Greatest TV Theme Tunes (From The Madeley Archives)

One note and you’re back on the sofa, half watching the telly and half waiting for life to start. That’s the power of a TV theme tune, and we put it to the test by digging into the archives of our old podcast "Living With Madeley", to bring you a nostalgia packed favourite that we recorded back in 2022.


If you’ve ever had an opening credits song hit you harder than the actual programme, this is for you. Subscribe for more nostalgia and archive picks, share it with a mate who’ll fight you on their top five, and leave a review to help more people find us. What theme tune would you put at number one?

Transcript

Mining The Maidley Archives

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Hello and welcome to a new feature on Who Remembers where we dig into our old podcast, Living with Maidley. We're going into the Maidley Archives and we're starting with an episode from March the 20th, 2022, which is all about TV theme tunes.

SPEAKER_10 0:56

Yeah, so this is uh we want to get some of our I mean we're still actually paying to host the Living with Maidly podcast. Still getting listens, actually, so thanks for anyone who's checking out. Um yeah, we want to get some of particularly nostalgia type episodes onto this feed. Um we're not gonna we're not gonna re-edit them. We're on the only thing we're gonna do is take out any of the sort of pre-show maidly chat we used to do and any of the ending, we used to now and again play some clips. So we're trimming it right back down to the the bulk of the episode. But I really enjoyed this one. What did you think in in high school?

SPEAKER_02 1:32

Yeah, I've listened back to it. Uh obviously we did this what four years ago. More than four years ago, actually. It's ridiculous, really. It was series three episode one. Um, and I think when we talk about you know stuff that we've enjoyed the most doing our podcast with Mail and stuff, this one always came up, didn't it? TV theme tunes. And I I I think everyone likes a good theme tune. It's a it's a common uh it's a common discussion in pubs, isn't it? What the best theme tune of all time was.

SPEAKER_10 1:57

Yeah, I think just just on the kind of format episode, you might find this with some of the early ones. I I don't know, we hopefully we're a bit more relaxed these days. I think that we we we tried to relax. Yeah, we we tried to be more professional probably back in these days, um probably much to our detriment. But um Yeah, no, I think I I I I I wouldn't necessarily change anything. I I I have skimmed through the episode. I I do think we picked some great TV themes. I mean, is there anything you think uh I'm putting you on the spot here, but is there anything you think you would swap out and and change or are you quite happy with your your picks?

SPEAKER_02 2:32

Uh well one of the things is you get onto it, I mean I don't want to give the game away, but we're not allowed to pick stuff that came out of singles or anything like that. They had to be purely, didn't they? Yeah, um TV themes. Uh any hindsight I don't I think it is a real song, but uh because with the snooker episode on so far not so long back, I think the the the snooker intro is is unbelievable. You know, the early 90s snooker intro.

SPEAKER_10 2:54

Yeah, that's a good shout, yeah. I mean there's like the F1 as well, used to be we didn't really kind of go down the sports themes, did we? No, no, no. Well no, but the last one I'm thinking of was actually uh obviously a a really famous song, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_02 3:09

Of course, yeah, it's the chain. And uh maybe Grand Stan, but I I think we we I don't know, we didn't have grandstand for whatever reason. But let's listen to yourself, listen yourself, let us know in the comments, because we're happy to, you know, even though it's an old episode, um and it never dates, does it, nostalgia? So we can silly what you want to say, what what your favourites are.

SPEAKER_10 3:32

Yeah, and tell us if you agree or disagree, and if there's anything I mean, obviously we missed, we we couldn't we couldn't do an unlimited amount of them, so we did miss some. But yeah, tell us if you think there's some glare in emissions. And yeah, hopefully you enjoy it. Yeah, I think I think skimming through it, I quite enjoyed it. So and uh you know, we made it, so if we enjoyed it, think what everyone else is gonna think of it.

SPEAKER_02 3:53

Right, enjoy, yeah, let's get on to it.

Setting The Theme Tune Rules

SPEAKER_02 4:00

Right, so here we are, the first episode of series three, and it's one that I I don't know, we've we've talked we talked about it in passing, and then we thought, oh, there's probably not a much too much to go into really. Best theme tunes, our favourite theme tunes. How did you find the process, Liam?

SPEAKER_10 4:16

Yeah, okay. I think we uh I tie my head in knots with with my own rules sometimes, so I just want to check on the same page. You mentioned in the the bonus one that one of the rules that I was gonna have anyway, which is uh it can't be an existing song that was then used as a theme. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:35

I've got a few examples of this, I'm just gonna make sure you've not got them, because two of mine uh well, one of them were definitely gonna be in it, and that's Twin Peaks, the Twin Peaks theme.

SPEAKER_10 4:44

Yeah, well and it's not similar, I suppose, but it's same same sort of uh feel for me in the tune. But I thought about having house, but then I very instantly thought, no, obviously it's it's a massive attack.

SPEAKER_02 4:55

Um yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 4:56

Uh what's it called? Is it is it teardrop or something?

SPEAKER_02 4:59

Is it is teardrops, isn't it? Yeah, on house, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 5:02

Yeah, so so that yeah, so that thought on the flip side, you could have so for we mentioned it previously, casualty theme tune that then got released as a dance version. So that's fine as long as uh it wasn't an existing song taken to be used in a TV show.

SPEAKER_02 5:19

Yeah, and this is one which I someone suggested this when I said we were doing it, and we can't have it. It's Ski Sunday, did you know that?

SPEAKER_10 5:26

No, yeah, that did come up on the list as well.

SPEAKER_02 5:28

D d d dun d d dun yeah, was that an existing piece, yeah. It was first recorded by Boosie and Hawks uh for the music library in 1970. It wasn't actually written for that, so we can't have it. Just going back to Twin Peaks, by the way, because people say, What are you on about Twin Peaks? The first version of Twin Peaks is Falling by Julie Crude, who's released as a single. I thought the Twin Peaks song was first and then they put lyrics to it. Turns out it's the other way around, so I can't have it.

SPEAKER_05 5:53

Yeah. No, that's not true.

SPEAKER_02 5:54

No, that's my number one. I love Twin Peaks. We're not actually doing it in this order, by the way, because we might overlap with stuff and then it'll just get a bit messy. So we're just gonna list our favourite five, aren't we?

SPEAKER_10 6:02

Well, one of mine, by the way, you'll find I've not broken any rules, but but there's well no, there's there's there's rule bending in involved, but yeah, you'll see what I mean when we get there. That's the first rule we've agreed on. It can't it can't be an existing song. The second one that I've done is it it has to be something you remember watching live. It can't be Yeah, yeah. I mean, again, we we try and tie this into everything anyway, but you know, if if it's an American thing that was only shown in the States in the USE, I nearly uh did a dead bat there, but Yeah If it was shown before we were born and never rebroadcast in England, to me that's yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:40

Well I've wrote just on that point, actually, I'm glad you brought that up. I've ruled myself out of um a particular theme tune, which is the Doctor Who theme tune. If you've got it, don't let me know yet. But my favourite version of that is from 1963, and if I ever listen to that song, I'll listen to that version, which I and I obviously don't remember an episode of the 1963 Doctor Who ever being on. So I've ruled myself out of it. I think it's a fantastic piece of music, but I think if I had one of the older Doctor Who theme tunes, it's almost like having a cover song for me. So I've ruled myself out of having Doctor Who's.

