoted, for instance, they were up against Leeds, and not eight leads or anything, really, but obviously Yorkshire Rivals for the team that we support, and Ipswich won it. Oh, I'm glad about that. Then I saw like all of them celebrate, and I thought, oh, just I know what I mean. Anyway.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, next thing got down for May from your notes. Gary Lineker presents his final. It's a bit sport and football heaviness, isn't it? But we do tend to go that way. Gary Lineker presents his final match of the day after 26 years. I mean, actually, I didn't realise it were 26 years. That is that is impressive.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I watched actually um when he were a pundit. He wasn't a great pundit. I was uh you know me, I stay up all night watching old football. I don't really like watching old matches. I like watching old you know like what they used to talk about. I'm watching yeah, I like watching Jimmy Hill today with Venables having a big argument, and um I don't know, I just like find it quite interesting. And he were two nice Lineker. He were like, Well, I think if we go for the one up front, then maybe it's time for a big man. You think, oh come on, Gary, you're boring as fuck. But he were a great presenter.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, I think they're two different skills, aren't they? I think I think what he's got kind of done better now from the rest of his football is he's sort of somewhere between the two. He's he's happier to give a football opinion, but does keep it moving.
SPEAKER_01:So you don't like how Alan Shearer swears in every episode, not because you're offended by it, you just think it's unnecessary.
SPEAKER_00:I think because somebody said to him, Alan, you can swear in this, that he's thought I'm gonna swear at least ten times in every episode. Fucking hell.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and when I I only listened to it to be honest, when World Cups are on and stuff.
SPEAKER_00:I like his opinion. It just sometimes feels like Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You you that wasn't natural there, Alan. You decided you're gonna drop in a swear there just because you can.
SPEAKER_01:I think at the last year or you were so close to swearing. The group stage of when England were playing shit, he was getting angrier and angry. And I thought in a minute he's gonna say, I'll just fuck off Gareth.
SPEAKER_00:He does that sort of seething thing, doesn't he? Where he gets quite quiet and his eyes go quite thin, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, when he's absolutely furious, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So this to me, not a highlight. I mean, ultimately it ended up with good news, but this is one of the things that made me laugh the most this year.
SPEAKER_01:I'll I'll say this if you want.
SPEAKER_00:Go on, I don't know if you've got the actual text to hand as well.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'll tell you the full story. So I went for uh a blood test, a normal blood test, and I had low iron. So they said, Oh, we'll check to see if there's any um blood in your stool. Sent it in, got a got a uh a phone call back saying, good news, no blood in the stool, so we'll just give you some iron tablets. Brilliant, fantastic. Got um a message about two minutes after that said, uh, unfortunately, I'm just gonna get it here. Hang on. Your your test results have come back positive. This is ridiculous. Your test result has come back positive. They've just told me it hasn't. Um we want to do some uh uh further investigations to rule out anything more sinister, and then in brackets, i.e. cancer. What?
SPEAKER_00:You can't do that. I cancer, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So I found him back and I said, You've you you've literally just found me. Said my blood tests have come back alright, my stools come back alright, and then I've got a text saying you're looking for cancer, i.e. cancer. Um, what's happening? So Dr. Fobby back said, I'm so sorry I've got your uh records mixed up with somebody else. Um and yeah, that was it. I e cancer.
SPEAKER_00:We've got the records mixed up, we do want to check for other things, i.e. cancer.
SPEAKER_01:I no, just what she did say.
SPEAKER_00:Which was the mix up? Was the mix up the text or then saying everything was alright?
SPEAKER_01:Everything was alright is the mix. They phoned me to tell me everything was alright. And then I got a text literally a minute later, and I'm like, what? What's going on here? Like, where where's Jeremy Beadles write up history of this? And then um, yeah, and then basically so some poor bastard had obviously been told he had uh like got blood in his stall, and he'd go god, and then he's got a phone call saying no, no, you haven't actually you haven't got anything, i.e.
SPEAKER_00:cancer.
SPEAKER_01:I e i in brackets. I'll try and post the thing bracket. I e cancer.
SPEAKER_00:Fair enough, it's a bit shocking, but if they said, look, we want to rule out certain things like cancer, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:That's fine.
SPEAKER_00:All right, yeah, we want to rule out other more serious things. Brackets, it's the brackets that get me. I e cancer.
SPEAKER_01:I e cancer. And I'm just i that is it there for or what's i uh I think it's um I think it means something like uh such as. Oh well that does kind of work better then, I thought. It does, but just yeah, but why put in brackets? Either mention cancer normally or don't mention it at all. You could just put something sinister and leave it at that, or just put something sinister like I don't need the brackets. The brackets Aggie cancer.
SPEAKER_00:In other words, it means in other words in other words, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:In other words, cancer. Cancer. Yeah, I know, I know what it means if you've got blood. Look like it were nothing, I would just um yeah, I'd just been wiping too hard with my ring hand. That's not true, because I don't wear a ring.
SPEAKER_00:You got a text saying that, didn't you?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it seems like you've been wiping too hard with your ring hand.
SPEAKER_00:Um I e ring hand.
SPEAKER_01:Um yeah, so that were fine. Have you had a colonoscopy?
SPEAKER_00:Uh no.
SPEAKER_01:Interesting. It's it's it's quite it's not it's quite uncomfortable, it's not painful. But when I went in, they try and obviously like sort of make sure everything's chilled out. The nurse, really nice, but you're a young. I don't know if you're like a trainee or whatever. She went, are you all right? Because, yeah, yeah, yeah. She goes, You're nervous or anything. I goes, No, I'm not I'm not too bad, really. Like, um, I feel alright. She goes, Yeah, yeah. Do you like Ed Sheeran? What? Yeah, it's not an hour. Do you like Ed Shearan? Am I just like I goes, no, not really, to be honest. You don't I'm not really that into him too much. She goes, Nah, me neither is a bit rubbish, isn't it? That was it. And she left, and then the doctor came in with his big camera.
SPEAKER_00:Brilliant. I just just before I go in there, Ness. You did ask him if you liked Ed Sheeran, didn't you? I I did I did confirm that. I did confirm it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I wonder if that's what they do to everyone, or that just is that just calm people. It did throw me, it didn't make me forget. I was thinking, what weird question to ask that is. Well, I've got my pants. My pants. That's what they do, right?
SPEAKER_00:They phased you.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, they phased me, yeah. Anyway.
SPEAKER_00:Um Trump posted an image of himself as the Pope.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that was a good. I love that. It was the White House who tweeted that. It was just Trump as the Pope. Ridiculous.
