WHO REMEMBERS? The UK Nostalgia Podcast
A nostalgia trip for anyone in the UK who grew up on dial-up Internet, Findus Crispy Pancakes, and playground rumours that couldn’t be fact-checked online. We’re not historians — we don’t do dates, and we barely do facts — but science says reminiscing gives your brain a dopamine hit, so think of us as your weekly dose of hazy memories, childhood flashbacks, and confidently misremembered events.
Expect frequent arguments about who remembers things properly as we rummage through the UK’s collective memory box.
WHO REMEMBERS? The UK Nostalgia Podcast
Who Remembers........Playground Games?
The bell rings, the gates swing, and suddenly it’s a world of Bulldog sprints, Tig debates, and the kind of slap that stings your pride more than your cheek. We rewind to the 80s and 90s schoolyard to unpack the games that shaped our reactions, our friendships, and our appetite for chaotic fun. From the disputed rules of British Bulldog to the gentler but no less intense What’s the Time, Mr Wolf?, we compare versions, call out the bans, and laugh at how every school invented its own lawbook.
We get tactical with Tig: no tig back stalemates, Tiggy Lamppost rescues, and the nostalgia lightning bolt that is Tiggy Bob Down. Then it’s football spin-offs: the glory and grief of Wembley singles and doubles, Spot battles with “dog’s life” revivals, and heads and volleys with house rules that bordered on combat. Conkers bring the lore—stringing techniques, legendary “20-ers,” and the surprising scale of world championships—while skipping and Double Dutch remind us how rhythm and teamwork brought crowds even without a ball.
There’s the soft power of paper fortune tellers, the collecting craze of Pogs and Top Trumps, and the pain Olympics of Slaps and Peanuts. And yes, we plant a flag for Kirby: two kerbs, one ball, perfect timing, and street diplomacy as cars interrupt your hot streak. Through it all, we swap stories—some daft, some painful, all vivid—about the unrefereed education those games delivered: bluffing, courage, fairness, and knowing when to argue and when to run.
If rough-and-ready playground culture shaped your childhood, you’ll recognise the rules, the rows, and the joy baked into every bell. Listen, reminisce, then tell us your house rules and banned classics. If you laughed or shouted “that’s not how we played it,” follow, share with a mate, and leave a quick review—what game ruled your break time?
Hello, this is the podcast Who Remembers? And in this episode, we are asking who remembers playground games?
SPEAKER_00:Another one, Liam, that we didn't know what to call it. We're gonna call it Playground Games of the 80s and 90s. We're gonna what did you say at one point? Uh uh we used to be like Outdoor Playtime. Outdoor playtime, yeah. We get we get a bit carried away with this. When we used to write our scripts, we used to go over like character names, didn't we, for for for ages and stuff like that. So yeah, we're trying to.
SPEAKER_01:We once needed like a minor celebrity to reference. And I reckon we must have quoted about 400. I think we ended up on RubyWax, didn't we? I thought it was Dominic Diamond. Oh, it might have been, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Anyway, I can't remember.
SPEAKER_01:I hope it is Dominic Diamond, that's better than RubyWax.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, we were uh we were up all night thinking about it. So what we're talking about is playground games, Liam. So these are games that um a lot of people a lot of people seem to like the secondary school one, judging by the uh the views. Whether they liked it, that might not be true, but we certainly got one of our biggest issues. Yeah, they might have hated it. Yeah, they might have hated it, but they listened. We got them on board, so that's all that's all we're after. We're we're after clicks, we're doing clickbait stuff now. So we thought we'll we'll go back take it back to the schoolyard and um go for primary school, but possibly even like is infant primary school or infant and junior both primary? Junior and infant both primary, yeah. So then secondary school primary school seniors, isn't it? Yeah, I think most of these, if not all of them, I think, or at least starting. Some of them do carry over into secondary school. If I said to you playground games later, like I said, Carl, remember what what you used to play in the playground? What's the first one you think of?
SPEAKER_01:I mean it uh the obvious one that took up most of the time was football, but but that's not the one that sort of springs to mind as the the retro game I think of. I think of uh we never call it British Bulldog, we just call it Bulldog.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, same, yeah, yeah, yeah. So do you want to explain your rules for British Bulldog? We'll get straight into it. Um what British Bulldog was or Bulldog. I like how you said you never called it British Bulldog and then called it twice British Bulldog. Well, but I think this is what it's got a Wikipedia page somehow, British Bulldog. Right. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So so the way we played it was everybody would go to one side of the playground, one person in the middle, they are the Bulldog. I don't know if they had to shout something or if there was a trigger, but there's a yeah, we had we had to shout Bulldog, yeah. And then everybody would try and get to the other side. And the the bit I've sort of read as to why it was banned is that we sort of had to wrestle him and stuff to stop him and get to the other side. Yeah. Maybe sort of by the time I moved to Drumfield, which was like year three, I don't remember playing it at Gleedless, I remember playing it at Drumfield. Maybe that was a slightly more sort of middle class version, because I'm sure you just had to tig him. You didn't have to wrestle anybody.
SPEAKER_00:I don't know. I I do remember a bit of wrestling going on. I think another a very similar game we used to play, and I've asked you earlier, then you I don't think you heard of it, is Manhunt, which was the same sort of thing. It's a bit like it's the same thing, it's like a hunters and hider sort of thing. But when you and the game concludes in the same way, once everyone gets caught, that's it. Do you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01:On your notes, you've listed the game Cops and Robbers, and that I think that's what I thought Cops and Robbers was.
SPEAKER_00:Where no, that's different. Yeah, I I had that as like a cowboy. We'll get on to that in a bit, but yeah, I had that as a cowboys and Indian sort of thing.
SPEAKER_01:But yeah, yeah, but still didn't uh I don't it's gonna be awkward this because I don't want to sort of jump too frequently between games, but so so Bulldog then, what are we saying that there was wrestling at your school? Because obviously our school weren't far apart, was it?
SPEAKER_00:Like what I don't know, two and a half miles, three miles? Yeah, I think there was wrestling, particularly like in the late maybe if it carried on into senior school, which I can't remember. It probably did a little bit in it, like year seven or something. I think you're thinking of rugby. I might be thinking well, talking of this, like realistically, I mean we're gonna say this quite a lot, I think, in this podcast. The woke agenda has taken over a lot of these games. So um in England and Wales, um, despite the government's uh encouragement in 2008 of traditional playground games such as British Bulldog, more than a quarter of teacher teachers surveyed in 2011 said the game had been banned at their school because its rough and tumble nature obviously resulted in many broken bones when it was uh popular, certainly in the 70s. And at least one spinal injury was reported in 1985, as well as the death of an eight-year-old child in Twickenham who wasn't even playing British Bulldog, who were playing a different game. You're thinking of rugby again, aren't you? Someone's a game at Twickenham. Yeah, but again, yeah, genuinely an eight-year-old 2013 collided with a player of British Bulldog while he was playing a different game. I just I'd I'd I I presume it's the fast nature of it, or there's everyone running around all along with the game.