SPEAKER_10 7:14

I would have allowed that, and if I'm honest, it's not in my five, it's in my backups, and the only reason I didn't have it in five is because I thought I thought you would be having it.

SPEAKER_02 7:23

I think it's fantastic truly incredible piece of music where So that one might slip through the net then. Yeah, recorded recorded before the availability commercial circ uh synthesised.

SPEAKER_10 7:33

I still remember watching it on TV.

SPEAKER_02 7:34

It did, but with a different soundtrack, because the soundtrack keeps updating, and this is what I'm talking about. Ah, yeah, but you're allowed an update. I d I don't know because I think it's like having a cover song. I think it's like having a cover song. So the best. But it is because the for instance there's another one coming up where she's had two different versions, but I picked the original version. This if I had to have one, it'd be the 80s version of Doctor Who, which is nowhere near as good as the 60s version. I'd I'd just be fooling I'd be fooling you, I'd be fooling myself and fooling the audience.

SPEAKER_10 8:05

Yeah, fair enough. Fair play, yeah, can't fault you. Um and and yeah, what I was saying there about the backup song. So we've both got a top five, again, not in any particular order. What we're gonna do though is if the and you might not hear this, but if there is any crossover, so if we both got the same song, you're gonna hear this Richard Maidley sound.

SPEAKER_01 8:23

Good luck with the the African elephant uh project, that is an excellent thing to do.

SPEAKER_10 8:27

And that that effectively means we both pick the same song, so whoever got it first, that's theirs. The second guy has to go and dip and dip into their backup five.

SPEAKER_02 8:36

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 8:37

If if that doesn't happen, it's just um it's just a rule we've created that doesn't matter, does it? But you never know.

SPEAKER_02 8:43

No, no, no. Let's hope it doesn't. Let's hope it doesn't. I've got a feeling it will, I've got a feeling there's one in there that you'll definitely have because I'm pretty sure we've talked about it before, um, before we've done this. Do you want to start or do you want me to start? Yeah, I don't mind jumping in if you want. You you you get going then. I started the the games when we sonic, then I saw let's see what you've got for me.

SPEAKER_10 8:59

Right, okay.

Knight Rider And Borrowed Classics

SPEAKER_10 9:00

You're listening along. The first time you're gonna hear this will coincide with the first time that that Andrew is this because we haven't we haven't sent them each other, we're gonna do it live. So my first song is this.

SPEAKER_02 10:18

Right, so you just played me that. I'm disappointed I didn't have it in a way, 'cause it reminds me of Craft Work a lot. And uh Craft Work are one of my favourite bands. It's it's uh I love it. I love it. That I think the reason I probably didn't pick it is because I don't ever remember watching an episode of Night Rider.

SPEAKER_10 10:35

Oh, really? I used to love this. I I used to sit and I think it was like Saturday lunchtime, I'm not sure, but I used to love watching Night Rider. Um I like as well that it's it's kind of of that era where the theme tune kind of tells you a bit of the story, so you get kind of Michael Knight. He was uh I mean it's a bit like A-T-ish, innit? But I can't I can't remember it to be honest. I've I've not listened to it today. Um but yeah, it explains a little bit about him that he's fighting criminals who are above the law, I think it says.

SPEAKER_02 11:02

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's pretty cool, innit? It's a cool it's a cool looking show, like as an intro, innit?

SPEAKER_10 11:07

It's a cool show, it's it's the coolest Hasselhoff's ever been, as well, I think. I think it's cooler than Baywatch, um I would say. Oh yeah. Um it was composed some by the way, some of my sort of research here is is sketchy. I've I've if I couldn't find all the information I wanted very quickly, I I I didn't. So that's the sort of research you love on this show. Yeah, exactly. Um written and composed, I believe, by a guy called Stuart Phillips, who also did the theme tune to Battlestar Galactica.

SPEAKER_03 11:36

Oh right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 11:38

But but and this is where I mentioned earlier, uh can it be an existing song? So this theme tune is not an existing song. Now, what I didn't know is that if you if you dig a little bit into the research, and you certainly don't have to dig very far, the the quote that read says it heavily borrows from uh a guy called Leo Delibe, I think his name is, and it's from uh the ballet Sylvia. It's procession of of Bacca, Bacchus, Bacchus, or something like that. So I'll play a little bit of that, and when they say heavily borrowed, I think they basically mean stolen exactly. So this is what that sounds like.

SPEAKER_02 12:30

How'd they get away with that?

SPEAKER_10 12:32

I don't know, I don't know if he ever credited or what. And and by the way, if anyone wants to listen to it, is when I searched for it, it actually comes up as March and Procession of Bacchus, but the the the thing that I saw that said it and nicked it said it was procession of Bacchus. But yeah, it it basically took the main part of the classical piece of music, but but then what I'll give them credit for is then they've they've built upon it because the the little bass. I mean, I love version did a little little dun did a little little dun d you know, like the little bass line in the background. Yeah, also there's loads of like sort of clicks and things going off. It's it's brilliant, it's a brilliant piece of music, it's very dark. Um and and yeah, that you know, obviously that's the kind of we're we're not gonna dig too much into the TV shows, but uh just a quick mention, what did make me laugh?

SPEAKER_02 13:18

Yeah, I think we'll do a quick quick little overview of him, yeah. But yeah, because I don't know.

SPEAKER_10 13:22

I've not gone too far into him. But uh Michael Knight was a guy, he was got into some trouble with some criminal underworld, but he ended up getting into a bad accident, I think. I don't know if they shot him, but they saved him and changed his face so he looked like David Hasselhoff. Um and then they they kind of took him away and gave him his car, but they'd made his car amazing. But there's a there's a brilliant scene. Um I use the word brilliant loosely, but it made me laugh. And it's when he first meets his car, Kit. So he gets this car that's got this personality and he can talk, and and I don't know whether it stood the test of time, but I used to love it as a kid. But there's a bit where he meets his car and he goes into this deserted warehouse and there's a spotlight on him in a dark room. He stands in the middle of the spotlight for some reason, but then you start seeing the so so Kit, the car has this red light on its front bonnet that flashes side to side, it's really iconic. And you see this light come side to side, and then Hasselhoff, and it's done purely to get a shot through his legs off Kit, stands with the widest stands. Imagine if you were scared in aware, he stood with his legs like really wide apart, just sort of camera can shoot through his legs and seeing a red light on K.

SPEAKER_02 14:32

Are you a fan of Hasselhoff overall uh overall?

SPEAKER_10 14:34

Er Yeah, I don't mind the guy. I think he's a he's a comedy character and he's a full guy. Quite comical. But in this era, he was mega cool. There was no this is not like this is pre-dancing on Berlin Wall, isn't it? Oh yeah, yeah. This this is this is Pete Hasselhoff, I would say. He's he's he's you know, he's a he's a a good looking chap, he's got his permed hair, he's yeah, he's this this is this is Hasselhoff as I would imagine he wants to be remembered.

SPEAKER_02 14:59

I'd love someone in like what were this, 1982? Uh I'd love someone in like '92 somehow, like being in a call and listening to this podcast, and I said this were pre-before he danced on the Berlin War.

unknown 15:09

What?

