Who Remembers........The Sunday Night Blues?

We dive into the Sunday night blues of 90s Britain and ask whether TV created that mood or simply gave it a soundtrack. With only four channels and no escape to phones or streaming, the schedule shaped the evening: roast dinner, bath, damp pyjamas, a parent asking about homework, and theme tunes that made your stomach turn.

Join us for a tour of memory, mood and media—part nostalgia trip, part cultural autopsy of why Sunday felt so heavy and how to lighten it now. If this episode stirs a theme tune in your head, tap follow, share it with a mate who remembers, and leave a review with the show that most says “Sunday” to you.

Transcript

Setting Up The Sunday Blues

SPEAKER_03 0:00

Hello and welcome to the podcast Who Remembers, the UK nostalgia-based podcast. In this episode, we're asking who remembers the Sunday night of blues?

SPEAKER_01 0:54

Yeah, so this is a really, really interesting one, though. Speak for yourself. Well, I I mean this t this is a nostalgia podcast, isn't it? And that's what that's what we're gonna um sort of dwell on more than anything else. But it does go. It still it still lasts today, I think, the Sunday night blue. I'm gonna concentrate most on the Sunday night TV of the past, really, but I think it all fits into the same dre feeling of dread. This is deep, man, isn't it, for us? Very, very deep. Well I don't know if it is, but yeah, it it's quite a philosophical episode, I would say. Sunday evenings make me feel like either I don't know, like it it it it makes you feel like a work or school, but I think the biggest thing is just that the weekend's over. You get so excited about a weekend that you're like, oh weekends are Friday night, what and then it just seems like it's gone. And it feels like it's a different lifetime, I feel. Like the the weekend once once the weekend's gone, you feel like it's do you know what I mean? Like it it were a completely different time.

SPEAKER_03 1:52

Yeah, and obviously we're sort of f I'm I think it's still relevant today, but I think we're sort of focusing on sort of early nineties, or we are we saying yeah, I think early nineties.

SPEAKER_01 2:03

So I mean I will I will I've been looking through the old TV guides here, remembering some of the the shows because I think that I don't think it's the shows themselves that I've realised that as long as I think.

SPEAKER_03 2:20

Yeah, like we'll we'll go through the shows. I I'm not sure if the shows were depressing because they were on Sundays, or Sundays were partly depressing because of the shows, or a little bit of both. Yeah, maybe a little bit of both.

Why Sundays Carry Dread

SPEAKER_01 2:33

So I've been going through the old TV guides and remembering something. Saturday night, obviously, brilliant. Gladiators, blind date, Knoll's house party, big break. Sundays you've only got four channels when we're going back here. There's no internet, no mobile phones, no streaming, and obviously it's the day before you go back to school. So I've got a bit of a list here of notable TV shows. So I think it's when do you think it starts the Sunday blues?

SPEAKER_03 2:55

So I I think I mean this again, it's just to come back a step. I saw something recently where people were ranking days of the week. And a lot of people so obviously you your Saturday is your is your best day of the week. I think that goes without saying, unless you have some kind of like strange work where you you you don't work in the week. And I I had a period of time where I went back to Sainsbury's and got tricked uh by Chris Otter, the boss at the time, um who sort of sold me this idea of hey, you've got every Monday and Tuesday off, that's your weekend. I thought, yeah, yeah, see what I mean. But then actually, yeah, I was working every Saturday, Sunday when nobody else was. Um so perhaps in that era I had a slightly different relationship with Sunday nights, but yeah, I just just to just just to rank the days. Do you where do you put a Sunday? Because like to me, obviously Saturday's your best day of the week. Friday, I I think is the next day of the week for a for a standard working week. And then it's up for debate as to whether Thursday or Sunday is better, I think.

SPEAKER_01 4:04

Where where do you I this is a good question, there's I think Sunday mornings are fine. I think when you wake up, when you like first wake up, you think, oh what day? Oh yes, I'm off. That is a beautiful feeling, isn't it? You know what I mean? That that feeling that oh I've got the day to myself, football's only. Uh do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 4:21

Yeah, it was a relaxed morning, wasn't it? I think uh I did a paper round Sunday roast, yeah. I I didn't mind that because I used to get up, do my paper round, I did a paper and go back to bed on a Sunday.

SPEAKER_01 4:31

Yeah, my paper hound on a Saturday, actually.

SPEAKER_03 4:33

Uh I I did seven days a week, our our hard what's the word? Yeah, I'm gonna say hard school, that's not a word, is it?

SPEAKER_01 4:39

Hardcore, hardcore paper round local hard man, if you like. Local hard man, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:43

But I think the. Some days I used to go back to bed, have a really nice sleep. I mean, this is perhaps a little bit after the era we're talking about, but I I associate Sunday morning with sort of T4, Holly Oaks.

unknown 4:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:55

I quite like T-O-S.

SPEAKER_01 4:56

What was that really depressing show on T4, actually? Like, you remember that proper what were it called? Oh, please tell us if you if you you know what's what I mean. It was one of the most depressing were in between all the Holly Oak stuff. You know what we can do. No, no, no, no. Um, it were like I always remember like June Tarpong sort of presenting it, like say not presenting the show, but presenting T4, and that'd be oh, what were it called? It was I keep when I say trouble. It were I'll I'll I'm not even gonna bother because that'll take the episode up, but if I remember, I'll uh I'll tweet it out. But it was one of the most depressing shows in the world. But but yeah, to go back to where you where you started.

SPEAKER_03 5:30

So I think you're fine up until dinner time, like you say, traditionally speaking, Sunday roast or or even just a family dinner, that that's all good. I think it's kind of once you start to get to four or five o'clock. That's what I think. That's what I think. There's a kind of famous question that like, and I say it to my kids now when my mum and daddy say it to me, it's like, right, have you done your homework? Right, have you got your uniform ready for the morning? Oh god, I've got my stomach's going over here.

SPEAKER_01 5:59

My stomach is going over.

SPEAKER_03 6:01

Yeah, it's kind of from that time from sort of four or five o'clock, it's like, oh no, the reality you you've had your you've had your weekend, you've had your fun, but but this is it now, you're back to reality, you're back with a bang. The the TV shows didn't help, as we're gonna go into, but yeah, I think it was it was bath time, it was I I mean like even now as I'm talking about it, I'm sort of thinking, oh, it's just awful, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 6:27

Yeah, yeah. It's uh like I say, and and do you know what's interesting when I went through the show? So many of them are still on today. So I think the ultimate TV show on a Sunday. Well what show, in fact, I'll ask you, what show springs to mind uh if I say give me something on Sunday, like TV on a Sunday?

SPEAKER_03 6:45

So the the one the one I would say is Songs of Praise.

Ranking Days And Sunday Routines

SPEAKER_01 6:49

Yeah, yeah, that's what I've got. That's what I've got. So that started in uh October 1961. Um and until the relaxation of the broadcasting hours, between uh in in the autumn of 1972, it was regulated by the government that all television broadcasting on Sunday evenings from 6.15 to 7.25 should be closed and only be used for religious programmes. Um because so many people attending church church searches as uh ch services in the evening, they came back and then did that as well. You sounded a bit like then uh do you know Chris Morris thing where it says yeah? People like to go to check, church, chess, yeah, chess. But a compromise was reached between the churches and the postmaster general, which is a fantastic term, where religious programming would be acceptable to uh in any time slot, basically. But throughout the 80s and 90s, which we're gonna be what we're sort of focusing on. It was scheduled on Sundays moving around from 6.10 pm to 6.50pm. But these days, and I didn't realise this to be fair, he said at 1.15 now, um, which is not quite as depressing. But as soon as you heard that, it's a good theme tune, by the way, uh for Songs of Praise.