SPEAKER_01:No one can collide with anyone on a playground. I had multiple collisions, not always playing bulldogs. It's fucking I tell you what, I just don't know how it ends though. Like if the point is in the in the version I played, you get to the other side before you you tigged, or before you sort of grabbed all that, but but not but if the implication is that they have to physically stop you, where does that end? Like somebody sort of dragging themselves by the fingers to the guns, somebody like wrestling them back and yeah, I don't know. I I don't know at what point then they're safe. Yeah, I do know what you mean. If you sort of pin them down, like they can just wait, can't they? And when you let them go to go again, like do you have to disable them?
SPEAKER_00:That's a good point now. I remember like I mate, again, Matthew Stratford used to love playing Manhunt, which is the same game, and probably up until we were about 30, knowing him, to be completely honest. And he was really, as you can probably imagine, Liam, very physical with his uh with his stopping of people. He ended up in Army, didn't they? One of those, one of those lads who ended up in Army. And um, but yeah, he he used to be like I remember him like getting people in headlocks and all sorts, and it got like sort of really sort of I won't say violent in an aggressive sense, but it was it was it were a rough game. It wasn't just like a hey, come on, let's just run to this side. I remember like people being tackled to the floor and all sorts.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but anyway, that's that's probably Bulldog covered. Um I think I think girls used to join in with that. I don't think that was only boys that played Bulldog.
SPEAKER_00:I don't remember girls joining in with that, to be honest. There's a few in it later on in my list that I think are more mostly girls, but I think I I think it were mainly boys that I don't yeah, I I yeah, I might be wrong. Different schools, different people, different vibes, maybe at your school. Maybe they were more inclusive. Maybe more yeah, more chilled out. The first game I remember playing, I think, is Cowboys and Indians, which wasn't really a game. And it and we used to pretend it was well, I we used to do it like we would pretend we were Ghostbusters or in He-Man or something like that, and you say, I have the power, and you chase people, and someone else would be like if we were playing Ghostbusters, someone else would pretend to be the ghost and you chase them. And it wasn't really a game as source, it was just like acting out imaginations. You ever you got any memories of that, Leon? I don't I don't know what you're talking about. What you what? What do you mean?
SPEAKER_01:I mean, yeah, like obviously you'd I mean this is sort of younger, I would say, but but yeah, you'd sort of pretend you were like superheroes or or whatever. And like I kind of get like playing cowboys or like where you'd sort of pretend to be shooting at each other and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, pew pew.
SPEAKER_01:I don't see that as like a a playground game to me. That's what me and my brother would do on a weekend or something. I did you ever play Cowboys and Indians? I don't know what it is, I don't know what you mean. You don't know what cowboys and Indians is. What so what are the Indians doing then?
SPEAKER_00:I don't know because I always wanted to be a cowboy purely because Yeah, but you were playing against Indians. What would what were the Indians doing? I can't remember. Did they shoot arrows and stuff? Did they throw arrows? I don't know what cowboys and Indians do.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but I shouldn't get out of playground game. I don't understand what's going on. This is a playground game.
SPEAKER_00:Right, Cowboys and Indians playground game. I've just typed it into Yat Yahoo, I don't know why. And um how to play, yeah, divide up territory where the game is being played in a backyard. Uh it's a very similar thing, actually, the the full thing with uh to to Bulldog, but I just remember sort of running around going. I'm doing like the the hand gestures as well. I'm like, you I just put my guns back into my holster, like in either either pocket. It's like sort of so I don't know what the what did the Indians do.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I would imagine like bow and arrows, but I I just don't I don't know if it's a lot of things. This is just sort of fantasy play. This is not a playground game. I think this is yeah, but you used to have fantasy games in playground. I just can't imagine coming in after after break time saying, I'd say what that would be great. I loved when you shot that arrow at him. That was absolutely brilliant.
SPEAKER_00:I think people used to argue and say, Oh, I got you in the head. No, you didn't, no, you didn't. Pop peum, pa pum, pa-pum. Do you know what I mean? I think that happened, definitely. You're not having it. We'll move on, we'll move on. We've started with a we've started with a disagreement. Uh, you will know this one. Hide and seek. Um, this is a game that I remember a story. This is awful this going back even into primary school where we didn't want this kid to play with us for whatever reason. I genuinely can't remember why. I was about ten. So we said we'll play hide and seek, he can hide, and we'll just go go and play somewhere else. How bad's that? How horrible's that. Oh, what so you just said and you almost moved on? Yeah, we just went away and he came back. Like I was, oh yeah, you didn't, you didn't you I could he said something like how come you didn't you stopped looking for me? We said no no we didn't. We just we just couldn't find you. We didn't, we just gone and done something else because we didn't want him with us, and I can't remember why that was. That's an appalling thing to do, isn't it? Even now, even though I were eight or whatever at the time.
SPEAKER_01:Guy went on to be a serial killer, didn't I?
SPEAKER_00:Well, yeah, that that his name was Mr. Harold Shipman. I imagine that. Um but yeah, I honestly that I always remember that sticks in my mind. Do you know when you have those things that you did as kids? I'm sure we've all got them. Things that we feel guilty about, whether it's lying to your parents or whatever it might be. That is the that sticks in my head as like one of my I think if I go to hell, they'll be showing me that on the and they said, This is sorry, as soon as you did this, that were it, you were always going to see uh the big man downstairs.
SPEAKER_01:We we once did a thing where we went swimming and we were seeing how long you could hold your breath underwater, and while one guy did it, all the rest of us agreed like on a plan. So when he popped up about 40 seconds later, we said, Oh my god, there's just been a tanoid for emergency. Can this guy go to reception, please? He's gotta go now. So he he went out to reception in his trunks like dripping wet. And they said, What are you talking about? And it he was so like embarrassed that he uh he just got changed. But I felt that bad. I got changed and went out with him. And I said, Sorry, I was I was part of that. I thought you'd get back in and at least find it a bit funny. So I no, he did not. At least you apologise.
SPEAKER_00:I always remember once where I I lived, uh the kids always play with our street when I was really young. I don't know why I were wearing I were wearing like a wife beater vest. Did you know what I mean by that? That's the only way I can describe it. Like a white string vest. Yeah, yeah. I don't know why I had one of them when I was a kid, I don't know why. And I my friends knocked on door and I opened it.