SPEAKER_00:Uh, and final couple of things from the the AI generation space ambition versus global debt reality. I mean, again, for a light-hearted podcast, it's it's just not grasped it. A perfect setup for we can land on Mars, but we can't fix potholes type humour.
SPEAKER_01:Bloody hell fire.
SPEAKER_00:And the other the last thing is, and actually, as a group group chat, we got really into this, um Eurovision 2025 took place.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, of course, yeah. I should have mentioned that actually. Yeah, I can't remember who one. Um, and you never ever you never can, can you? Unless it's Britain. I think even Britain didn't win that time, they also did they came second to Ukraine, but obviously Ukraine could. And ousted because bombs and stuff.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. But no, it was a I quite enjoyed the evening set. We've even said we potentially might do a live meetup for the next year's next year's. But yeah, no, uh that that's all I've got for the month of May.
SPEAKER_01:So June, June. Uh, this podcast started the first episode. Do you remember the first episode? Uh bad that you can't remember this.
SPEAKER_00:Do do do do blow the oasis? No, that was number two.
SPEAKER_01:That was number two. That was number two.
SPEAKER_00:Who remembers? I don't think we went with a strong start for some reason.
SPEAKER_01:No, we didn't. I I decided that I wanted a low-key start. I don't know what because obviously I I look even though we don't take this very seriously, when we were like doing this, I'm ever getting really like I don't know, like it were going on VVC or something. I'm like, well, I don't want to like go in with a big itter, like start slow, then build us way up. So we went with National Lottery, the first ever National Lottery.
SPEAKER_02:Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And there's a guy, and I can't remember his called on YouTube. I'm pretty sure he'll listen to this because you know, I'd be surprised. But he went through, he's got his own nostalgia podcast. We did about three episodes in the early episodes. He was doing them a month after on his YouTube channel, getting miles more views, but about 25,000 views. But yeah, I'm just thinking, oh yeah, I see what he's up to.
SPEAKER_00:But yeah, this podcast started, Liam, anyway, so big thing for us, um, and for the other uh seven listeners.
SPEAKER_01:Um I wrote this down, by the way, there's another one. There's a a pensioner in five grew a cherry key, a cherry tree to look like a cock. And then I I I wrote this down and I looked into it, and I thought it meant a cock as in a penis, and it weren't, it was just a cock, so I don't even know how that was a story, but like a cock cockerle.
SPEAKER_00:This is like uh XFM when they got a complaint, because you can say you can say the word oh no, what yeah, what's it cock if they were referring to the the animal or the uh anyway, yeah. We we ticked the explicit box or okay. But something like their only complaint they got upheld was when they were talking about the only animal with a penis is a swan, the only bird with a penis is a swan.
SPEAKER_01:Not interested. Not interested. I can't remember what it was.
SPEAKER_00:And I see myself as a super fan, so I I probably should I should probably should know that better, but yeah, they got a slap on the wrist.
SPEAKER_01:Uh and another thing about is uh I think this when they started the Roy J conspiracy started. And I d I I imagine 99% of people will have no idea what we're talking about here. But uh me and you got a bit into this, didn't we?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, you sent it me, and at first I thought this is just one of these nonsense things that you watch late at night and you saw did little grief hole. But now, yeah, I got into it and I thought, God, this a little bit like the and I'm sure you've forgotten him already. Uh go on Sky Sports, Dave Jones.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, Dave Jones, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:A little bit like Dave Jones, that there's an accusation that potentially there's an old comedian that could have been made up, that that a lot of the stories about him didn't seem to exist until fairly recently, and that a lot of people sort of don't really know of him, despite him having some mainstream appearances. So yeah, a weird one because you sort of start of it thinking, yeah, alright, it's obviously a bit of tongue-in-cheek, of course he's real. And then I found myself sort of doubting it, thinking, Well, this is possible.
SPEAKER_01:So he's this really, really alternative comedian, but before alternative comedy, I think, like like early 80s, I want to say, or Roy J. He's on the Bob Munkhouse show, isn't it? He's on Bob Munkows show. There's something weird about all the footage that just doesn't he he's got makeup on, it doesn't look like his accent keeps changing from American to like uh Mancunian or whatever, Lancashire.
SPEAKER_00:He's trying to establish a catchphrase, which it's just what is it, they'll all be doing it next year. He'll all be doing it tomorrow. That's what he's doing.
SPEAKER_01:So he does everything hey, hey freaks, hey hey weirdos, and he's like talks like a bit of America, then he goes, You'll all be doing it tomorrow. And it's just weird, it's an odd act anyway. But the weird thing about it was that there were no Wikipedia page for him, there were nothing online, and then all of a sudden, almost overnight, and I still don't understand how this happened. He's got a full Wikipedia page, he's got a full sort of uh backstory to what he's doing, everyone knows like how he's passed away now, and everyone knows how he died and stuff like that. And it became this massive conspiracy in uh certain forums that is this have have the government, I don't know why they would do this though, planted this comedian. I suppose it was like a good little way to see how much you can manipulate people, just to try and create a forced.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it's like a forced Mand Mandela effect.
SPEAKER_01:Genuinely interested, he is real. I'm I'm 90% sure that it's real, but it is interesting that although I'll say put in Roy J. Schwepp's advert, and it's a real advert, but I don't blame people for thinking it's uh uh yeah, AI. Really I'm fucking massively into that anyway, during June.
SPEAKER_00:Uh AI thinks good things for us to discuss in the month of June would be the NATO security discussions. Keep it like by focusing on memes and awkward photo ops from the summits. Uh and it was World Oceans Month, so lots of funny stories about bizarre deep creatures, deep sea creatures discovered each year. Again, doesn't tell us any.
SPEAKER_01:Rubbish in it, AI.
SPEAKER_00:It's not there yet.
SPEAKER_01:It's not there yet.
SPEAKER_00:Let's move on to the month of July. So we are into the second half of the year now. Big news for certainly our generation, but I think I think for youngsters as well. Um Oasis, the tour started, they officially reformed and toured.
SPEAKER_01:I remember on the first night my mum were once again in hospital, and I've been to the hospital day and I came back, so I missed the and everyone was streaming it on YouTube, you know, like with the phone and stuff like that. And they were like getting like millions of people views, people that just surprisingly good, weren't it?