SPEAKER_10 15:10

Yeah, well, I mean, I don't know when it was first shown, but I I was certainly watching it probably round about 87, 88. I'd say I was probably sort of five or six when I was watching this, and probably didn't get a lot of it, but just probably cooler than me then, because I don't remember watching it. Oh, certainly cooler than you, yeah, but I just remember Um Yeah, just just this this guy in his car saving saving the world, basically. But yeah, that that's my number one. I'm not I've not gone too much more into the show because we said we're you know, well, Night Rider could justify an episode on its own, so I'm not I'm not gonna go into the full story. I haven't done the research if I'm honest to do that. Anyway, so let's let's jump onto your number

Black Beauty As A Battle Hymn

SPEAKER_10 15:49

two.

SPEAKER_02 15:49

I'm gonna go in uh year order. Um and this one actually ran before I was born, but it was repeated regularly. Uh last being on Sunday mornings in 1986 to 1988, which is where I recall it. I remember nothing about the show, but I remember this theme tune vividly. Alan Partridge found this all amazing, like when he just said it's brilliant.

SPEAKER_10 16:41

Yeah, well funnily enough, it's not on my five, it's not even in my backups, but it but it very, very nearly was in both. Uh I think it's amazing. I think it should be a national anthem. And actually, yeah, the the thing that made me think of it is because I thought about having the partridge theme, which I thought is actually not that great, but I love it. It's not in me, knowing you, is it? Or what is it on I'm Alan Partridge, yes. Uh and I thought about having that just purely because of the the memories, because that was my favourite thing that's the funniest sitcom I've ever watched at the time, I think. But and I did remember him saying in that uh what does he say, Lou's is? Because Loon What's this? It's the theme tune to Black Beauty, it's brilliant.

SPEAKER_02 17:19

Yeah, yeah. It is absolutely really written by Dennis King, who also wrote the theme tune for the popular drama Lovejoy.

SPEAKER_10 17:33

Is that no? Is that Love Joy? No, Love Joy.

SPEAKER_02 17:36

This we'll play Love Joy. This is Lovejoy. It was King's first foray into a television composer, and it actually won him an Ivan Novello Award in 1973. It was released as a single and peaked at number 31 in the UK charts in 1974 as well. I think it's so uplifting and so this is why I think it should be national anthem. Like I think you'd you'd go I don't know you're going into battle with this, I think. Did you used to watch it? Do you remember it? Don't remember anything about the show. I just remember the theme tune, vividly the theme tune. And it's probably one of those shows that I don't know, like I say, I think it would last on in 1988, so I'd probably have been too young, but it's supposed to be I I don't know, I just remember that theme tune and the beginning with the horse, and nothing I couldn't tell you anything about the theme.

SPEAKER_10 19:00

Yeah, I'm I'm very similar. I was aware it was on, I love the theme. I kind of know it was about the horse, but I'd I've got no idea what happened in anything.

SPEAKER_02 19:08

I'm about to say it anyway. I imagine it's about a dog. About meant a horse, obviously. I imagine it's about a dog. No, it's about obviously about a horse and black everyone knows Blackbeard, don't they? But yeah, that's my first pick. I'm really not much to say about it other than please make this your national anthem.

SPEAKER_10 19:23

Yeah, okay.

Fireman Sam And Versions Abroad

SPEAKER_10 19:25

So first one I'm first kids one I'm gonna throw at you. I struggled a bit with this. I didn't wanna uh I didn't want them all to be kids TV themes. I could easily have just done a full list of kids TV themes, but I've settled upon I've settled upon a few, I think, but anyway, this this is the first one, and well, I'll I'll send it across to you now. This is the fireman Sam theme.

SPEAKER_02 20:53

Love it. This were on my uh it weren't on my reserve list, but it were on my like contenders. The the intro itself, I think, with like the the animation and stuff is amazing. There's a kid in it actually, you know, the ginger kid who delivers Norman. It looks like me circa I don't know, like 2010 when I was like losing my side by slab my hair.

SPEAKER_10 21:14

Glory days. The glory days. Yeah, so this there's a few different versions of this and they they've reanimated it. It made it all CGI and weird recently. I know I'm gonna ask you actually, do they have the same theme tune now?

SPEAKER_02 21:25

Because I have seen that it's still going or whatever.

SPEAKER_10 21:27

No, but apparently the Slovakian version of the new CGI one used the original theme. So well they know what they're doing, because they I ain't heard the original, the the new one, and to be honest, I don't want to even look it up. So they used the original one, the one that I love was a guy called uh Mal Maldwin Pope. I've written down. Um as I'm looking at it, I can't read my own write too well, but that's what I've written down, and he did series one to four. Um I sometimes find myself now, if I see sort of something going on and I think, oh, somebody's kinda I don't know, got the Stuck in something or something like that. I sometimes sing to myself, someone could be in a jam. So hurry, hurry, fireman. Sam, that that bit of music uh is kind of stuck in my mind.

SPEAKER_02 22:14

The best bit of this song is the little guitar, but I think there's only one bit of guitar in it when he goes, so there's a few, there's a few kind of key moments.

SPEAKER_10 22:22

There's a there's uh oh what is it towards the end uh with his engine bright and clean fireman Sam you cannot ignore. I think it there's something in the melody uh the in the pattern that that I love. Obviously the lyrics are a little bit ridiculous. Um it's about a a fireman in a little village, but I think you could and and this is kind of where I suppose I was thinking with some of these, and and some don't make sense because some are instrumentals, but I think you could re-word this and it could be a song that was in the charts. I think that's interesting.

SPEAKER_02 22:55

I'm trying to think like what maybe S Club 7, something like that, or like hot spice, maybe not Spice Girls. Fireman Jerry. It'd have to be like a kind of slightly folky sort of guy, I don't know, but I don't know if Jerry'd hit the vocals actually. Yeah, you're always on a battery vocals, let it go. I like Jerry, you know that. I'm just telling you, I'm just telling you. I'm not sure she'd hit the fireman sand vocals, and that's probably why she's yeah, she's uh not had a hit for it for a long time. But yeah, I love it, absolutely love it.

SPEAKER_10 23:27

Apparently I I dug into it and somebody had put a comment saying uh, does anyone remember the Polish version where they rearrange the lyrics so instead of matching what's going on on screen, they don't work anymore. Um I'll play a little bit of the Polish version. Neither of us speaks Polish, so I I cannot confirm. Well, you and and actually anybody listening who can speak Polish can't see what's going on, so pointless. But yeah, if you if you remember watching it as a Polish child, you know, did it did it make sense? Um it was it was covered by the Pound Shop Boys in 2017, which initially I read as Pet Shop Boys, and I thought, God, I bet that's amazing.

SPEAKER_02 24:24

Oh, you imagine that stuff. I mean he doesn't sing like as he sings, he sings nasally, does he? Somewhere good I don't know.

SPEAKER_10 24:35

Is he in a jam? In a jam. No, I don't know. I can't I can't do it.

SPEAKER_02 24:39

If anyone's got any good, if anyone can do a uh Neil Tennant impression, then uh let us know.

SPEAKER_10 24:43

Neil Tennant doing fireman Sam. Please. Maybe Neil Tennant does not. And then could we do a Polish version of it, maybe, but let's not ask too much. Um yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, yeah, that's it. Um I again, uh yeah, I I get it, it's a bit cheesy, it's a kids TV theme, but but that's music that I love, and to this day, when I when I thought, oh yeah, I'm gonna have that, and I put it on, I I kind of got stuck on it. I was listening to it over and over again for a bit.

SPEAKER_02 25:07

Well I've just listened to it, obviously you've just sent it, and I only listened to it once, and I'm a bit disappointed I didn't have it actually.