SPEAKER_03 7:48

It is, but it's just steeped in negativity, isn't it? Like and and again, I I mean I'll sort of skim through the shows.

SPEAKER_01 7:54

We might talk in a bit more detail about them, but I think well just before you just before we move on to Song of Praise, because you know, if from in 19 uh 98, the average viewership was six million. That'd be like make it one of the top shows of the day today. Six million for just people singing carols.

SPEAKER_03 8:09

Yeah, I I don't know. I mean my grandma used to watch it. Um I don't think I've ever watched a full episode. It makes me think of uh Harry Seacum. I don't know if he was always a presenter, but in my mind.

SPEAKER_01 8:20

Jimmy Savile uh presented a few episodes of that, I'm afraid, going back to old Jimbo. Yeah, we've as stated previously, we do not condone Jimmy Savile. We do not condone Jimmy Savile, never will, never have. Not yet, literally never have, anyway. Yeah, go on.

SPEAKER_03 8:37

Um yeah, so so obviously I I mean it's just a depressing show, isn't it? Like yeah, presumably not for the for the six million people who are loving it.

SPEAKER_01 8:47

Some of the some of the carols are fantastic.

SPEAKER_03 8:49

I mean, I like the carol, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:51

Particularly around Christmas time.

SPEAKER_03 8:52

I don't mind the carol.

SPEAKER_01 8:54

I watched an episode back just for this. Uh I didn't watch it all, I'll just skip him through it. And I thought, you know what? Some of these songs are pretty uplifting. I can see people on a Sunday like getting a bit raucous, like that is a no bit uh I don't know what that one is. But but uh what you're saying, and this is what I want to get into it's the shows themselves. I think if songs of praise were on a Saturday evening, you you won't think twice about it.

SPEAKER_03 9:17

You think why did they do this? Like this is really sort of scatter gun more than usual, this, but why why did you put the good stuff on Saturday night? Why didn't they save any good stuff Sunday nights? Why could they not do gladiators or yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. I mean, obviously, I I certainly don't condemn and I do condemn Noel Edmonds. Um yeah, yeah. But even his house party, that that would have been a bit uplifting on a Sunday night. Why why was he why would he only do Saturday night? He would probably depress, wouldn't he? That's probably why.

Songs Of Praise And Blue Notes

SPEAKER_01 9:48

Yeah, that's it. Yeah, well that's it. You can't get your big stars. It's a sudden Sunday night. Oh no way, mate. I've got Edmonds is thinking about his next show, isn't he? On a Monday morning, he's like going, Oh, what am I gonna do with Mr. Blobby on next Saturday's episode? Or who am I gonna gunge or whatever he's up to? Do you know what I mean? He's he's back in the office, isn't he, working hard? Yeah, yeah. I mean he's but this is the thing I want to say. There are some decent shows, but I I think there's two shows as we were talking. Uh some appraises the Sunday show. So the other one do you want to name the the second one? Well, I I think it's Antiques Road Show. Yeah, correct, yeah. Yeah. And I used this is a fucking brilliant theme tune this. It's not the same. Kind of should be. But that's awful. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I listened to that uh um on I think it was Thursday night when I was doing a bit of research for this, and I thought I thought, oh god, this is gonna be horrible. But if you if you listen to it isolated, it's a brilliant theme tune, but it just brings back those if you as a piece of music, it's it's fantastic for a theme tune.

SPEAKER_03 10:50

I mean, actually, do you think if if that show had been rebranded as a Friday night like prime time that could be such a kind of brilliant trigger of a memory, couldn't it? But instead it's it's just awful. It's yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:04

Do you know what? In about 30 years' time though, I imagine people will be doing podcasts like this saying, Hey, hey, you remember Antiques Road? That were brilliant that when people go on and say, 'Oh, how much is this worth?' Well it's quite a it's quite a retro thing.

SPEAKER_03 11:15

Not the not the one in the media at the moment, but the the royal family with um Fred Cash and uh go on, I want to say Denise. Uh Caroline. Yeah, they sort of brought it back. So so now I now don't mind the tune quite as much because they don't think you could say they brought the antique rose show back.

SPEAKER_01 11:36

No, but just give it sort of sound. But yeah. It started as a one-off documentary in 1977, by the way, in the documentary with that. Because it is a good premise. It is a good premise of a show. Well, they've do, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:46

I mean, it's it's created all sorts of spin-offs. I mean, that so there's a couple of weasels I might mention tonight, but there's one uh is it Bob Cashing Article, Bargain? It's not Barry. Who's the sort of pop-head weasel?

SPEAKER_01 12:02

Oh yeah, yeah, I know what you mean. I I don't know he I don't know who he is. What would Dimble be on? Without bargaining on? No, that weren't Bob. What were he? Dick uh Dickinson's real deal or whatever.

SPEAKER_03 12:10

Uh David Dickinson was bargain on, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:13

Or is it Bargain on? Were it bargaining on? Bargain Hunt's a game show. Were he on bargain on? Yeah, I think so, yeah. Yeah, fair enough. This is a little bit different, obviously, Antiques Roadshow, where obviously Antiques Roadshow, you've got is there anything in your house, by the way, that you think, I won't mind them checking that out of the Antiques Roadshow team. Um no, I don't think I own anything. I own the Antioch Road. My grandda gave me a shield once, uh, a small shield, uh, 1966 World Cup, and it were all the teams on it. And I thought, hmm, I wonder if that could be. Probably isn't, it's just made out of wood. But that's probably what I'd take to the Antiques Roadshow, and they'd say, Yeah, it's just a it's just a shield.

SPEAKER_03 12:50

I don't think I've got anything that I would be uh even just.

SPEAKER_01 12:57

Obviously, people love it when uh people go in and say, Oh, how much is this? And then it's never I I looked at the top ten like fails or whatever it were in the antiques roadshow. They're not fails, they're just people going, so we we're thinking that it might come in the 17th century, and they went, Oh, I'm afraid it's the it's actually the 21st century.

SPEAKER_03 13:13

Yeah, can I just shock you? Um this is actually a really good fake. Oh fuck's sake, yeah. Middlesbrough. Um but yeah, so the the premise was I'm sure everybody knows what Antiques Road Show is, but it's generally filmed in a stately home garden somewhere, um generally filmed in summer. So I I don't I don't sort of know whether they built them up in the summer and just showed them all year round. But you you go and meet an antiques uh specialist, I think people queue for ages to see.

SPEAKER_01 13:45

Yeah, yeah, it's really hard to get onto, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:47

And the ones that were good television, and and it's you know, uh obviously most of them were just yeah, this is not bad, it's yeah, it's not bad, it's worth about 50 quid. All right, sound. But the ones that were great TV were they're either this is worth 10 million, or well you've got this insured for 24,000 pounds, it's actually worth nothing. It's it's nothing at all. You've got yourself down, your granddad's let yourself down when he gave you this. Uh this is embarrassing.

SPEAKER_01 14:16

This is terrible. Uh yes, I I've never seen anything quite as worthless as this in my entire life, actually.