SPEAKER_00:I think a lot of us the vocals would would they still be there, but they did I didn't go and see it live, I'm sorry to say. I have seen them live, I haven't seen them in this tour live.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so with the prime, don't we? None of this nonsense, you know, coming out for money. But do you know seriously? It did sound really, really good. We obviously did uh a podcast with Sam uh from The Pinch who said that after that gig he feels like he doesn't need to see him ever again because they were that good. So and travelling also said it were good, but I don't know if he's ever said the gig were bad. And he's seen Brian Adams, so yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Um Coldplay, it was the famous Kiss Cam moment where I don't know much about this other than that a couple were kind of in the the the boxes, or they like the kind of executive seats or the the the bit at the back of the stadium anyway, the camera pan round, and there was a couple who actually turned out to not be a couple who were kissing, yeah. So Richard and Judy started with an affair, so and it went it went viral because obviously they realised sort of ran away and hid and and people love to see that sort of thing. So yeah, that was in the month of July. We got the Lionesses winning the Euros. Yeah, that was good. I watched it uh it doesn't actually feel like this year, that looking back at I would have thought that was his previous year.
SPEAKER_01:I got really into the show rows and England. I I thought they were fairly shit for a lot of this tournament by the normal standards where they've obviously done well. I think they lost the first game to France, and then they scraped by Sweden who scored two goals like with 2-0 down, I think it were, and it got back to 2-2. And then remember that penalty shootout?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Where it were about like 1-0. And every way this has set the women's game back about 500 years, whatever it was. But I remember seeing a Sheffield United penalty shootout, I think I want to say might be knotts county in a in a cup game, and it were 2-1. Imagine that how shit that is as a penalty shootout. 2-1.
SPEAKER_00:Get a uh thingy in there, who's a guy who always concedes him. Um Shilton. Get Shilton in, yeah. Oh, Shilton in both rooms.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Imagine that. I mean, it'd go on forever.
SPEAKER_00:Um, but yeah, well done to that. And and I've sort of decided this thing now that certainly when when England gets to the knockout competition of any tournament, I'm just gonna watch the games at home. So that's what I did. I watched it with the kids.
SPEAKER_01:I watched the final at Tram Lines. Um, they put it on the big screen. Everyone were fuming because they said they weren't gonna do it, so a lot of people left. And once you leave Tram Lines Festival, you can't get back in. And they did put it on, and they put it on, and everyone went, I fucking left, and you know. And then Casabian came on right after they won, obviously, just won. Casabian had to delay the set, and you thought, oh I mean, I didn't watch Casabian, but uh, I was told that you thought Casabian would come on and say, Oh, come on, Lionesses, didn't mention it, just did the gig and fucked off.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, well, well done to the Lionessers. Uh, sad news also in July. I don't know, it's a lot of people seemingly didn't like him. I thought he was more well liked than he was. The Hulkster, Hulk Hogan died.
SPEAKER_01:Big news, big news there, sad news in the wrestling world. Whatever you think of Hulk Hogan. We've we've got a full episode on it, so I don't want to go too into it. So look, it's on if you if you're new to the podcast, I don't know maybe listen to this for the first one, but uh yeah, we've got uh an episode on the on the career, the life and times of the Hulkster.
SPEAKER_00:Um, another death, another famous death. Well, it'd have to be, or we wouldn't be talking about it, would we? Ozzie Osborne died.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that that one of those sort of people, Ozzy Osborne. When people do death lists and stuff, he's what he always used to be on him, but it was still quite a ah, you know. He did about it like a day before, didn't it?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, the the only bit that sort of shocked me about that was I don't know if you remember around about this time people were doing a lot, maybe they still are, but I'm just not seeing them anymore. But people were playing a lot of the forever young I wanna be forever. Oh yeah, forever. And it was kind of de-aging celebs back through their their life. And I'd watched uh Ozzy Osborne one of this the the day before he died, so that that was quite I I didn't even know when Bowie died, I listened to Ziggy Stardust the night before he died in the morning. I don't think I had anything to do with his death, but well no, nothing not necessarily directly linked. Um Afghan cricket umpire, uh Bismillah Jan Shinwari dies.
SPEAKER_01:Um popular popular cricket around cricket account, sorry, it's my bad writing that, yeah. I'll say this popular cricket account, uh cricket tang. I think it's cricket cricket cricket and on. It's a but it's got like hundreds of thousands of followers. So obviously the umpire dies, Jans Kriquire, and they announced it on Instagram, deadly seriously. Umare, Shinhuare. They announced it on a post that simply said Jinswari is no more. I can't believe how many times you've said uh yeah, Jan Sin, yeah, whatever. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, you can't you can't announce a death by saying he's no imagine like some I don't know, mind you, my doctor probably would. Like your mum's in honestly, I'm afraid your mum is no more. Can't say that. I e dead. I eye cancer.
SPEAKER_00:Anyway, any more from July? Yeah, the only things I've got from July are mid-year reality check with rising public frustration. It don't even make sense. Perfect for comedic rants about heat waves, travel chaos, and summer sporting meltdowns.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but you're not giving us any examples again, AI.
SPEAKER_00:It's kind of saying what could happen in the years. It's not really I mean, I suppose it's only as good as the question. So I've I've obviously let us down um with the one minute of research that I typed in a sentence. Uh Tour de France Madness, crashes, cows on the road, fans with giant cardboard signs. Again, no, no, it's not talking specifics, it's just saying these are the things that can happen in July.
SPEAKER_01:Tour de France is the one thing that I feel like I should get into. I'm not into it. I I I like the idea of the Tour de France. I like the idea.
SPEAKER_00:It reminds me of test cricket. If you get into it from the start, it's great. You kind of can't dip in and out, though. It's not that scary.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I feel like I should. I yeah, I like it.
SPEAKER_00:I used to really like the music as well, but Tour de Fist.
SPEAKER_01:Is it that? Is it craft work tour de France? It's not, it's not that. Alright. August. This might be my favourite day of the year, this. Not because of what happened, but how many funny things happened. Tommy from Coronation Street, Tommy Harris, killed by Katie Harris. Um, if people remember back then, um asked Prince William to remove Sheffield Wednesday chairman, Defron Chancellor, from the club. Um, the best thing about this is obviously when Chancellor, if people don't know, if you're not into football or whatever, Sheffield Wednesday owner basically well he did loads of things. I'll go through a few things that he did. Um he said my favourite thing that he did actually at the beginning of this year is when he said they had a player called uh Shea Charles on loan. And he had he used to do these three-hour meetings with fans, didn't he? Can you remember that later? Yeah, they'd have a group session. They were amazing. So fans would go, they'd be all furious, these fans, and he'd have absolutely no idea what they were angry about. So someone said, Look, are we gonna lose Shay Charles or not? And he goes, Shea Charles is staying, he's definitely, definitely stay in. You will not be leaving this season. And then about 10 minutes later, he goes, I've forgotten to take a phone call. He comes like a comedy. He came back in the room and said, You were Southampton, Shay Charles has gone back. Brilliant, like a comedy. Um, there's that brilliant um image of him that I'd love. I need to share this actually on our socials, is uh when it looks like he's about to burn Ulsburg down that video.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, he's burning his ticket or something, isn't he?