SPEAKER_01:As a kid, you were onslow from keeping up fairness, weren't you?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I don't know why I were wearing it. Anyway, and that I opened door to my mates and they all just burst out laughing. So I'm wearing, and I slamped door in the faces really murder, and then they came back about 10 minutes later and said, I'm really sorry, we just found it funny. They were right to laugh. I don't know why I were wearing one of those at that that at that era.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, well, you've got to try these things out, haven't you? If you're a trendsetter, yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_00:Look at me now. I'm wearing a I'm wearing a feeler top that was worn by Paul the Walnuts in uh in the Sprout House. So, but yeah, hide and seek. Did you know there's a hide and seek world championship competition? Well, there was, it finished in 2017. I don't know, we probably couldn't find him. Um, but yeah, that's that's a good joke. That you should be laughing along at that. I didn't I didn't write that. That's poof. I was looking for your notes, I didn't even know what you said. Oh, there was a high because they couldn't find him. Yeah, I said I said the championship finished in 2017, and then I said probably because they couldn't find him. But you've ruined that now. It's a bit like a Shuatley thing. I like how in the modern world you've assumed the champion would be male. That's very good. So you've shown yourself up, haven't you? Once again, this is this is terrible. They're definitely gonna hell this time. Talk about fucking wife beat of vests and although it probably was a guy.
SPEAKER_01:I I don't know why, I just I'm only thinking of myself actually. I I thought of myself as a bit of a hiding seeker.
SPEAKER_00:You gotta put yourself if you can't put yourself in a woman's heels, that's you know, that's just that's some people can't do that. I you know. But anyway, let's move on. We're getting into into dodgy ground. Uh the winning team of this competition was awarded the golden fig leaf, which is biblically the symbol uh of hiding. Uh did you get it, Liam?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, sort of uh hiding their genitals. Yeah, I was trying to think of a sort of night.
SPEAKER_00:What did they say in biblical? Did they say I've never read the Bible?
SPEAKER_01:I don't think it says Todger in the Bible.
SPEAKER_00:Adam covered it. Does he cover it in the Bible? Let us know. If anyone's religious, let us know.
SPEAKER_01:Does he cover is it supposed to be the like they didn't need any coverings until the the snake tricked him? Is that when they started covering up?
SPEAKER_00:Oh, I don't know. I really, really don't. We should do the Bible. Who remembers the Bible? Genuinely. I think that'd be an incredible episode. But yeah, anyway. But um they tried to someone in Japan set up a campaign to get it um into an Olympics port uh for the 2020 Olympics, but it failed.
SPEAKER_01:I think hard and seek though, you need you need a changing scenario like this. Cause I used to think I was great at finding places, but then after a bit, I couldn't find anywhere new, and people were just using the places I'd thought of before. Oh, that's annoying, isn't it? I don't think I was. So I pulled out uh on a on a settee, I think this was at my auntie's house, she had quite a big settee, pulled out the cushions a tiny bit on the s on the sofa, laid in the space like behind them, obviously I was smaller then, and then put the sort of top cushions on top of me. So it at a glance it was just a normal sofa, but I was actually tight up against the back of the sofa behind the cushions. Oh, very good, yeah, very, very good. I don't think I was discovered. I think I think I had to I think I think that was a year ago.
SPEAKER_00:You were the one that left, like I did. Was it you? Everyone just left.
SPEAKER_01:And everyone else was playing something else, and they just said, Well done.
SPEAKER_00:By the way, way back when I were doing an AI image for our uh I don't even know, it might be me for the mailly podcast, to be honest. And I wanted someone to be sat on a set E, so I put and put these people on a set E. And it kept giving me someone sitting on a cup of tea. And I'm like, no, set E. But obviously we're American, they call it self. I don't I don't think settee is a thing in America. I oh that's the only thing I can think of. So it wasn't.
SPEAKER_01:You should know the difference.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I put I kept putting it in and I could not get my head around it. I said, put this man on a settee, and he was just sitting on a cup of tea. I was like, what the game don't you get really angry? Yeah, I like what what are you seeing? Then it clicked. So like I thought, oh, CT.
SPEAKER_01:I've got an anecdote that is exactly the same as a Ricky Gervais anecdote, but it it is real, and he uses Carl Pugton's material all the time. So it's fine.
SPEAKER_00:He nicked something else, actually, didn't he? Well, we might have to share that, Clive, that he nicked. We've we found a uh a younger comedian that we think is. Oh, yeah, dodgy that.
SPEAKER_01:But yeah, we had a girl from Australia came to our school when I was at Charnock, and we were talking about like so for our city, and she said, Uh, I don't know, should I do the accent because it was so bad last time? Try it. We've got to get back in the game at some point, you've got to get back in form. Um, I call it a couch, she said. She said it was a couch. A couch. And everyone were like, What, what? And I thought, oh, that sounds quite good. So I said, Yeah, I I sometimes say couch, but not all the time. Everyone looks at me like, no, you fucking don't.
SPEAKER_00:You're lying fast, trying to get oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, sometimes actually I I'm yeah, I'm I'm global, me. I'm I'm multicultural. Yeah, you've seen me before do this in situations, and it is to be polite. And uh Michael Barrymore did it actually in um in Big Brother might have mentioned it, where Chantel comes in into the Big Brother house, and obviously she's not famous, and and he says, What are you famous for? He goes, Oh, she goes, I'm in a band. He goes, Oh, I I do know you mean and then we know what a wanker Barrymore is. But he's just trying to be nice, innit? Do you know what I mean? It's a horrible thing to do if you say you realistically, you can't turn round there and say, You what? A couch, you idiot. What are you talking about? Yeah, I often agree with things like what I don't know. You might say, Do you know that you I don't know, do you know that uh programme that's on? I said, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And I haven't got a clue what you're talking about.
SPEAKER_01:No, I just I would say I still don't know, sorry. I yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah I wouldn't try and lag it there.
SPEAKER_00:I don't know, I think I'm just trying to be polite. I'm not trying to pretend that's right.
SPEAKER_01:No, I get it, it's it's coming from a good place, but I yeah, I think I would be conscious that someone could say, Oh, what's your favourite song then? Uh uh I I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:I just say, Oh, that one bit I'm rubbish with titles, to be honest. Yeah, yeah, whatever. That one is. On that one that he did.
SPEAKER_01:Do do do do do do do yeah, that's it. Do do do do Yeah, that's the one.
SPEAKER_00:We've got a mate actually who um he does this quite often where he'll and I don't think he does it to be polite, where he'll pretend he knows stuff that he doesn't know. And I don't know really I don't know if it's like a like a I don't know, like a confidence thing, because he he feels like he's out of his debt. So he'll say something like, Oh, you've heard that Beatle song, aren't you? Whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely, yeah, yeah. And I think you've not heard that. I don't know why you you know, no need to agree. But you live on you you you live your life how you want to. I'm not sure which friend you're referring to, but we can we can talk offline. We'll talk offline, but talk offline. Um another obviously massively famous one, William, is Tag. Did you click Tig or Tag? Tig. I called it Tag, I think.