SPEAKER_10 25:13

Yeah, there you go. So that's that's my number two on the list. Uh what's what's your second

Cheers And The Perfect Sitcom Song

SPEAKER_10 25:20

choice?

SPEAKER_02 25:20

This is a song or a theme tune that I think pretty much everyone will know, probably no matter what the age, actually. Um here we go. Uh it's cheers.

SPEAKER_09 25:33

Making your way in the world today takes everything you've got. Taking a break from all your worries sure would help a lot. Wouldn't you like to get away?

SPEAKER_08 25:52

Well everybody knows your name. You wanna be wanna be where everybody knows your name. You wanna go to me.

SPEAKER_10 26:18

You wanna go where everybody knows your name Uh nearly had it, nearly had it. It's not a good thing.

SPEAKER_02 26:35

Oh, I thought you were gonna do it I thought we were gonna hear Maidley then. I thought we were gonna be a maidler.

SPEAKER_10 26:38

No, it's so close as well. I I it's it was in this is one of the first when we first discussed it, I thought our cheers will definitely be in it. What I thought is though I don't think I watched it as early as a lot of people are. I kind of came to Cheers quite a lot later, and the kind of iconic memories were were already formed, I think, by then. I I think if you remember this as sort of pre pre-10 years old, brilliant. I d I think I probably started watching Cheers when I was about 15 or 16.

SPEAKER_02 27:08

I think it was on Friday night, yeah. Fri Friday night channel 4, I get the feeling. It ran from 1982 to 1993. I imagine we'll be a bit behind uh because obviously it's an American sitcom, if anyone don't know. Um and yeah, I always remember Friday nights, not me particularly watching it, but just that theme tune as a kid making me go, what's this? Because it were a good song. Gary Portnight uh wrote it. Um, yeah, it's massive, like long story about this, which I'm not gonna go into because it's quite boring. But they went through so many versions of this. This is the original opening verse. Uh I'm not gonna get the guitar out, but um the original opening verse, what was gonna be in the theme is singing the blues when the red sox lose, it's a crisis in your life. On the run, because all your girlfriends wanna be your wife, and the laundry tickets in the wash. And they changed it. So it was about Sam then rather than the bar, was it? It were about Sam, yeah, because obviously he's a Red Sox. Yeah, and uh I love all your girlfriends wanna wanna be your wife. Um but yeah, the the longer version of the song actually made the charts in uh Britain and America and it received an Emmy or Emmy Award.

SPEAKER_10 28:13

And I didn't look into this then, but that that well, obviously this is why you've got it, but then this wasn't a pre-existing song.

SPEAKER_02 28:20

No, it wasn't a pre-existing song. He wrote it for this. Um in 2011 it won a Reader's Paul and Rolling Stones magazine as the best television theme uh of all time, and in TV Guide magazine in 2013. I think it's brilliant. What I love about this is that it's quite downbeat, and it's like I think Cheers is a bar where I won't say there are a bunch of losers, but they're uh I sort of described the difference between friends and cheers. Friends are a group of people who have not made the choices in their life yet, and you see them make the choices. Whereas Cheers is a group of people who have made the choices and now they're having to live with those choices. And as I get older, obviously, you sort of reflect, you know, you you associate more with the with the guys in cheers. And I think, like us all, they all sort of have this sort of, yeah, I'm alright, but you know, things could be better, things could be worse, you know, and all the and I love that sort of that everyone comes together in cheers and all discusses the problems and stuff, and yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_10 29:13

I think my early memories of cheers were uh it's a bit of a kind of really over-Americanized, it's not for me this. And it wasn't like saying Yeah, yeah, it's fantastic, but it wasn't until I was a bit older that I started watching kind of the the re-re reruns or whatever they were, but like and and actually started watching it and thinking oh this is brilliant. And actually I think I came I came to it with the because there's kind of a an ongoing story with Sam and the kind of lead barmaid, isn't there?

SPEAKER_02 29:42

Well there's two lead bars Kirsty Alley and oh what's her name? She were in uh Brady Bums, I can't remember her name on top of that.

SPEAKER_10 29:48

Yeah, well well I I came to it with Kirsty Alley, but she was the second one, wasn't she?

SPEAKER_02 29:52

Yeah, she was the second one, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 29:53

So then I kind of rewatched the early ones, Diane, yeah, that's it. And uh yeah, obviously start of Woody Halson's kind of I I think and actually I think I'd watched White Man Can't Jump before I saw this, so I already knew of him, but I I suppose if people watched it in the 80s, perhaps this was the first time.

SPEAKER_02 30:10

And obviously he should be gone. Fraser came into this um as well. And obviously got I think I might be wrong here, but I'm pretty sure Fraser were more successful than she is, certainly in terms of rewards and oh yeah, yeah, defin definitely, yeah. I mean Fraser's massive. That's a good theme tune as well, which I didn't have, obviously. But obviously Kelsey Graham was singing it himself. Birds Allen and Scramble. Oh, they think it's good. Yeah, I love Fraser, I think Fraser's fantastic. Fraser's another one of them that when I were young, I were probably too young to get it, and now I watched like the repeats on Saturday morning. I think you get Cheers and sorry, weekday mornings. I think you get Cheers and Fraser back to back about eight o'clock, half half eight now.

SPEAKER_10 30:46

Yeah, birds for different reasons.

SPEAKER_02 30:49

Yeah, it used to be um what's his name? Uh you know, What My Dad Loves, come on. Everyone loves Raymond. Everyone loves Raymond, yeah. But that's off now, and it's Cheers and Fraser. So, you know, if you've got a day off or whatever, and I'm up up early doors, stick a bit of Cheers and uh Fraser back to back. But Fraser's fantastic, Cheers is fantastic, and I think the song It's a great thing. I could easily have had it. It reminds me a little bit, and no people might not I don't know, people might not go with this, but do you know that's just the way it is, didn't it? Yeah, yeah. Think things I can imagine that being the theme tuned to cheers, if you get what I mean.

SPEAKER_10 31:27

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's good. I mean it and and I think it's it's one that there's never any doubt, is there's certain themes that you hear and you think, oh, what was that from? As soon as I hear any of that music, I can picture the the sign, the cheers sign outside the bar. It's it's it's it's so kind of tied into the sitcom. It's brilliant, brilliant piece of music. Yeah. Watch your next one then.

Pugwall And The Prince Similarity

SPEAKER_10 31:50

Right. Is this what what is this now? My number three, is it? Yes. So again, my my research is a little bit boring to this. I I'm assuming you saw it, I don't know if you will or not. Um it reminds me of being a kid watching it, not really probably getting it, but it's Orange Organics and it's uh Pugwall.

SPEAKER_02 33:07

Yeah, this were on my reserves. This were on my reserves. I think this is fantastic. I erm You know what it reminds me of? What were his name? He's dead now. Uh Little Cray. He sung that uh better fallen in Oh, what does it go like now? Shouldn't have been fallen in love with. Sounded a lot like the Buzzcock song, but it weren't that. Right. You're on like I don't fucking know. Anyway, that's what it reminds me of, but it's a brilliant song.

SPEAKER_10 33:30

So I I haven't got much to say about this one, to be fair. I think we can skim through this quite quick. Um I couldn't find any writing credits. It actually credits it to the Orange Organic. So, yeah, so I think it is this guy. And I I don't know if you watch the video, there's this young guy who I used to think quite cool, but his mouth's far too big for his head.