SPEAKER_01:He's burning a ticket or something, and he's looking and he's looking like at the ground like he's had enough. And it looks like he's just genuinely about to burn the entire ground. Yeah, yeah. Uh what else is he done? But he they had a celebration um for 150 years of Cheffi Wenzo, whatever it was, and he made the biggest cake of all time, like the literally made the biggest cake, and it immediately crumbled into little pieces. Absolutely fantastic. Obviously, uh, I assume you're gonna mention the uh the Carlton Palmer reference Carlton Palmer thing is Carlton Palmer was a big critic of him, understandably, in the in the press. Club legend. Club legend, Sheffield Wednesday Club Legend, Carlton Palmer. And Chan Terry did uh an impromptu press conference the day after Carlton Palmer, he goes, I don't even know where this man is. What's his name? Leighton Palmer? Leighton Palmer, yeah. He goes, Leighton Palmer's having a game, mate. Leighton Palmer, yeah, and and also one of my he another great thing he did once actually, Chantery's top of my head is when he um that with that meeting, actually, one of his three-hour meetings. Someone said, Why you why are we not buying players? Why are we not you know signing people up to contracts? He goes, You you sign him, you buy him, and he goes, Well, I ain't got you you own the club, I'm not, you know, I ain't got enough money. He goes, sell your house to pay for players. Literally told like the fans to sell their houses just to keep him going.
SPEAKER_00:Obviously, we're we're not we're the other side of the city. I think he's you can't really defend him, but I think his stuff he he did lose, he put a lot of money in and lost a lot of money. Oh, yeah. And I think that's that's his big thing is that there whether there was more money or not, it just got to a point where he thought I'm not putting any more money in. And if you guys want to spend money, then you're gonna have to do it. And I think it just got to a point where the club kind of just couldn't couldn't move forwards with that that stats.
SPEAKER_01:He used to message fans as well. So you were on LinkedIn, and fans would say, Why don't you why aren't you selling the club? And he'd say, You you fuck off bullshit. I remember like all these messages that you used to send people saying, uh, someone said, I've heard we've had offers for the club. I've had no offers at all. You talk shit, fuck off. But this all came to a head around August where they did by this part they weren't paying wages to even like ground staff and stuff like that. Uh sorry, uh club shop staff and things like that. They were just like in disarray of clear they were going into admin. And Tommy from Coronation Street did a message to Prince William saying you need to do something for well, Prince William, what are you talking about? And the best thing about it is uh Sheffield Telegraph sports reporter, uh, again, if you don't live in Yorkshire, you won't know who he is, but it's a legend uh in the in the local media, is Alan Biggs tacked Kensington Palace saying do something, saying you must intervene. What the fuck? Everyone lost their mind. Yeah, everyone lost their minds, um, but I enjoyed that. Um and the no, no, the thing is as well, you know, because Blade Pod ended. Blade Pod, the other podcast that I used to do, uh, started by uh created by Ben Mooney Meekin, who's been on here talking about the Blair Witch project. Um yeah, he he hung up his hung up his microphone, didn't he?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, sad day, really. I think he'd he'd stopped enjoying it. Um yeah, I kind of understood.
SPEAKER_01:Well final, which I've not I've not uh included in this, uh killed Ben, I think.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, obviously you went to Wembley and I don't know if we've mentioned it, you found me in the evening that we got beat and said, Yeah, a bit concerned about Ben. He sat on his own in the garden just staring into space.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So yeah, obviously hit him hard and he just decided he wasn't enjoying it. And yeah, shame for you know, there's loads of decent Chef United content out there still, but but that kind of felt well the most level headed, like in terms of just I don't know, it's it it it was kind of my my first one I would listen to, and that's gone now.
SPEAKER_01:So yeah, it's yeah, and I'm not sort of putting it in to brag myself because obviously he did it with the Gloria's or when he did it with Jay, uh Jay Analytics, who now works. I think he still works for Luton. Um probably out of work where they're going to know this, but anyway, what else you got for August?
SPEAKER_00:So August, um I don't even know if we should carry on with these, but uh Arctic warming headlines. Um but you can keep it light by focusing on strange wildlife stories. The Arctic is basically a beach holiday now, for example. Is it? No, it's not now. Um go on Premier League season build-up, transfers, predictions, and the inevitable overreactions.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but it's not started yet, so why is it gonna be over-reactions?
SPEAKER_00:Well, predictions and people saying, Oh, there's no way we're gonna sell him, or I can't believe we're gonna buy it. No way, we don't need him. That's the only thing I could think. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Let's move on to the saviours month, September.
SPEAKER_00:September, so our birth month. Um the Hitman Hart and died again. We've got a tribute episode to that, so I won't go too far into that. But yeah, I personally I was very sad by that one. Um Sheffield Telegraph's front page reads Fargate is the best it's been in five years.
SPEAKER_01:I love that. One of my favourite ever had. I saw it at work. Fargate is just an area in Sheffield Town Centre. It's the best it's been in five years. What a what a what a underwhelming.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, five years as well was kind of sort of the end of COVID, wasn't it? So nothing was happening.
SPEAKER_01:So it's the best it's been in five years. Incredible.
SPEAKER_00:I don't even know if that's true. I I don't go there very much, but I'm I'm not I don't who's defined that based on what?
SPEAKER_01:I don't know. I just I mean what it's just it's just a shocker of an headline. Anyway.
SPEAKER_00:Uh Donald Trump says he's taken more, he's now the way you've written this doesn't make sense, but oh yeah, yeah, yeah. He says it he's taken more wounds than any pres president. I've taken more the best wounds, I've taken the best wounds of any president.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it and four presidents have been assassinated.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, fair point.
SPEAKER_01:Um but Trump says he's taken yeah, brilliant. I'll laugh at me out of that.
SPEAKER_00:Were they just a single shot? Isn't he saying he's been more wounds?
SPEAKER_01:He's had one wound, he got shot in the ear, didn't I? And that were it. I don't think he's no one else has shot him, have they? Has anyone ever roughed him up, Donald Trump?