SPEAKER_01:No, it always sometimes Tiggy, but but definitely Tig. And there's a few verbs, so obviously everyone knows what Tig is. Did you have any any rules like uh did you play no tig back?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, no tiggy back, no tiggy back. Oh, we must have called it Tig actually, yeah, because thinking about it, it's no tiggy back, it's not no taggy back, is it? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Um yeah, that's that's the only rule I can think about. Other than that, you just tig people and run off. But but you don't always play no tig back. But then sometimes you end up with two people just stood together going tick, tig, tig. And then you've got the sort of the tricksters who would like say, Oh, pretend to tick me and run up to someone and they weren't actually on. Like that's yeah, yeah, on tick or tiger, you're on. Oh, you're in, I think. Some people say I think we're on.
SPEAKER_00:On, I'd say on.
SPEAKER_01:I'd say on, yeah. Uh who's on? I don't know, I don't know. Is it you? No, I'm not on. Honestly, I'm not.
SPEAKER_00:We used to play it at school sometimes with a tennis ball where you lobbed it, and it was quite dangerous. You get quite sting.
SPEAKER_01:I played it with football as well. Um but but there are a few variations as well that I've I thought of after you sent your notes through. Did you ever play any of these? So this wasn't one I played. This was uh so in Corby, uh where I used to go and see my grandma, there's a lot of Glasgow people there, so they're all Scottish accent. And we once went to play uh Tig at this this kid's house nearby. And I went to Tig him and he said, You can't t me, I'm stuck in the mud.
SPEAKER_00:What the hell was that accent?
SPEAKER_01:And he said, No, I'm stuck in the mud. I said, I I don't I've got no idea what you mean.
SPEAKER_00:And there was some sort of thing where like Oh, I have heard this, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Sorry, yeah, stuck in the mud, yeah. But so there's a version of that, but what I thought of is it's a I think it's a bit like Tiggy Lamppost. No, it's not Tiggy Lamppost. So I think stuck in the mud, if you if you stood still or something, you couldn't be taken. But that made me think of a couple of other versions. So Tiggy Lamppost, did you ever play that?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, well you could if you yeah, you're holding a lamppost, you can't be telling you.
SPEAKER_01:No, no, no. I'm not saying that isn't a version, but our version was if you got so there's one person on, say there's eight of you playing it, one person is on, they have to try and tig all eight people, and when the other seven, sorry, and when they t someone, they have to stand with the legs wide open. And if if one of the people who isn't being tugged crawls through their legs, they're free again to go. Oh, that does ring a bell. That does ring a bell, that yeah. So that's Tiggy Lamppos. And the other one, I and this one caused so many arguments, was Tiggy Bob Down. Oh, that's fuck. Yeah. No, I bob down. Honestly, I'll bob down. You weren't, you stood up. I was on my way to it. Tiggy Bob Down Count.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, that's a mad shout. That do you know that when you sometimes get those flashes of nostalgia, and you're like, Oh, I've not heard that probably for about thirty. That's why we do this podcast. Uh, I've not heard that for about 30 years, Tiggy Bob Bob Down.
SPEAKER_01:When we start the Patreon, everyone who's uh Patreon could come and have a game of Tiggy Bob Down with us. Yeah, yeah, that's it, Bill. A monthly game of Tiggy Bob Down.
SPEAKER_00:Imagine if it's just us two that turn up and that's it.
SPEAKER_01:And can't be you, Carl, Bill and Blade.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and barely played, and that's it.
SPEAKER_01:Come on, maybe Chappie, I don't know. Yeah, but who knows?
SPEAKER_00:Well, I'll I'm up for it. Uh tag and other chasing games have been banned in some schools again, uh, due to concerns about injuries, complaints from this is this is woke, but I get it. You know, complaints from children that it can lead to harassment and bullying. Because obviously you you can just keep tigging the same persons, if you know what I mean, all the time and sort of bully them out of the game or bully the fun out of them.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but maybe they're the ones who need to get in better shape. Maybe this was kind of keeping the nation fit.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, maybe. And during COVID nineteen, it were noted that children around the world sort of play variations of the tag, which was uh role playing spreading coronavirus, which we do not condone at the Well like one of them was the virus. Yeah, one of us was the virus, so to you know, but they might have had the virus. You know what, you know. Tiggy virus. I don't know how they played that because they were obviously supposed to be indoors. Should have been arrested, if anything, if they couldn't get do you know what I mean? Everyone's supposed to be in the house. Listen, remember when um our mate Russell Paul Jones and someone had just photographed him walking down the street. She did you get 15 minutes to walk or whatever in coronavirus, like exercise or whatever it was. Yeah, a set time limit, weren't there? And he set up a fake Facebook group at one of our mates with his face on it and said, Just spotted this man walking. It's an absolute disgrace. Loads of fake comments. Brilliant how he did it. Obviously, there's what there's nothing to do in COVID, you may as well do this. Yeah. And he got unbelievable. Because you have to find the arse, I'll smash the windows in. Absolutely fused. Yeah, it looks quite hero.
SPEAKER_01:But then didn't it turn out like he got really moddy about it? But then it turned out he had he had walked like an hour and a half away to go and see some woman or something.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, because they were like because I actually went from a walk, then it turned out because yeah, just because we're out a bit a bit longer, about an hour and a half. No, no, you're not allowed to do that. You've just given really a joke, but you've given it in now. Hopscotch Liam. Um I never really played this due to a little known disease called dyspraxia. I was not good at this. I always found it uh more of a girls' game. Am I being sexist there?
SPEAKER_01:Or yeah, but I mean I I don't even remember. I think at infant school I saw girls playing hopscotch.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I I I I don't really even understand what it is because obviously you I get that you kind of hop, then you do like two feet, then you hop, then you do two feet. But I don't know what the numbers are for. I seem to remember something where people had to pick something up on the way down or something, but I I don't know. I've never played that and I don't know what that is.
SPEAKER_00:No, I don't remember the current Guinness Book World uh record holder uh for hopscorch is from Ash Rita Thurman. One minute and two seconds. I don't know if you're gonna be able to do it. I mean, I were doing it wrong because I reckon I've done it in about four seconds before. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, genuinely I'll look at it and I think that looks quite slow. There's obviously more rules to it. I'm not gonna go into more of this because I'm just I'm out of my depth with hopscotch, to be completely honest. If you've played hopscotch, please do let us know the rules of hopscotch because well, in fact, don't it'd be boring, aren't they? I'm never gonna play.
SPEAKER_01:Unless yeah, there's some shock revelation that we missed out on. If it is just hopping up and down and picking up stone or a coin or something like that, maybe then keep your comments to yourself.
SPEAKER_00:Talking of which, by the way, we will genuinely do a um a listener's feedback episode at some point. It's gonna be the probably the biggest episode we've ever done. Yeah, we'll have to cherry pick the best one. So we'll be able to do that.
SPEAKER_01:Feedback might just be the the highlights or the lowlights.
SPEAKER_00:Something that I don't think we're a girls' game, something called peanuts, which uh we've spoken about privately before, where you interlock fingers with your opponent and you sort of twist each other's arms without unlocking your fingers, and it's the first one to say peanuts first. So it's basically just bending other people's fingers back.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. I mean, I've I've certainly played that. I wouldn't class myself as an expert now. I've got quite quite tight fingers.