SPEAKER_03 14:22

We should get him doing it, do you know? Um Vic and Bob, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 14:26

Oh yeah, I don't know. I don't have the foggiest idea how much this is worth. Did you tell me anything about this now? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:33

Um but yeah, so so that was terrible. I mean, it wasn't actually like you say, I I actually the the premise was pretty good, it just the timing of it was awful. And it would have sort of me or my brother would have a bath, ticket turns, like I think I think the coal fire would be on, like it was sort of like come down, you're a bit damp, a bit cold, a bit sad, generally speaking, and this this show was on that's almost too bright and bubbly for what what you wanted at that time of the night.

SPEAKER_01 15:03

Like But like I say, it's the it's not the show. It's the but this is why I want to bring the next This is why I want to bring up the next one. Um because I you mentioned in in the past you don't like this show, and it's Last of the Summer Wine, which is I think I don't mind the show.

SPEAKER_03 15:19

I can't stand Howard. So we did um what was it? Like what was the title of the Living with Mail episode?

SPEAKER_01 15:26

Uh get it been uh get rid of it.

SPEAKER_03 15:29

Get rid of it. So we asked.

SPEAKER_01 15:30

You want to get rid of the Last of the Summer Wine, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:32

No, I want to get rid of Howard.

SPEAKER_01 15:34

Oh yeah, that's right. Sorry, Mike.

SPEAKER_03 15:35

Actually, I asked the AI in anticipation of this recording. Uh I said, What was I out of order to think uh Howard from Master Some Wine is a complete weasel? And it's put no you are completely uh what did he say? You're completely well reasoned in your assessment that he is a weasley character. Um he's constantly trying to meet up with Marina, yeah, yeah. Uh shuffling around. He said he's constantly whispering to Claggy or Compo as well, like little ratty, little whispering man, isn't he? So I I mean we we did it because I think he died.

SPEAKER_01 16:07

Yeah, he did, he did, yeah. You killed him.

SPEAKER_03 16:09

Around the time of the episode. So I have to sort of say it's not the actor I have a problem with. And I mean, in many ways, he gives such a good delivery because I just can't stand Howard. That's it, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:19

But this I think it's a good thing.

Antiques Roadshow And Memory Triggers

SPEAKER_03 16:25

So how many times was it then? It it couldn't reveal. It said um something like this is unclear. There's definitely an episode called something like dunno if I've still got the notes open. There's there's a famous episode called Something About a Bathtub, apparently. Um But but then it said there's all sorts of times where they end up in like push chairs, uh wagons, go-karts, and often roll down a hill. But it it didn't actually know. Didn't know. So even I even I can't crack that one.

SPEAKER_01 16:57

Yeah, because it's been it's been that many times. Uh but I think this out of all the theme tunes, because it's quite a depressing theme tune anyway, I think this is the one for me above the other two. Like when that comes on. The BBC initially disliked this theme tune because they didn't think it were proper for a comedy programme to have such mellow music, but um, I mean, let's kind of be clear, it it is I've gotta say it's a work of genius.

SPEAKER_03 17:27

I think that's probably going too far. It's it certainly had a place, didn't it? I mean, it's is it still going now? I I'm not sure. No, no. Um, I bet it was up until not long ago.

SPEAKER_01 17:39

2010. 2010 was the final series. Uh it still got four million viewers in 2010, but it peaked 18.8 million viewers.

SPEAKER_03 17:47

But I wonder how many of those were people like really depressed who didn't want to be watching it.

SPEAKER_01 17:52

Well, there's nothing else on, is there? You've got to listen to that. I feel sick when I think about it. In 2003, Radio Times did a survey. Last of the Summer Wine uh was the programme readers most wanted to see cancelled with 12,000 votes. Nearly it received one third of the total vote. Uh twice as many votes as the runner-up in the poll, which is another Sunday show, believe it or not. This is why it's a bit harsh on Last of the Sun of Wine because the runner-up was heartbeat. Yeah, but again, that it's it's very similar vibes, isn't it? People just they wanted to just cancel Sunday. TV stations, like I think they're in a know-win situation. I think we would not be looking at gladiators and Knolls House party as we do now if this was if it were played on a Sunday.

SPEAKER_03 18:39

Imagine a parallel universe where you switch Saturday night and Sunday night tele, and we're now sat here talking about our depressing gladiators. Do you feel the power of the gladiator? Like that's the first time.

SPEAKER_01 18:49

Oh my heard that theme tune. Oh my stomach sank.

SPEAKER_03 18:55

Yeah, yeah, just uh summer line, like saying, Oh, how good were it on a Saturday night, Saturday night?

SPEAKER_01 19:03

But that's it, I think because like I say, the anti Roadshow theme tune is good. Like that so that is a good thing. That's an upbeat. But you like, oh, it just makes you think of school and and work and and it's just really funny how genuinely you associate a certain feeling with a TV show, I think.

SPEAKER_03 19:20

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:20

Um I mean sorry, carry on.

SPEAKER_03 19:23

No, I was just gonna say what it's your list you sent me, actually, so yeah, it's not worth me pretending whether you've seen them or not, because you've sent it to me.

SPEAKER_04 19:30

But yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:33

I associate that a little bit earlier in the day, I think. Was that not more sort of after the meantime?

SPEAKER_01 19:37

I don't get really that much dread with country file. A country file, I maybe because it it's come at it it's still on and it's in an era where you can switch it off and there's a million other things you can do. I don't think I don't think today's shows hold that dread of something like Last of the Summer Wine because there were no you couldn't get away from it. There were either that or listening to Radio One, which would have probably been the Trevor Nelson's dance anthems or whatever. I don't know what it would have been Sunday nights if it was Radio One.

SPEAKER_03 20:04

I think it would be Dave Pierce's dance anthem.

SPEAKER_01 20:06

It might be Dave Pierce's dance dance anthem. You've got no way out, basically.

SPEAKER_03 20:09

Danny Franchetti's jazz hour.

SPEAKER_01 20:12

Yeah, you've got no way out. There's there's nothing you can do, and I don't think the country foul now that comes on and you think, oh I'm yeah, this just depresses me. I'm gonna pull out the stuff.

SPEAKER_03 20:21

Well, this is the thing right now that that kids just do not grasp because on a Sunday night it's still it's still depressing, it's still school the next day, nothing's changed in that respect. But they can go and watch Modern Family Simpsons, they can go and watch what whatever they want and still at least pretend it's not Sunday night. Whereas we had to you were made really painfully aware this is Sunday, this is a depressing time, you have to watch these things, and yeah, it's just I I mean, like you say, it still exists to a certain extent now, but it's just not it's not the same as that. I mean, going back earlier than us, if you can even imagine that.

SPEAKER_01 21:02

I know, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:03

What what would it have been then, like if there was only sort of one or two channels?

SPEAKER_01 21:06

What what well last of the summer was happening again, dude? Antiques road show. Antique road songs of praise, yeah. So antique, yeah. Yeah, 77 Antiques Road show. Songs of praise earlier as well.

SPEAKER_02 21:18

That's when it went wrong, isn't it? They didn't freshen it up.

SPEAKER_01 21:21

Well, let me give you some good shows earlier and that that that was uh that that were air on on a Sunday. Scrap Hoot Challenge was a Sunday on channel four.

SPEAKER_03 21:28

I love Scrap Hoot Challenge. We might do that.

SPEAKER_01 21:29

That's the sort of show, yeah. That's the sort of show.

SPEAKER_03 21:31

Sunday lunch time that though, I think.

SPEAKER_01 21:33

6 pm apparently.

SPEAKER_03 21:35

Oh really? Wow.

SPEAKER_01 21:36

That's what that's what I've that's what I've got on my mind. Well, it might have changed around.