SPEAKER_00:No, I don't know. Is it the Hungarian or some once someone tries to get in front of him once, don't he?
SPEAKER_01:But he swiftly deals with push backwards. Yeah, push backwards having that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I don't know about that. It's taken more wounds, like you say, more wounds than any president ever, and some of them have actually been killed. Uh I'm sure he believes it. It may it may be true, I can't disprove it. Uh the only things we've got from the AI are the UN General Assembly. Always full of bizarre speeches, awkward handshakes, and memeable moments.
SPEAKER_01:I notice you're missing out the big thing that I've left here, which is uh it was in September that Chapel St. Lenard's roadshow was recorded.
SPEAKER_00:Well no, because you you put it in October's notes, but it is September, yeah. Both wrong.
SPEAKER_01:Explain yourself.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it's it's it's been a washout. So when we first started doing this on Eleven We Made League, I I agreed to do all the editing and it was a complete pain in the arse. You used to have to go through it, listen to it all the way through, take out all the little bits. We we try and do it now as a radio show. It's very rare we edit it. Um you may well notice that in the standard, but but yeah, it's become quite an easy thing to do now. We do recording. Generally speaking, I just trim off us talking before we start, trim off us talking at the end, put the title music in, and it goes really easy to do. Uh it's not enjoyable, that's the wrong word, but it's it's fine. The roadshow is multiple recordings of us done in various different locations that needs running through different filters to make some of the sound quality better.
SPEAKER_01:There's then making it sound like it's a world tour.
SPEAKER_00:There's there's loads of clips of us doing karaoke, which need trimming and editing because uh it's gonna be hard for some people to to believe this, but we're not professional singers, so no, we do have to edit down some of it to get rid of the buttons, just a lot of it's like full songs.
SPEAKER_01:No one wants to listen to a full version of me doing Big Spender by Shirley Bassett.
SPEAKER_00:I think there might be an audience for that, but certainly not everyone, yeah. But yeah, but but yeah, and and the worst thing as well is that sometimes we'll both do it where we'll start and they say, Ah no, I don't like how that bit went. I'm just gonna restart that one. So some of them are huge long clips, it's just a massive piece of work, and I'd kind of thought myself into doing it on Christmas, and then obviously a ridiculous idea because I'd I cooked a dinner, I'd had a few drinks, I fell asleep about eight o'clock, woke up at 12 at midnight, and that was kind of the slot I'd got in my mind I was gonna try and do it in, and it just didn't happen. It's there, I I don't know at what point it it is gonna be released. There is nothing we've not been shut down on on the episode. There's nothing in there that I'm aware of that can't be said. No, I just haven't done it yet, and and I will do, and it'll be uh it's like Lost Media now, though.
SPEAKER_01:It's like I think the hype about it, like if you leave that's a better.
SPEAKER_00:It's grown into something that it's not. We didn't actually do quite as much recording this year. I think we're both quite tired second night, and and the karaoke stopped early.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And also it because obviously we've been out all day and watched a couple of games of football. I'm not sure how good some of the chat is, it's just drunken ramblings, which we have sort of toyed with the idea of doing a late night, who remembers, which is where we do have a few drinks and we do go a bit more controversial, but yeah, I I don't know. I I need to tidy it all up. I do need to release it. It it will be released at some point. I don't know when that is. So yeah, apologies.
SPEAKER_01:It's fucking juke nucleum too, where Duke Newcomb took ages to come out follow-up.
SPEAKER_00:We should well, yes, uh thingy as well, innit? Grand Theft Auto has been delayed.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I don't know, at some point it'll come out, it won't be as good as you're thinking it will be. No, well, and yeah, probably we shouldn't have even mentioned we were recording it, and then it would just be in a bonus that comes out at some point.
SPEAKER_01:But yeah, that's next time we might do it live, but just put it out in little sections or something like Tufti Club do when they go on tour.
SPEAKER_00:I think from memory, the first few recordings we did in sort of a few different bars, and some of them had music on in the background, and some didn't. And I remember when I first listened to them thinking this is gonna be a nightmare trying to tidy this up, and then I just haven't done anything with it.
SPEAKER_01:But anyway, October. Um Lost Profits lead singer Ian Watkins, who was serving 29 years in prison for child sex offences, died after being attacked in Wakefield. I recently watched back, I weren't a big fan of well, I weren't a fan of Lost Profits at all, but I watched back uh his last gig. Uh I think it were a week before he actually got sentenced. Baldur's brash was not obviously I don't expect him to mention what's going on, but no one knew basically what we're out in at this point. Um, but he had already been uh arrested and he were out on bail um and he were doing this gig and yeah, just singing as normal. Weren't did no care.
SPEAKER_00:I used to quite like the song last summer, um, but obviously it's you don't you don't listen to it anymore, do you? So no. Um Matt Graham. I think uh hey, I know this is a well a well sort of used line, I suppose, but about H from Steps is absolutely delighted that his name won't be in the papers anymore because they were both.
SPEAKER_01:I wonder how many people when he died wrote rest in peace, H and stuff. He'd have hated that H as well. I imagine he's not that sort of humor at all. No, no, no, no, no. No. Uh Mike Graham left talk TV uh over claims of uh racism. Um big news is for us because uh we often uh talk about the two mics uh this show where in fact you wanted to call it the no mics, didn't you?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Uh but yeah, but we didn't. Uh but yeah, Mike Graham, uh, and I uh the reason I put this into the big moments is because I thought this might be a step closer to the two mics reuniting.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, we we were messaged saying, Oh, could this be it? Could this be the two mics back together, get the band back together again? But no, um he's gone on to do a YouTube channel now, I think.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's just doing the same old shit. Easy money again, isn't it? Easy money, easy money for Mike, Mr. Mike Graham. Uh, and also in the uh the month of October, Trump uh took credit for Osama bin Laden being killed because, in his words, he told him to watch out for him way before 9-11.
SPEAKER_00:I I mean I I know people can't stand Donald Trump and and we we try not to sort of go into politics, but it's so funny, it's so funny to the things he says, it's so entertaining.
SPEAKER_01:His tribute to the the guy uh Rob Rainer's final tap is one of the most disgusting, yeah, hilarious Billy Blake retweeted it and put a touching tribute. Brilliant. It's just like saying, Yeah, Staddy's died, but and then it's just like sort of slagging him off. He said he would die because he he hated Trump that much. It's like what you thought he got murdered.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. Uh on the other note, so calm calm before the climate decisions, a great setup for joking about October is one point where nothing happens and everyone waits for November.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, that's a good joke, that AI and Halloween weirdness.