SPEAKER_00:I've got uh You've got Viking hands, haven't you?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I can't do scalps on her. I never went to scouts, but I often wonder what would happen if I did, because when I try and do like the scouts on her. I've just my hands form like sort of the my fingers don't straighten uh yeah, it's weird. So yeah, I was never I was never an expert in that field to be honest. I weren't very good at this. I didn't like it.
SPEAKER_00:It's j unbelievably painful.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, even just stretching my fingers back a little bit now, it's really tight, like my forearms. I think I think my tendons are fused, I think that's what it is, and it comes from uh I I say Viking, I think it's Scandinavian descent, some some Scandinavian.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, you like yeah, you like to cluster yourself as a Viking uh warrior. Did you ever play slaps? Just let me turn my helmet off. What did you say? Did you ever play slaps? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is where you hold your hands together, you face the your opponent. Only one player could slap at one time, but so the other would keep the the other could dodge, but it would have to stay in place. So you'd ha you'd have to look at your opponent's hands at all times to see when it were gonna go.
SPEAKER_01:And people used to like and sort of you you could flinch, but you couldn't you couldn't pull away unless they went for a slap, in which case you could, and if they missed, it was your turn. Yeah. But there were things like I think if you got three dodgers in a row wrong, they got a free slap where you just have to hold your hands up. Yeah, yeah, that'd be like jump and like whack it as hard as they could, like horrible that, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Has that not been banned? That should have been banned if anything. I remember once getting a real bad slap. I think again it was from my MT Stratford. Uh unbelievable slap across the face. I think it might be harder than any punch I've ever taken, to be completely honest. It was ridiculously hard. I always remember it. Yeah, people like, you know, with the like the I don't I'd say you did it by accident, but it would probably unpack it.
SPEAKER_01:The heel of the hand.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, the heel of the hand right in my cheekbone. It was like, oh god, that hurts so much. Well, that's unbelievable.
SPEAKER_01:It's harder, isn't it? That's yeah, you you give your hands give, your hands can break. If you hit somebody with that, there's no giving that.
SPEAKER_00:And it were one of them that were that hurting, but obviously you're at school and you don't want to you don't want to say that hurts a lot. You're like, oh yeah, yeah, I'm not bothered, mate. I'm not bothered. Didn't feel it, but is that the best you've got? No, not bothered, mate. Not then going to the toilet going, oh fucking hell. Absolutely kills. Obviously, you started when talking about football. What's the what's the game, would you say, like football related that you played the most, obviously, other than just five aside or whatever it'd be?
SPEAKER_01:Well, I don't associate it necessarily as a as a playground game, because at playground there are enough of us to always have a game of football. So almost always it'd just be football. But if there were a smaller group here, or if your mates on the field, I mean there's two really. There's there's one of the the main one, which is which is Wembley. Apparently sometimes called World Cup Singles.
SPEAKER_00:World Cup Singles, apparently, yeah, apparently that were known in different in different countries, but yeah, I always knew it was Wembley.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so I I thought Wembley was a great game because it brilliant just needed one keeper. I never liked to be in that, so the less chance I'd have to go in there. And yeah, you could play doubles, you could play singles, you could make it sometimes.
SPEAKER_00:I used to like triples, yeah. I used to love that rather than doubles, because you could have a bit of teamwork.
SPEAKER_01:You could even it up as well a little bit, because you could have sort of like a three and a two if you had five of you, or two twos and a one if there were one really good player. Um yeah, I mean we we were playing this as late as Oh, yeah. What 20 years? When do we used to go to Meadowhead?
SPEAKER_00:Like I'm saying 20 years ago is if it's yesterday, it's ridiculous that was it when yeah, because my we played it once when my dog died, and we had a minute silence for my dog if you remember before we played it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, ridiculous. I don't know if that were on field near me or that were Meadowhead, but yeah, we I mean it's still ages ago, but yeah, we were playing that well into our twenties, I would say.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, but the problem I had with this game is I weren't good at all. Uh I were a decent defender, I wasn't good going forward. So I just defended, and uh you people used to get so mad with me because games would go on for ages.
SPEAKER_01:I I hated those. I used to sprint off the ball and then want to try and run a goal and score, and uh some would just drop off waiting to try and tackle you.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I'm one of them, yeah. I'd just like and then I'd a tackle, you get ball again, and I tackle you again, and it'd go on like into the dark hours, wouldn't it? It's so boring. Keepers just like to start reading a paper, you're fagging it.
SPEAKER_01:Keeper bangs it out, one of it like brings it forward slowly, and other one's just stood in front like trying to like professional defending, like it's sort of uh Gary Neville trying to sort of force you one way or another. Like it's what I used to do, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I remember I mate Brendan used to get unbelievably angry with me for doing it. He's like, Why are you not attacking? I go, Well, you've got ball, I can't just what you why are you defending? What are you doing? You can never win. Um but it used to it were a bit like uh do you know when you frustrate a bit like Peter Ebden? You know you frustrate people that much. Peter Ebden eventually world. Yeah, they just give you the ball and you tap it in. Another game, football-related game, that you used to play, which didn't make any sense, was three and in. So you I think we spoke about this, haven't we? Um this made no sense. So it was just basically like Wembley, but if you score three goals, you win in goal, that were the rules. But no one wanted to go in goal. So I remember that so many games where people have missed chances purposely, because they didn't want to go in net, and goalkeeper were getting really frustrated, like, oh just score.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, because I mean if you're sorry, if you had someone who wanted to be in net it still don't work because uh they're gonna get taken out of the net when somebody scores three. I suppose maybe they fight really hard to to not come out of the net. What were the standard rules of Wembley? So if you score, you get through to the next round, is that right?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that's it. So it depends how many playing, obviously, but it's like Wembley doubles and it's ten a year, whatever. Well in goal, eleven a year.
SPEAKER_01:You score, you stand behind there and you wait for the next round.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. And three of them and then the winner wins.
SPEAKER_01:Was there there weren't any rounds, it was just uh like it just you scored and you go in there until next person says.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it were always singles. It normally happened when it were just three of you, my experience, where there were three of you playing and it were one on one, and then you score three goals and then you go in there, and yeah, but nobody wants to be in there, just keep sort of cycling it. This probably was just our skull, by the way. If I say to you five down beats, have you any idea what I mean?
SPEAKER_01:No, I I know you put it in your notes, so obviously I do after that. When you put it, I sort of thought, oh, what's that? But then I no, I I don't No, I don't really do that.