SPEAKER_03 21:39

Unless there was a rerun earlier in the like the previous weeks.

unknown 21:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:48

Richard Not Judy was was incredible.

SPEAKER_01 21:50

Sunday morning's some great show. I mean, look, look, they do uh what what you call it? Sunday.

SPEAKER_03 21:54

I quite like the OC as well. That that's some good stuff.

SPEAKER_01 21:57

There were some good all the Oaks on Ubush were brilliant. For a for a when you run over and you're like just putting it on and it were just light hearted.

SPEAKER_02 22:04

East Enders omnibus.

SPEAKER_01 22:06

That was Sunday afternoon. Yeah, that's a Sunday afternoon. That is quite depressing though, isn't it, to be fair? But I don't think you associate that with at all, in fact.

SPEAKER_03 22:14

Who do you think of when I say because I there's a very sort of strong character comes to mind when I say East Enders Omnibus?

SPEAKER_01 22:22

East Ender's Omnibus.

SPEAKER_03 22:24

Who do you associate with watching on that?

SPEAKER_01 22:26

There's hundreds of characters, so it's probably not a lot of things. Just give me two seconds. I'm just gonna get into my mind palace. East Enders Omnibus. I'm thinking straight away. To be honest, I'm thinking Phil Mitchell.

SPEAKER_03 22:38

Nah, see, I'm I'm thinking Beal the Squeal arguing with uh Cindy.

SPEAKER_01 22:42

I can see that. Yeah, Dirty Dead. They're all they're all in it, they've all been in the in the omnibus. Mark Fowler with his leather jacket on. Remember when he uh he got AIDS, didn't he? And then he put a leather jacket on and and drove off way to the water. Yeah, we never saw him ever again. I thought I'm pretty sure they were more too much.

SPEAKER_03 22:57

I'm not sure that's the exact plot line, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:59

That's what I remember happening.

SPEAKER_03 23:00

Loosely based on that.

SPEAKER_01 23:01

But another really great show, not for me, but I know you love it. Top gear for a Sunday.

SPEAKER_03 23:05

Yeah, and this again though, so I think there's a little bit of a shift. And maybe it's just because we could stay up later, because as you know, as my um my own man in those days, I could stay up as late as I wanted.

SPEAKER_02 23:18

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:19

But yes, Top Gear, I think it was about eight o'clock on a Sunday, but that was Boum, boum, bound, bound, boom, boam, bound.

Last Of The Summer Wine Debate

SPEAKER_01 23:26

Oh no, that's uh pendulum. How's it go? Uh it's the Alman brothers, isn't it? Jessica. That were a brilliant theme tune, that anyway. 1977, that starters, yeah. Yeah, that's good actually. Fair play. I'm gonna say it's one of those that you can't. Can you do the Men Behaving Badly theme tune and the Have I Got News for You theme tune? Because I think they're exactly the same. Can you do Nando with I Got News For You?

SPEAKER_02 24:05

Same.

SPEAKER_01 24:08

It's exactly the same. I think that is like one of those you're like brain tickets, but you can't do um A1.

SPEAKER_02 24:16

Now what what is it then that I was gonna do? What'd you call them?

SPEAKER_01 24:22

Oh, come on, what'd you call them? Oh, bloody hell.

SPEAKER_02 24:25

Um people shouting at me.

SPEAKER_01 24:31

Oh, take on me. Aha, that's it. Um anyway, but yeah, I think that's a brain teaser. Someone say, do those two theme tunes back to back. I don't think anyone in the world could do it.

SPEAKER_03 24:44

The tune to I got news for you.

SPEAKER_01 24:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:47

Diddle.

SPEAKER_01 24:48

I'm gonna do I'm just gonna do take on me. Yeah, that's my Maven Badley, yeah. No, I think that's fine got news for you. Maven Badley. Is it? And what's Fagot News for you then?

SPEAKER_02 25:07

That's his mental.

SPEAKER_03 25:11

Anyway. This started fellas saying this, didn't it?

SPEAKER_01 25:13

Yeah, yeah, we're quite I I'm about to say it's a ra really relaxing podcast, this one, but now we've gone into yeah. Anyway, uh, can I give you another show, Liam, that's uh known as being good? Yeah, yeah. And I didn't realise it were on a Sunday night, but uh it does ring a bell now. I do know, and it's Bullseye. Ah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:34

We've got to be able to do that. No, I can't I don't associate it with Fridays or Saturdays, so yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 25:44

So the end of its original run, Bullseye, we're getting 12,000 applications a year, and there's a five there was a five-year waiting list just to sit in the audience. The money's on the way to the hospice. Uh signature tune actually was voted the best game show theme ever in a 2008 survey. Do you know why you might have not thought of it as uh a Sunday night show? Is because in 1993 it moved to Saturday night. Yeah. Still still Jim Bowen, wasn't it? Still Jim Bowen, but yeah, but that's why you might be thinking, oh, we're a Saturday night that. There's another one that when were um Family Fortunes, Fortuna Family were on um that were Friday nights, weren't it? Put that on a Sunday, that would have been alright for a Sunday night.

SPEAKER_03 26:26

Yeah, that that would have been good, yeah. I mean actually now I think it was Fridays, but maybe a rerun was another Saturday morning. When was Robot Wars?

SPEAKER_01 26:34

That was Friday nights, yeah. Every Friday night, uh Robot Wars. Maybe you had a rerun Sunday, but you'd already seen it, so you weren't watching it. This is a good show as well. Uh, another Sunday night show. You've been framed with Mr. Jeremy Beadle. Um so that's actually do you know what?

SPEAKER_03 26:49

That's a rare jewel in the crown, isn't it? That that was that was very good. I mean, obviously it's it's kind of kill now. Social media, yeah. You can see whatever you want to see these days, but in those days you had to wait for like uh an old woman falling down some stairs or uh a young child falling asleep in his pants. Do you remember his catchphrase? Beetle's catchphrase. Um it was something to do with try no, it can't be try it yourself. Imagine now try it yourself. Try it yourself. What in an Irish accent as well? Try it yourself. No, no, no, no, it was something like um well, obviously something like send it in and and there could be£250 waiting for you.

SPEAKER_01 27:36

What a catchphrase that is something like that, send it in and um it could be£250 waiting for you. Now the catchphrase was next week the star of our show could be you. Could be you, yeah. Yeah, little known fatly, um, Richard Maidler presented the untransmitted pilot episode of this. I can't imagine it working at all with Maidler. No, just because it obviously he he does the uh the voiceover, doesn't he, Beadle? Yeah, yeah. It's falling over. It's f it's falling over, dude. Look, look, it felt it fell over. This guy here, I mean, he's taken on a little bit too much. I can't imagine Maidler doing it at all. Um in 1992, one episode raked in 19.3 million viewers, making it the 13th most highest-rated programme in the entirety of the 1990s. Wow, and then uh Lisa Riley got involved. And then Risa Riley got involved in the nights. Well, it's uh it's not uh then it was Harry Hill after that. These shows that I've just mentioned Harry Hill actually.

SPEAKER_03 28:31

I'm I'm slacking off Lisa Riley. She was fine. I just think the format had become tired, but I thought Harry Hill did a good job with it because he cast a wry eye over it.

SPEAKER_01 28:40

He did kind he's he's good, innit? Hill, he knows what he's doing. But those three shows I've just mentioned Top Gear, Bullseye, you've been framed with Mr. Jeremy Beadle. Um, did they change your view at all? The you know that feeling of dread in the past? Do they I don't associate any of them with Sunday, maybe Top Gear, but not certainly not Bullseye or you've been framed. No, no, I d I don't. Um by the way, remember when Beadle died and uh the remember what the headline was in the sun?