SPEAKER_00:So, yeah, obviously it was Halloween. Yeah. Next November. Morrissey cancels his tour.
SPEAKER_01:This is brilliant, Ned. So Morris in the last three years has cancelled 46% of his gigs. Think how much that is, but that is that is mad.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:46%. And I've sent you these before, Liv. These are absolutely amazing. Some of the reasons he's given for cancelling these gigs in the last three years. Extreme sinusitis. I love extreme. Just say uh extreme fatigue times two. This is a good one. Guitar player cuts his hand. I love that. Like I imagine guitarists are saying, No, I can't play. No, we cannot carry on. You've cut your hand, we have to cancel the whole tour. No, it's fine. I've just he's I've just cut it up. No, we have to we have to cancel it. But the best one, Liam.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, go on, that's the one I'm waiting for.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he cancelled a tour because he said he had no funds available to get to Finland.
SPEAKER_00:No funds available for Finland.
SPEAKER_01:Absolutely amazing. So he didn't play a gig in Finland because he said that he had no funds available.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so well yeah, and people people bought tickets. This travel's not surely that's factored into the the whole cost of it, isn't it? Like that's that's what you've been paid the money for.
SPEAKER_01:Not enough funds to get to Finland.
SPEAKER_00:Um Ricky Gervais released some vodka. I thought that was it, I didn't realise that in November. I thought I'd been around for a bit longer than that.
SPEAKER_01:No, then I mean this were massive on social media where he kept putting up those fake billboards and everyone was saying this is shit, and then other people were saying, What's the matter? Too challenging for you? Do you know what I mean? Yeah, but anyway.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. Um, I mean, obviously, we've already touched on his his comedy today, but uh yeah, that's all we've got. I mean, November, I'm not even gonna read out November. I'm gonna I'm getting bored of that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. So we're on to December. Um the Epstein files uh partially released. Have you uh what I loved about this is um some of the fake ones that come out. Um so uh Stephen Hawkins were on a a few. Boris Becker, John Barnes, I saw.
SPEAKER_00:I thought it was Stephen Hawkins one was real, is it not? What I think I thought that was like already sort of previously known that he was on the flight logs. I I don't know, maybe well Rick Gervais's stand-up today says you can't slander or liable the dead. So he says what does he say? So he says oh no, it's something about Gande. Yeah, he probably does say that, but yeah. No, I I I thought that was real, so if it's not, I did see John Barnes on one, I thought that one was fake.
SPEAKER_01:Sander Berger, my favourite was the Fogdan and Fogg Dad. That'd be amazing. Graham Potter, another one on him. Um big thing for us. Uh very niche there, so I don't really spend too much time on it, but you've got a lot to get off your chest. It was Dead Bat's Quiz of the Year.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, where do we start?
SPEAKER_01:Where do we start? So every year, uh, people don't know a Dead Bat uh I've took the club. Um I'm gonna call it a sister podcast. I don't even really know what that means. Uh very similar podcast, I think, to this in many ways. Uh he does a uh a quiz where there's about I don't know, five teams or something like that, and it's 15 Sheffield United questions, then 10 music, and then 10 general knowledge. Always ends in a bit of controversy, but I think this year we're talking Major Charles Ingram style controversy.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so we second year running, we've been drawn together. Well, actually, all three years we've done it. First year we were drawn together and we won it. Um the second year we were drawn together and we were beaten by the team with the additional person.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And the same thing happened this year, we were beaten by the team with the additional person. Yeah, I mean, you have to say, like, before because we are we're all gonna criticize Dead by here. Yeah, big time. But it is a great quiz, and he does put a lot of effort into it. And yeah, kind of all joking aside, I hope he doesn't stop doing it because uh this is all in good humour, however. However, yeah. So there was there was one the first moment that I'd like to take issue with was when we were told only to go as far as question 30, I believe. So that's what we did, as instructed by the quizmaster, and then we were told we had to give our sheet in immediately, and it should have question 31 completed as well, which was like a seven-part question, I think, maybe six.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, where what artists has uh sold more records, I think it was. In each decade, yeah. In each decade, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So so we said, well, hold on, we we didn't know we had to do that, but yeah, it should have no and he went very sort of teacher mode and was shouting pens down at us. So, I mean, we actually did all right. I think we got the first three or four, or we got three out of the first four.
SPEAKER_01:I would have never have got the late Great Maracare, I tell you that, for the 90s.
SPEAKER_00:No, so we we absolutely wouldn't have got that. I don't know if we could have figured out MM, I'm not sure MM for the Nighties, yeah, maybe. But yeah, so so that was the first point where we sort of thought, and and actually we were well in front because your Sheffield United knowledge is kind of encyclopedic, so we were we were well clear, and then all of a sudden it seemed to like even up very quickly, and and it was a bit like, well, I thought we were well in front here, and it sort of came down to the last round, the general general knowledge. I'd already put myself out there as being the the science and nature man, yeah. And the question came, uh well, I mean, in fact, there's a there's a football one as well that I think you do you want to take a shoe with because the the decade was listed as oh yeah, we did get this one.
SPEAKER_01:So there was a football question where it's it basically gave you five clubs and said which former Sheffield United player is this? And he had to guess it from the clubs that he played at. Uh he said and in the brackets it said I can't. In the brackets it said um nighties and two thousands um player. I thought straight away Nigel Sparkman, but Nigel Sparkman did not play for us in the noughties.
SPEAKER_00:And we quite quickly as well sort of said, Oh well, it can't be because he didn't play. And don't get me wrong, I didn't say that. I I would never have got it.
SPEAKER_01:Me and Ben Ben were on our own.
SPEAKER_00:You and Ben, yeah, you and uh Ben sort of reasoned out that well, actually, no, it can't be him because he weren't here in the 2000s. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, a lot of a lot of time spent first first thing I'll think of, mmm, yeah, you know, not not as but then I think to be fair to Debat, we couldn't think of anything else, so we did put it down and we did get the point for it.