SPEAKER_00:So this is heads and volleys. Heads and volleys, basically, which you can always go with an head or a couple. Yeah, and if you miss, you win in goal. So if you took a shot and you went wide, it was your turn in goal. Once in goal, this is our rules at Meadowhead, if you conceded five goals in a row, the kids you were playing with would beat you up. It wouldn't always be serious. Well, it'd never be serious, they're like sort of proper, you know, blood and stuff, but it'd be like a jump on them. A bit like a pylon, yeah, like a few digs into ribs and stuff like that. Obviously, some naughty kids that get carried away. But yeah, but um but yeah, that that were a game. Heads and volleys, obviously, but yeah, but with the added, you know, we're gonna beat you up if you We should do that with real games.
SPEAKER_01:When I played heads and volleys, it was never that if you missed you went in there. It would just it were basically Wembley, but you could only score with headers and volleys.
SPEAKER_00:No, we used to play that way. You cross people cross it in and you'd all be on the same team, but you could only score like so it was just like a crossing game basically, and you'd edit, and if you if it went wide or whatever, you'd have to go it net and stuff.
SPEAKER_01:Did you never play that though, Wembley with you can only score from a volley or a cross? Sorry, header or a volley. I might have I don't I may have, but it does bring a shell. We used to get like obviously people flicking it up for themselves and then there are arguments about whether that counter is a big thing. Yeah, that does ring a bell, actually, that yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:People edit online, don't they?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, lay down and edit it and say, Yeah, it's an header.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I would just say it is. I think you did that once, actually, didn't you? Didn't we play like that thinking about it? I remember you doing a header online or a bit of controversy.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I might have dived in. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Um off the football field. Well no, sorry, before you move off the football field. Oh, sorry, carry on.
SPEAKER_01:I've got one more. I don't know if you played it and know it by this name. Did you ever play Spot?
SPEAKER_00:Oh, of course, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Brilliant for a um Well, there was obviously going through. You needed a certain scenario, so you you needed a wall to play against. And you'd agree on the wall. I mean, our school both of them when I were young around here were perfect because they had like a sort of stepped wall that stepped up to the middle where it's highest its middle and it stepped down. So it wasn't even just like a flat wall to play against, it was a bit harder than that. And yeah, everybody started um so you start with four lives, SPOT, somebody kicks the ball against the wall, you you agree on a sequence, and the next person has got to they can either play it really quick or they can let it roll to where it stops, but they've got to kick it from where it li from where it ends or from where they intercept it and hit the wall, then it's the next person. If you miss the wall, you lose one of your lives, so you go down to SPO. So people say, What you on, what you on? I'm on spot. I'm on spur. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And then and I love this rule as well because I I don't I don't think I needed it very often, but I like the idea of like a you know, some sometimes like it feels like the same person always sort of loses or whatever, but if there was like a handicap where the first one out got a dog's life, so you got an extra life if you were the first one out. I thought it was a big one.
SPEAKER_00:Oh dog life, yeah. Do you remember dog life? Yeah, it's very well, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't believe it, it's only been because of the dog life. Yeah, dogger used to call it, yeah, got a dog, I've got a dogger. Ridiculous. But they just reminded me of that. I don't know why. I once did, and I'd I would love I did a shot that I still think to this day defy physics. That with this were a normal game, 11 aside, just played at yard, and the ball came to me, and I like run up to do like in my head, it was gonna go top corner, like about 30 yards out. I sliced it so badly it went like it almost like went straight but to the to the right of me and went through the window of the school. It was ridiculous, honestly. I I can't I I I often think about that. I don't know how I did it. It was one of the straightest shots ever, but sideways. You did something similar on FIFA, didn't you, where it went slightly backwards and you left the room standing at the end of the garden. We should probably do FIFA Nights. FIFA Nights are a good episode, actually. Because uh that led him in I think you've thrown a few controllers in your time and uh I stood at Garden smoking a cigarette in the rain because I'd done a bad backpass, which I still don't know how that happened. I pressed cross and and it kicked it backwards. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01:Are we getting I mean I've I've got one here which I never played, but just to mention Red Rover. Do you ever hear of that?
SPEAKER_00:No, I don't think so.
SPEAKER_01:Apparently kids held hands and and people had to try and break through that chain and get to the other side. And then the other one I have played this, but I'm not a big fan of it. I I I kind of associate more the the girls at primary school playing it, but I mean it's uh on my notes here it says what's the time, Mr. Wolf. We used to say what time is it, Mr. Wolf?
SPEAKER_00:Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. And for that, do you remember the rules for that? You have to chase them if they say it's three o'clock or whatever, and you'd have to run towards I mean, I think it's quite similar to what uh what's the Japanese thing that's been out soon where there's a Squid Life.
SPEAKER_01:I think there's a there's a version of it in the car. But essentially somebody stood at the end with a back to you and you could move forward and you'd say what time is it, Mr. Wolf? and they'd say three o'clock. So you'd have to take three steps. And you could take big or small steps, that was up to you. And you were trying to get, I think, to touch them before they got you. So some people would be quite brave and try and get far forward, some would take little tiny steps, and then at some point you'd say, What time is it, Mr. Wolf? And they'd say dinner time, turn around and sprint apart to try and grab someone to be the new wolf. And obviously, if if you were brave enough to get quite far up, you you were in the firing line.
SPEAKER_00:So it was uh Oh, good game that were a good game that was a couple of things.
SPEAKER_01:Um Alan Partridge, very scary, seconds count. Yeah, that is true, very true. Did you ever play Conkers? I never played Conkers. Yeah, again. I only remember one year of sort of golden Conquer era where everyone was playing it. I know we all used to collect them, but I for some reason I just remember one specific year where and everyone was saying, like, oh, have you seen uh have you played against him? He's he's got a 20-er. Well that's nothing. Um my cousin's got an 100er. Do you know like especially how many you've been?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember a 29er, I don't know why you remember that like sort of it. Yeah, I do remember that, yeah. So in 1965, the World Conquer Championships were set up in Ashton. Um they still say take place to this day every second Sunday of October. Um in 2004, an audience of 5,000 turned up to uh watch more than 500 competitors in the world. 5,000 is more than like some League Two games. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Um and in 2024, uh there were a bit of controversy in the World Conquer Championships because uh the veteran competitor David Jenkins, who's dubbed King Co uh King Conquer, was accused of cheating. Um apparently he used a replica conquer made from steel, but he was later um yeah uh found innocent of those charges. But it's a serious business, obviously, if you're getting into you know, if you imagine cheating at Conkers. I mean that's quite an easy one to prove, innit?
SPEAKER_01:I thought you were going to say painted a stone or something, but that seems even more obvious. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But in 2000, uh again, we're going to the World Society, uh, British schools by Kill University showed that many schools were not allowing children to play conkers anymore, because head teachers were afraid of the legal consequences if children were injured by playing, and of often thought that conquers would be used as weapons. Um in 2004, several schools banned conkers completely uh due to the uh shocks um with with kids with nut allergies, even though health advisors said there was no dangers at all from conquers for nut allergy sufferers, you might just get a rash on your hand. But even then, they'll ban it. Just play with guns now, don't they? But that again, uh it's health and safety gone mad, as they used to say. But that is health and safety gone mad. They uh I they're trying to be nice to these people. Is conquer dangerous realistically? I mean there's must be a one in a billion chance of like a conquer being used as well.