SPEAKER_03 29:09

Um I can I'll never think of the the sort of geikes that followed when he died. Oh well about it with a little hand. No, I prefer the the less nasty stuff. Now they're something like um when he died, they said, Oh, he's he's been cremated to making a show by it called You've Been Flamed. Yeah, you've been flamed. And then they said, and apparently when one of his last wishes was that his ashes are gonna be scattered on his allotment, and they're gonna make a show like that and call it Watch Out Beatles a Sprout.

SPEAKER_01 29:41

I do, yeah, I remember this. I do remember these. Now the headline was uh big picture of him in a in a police outfit, and it just said beetle's not about. So bad, so bad. So they were obviously good shows. I don't I don't think there's any doubt of that. But you're right that we it's the very Peter K of this. But we we all had a bath, didn't we? Sunday night, ready for school next day, gotta get a bath. You all have a bath Sunday night.

SPEAKER_03 30:05

Do you remember mate?

SPEAKER_01 30:06

Who remembers? Drain your hair on fire, drain your hair on fire after, yeah. But straight after your bath on a Sunday night, you would you would you would greet it, you'd come downstairs in your PJs. Um I think I had Ghostbusters PJs back in the day. Not when I was like 15, obviously, but like you know, earlier than that. Um and then you come downstairs, and what theme tune do you associate with coming downstairs after your bathroom?

SPEAKER_03 30:31

Not something we've already mentioned.

SPEAKER_01 30:33

We've mentioned it in passing.

SPEAKER_02 30:40

I don't know. I have we've got something by the late great Nick Berry. Um did you know that even though you skip when my baby kisses meet me?

SPEAKER_01 30:54

Um I didn't realise he sang that until very, very recently. Uh Nick Berry.

SPEAKER_03 30:59

Who Nick Berry?

SPEAKER_01 31:00

Yeah, did you not know that? No. Yeah, Nick Berry sang right. So it's interesting that he left in series seven, but that they still played the Nick Berry theme tune. I'm not even sure that's true, is it?

SPEAKER_02 31:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:13

I thought it was a proper song. Yeah, it's a cover song, but they got Nick Berry to sing the the cover song.

SPEAKER_02 31:19

My baby chess is me.

SPEAKER_01 31:22

Yeah, exactly exactly like that, yeah. But yeah, so Nick Berry, yeah. Uh I I think everyone above the age of 30 has heard of Greengrass.

SPEAKER_03 31:31

Yeah, it was the lovable rogue, weren't it? Uh I found his dog really funny, actually. Was it Wilfred or Alfred?

SPEAKER_01 31:38

I don't know if I I must have watched a show of that. I mean, you've always got this. I think you mentioned it in the mail of the podcast before, that it it ran for eight years longer than the sixties. Um so they were actually in the 70s, but kept it. So it's it there's a it's an unspecified point in the 60s as well. So yeah. I think that's fine, don't it? Like Bart Simpson's been nine for you can't see the yeah, but it's like a comedy uh uh animation. This is hardware, this is serious stuff. This is Nick Berry and the boys.

SPEAKER_03 32:08

I suppose so, but I'm I'm willing to let it go that it's it's it's not live.

SPEAKER_01 32:13

I don't think it's live, no. But I didn't know this. The first season was broadcast post-Watershed, 9 pm, and it featured more adult material, including a brief shot of Nima Kusak topless, and also a scene of a man hanging from a tree.

SPEAKER_03 32:30

I thought that was Urban Legend. I remember a guy at school sort of coming in saying, Oh yeah, shit, Nick Nick Berry's wife was topless.

SPEAKER_01 32:38

Nah, it's not that sort of a show. Yeah, they they they moved it back after the first series. The first if he's been watching in series one, your mate at school, then he will have seen Nima Kuzak toplosh, yeah. And also a man hanging from a tree. So, you know, he's seen everything, he's seen it all, hasn't he? No, that I I was this depression, heartbeat.

SPEAKER_03 32:56

Um not in the same way. I mean, to be fair, has this ever been sort of referenced? But was it like an early life on Mars? Not not because it went back in time, but it it sort of played quite a lot of like meaning.

SPEAKER_01 33:10

And it all ends with it all been in Nick Berry's head.

SPEAKER_03 33:13

Yeah, it falls off a building or whatever it was, but yeah. But yeah, Greengrass is the doctor. But yeah, but no, do you know what I mean though? Like it kind of went for that retro feeling and even though it's not really my scene, I quite liked like they played some of the sort of 60s hits in it, and yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:31

It was all sort of like I don't know, I was like You can still find it now, RT V3, I'm pretty sure. Every time like if you ever flick I don't this this could be one we do. Does anyone flick through channels anymore? You don't really flick through channels anymore, do you know? But whenever I used to do it, when you get to RT V3, this were always on, it were either this or what's the other one called?

SPEAKER_03 33:49

The Royal I've I don't know if I should say this on on podcast, but I don't think she would ever listen to it. Go on. So my the only person I know who still flicks through TV channels is my neighbour. Yeah. And I mean I'm not naming her. So I I think I think this is okay. She found me upset a couple of weeks ago to say that Orn was stuck on her TV.

SPEAKER_01 34:16

Ah, was it now? Yeah, Harold Isha. Uh she's in her 70s. She knows what she's doing.

SPEAKER_03 34:25

So I had to go well, basically what she'd done is scroll through the channels and ended up going too far to like do you know your sort of babe stations and stuff like that, but then didn't know how to get it off that. Of course she didn't. Well, I don't think she Well I d I don't know. Each to their own.

SPEAKER_01 34:40

She's looking for Nima Kuz, that top low.

SPEAKER_03 34:42

Maybe that's what you're looking for, yeah. I I don't I don't know whether I might cut it out or not. I'm not sure. I don't know whether it's relevant.

SPEAKER_01 34:50

No, I think uh I don't yeah, I'm gonna.

SPEAKER_03 34:51

But she still scrolls through, and that's what can happen if you still scroll through channels.

SPEAKER_01 34:54

See these days you've got to be really careful. I sometimes when I'm at my hand scroll through because I don't know what numbers are because she's got uh whatever box compared to mine, different channel numbers. Iron up on all the next minute you're stuck on baby station. Say it's on baby station. No, it's not baby station. I'm like on the uh there's about 10 billion food channels, I'm going through all this.

SPEAKER_03 35:14

She did as well, it's funny. Like, I've kind of I've kind of said it now anyway, but yeah. I said I said something like she there was a message on screen saying something like calls or or say nine pounds a minute or whatever it was, and she said, I must have run up thousands. And I said, Why? What what do you mean? And she said, Well, it's been on this channel since Friday, I can't get it off. I said, Yeah, but you're not you're not paying for anything, you've got to phone that number. She was so relieved, like and and I said, like, what it'll be. I said, like, I'm I'm no expert on this. I said, but I'm guessing later on at night.

SPEAKER_01 35:48

I love that she phone you about Liam. Tell me how to get the porn off later on at night.

SPEAKER_03 35:54

I said, you'll probably find some some woman on there with a phone in her hand, and you can ring and talk to her. And she said, Well, yeah, the other night there was there was a woman on, and she did a gesture to simulate large breasts. Oh yeah, does it really simulate like that she had very large breasts?