SPEAKER_01:So I suppose you can't the the the time lost, I suppose, is the presume we we presumed that he got it wrong and we were right to think that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, then we I mean there's a couple of things. That the the big one for me that I I sort of still think about from time to time is the question was which animal can jump the highest? And it was challenged straight away. Is it relative to size? No, no, no, no, which animal can jump the highest. So I thought about it, I thought that's not easy actually. Like I I remember used to have like a Guinness World Book of Animal Records, I think, but this is a long time ago, and I was trying to think back. I put down mountain lion, cougar, I was reasonably happy with it, I wasn't certain. And the answer came out, which was whale. Not not a species of whale, just just whale. Straight away I thought is that is that right? So I challenged on it and he said, no, no, look, I've researched it, that's that's the answer, it's whale. So I said, right, okay. After the quiz though, I'd searched on the phone which animal can which animal can jump the highest. The answer that came up for me on multiple different search engines was m was mountain lion. And a dolphin was second and a killer whale third. So they are both types of whale, but they didn't beat mountain lion. The only sort of argument that we then got into was whether if so if a humpback whale actually jump comes up higher out of the water and breaches, but doesn't leave the water, is that a jump? So yeah, there was there was there was big debate around that. I still think the answer was mountain lion. We didn't get the point.
SPEAKER_01:So he went to a tie break, and the funniest thing about it is he went to a tie break after before the tiebreaker.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, sorry, sorry. One the one last one that I want to take issue with. One more thing, and you could argue this is good quismanship to be honest from dead bar. So this is not a criticism. This is just I I can't believe he did this. I can't believe that you would have a question that says, What age do you need to be to become the Prime Minister of the of the UK? And Ben straight away said, Well, it's just gotta be 18, on it. And and my logic was there's no way that he asks that question if the answer's 18. You just wouldn't. It's it's why why would you?
SPEAKER_01:Like well, that's that that you say. I mean, realistically, genuinely, I'd take my hat off to that to that question because if I don't know, it's like yeah, I think it makes it it's it's one of those, innit? You think, well, it can't be that obvious.
SPEAKER_00:It's like well yeah, well, you know, what's rain made of? Well, it's it can't just be water. You must want us to put like, well, actually, there's you know, is it has it got any acid in there? Is it is it is it taking anything else out of the atmosphere? Yeah, it just seemed like the answer can't be 18. So we wrote down 18. Just as we were submitting the paper, I crossed it out and put 16. So with the jumping animal and me changing Ben's 18 to 16, those two things combined meant that we we lost it.
SPEAKER_01:Well, when I went to a tie break and the tie break question was.
SPEAKER_00:No, no, it didn't. So what he said was if it had gone to a tie break, so if the jumping animal one was right.
SPEAKER_01:No, no, no, not sorry, not a tie break. It can answer the last question. Sorry, sorry, not a tie.
SPEAKER_00:The last question was which has got more toilets, the Buckingham Palace or the White House. Yeah. And we we just got that one wrong. I to me it's a 50-50. I think we reasoned that the White House kind of acts as more of an office as well, so potentially a lot more toilets. We went with that. Got it wrong, got it wrong. We got we got it wrong, so we we lost on the final answer again, though. There's the animal one which would have taken us to a tie break.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And there's me changing Ben's purely on me. That one, I just cannot believe he asked that question, but we we could have won it. So so I take personal responsibility, really, for the 18 to 16, because because then I still think morally we could have said, Yeah, but but we think we got the animal one right, but it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_01:But it was so funny after because I you were straight on your phone going hang on a minute. Ben were going through all the quiz sheets like counting them up and stuff, and I just went outside like our out, hour out of the building.
SPEAKER_00:It was like the it was a good humoured sort of quasion, we're all mates together, but yeah, we were we just had to get a few moments just to gather ourselves, didn't we?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we had to and it's still going on, you know.
SPEAKER_00:We some of us speak to Deb Bart and we're still bringing on there's further controversy after the event, there wasn't there. Yeah, yeah, because a couple other people have seen some other questions that were I don't know if this is just somebody trying to rile us up who'd seen our reaction and thought this will get him going even more. A member of the winning team. Oh yes, yes, indeed. So we went we went to the toilet, he was already in there. So he was washing his hands as we went in, and he said something along the lines of well now I probably should quote him. So I think he said, I'm gonna go back now and sit next to the winner, a certain person with with his lovely hair. His hair's so nice, it it almost means you can look past the fact that he cheated on some of the answers.
SPEAKER_01:It's so good because it's like a mover. Then he just slunk out, didn't it? Yeah, just went and just think of it. He just said that, yeah, he said he said that, and then he were out. He were like and we sort of thought I'm leaving you with that. I'm like, what?
SPEAKER_00:What does that mean? Has he has he confirmed an answer on his phone? Has he has he gone and got a new answer? I mean, people people in the team said and and I think people who who would genuinely say, like, ah well, I did think that was suspicious, did say, no, the ones he got right, he just wrote down straight away. Yeah. So I'm wondering if we just got played.
SPEAKER_01:It's just another thing to throw in there, though, isn't it? It's just another thing tour taste to throw in to yeah, it's another it reminds me when Jeff Wood United got relegated during the Tevers affair. It's like, do you know what I mean? Like they've not not not feeling like an eligible player, but it just feels like there's a lot of decisions that have gone for the London Club and the London Club in this instance. And he got Trevor Brooke in, and Trevor Brooke says, Yeah, this is all fine, mate.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, but not like all joking aside, I I don't know. I'd still I'd like the animal one to be cleaned up once and for all, because that's something that might get asked. And another quiz, and I would like to know the definitive answer on that one. Yeah, but you know, it was it was a really good quiz, and I think any quiz that goes down to the wire and any quiz that ends with some sort of controversy and something to talk about is a fantastic. They're always good.
SPEAKER_01:He did it live for America last year.
SPEAKER_00:They are genuinely looking back, it was in New York. We were signing up.
SPEAKER_01:He's threatening now, he's threatening now to hang his uh his hang his pen and papers up, but please don't because it's obviously only well the only thing I'd say is that and I don't this is not why he's considering hanging his pay pen and papers up, but he puts a lot of time and effort into it, but also money, like he buys prizes and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean it well, I just a shame these prizes are going to the wrong people, that's the only problem. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But I mean, in terms of chocolate oranges, it was thrown around for fun. They were they're a bit more like a sort of chocolate gangster, where I sort of said, Oh no, I've got one, and it was sort of stuffing one into my pocket, saying, Take a moment for kids to. Come on for kids, pal, you're all right.
SPEAKER_01:So he knows, doesn't he?
SPEAKER_00:I've not seen it. When I put it, it just says sorry, somewhere like in the bottom of it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Oh, so that so that we said we weren't going to spend much time on that. That's our half of the podcast. It's already massive.
SPEAKER_00:No, but genuinely, like all joking aside, I I put no effort into that. I turned up for the third year running and enjoyed doing a quiz. And and yeah, I don't actually believe it or not, I don't actually care if we win or lose. I I think last year we weren't really that bothered, to be honest. I just think we've got we've got outplayed. I just this this one just felt a little bit of controversy.