SPEAKER_02 33:49

I just about honestly, we're about to say he's got such a huge face, hasn't he? Yeah, well I think his face is a little bit oversized, but his mouth is ginormous. He's got like a man's face put with like a like if you put someone through a face at a man and make him look young.

unknown 34:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:05

But it looks a bit like Rude Van Nistel, right?

SPEAKER_10 34:08

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can see that. Uh the interesting thing about this one though is is like I say, I can't I couldn't find too much. It was an iconic tune, I wanted to play it, but I did come across a comment from somebody called JT Interactive.

SPEAKER_05 34:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 34:22

And they said, has anybody ever noticed how much Prince song Fury sounds like this? Did he steal the melody? So I'm gonna send you that now.

SPEAKER_02 34:50

It's exactly the same sin lines, isn't it?

SPEAKER_10 34:53

Yeah, yeah. I I I thought when I saw it, this is crazy. Yeah, I thought JD Interactive's talking nonsense, but I have to say, you know, I'm I'm certainly not making the accusation, but I I don't disagree with GD Interactive. There are you know, there is there is a definite topic art issue there, maybe. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:15

Yeah, I I like this one, I think it's brilliant. I remember the I think I used to fancy the girl in it. There's a girl girl that probably is it.

SPEAKER_10 35:21

Yeah, I I yeah that that's right.

SPEAKER_02 35:23

I I remember that as well when she came on thinking very nasty thoughts. Uh it's alright to say now because you were like, well, uh what 12 or whatever at the time, but now she's probably older than us, won't she? So you know, it's even caught. Yeah. Alright, yeah. I ain't looked at it since, but coming up next, Jim will fix it now. Right, my next one, uh, my third choice is something we've already mentioned, but I have to

The A Team And Peak 80s Intros

SPEAKER_02 35:56

have it. Uh 18.

SPEAKER_00 35:59

In 1972, a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the 1800.

SPEAKER_10 37:40

Yeah, so there you go. First Mail Alarm.

SPEAKER_02 37:43

I'm not that surprised. It's a fantastic theme tune.

SPEAKER_10 37:46

Yeah, I I nearly didn't have it because I I was kind of like.

SPEAKER_02 37:49

It's a bit obvious, isn't it?

SPEAKER_10 37:51

And I kind of thought you'd have it, and then I thought but but I thought, no, if if I'm going iconic TV themes, I've I've got to have 18 because I suppose similar sort of eights to my night rider memories. I just remember being a little kid watching these shows that were probably a bit too grown up and I used to watch this. Just just loving it and just thinking, oh wow, like I couldn't I couldn't wait for all these explosions and there's loads of cars flipping over on the theme that I seem to remember as well.

SPEAKER_02 38:14

Like yeah, yeah, brilliant. The the start of it is fantastic, it just looks so it's the most exciting start, like, to a to a TV show. You know you're gonna have a good half an hour, don't you, after this? Yeah, just by looking at the theme tune. My favourite bit of the theme tune, by the way, and I think this is what gets it into my top five. Do you know the strings in the middle when he goes Yeah, yeah. I think it shows your face then as well. Yeah, yeah, it does, yeah. I think you're right.

SPEAKER_10 38:39

Um but I don't like I said, that black beautiful brilliant. Uh yeah, it it's it's so iconic, it definitely takes me back to my childhood. Um yeah, it's just uh it's another one a bit like Night Rider as well, where it's a bit of a story, isn't it? It says something like uh sentence for a crime they didn't commit.

SPEAKER_02 38:56

Yeah, um you reckon they committed it? Uh I certainly think Hannibal would have gladly committed it. There's absolutely no way they didn't commit that crime. They committed it, didn't they? I mean, I don't even know what the crime was, did you? I don't I I don't I can't remember, I've not seen it since the 80s. You're actually only on from 1983 to 1987 this, but um it was repeated on our EV, which is where we all have watched it, so nine uh 1994. So I think we were just getting into like trying to be cool watching the A team, you know what I mean? I I like I said about Black Beauty earlier, by the way, that that should be our national anthem. I think this should be America's national anthem, and I'd have much more respect for the country if they did.

SPEAKER_10 39:32

Yeah, yeah, I can't disagree with that.

SPEAKER_02 39:33

I think uh nothing against America, by the way. I just I'd have much more respect if they did. Uh Mike Post and Pete Carpenter wrote it.

SPEAKER_10 39:40

We're not going to go too much into we we actually mentioned we might do an episode on A Team, so I certainly don't want to go into too much. But do you remember?

SPEAKER_02 39:46

No, can I just before you go just before you go into the actual show? Do you know what else Mike Post and Pete Carpenter wrote?

SPEAKER_10 39:53

Uh presumably.

SPEAKER_02 39:54

There's another one I were going to have here. I haven't had it because I've picked this and I didn't want too well the same artist. What's the helicopter thing?

SPEAKER_10 40:04

Er er I don't know. Um presumably it's not that I actually know what it is.

SPEAKER_02 40:10

No. It's not the helicopter thing. Did Magnum PI, Law and Order, and another one that's fa absolutely fantastic, and it's uh Quantum Leap. Ah, and who is it? Er, Mike Post and Pete Carpenter. So these guys, fucking they know what they're doing, don't they, with theme tunes? Oh yeah, yeah. That's uh Quantum Leap.

unknown 40:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:40

I should have had it. I didn't want it. That that were gonna be definitely one of my five Quantum Leap. I didn't want two by the same artist. Uh yeah, sorry, about the show you were gonna say, sorry.

SPEAKER_10 40:49

Yeah, I mean do you remember we talked about this? It was a while ago actually. I th I don't know if this were years ago when we were sort of dabbling with another podcast that we kind of never stuck with. But I remember I I remember watching some A-Team episodes for something, and one of them was it was absolutely ridiculous, and I can't quite remember what it was, but it was something like they wanted to steal a car. That's the usual A-team storyline, yeah. But so they went into a bar and they they kind of orchestrated a fake fight between themselves where I think BA knocked Hannibal through the main window of the bar so that in the kind of commotion they could get in the car and drive off.

SPEAKER_02 41:28

But but why don't they just get in the car? I'll tell you every episode of the A Team, they create like a tank or something out of I don't know, straw. And then they they blast out of a place and then it sets on fire and they run off.

SPEAKER_10 41:43

And then a car flips over and it's really And then a car flips over for no reason, and then one other thing as well, and again, I'm I'm stealing material from if we ever do it, but I watched one and I do remember this as well, because I I I seem to remember even as a child thinking that this makes no sense. There's one where they've I think they've got a break into somewhere. So Mad Mad Murdock um he gets himself put in a mental home and then he keeps asking Oh I've seen this one, yeah. I've seen this one. He keeps asking for trash bikes. Yeah, and obviously you can kill yourself with a plastic bike, but they keep giving him these trash bikes. This is 80 mate, better time, better. And then I think he's got a hairdryer from somewhere and he builds a hot like a hot air balloon and floats his chair around.

SPEAKER_02 42:20

Yeah, yeah, I remember that.

SPEAKER_10 42:21

I do remember that. Absolutely ridiculous. Who were your favourite character by the way? I probably quite liked Hannibal with his his cool, cool guy with his uh cigar and leather gloves.

SPEAKER_02 42:31

At the time it were definitely the jewelyman. Uh yeah, Brackers. Yeah, it was his face Hannibal. Murdoch and the Jewelryman. I used to like the jewelryman, but I think now I like face. Smart on me face. He was a bit of a Weasley though, weren't I? Like a bit of a Weasley, but I think I think yeah, at the time it were definitely a pit of the fool. I don't think he said it in that, did they, in fact?