The Brighter Exceptions: Bullseye And Top Gear

SPEAKER_01 36:18

Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:20

I mean, I come but so she's left it on all weekend. Yes, I think I think it she put it on on Thursday or Friday night, she kept turning the telly off, but then it kept coming back on. There's some sort of issue with the remote or something where it was just stuck on this channel. But yeah, this, you know.

SPEAKER_01 36:37

But you never get that these days because you only have four what we're talking about, because obviously you're starting to talk about four channels. You know what Heartbeat we're up against, and I didn't know this. There's another show that doesn't associate with Sunday night.

SPEAKER_03 36:46

So Heartbeat was ITV.

SPEAKER_01 36:48

Yeah, so BBC normally they'd have this and then a filter. So they might not be cut completely clash.

SPEAKER_03 36:52

So I'll tell you, I don't know if this is what you're gonna say, but something in my extensive research that I came across today, which is a great Sunday night show, was keeping up appearances.

SPEAKER_01 37:01

No, I wasn't gonna say that, but yeah, I think that I that was on, but I think they were repeats. I don't think the in the original showings were Sunday nights. Yeah, I think it were a bit like um because I think what did fools and also sometimes get shows. Yeah, when they've just like putting anything on just to fill it up. My family used to be shown on Sundays and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03 37:19

That was a Friday night show, though, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_01 37:22

Like like you said with the reruns, but but that was the reruns, because it's Sunday and they just don't want uh they don't want anyone to be happy, they're putting stuff on that you've already seen, but at least they try and keeping up your appearances. Now what I was gonna say keeping up your appearances is um Lovejoy. Ah, now we're talking with Mr. Paul McShane. Uh is it Paul McShane? Oh, is that the Sunderland player? Is it the same name? Uh Ian McShane. Ian McShane.

SPEAKER_03 37:45

I like a bit of Love Joy Shane.

SPEAKER_01 37:46

Yeah, always in his leather with uh what were his name, Tinker. Um I don't know if again there was Tinker, weren't there?

SPEAKER_03 37:54

And then there was the the bulbous-faced young man that he was with that.

SPEAKER_01 37:57

He were an Antiques dealer, weren't he? Lovejoy. Yeah, he was a bit of a rogue though, wasn't he? A lovable rogue. Yeah. Get him on bloody antiques roadshow. But what has that theme tuned going on? What Lovejoy?

SPEAKER_03 38:10

There's a good chance I'll go into take on my again if I try it.

SPEAKER_01 38:13

Um I'm doing some Blast of the Summer. That's it. That's it. Take army. Take on me. And that sort of overlap with what were on ITV. Because BBC, to be fair, they'd usually show a film sometime. Log Joe is a great show actually. I like Lodjoy. But sometimes they'd have like a crowd, you know, like I I I gave the Christie's whatever, or Mrs. Marple, or whatever that it'd be, or Puiro, he'd sometimes be flying around, wouldn't he, on ITV? But for 15 years at least.

SPEAKER_03 38:43

So that you mentioned three shows in about two minutes. You said keeping up your appearances, you said Mrs. Marple, it's famously Miss Marple. You said she gets married in a later episode.

SPEAKER_01 38:57

Puiro was it not Puiro? What is it? Puiro. Puiro. Puiro. Is it not Puiro? I thought of Puiro. Puiro. What does Puiro come from? But anyway, Puiro sometimes was on board. The big show at 9pm on IAV, and I don't think I've ever watched this, is was uh London's Burning. Yeah, I've I've never seen that. Uh I don't know anything about this. I'm kind of aware of it.

SPEAKER_03 39:20

Uh was London's Burning, was that Robson and Giro?

SPEAKER_01 39:24

No, that was Soldier Soldier. That was another one that used to be on Sundays, though. What was London's Burning then? London's Burning was just about London being on fire sometimes and people. Yeah, it were a bit like the bill, but for firemen, I think. The bill. They should have put that on Sunday nights.

SPEAKER_02 39:39

Did it bow bow?

SPEAKER_01 39:43

I always found London's Burning and I never watched it, so it's probably nothing. Like a just a less exciting version of the bill. We could both sit in London and they were just like shit going on.

SPEAKER_03 39:54

I don't know if I've ever watched a minute of London's Burning.

SPEAKER_01 39:56

And I bet that was on for quite a long time. One of the longest running shows ever on RTV. I can't remember exactly what it was, but it we're talking like a probably about 20 years.

SPEAKER_02 40:03

Can you name anyone in it?

SPEAKER_01 40:05

No, I don't know. I can't don't even know the theme tune, I'm not even gonna attempt the theme tune.

SPEAKER_03 40:10

No, no. Nothing. No, I can't. I couldn't um why would why would our guests I don't know it? Imagine me trying to just make up the theme tune. I've got it right.

SPEAKER_01 40:22

1986 it started, London's burning. Uh and it went all the way through to 2002.

SPEAKER_03 40:30

I mean it makes me think of the again if you if you want to check out one of our old episodes, our favourite TV themes, uh Fireman Sound is still right up there for me.

SPEAKER_01 40:41

Yeah, they should have had that as the theme tune to this. Um and then the other thing on our eva before we got to the proper late night stuff was uh Birds of a Feather. Which again I don't really associate with Sundays, but why'd I do that? Really underrated theme tune, because it's really sad and quite uh you know, with the obviously, did you know on the on the uh beginning, you know, the the beginning shots when it's them to as uh as kids in it, uh Tracy and Sharon. Uh Lisa Robson and Paul and Quirk were both mates from that age growing up, so they are real pictures of those two being friends. The only one that's not is there's a baby that represents Sharon, is actually Robson's real life um sister. But all the other things are actual, you know, um they are actually interesting. Pauly quirk. She's got she I didn't realise it until we're doing a bit of research. Well, they weren't doing research, she's put birds of feather theme tuning on uh into YouTube. She's got dementia now, um, so she's obviously retired from act acting. I didn't know that, to be honest.

SPEAKER_03 41:34

Yeah, there was some sort of fallout because she didn't appear in the sort of fairly recent I don't think it were a fallout.

SPEAKER_01 41:41

I think they sort of tried to keep it she only came out with it so many, do you know what I mean? She'd had she'd had it for a while.

SPEAKER_03 41:46

I heard two different versions. I heard that they were really disappointed she didn't continue.

SPEAKER_01 41:52

Oh maybe. She was a massive Pauline quirk at one point. Literally I can't say that, not in this day and age. Um do you know what her full name is in the uh in Birds of a Feather?

SPEAKER_03 42:05

Um she Tracy? Obviously, that's not a full name, she's Sharon. I know she married to uh uh Theodopoulopa. That's it, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:20

Sharon Pepitua, which is Paulinquet's uh uh actual middle name. Sharon Pepita I can't say it. Papatua Theodopalopoulos.

SPEAKER_03 42:31

Yeah, because that was was it Gary that she was married to?

SPEAKER_01 42:34

Yeah, yeah, yeah. When the two two jailbirds, weren't it? I remember like this being alright, birds of the feather.

SPEAKER_03 42:39

Yeah, it was alright.

You’ve Been Framed And Headlines

SPEAKER_01 42:40

I mean I think Dorian is a fantastic UK sitting up character. Yeah, Dorian's fantastic, yeah, brilliant. And then that's so that sort of like goes into the evening. Then I think if you had a this is like going to something you're like 14, 15, maybe. Did you have a TV in your room at that age? I think I had a little black and white TV in my in my bedroom. I bought a black and white TV at a fair. Blew up actually once, genuinely middle of the night. I like woke up and start smoking.