SPEAKER_01:Everything's dangerous, innit? I I remember once um again they were down in Corbidis, but my my two uncles uh were really competitive and they were playing conkers. And one of them one of them got beat, so he sort of ran out into the woods to find himself a new conquer to try and beat this other one. And then he was sort of desperately trying to sort of put it on a string and he pushed the screwdriver through it so hard he put it through his thumb. Oh yeah, I just remember there being blood everywhere and sort of the drama. So you can get hurt playing conkers, but only if you are a mental 40-year-old man.
SPEAKER_00:I think I were gonna have stickers, but I don't think it's a game. No.
SPEAKER_01:Um as in like sticker books, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I think that could be an episode in itself, yeah, to be honest. Stickerbooks. But but I do think his game is uh I did didn't used to play all the time, but it were quite quite good when people used to bring him to school. But top trumps, did you ever play top trumps?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I associate that more with like sort of w uh like rainy playtime or wet playtime where you had to stand where he played top trumps.
SPEAKER_00:I think he used to play wrestling top trumps, so you'd obviously get a card and you'd say, right, strength, uh, I've got Hogan here, 99 or whatever. And then obviously it'd go around. Not much skill involved, I don't think, although Gareth of the Office claims that he can wear uh beat anybody at Top Trumps, doesn't he?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he said uh although he's he's memorised every card in a way that statistically he will always know what card what card he's got on his card that will beat something on your card.
SPEAKER_00:You can never win. Could still be funny. You can you can never win. Yeah, could still be fun though. But yeah, I used to like Top Trumps, but I think if I played it now, I think it'd be really boring really, really, really quickly.
SPEAKER_01:My cousin had some like airplane ones and supercar ones and stuff that yeah, they were they're alright for a bit, but I would never it hold my attention for a little bit, but no.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Not really a game, another one I've got is pylons, which we sort of talked about. It's not a game, is it? It's just used to happen in middler games and stuff.
SPEAKER_01:Pylons get fouled and be rolling about the floor, and then someone sat on and about 20 people had all jump on them. Yeah, yeah, I remember that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, very dear. Uh my Simon says, right. I don't remember playing Simon Says as a Noah's a party game for me. Yeah, but do you remember the electronic game Simon Says? I think you can say, says Says, whatever it is. Do you know the uh where it sort of like flashes? Like you had to repeat a pattern or something. Yeah, you had to repeat that was visually so striking and so boring as a game, I thought that game.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and I I I sort of know what you mean, but I think I think that's straying away from what we're talking about here, to be honest. Yeah, it is, it is, but Simon's. It's like there's battleships and stuff like that, and that that's not like playground, is it?
SPEAKER_00:That's no. No, I think that's very fair. Would you class marbles as a as a game? Playground game.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, not not that I would ever have played that, but yeah, uh in fact, I probably have to be honest. I probably have had a had a game of marbles, but uh not for me.
SPEAKER_00:And what about rock, paper, scissors? Well, is that a game? That that's just something to decide something for me. It's not really a game. But I'm going into like Google Territory, by the way, like putting in playground games and these are things coming up. I don't know if I class that as a game.
SPEAKER_01:No, I mean the other ones I've got from my notes for playground games are again would associate this with a girls. Um skipping, but not like a person with a skipping rope, where they had two people with two ropes going and round and round and somebody had to get it. Call it double dodge? Yeah, something like that.
SPEAKER_00:It's a Malcolm McLaren song. Yeah, they do the double dodge. Do you know where two trellepod girls go around the outside, round the outside, round the outside? Did that is sample from this double dutch song. Obviously, that's nothing to do with the game. You've had to start with that. Two trellepod girls go around the outside, round the outside, round the outside. Whoop, bop, bop. Anyway. I'm creating a marsh though, because nobody wants to see Marshall on one.
SPEAKER_01:We need to do that. I never heard anybody singing that when they was doing skipping ropes, but two trillion part girls go anyway.
SPEAKER_00:We've got uh Kiss Chase, which Yeah, right. I was talking about this a couple of days ago to my mum. I said she will learn about wooden tops and boring shit like that from 50s. But she said like Kiss Chase. I think even by our, you know, we're we're we're getting on in years, but I think this will probably even phased out um by the time we got to school because it's a bit it's a bit rapey, isn't it, if you if we're gonna be honest. It's a bit predatory. It's a bit predatory. Yeah, I I know it's chase girls and kiss them.
SPEAKER_01:No, I think of it more of uh infant school, like girls chase chasing you to try and kiss you, that's what I think of it as.
SPEAKER_00:Well, either way, you know. I don't condone it. I don't condone that at all. I think it bad habits later in life. Do you know what I mean? It's I think you just you just you're just teaching the wrong thing.
SPEAKER_01:And the last one I've got, which I kind of always wanted to get, but I never did. I did have a few of them, but I never really know what were going on, was uh Pogs. Do you ever play Pogs?
SPEAKER_00:I know what these are, and I've looked into these and I can't remember them. And I remember when we would we were doing this podcast, it might have been Eggie, uh someone a bit younger than us, I can't remember what it was. Because you've got to do Pogs as an episode, and I was like, I I don't know, I don't know what it is. I know what it is, I've heard of it. I don't know how you play it, I don't know anything.
SPEAKER_01:There were like little round plastic discs. I remember like there was you could get them in Doritos at one bit or something. There was like some ones or something. Yeah. People collected them, they had loads of them. And it they were quite like I don't know, I quite like the look of them. They had like little cartoon characters on. And I sort of got the collecting of them, but I never quite got what you actually did with them. I don't I don't know what the game was. So again, yeah, I maybe that is now, maybe maybe don't, but yeah, that's uh Maybe that's now.
SPEAKER_00:Another one I've got is paper fortune teller, which is again you're producing all sorts of garbage here.
SPEAKER_01:What are you talking about?
SPEAKER_00:That's a game. Imagine everyone running around playground with them little paper things. That's that's a good thing.
SPEAKER_01:You don't have to run.
SPEAKER_00:We've talked about this before. I mean we've got to the the bottom. If you do if you have to change your shoes, it's classed as a sport, but if you don't have to, it's a game. This is a game, paper fortune teller. You don't have to choose change of shoes to go to sleep.
SPEAKER_01:The definition doesn't work the other way. The definition. Go on. Yeah, so so I get if you're saying you need to change your footwear that that that can could be defined as a sport according to the rules of the Mark Webster Association. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But just because you don't have to change your shoes doesn't make it a game. What about like cooking somewhere? That's not a game.
SPEAKER_00:Right, whatever. We'll get into that uh when we finally do our five hours.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I think that's it's an interesting play sort of school memory you've you've brought back. But I don't see that as a an outdoor.