SPEAKER_10 42:53

Uh is that a Rocky quote? I can't remember. I ain't getting on no plane. Yeah, he said that a lot, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:59

Fuck you, Hannibal. Don't you fucking inject me, Hannibal. Don't inject me, Hannibal, like you do every fucking episode. Yeah, everybody inject them everywhere. Why were they always on planes? Why did they have passports and shit? Like, what are you mad?

SPEAKER_10 43:13

I'm sick of being injected in the neck and getting on planes.

SPEAKER_02 43:18

Hanging on a plane. Um apparently this is bigger in uh Europe than it is in America. We still get repeats in it of it in on you know certain networks, whereas apparently it's really hard to get all of it in America.

SPEAKER_10 43:30

Right. Okay, interesting. Yeah, good, good, really good call. That's the first so that initiates me going dipping into one of my backups.

SPEAKER_05 43:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 43:39

But the next one isn't, and that that and uh I played I played you as a bit of a fool there because what what I said to you is who came up with that

Magnum PI And Theme Tune Changes

SPEAKER_10 43:46

one. I knew full well who came up with that one because my next one is Magnum PI.

SPEAKER_02 43:52

Oh shit, right. Let me have a listen to this, because I didn't have this. It's just a phenomenal era in it for uh for theme tunes.

SPEAKER_10 44:27

Ultimate 80s. So obviously you said uh the last one, the 18, Mike Post, Pete Carpenter. What I found interesting about this as well, that on the credits, it obviously says uh I think it's written and composed by Mike Par Mike Post and Pete Carpenter. You might think he did it, but no, it was Mike Post and Pete Carpenter. But but what I also found funny is that it then said underneath guitar by Larry Carlton. So I love that.

SPEAKER_02 44:55

But that is a good part of the song though. You can't you don't know.

SPEAKER_10 44:57

But he absolutely, Larry Carlton, did not want that to go without credit for him, didn't it? It's like, yeah, okay, you guys did it, but but make sure you say that Larry Carlton.

SPEAKER_02 45:06

Yeah, yeah, no problem, Larry. Not on honestly, it's the best thing I've ever done. But I mean, do you I don't remember it too well, but I do this is why I didn't have it, because I've heard the theme tube, I don't remember watching it at all. You may maybe we've concluded that you were cooler than me after all.

SPEAKER_10 45:21

Yeah, well, I don't think we've proven it, but I think you know it's it's out there, innit? We'll we'll see. But what I'm I'm gonna throw you here a little bit because presumably you you remember it in the era and you remember that song being played, which I do.

unknown 45:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 45:36

Did you know that tune didn't actually kick in until episode twelve? So initially this was the soundtrack.

SPEAKER_02 46:00

I like it still. It reminds me a bit, I can like it's like a lost James Bond theme, isn't it?

SPEAKER_10 46:05

Yeah, it's it's fine. It's just I just thought it's funny that I I kind of have this really iconic music in my head for Magnum and it and it wasn't actually the initial theme. Apparently they'd started playing some some of this sort of music throughout the series, and I think they started using it. I think I think I'm right in saying they started using it on the end from episode nine.

SPEAKER_02 46:24

And everyone said, This is amazing, but then yeah, that was it.

SPEAKER_10 46:28

I had to switch because it it's just such a perfect fit for you know helicopters and fast cars, and he's got his Hawaiian shirts on, and it's brilliant.

SPEAKER_02 46:38

I I love it. Brilliant, fantastic, fantastic shout. That one. I'm really enjoying the themes tonight. Um so I've got number

Bread And Cast Sung Anthems

SPEAKER_02 46:47

four to go now. You've dipped into your reserves. I don't think you'll have this one. This was a British sitcom about the Boswell family in Liverpool that were on BBC One from 1986 to 1991 and peaked at 21 million viewers. This is bread.

SPEAKER_08 47:00

Gotta get up, gotta get out. Gotta find it, get us a shell.

unknown 47:10

Make the bread out of nothing but else.

SPEAKER_04 47:24

Make it out take it home. Nothing's gonna break it home. We'll be right out of home.

SPEAKER_10 47:36

Yeah, brilliant. I and you know what, if I'm honest, I knew you're gonna have this, because you often tell me that you how much you love this.

SPEAKER_02 47:42

So I think this is the greatest theme tune of all time, probably outside of Twin Peaks, which we obviously we can't have, and Doctorate, which we can't have. Well, I can't have. I think this is fantastic. The the fact that the cast sing it, obviously they're not singers, but they do it really well, I think.

SPEAKER_10 47:56

Everyone's gonna be like, it comes together well. I mean, something obviously you've just sent it mate. What I never knew, uh, if I'm honest, as a kid, I think don't they sing but bread? Which I I never knew they sang bread in it, but but bread.

SPEAKER_02 48:09

No, but I love the the best bit of the song is when he goes, Ooh, ooh, keep it in the first line.

SPEAKER_10 48:15

Yeah, I was just gonna say that to you. Uh wasn't aware of that before, just listened to it through. That kind of almost like Beach Boys high-pitched harmony in the background. It's brilliant, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:25

Do you remember anything about the show? I remember Only thing I I mean I do remember watching it, but I remember R Joey being said a lot.

SPEAKER_10 48:33

I remember grandad sort of mooching about it. Yeah, he was on, yeah. And I remember the the big guy in the leather jacket used to I think he were our Joey, yeah. He used to be down in the doll office every week trying to get signed on or something.

SPEAKER_02 48:46

I remember watching this back and about it must have been about 1998, repeat were on. I watched it bread and over so you know. We're pissing ourselves at the side, it was supposed to be like a cool character, his mobile phone, but like size of my fucking leg. It was so big, it was like it was like yeah, dumb jolly. Cool gate, yeah. Absolutely, yeah, like a dumb jolly phone, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 49:08

But yeah, I I I I'd never really watched Bread, I was aware of it. I did like the theme tune. I did see some of it and find it quite funny if I'm on his own.

SPEAKER_02 49:16

It's not a classic. I well, it is a classic, but it's not a classic for us, I wouldn't have said it's probably too early for us to really get it, but it is good. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 49:25

I remember Grandad being like really horrible to look at. Like, I don't know if they'd sort of made him old or if it's just an old man that I found in prison, but like I I mean, I don't know whether he could make it now, because didn't it sort of really go the sort of stereotypical scouses trying to Yeah, yeah, yeah. He got great.

SPEAKER_02 49:46

Paul Carter in it, actually.

SPEAKER_11 49:47

Paul McCartner in an episode. Um was he granddad? I can imagine him a um I think I was the first person to be in Bread, you know, me and John. I think we were the first people on screen actually.

SPEAKER_02 49:56

But yeah, I th he were uh he were in one episode with uh Linda, the lovely Linda. Um but yeah, there were a lot of criticism about how it made him out to be scallies and that, the the scousers. Uh the thing's kinda well-natured, wasn't it? I mean obviously I I can't. Well they're all scouses in it.

SPEAKER_10 50:11

Yeah, and I presume, and I might be wrong there, was it written by people who grew up in that area?

SPEAKER_02 50:17

Well, it was Carl Elaine, a famous writer. Right. I thought it might be Redmond. Yeah, it could have been easily Phil Redmond. He loves scouses, doesn't he? Uh the theme tune were written by Dave Mackay, not the former Spurs player, I don't think. It was uh from Australia, obviously some by the cast members. Um it were released, but it didn't get in the UK singles chart. Um that's a shame. The theme was re-recorded for the fifth series because there were that many cast changes they had to put other people in to sing it. Uh it's the first one that I've picked. But I just love it. I love the barbershop.