SPEAKER_03 43:05

You know, this had like a dial on it, you know, to tune through the room.

SPEAKER_00 43:09

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:14

Like a fair? Yeah, it sounds like throw a ring around it, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:19

Yeah, you'll get you'll get a black and white TV. Um I once had a TV. This you can you cannot we've mentioned before I'm I'm a brenner now. It was colour, but you had to put a key like the air, if you if you plug the aerial in, you won't show you it'd just be like static. But if you pulled the aerial out a little bit and then sort of slipped like a little key in it, it'd work. You do the math, you work that one out. Just a really no, it would just I it was just a house key or whatever that I just did like balance onto it. No, no, no, no, no. It would like it, I'd have to put like an extra I presume it were an extra bit of metal or whatever that I had to put. Up to the thing, and that's the only way it'd work. Imagine going from that to like Tesla and sort of how far we and and if it went, because it used to like turn off, my black and white TV used to turn off quite a lot. Used to bang it on top, you know, pfft, and then it'd come back on again. Yeah, yeah, it was a different world. Anyway, different world. This is Sunday night. So imagine how mad you were on a Sunday night. Things that were on your Sunday night proper TV, like if you're in your bedroom, you're not actually going to bed. South Bank Show, salon today. That's the was it Melvin Bragg? Yeah, Melvin Bragg. There was some good stuff on that actually. South Bank show.

SPEAKER_03 44:36

It was the Michelangelo painting, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't know that was Sunday night, but I know what you mean.

SPEAKER_01 44:42

Yeah. Tales of the Unexpected, which one of the best theme tunes I've watched. But it's like really creepy, you know, with a woman dancing and stuff.

SPEAKER_03 44:55

Yeah, it's it anyway. Um that's not the No, I was just going into take on me.

SPEAKER_01 45:01

Tales of the Unexpected. Um I didn't know that's Sunday night. What were where are the things coming from? Were we in bed by then, or was I you might have been in bed by this point, but I remember Sunday night sometimes seeing my dad have this on rather than me. Because I was shit genuinely shit scared of the theme tune. So I sometimes if I was staying up a bit later for whatever reason, my dad would have that on. He still watches it sometimes, actually. Well, I'm again sometimes we're in the caravan away. He'll put it on because it's on like I don't know, one of the live in it channels, whatever you call them. And um, yeah, sometimes they show him in the morning, Roll Daws, Tales of the Unexpected, some cracking episodes.

SPEAKER_03 45:36

Yeah, there were there were some really good ones actually, yeah. Um Spitting Image FM. Oh, Sunday night.

SPEAKER_01 45:43

Sunday night spitting image again. Some fantastic stuff with that as well. Uh and then two, I would have I I'll finish with these two.

SPEAKER_03 45:50

You just made me think something there. Let's see if this is one of the ones you're gonna mention. And if not, I'll No no go on. Hit hit me with your two just in case this is one of them. Tarrant on TV. No, that's not what I was thinking of, but yeah, I do remember watching that, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:06

That were good, that Tarrant on TV, where I get clips from like pick pleasures from abroad and stuff.

SPEAKER_03 46:10

And it's like sometimes I'd like uh in Japan. A bit of a bit of blue didn't it, didn't it?

SPEAKER_01 46:16

Sometimes like have yeah, because it were like weather reports and things. It were basically look at these idiot foreigners. That's what it was, Tarrant on TV. You get like clips from Japan or whatever. So in Japan, they do adverts a little bit differently, and then you know, it shows racy advertis, weren't you? Yeah, racy advert. And he'd come back and do that, and then but now obviously our TV is probably fucking 20 times worse than anything. And the other one that I really, really like, and we probably should do an episode on it, uh Hale and Pace for Sunday night.

SPEAKER_03 46:45

Yeah, I've I've sent you a clip recently that I've I was brilliant. Some of that really, really laughing at it. I thought it was brilliant, and yeah, yeah. I mean that I won't mention it because yeah, I think we should do an episode on it. But yeah, I've seen a couple of Hale and Pace things recently that were brilliant. The the one I was gonna mention, so I I have a vague memory of like kind of deliberately not being able to sleep on a Sunday night and like going downstairs to tell my mum and dad I couldn't sleep. Yeah. And Black Adder being on.

SPEAKER_01 47:15

Oh, that makes a yeah.

SPEAKER_03 47:17

I don't know if that was a Sunday.

SPEAKER_01 47:18

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 47:19

But I remember thinking like, oh, if I time it right, I could watch a little bit of it.

SPEAKER_01 47:22

It might be in repeat of Black Adder, yeah. I'm not sure, actually. Um yeah. Yeah, I'm not sure. Let us let us know on that one if it's right or wrong. Yeah, yeah, let us know in the comments. But so that's what smash the likes won't. Smash the likes. I think that's all that apparently it used to be shown on BBC One on Thursday evenings, Black Adder. Um, but it could be repeat, could easily be a repeat. Um but that's all the big TV shows I've got there. Uh That's life with Esther Hanson. That was Sunday night, but I don't remember that, so I've not written it down. That was Sunday night. I don't remember anything about that's life. It did get moved to a Saturday, actually, but I don't remember anything about Esther Hanson's That's Life.

SPEAKER_03 47:59

You used to read out like uh sort of complaints from people, but in funny way.

SPEAKER_01 48:03

Wouldn't it be like Jim will fix it? But obviously without the you know the without the paedophilia, uh yeah, without that. No, was it when it like oh you'll not believe what's happened? I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 48:13

No, I think I think it was like a sort of current it was kind of like Watchdog, but like a slapstick version of Watchdog.

SPEAKER_01 48:19

Oh, you've just given me a right, this is early evening. You know what used to be on all the time on a Sunday, and I genuinely loved it because it was before the internet, points of view. Oh, was it yeah, that was Sunday tea time, I think.

SPEAKER_03 48:30

That was amazing. That was the point of the day where like you could that was still good, but you kind of knew you were coming to the end with a fun stuff.

SPEAKER_01 48:36

Coming to the end.

SPEAKER_03 48:38

Yeah, yeah, points of view, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:40

Because it was like uh one, it was and Robinson, weren't it? I think. Oh, I think Wogan did it, in fact, didn't he, for a while? Well, uh this man here, he did not like the new Bobby. Tomison and Sudbury did not like the way the show went on Thursday. Yeah, they weren't happy with top of the pops on Thursday, and then it caught and it'd be like a fake voice, like someone going, I can't believe today that uh that they played the new David Bowie track, even though there was full front nudity on it. I couldn't believe it. But and then it was like I'm I can't say but uh Janine said that I don't know where Janine's come from.

SPEAKER_03 49:12

Janine, sure she liked the whole front and nudity.

SPEAKER_00 49:16

I thought it was really, really good. I thought it was fantastic that David Bowie was allowed to express himself. Do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 49:23

It's like mad things like that. It's still going points of view, bring it back because obviously now it's just dickheads on Twitter like me going, oh crap.

SPEAKER_03 49:31

Yeah, no, I don't I don't think it is. I think the two people have got too many opinions about everything, it'd just never end, would it? It'd just be just a constant stream of the floor.

SPEAKER_01 49:39

Just two people doing a podcast, yeah. Giving our giving our right taking our right eye on Sunday evenings back in the 90s. Do you think it holds today then? I mean, we sort of answered this earlier on, but I'm going to finish with by uh saying, Do you think that you still get those Sunday night blues? I think you definitely do. I work late, it's Monday, so I haven't got the the sort of feeling of oh I've got to get up at eight o'clock and nine. But as soon as that last Premier League game finishes on a Sunday, you're like what's going on.