SPEAKER_00:I think it is. I think it is. Because what used to happen if people didn't know, a bit like, you know, people do like a I don't know, like an origami sort of thing with loads of folds of paper with different colours and numbers, and you'd say, you'd say, pick a number, three, one, two, three, pick a colour, blue, da da da. I think there are eight flaps and inside like containing a message, and then the person operating the fortune teller would like turn over like a and it'd be a hidden message. And these messages often it'd be something like who will I marry? You know, in years to come, there'd be six girls' names on it, or whatever. But sometimes there'd be activities to perform. So you've got a you know, you've got a right, you've got you've got to run over there in in ten seconds, you've got to go and do it right start now. There'd be sometimes challenging. Assassinate the French ambassador. Oh god, I knew again. Yeah, I knew it. Imagine that. You must assassinate the French ambassador. Is that not a game? It's a bit like you bet, isn't it? Like a an early form of you bet, like sort of you've got because sometimes it'd be something like quite I don't know, it'd be like sort of you bet. It was Matthew Kelly's had been playing this. No, you should bring this back as a game, should it be amazing. Um but yeah, I remember like because obviously the the the older you are, the more dickheads you got. And it was stuff like, oh, you've got to go and cult teacher a cow or something like that. And it were always like, do you know what I mean? You've got to go and you've got to go and slap him across his face or something like that without telling him why. And it'd be like, let's suppose it's more of a dare. I'm with you.
SPEAKER_01:I think they were the same type of speaking as Sam. We've got older. I remember them being quite young and them, like you say, being something like, Oh, you're in love with Stacy or whoever it was, I don't know. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So yeah, uh yeah, but honourable mentions, Lynn, because the first thing you actually thought of, if you want to talk about it, which is not actually a playground game, but I think we can sort of squeeze it in here. Yeah, Kirby. Yeah, Kirby.
SPEAKER_01:I think Kirby is one of the best games I've ever played. I think it's absolutely brilliant. So for anyone who doesn't know, and a memory joke for those who might have played it. There might be variations again, so let us know if you played something different. But to me, you stood on the opposite side of a road to the opponent. You you needed a football, and both sides of the pavement must have a curve.
SPEAKER_00:Imagine no balls. We haven't got any balls, mate. Well, we can still play, it's all be good. Go on.
SPEAKER_01:Just lay down and drink some Coca-Cola. So we got a football, two curbs, must have a curb, hence the name Kirby. And you took it in turns to throw it and try and get it to hit the corner of the curb so it would bounce back towards you. If it did, you got to take a jump forwards off the curb, and then obviously you were nearer, so it got easier. And the aim was to hit it so many times that you could jump onto their curb and then you got a point.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Brilliant game.
SPEAKER_01:Brilliant.
SPEAKER_00:Almost like brilliant game. Dangerous if you're playing on a road. Well, yeah, you had to keep stopping for cars and then sort of saying, Well, yeah, I was about there.
SPEAKER_01:No, you weren't, you were miles back. People you say things like, I remember that stone there. Yeah, I was still on that one.
SPEAKER_00:We had to like draw stuff. Like, some sometimes you probably chalk. Sometimes putting a bit of chalk. If you've got your chalk, yeah, right, I was there, and you're like, 'cause it with that sort of yeah, you don't want any cheating in this. But yeah, the only thing I didn't like about this is sometimes you're on a roll and then a car would come and you're like, oh. Especially like, you know, if you're like if you're on a busiish road, we used to live at Woodsea. Did live on Woodsea, we did live on Woodseach show, never played it on there, but especially straight after school where I'd often play this.
SPEAKER_01:Just as I'm thinking about it now, that don't make any sense to me. If you'd both hit the curb and both took a step forward, or two steps forward, what were you doing there? Just did you did you have to you had to get it all in one, did you? That was it. You had to do it all in one. You must have, because otherwise you'd both be sitting road just throwing a ball at each other.
SPEAKER_00:I don't know, I remember like people opposite I don't know actually, you might be right. I think you had to do it all in one go. I think you Or did you have so many goals? Did you have like ten goals to complete it?
SPEAKER_01:Maybe lives or something, but I think you had to do it like get it the first time, big jump, hit it the second time, big jump, get it again, and then if you got across you got a point. I I think because I can't imagine it working any other way. You can't probably stupid middle. Because the other thing as well was like if you missed the curb, the other person was there to kind of stop it. If you're just chicken it over each other's heads, like no, I I think you must have had to do it on one go. We probably should have looked it up before we start.
SPEAKER_00:Another game, and you've heard this story a billion times. I don't think I've told it on this podcast. I think you know what I'm gonna say. It's not a game, really, is it? Um where you know what you're gonna say about when me and Brendan were playing football in our garden as a kid, and we used to have the game. I don't know why I'd agreed to this, but basically Brendan had chew, and I'd have to save the shot, otherwise it would go through the window. So he'd just be blasting it in my house window.
SPEAKER_01:He loves weird stuff today.
SPEAKER_00:He loved it, yeah. So I used to be like fairly alright in goal. Um so I was pulling some good saves off, and he weren't a great footballer, to be fair. So I'm pulling some saves off, but it was quite knackered, and then there were one point where I go, uh I said, I'm not playing anymore, I'm absolutely knackered. And he just said, I am welling it straight through my window. Shh. Glasses. To this day, well, I say to this day, I have told her since, but for about 15 years, I had to tell my mum that we'd shut she weren't in, that we'd shut the window that hard, that the glass had fallen through it. And she somehow believed it, the idiot.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, well, uh he once threw a I mean don't get me wrong, it wasn't a new flashy car, but it was my first car. He once threw a golf ball up ridiculously high in the air, and it just came down and smashed on top of my car roof, and then he said, Well, I don't know, why didn't you catch it? I said, I didn't know you were gonna throw it. Yeah, but I just thought you'd catch it.
SPEAKER_00:Like He didn't match, yeah. There were once we went to play football, I don't know if you were there, and he had the ball, and he goes, Come on, let's go, and he booted it into like miles down the road, like we'd lost the ball, so we couldn't play we have to go home. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01:It once, yeah, we sat outside my house in my car, and my mum mum said, Look, my car was moving. He took the handbrake off, and then he didn't know how to put it back on. I had to go running out and like jump in it and stop it before it hit the curve down at the bottom of the road.
SPEAKER_00:There were another thing he did, which is mad there. I don't know, yeah. This is uh it we once came out of a pub and he was waiting for a taxi, taxi were ages, and they were a car bank app type pub. He was amazing just getting this and it weren't was open, he just signed in passenger seat. Like waiting for his taxi. Anyway. Definitely do an episode on him. Um but anyway, so that's all we've got, I think, in it, Liam, for playground games.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I think I think we've covered most of the bases there. I'm sure we've forgotten some stuff. Leave it there, but thank you very much, Liam, and join you next time for more Rememberem.
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