SPEAKER_10 50:47

It makes me think of um I think I know if I've heard it on Ricky Gervais on the XFM shows or something, but I think they mentioned it, and I'm sure I'm sure Gervais says something like everybody got a line on it. He said, and somebody pops up and says, And don't be dealing me in the losing card.

SPEAKER_02 51:05

My favourite bit is the guy off uh Lockstock who we're talking about in uh Goodnight Sweet, or I can't remember the actor's name now. Oh yeah, yeah. Uh Finger's mate, Gary Gary's mate on Finger. When he goes there, uh buy it, he goes, buy it, sell it. The game's getting mad. Like he seems so like scared. The game's getting mad. Uh but you're right, the lyrics are fantastic actually, because it basically tells you what the whole show is gonna be. Yeah. Uh in one thing. It's a bit like an oasis lyric, though. It's like we've got them on one egg, but bottom of the barrel, everyone thinks we are, but we are gonna achieve something, we are gonna turn it off.

SPEAKER_10 51:36

Yeah, but they were quite sort of likable. I I think again, like I say, you couldn't make it now, but I think they managed to make them all kind of quite sort of lovable rogues, weren't they? They weren't it it could easily have been done where you thought, well, they're just kind of I don't know, they're kind of out to get one up on the system, but you you were with them, weren't you? I I was when I watched it.

SPEAKER_02 51:56

Yeah, yeah, you were with them. A bit like Royal Family in that sense. Obviously, Jim Rowell's an absolute knobhead, really.

SPEAKER_10 52:02

But yeah, yeah.

The Family Ness Deep Cut

SPEAKER_02 52:03

You're with him everywhere, every step of the way, aren't you?

SPEAKER_10 52:05

Right, my last one. Obviously, uh one of my top five was A Team, you've done it. We we played a Maidly Buzzer. I'm glad actually, because I really wanted to play this one. I'm just wasn't sure I could squeeze it in top five. This is the family ness.

SPEAKER_02 52:54

I've never heard this. You don't remember seeing this as a kid? Never, ever, ever heard of it, or the song or the or anything about it. What were you doing? What do you mean what was it doing?

SPEAKER_10 53:07

This was this was brilliant. I think this was on C C B C well, just BBC then for kids, I think. Um it's brilliant. I love the tune, I love the melody, I love the start, so it so it starts. Obviously you just heard it, but there's a bit of uh a guy on his bagpipes. I always thought it said McDude, but it's MacToot. McToot plays on his bagpipes. But what what I love though is there's no tune at this first bit. So this guy singing it, this Scottish guy, um, who's actually it's sung by Gavin Greenaway, but the music is by Roger and Gavin. Um but uh he's got no melody to carry him, but he he there's just a bagpipe going boom, boom, and he has to carry the melody on his own, and it's the first bit that's always stuck in my mind. I'm like two blows on his bagpipes. Well, Elspeth and Angus, watch those notes go floating across the waves. I love I love that first bit. It's good after that, but that's the bit that sells it to me.

SPEAKER_02 54:02

I I I I think you've written this and added it in. I've never I've never heard of it, honestly.

SPEAKER_10 54:08

So this the the premise was there's Elspeth and Angus were two kids up in Scotland and they lived at Loch Ness. And not only was there a Loch Ness monster, there were loads of them. But they hid from all the local people, and there's a I don't know, it's a police guy or someone trying to find them, but they could see him and they actually had a magic whistle they could blow to get uh a Nessie to come up, but they didn't know which one they were gonna get, I think. But uh again, I'm not gonna go too much into it, into the stories and all that sort of stuff, but there were various different there's sportiness, I think, there's ferociousness. But the one that made me laugh I was looking through him, there were loads more than I remember. But like sportiness, it said if they ever needed something really kind of you know, they needed an athlete to do it. Ferociousness was good at scaring people and he could camouflage himself. And there's one called sadness, and his description is his description is was very depressed and played board games on his own.

SPEAKER_02 55:02

That's absolutely amazing.

SPEAKER_10 55:04

I've never heard of this show. I can't believe you don't know of it. I mean, I I don't think it was particularly obscure.

SPEAKER_02 55:12

Yeah, you've you've done my yeah, you've done my um well, I'll finish off. I've got a kid show that I know you've heard of, and I'm amazed that you didn't go for it actually.

Round The Twist Pop Perfection

SPEAKER_02 55:21

Um and it is from Australia. It's round the twist.

SPEAKER_10 56:16

Yeah, I love it. I thought about it. When I searched the Pugwell theme, this comes up as one of the kind of next things on the list. I thought about it. Yes, I I liked it. I don't know if it was uh ever one of my favourites. I what I don't know, I love Round the Twist, but it it was such a kind of weird uh thing for me. I I don't know how well I even remember it. It was almost like a dream Round the Twist. I I can't I don't know what was going on. I don't know what what was it supernatural, was it was it people like a ghost and shit, weren't it, in a lighthouse.

SPEAKER_02 56:51

Yeah, and there was uh did someone turn into a frog or something, or I don't know. I think just talking about the song first, I think it's a fantastic pop song. It reminds me a little bit of Kate Bush, to be honest. Especially the bit right echo of it, yeah. What I need to do here, I'm gonna play another bit of it here because the intro is different to the outro, but um they're all the same song, if you know what I mean. So this is the outro. The rain rain go away bit and that big thudding drum really reminded me of Cloud Bursting by uh Kate Bush.

SPEAKER_10 57:52

Yeah, I see where you're coming from. I've forgotten that end bit by the way as well, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 57:57

Really?

SPEAKER_10 57:57

You know, I I don't think it's a a good or bad piece of music. I I can see why it's in there. I think it's it's definitely iconic and it does take me back, but I have I have really confused, conflicting memories around the twist. I don't know if I loved it or hated it. It it was a weird show to watch.

SPEAKER_02 58:14

The series was produced and created by uh Patitia Edgar, and it ran for four four series from 1990 to 2001, which meant there were multiple cast changes, but this might shock you. Uh this song was actually sang by Tamsin West, who played Linda Twist in the first series. I think I liked her, yeah. I think I think she was my favourite Linda. You might think well I'm gonna say because there were, I think there were three, or maybe even four Linda Twists, but they kept the theme tune obviously all the way through. Um the the song was written by Andrew Duffield, um, and it obviously borrows lines from like nurture rhymes and yeah, and all this sort of stuff. I think it's brilliant. I think the weirdness of it works for the show, and I think it there's a band called You Pulling Let's Eat Grandma. Like a newish band. And I imagine them doing this and me not batting an eyelid about it being a kid song. I think it's a really, really good piece of pop music. There's like a full version out there as well, if you want to type in uh Tams in West, uh round the twist.

SPEAKER_10 59:13

Have you ever felt like this? Yeah, no, no, good. I I thought about it. It perhaps if we were doing a top 20, it might have been in there, but it it it certainly didn't make a five or ten. Yeah, it's got a five. No, I can't see it. It's it's it's good.