SPEAKER_03 50:07

Yeah, I I I really don't like Sundays. I yeah, it it it really does sort of play on my mind the Sunday evening. I've struggled to switch off. I did 30 days, no alcohol, and the every day was like Sunday.

SPEAKER_02 50:24

Trudging slowly over.

SPEAKER_01 50:26

Well, yeah, but I I think has that got the that's that's a genuinely but obviously he's not really talking about that, but he has like sort of this could be the thing. We should have it playing throughout this thing. Yeah, he's got it spot on there, Morrissey, haven't I? Don't get everything spot on, but he's got that spot on.

SPEAKER_03 50:39

I heard uh a Morrissey song the other day in Sainsbury's, I think, and I thought, oh, we need to listen to a bit more Morrissey. Uh not for his politics, but for his vocal.

SPEAKER_01 50:48

Oh anyway, carry on, sorry.

SPEAKER_03 50:50

Um lost my train of thought there.

SPEAKER_01 50:52

You hate Sundays, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:54

Yeah, I I I hate winding. No, so what I was saying is so I I thought like did 30 days no alcohol, thought Friday and Saturday nights would be the struggle. Actually, that was fine. I found Sunday evening that the time I was really craving a drink just to kind of wind down a bit. Um obviously, when when we were in the 90s, we we could not use booze to settle down, so yeah, that's that's the way I deal with it. It's weird as well.

SPEAKER_01 51:21

It was more depressed, it were definitely more depressed than in the past simply because they would not be.

SPEAKER_03 51:26

But you can do what you want now. So so this is the difference now. So say for example, Gladiators. If you love gladiators, you don't have to watch on a Saturday night, you can watch it on a Sunday night, you can watch a film on a Sunday night, you can watch a stand-up comic on a Sunday night.

SPEAKER_01 51:41

Play you can play a computer game, and you can play like uh you could probably down if you're feeling really crap. Oh, I'm just gonna buy a new game online for the game.

SPEAKER_03 51:48

Well, actually, yeah, you're right. Thinking about it, that that was the other thing. So obviously now kids can play games on the phone, but even moving out of this era when we had TVs in our bedroom, you could play computer games. This for me, when I'm talking about early 90s, yeah, so we would have had an Atari plugged into the TV downstairs, yeah, yeah. So couldn't play games on a Sunday night because mum and dad wanted to uh funnily enough, why did they want to watch this this crap?

SPEAKER_01 52:13

Why why by the way, VHSs as well? I don't know if you we had a VHS, but it were always downstairs, I never had it in my bedroom, yeah. So I couldn't say Mumma want to watch Queen Live at Wembley again because she'd be watching Last of the Summer Wine or whatever.

SPEAKER_03 52:25

She'd be like, Yeah, why did why did they buy into it? Why didn't they say yeah, you can watch Mr.

SPEAKER_01 52:30

Because they had nothing else to do because they'd grown up with to be fair, I think it were more I think Sunday night going to the pub were quite a thing. I don't know if I don't remember my dad doing it that much, but I think that were more of a thing. My granddad used to put on his full suit on a Sunday night on the afternoon. Yeah, my granddad used to wear a suit to to to working man, I think he's gonna pick up Jackie Hughes, who would slag off all the way to picking him up and then when he got in say, Alright Jackie, how are you, son?

SPEAKER_03 52:57

Being been missed you all week, Jackie. And then when we dropped him off, he'd slag him off again when he wasn't there.

SPEAKER_01 53:07

I I I yeah, like I say, uh you can't even get a VHS in. You can't you can listen to music, don't get me wrong, but even at that, you your mum's probably saying, Turn it down, come on, you know, Sunday night tomorrow.

SPEAKER_03 53:20

Yeah. What was I thought this before, it's just come to me now. What was the Sunday show? The Sunday show. No, but there was a I associate it with Sunday tea time, but I might be massively wrong here. But the the production company was rapido. So at the end of it it'd say rap rap rap rapido. Oh come on. What was that? Yes. Was that Sunday night TV? It was a chart show, was it? It was a chart show earlier.

SPEAKER_01 53:49

Oh, you've done me, you've done mate, because it's a proper memory that, and I can't oh come on, Rapido. Yeah, Rapido TV friend. Oh it was it Euro Trash? No, no, it wasn't there was a s no there was there was a show called Rapido, sorry, by the guy who hosted Euro Trash. And was that shown on Sunday? Was that a music thing? Uh it's a bit of uh It was quite fun eye. Um It looks like a mad show and it was scheduled after question time on Thursday evenings.

SPEAKER_03 54:21

Rapido TV series. Yeah, like you're right, you're right, it's Thursday night. I don't know then.

SPEAKER_01 54:28

Uh maybe I'm Oh do you know what you did used to be on Sunday nights as well? Um you love him, Alan Yentob, what did he call it? Uh Arena. Oh yeah, Yentob, yeah. Because BBC Two, which we've not touched on, was very, very, very high brow. That's the sort of stuff. Yeah, that's the sort of stuff that I think I'd probably watch now out of the three channels. Not because I'm particularly art, but I bet there was some interesting stuff for you know, like let's look at this artist from uh France, and you'd be like, Well, no, I thought you're gonna come on, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_03 54:58

You're picking a Euro trash again, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:00

But yeah, but I you know what I mean. That that's that sort of stuff. Obviously, as a kid, you'd be like, I'm not watching this. They're like they're like Hamlet and shit on, don't they? Plays and stuff.

SPEAKER_03 55:08

Yeah, and it's something like ballet. I think I've seen ballet, believe it or not, listener. I think I've seen ballet on TV on a Sunday evening.

Films, Lovejoy, And ITV vs BBC

SPEAKER_01 55:16

A different time, a different place. Um it is better now. So if you're uh if you listen to this on a Sunday, then you might think.

SPEAKER_03 55:24

I mean, people do takeaways and stuff now, don't they, on a Sunday to like sort of finish the week. That that was never a thing, was it? Like funnily enough, I I asked AI um if there's anything interesting about Sunday evenings in the 90s. And one of the things it said is uh you never knew what food was it was in. If you were lucky, your mum might put you a scotch egg on a plate. Is that a thing?

SPEAKER_01 55:46

I don't remember that being called. I don't know. I've never heard that in my entire life. Sunday rolls and then a sandwich for tea, because obviously she might use it or whatever.

SPEAKER_03 55:57

Like sort of more a supper, but it'd just be like toast or bread and butter or something like that. Yeah, we really like lean into the depressing sort of feel of it, wouldn't you? Like, do you want some bread and water?

SPEAKER_01 56:08

Bread and dripping. Have we got any of that uh have we got any of that tango left, Mug? No. No water, water for you today. Or nothing. Yeah, water or nothing. On that note, Liam, let's get out of here.

SPEAKER_03 56:20

Yeah, we you know we've we've done what we can with that. I think uh started slow as Sunday nights do. I think we've we've we've we've had a little bit of fun, we've found some laughs. Um I hope you've enjoyed the ride.

SPEAKER_01 56:32

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you very much. Thank you very much as always for listening. And here to play us out is Morriso. Thank you for listening to Who Remembers. If you want to get in touch with this, you can find the WhoRemembersPolitics. If you are in Fashion, you can find it on Twitter at WhoRemembersPolitics. Or if you're local, you can find us on Blue Sky at WhoRemembersPolitics. Once again, thank you for listening, and we'll see you next time for more remembering.