SPEAKER_01:A bit of controversy about this one. We'll end the year on the baby boy byfield. Um the winner. Obviously, the last podcast we did with the the magnificent Major Charles. I I I I don't know how much he's raised because I've not written it down because that's not what we do for this podcast.
SPEAKER_00:I think it's just under 20 grand since he started, which is incredible.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, incredible, genuine, like fantastic for that. But most people realistically are just bothered about who won. Not for me uh not a vintage winner, I don't think.
SPEAKER_00:No, but I can I I kind of feel that that's a good one. I forgot his name. What's his name? Nick Waltomard.
SPEAKER_01:Maltomada, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I didn't like the final. I mean McTominy was uh again, as I said in the podcast, that might have been a bit a bit too good. Yeah, maybe, and I would prefer like the Italian version or Scott McTominy in a nice suit or something like that. I would have been a bit.
SPEAKER_01:Tomata tomato discovering Scott McTominay might have been good. Have you heard about him discovering tomatoes? Yeah, I like that. But no, did he have discovered tomatoes? What he's done is um he said uh he said he couldn't go to the tomatoes are better.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, basically he said we have in England. Yeah, I often think that when I go abroad that their tomatoes are. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They are miles. Yeah. Umato, mate. But it was a brilliant tournament. I thought Gonic Shaka for me, by the way. I know it's potentially as another good year last year, but next year, sorry, but uh to me that was a winner. Yeah, it was brilliant to have to have Joe on. I think we were probably both a little bit starstruck to be honest. I think we we didn't give him that much time to talk, did we? Me particularly, I was a bit sort of quite excited.
SPEAKER_01:Let's talk about the elephant in the room when go on, what's the elephant in the room? You're breathing.
SPEAKER_00:Ah right, yeah. Yeah, I don't know what happened there. I sat in a slightly different position to normal. But same equipment. Do you know what it might be actually? Because we've we've got we've got another confession to make. Yeah. This could have been a complete disaster, so we didn't record the call with the major.
SPEAKER_01:No, we forgot to press record. Um because that's far from we were, that's what we were like, oh.
SPEAKER_00:But because that's happened to us before for I think the Barrymore episode.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I've now got like an app in the background that should record all calls, but I've never tested it before. So I phoned you and said this could be a disaster. I don't know if we've got that recorded. And went and had a look live and it turned out we did. But I'm wondering if it's because it's a different software package, it just highlighted my breeding a little bit.
SPEAKER_01:It was so funny, because obviously I'll listen back. You'd left the ending, it was fucking shambles the entire thing, actually, because we put it on Spotify, it didn't upload properly. You'd left the ending in. I fucked the tweet up and said uh voting open at 1am. 1am at 10am. Yeah, instead of 10am. Uh this is all I think this is all, yeah, shock the the shock of uh yeah, meeting the major. But um, but yeah, I and I listen, I always listen back just to make sure you've you know there's no big mistakes in it, whether there's a big gap of silence or anything. And all I could hear, it were almost like you were banging one out every time we were talking about nominees, like it were going, I don't know, yeah, in this one we've got uh granite Zach or a bit like Uncle Albert.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I mean I know we sympathize with dyspraxia. I I do have chronic breathing problems. Um that's not, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, I don't moan about my dyspraxia every episode. I don't think you should be moaning about your your asthma.
SPEAKER_00:No, maybe not, and it is well under control as well.
SPEAKER_01:So that yeah, no, I think I think it was the recording thing. I think we recorded it, and I think we boosted it as well. But you well, you did, obviously.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so because you told me it didn't go on Spotify, I ran it through this kind of loudness thing again. Yeah, and it obviously decided it liked the sound of my breathing, so it sort of double amplified it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's it amplified your breathing. But I listen, but I was laughing my head off at Bombay. Look, Eggie, I weren't we thought it were another Saviour's Day style joke.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, he thought we'd gone quite edgy with another slightly ridiculous thing to get a reaction, but no, it's just it was just poor, poor craftsmanship is all it was.
SPEAKER_01:Anyway, that was the year, Liam. That is a fucking really long, boring episode that we've just done there. But we do it every year, and that's how we roll, innit? And you'll be hearing a lot more from us in 2026, the first proper year of um core members.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, thanks for listening, everyone. Um keep commenting, give us a like, give us a share, smash your head into the like and subscribe, whatever it is.
SPEAKER_01:I'll share this episode, it's not been a great one. But it's like, do you know when like I always like to listen to podcasts and they'll do like an end-of-year quiz, and it's always the worst episode that they do, and they get really excited. Football cliches are like, ooh, big quiz of the year. Not bothered, not bothered, you know what I mean? And this is a bit like but everyone has to put out episodes like this at the end of the year, it's just the lore of being an established podcast, innit?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it's a roundup, it's it's the right thing to do. It's the right thing to do. No, I'm gonna say, should we discuss past episodes? But we haven't we haven't got enough of a back catalogue. Maybe at some point we'll have a look back on some classical.
SPEAKER_01:So much for for everything you've done for me in 2025. Uh and next year, no, I reckon this time next year we'll probably have the Chapel St. Lanas Roadshow out.
SPEAKER_00:So I mean, yeah, we've we promised a website about 18 months ago. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Patreon, people have asked for patrons. Like, we've had three people now ask us for patrons, which is uh I love that. That's the most impressive boast I've ever heard of.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I mean, I think three people have said they would pay us at least two pounds a month to listen to it.
SPEAKER_01:Let us know if you want to what we've got an idea for the patron is late night remembering where we go into more naughty topics. We're not gonna do it, it's nothing blued. Right. Thank you, William, for 2025.
SPEAKER_00:New year, whatever you're up to. I think it's a bit overrated, but still I have good news even working.
SPEAKER_01:I'm missing the missing the New Year's Day games. I hope it's not like the Boxing Day 1963. I saw, by the way, sorry, I'm rambling on at the end here, but I saw obviously we did a joke about uh Boxing Day 1963 about everyone thinks the first person saw it. Yesterday on my YouTube recommendations on a show, it was uh has anyone seen the Boxing Day? And it were the Junkie, and I felt a bit no, I feel sorry for it, because you were getting about 50,000 views, but it was so enthusiastic because oh, you won't believe it, man. What happened?
SPEAKER_00:I think it is impressive the first time you see it, it's just less so the sort of 30th time that you see it. Yeah, but yeah, if that's if he's new to it, yeah, just enjoy it, man.
SPEAKER_01:Enjoy it, man. Enjoy it. Thank you, Liam.
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