SPEAKER_02 59:30

It's good, but it's

The Ones We Left Out

SPEAKER_02 59:31

not right. It's good, but it's not right. Well, we've done them all now, so do you want to go through like not the res not just the reserves, there's one really notable thing that we've left out. And I'm amazed that you aren't gone for it, and I can only imagine that it's because it's been played too often. I think do you know what I'm on about? Ums and horses? It's only fools and horses. There's obviously two different things for that, but stick a pow in my pocket. It's it's brilliant, but I just think I've heard it that many times that it doesn't have that nostalgic feel anymore.

SPEAKER_10 1:00:10

Yeah, I think I think that's part of the problem. I think you're right, actually. I think I don't really associate it with childhood because I've kind of watched it. It's always on. Yeah. Yeah. Some it is, it is actually I do know what I don't think I even considered it, but it is, it but it perhaps it should be in there, but yeah, I didn't I didn't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:28

John Sullivan wrote wrote wrote the muse, wrote the theme tune, sang the theme tune. It's all that modern, which is everything. Yeah, exactly. I was just gonna say that.

SPEAKER_10 1:00:35

It's that that kind of thing that everybody Oh, I thought it was Rodner, yeah. I know, yeah, we all do, but we all know it's not now.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:42

It's a little bit like uh bread in the sense that it just basically tells you what the show's about in a way. That you know, everything like that's coming off. But can you remember obviously there's two different bits? There's the the first bit which is put your money in your pocket, and then the ending, which is Can you remember that time he went out, and I think it were Matt, Matt Stratford, and every time he spoke, we went yeah and he got so angry, it was unbelievable. Yeah, all night every little thing that he said, like he said, right, so yesterday. Yeah. And I just remember that you you fucking pricks like so angry, couldn't get a like couldn't get a sentence in on the entire night out.

SPEAKER_10 1:01:29

I don't know if I ruled it out because it's too obvious, because I I don't remember consciously ruling it out. I just didn't think of it, but perhaps my subconscious brain said, no, that's that's that's too obvious.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:39

Come on. Come on. Uh another one I had was the theme for uh St. Andreaves. Um I actually started life as the IEV theme for World Cup 86. I don't know if you've heard that. Yeah, I think you've sent me a couple of sub previous things. That's a fantastic one.

SPEAKER_10 1:01:58

I thought about having by the way, but but we I don't think we announced this in the rule set, but we said if we'd mentioned it previously, we weren't gonna have it. So I would have loved to have had um you are the number one.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:14

Yeah, but we've obviously meant we weren't allowed that or Gray Angel because we mentioned it. And I don't think we're allowed Grain Jill anyway. Well maybe we could have, because it were a different theme tune when we were growing up, weren't it? Yeah, it yeah, it was brilliant guitar so I love the idea of theme tunes that an actual guitarist has gone into a studio like what we're doing today, lads, while we're doing Grain Jul theme tune. It's it's Down. Do you know what I mean? Like an imagine There's no way you can play that with that lads.

SPEAKER_10 1:02:44

It's a show about um, you know, it's sort of teen drama, it's set in a school. I'll tell you what I've got for you.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:51

You can smell him on his knees like laying by there. And the other serious contender for me, um well I had another two actually, because obviously I had some reserves and I didn't have to go into them. Red Dwarf. Yeah, I thought about that. Yeah. I just don't think I don't think I'm a big enough fan of Red people love Red Dwarf, and I do like it, but I'm not a huge fan. And I'd have felt a bit of a fraud.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:13

I like it, and it's very iconic. The trouble is I think the theme tune's always annoyed me. I've never really liked the lyrics. I know it's kind of deliberately wacky, gold for shows, nibbling up my toe. I never uh really got it to be honest.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:26

I love Red Wolf, never really loved the theme. And my other two, Penny Crayon, which were really close to getting in.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:32

Penny Crayon, yeah, good.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:33

Brilliant, but just a little bit too short, and uh One Foot in the Grave. Ah, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:42

Ah, do you know what? Uh actually that's one if I'd realised I might have even had. Was that not a proper song then? Was that done for that?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:47

No, Eric Idol. Um obviously Mike. Same mine as well, I'll feel the truth.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:52

It kind of ridiculously sings it.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:54

I know. Well he is a c he sings like uh all his uh look on the bright side of life, though, very similar. So I like uh Give Me Half a Chance and I could still miss be I've Yeah, he's brilliant, one foot in the grave. And uh the only one other other two that came close to me weren't weren't in my reserves were the Jetsons, me, George Jetson. Yeah, yeah. And I think I didn't have that because it was recently an advert and uh Raggidolls.

SPEAKER_10 1:04:17

Uh yeah, that was on my research. I watched it today. In fact, actually, uh Jody came downstairs earlier and said to me, What are you doing? I was sat watching the the Raggi dolls theme was on tele when she came down. Raggiadolls. I said Raggidals. Doing some TV theme research. She just she's worked out, didn't say a word. Yeah, well, rightly so, yeah. Um I love that.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:36

That's all about like, oh, it doesn't matter if you're different.

SPEAKER_10 1:04:39

If you've got it, yeah, it's a good tune, actually, yeah. The one I thought of it seemed a bit I don't know, I thought I was onto something, but then but then something put me off it. So the the Moores theme tune, I don't know if you know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll play a little bit now actually. So that was written, this is a brilliant name. That was written by Barrington Phelong. Um but but what put me off a bit is that I I thought I didn't really used to watch a lot of mortals, but you know, my mum and dad used to watch it a lot, and I used to see the theme and think, oh, it's really good music that. Yeah. And I thought to myself, Oh, I wonder if this is like kind of an obscure hit that I've I remember. It was voted last year the the top TV theme tune by Classic FM and radio time listeners. Yeah. So I thought, uh A bit obvious and I don't I don't want that.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:01

Reminds me a little bit of Bergerack theme tune, which I don't think's great. Reminds me of the police Burgerac theme tune. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm gonna have Mash, but the single's better than the intro. There's no uh lyrics in the intro of Mash, whereas the single version uh it is brilliant, Suicide is painless, obviously.

SPEAKER_10 1:06:19

Do you know the thing that I I thought about having, and I actually think we should play it because it's a tie-in to what we're supposed to be about, but I uh I did think about having this.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:01

Yeah, classic, obviously. I mean, again, probably heard it too many times.

SPEAKER_10 1:07:05

Yeah, and and like we said right back in episode one, I think the reason why I like that piece of music is you know, I don't think I was ever a massive fan of this morning, but love Richard Maidley, I love the fact that if I was watching this morning, either meant I was on a school holiday or off six, so yeah, just just again uh it's quite good as well, it's quite sort of cheeky, innit?

SPEAKER_02 1:07:25

It's quite a cheeky piece of music. I'll tell you what, who's got two things in it? I mean, I I hate to keep touching on um uh uh paedophiles, but obviously we mentioned General Fix earlier. Um but two great theme tunes came from Rolf Harris. Uh Animal Hospital. Oh yeah, yeah. When he got his saxophone out, and Rolf's cartoon club. It's Rolf's cartoon club. You can join for that. Yeah. And he'd be fake you to come out, but obviously we can't add that anymore because he is a convicted sex offender.

SPEAKER_10 1:07:58

So Yeah, we don't we don't condone his actions, we don't agree with him. Um In fact, you know what? Not only do we not condone him, we uh we actually what's the opposite to condoning? We we wholeheartedly disagree, don't we?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:12

Remember, it's gonna be a fan day. It's gonna be a real fan day. Not one of a classic Rolf. Yeah, we're Rolf, yeah, yeah, yeah. Condemn, we condemn. We condemn Rolf Harris.

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